Why Hoyoverse Will NEVER Listen to Us.

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @PsQueak2
    @PsQueak2 9 месяцев назад +59

    They're more concerned with catering to the new player experience and bringing in new players, rather than satisfying old ones. That's the whole thing. We've ran our course as veterans, we've served our purpose. We've given them money and advertised for the new guard. That's the cold reality. Retention isn't the goal, recruitment is. And it feels so disrespectful.
    Edit: Here's the thing though, there's a concept called market saturation. This is when there's simply no more new customers out there to market to, either because everyone who is going to play it has, or for other reasons. This is the same reason game console sales drop so much after the first few years - if you are interested you already have it.
    At some point you need retention rather than a focus on the new. Hoyo.hasnt reached that point yet but with how many people played the game, or have played, it's only a matter of time before new players reach saturation

    • @ziephel-6780
      @ziephel-6780 9 месяцев назад +7

      Plus, Wuthering Waves and others will take in not just old players, but also the new. This is gonna end up biting them in the ass in the long run.

    • @EmiiK
      @EmiiK 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@ziephel-6780 they might be gambling on just waiting to make retention efforts only once WuWa and other titles are about to drop, as making efforts now will likely fade from user memory and they hope most users won't realize its only to prevent moving over to competition (and then promptly stop caring about vets again once those games lose relevance like Tower of Fantasy did)

    • @dembi2770
      @dembi2770 9 месяцев назад +2

      It has nothing to do with hoyo caring about the new players. The thing is that hoyo doesn't care about its players. They already know that people are still going to pull their wallet out even if they use them like slaves.

    • @MK-yz2pr
      @MK-yz2pr 9 месяцев назад +3

      You're absolutely right. There is a reason why every major update in the survey we have question "Would you recommend playing Genshin to another person?" Or something like that, and you choose from 1 (absolutely no) to 5 (Absolutely yes). When they will see massive change towards 1, that's when they will do anything for current players.

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 9 месяцев назад

      old players often act like they made the game successful, they didn't, good games become successful regardless. also i hate people who think they must always have some sort of ability to flex over new players like it means anything. I am glad they continuously cater to new players

  • @alexoceanmeow
    @alexoceanmeow 9 месяцев назад +16

    I want the community to now start being vocal to incoming players. To me that's all I can think to stop GI from getting more money. Someone on twitch was saying they were interested in GI bc its so big and I laid it on thick how predatory GI is and how they don't communicate and uncaring to players and I thankfully had another saying "yup. That." We need to deter new players from even becoming new players. I spoke no lies about GI either. Since whales won't stop whaling, I think we just need to be vocal forever about how GI is just a predatory gacha and maybe help others to not fall into this pit. It's not even a fun gacha past 6 months. I do like genshin, but this whole thing has me realizing how unexciting the game is until an archon quest.
    And before someone comes in with a "just quit," I am moving on. GI hates its long term players.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 9 месяцев назад +1

      Anyone who actually has a life still has a shit ton of story quests, hang out events, and chests left to find. I'm not defending Hoyoverse, but you have to understand that they aren't catering to people with no lives.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 9 месяцев назад

      Anyone who actually has a life still has a shit ton of story quests, hang out events, and chests left to find. I'm not defending Hoyoverse, but you have to understand that they aren't catering to people with no lives.

  • @DT-yw4ob
    @DT-yw4ob 9 месяцев назад +20

    It's really sus tbh.
    A controversy bigger than ever before happens and a banner with the 2nd rerun of a character and another character everyone and their mother was calling mid up until 8 hours before it dropped SUDDENLY becomes the best selling one?
    Even bigger than Furina??
    When ONLY HOYO has the actual hard data???
    Yeah, I call bullshit.

    • @redpandalover911
      @redpandalover911 9 месяцев назад +11

      finally someone who understands. There's no reliability behind those banner sales + hoyoverse literally has used botting many times before to cover their mistakes

    • @IrrelevantOaf
      @IrrelevantOaf 9 месяцев назад +9

      It is bullshit data. Ain't no way they expect me to believe that Xianyun sold more than Furina. Xianyun is niche as hell and her major selling point is just her being a waifu for the degenerates. Like, yeah Nahida is probably carrying hard outta the two, but still it's sus as hell.

