Are All These Vanilla CEOs A Good Thing?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
  • Did you know that 12% of Fortune 500 CEOs are Indian? That’s despite Indians only accounting for ~1% of western populations. With that being said, there’s no question that Indians have excelled quite a bit within the world of tech-leading companies like Google, IBM, Microsoft, and Adobe. But, while these CEOs are hard workers and highly talented, are they actually the right people for the job? This question has less to do with their ethnicity and much more do with their background. In general, Indians don’t typically follow the entrepreneur path to get their CEO jobs. Rather, they are master politicians and corporate ladder climbers. In other words, Indian CEOs are eerily similar to MBA businessmen. In fact, most of them do have MBAs even if they have a stem background. This video explores the pros and cons of MBA businessmen and whether all these Indian CEOs are actually good for these companies.
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Комментарии • 602

  • @nilaydupare6983
    @nilaydupare6983 Месяц назад +804

    Even Logically Answered CEO is Indian goddamn

  • @abhiwins123
    @abhiwins123 Месяц назад +155

    Also your need to add why founders don't stay CEO
    1. Sexual affairs
    2. Shady deals during initial stages
    3. Exhaustion in dealing with compliance and shareholders
    4. Substance abuse
    Etc

  • @amarbir22
    @amarbir22 Месяц назад +305

    I think there are two main reasons why there are so many Indian CEOs
    1) Large workforce is disproportionally Indian/immigrant (Specially in tech). It is a good motivator for the board to place an Indian at the stop seat to keep the workforce aspirationally motivated to grind.
    2) Generally speaking Indians are are "Yes" men. a great incentive for a board/founders to put a Yes man. (Read about Larry, Sergey and Sundar)

    • @adityaanuragi6916
      @adityaanuragi6916 Месяц назад +28

      Here's my take
      1) immense population, since India's got a large population there's also a larger probability for anything to happen, China isn't exactly the case as China is also a lot more restrictive
      2) Since academic success is a huge thing in India ( and many other Asian countries aswell) the people often try hard so that's another reason

    • @sidhuthesmwgroup
      @sidhuthesmwgroup Месяц назад +8

      ​@@adityaanuragi6916 you're wrong on so many levels.

    • @adityaanuragi6916
      @adityaanuragi6916 Месяц назад +1

      @@sidhuthesmwgroup how so?

    • @Number69
      @Number69 Месяц назад +12

      There would be more Chinese for (2) above - education and in workforce - except many start their own enterprises in China.
      Most of the science courses have disproportionate numbers of asian students, presumably as they do not go to college to get a degree with poor prospects.

    • @amarbir22
      @amarbir22 Месяц назад +12

      I forgot to add the most important point, Indians get things done. The lack of creative drive is perhaps being compensated by desire to grind.
      Although I do see Indians are catching up big time on innovation and creativity, for example CEO of preplexity and many others like him.
      All stereotyping aside lol. It would be nice to have a future where only thing that matters is your individuality and skill. Nothing else - period.

  • @itchylol742
    @itchylol742 Месяц назад +194

    As an investor, I don't care about the CEO's nationality as long as they do a good job running the company. As a customer, I don't care as long as they don't mess up their existing products that I use

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +37

      Agreed, but do you care if they’re visionary vs vanilla?

    • @itchylol742
      @itchylol742 Месяц назад +32

      @@LogicallyAnswered As a tech enthusiast, I prefer visionaries because I want cool new products, but as an investor I want vanilla CEOs. I will accept lower returns in exchange for lower risk

    • @sidhuthesmwgroup
      @sidhuthesmwgroup Месяц назад +11

      ​@@itchylol742 Exactly, that's why nobody knows you as an investor.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +17

      Fair enough

    • @Zuranthus
      @Zuranthus Месяц назад +12

      @@sidhuthesmwgroup bruh, everybody with stocks is an investor, chill

  • @KimetsuNoYaiba100
    @KimetsuNoYaiba100 Месяц назад +65

    Steve Ballmer drove the stock flat for 14 years. Things started picking up only after Satya Nadella.

    • @destructodisk9074
      @destructodisk9074 Месяц назад +8

      Flat is not bad. However listening to shareholders always has companies succeed mid term. Listening to shareholders also always has companies bankrupt in the long term. Shareholders are in it for the money, not the health of the company. Growth in the near term trumps everything else. Growth is the only thing they care about.. but it is a fact that growth can never be infinite. You will eventually bump up against the walls, which is the phase Microsoft is in right now after many years with Satya listening to shareholders. So now they scramble and panic to squeeze out more profit from anywhere they can. Allow their OS to become riddled with adware and preinstalled third party software. Start turning everything into a subscription. Find every way they can to collect data and sell it. Buy out all the competition they can.
      The last few years of growth until the walls collapse, the shareholders start selling, and they are forced to shrink, go bankrupt, or sell parts of their business off. Pump pump pump… pop! The Wall Street cycle is always the same.
      The companies that have managed to stay alive the longest.. are companies that are flat.

