The Fatal Illusion: Gulf Air Flight 072's Unforgettable Tragedy
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2022
- This Air Crash Investigation looks into Gulf Air Flight 072, an Airbus A320 flying from Cairo International Airport, Egypt to Bahrain International Airport. During the approach the Captain struggles to get the aircraft into stabilised position and opts to carry out several no standard procedures such as orbits near the airfield and continuing the approach not configured correctly. Once the Captain decided to Go-around he is confronted with a flap overspeed warning and from this point his actions get far more erratic and dangerous explained only by the illusion that he needed to pitch down. This lead to the aircraft entering a nosedive and crashing into the sea only 3 miles from Bahrain International Airport.
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Wow! I will never forget this tragic event. My cousin was on this flight coming back from Cairo after finishing his arrangements to move with his family who were waiting for him in Bahrain. He was newly assigned as the ambassador of Bahrain in Egypt, so he was moving to Egypt for a long while.
That day, I was 17 years old, finished playing on my PS1, when then I walked into my dad and mom holding the phone and receiving the news while in tears.
May his soul and the souls of all passengers rest in peace. This was one of the most shocking moments in my life. It was a sad day for everyone in the region. 😢
Thanks for this amazing video and details. You did an amazing job collecting all the data perfectly and accurately. ❤
This is a crazy memory. So sorry for the loss.
Aameen brother, sad to hear this, and that time we were playing in Marina Beach Park, and we heard this news
Your family must have been close with your cousin? I couldn't tell you for most of my life what any of my numerous cousins had/have been up to, and only saw them at weddings and funerals.
@@22ergieAstakfirulla , The Sad 😢 Reality Today In the Muslim Ummah 💔💔💔
I can't even imagine what was going through your cousin and other passengers mind when they realized death was coming for them. I hope no one suffered. Allah grant them all Magfirat and Jannat-E-Firdaus, Ameen🤲
"1.5g's experienced in the turn." I recently had an opportunity to experience 1.8-2 g cornering forces. That 1.5g's must have been scary as hell on that plane
When your aircraft says PULL UP, action should be focused on doing that very thing immediately, regardless of what you may feel..
It's amazing, I've watched many crashes on this channel where the planes are doing their best to enunciate info that you'd think would immediately grab the pilot's attention, like terrain warnings or radar altimeter call outs, that go completely ignored.
Why-you been there.?
@@RobertJamesChinneryH It's just common sense
Plot twist... the aircraft is inverted and in close proximity to ground.. pull up would then be a dive.
@@hyperA380 Nice sarcasm
Wow, I stumbled on this randomly and what an unexpected memory rush that was. I grew up in Bahrain and was in high school when this happened. I remember this crash vividly because everyone was so shocked and traumatized by it. No one could understand how the plane had missed the runway and just pitched into the sea like that, and there were all sorts of theories circling about at the time.
It was such a tragic and awful thing, it obviously dominated our news for ages and hit many people very hard. I developed a fear of flying after that and even to this day landings make me nervous.
Thank you so much for making this video. I finally understand what happened all those years ago.
Thank you for sharing your story and for the nice words. I find it so amazing when people have been personally involved or affected by some of the incidents I have made videos on and they leave comments. I’m glad you found value in it and thanks again.
Landing is a controlled crash..... I think I heard that somewhere in time..... . ..seems to have some weight.
A fear of flying after 1 plane crash..... You got some issues......plz don't fly! American pilots best-trained!!
@@johnmartinelli5511 shut up goofy
Don't they say that the most crucial times of flight is take off and landing?@@johnmartinelli5511
My sisters lost a teacher on that flight, my dad was still in the army around that time- they were cleaning out the debris, the US navy stationed there also aided. Dad told me of an army official who identified his wife and kid, said he had the most hollow look on his face like his world just ended. Rip to all
When things go well in flying, they go well slowly- but when things go wrong it happens much more quickly.
An F/O with 608 hours in his logbook is flying a commercial jet??? The captain has 86 hours as PIC. I'm amazed they got as far as they did! - DM
type rated for the 320 at 608 hrs? or 608 hrs in total experience?
So what should we establish a rule that new command upgrades fly a whole year with experience captain ?! 😂
Im a pilot, and the way you walked us through this was very well done. I understood all the explanations. Too high, too fast, and worried about the office reports on your record was the issues here. Safety of the passengers and the aircraft are more important than your record. Shit happens, deal in an appropriate manner. Where was the F/O in all this?
