Is Hoyoverse afraid to get criticized?
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- This video is about the new CN Drama about the Chinese content creators, who said that hoyoverse knows about our concerns about the game. But instead of trying to listen, they are allegedly trying to take down small content creators trying to criticize their game. (I hope I'm not on the hit list.)
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Well hoyoverse read our survey
But its been read by the HSR team
I had no interest on checking WuWaves, but after all these, I will check it out. Genshin's "rewards" are terrible; character design-wise is bad, almost requiring new 5-stars require C2 to feel right, 4-Star DPS are GG and 4-Star supports need C6; Slow QoL updates; Wasted Co-op; the list goes on.
i disagree with ur take about "its bad that we have GG 4 star DPS", is in that good?? so we are not forced pay to win in game??also i believe WW 4 star character most of em WILL be Good and GGS.
@@swordmaster4448 Thats good. Which 4 Stars are you using atm? Mine is Yaoyao and sometimes Benett or Sara, no DPS
@@MarcSy noelle as geo DPS lol, but soon when WW came out im gonna main pink hair woman with big sword, how about u? what WW 4 star u want to main?
@@swordmaster4448 Still no idea hahaha! But WW is looking really good.
Lmao if you think getting rewards is all that matters you are definitely a brain rotted kid parroting his favorite streamer.
Dude would it even matter if uou get 3, a hundred, a thousand? You’d still be gambling, the prices of currency would still be high, you would still be an unlucky piece of shit. Lmao it’s all an illusion and if uou think creating discourse over something so meaningless is better than just playing and having fun or stop playing and not suffer, they oh boy, you have a problem. Get some help
Did they say when they will give out the 3 fates, cuz i dont recall them sending the wishes.
hoyo: look at tectone scream non stop
hoyo: nah we will never talk to person this abrasive, the moment we give something to these people what they want 1 to 1, they will immediately claim ownership of the game .
Hopefully the MIIT involving themselves in mihoyo's bad reviews and stuff will get shit going in our favor 🙏
People keep trying to shame those asking for better rewards (I'm one of the ones asking for a 5* selector) and, to me at least, it's like how can you not see that Hyv literally doesn't give af about their players, whales or f2p. For examples of a possible f2p literally giving to Hyv anyway: fanartists and fan art, while something the artist can make profit off of, yes, is just literal advertisement for Hyv. It just is. Memes, social media conversation, video analysis on the meta are other potential f2p's who add to Hyv's success. Also writers and their fanfics. HELL, cosplay - these all benefit Hyv. And this is just a few examples of how Hyv my have not gotten even a Welkin out of you but you contributed to their success.
I was a welkin buyer in 2023, but I've been here since 2021 and I feel like the time I put into genshin was just compared to shit flushed down the toilet.
A 5* character selector would be the start to an apology. But Genshin never *would. So I'm moving on to WuWa.
why you all are not happy?
whales are common because a gacha
now they have released star rail and honkai part 2 is coming soon
another avalance of money ....
and you think something will change?
are you all delusional ?
To be fair the game works fine, but lacks endgame. What is the point of spending on constellations if you can beat all the content without it?
I've heard it has everything to do with the games' producers. Honkai Impact 3rd and Star Rail have the same producer and get good stuff and Genshin's current producer used to be the HI3 producer, and they didn't get anything back then either.
The reward thing doesn't really bother me. what bothers me is that I think most players wouldn't even know what the characters do if there were no build guides or something like that. I would like it, if the characters have little symbols on their image like a flexing arm for buff or a hospital cross for healing. or if you acend a character to lvl 90 to get one of those colorful wishes or like for lvl 20 you get 10 resign slots for lvl 40 10 more and so on. I installed the game like 2020 or 2021 and after a couple hours I stopped playing cuz I was so annoyed by the lvl cap for each quest a few month later I got myself to play some more and now I am AR 56. and I still have no idea what do do.
(I get everyones point. some players are like "start the game--->Dailys----->ALT+F4)
well, the characters do have stuff in their talents that detail what they do
of course! but not everybody wants to read threw the talents @@frosteyetheseal9270
3:25 As a male, I lost it there XD
YEAH YOU'RE A MALE JUST LIKE ME BUT YOU DON'T HAVE SIMPLE SELF RESPECT!