    • @usubenidango
      @usubenidango 9 месяцев назад +4

      Maybe a lot of people bought shenhe and ganyu’s skins, so that inflated the numbers? That’s the only explanation I can think of because no way Xianyan sold more than Furina

  • @MCRecordSetter
    @MCRecordSetter 9 месяцев назад +14

    I will sit here and wait for Tectone to react to this video...

    • @claire98
      @claire98 9 месяцев назад +4

      omg I hope so. I love his reactions lol

  • @MultiCommissar
    @MultiCommissar 9 месяцев назад +10

    I'm a stubborn Millenial who never quite made the transition from customer to consumer.
    If a company does me wrong, I drop it and move on. Brands have no loyalty to you, and neither should you to them.

  • @Spades-r9o
    @Spades-r9o 9 месяцев назад +19

    Imma be so forreal rn . I’ve played Honkai Impact 3rd up to Captin lvl 88 . But I started very late . Genshin is really giving me Honkai Impact 3rd vibes rn . Whenever I login to Hi3rd I feel like a casual genshin player but I do feel like I make a genuine effort to get on that progression wheel but the hill is just too steep . And even when I look at what lays beyond that progression wheel , it has endgame but the content doesn’t feel the most rewarding . The rewards from events are similar to or worst than genhin for the effort required . And it’s a similar story for abyss , Elysian Realm(Roguelike thing that’s fun the first 20 times but gets repetitive fast) and dailies .
    Are the characters and combat fun and High quality ? Most certainly . Do I feel like my time and efforts to progress my account and stick through the rough patches are rewarded ? No . And I played that story up to Chapt 35 or something so I do have some sense of attachment to a fair portion of the cast . Hell raiden is why I even bothered touching it in the first place . But these days I cannot bring myself to touch it .
    Recently I didn’t login to genshin for 2 weeks or so because I was flipping my tablet for a Gaming Laptop (Legion) . Even the returnee rewards and cloud retainer - a character I’ve been looking forward to for years didn’t feel like substantial enough incentives for me to really want to sink my teeth in the way I used to . Keep in mind I’m the type to 100% exploration regions .
    I don’t think people truly examined how bad 13 summons for 3 years is . Cause it’s not like that’s 13 summons out of 90 like we all pretend it is . In average people will loose their 50:50s and the ballpark for how much you should expect to spend to get a character is closer to 150 . So 13 isn’t a drop in the bucket but a grain of sand on the ocean floor .

    • @VetoShizu
      @VetoShizu 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ironically HI3 made me go back to Genshin lol. I got to Chapter 3 in the Elysian Realm and it was fun but started to get tedious. Also it felt like pressure to do Arena, Abyss and I forgot what those missions are called for the open world quests but that resets every few days. My problem with Genshin is no resin overflow or any requested QoL that players have begged for. I'll drop Genshin whenever I'm bored but I can't say i never enjoyed the game.
      I'm just waiting for characters like Rita and Kiana to come to Star Rail, waiting for Wuthering Waves and playing through the Yakuza games now.

    • @terrycornelius4
      @terrycornelius4 9 месяцев назад

      As a HI3 player myself (and still am one) I can't say I haven't been getting bored with the recent updates in HI3 (because let's be fr, doing the same thing over and over again can get boring) because then I'd be lying. But imho, I think Genshin does the same but it feels even worse with even less things to do (when you cleared all of their maps). If anything Genshin's the one game that keeps me doing the weekly HI3 content ironically lmao because my motivation to do anything significant in Genshin is far less than the motivation I have to clear HI3rd's Abyss, MA and ER.

    • @Spades-r9o
      @Spades-r9o 9 месяцев назад

      @@terrycornelius4 I’ve been very hands off-ish with Hi3rd as of recent despite having in installed . I’ve “completed” all of Elysian Realms’s (I’m sorry I had to skip some of the yapping) and I can clear the content . Although I appreciate the more various forms of endgame I can attest it is mind numbingly repetitive or increadibly teadious . Your character may rather just eat the content alive or you really have to stress your build and line up the right cards to get through . And it feels like there is no inbetween . I do have a big issue with gear in Hi3rd in comparison to genshin but I’ll also admit my knowledge game is weaker as I started late so ….part of why I probably think Genshin is a bit better .

