5 Spooky Mysteries of Star Trek

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • The Star Trek galaxy is home to many unknowns, mysteries and some of them are from scary episodes such as the creatures from Schisms or the Borg themselves. Let's take a look at 5 such unresolved plots that are not picked up again in the canon of the shows.
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  • @RandomTrinidadian
    @RandomTrinidadian 11 месяцев назад +132

    What about that "Repair Station" the NX-01 encontered?
    The one that can repair itself even after being destoryed?

    • @Airano
      @Airano 11 месяцев назад +28

      Was hoping for that to be number one. That was an awesome episode.

    • @Plasmacore_V
      @Plasmacore_V 11 месяцев назад +4

      it was covered in the novels.

    • @user-pf3gd1zd2i
      @user-pf3gd1zd2i 11 месяцев назад +4

      What did the novels say?

    • @gmradio2436
      @gmradio2436 11 месяцев назад +7

      Alien tech, Romulans like to blow them up. Rick has a video on it.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Plasmacore_V The novels aren't canon, they're beta content. Nothing in them is canon until it shows up in the TV shows or movies. So that's just a _possible_ explanation.

  • @deinekes9
    @deinekes9 11 месяцев назад +130

    The best Borg origin story I've seen is from Ressurected Starship where the Borg is the eventual outcome of any species that values unity and technological progress above all things, even over personal rights. They consider themselves less an organization than an inevitable philosophical and evolutionary outcome of all life and thus cannot be truly destroyed, just temporarily set back even when their current iteration is wiped out somehow as they will remanifest somewhere eventually.
    I'd love to see a short horror story of a starfleet ship encountering a civilization on the cusp of embracing this borg-like nature only for the actual Borg to show up and assimilate these aliens without resistance.

    • @JayStrang1
      @JayStrang1 11 месяцев назад +34

      Similar to the modern explanation for Doctor Who's Cybermen. Rather than a single entity with a singular origin, they are simply a natural failure state of human (or similar) populations that reach a certain level of technological advancement, often spurred on by worsening environmental conditions and social decay. Eventually people start cybernetically augmenting themselves to survive, and it progresses along similar lines from there.

    • @Paul-FrancisB
      @Paul-FrancisB 11 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@JayStrang1I thought exactly the same so many parallels between the Borg and cybermen or even the daleks

    • @JenABlue-ed1bw
      @JenABlue-ed1bw 11 месяцев назад +14

      Yes, this has always been my preferred concept of the Borg--that they have had many different origins, and whenever two versions of them meet they merge. They are basically the endgame of capitalism--everyone is a replaceable cog with no life beyond laboring, for which they receive no reward, all in the name of endless infinite expansion, endless consumption of more resources, the devastation of entire worlds by flying black industrial factory-office building hybrids full of cubicles.

    • @NeilEvans-xq8ik
      @NeilEvans-xq8ik 11 месяцев назад +9

      @JenABlue-ed1bw
      I prefer your interpretation to that of those who cast the struggle between the Federation and the Borg as being analogous to that between so-called freedom loving capitalists and collectivist communists. My own personal experience of capitalism has been very far from liberating, and much more de-individualising than such a perspective can account for. I was Locutus of McDonald's for a while, but now I am free, and very much in favour of libertarian socialism and it's worker cooperative model of business. Capitalism minus the parasites equals socialism. Simple.

    • @JenABlue-ed1bw
      @JenABlue-ed1bw 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@NeilEvans-xq8ik Hi! Yeah, I'm somewhere in the left-libertarian, anarcho-socialist spectrum myself, so probably pretty close to you ideologically! And yeah, that take on the Federation and Borg has never made sense to me. The episode that INTRODUCED [the mysterious attacks on the Romulan border that would eventually turn out to be] the Borg made a huge deal out of how very NOT capitalist the Federation is--it's a post-scarcity socialist state! How do people claim THAT represents capitalism in this interpretation?

  • @vic5015
    @vic5015 11 месяцев назад +49

    Schisms is one of the creepiest Trek episodes I've *ever* watched. And the holodeck scene where they're re-creating the surgical table from memory is 100% pure high-octane nightmare fuel.
    That said, the infamous scene with the Bluegill queen, for lack of a better term, is probably the best Trek body horror we've ever gotten. Better even than the reveal of Locutus and the "de-evolution" episide. I have a bone to pick with that episode, however.

    • @allistair61
      @allistair61 11 месяцев назад +4

      Completely agree with you about Schisms, that scene in the holodeck gives me chills, it was so beautifully done

    • @sethduncan4063
      @sethduncan4063 10 месяцев назад +2

      Schisms…that episode gave me nightmares, being 5 years old the first time I watched it properly means it’s no surprise

    • @somebodykares1
      @somebodykares1 10 месяцев назад +4

      I don't know why but I keep remembering some statement that they said the Bluegills were like what they originally wanted to make the Borg before switching directions and making the Borg cybernetic. The Bluegills were a hive race and the Borg were a hive race... Plus it's believed the Bluegills sent their message to the Delta Quadrant which is home of the Borg.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@somebodykares1I've heard that too.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 3 месяца назад

      @@somebodykares1 yep the Borg were what we got when it came time to follow up on "Conspiracy" but the Bluegills had not been very well received. Also the they retroactively linked the destroyed border outposts mentioned in "The Neutral Zone" implying that the Borg had already been in the Beta Quadrant for some time hence why they showed up on the Federation's doorstep so soon after "Q Who?" (long before the transwarp conduits were ever thought of.)

  • @CelticCubby
    @CelticCubby 11 месяцев назад +47

    I really liked Silent Enemy on Enterprise, it was one of my favorite episodes of the first season.
    Season two of Picard left a huge question about that conduit. I have thought maybe the Kelvans are invading from Andromeda or maybe a nod to the Iconians.