WHAT MALE ARE YOU IF YOU DON'T HAVE SIMPLE SELF RESPECT!
@@TKP83349 I mean I do have my self respect. I don't fall for pixelated waifus lmao. I just see them for enjoyment, I am not a typical weeb, I know how to differenciate between anime and reality. Trust me :)
Great video!
I think you could've leaned a tad more into the "players want QoL and endgame" side. Just a tad.
I mean, yeah, what endgame do we have: the TCG, Spiral Bayss and maybe the Teapot. But it is baffling to me how they have developed such an interesting combat system yet don't really implement modes to use it. To long term players this also diminished the reasons for pulling for new characters. Why do I need to roll on a character when I already beat the game (aka 36 the Abyss or whatnot)? Only reasons would be: they offer a totally new and unique playstyle or they're hot/likable. But I don't need to C6 e.g. a Clour Retainer because she's hot xD (opinions on this may very stongly)
the endgame is simple you do story , get chrs and build them and then with those chr you EXPLORE THE FUCKING WORLD to do 100% on a map and as stupid as it is to need ot explain this to the we need "endgame" aka difficult content croud let siple state a fact genshin devs state that genshin is CASUAL gacha game and CASUAL GAMES dont have difficult content and the DEV STATED THAT WILL NOT ADD ANY KIND OF DIFFICULT CONTENT 2 TO 3 YEARS AGO .
@@anteprs7908 Sheesh, chill. No need to shout. I know fairly well that they said on the v4.0 preview livestream that their focus is going to mainly be on exploration. If it was 2-3 years ago, it would've been close to launch or Inazuma release. But they really didn't clearly state this until the 4.0 preview livestream to my knowledge. And the reason they gave for this was rather weak: "We don't want players to burn out". Sure, if you truly want that, make content not timegated. Not limited to certain event periods. Remove the Gacha system. Heck, remove combat alltogehter. Why not make it a waifu/husbando walking simulation then, lol?
In order to explore the world you don't need to have all 5* C6. The only real reason for people to spend on new characters is to either get them because they are new players and still need/want to build a team or because they like them.
Now, imagine you go to a bakery and see a sandwich that you really like. It may look nice in the way it is plated or maybe it's just really nutritous. Let's say you get this and expect to be able to it and enjoy it to the fullest, but then the baker says "we don't do that here. You may nibble at it a bit daily or take a single regular bit out of it every two weeks. And if that's not enough you can still look at it". That would rather defeat the point of it, right?
And to be frank, even if most people like to show off their sandwiches or like to nibble away at them and it brings them joy, that's fine. But shouldn't you at least be able to consume the prodcut in a way you see fit? It isn't so far fetched to eat food after all, it was made to be eaten.
It is just very two-faced imo to "not want people to burn out" whilst also adding so much missible and time gated content.
And I don't want omega difficult content to be forced down players throats. I'd simply like and optional way, even without Primos at stake, to actually use my characters what they were designed for: combat. And not just press E on my C0 Kazuha and kill everything in one hit while travelling on the overworld, lol.
There are so many features that would make the players burn out less but where are those QoL changes? Like the resin system as it is now or artifact farming? Those could easily be improved on.
Yes, it is a Gacha game. Yes, it is a cozy game. But why add so much stuff like the TCG or the Teapot for people to do but nothing combat related? A second endless Abyss that gets new floors every patch or something akin to a co-op Abyss without the biweekly limitations would be fine. Maybe even add difficulty adjustment as they have for so many time limited events to make it more accommodating to players. Sprinkle some Mora and maybe Heroe's Wit or weapon enchancement crystals as first time clear rewards and boom. Happier players.
It's neither difficult to implement nor would it hurt the game's essence.
@@kaleidsbox6915 first the whole food stuff is weird and i see no logic in a game being compared to food .ppl gather chrs simple because they like them or have addiction .
"And I don't want omega difficult content to be forced down players throats. I'd simply like and optional way, " would you say the same for dark souls shoulD they also add causal content if it OPTIONAL LIKE A EASY MODE .the problem is you meta chaser dotn use chr you use 3 support and 1 dps that cry why my dps chr one shoot thing that not game play and not how it was made to be . also unless you got sheilder trust me the open world can sometime be a challange..