There is a hierarchy in the cockpit, it's the 3rd world mentality that the captain is god and he gets angry if his second makes a noise. F/O felt intimidated.
People like you blaming the pilots is exactly the type of behavior that lead to them doing this. Great job Ron O'Connor.
If your family is rich enough ....they will get a pass
Its 100% corrupt in the gulf .
@@BrettonFerguson Are we not supposed to blame them? Flew a perfectly good plane into the ground and murdered 100+ people. Legitimately worse airplane management than an instrument student
@@drdorenton1060 Should probably do what 90% of the world's airlines have decided was best.
Try to figure out why they flew a new airplane into the ground. Allow everybody to be honest without fear of being punished. Take the information and look for ways to prevent future accident. Try to figure out how this could have been prevented and implement the measures so it doesn't happen again. Maybe improve the equipment, or better training for pilots, or better management at the airline, or a combination of the three. Something so when the pilots get warning alarms 10 seconds before impact, they can react instinctively and save the plane.
Or your solution, blame the pilots. The pilots caused the accident. Pilots are dead. Problem fixed. Do nothing.
Let future flights who are too high and too fast when landing keep doing 360s. Because if they have to do a go around, the airline will find out they were too high and fast and made a mistake, so will punish them. So the pilots keep everything hidden by doing 360s while landing.
99% of airlines allow pilots to report mistakes without fear of being fired. If it is deemed necessary the pilot will get more training. If this does not help and it is determined a safety risk to let the pilot keep flying, they will give him a different job on the ground. Train him for the different job if necessary.
People who fear losing their jobs can also fear losing their car, their house, their family, everything. People can get desperate and will do about anything to save their job. Soon every employee at the airline is covering up safety issues because they are afraid of repercussions. That is why most airlines don't.
Basically, the Captain and F/O failed to read and interpret the primary flight instruments, failed to establish a stable approach and then panicked when things got ahead of them.
The 'Golden Rule" - "Aviate, Navigate, Communicate". I say these as an ex pilot myself
Definitely not a cockpit crew I'd trust in instrument meteorological conditions. They probably flew manually way too often just looking out the window.
@@h8GW what /which airline/work situation is best in order to familiarize pilots with IMC flying?
It must have been such a strong sensation to override his ability to read his instruments correctly and to ignore the audible warnings!
It is an overwhelmingly strong sensation but in this case it became stronger then his belief in his instruments. Especially at night or when you are unable to see outside your instruments will give you the information you need to understand your position. This was unfortunately very avoidable!
It seems crazy to be that close to the ground and then push the nose down like that!
@@CuriousPilot90 Aileen Woods was a good friend of mine. Her mother, Margaret, campaigned for years to get an apology from Gulf Air.. the company whitewashed the incident, the Emir went along with it to save 'national embarassment'.
Can't help but think if more Europeans/Americans had been killed the investigation would havd been more thorough and heads would have rolled. But the Govts in Egypt and Bahrain treated their people as they always do.
@@josh2961 They couldn't see and, as CP explained, it makes it feel like you are in a nose up attitude and climbing. Weird how that works but I've heard it time and time again on other channels...
@@SMaamri78 He did not trust his instruments, attitude indicator, or he didn't even look at it.
I live in Bahrain I remember this crash was near our house this is the first time I know how this happens thank you
Since the information wasn't provided, here are their identities: Captain Ihsan Shakeeb, First Officer Khalaf Saeed Al Alawi. After that crash, Gulf Air was said to have switched to all British pilots. In September of the following year, 9-11 happened. I was in SA at the end of 2000, often flying out of Bahrain, and that is what was being told amongst us expats the year after (2001). So it WAS pilot/first officer error...probably not intentional, but definitely due to their incompetence.
I forgot to say, I love the ‘subtitles’ highlighting the air traffic calls.
Thanks 😁
It doesn’t speak well of Gulf Air to have had a policy of disciplinary action for a well established safety maneuver. I think the airline bears a part of the blame for this accident.
Very sad event. Great presentation. Thank you.
It's incredible how fast things can get out of control in an airplane. Everything can go from normal to almost uncontrollably in a matter of seconds
You are right, it is rare but the critical stages of flight are critical for a reason!