  • @ethankane7854
    @ethankane7854 11 месяцев назад +76

    This one is partially explained, but I think it's still worrying nonetheless, but I think that the Sphere Builders from Enterprise would make a good honorable mention on this list. Although their motivations are revealed we don't know enough about them to really understand them. Also, as far as I'm aware, there is nothing stopping them from invading the galaxy again. Since they exist in another universe, they are essentially untouchable by Starfleet until they come over to our universe. Their extra-universal origins seems pretty mysterious and unsettling to me.

    • @songyani3992
      @songyani3992 11 месяцев назад +10

      That's the problem. They can't exist in our space without altering it first and since humans figured out how to reverse the effects in 22nd century they can't really just drop in unannounced and strike

    • @andrewblanchard2398
      @andrewblanchard2398 11 месяцев назад +3

      the
      INTERDIMENSIONAL ALIENS
      were originally going to be
      FUTURE CHANGELINGS
      and the NX 01 ENTERPRISE
      was going to see a
      JEM HADAR ship
      entering a time wormhole
      at the end of the XINDI story arc

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад

      @@songyani3992 They have the ability to communicate with beings in our universe, since they used that to trick the Xindi into attacking Earth. And they also can clearly build the spheres here, or somehow transport them from their universe. So they could try again, perhaps setting up another sphere expanse outside of Federation/Klingon/Romulan borders where no species knows about their prior attempt.
      Hell, they could _already_ be doing that somewhere in the delta quadrant. Gamma quadrant's unlikely, the Founders would notice and put a stop to them and alpha & beta quadrants know about them already.

    • @Sirarkshell
      @Sirarkshell 10 месяцев назад

      I was a fan of Star Trek Enterprise, but please let us not revisit the temporal cold war story line again. 🙏

    • @mastersith3523
      @mastersith3523 5 месяцев назад

      @@SirarkshellDiscovery and Strange New Worlds have both already mentioned it again. Idk I thought it was kinda neat as a fan of Enterprise myself. Definitely wasn’t the main appeal of that show though. The Xindi arc itself though was fantastic.

  • @bensollenberger9948
    @bensollenberger9948 11 месяцев назад +25

    I don't think they ever established who the aliens were from the TNG episode "Night Terrors". It's implied that this species wouldn't be a threat under normal conditions but we don't know for sure.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 11 месяцев назад +10

      The Sickbay scene is still the creepiest single Trek scene.

    • @Spooglecraft
      @Spooglecraft 11 месяцев назад +9

      iirc the aliens weren't adversarial at all. weren't both their ship and the enterprise caught in some phenomenon and the aliens tried to communicate telepathically to save everyone, which accidently messed with everybody's sleep, making them paranoid and stuff?
      the episode was still pretty damn creepy, though, and i'd argue the fact that aliens were trying to help adds to that. imagine you're trapped with someone and can only get out by helping each other, but the only way they can talk to you drives you insane. it's a tragedy of cruel irony.

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Spooglecraftit was not adversarial, just spooky.

    • @andrewblanchard2398
      @andrewblanchard2398 11 месяцев назад +4

      NIGHT TERRORS
      was going to have a conclusion
      on a VOYAGER episode
      KES
      was the telepath talking to
      DEANNA TROI
      but that story was dropped

    • @skyborne80
      @skyborne80 21 день назад

      ​@@andrewblanchard2398 That would have actually been pretty cool!

  • @sillypuppy5940
    @sillypuppy5940 11 месяцев назад +11

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Redjac from "Wolf in the Fold." I wonder where it came from, and are there any more of them...?

    • @joerussell9574
      @joerussell9574 7 дней назад

      I think it was born on Earth in primodial times and Kirk and Spock surmised it left Earth when Humanity discovered warp tech.

  • @kevinramsey417
    @kevinramsey417 11 месяцев назад +10

    Bonnie-kin, Bonnie-kin....I see you. I prefer the origins of the Borg to be left a mystery. Anything we get in canon is going to horrifically disappoint. Let their backstory be the last part of their mystique that remains untouched.

  • @Interitus1
    @Interitus1 11 месяцев назад +4

    I hate the idea of V'ger being related to the borg. I know there is an episode of Voyager where.. Seven? says that early borg history is fragmented and incomplete. Potentially the borg comes in waves, collapses and then rises up again. Their origin being far far far longer than ever thought.
    Another semi-spooky one is the Dyson sphere, since immense effort was put into its creation, but it was either never used or whoever builts it died out leaving an immense abandoned structure essentially full of countless dead bodies

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 3 месяца назад

      Agreed. It makes the universe seem small

    • @Woopaloops
      @Woopaloops 29 дней назад

      V’ger being related to the Borg is literally impossible in every way.
      1. Spock witnesses images of entire galaxies in V’ger’s memories and says, “Its knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve.” This proves that V’ger explored the entire universe prior to returning to Earth. The Borg could barely make it out of the Delta Quadrant.
      2. V’ger is infinitely more advanced than the Borg. V’ger is completely impervious to conventional weapons and uses plasma weapons that can digitize matter on contact. The Borg are still using primitive phasers and are constantly being blown up by Starfleet. V’ger has the ability to recreate lifeforms in every detail down to the molecular level. The Borg simply consume life. V’ger is thousands of times the size of a starship and produces an energy cloud that is 82 AUs in diameter. A Borg cube would look like an ant next to V’ger.
      3. The Machine Race that enhanced Voyager 6 were entirely mechanical, with no organic components. They found Voyager 6 to be a kindred spirit and helped it along in its mission. The Borg do not consider mechanical lifeforms as like themselves. Locutus tells Data he’ll be “obsolete” when the Borg assimilate the Federation.
      You’re right that it makes Star Trek seem smaller, but it’s not only that. It’s like people don’t pay attention to literally anything in the movie / show when they spout this stupid theory.