    • @Spades-r9o
      @Spades-r9o 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@VetoShizu Very much understandable . I barely keep up with Hi3rd myself and I do play HSR , story is good , content is loaded . It’s just not my type of game I think . And this is coming from someone who’s played it to a fair depth getting to trailblaze level 69 and 29starring Forgotten hall once or twice . Like I can’t pull myself to make a turn based my main game , so atp I’m really praying on WuWa.

    • @supernieva2419
      @supernieva2419 9 месяцев назад

      That's why i think genshin is good especially if your a casual player. You don't need to grind to catch up you can just finish archon quest and story quest. Then play other games available on steam,ps5 and switch.

  • @Soyo_Nagasaki07
    @Soyo_Nagasaki07 9 месяцев назад +12

    Sad...but it is the truth....Another Pokemon Mindset where the Devs only loves new players & doesn't give a shit to their Loyal Veteran Players.

    • @dan9563
      @dan9563 9 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂😂. Why should they give a shit.
      Because their loyal. So loyal that they cant even uninstall their game and keep give them money.
      And yeah if i a Hoyovers why should i care.
      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @rjabanador465
    @rjabanador465 9 месяцев назад +1

    This Wuthering waves is just getting ridiculous right even thought I agree on the people on Genshin they should step up their game before natlan shows up other wise that new game is just going to keeping stealing all the money and players along with it besides we haven't even reach to the end of lumine and aether's journey yet hell there's more things that we all haven't got answers yet like will aether or lumine be able to get back their original powers or what's going to happen in natlen and Snezhnaya even Khaenriah hell people are also curious about Aether will ever reunion with sister they have a happy ending or good ending or a bad and why did Lumine join the abyss order in the first place and will we able to play as Lumine on the party list or dainsleif nor they never got to tells about the third descender!!!!

  • @alexferrier5732
    @alexferrier5732 9 месяцев назад +33

    Vote with your damn wallets, thats it.

    • @wendigo7253
      @wendigo7253 9 месяцев назад

      Bro tthe banners broke a new record those fkn chinese players

    • @dembi2770
      @dembi2770 9 месяцев назад

      Not gonna happen. Gamers are too stupid.

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 9 месяцев назад +1

      youtube is less than 2% of the playerbase my guy

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 9 месяцев назад

      But most of us aren't giving them money.

  • @thejuggernight1406
    @thejuggernight1406 9 месяцев назад +5

    the worst part is that half the new players can't even level the new units till they play most if not all of the game because all of the ascension mats are locked the actual new player experience isn't even being fixed. it is being fixed for the people who play the story through and are stuck at what to equip. they neglect the old players who care about playing the game so eventually the new players will be unsatisfied too as they either will just quit the game due to grind or quit the game because after you grind you don't get any real value. you don't have a skip button so if you are interested in leveling you have to mash your way through the story. truly a genshin could never moment they can't even cater to the audience they want.

  • @Romuloser90
    @Romuloser90 9 месяцев назад +5

    hoyo did something much worse than 'not listening' to its players. She is CENSORING those who criticize the game, even though she knows they do it because they want the game to improve, and not out of pure toxicity. Furthermore, to get around the fact of losing millions of followers, she decided to invest her expenses in social media bots to reevaluate Genshin and comment on the game, instead of investing in Genshin and listening to its players who show a lot of dissatisfaction. In my opinion, I have no other LOGICAL option other than to stop playing momentarily, until the company shows a minimum of respect and changes the direction of Genshin. For those who continue playing and spending $, even though the company doesn't give a damn about you: you deserve the crumbs that hoyo gives.

