Wow that demon set up is awesome, totally going to try it out. Probably going to be easier than trying to combo into it because of my play style. I usually use crouching light kick and if I hit use misogi to get the hard knockdown. People rarely jump after that, usually wake up throw tech lol. Thank you so much for making these videos. You guys are the freaking best :)
SonicSol It‘s an awesome meaty, it‘s also good if they reversal (at least akuma and kage, their dp will just whiff to the other side) I don‘t know about the rest of the cast though
@@andrew6179 if you're talking about a dp to anti air it in the second tech by Wolfgang, the opponent has to make the correct input for a Cross cut dp. And that's hard considering kage is directly in the center, above of their collision box. Inputs are likely to mess up at that point. I explained this before.
@@andrew6179 if you're talking about the demon meaty in vt2. All invuln reversals are invincible for the first 5f and start up from frames 3-5. However kage's demon starts up on frame 2 in that setup (-1 oki). You will either go through their dp or you'll get hit on later frames (akuma's and Ken's dp has multiple hitboxes so the demon has to be done a frame later [-2 oki])
I'm a little late but. I will say I'm thankful for you guys and proud at the same time. These videos of Kage have really helped. The Hado works different with him and I Love It. I might drop Akuma for him. 👍💯🎮. Keep up the good work.
How are you gonna be able to react to which rise they do on the setup at 6:15? Like you gotta have inhumane reactions to do that. You basically put yourself at risk of burning 2 bars AND being extremely punishable if you guess wrong on a situation that is meant to be really good for you risk/reward wise. Furthermore it doesnt even lead to a combo. Setup is bunk
SonicSol yea and then f hp isnt even safe, if they just block you just wasted a great opportunity to get pressure. I mean this is a lot of unsafe options on a great knockdown where you can get something guaranteed. The f hp thing is just as bad imo because even with the teleport to cancel out of the hp you are still unsafe. AND you just used all your v trigger and a bar. This setup just seems too yolo and gimmicky for me personally. It is flashy though.
@@jesperlarsen9188 after teleport, the opponent needs super or a fast moving ex special move. It's pretty safe. Also it's still one of two options the opponent has to worry about. If you don't wanna use it cool.
SonicSol yea man. Cool video. Great idea to snap the best of the twitter shared tech and make it into a video. I love that you credit the people who shared it in the first place. RUclips comments is a shitty place to discuss whether something is solid or too gimmicky. Keep up the great vids man.
The second tech you used ex fireball trigger cancel when explaining but upgraded V skill during actual set play. V trigger canceling an ex fireball to do the setup is not worth it imo, youre already giving up guaranteed damage as well as the actual v trigger freeze for it, however doing it after v skill looks very good indeed.
Retro_WrathX13 lol pretty sure u can lk than medium stomp into raging demon after hard knockdown, that’s what I’ve been doing didn realize heavy stomp did the same 🤣
VT1 is for spending a needless amount of bar for a CHANCE to land a hit and VT2 is for whiffpunishes, amazing oki, demon and easy extra damage/stun. 99% of the people here are way better off with VT2. A very small minority MIGHT benefit from VT1 over VT2, but I am not convinced yet. Everything people have shown me for VT1 is always very resource heavy and takes a lot more skill to use than anything VT2 brings to the table. If you're anything below advanced, pick VT2 (for results).
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............ I'm never going to rank up. I can't have fun knowing the reason why I bought this game Sakura having limited moveset and held back by overpowering Tier match up. I give up. This game is full of meta bs. How come every character isn't this advance. This shit Wack. Meanwhile I'm stuck guessing in block for a grab.. low blow. Or frame trap. I came to have fun. Just have to accept loosing or stop playing.
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0:15 kage knows what up bruh! That shits sick! I love kage's kata animations..
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SonicSol Plase make a video about Nash s4 changes and vt2 setup
Wow that demon set up is awesome, totally going to try it out. Probably going to be easier than trying to combo into it because of my play style. I usually use crouching light kick and if I hit use misogi to get the hard knockdown. People rarely jump after that, usually wake up throw tech lol. Thank you so much for making these videos. You guys are the freaking best :)
Love the hard work you guys have been putting in. Can’t wait to apply this new tech. This character has unlimited potential.
I seen deadace do this pretty early on cool setup man
Yeah i watched him do the mix up.
Deadace did a throw bait using instant air tatsu. That's also good. I'm doing it as a meaty.
SonicSol It‘s an awesome meaty, it‘s also good if they reversal (at least akuma and kage, their dp will just whiff to the other side) I don‘t know about the rest of the cast though
@@andrew6179 if you're talking about a dp to anti air it in the second tech by Wolfgang, the opponent has to make the correct input for a Cross cut dp. And that's hard considering kage is directly in the center, above of their collision box. Inputs are likely to mess up at that point. I explained this before.