"Yes, it is a Gacha game. Yes, it is a cozy game. But why add so much stuff like the TCG or the Teapot for people to do but nothing combat related?"
well simpel tcg and tea pot are casual content while for combat you have abyss and the open world .
@@anteprs7908 Wow, thanks for dismissing my food analogy, as weird as it may be.
Anyways. I'm not a meta slave nor a whale. Up until about a year and a half or so ago, I dolphined on some Welkins and in 1.2 I got the $30 crystal pack so I can get the last few wishes need to guarantee my Ganyu. And except for Hu Tao (C1) all my limited 5*'s are C0. You don't need to C6 units to beat the game. It's easy. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't get the option to use our characters more.
Yes, people gather characters because they are completionists, addicted or maybe just like the characters. That's basically what I said. But why then even give them abilities? You don't need the combat in a game to make people pull for reasons like this. And you don't need combat to have an explorable open world, housing system or TCG. Just remove it then, lol. And it's not like they have to reinvent the wheel to implement more repeatable combat modes either.
Let me pull a "you" here: The whole Dark Souls stuff is "weird and doesn't make sense. I see no logic in comparing two games not even related to each other."
Yes, TCG and Teapot are cozy mechanics. Exxploration, however, is also for casuals. It's not a "combat" themed game mode. It implements the combat, sure, but only as a means to an end. The only thing close to endgame combat we have is the Abyss. Maybe even the domains. But none of them are repeatable indefinitely in a meaningful way. There is no further goal behind it. And the domains don't even change enemies every once in a while. It's the same everytime for each domain.
I really don't like how people just dimiss all this as "nah, you don't like playing "casual", you don't like "our way of doing things?" and basically tell us to eff off. We just want to also have our place in this game. And, again, it's nothing impossible. Far from it. And just because I don't really enjoy the TCG or the Teapot doesn't mean I say "You don't like combat? Then you must hate Genshin!". No. Those are neat modes you can enjoy if you want. But as a live service game with an audience far across different playstyles why not even try to cater or at least communicate with them? But no, keep it as low effort as possible to rake in the bucks. That's all there is to it.
You're free to enjoy the game as you like. But if you hate people like me who want a combat mode added to the game, then please also harass all the people who say things like "Please increase teapot limit" and similar things. There are enough out there, that just want things to improve for a game they like. And there's nothing wrong with it.
@@kaleidsbox6915 i dont care if you want combat added but you dont get to DO MORE DIFFICULT CONTENT if you cant understand that a CAUSAL FUCKING GAME HAS NO DIFFICULT THAT BRAINROOTING ON YOUR PART . it against the vast mayority of players wishes and the DEVS VISION OF THE GAME and the genra of te game that why we dont want harder content even if optional this a game cater to SINGLE TYPE OF PLAYER THE CASUAL ONE the player who plays to relax and have fun and a CASUAL PLAYER NEVER EVER AND I MEAN EVER LIKE OR WANT TO DO DIFFICULT CONTENT THAT MAKES THEM A MIDCORE PLAYER. you can ask for diferent content but you have no right or fair "criticism" to demand something as bad or drastic as that if you dont like the current combat or exploration or story or gathering chr that ON YOU not the game . i dont like dark souls should i now have the right to demand a easy mode to cater ot me ?
you lost me when you decided to reference posts mujin made. this dude lives and breaths misinformation...
true he is funny at times but he is very much a troll
No, that's how it's always been. If 51% say yay, who cares about the other 49%?
Plus the story isn't that impressive. Only with a few exceptions here and there.
Six months in, and it's little more than a distraction with a predictable plot and build order.
my take is 3 intertwined is not mistake from hoyoverse or genshin. they are know what theyre doing. these people make quality game and success doin marketing on game. for 3 years they have given us 3 intertwined as reward!!! its obviously MOCKERY its to good to be mistakes and coincidence. thats why some of chinese player are MAD.
Facts
No money for Hoyo, simple. Let's boycott until they add end game content
@Zentsuuki Your point being? If you are F2P then uhh, you can show some dissatisfaction, but you have less right to complain and your voice matters less, obviously.