@Jay Talents you get in a tin can with wheel everyday with other tin cans with wheel at high speeds. That is also stupid
@Jay Talents you should look at the statistics. Your odds of dying in a car accident are greater than dying in a flying accident by *several orders of magnitude*.
@Jay Talents 😂😂😂❤
@Jay Talents what an acute observation😆 then you read stats and you realize that the riskiest part of any trip by plane is by far the car transfer to and from the airport
I think the hopeful part of these air crash events is that there are specific lessons learned and then changes implemented. Thank you for including those in your excellent videos! 💛🇬🇧
When flying hours are not as important as the number of landings. The Captain seems to have been lagging behind his aircraft all the way, almost as if that was his first night-time approach, and instrument flying was a new experience. Sadly, that was totally avoidable.
No operator should ever "punish" aircrew for deciding to perform a go-around. In contrast to crew/passenger safety the fuel costs and time delay can go to hell.
Another fantastic video. Really enjoying these informative despite it being a devastating event. Please keep up the videos, they are fantastic. ✈️
Thanks Alex!
Love, love this video.
You do a beautiful job.
Gratitude 😊
Such an unfortunate tragedy. Spacial disoriention must be absolutely terrifying! You take the high stress workload of landing, then add the additional pressures from configuration, speed ,altitude errors , a missed approach and go around. Their brains and bodies are overloaded from trying to process all information while alarms are going off, g-forces pushing and pulling amd in complete darkness. The mind and body fail each other. And at low altitude, the consequences are deadly.
If it says pull up!! Then pull the airplane ✈️ f##$ing up!!!
Fantastic video as always! Thank you .
Thanks
Thank you for this amazing and informative video!
Just discovered your superb channel and subbed. Some of the best crash reconstructions to be found on RUclips - with the professional insights of a pilot who doesn't push his personality down our throats and try to be a RUclips star! Very impressed - keep up the excellent work!
Thank you for the kind comment.
Very informative ! Thanks.
My uncle and his entire family died on that flight RIP
I still remember this tragic event happened 23yrs ago.
So near to the destination passengers getting ready to land and then suddenly this unfortunate events happens 😢
What an amazing video. Thank you!
Spacial Disorientation??? what the hell? This is why we have instrumentation. If the airspeed is too high, the Instruments will tell you. If your altitude is too High/Low, the Instruments will tell you. If your Bank Angle is too large, the instrumentation will tell you. Why then, does any pilot need a visual reference? Its night, the water is dark...this is why we have instrumentation, so we do not need ANY Visual References. So sad that passengers need to die because pilots can't read their instruments.
This is a perfect example of two very inexperienced pilots way over their head. Neither of these pilots were fit to be in that cockpit.
Seems so avoidable, training must have been substandard. A tragedy for so many. Thanks for an interesting video.
Absolutely, it would appear he became so focused on what he could feel, he ignored his instruments and warnings.
Thanks for your comment.
@@CuriousPilot90 i heard from 2nd hand sources from gulf air that this was a problem with the pilot's attitude and gulf air's CRM training during that period.
I worked at an aviation/pilot training college near to Bahrain. It was said that, due to 'wasta', (look it up), the pilot was given a licence to fly but had failed his pilot training course. Naturally, I say that 'it was said' and I cannot confirm that this story is true. Some pilot trainers might also tell you, should you ask quietly, that a number of trainee pilots who fail their pilot training courses are issued licences anyway. Plenty of people know what happened to Gulf Air 072 and it is said that Gulf Air knows also. There are some airlines that you should never fly with and, in some cases, there are some planes that a passenger should never get on.
Gulf Air, Egypt Air, Sudan Airways, PIA-Pakistan Airlines and Indonesian Airlines.
Just found your channel by accident watching the video about turbulence,as a very nervous flier I find your content very helpful and informative keep up the great videos
That’s good to hear Jason. Thanks.
Great video and breakdown...
One (little?) point not mentioned in the vid, though. The moment that the Captain (and FO, if we're honest) realized they were configured for 7000 feet and cleared already down to 3000, they were "flying behind their own plane", which sets up a scenario of "playing catch up" as some of us call it. This doubles the work-load (or more), and only increases the risks and hazards in a stage of flying (near take-off and near landing) where the vast majority of accidents and incidents already happen, statistically.