  • @claire98
    @claire98 9 месяцев назад +6

    I actually think it's ridiculous how little they care about their loyal players. I play the game with low expectations, and sometimes, I'm still left disappointed :(

    • @Romuloser90
      @Romuloser90 9 месяцев назад +3

      the simple fact that you play a game and the company ignores you and doesn't care about your existence is already disappointing. I can't understand what it is about this game that players can't just abandon it even if they are completely dissatisfied. In a few months you finish exploring the entire map and start making all the stars in the abyss easily, and then you realize that you have no 'reason' to continue playing, and yet you continue, still unsatisfied! It doesn't make any sense hahaha

    • @usubenidango
      @usubenidango 9 месяцев назад +1

      @Romuloser90 Fomo… it’s called fomo.
      The fear of losing gems or limited weapons from events because they never como back.

  • @alatusedits
    @alatusedits 9 месяцев назад +29

    GENSHIN COULD NEVER

    • @xiersome.
      @xiersome. 9 месяцев назад

      genshin did so cry abt it

    • @mr.edelweiss
      @mr.edelweiss 9 месяцев назад

      genshin doesn't care, cry about it. ​@@xiersome.

  • @IdefinitelyExistIThink
    @IdefinitelyExistIThink 9 месяцев назад +6

    genshin could never
    genshin would never
    becuz won't stop spending money. they dont get that if people not buy xianyun, the game would eventually have a rerun
    but they still sprnd money

  • @ToiletBread1651
    @ToiletBread1651 9 месяцев назад +3

    This whole thing has been great for me. I have been looking for any excuse to drop Genshin. I don't want to know how much I've spent on it over 3 years, but i kept logging in due to sunk cost fallacy. All of that is over now. I have 10 more days on Welkin, then I am uninstalling.

  • @RexamCoding
    @RexamCoding 9 месяцев назад +2

    I'm waiting for Wuthering Waves to be released to migrate from Genshin definitely. I'm definitely not happy of the lack of communication from Hoyo in general.

  • @Titanicus560
    @Titanicus560 5 месяцев назад

    It’s hilarious that this guy said the thing about wuthering waves and right after the games release Hoyo announced new endgame and raising the resin cap. Humm INTERESTING

  • @izanagiuzumaki7325
    @izanagiuzumaki7325 9 месяцев назад +2

    Also just wanted to point, Star Rail is getting a system in 2.0 that lets you lock your good artifacts and flag bad ones for mass conversion / deletion as you get / check them after clearing a domain. Something I had been putting on Genshin surveys since the dawn of time. Just add to pile of Genshin clownery.

  • @MrGamelover23
    @MrGamelover23 9 месяцев назад

    I fucking love the commissions replacement. I hated doing commissins every time I play. Also, considering that, based off of RUclips comments, the guy who became the manager or team leader for Genshin Impact was fired from Honkai Impact 3rd because he thought they shouldn't have a pity system. I don't think anything will change unless they fire that guy.

  • @ark_ing_982
    @ark_ing_982 9 месяцев назад +3

    Good points.

  • @fredtheboss7653
    @fredtheboss7653 9 месяцев назад +1

    yeah guys just stop spending and ull win , trust we have the advantage literally, they're ignoring the community because they think they'll just forget about it , be smart and keep harrassing them guys

  • @wyspreegamings6380
    @wyspreegamings6380 9 месяцев назад +1

    Don't worry. I won't cave in until Natlan releases. That's like after Summer this year right?

  • @えな-i1s
    @えな-i1s 9 месяцев назад +1

    They don't care cause they already milked players. That's evident waaay before. Events and others except the story is the only thing going for GI up to date😂

  • @bitfrosteseigeheim5605
    @bitfrosteseigeheim5605 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is what happened if a "Game plays you". GI Playerbase can correct all the mistakes and solve everything in 2022 from the start but could never. Today, Genshin Impact Community becomes a sheep and a it's shepherd by it's producer/Mihoyo itself

  • @IdeasAreBulletproof
    @IdeasAreBulletproof 9 месяцев назад

    The Newer players Mindset will bite them in the rear if Actual good Competition sweeps the older players away alongside getting Interest from other Players

  • @YelanSlave-Tao
    @YelanSlave-Tao 9 месяцев назад +2

    PARASYTE MUSIC SO FUCKING GOATED BRO 🔥🔥🔥

    • @VoidEnigma
      @VoidEnigma  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah I think it really fits here!

  • @TrentDan
    @TrentDan 9 месяцев назад +1

    They posted that the current banner broke the previous sales records.
    RIP Boycott.