  • @Jackelmandingo
    @Jackelmandingo 11 месяцев назад +2

    The super nova of the Romulan star may have been a Dominion revenge weapon.

  • @jhaarbur
    @jhaarbur 11 месяцев назад +1

    Who built the space ocean the Moneans lived in ST: VOY? And why did they beam up their entire ocean into space to begin with?
    What are the true origins of the Remans?
    What is a self sealing stembolt exactly?
    How do the Heisenberg Compensators work in general?
    How did the Vulcanoid Mintakans get places on their homeworld?
    How can the Drayans in VOY be born in reverse ageing if they are full grown and physically elderly when they start life?
    Why did Janeway and Paris looked like they de-evolved at the end of "Threshold" instead of vice vera? (*Sorry, had to mention that lol)

  • @nataschajordan6053
    @nataschajordan6053 11 месяцев назад +1

    i always thought it was actually the "jurati" borg that came through that green transwarp gate ?!, that tried to say hello on the most terrifying way ^^ did i miss something?

    • @nataschajordan6053
      @nataschajordan6053 11 месяцев назад

      rewatched, he meant the yellow strudelz that in the last episode then gets watched by borgati

  • @williamwatson8109
    @williamwatson8109 2 месяца назад

    The last one was Star Trek's attempt at the Gou'ld from Stargate before Stargate was even around!

  • @bekenotsalony2905
    @bekenotsalony2905 11 месяцев назад

    so they were in the Amargosa Diaspora when they came across the solanogen-based lifeforms (the crustrations) ... so when Tolian Soran blew up the Amagosa star... did he kill them? Or do you think a supernova wouldn't go into their subspace domaine?

  • @darienevans6229
    @darienevans6229 11 месяцев назад +1

    What about Star Trek enterprise automative ship repair yard that needed brains to increase its processing power.

  • @Edd25164605
    @Edd25164605 11 месяцев назад

    Star Trek online didva pretty good Job explaining the clickers (The Solanae) and the Neural parasites.

  • @hi-q2261
    @hi-q2261 11 месяцев назад +2

    How do you know that VEGER didn't travel back in time ?

  • @mrbojangles8133
    @mrbojangles8133 11 месяцев назад

    what is worse
    Goa'Uld or blue gills?

  • @PineApple-vq9xv
    @PineApple-vq9xv 11 месяцев назад

    In Star Trek Picard a portal started to open up with machines coming out but the portal was closed always wondered what they actually were

  • @thomyoutube3478
    @thomyoutube3478 10 месяцев назад

    The "father thing" from VOY Coda. No explaination. No knowledge if everyone faces it upon their big exit or if it is a local phenomenon.

  • @anarchyantz1564
    @anarchyantz1564 11 месяцев назад

    I want to know what happened with the Whale Scientist Dr. Gillian Taylor as they must have screwed up the time line with her missing.

  • @JubeiKibagamiFez
    @JubeiKibagamiFez 9 месяцев назад

    I don't know... I'm sure there are plenty of unresolved episodes in the entirety of the Star Trek Universe.

  • @sproge2142
    @sproge2142 11 месяцев назад +1

    No mention of the whale bros from "The Voyage Home"? Clearly a whale of a mistake!! 😂

  • @ludicrousfunone5705
    @ludicrousfunone5705 11 месяцев назад

    04:20. Rick, you're British it's Pronounced boy!!!!! We're not American lol. In Britain it's pronounced boy even though it's spelt differently

  • @crippletime
    @crippletime 11 месяцев назад +1

    Algorithm comment

  • @MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
    @MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 11 месяцев назад

    😂👉🇮🇱Trek

  • @Dalek97
    @Dalek97 11 месяцев назад +33

    I've always thought the Transwarp Conduit was the Higher Synthetics from S1, probing the galaxy where the latest distress call suddenly went silent.
    I'd like to see more hints of them. Not enough purely mechanical lifeforms in Trek IMO.

    • @Stingmon21
      @Stingmon21 11 месяцев назад +7

      Yeah, I figured they were going to tie in with the Control story from Discovery S2. Maybe even some type of Timey-Wimey Avengers style crossover that, unfortunately, never made past the initial teasing.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 11 месяцев назад +3

      Disagree. I personally believe that something like that could be done only by the Ionians. After all Picard take place only a decade before of the events of Star Trek Online (though I personally do believe that game itself is a holodeck history novel comprising events from entire century). For reminder Iconians are from Andromeda Galaxy.
      As for robot squids from Picard S1. We actually do know some things about Machine Race/Federation. At least enough to think that they are The Federation from the future (what is not as weird as you may think, look Badgy), allied with T'Kon AI and Guardians of Forever. Who watch from shadow (subspace) they ancestors and judge them. V'ger, Control, Zora and possibly dozens others suspects like Edo God (take a note that probe what attack Discovery shuttle also has tentacles and Sphere do resemble Borg).
      Anyway, it is worth to point out a detail many people miss about this event. First of it was a beacon, not the portal. Entity should be still capable to enter even if it was destroyed, but it pull out when Starfleet entered. And now the interesting detail. We do know that planet was jammed and Picard enter it on Borg Cube, so he has no idea where it is. Yet Riker claim that they answer to subspace signal they though it was from Picard, even if we do know that planet was jammed before destruction of the beacon. But timing is important! Starfleet entered exactly when beacon was activated, but it would take them time to arrive. In short they were called by beacon!
      And here is also interesting subtheory. So Starfleet detection ability is comically accurate, yet they did not detect any anomaly. What if robot squids were actually a Federation mining drones? Take a note that scene take place century earlier (and BTW it explain design of Section 31 and also worth to mention that Synths do use same S31 ship design!):
      ruclips.net/video/rbiAzrav9Ow/видео.html