Pilots (and indeed, aviation channels) all over YT preach repeatedly, that a pilot's supposed to do his or her best to "stay in FRONT of the plane", meaning to already have the plan set ahead of time to be doing what needs done as it comes along. This is why there are so many "briefs" and checklists available in the first place.
SO... not to be harsh about the vid' here, or anything. I'm only bringing it up, because it's right in this detail that paints the "orbit" as a likely waste of time and energy, even before it still resulted in over-shooting the runway... and even before the go-around. It's probably why that "orbit" was a non-standard maneuver in the first place, and highly recommended AGAINST in the second, considering the plane's altitude and proximity to the airport at the time. It did NOTHING but "invent work" and further increase the inevitability of an incident at least, and an accident at worst.
It comes down to it, when the boom falls and chips are on the table, EVERY landing is "a go-around with the option to set her down" until YOU (as a pilot) are completely sure and comfortable with committing to putting wheels on the tarmac... NOT the other way around.
Finally, it MIGHT have made more helpful sense for either Captain or First Officer to speak up about what's actually "wrong" with the approach, specifying that they were too high, too fast, and in the wrong configuration TOO LATE for a smooth and safe, comfortable landing. Reaching this conclusion, RATHER than "the orbit" to try and "save it", would've eliminated all that "crap" (lack of a better umbrella term) and gone directly to "Go around"... making everything easier on the pilots to "recover" from the miscommunication, which could be settled on the ground AFTER everyone lived through a "little mistake". There's really nothing good to come of gambling the lives of everyone on the plane for trying to "save" a landing that's only going to be abrupt and rough (requiring a structural inspection) at best, and a screaming fireball down the runway into the terminal (or other civilian structures) at worst. ;o)
Agree with the above but...
THe serviceability of the aircraft was not a factor.
The weather was not a factor.
The approach difficulty was basically zero.
Air Traffic Control was not a factor.
The competency of the crew is the issue.
I am familiar with flight operations and crewing competency in this area.
There are some very competent operators in the local airlines - including Gulf Air the airline involved but ....
Readers need to fill in the rest.
The training record of the Captain would be very revealing.
The experience level of the First Officer is totally unacceptable and ridiculous.... not the individuals fault though.
A First Officer must be regarded as someone who has the experience and capability to take over and successfully complete the flight in a safe manner should the Captain be incapacitated - which could occur immediately (heart attack?) in the worst of conditions (thunderstorm etc).
The flight hours of the First Officer suggest - suggest - that he has had no previous experience in General Aviation or military service and has attended classroom training and a modest amount of flight training and simulator.
This should not be acceptable - and certainly would not be acceptable to the flying public , if they knew the full details of the system to which they were entrusting their lives.
This accident was a tragedy and completely avoidable.
I was 9 when it happened, the world was so different back then , we anticipate the newspapers to know about it and we catch some information from relatives and friends .. i feel sorry for their relatives, can't imagine the passengers situation at their last moments of their lives
Great Video! I appreciate all the interesting insights into aviation and also human error. Also, the animation is great!!
You may want to consider turning the volume of your voice up a little bit or the background noise of an airplane flying down.
Thank you so much. Also thank you for the feedback, I have hopefully improved on this in my more recent videos. :D
Super interesting! Such a shame, thank you for making this!
No problem, always interesting to see why these incidents happen.
Agreed! Keep it up!
video reference was an intelligent way to describe the incidence. well done
This is the most unnecessary aircraft crash I’ve ever watched…minimal confusion, no mechanical problems, just two pilots not paying enough attention to the task at hand.
Excellent presentation.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
"Spatial disorientation": guy sitting in the pilot's chair suddenly realizes he is supposed to be flying an airplane, and is not at home in bed, asleep, as he thought.
As a Bahraini Immigrant, I’ve always wanted to learn about major Bahraini events. This was the one of few I didn’t understand. Thank You for making this❤
I’m glad you found it interesting. Thanks.
An inexperienced crew for sure ... well not a sensible balance in experience between the Captain and The First Officer.
I can understand the brain getting confused. Perhaps someday they will create technology that can tell the pilots how high they are off the ground and whether the nose is climbing, level, or descending.
is this a joke?