    • @IdeasAreBulletproof
      @IdeasAreBulletproof 9 месяцев назад +1

      It wasn't ever a Boycott. Remember they Crave the Attention people put even it is Negative attention on their Game. More people probably saw the Controversy entering the Game as new Swipers then people who Boycotted the game.

    • @laudzafajrul1043
      @laudzafajrul1043 8 месяцев назад

      ​@IdeasAreBullet😊proof

  • @ShrekisLuv
    @ShrekisLuv 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lol i get told on the gi discord
    Any1 mad is "entitled "okay bruh

  • @limkorvey1929
    @limkorvey1929 9 месяцев назад

    Its simple. New players seeing new awesome character = willing to pay and spend than old players who know that spending on this game is bad.

  • @jasperreyes5174
    @jasperreyes5174 9 месяцев назад

    Do you guys know why GGZ Global Server Shutdown happened...?
    The cash flow dipped low enough that it wasn't worth it to miHoYo to keep the Global Server Running...
    Also...
    Twitter will have miHoYo shutdown because of how in GGZ Story...
    Playable Characters Die...
    Some Characters are below 18 years old...
    Most Importantly...
    Level Up Items are Pantsu...

  • @zeldahyrule3127
    @zeldahyrule3127 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have no intention on playing anymore really until the next archon quest. Legit, I find the game is boring for veteran players and I have better things to do.

  • @Swagbastian
    @Swagbastian 9 месяцев назад

    TRUE

  • @blazeyprime4470
    @blazeyprime4470 8 месяцев назад

    When you talk about hoyo, you really mean the genshin dev team. The HSR team isn't like that, lol.

  • @Exhalted1
    @Exhalted1 9 месяцев назад

    You say that as xianyun is getting incredible sales and genshin is back to no.1 in revenue out of ALL of gacha games even overtaking star rail, so you gotta ask yourself, the same people saying yeah! boycott genshin!! rewards bad!!! is grinding genshin 24/7 and spending to get xianyun so talk is cheap and nothings gonna change because at the end of the day everyone's a genshin sucker and genshin is making money regardless of outcry so why would they change?

  • @danielkurtz3045
    @danielkurtz3045 9 месяцев назад

    As long as a huge portion of the playerbase is made up of people who a boycott will never reach, it is largely hopeless for you Genshin players. Maybe you'll get another 10 pull, thats the best case scenario I see. If you could actually get 10% or more of the playerbase to stop spending money, that could do it. But people are so addicted to this game.

  • @Naruchyo-c1v
    @Naruchyo-c1v 9 месяцев назад +2

    There is a context to this that many western audience dont get, so basically CN issue is with cultural insensitivity, but the cause has been infiltrated by the western CCs, especially with Tectone and Mujin's disinformation attempt at framing Cai Haoyu, for anyone who doesn't know, Cai Haoyu has stepped down from leadership position since last year, and in Sept 2023 he moved to R&D division, the guy is a programmer (not a people person like DaWei), this is why the EN community want to frame him to get him fired or hated. But if you do a simple google search, you can easily find the news that Cai has not been in a leadership position for a long time.
    The CN community then tries to protect Cai and dispelling the rumor by buying more banners. You need to understand that things you see on the internet can be disinformation.

    • @Shindy117
      @Shindy117 9 месяцев назад +1

      That literally makes no sense. Let's dispel rumors by buying banners. If chinese people actually think that.... that's dumb. The logic there

    • @Naruchyo-c1v
      @Naruchyo-c1v 9 месяцев назад

      @@Shindy117 How does that makes no sense, they want to show support for Cai against the western propagandist, to say that the boycott propaganda was fake, that the CN audience is still with Hoyo

  • @wendyhelen3031
    @wendyhelen3031 9 месяцев назад

    If you don't like it, just stop spending money and leave. I leave Aura Kingdom Online. Now the game only consist of white knights who keep spend money. I also stop playing Dragon Raja SEA cause it is heavy P2w and repetitive contents. The game losing so many old player but still exist thanks to whale players. Garena Free Fire also losing so many players. We are selling old accounts for so cheap price and stop caring.
    People treat game like investment. Just don't do it. That is why never spend a lot of money in the game. The price will be drop and you will cry in the room. People are stop think about play game for fun and not cause investment.