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад +1

      That'd also explain why they created the exit aperture where they did. They were _deliberately_ trying to wipe out the Federation as a threat to synthetic lifeforms.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ManabiLT Except they didn't. T'Kon Empire was destroyed by supernova (wink wink), because they attempted to size control of the subspace and by extend time. What lead to conflict with they own AI, who destroy them as threat to timeline. Which they were obligated to preserve in programming. One of points in the movie is that message was for machines, not humans. But humans read it thanks to Vulcan telepaty (bio-neuro-link?). So it was not warning, but actually explorations for the machines of nature of this conflict. So that synthetic life would replace organic over time and living being fear that. Whole point of golem was in fact that. Picard was the future of the Federation... in a sense. Beacon was only mean to call for help and ironically Starfleet was one of those who answer the call (planet was jammed and Picard didn't know where he is going).
      For reminder Control was an anomaly. It was a securyty protocol, what coincidentally fused with "alien" code from future and due to limited perspective read humanity as a threat. But for reminder Zora is actually the same entity as the Control, born from exact same code. Just it get different perspective what lead it to different conclusion. So it assimilated itself as part of the crew.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro 11 месяцев назад

      @@Stingmon21 Was it? BTW, that scene may be quite insightful:
      ruclips.net/video/wUkAqZMq49w/видео.html

  • @robeson1070
    @robeson1070 11 месяцев назад +14

    Voyager episode "Coda" -- the notion that this alien species visits people, routinely, as they die. "I've done this many times".

  • @Hagunemnon
    @Hagunemnon 11 месяцев назад +37

    Honestly, the conduit was the best thing *about* season 2 of Picard. Its a mystery. Its *enormous,* for one, and something that damned *big* likely needs an incredible power source behind it, which means there's somebody out there with some truly *fearsome* technology. Tech even the Borg couldn't quite understand. My theory? Something was trying to brute force its way past the outer galactic barrier, trying to force its way into the Milky Way. The energy beam? I don't think that was even intended as an attack, it was just a byproduct of doing what amounts to punching thru subspace as hard as you possibly can.
    The Ori are friggin' coming, man.

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos 11 месяцев назад +3

      Eh, I'd think something more like the Magog or similar from other Roddenberry universes there...

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 11 месяцев назад +6

      " You *will* embrace Origin."

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад +8

      That whole scene with the ships warping in to form the grid, their shields harmonizing and then holding against the aperture's energy ejections is freaking _incredible_ to watch. I go back and rewatch that scene pretty regularly, it's so fun.
      I also like how it showed us just how powerful ships' shields are. That was an insane amount of energy they held against, but they made it look easy. Sure, Jurati was coordinating, but she was using the shield technology already on the ships. Was also fun seeing the shields visibly.

    • @jaimebabb9968
      @jaimebabb9968 11 месяцев назад +4

      I think it's the Kelvans

    • @kingcheerio8558
      @kingcheerio8558 11 месяцев назад +2

      I remember reading somewhere that the conduit was supposed to represent a tear in reality resulting from Q dying in normal space and not in the continuum, but then season 3 went in a completely different direction away from all that and now Q didn't actually die. I dunno, season 2 of Picard was almost harder to watch than season 4 of Discovery.

  • @jaysgamingcorner8539
    @jaysgamingcorner8539 11 месяцев назад +13

    Just my opinion: Schisms is one of the best TNG episodes in the entire series. Seeing the whole crew, even Data, affected by the clicking aliens is a riveting idea.

  • @RazyrDiarmait
    @RazyrDiarmait 11 месяцев назад +18

    The Elachi living in subspace is the most likely reason for Starfleet not having much data on them.

  • @kneelb4zod360
    @kneelb4zod360 11 месяцев назад +25

    I know it’s not canon but I always liked the Borg origin from the novel ‘Star Trek: Destiny’

    • @housecoatgaming
      @housecoatgaming 11 месяцев назад +12

      I found it _insulting._
      'Near-godlike race forces humans from the NX-02 into a hive mind and goes back in time'.
      The _TOS MANGA_ did a better job.

    • @andrewshearsby8125
      @andrewshearsby8125 11 месяцев назад

      Found Destiny an okay run.

    • @oisinm332
      @oisinm332 11 месяцев назад +2

      Same here, have the whole set, is a great adventure.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@housecoatgaming Seriously, why's everything gotta be humans?
      I am sure a lot of the other species in Star Trek would find _that_ insulting, lol.

  • @stueymon
    @stueymon 11 месяцев назад +9

    This video really made me aware of how much Picard leaned heavily on "There's a much worse threat coming but we have to stop it!" "What is it?" "No idea! No time to find out it's just something nebulous and easy to write!"

  • @CRYOKnox
    @CRYOKnox 11 месяцев назад +13

    I think a cyberpunk origin for the Borg would be most likely going from a society like ours to something like 1984, to a full-blown annihilation war with few survivors creating first AI then merging with it.mavbe mix a bit Terminator and Matrix into it...

  • @Pendra37
    @Pendra37 11 месяцев назад +8

    You forgot about the Galactic barrier. Who made it abd why is it there? Can it be that it is protecting, shieldig the galaxy from something big.

    • @MrEtherguy
      @MrEtherguy 11 месяцев назад

      There's probably several theories, the one I've head is that the Q Continuum created it to protect our galaxy from what lies past it. It's not canon of course, but the Continuum does appear to have some sort of fascination with our galaxy and maybe cares about the life which resides in it.