@@Furyistic It's sarcasm. Although this pilot behaved as if the technology did not exist.
@@dimitri1515seriously! like the first thing that should come to your head is if you’re overspeeding, you should pull the stick back to slow down a little.
@@Furyistic I've watched almost 70 of these plane crash videos, and it's sad how many were pilots not paying attention. One of the saddest/dumbest was a nighttime crash in the everglades and two seconds before the crash the first officer says "we're still at 2000 feet right?"
Why would a pilot ever ignore an audible warning in the cockpit??
I think confusion and disorientation in an airplane at low altitude creates a chaotic situation in your brain that shuts out logic and response. My guess is he never heard it or he heard it but didn't process it.
Thanks for this beautiful channel. This is a beautiful report. I wanted to know about this tragic accident that took place in my country (Bahrain), but I did not know the cause of this accident. This incident has not been documented on TV or the Internet. Why?
Hi, thank you. I'm not sure on that one. It is a fascinating incident, unbelievable to see how influential the feeling the Pilot received was.
You just can’t believe an experienced pilot would make these sorts of errors..All those people snuffed out just like that..I’m never gonna fly again
With all the technology we have today, I'm sure there is a way to show the planes actual location in relation to the ground and to the airport in a see-through display on the windshield. Even if it's dark outside and you can't see a thing, it could show you exactly where you are and what to do to get back to the visual sight of the ground, or see the lights of the runway. Anything that tells you where you are, if you're going up or down, with clear warnings of what to do. It could determine if spacial awareness has become a problem and to advice with to do to get sorted out, like turn on autopilot. This would help with spatial disorientation a great deal I think.
Well documented
Your channel's going to blow up, 500000 within the year. Excellent, frank narration, just you. No voice acting. Thoroughly enjoyable.
Just watch out… there is a notorious one in there with some voice acting from me… it caused a bit of a stir 😂
I was living in Bahrain and didnt knew this happened and I travelled with gulf air lots of time, I wasn't even born when this incident happened. But i think they made lots of improvements and when i traveled the service was good !
aIs there much difference in distance measurement between earth and in the air. So London to NewYork land measurement is X miles but at 30,000 feet it more miles-ohh,, do they end up flying a slight curve or straight ish? Does the bulging of the seas affect this or is it negliable
what was this guy thinking? unbelievable.
From the first glance, I think that the airline company is to blame the most in this story because they allowed this pilot to be in command only roughly every 11th of his >1000 flight-hours on this airplane type.
With this fact in mind, it doesn't wonder me too much that he hadn't enough practice in flying to be able to keep his situational awareness needed to handle this situation.
i remember this night very well and hard to forget it, i was 13 back then and playing PS1 and suddenly got the news and it was a nightmare.
my cousin's husband is an airport firefighter, he finished his evening shift and on his way to go home, got a call that he needs to come back immediately due to Airplane crash
he was one of the members to recover victims, he still gets nightmares.
Why these issues happen......start with the management issuing targets, rules, that make no sense. Go arounds are rare, yet creating a management 'culture' that punishes any deviation eventually leads to these totally preventable absurd accidents.
Every time I see/read/hear about somatogravic illusion / spacial disorientation, I wonder why the pilot isn't looking at their horizon indicator. They've been in planes nearly since their invention and the ones since the 50's are generally quite accurate. I get when you see and feel something that you might have pause when the instruments tell you something different, but this phenomena has been known and trained to trust your instruments.
Confirmation bias
Looking at the energy state of the aircraft, the crew was still in Cairo when the plane joined the final approach. I'm not an Airbus pilot but trying to salvage the straight in approach at 10nm should have immediately involved aggressive corrective measures ie full speedbrakes and gear down... The lack of positive reaction on the part of the crew shows that they became aware of their energy state very late during the approach, when the only safe option left was a go around.
This shows very poor situational awareness.
The company culture then pushed them in a corner - don't lose face by going around...
Performing an orbit at low height, in landing configuration, at night and over the darkness of the sea was certainly not a sound idea to get back on track.
And the final nail in the coffin was the poor basic IFR flying skills leading to a much preventable impact with the water...