  • @knives5972
    @knives5972 9 месяцев назад +2

    you guys still waste money on this game?

  • @Subliminalgeniu
    @Subliminalgeniu 9 месяцев назад +1

    W video

  • @projectsin8216
    @projectsin8216 9 месяцев назад

    ofc they wont who are you to them anyway if u were you stop playing and yapping about it do something else irl it would you feel better no stress instead of farming drama and vids that already know nothing gonna happen on your boycott

  • @Kaimifune
    @Kaimifune 9 месяцев назад

    Bro. Your not updated huh. The boycott drama has backfired. They broke the 1st day banner sales with xianyun and nahida banners. Its the Highest yet thanks to the free promotion and advertisement of these so called haters

  • @SteamedBunXReverse1999
    @SteamedBunXReverse1999 9 месяцев назад +2

    Who is US?
    Do you know HOW MANY PEOPLE are actually playing the game?
    Compared to how many people are following tectone.
    Do you know MOST of tectone's player participating the drama doesn't even playing Genshin?
    Don't use US. Use Me. Because there is NO US.

    • @jevs1555
      @jevs1555 9 месяцев назад

      Your takes on this game are so asinine and delusional.
      And glazing sure aint helping you or your dead channel.
      Not to mention you got cooked twice. Clown.

    • @VoidEnigma
      @VoidEnigma  9 месяцев назад +9

      I have clearly stated whose perspective I am referring to in this video, 1:20. I am referring to the long time players in this aspect.
      As for who is “US”, that would be anyone who is respectfully voicing their opinions regarding Hoyoverse’s business practices. Whether it comes off as “negative” or “positive” or “drama” as long as we are not attacking each other, then we should be able to communicate our concerns. I understand both sides of the coin, and I have taken my side. That is who “US” is from my perspective.

    • @claire98
      @claire98 9 месяцев назад +7

      bruh💀 I saw your video about the issue, you literally sounded like Hoyoverse paid you to say those things. This isn't about Tectone or VoidEnigma or you. This is about a company leading a toxic relationship with its players

    • @BulletSponge71436
      @BulletSponge71436 9 месяцев назад +1

      Don't be a selfish prick. The game needs improvements and it seems that you don't understand that.

    • @wyspreegamings6380
      @wyspreegamings6380 9 месяцев назад +6

      Hello walking fallacy

  • @JabelldiMarco
    @JabelldiMarco 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, a company gives their product (in this case, a game) away for free, and people still are angry, because they don't get the premium gift box on top of that...
    ...unbelievable the entitlement.
    Could you please make the same fuss about Microsoft expecting their customers to pay something for anything?
    Is there an evaluation how this kind of players are distributed over age?
    Is this possibly a Gen Alpha, Gen Z or Millennial specific behavior?
    Or something correlating with nationality?

    • @lucg4005
      @lucg4005 9 месяцев назад +4

      Nah, it’s mostly people who have been playing genshin for a while now. Rewards are one thing, but it’s more so people getting fed up with the lack of qol changes that have happened, and the fact that stair rail is getting the changes some have been asking for years. Entitlement? Maybe, but hoyo are supposed to keep their player base happy. If they think it isn’t good, only way to tell them is to voice it. Seems that it don’t matter if they still swimming in money, so I guess most who wanted the change will probably leave the game.

    • @marcosmoreno72
      @marcosmoreno72 9 месяцев назад +2

      Nah its be normal, not a piece of shit like you.

    • @Xokas2.0
      @Xokas2.0 9 месяцев назад +1

      We found a Mihoyo whiteknight troll

  • @IrrelevantOaf
    @IrrelevantOaf 9 месяцев назад +2

    Casuals will always be the main target for these types of companies. Don't know why they can't just focus on all the players as a whole instead of just the ones who'll login once in awhile. It's their business strat that apparently works as stupid as it sounds. Wish Hoyo would quit it with this behavior since it's a surefire way to slowly lose their longtime players trust, kinda like Pokemon with Game Freak tbh.