    • @topogigio7031
      @topogigio7031 11 месяцев назад

      I feel like nobody ever remembers the fact that the ENTIRE galaxy has been directly molded by The Founders. There IS a reason why all aliens look similar, it's not a meme. A race of aliens MADE Humans and guided us - they could definitely have the tech for a barrier

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 10 месяцев назад +1

      "The Q Continuum" novel trilogy gives a possible origin for it (obviously not canon, though). An entity named 0 (that's a zero, not an 'o') was introduced to this universe by a younger Q. When he brings in some cronies and starts causing trouble, the Q intervene, and after a fairly tough fight (yes, tough for the Q), they manage to subdue 0 and one of his cronies, while the other two run off (both would later be encountered by Kirk during the events of TOS). The galactic barriers were put up to contain the two who didn't run off, trapping The One in the galactic core (to be later encountered by Kirk in ST5) and 0 outside the galaxy, where he would be barred from the nearest shore by the barrier and millions of years' travel away from any other because he can't travel faster than light on his own.

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 3 месяца назад

      @@topogigio7031 that wasn't The Founders, those aliens were even older than the Changelings.

  • @ijmad
    @ijmad 11 месяцев назад +14

    How could you forget Beverley Crusher's candle ghost

    • @backupplan6058
      @backupplan6058 11 месяцев назад +9

      We never talk about it, ever!

    • @amazedsatsuma
      @amazedsatsuma 11 месяцев назад +6

      Funny enough in Star Trek Online that is the reward for this year Halloween campaign event going right now 😆

    • @andrewblanchard2398
      @andrewblanchard2398 11 месяцев назад +1

      👽 🕯 👻

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 3 месяца назад

      @@backupplan6058 was that episode also cut from syndication? I thought I had seen every TNG episode and only found out about that one over a decade later on Netflix.

  • @mrbuck5059
    @mrbuck5059 11 месяцев назад +5

    I think the scariest thing we have ran into is the mechanical extra dimensional beings trying to get into this universe in the end of season 1 Picard. Im talking about those snake things that the androids were trying to connect with. It spooked all them Tal Shiar nuns so bad they killed themselves. Just like the movies Event Horizon and Screamers put together.

  • @VulpisFoxfire
    @VulpisFoxfire 11 месяцев назад +8

    Weird thought on the conduit...it isn't an attack (as such), it's just another alien race building interstellar highways, and either not recognizing (or not caring) that there's already an established civilization at the other end.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe it's the Vorgons putting in a transwarp bypass through the alpha quadrant.

  • @Chris-dz3rs
    @Chris-dz3rs 11 месяцев назад +9

    I've allways believed that while the Borg are extremely dangerous ,there's one reason they haven't taken over everything.
    Something is holding them back.
    No not 8472 .
    Something that we haven't seen yet .
    There's ALWAYS something more dangerous......
    (Cue ominous music)

    • @daveh7720
      @daveh7720 11 месяцев назад +3

      There's always a bigger fish.

    • @Chris-dz3rs
      @Chris-dz3rs 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@daveh7720 Cue ominous music

    • @deddy2339
      @deddy2339 11 месяцев назад +1

      The transcendental cosmic koala

    • @topogigio7031
      @topogigio7031 11 месяцев назад

      Ah, you're a Zoomer. You'd rather have bad writing ignore an ending than have something truly satisfying

    • @Chris-dz3rs
      @Chris-dz3rs 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@topogigio7031 actually, I'm a gen X. I try to accept the fact that not everything mysterious will be solved in my lifetime . I have other things to REALLY worry about. I simply wonder about this one when my friends and I get talking .

  • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
    @SchneeflockeMonsoon 11 месяцев назад +6

    Missed opportunity not ending with the soft
    *beep beep beep*
    From conspiracy.

  • @Adam-ul2px
    @Adam-ul2px 11 месяцев назад +8

    I had nightmares for months after "Schism" aired. My brain would start hearing that clicking just as i was falling asleep

  • @deddy2339
    @deddy2339 11 месяцев назад +53

    I liked the non-canon explanation for the Bluegills being a rogue parasitic offshoot of the Trill.

    • @aludarce8921
      @aludarce8921 11 месяцев назад +8

      I'm personally a fan of the version that the podcast, Starship excelsior suggests. Which they are a extra galactic species looking to control all sentient species

    • @shanenway2647
      @shanenway2647 11 месяцев назад +9

      A mirror universe trill in the prime time-line?

    • @andrewblanchard2398
      @andrewblanchard2398 11 месяцев назад +4

      there's only 3 species of
      TRILL
      SYMBIONT
      HUMANOID SPOTS
      HUMANOID FOREHEAD
      the forehead version was
      supposed to show up on
      DS9 throughout the first
      3 seasons but the producers
      didn't want fans to see they
      changed the makeup

    • @andrewblanchard2398
      @andrewblanchard2398 11 месяцев назад

      BUG ALIENS
      were originally going to
      be the BORG
      DARK SKIES series on NBC
      used the concept of brain bugs
      controlling people

    • @deddy2339
      @deddy2339 11 месяцев назад

      @@andrewblanchard2398 Look up the Memory Beta listing for the Bluegills, dude. And perhaps understand what non-canon means.

  • @rudyrobles8294
    @rudyrobles8294 11 месяцев назад +6

    Honorable mention to the automated repair station from Dead Stop. That shit was very creepy and never was resolved either.

    • @originaluddite
      @originaluddite 11 месяцев назад +1

      Great haunted house in space.

  • @hudsonball4702
    @hudsonball4702 11 месяцев назад +16

    There are the Transporter ghosts seen a few times. Similar to what Barkley saw when he though he had transporter psychosis. And Speaking of transporter Psychosis when were IT'S origins. We never got a case of it in Any other star Trek show. ENT and Hoshi's experience is the closest we ever came.