Captain was flight engineer at Tristar and ground engineer when Tristar gone then pilot I think most of his flying hours was counted when he was flight engineer
Ignoring the GPWS warning and the constant “PULL-UP” commands is one of the most unfathomably stupid things I’ve ever heard. That should be the absolute top priority in any situation. I understand that a lot was going on, but that is beyond unforgivable
My credentials: CPL/IR,had done FOO & worked as Air traffic controller for 7 years,worked as airline pilot for 32 years,flying has become very stressful,overwhelming automation,too much of monitoring/scrutiny, everyone catring cameras in their hands,having said that Air traffic controller could have helped the crew by taking them on radar vectors initially,when approch & landing not possible. The co-pilot(Pilot not flying) was poor professional and not assertive
Unreal
Amazing , thanks a lot , yes what you explained was totally correct, its human error
Crazy. It's drilled into your head to go around if the landing is questionable. A single safety form and a remark on a record overruled that concern.
I still remember this sad day, i was a small kid back then. The entire country was in the state of Mourning, rather entire Middle East was😔
That is a tragedy 😢😢😢 because they lost their life 😵💫😢😢😢And as you say we have to comprehend and to learn for the future to avoid the same accident !
I was staying in Dubai UAE when this tragedy happened, I born and raised in Manama Bahrain.
If you want a challenge, do a report on the Gulf Air that was shot down over the UAE during a military exercise around 1985 (or possibly earlier). The debris was kept at Al Bahteen airport in Abu Dhabi for many years.
There was no shoot down of Gulf Air I can see. Do you mean Iran Air instead?
@@tomstravels520 Nope. There was a Gulfair B737 that was shot down and kept a near total secret. I was in the UAE in 1987 and actually saw first hand the bits in a covered area at Al Bateen airport in Abu Dhabi. The Iran Air was another issue and one that whoever ordered the firing on the USS Vincennes should have been sent to Leavenworth Texas for at least 30 years!
@@tomstravels520 Nope. There was a Gulfair B737 that was shot down and kept a near total secret. I was in the UAE in 1987 and actually saw first hand the bits in a covered area at Al Bateen airport in Abu Dhabi. The Iran Air was another issue and one that whoever ordered the firing on the USS Vincennes should have been sent to Leavenworth Texas for at least 30 years!
@@Swaggerlot seeing as I cannot find any information on that I’m going to say that’s false. The closest I can find was a Gulf Air 737-200 that was bombed in 1983
@@tomstravels520 Could be that aircraft. What's the 'bombed' details? Its not 'false', that's impertinent. This aircraft was in small bits, so a explosion en-route could be a possibility, just like a missile strike. However that was not according to my sources in Abu Dhabi.
No mention of the strong suggestion locally at the time that the pilot was not competent, having been promoted in questionable circumstances.
Shocking display of flying and management skills. The Captain is a child captain and the f/o should have still been flying single engine Cessna’s. Pretty much zero to precious little experience on this flight deck. Somewhat predictable outcome.
I wonder if there was enough training experience in the flight deck. The flight hours...
A go around situation was my most fear inducing moment on a commercial airplane. I was travelling with a colleague from a business meeting back home and as we lined up for landing, you could tell the pilot was having difficulty staying on the centerline. The engines revved up and down and the plane rolled from side to side. Looking out the window, I saw we were probably 400-500 feet off the ground when the engines spooled up to TOGA power and the pilot commenced a go around. About a minute later, the plane was in a turn back to final and I swear, there had to be bank angle alarms going off on the flight deck. At a minimum, we were at 40 degrees right bank and, like the passengers on this plane, I could feel we were experiencing something more than 1.0 G. My colleague and I looked at one another as if to say, "This is interesting" but inside, I was instantly thinking of all the commercial aircraft that stalled and crashed due to excessive bank angle at low speed and altitude. As we rolled out and landed several minutes later, I was white as a sheet. Absolutely terrifying.
Go arounds are one of the most normal things we do as pilots? It shouldn't be a fear inducing situation at all - if you were to tally up the amount of planes that have crashed due to overbanking in a climbing turn with the amount of successful go around landings, you would see less then .000001% of planes that have gone around have crashed. It really isn't a big deal lol
Seems odd, and maybe it's the result of the illustration in the video, that they didn't see airport/city lights and use them as a visual reference. Common practice when the horizon is no longer visible is to refer back to instruments. How a two-pilot, professional crew could both make this error is astonishing. Clearly possible, but quite puzzling in the end.