@@andrew6179 if you're talking about the demon meaty in vt2. All invuln reversals are invincible for the first 5f and start up from frames 3-5. However kage's demon starts up on frame 2 in that setup (-1 oki). You will either go through their dp or you'll get hit on later frames (akuma's and Ken's dp has multiple hitboxes so the demon has to be done a frame later [-2 oki])
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Gonna practice today. Thanks
10:18 VT2 Time 12:06 nice Link
Wow vtrigger 1 is deep I like it
I'm a little late but. I will say I'm thankful for you guys and proud at the same time. These videos of Kage have really helped. The Hado works different with him and I Love It. I might drop Akuma for him. 👍💯🎮. Keep up the good work.
Superb work. Learned a lot here. Thank you, Sonic.
Your on another level
Good job vesper as usual.
Yo Great jog man, keep up the good work
How are you gonna be able to react to which rise they do on the setup at 6:15? Like you gotta have inhumane reactions to do that. You basically put yourself at risk of burning 2 bars AND being extremely punishable if you guess wrong on a situation that is meant to be really good for you risk/reward wise. Furthermore it doesnt even lead to a combo. Setup is bunk
F.HP setplay covers ALL rises
You have the option of going for instant air tatsu but also have a reliable meaty option that you can make safe.
The meaty instant air tatsu also leads into a combo too since it's plus 3
SonicSol yea and then f hp isnt even safe, if they just block you just wasted a great opportunity to get pressure. I mean this is a lot of unsafe options on a great knockdown where you can get something guaranteed.
The f hp thing is just as bad imo because even with the teleport to cancel out of the hp you are still unsafe. AND you just used all your v trigger and a bar.
This setup just seems too yolo and gimmicky for me personally. It is flashy though.
@@jesperlarsen9188 after teleport, the opponent needs super or a fast moving ex special move. It's pretty safe. Also it's still one of two options the opponent has to worry about. If you don't wanna use it cool.
SonicSol yea man. Cool video. Great idea to snap the best of the twitter shared tech and make it into a video. I love that you credit the people who shared it in the first place. RUclips comments is a shitty place to discuss whether something is solid or too gimmicky.
Keep up the great vids man.
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Hitting an ex Insta air tatsu crossup on hardknock down is so swell
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Nice stuff!
damn some real nasty shit here
Nice DMC 2 ost tunes 👍
The second tech you used ex fireball trigger cancel when explaining but upgraded V skill during actual set play. V trigger canceling an ex fireball to do the setup is not worth it imo, youre already giving up guaranteed damage as well as the actual v trigger freeze for it, however doing it after v skill looks very good indeed.
Cool stuff
On the same side cross up. I can't get my teleport to come out immediately after jumping? Is anyone else having this issue?
Hey sonic what's your thoughts on Nash this season?
I main bison and use urien so I would easy grab him there after that lp. Sonic sol plz do more research. Don't know the rest cast of grab range
Time to lab
vt2 setups??
Ima try this but that insta air gonna be annoying asf
Delaying demon is advanced tech? I’ve been doing it by accident
Retro_WrathX13 lol pretty sure u can lk than medium stomp into raging demon after hard knockdown, that’s what I’ve been doing didn realize heavy stomp did the same 🤣
Vt 1 is godlike
So dirty! I like it! RIKUDO OSATSU!!! 😈
Is there a Gerald on this channel?
Song ?
So basically vt1 is for nasty mixups and vt2 is for oki and demon, nice
VT1 is for spending a needless amount of bar for a CHANCE to land a hit and VT2 is for whiffpunishes, amazing oki, demon and easy extra damage/stun. 99% of the people here are way better off with VT2. A very small minority MIGHT benefit from VT1 over VT2, but I am not convinced yet. Everything people have shown me for VT1 is always very resource heavy and takes a lot more skill to use than anything VT2 brings to the table.
If you're anything below advanced, pick VT2 (for results).
Skeptic Gamer all this fuckery for a little extra damage meanwhile vt2 gives you that much damage
Is street fighter 5 done bro
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Disgusting I love it
Evil ryu is my main, but this shit is too Evil
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ok i understand now , i quit this awfull game
Benikage > Kage
Kage is a problem...
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MVCI coming 2019 added X-Men return.
Really
@@just_2swift yes Shueisha is one of Jump series not by Toei
Lame
............ I'm never going to rank up. I can't have fun knowing the reason why I bought this game Sakura having limited moveset and held back by overpowering Tier match up. I give up. This game is full of meta bs. How come every character isn't this advance. This shit Wack. Meanwhile I'm stuck guessing in block for a grab.. low blow. Or frame trap. I came to have fun. Just have to accept loosing or stop playing.