  • @plucas1
    @plucas1 11 месяцев назад +4

    But what about the Space Koala?

  • @niamhfox9559
    @niamhfox9559 11 месяцев назад +3

    Given that the 'threat' from Picard season 1 was a technological species just outside the galaxy waiting for the same to evolve inside the galaxy to call them and they'd come and kill all living things, so my money is on them building the big trans warp corridor. Picard seemed to drop all previous threads from season to season but what if they left bits behind in the overall plot?
    The Borg being a normal species that was overridden and lost to the tech they surrounded themselves with is a pretty good story if they remain completely obliterated by their creation. It feels very apt for the Borg.
    It does make me wonder if they were a species with a collective unconscious though, like the Unimatrix zero borg drones but that was how they lived normally. Have we run into a species in star trek that has a unconscious social life before? I think I remember something vaguely like that in Voyager or Next Gen?

  • @nonamegiven202
    @nonamegiven202 11 месяцев назад +8

    yeah I do hope they actually use borgati/the transwarp conduit some day, it's a very logical fit for Legacy if that happens, unlike the others on this list that one was far more a plot hook than a mystery.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад +2

      They could do a combo of _Voyager_ and _Enterprise's_ Xindi arc where they go through the conduit and are having to explore an area of space completely unknown to the Federation trying to find out who created the conduit and why.
      They'd be cut off from additional support, but could probably manage communications by dropping off subspace relays along the way. But then one or more gets destroyed, leaving them entirely on their own...

    • @Cdr2002
      @Cdr2002 5 дней назад

      Here’s a thought; what if the conduit is an early Species 10-C encounter, and neither side will realize precisely what they’ve encountered until all those centuries later

  • @HCBailly
    @HCBailly 11 месяцев назад +21

    At first, I thought the aliens on the Shrike were the same as the ones in Schisms, due to a similar means of communication with clicking sounds, but apparently not.

    • @gabelogan5877
      @gabelogan5877 11 месяцев назад +9

      I knew there they were Changelings right away when Bev vaporized them and they turned into Ashe like that Founder Odo killed. And then Jack kept saying they kept “changing faces”

    • @meswoopnoseenothing
      @meswoopnoseenothing 7 месяцев назад

      Definitely a case of purposely throwing the audience off

    • @zerrodefex
      @zerrodefex 3 месяца назад

      I just wondered why the ones on the Shrike never shapeshifted even after it was revealed that they were all changelings. Even Vedec only changed once to capture Riker.

  • @christianege4989
    @christianege4989 11 месяцев назад +7

    The old "Rise of the Federation" novel series shows the origins of the "Silent Enemy" aliens in its first novel.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, but the novels aren't canon content. Until an explanation shows up on screen, it's not canon.

  • @CollinBuckman
    @CollinBuckman 11 месяцев назад +3

    After seeing Badgey use Rutherford's old implant to take over organics, my crackpot theory about the origin of the Borg is that the collective kinda started in a similar manner- a civilization developing lots of cybernetics to reach perfection was enslaved by an AI that they themselves had created

  • @pirate4460
    @pirate4460 11 месяцев назад +4

    I really enjoy this type of content! as you sometimes do other scifi series, the origin of the sandworms in Dune, or the one story with aliens from dune are both fascinating. Within Star Trek, I would ask "who is the chef from enterprise"?

  • @martinbennett8752
    @martinbennett8752 11 месяцев назад +3

    hmmm - given our fascination with tech - like earbuds and the new nano tech coming along, all it might need is a nano-virus, something like the tech equivalent of COVID, and suddenly we are the Borg.......

  • @markbernero9302
    @markbernero9302 11 месяцев назад +5

    How about the Whale Probe from ST IV? Where's it from? Who built it? It's something very intriguing.

    • @originaluddite
      @originaluddite 11 месяцев назад +1

      I always sort of assumed that whales made it. But, they're to Terran whales what the Battlestar Galactica civilization is to Earth.

    • @WhiteChocolate74
      @WhiteChocolate74 3 месяца назад

      Maybe it wasn't a probe but a living creature.

  • @Transilvanian90
    @Transilvanian90 11 месяцев назад +4

    Cool list! The creepier TNG episodes like Schisms are my favorite, I like it when they mix sci-fi with a bit of horror.

  • @keithtorgersen9664
    @keithtorgersen9664 11 месяцев назад +2

    The Breen are still an enduring mystery. I also have a feeling that if the Dominion War had continued past “What You Leave Behind”, they would have not allowed the founders to subjugate them, per se. They definitely seem like they have unpredictable motives.

  • @Alteringrealitystudios
    @Alteringrealitystudios 11 месяцев назад +4

    Always in time with the Treaktertainment (that's a word now)Rick kudos.

  • @trajan74
    @trajan74 11 месяцев назад +2

    6. The Whale Probe.
    7. The Remote Repair Station from Enterprise
    8. The Doomsday Machine.

  • @golddragongaming1
    @golddragongaming1 11 месяцев назад +2

    I agree that the Borg origin should remain unknown. However, I do want to know who created the transwarp conduit that even the Borg fear.

  • @BNuts
    @BNuts 11 месяцев назад +10

    I like how Cryptic brought back the Elachi, Blue Gills, and others. I also like their inclusion of the Borg Cooperative during Delta Rising, and wonder where they are doing the current story.

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos 11 месяцев назад

      They're on the other side of what had been Borg space, so far enough away that the Federation, probably, isn't anywhere near them without a shortcut like the Dyson Spheres from STO

  • @Dan19870
    @Dan19870 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm surprised that Nagilum from Where Silence Has Lease (TNG) wasn't mentioned. At the end of the episode an image of Nagilum appears to Picard in his ready room after seemingly leaving it's 'laboratory'. Now if it could appear outside its lab, who's to say that the entity didn't continue to monitor the Enterprise and her Crew for weeks, months or perhaps years after leaving the lab.