It seems that at no point did the flight crew have a stabilised approach. I cannot help but think that a lack of proper pilot training is the prime cause of this problem. And confrimation bais also played its' par in this tragedy. And to top it all off, a culture of belittling a pilot who did a go around led to decisions which killed everyone on board.
Interesting that the first officer only had 200 hrs before flying atp and type? I remember 200 hrs. Just above a novice, and single engine land ( with glider rating). Just starting to feel comfortable. And he is flying an A-320? Or am I missing something.
They need to learn how to fly without the technology
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regarding Gulf Air crash 1983 , September near Abu Dhabi 112 passengers were targeted by terrorists,via a cargo bomb, I lost my elder brother in it
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I dont understand that, when I drive a car for example, I look in the mirror to make sure I'm not just relying on a feeling that the road is free. In the pilot's cockpit there is this part that shows the inclination, how come it is not immediately obvious?
That's true on paper, but when your body is telling you the opposite, it becomes almost impossible.
Just to correct this was not the original livery of the plane it was different and classic
a pathetic 200 hours and o:to a passenger A320?
job for a connected man's favorite son...result: catastrophic loss of life.
nepotism kills
There is no downside to “pulling up”! You’re not going to crash against a cloud.
When disorientated and utterly convinced you are already nose high so low to the ground, you might be worried any nose up input would induce a stall.
Spatial disorientation and somatographic illusions seem to be more common at night. To avoid such accidents, would you say that scheduling flights where, ideally, the take off and landing is done when there is some form of daylight is preferred?
The added risk of night flying is not nearly high enough to limit travel in such a massive way
@@mattd6085 Yes, I agree. However, as air travelers, we can book flights that ideally depart and arrive when there is some form of natural light.
@@oldporkchops you are more then welcome to do that yes. The rest of us will carry on as normal
I remember this
I am always afraid to fly these airlines, Gulf, Ethihad, Emirates
airbus normal law should level off or climb (engage auto-pilot) when gpws goes off. Maybe it does now from the lessons learned from AF crash
Great example of poorly trained pilots being hired to fly commercial ac with less and less hours to meet pilot demands! So sad
An ILS Approach would probably saved this plane .So rich states and they spend no money on an ILS system !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Confusing .did it crash or not ?
So basically, because corporate has a case of the azz for "missed approach", 150 people lost their lives. Unbelievable.
Always when aircraft accidents are due to clear pilot errors, there are plenty of excuses and justifications to explain why pilot did that error . In this case, beside the multiple errors during the approach and orbit, it is absolutely not a justificación the theory of espacial disorientation to pull joystick down. As a pilot flying at night without external references and very close to ground, you must check your aircraft attitude in your bloody instruments to find out if you are climbing, turning , nose up or down. Sorry these pilots were useless and never should have been in command of a passenger flight. No reason or excuses not to have check their instrument to see speed, angle of attack, rate of climbing , wing leveling etc. Non excuses at all
Hard to put a thumbs up.
Why did the airline put someone with just 4000 hours into the Captain´s seat, especially with an F/O with only 600 hours?
To make a mistake. It sounds like he did everything that air traffic control said but still over flew the runway.
@@mosoulreal7806do you think something suspicious happened to this airbus
First officer only 608 total flying hours. That's not enough imho.
Hope it wasn’t deliberate …the continued downward pressure by the PIC …RIP 🙏
Strange. The A320 computer don't allow deploy flaps at certain speeds and the first full aileron bank input is 33 degrees, for more bank, the joystick has to be moved to neutral position and a second full aileron input allow a bank of 66 degrees. So if the pilot banks with 36 degrees, he had to give the second input wich goes from 33 to 66 degrees. Hmmm
This is incorrect. The aircraft will bank up to 66 degrees if you keep the sidestick to the left or right. If you put the sidestick back to neutral it will then reduce to 33 degrees until you roll it the other way
-planning to visit Bahrain.
-RUclips recommendation:
is this about what happened when someone who's never fly a plane made the rule?
The captain set himself up for failure
It was a sad case.I would off thought the Auto-Pilot would off brought the
plane down onto the runway.If,I am correct the pilots could enter all
the information into the Auto-Pilot for this to happen.I could be wrong.
There is a reason SOP is kept and observed, just follow the instructions, when all system fails improvise, or else simply follow SOP.