  • @Breakfast_and_Bullets
    @Breakfast_and_Bullets 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'm surprised that the automated repair station didn't make this list. There was no explanation given for who created it, and it was seen to be repairing itself after its assumed destruction at the end of the episode.

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 11 месяцев назад +1

    Star Trek doesn’t do Classic Horror well, and if it tried, it would fall flat. Not because of incompetence on the part of whoever was hired to write it, but because the franchise doesn’t tend to attract people who fear the unknown.
    TOS set the tone of just setting out into unknown space to see what was out there and we went along eagerly. The outright Halloween episode Catspaw had nearly all of the standard tropes but none of them worked because viewers didn’t question the “superiority” of the characters’ rationalist worldview. The first movie, TMP, kinda tried to go for terror with the Ginge-esque design of Vger’s extended field “body” and its theme music, but I don’t know of anyone who found it especially scary. TNG tried hard for body horror in Conspiracy but again, rationalism won out. The Borg attempt both body and psychological horror in a way but again fall flat at least partly because we know that drones can be rehabilitated.
    At best, Trek can do “Horror Lite”.

  • @Coridimus
    @Coridimus 11 месяцев назад +1

    “If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home, and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here! It's wondrous...with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid.”
    ― Q

  • @myevilplans
    @myevilplans 6 месяцев назад +1

    Let's not forget...who build v'ger? The whale probe, nomad, the andromedans...

  • @VocalClassics
    @VocalClassics 11 месяцев назад +1

    I so desperately wanted the aliens from Schisms to be involved with Vadik's allies in ST:P. (The clicking-speech was triggering hehe) Such a fabulous one-off species.

  • @milkcookies7753
    @milkcookies7753 11 месяцев назад +4

    I fart in jars and send them to my boss he thinks It's Jimmy from the tech department

  • @martinrobert6709
    @martinrobert6709 10 месяцев назад +1

    The Schisms being remind me of the Migo from Lovecraft, and why no mention of the galactic barrier and why it was built?

  • @elliotgreason1364
    @elliotgreason1364 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think Nagillum falls into the "spooky mystery" category but there's a whole episode on him already. He's one of the creepier creatures in star trek imo

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 11 месяцев назад +1

    While I do love Beta canon Borg origin stories, I will always prefer that their actual canon origin be unknown. It's part of their mystique

  • @scythemouse
    @scythemouse 11 месяцев назад +1

    Both comics and novels independently came up with the idea of 'objectors' in Solanae society. Those that disapproved of the experimentation.

  • @Kaluriel
    @Kaluriel 11 месяцев назад +1

    I would have gone with the parasite that feeds on people in their matrix and give them dying hallucinations

  • @shaytepes7351
    @shaytepes7351 11 месяцев назад +1

    Ah ST Legacy,
    Ty for mentioning it. :D
    I haven't played that in forever, looks like I'm digging it out.

  • @michaelpapp5518
    @michaelpapp5518 11 месяцев назад +2

    8:15 I call them the Borgati.

  • @jaredcolon4535
    @jaredcolon4535 11 месяцев назад +1

    You forgot about janways experience with her dad trying to get her to let go so the alien could feed off her life energy

  • @clearcutter74
    @clearcutter74 11 месяцев назад +2

    "Fear is the true enemy. The only enemy."
    -Riker

    • @augiegirl1
      @augiegirl1 11 месяцев назад

      “Only fools are without fear”
      -Worf

  • @Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis
    @Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis 11 месяцев назад +1

    Even today, decades after I first saw it, Schisms still makes me uneasy

  • @Telefoon-bi9wf
    @Telefoon-bi9wf 11 месяцев назад +7

    Bonnie kin bonnie kin!

  • @obelysk4209
    @obelysk4209 20 дней назад +1

    Destiny is my Borg headcanon

  • @Thaumh
    @Thaumh 10 месяцев назад +1

    As the Vorlons say, "Understanding is a three edged sword."

  • @dwaynehicks6838
    @dwaynehicks6838 11 месяцев назад +1

    That episode conspiracy scared the hell outa me as a young lad

  • @phillipm9285
    @phillipm9285 11 месяцев назад +2

    13 minutes

  • @GODCONVOYPRIME
    @GODCONVOYPRIME 11 месяцев назад +3

    How come there are no grays in Star Trek?

  • @gabelogan5877
    @gabelogan5877 11 месяцев назад +11

    Drives me crazy when Federation energy weapons don’t work but they don’t switch ballistic weapons

    • @Timberwolf69
      @Timberwolf69 11 месяцев назад +4

      They would have to replicate those and their ammo, as they don't have them in stock - takes up way too much space.

    • @skillcoiler
      @skillcoiler 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Timberwolf69 Well..... I would definitely take slightly less walking around space to being killed or assimilated... Maybe that is just me.

    • @Timberwolf69
      @Timberwolf69 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@skillcoiler Okay, on the later ships (about Connie onwards) this might nothave been such a big issue. But tell that to the crews of the era of the Nx-01 and before...
      And I had the impression that ballistic weapons were banned due to their lethal nature - they simply don't hav a stun setting.

    • @skillcoiler
      @skillcoiler 11 месяцев назад

      @@Timberwolf69 Well if you look at real world armories or hell even Star Trek ones you see they can be shoved in corners. You do not need a lot of space to have enough rifles and pistols along with some ammo, can replicate more ammo as needed, for 83 people.

    • @Timberwolf69
      @Timberwolf69 11 месяцев назад

      @@skillcoiler 83? If you're talking about the NX-01, as far as I am aware, they didn't have replicators, back then.

  • @AlteredBuzzard
    @AlteredBuzzard 11 месяцев назад +5

    I do love how STO picked up many of these plots and were able to actually link them together. Obviously its only Beta canon but still really well done.

    • @topogigio7031
      @topogigio7031 11 месяцев назад

      I think it's funny that Posers say STO isn't canon but Discovery is. Like, STO takes place in the Prime timeline, following every bit of detail we know of - while Discovery follows an alternate timeline created by the Time Wars during the events of Enterprise.

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 5 дней назад

    A good one for me is the TOS androids and the “Old Ones” Rahk spoke of. I wonder if they might have anything to do with those lovecraftian synthetics from Picard season 1…

  • @GODCONVOYPRIME
    @GODCONVOYPRIME 11 месяцев назад +2

    Her name is Agnes? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @danmanx2
    @danmanx2 11 месяцев назад

    I think some of the biggest mysteries are (you've talked about the first before):
    - How Did Klingons Gain Warp?
    - Did Scotty Invent Transparent Aluminium? (Which caused a huge leap in tech)
    - If Janeway changed the timeline, the original timeline of Voyager's huge journey still took place would still exist. A future show dealing with this would've been great.
    - Why do the Breen hate us? (I know they don't breathe oxygen; I don't think this was ever dealt with)
    - The ghost that was in Beverly......did it "die"? (Last is a joke, LOL!)

  • @cmj0929
    @cmj0929 10 месяцев назад

    Ehhh I just ignore the first 2 seasons of Picard, they didn’t know what they wanted to do narrative wise and half the stuff didn’t have any bearing on season 3 anyway

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby 11 месяцев назад

    The origins of the Borg should be left a mystery. Any time mysterious origins get explained (Wolverine and Joker's origins for example), it's disappointing in my opinion.

  • @tiagopatricio3805
    @tiagopatricio3805 2 месяца назад

    If we get Legacy, I'd love to see a continuation to the Transwarp tunnel mistery... Even more so as Seven is now a Captain...

  • @AshValentine.
    @AshValentine. 7 месяцев назад

    Personally I hate unresolved plot points, so Id never be satisfied with the Borg remaining unknown. What would be a good in-between resolution and mystery is if in a new series after STP:S3, follows the hero ship exploring Borg space, in order to both learn more about the Borg and the peoples they assimilated
    I'd like at the end that they came upon the revelation that the Borg were uplifted/guided into becoming the Collective, and that this is a repeating event. Every time the galaxy becomes flush with any form of advanced life, a Collective arises and tries to assimilate the galaxy, only to either be deafeated or to mysteriously disappear. The reason being that the uplifting civilisation returns to harvest the Collective and await for the galaxy to become advanced enough again to warrant a harvest
    Which is the Borg resolution. The mystery is who the civilisation is and when they are going to strike again
    Or something along those lines. I do like the idea of the Collective being a force of nature like the Reapers that constantly returns

  • @Ryadalyl
    @Ryadalyl 11 месяцев назад

    David Mack wrote a book which explained the origin of the Borg, and how they were destroyed by Captain Ezri Dax of the Destiny.
    They have been explained, the explanation sucked and their final defeat was poorly written. But it is in canon. Have a look.
    We are the Borg, you will be disinterested.

  • @MidKnight2142
    @MidKnight2142 5 месяцев назад

    I'm still curious as to the origins of the doomsday machine and the space ameba (idk if I spelt that correctly lol) from The Immunity Syndrome.

  • @keithtorgersen9664
    @keithtorgersen9664 5 месяцев назад

    Sorry to have heard about Annie Wershing's passing. I did not really get into ST: Picard, but nonetheless am saddened to hear of her loss.

  • @redixdoragon
    @redixdoragon 11 месяцев назад

    It should be said with Star Trek there is an important point to if something is on screen enough, has enough examination and understanding, it becomes less frightening. I used to agree with others and think that this is bad. Maybe it makes the narrative sting of their power or their mystery or their threat feel less. But this is a GOOD thing in Star Trek. Star Trek is all about discovery, understanding and coming to new conclusions and realizations based on that new understanding. The fact that V'ger, Q, the Borg, or anything else that was once too mysterious or unknown became more and more known through exposure, episodes, discoveries made, is the point of the narrative I think. It should be embraced that we come to know these things more and more and that we do get answers. That's much like scientific progress itself. Besides, it can't eliminate 100% of the fears. Remember Barclay knew a transporter system inside and out, and it still scared him to death.

  • @KonekoEalain
    @KonekoEalain 11 месяцев назад

    Maybe Section 31 took care of the Bluegills? I mean, they tried to deal with the Changelings and I don't doubt some neck-bugs aren't too hard for them to kill.

  • @abrakahocus
    @abrakahocus 11 месяцев назад

    Numbers 4 & 5 are both explained the STO. The clicking aliens are the Solnae and the bluegills are creatures created to infiltrate and take over a species. Both serve the Iconians...

  • @GankbotShuk
    @GankbotShuk 11 месяцев назад

    The Borg, the Xenomorph and The Thing need to all have their origins left vague. It adds to their menace, and no I don't consider later promethius films to be accurate. Too damned arrogant to make humans the creators of the aliens. Not everything needs to revolve around us. That's what makes them ALIEN.

  • @flood256
    @flood256 11 месяцев назад +1

    i don't think we'll ever see a resolution to Picard season 2, the inter season consistency was limited outside of characters and even then... so the writers probably conpletely forgot about "Farewell" the moment the script was out of their hands

  • @doubt3430
    @doubt3430 4 месяца назад

    i like what STO is doing with the borg as of today
    since borg queens are aware and able to communicate each other through time and dimensions
    whos to say they arent strategizing with eachother for a favorable outcome for the borg
    hence the borg kingdom