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 Месяц назад +5

      ​@destructodisk9074 Satya did far more than blindly follow shareholders. He changed the culture in many ways. Balmer was anti-open souce and very "us vs them" leadership. Satya was Pro open source as much as MS can be, worked with Apple to promote O365 to Macbook users, bought Github, and bought Open AI that has changed many things in technologically advance nations.

    • @sa1168
      @sa1168 Месяц назад

      The critique in the video is fairly retarded. Satya revived MSFT and made Azure no.2 Cloud with a different model. Not even mentioning that and downplaying that is fairly myopic. Look at MSFT stock, he is regarded as one of the best tech CEOs out there.. oh but he doesn't make flashy products that don't have commercial success. What a shame! (note xbox never made money for MSFT, and neither did PS for Sony for a long time)

    • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
      @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 9 дней назад

      In tech, flat is absolutely bad. ​@@destructodisk9074

  • @aelavia93
    @aelavia93 Месяц назад +117

    Sundar's first response to the question at 8:25 should have been "bro, that's an iPhone"

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +17

      😂

    • @_Mike.P
      @_Mike.P Месяц назад +12

      If it has google services on they can still track you.

    • @parshu.9309
      @parshu.9309 Месяц назад

      😂😂

    • @SuplexCityF5
      @SuplexCityF5 Месяц назад +6

      The guy in the video might sound smart but I'm having my doubts that he's not

    • @erabhikdasgupta
      @erabhikdasgupta Месяц назад

      Ideally google shouldn't know. Each of our tracking data should be encrypted and stored so that only we have access to it. If we have allowed Google to track our movements, it should be done by just tracking the geopositioning of my movements and not attach my name, email, number, age, gender, or racial data to it. Take all geopositioning data without any other data attached to it and put them in a data lake. In that way Google can know someone moved X distance not that I moved X distance. Thats the difference. Its a very simple answer and didn't need more context as Sundar asked.

  • @Play_Streams
    @Play_Streams Месяц назад +4

    You gotta love Zuck. Over 20 years at the helm and still has full control of the company. That is BOSS.

  • @Papasot
    @Papasot Месяц назад +49

    Bro is the veritassium of the financial space!!! Good job

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +5

      🙏

    • @fieryfirevivin
      @fieryfirevivin Месяц назад +1

      Veritassium is garbage though

    • @Papasot
      @Papasot Месяц назад +1

      @@fieryfirevivin I haven’t seen the latest videos but the old ones are good

  • @manwiththeredface7821
    @manwiththeredface7821 Месяц назад +38

    I've worked with Indians in the Anglosphere and one thing they know is how to get ahead in a corporate hierarchy, how to manage, who to be close to, who to elbow, who's ego to inflate, how to build their own image etc.
    Not all deserved that success though...

    • @anonymousperson9735
      @anonymousperson9735 Месяц назад +6

      You left out scamming investors. That's another thing they're good at.

    • @bunty396
      @bunty396 Месяц назад +2

      Rahe it from an Indian all these CEOs I come higher castes in India … read Ambedkar for more information

    • @kamartaj3010
      @kamartaj3010 Месяц назад

      And most are bootlickers of their white masters just to get benefits in corporate world. They do the same in india too. Bootlicking the senior to get ahead.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh Месяц назад +3

      ​@@bunty396Upper castes work hard because they don't have any reservation.

  • @haroldpierre1726
    @haroldpierre1726 Месяц назад +128

    I am waiting for Dave Chappelle to do a funny monologue about the Indian conspiracy in Silicon Valley.

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL Месяц назад +6

      I mean they're basically doing what China did in the 90s and 00s, but they're not creating an incentive to go back to India like china did.

    • @anonymousperson9735
      @anonymousperson9735 Месяц назад +4

      @@KRYMauL facts. This is why I'm against legal and illegal immigration.

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL Месяц назад

      @@anonymousperson9735 I disagree, there should be a way for illegal immigrants to become citizens. Also, everyone in the US is an immigrant, unless you're native american.

    • @The_DASHER
      @The_DASHER Месяц назад

      ​@@anonymousperson9735 So what's your solution?.To collapse almost all western societies.And being against illegal immigration is very reasonable but why legal immigrants

    • @batosato
      @batosato Месяц назад

      I would love to see that. HAHA

  • @jberczi6
    @jberczi6 Месяц назад +24

    Satya is generally regarded as the best CEO working today (maybe outside of Jamie Dimon and Buffet). He's made almost exclusively good decisions after taking over from Ballmer, who did a lot to fuck up the once largest and fastest growing busienss in the world

    • @evancombs5159
      @evancombs5159 Месяц назад +5

      That really depends on what you are looking for in a CEO. Satya has been very good at being conservative, and focusing on Microsoft's strengths instead of chasing Apple, which was a much needed change of pace. That is great if you are most concerned with producing the most profit today, but it may come at the cost of producing more profit tomorrow. Right now Satya has Microsoft going down the same path as IBM where the consumer side of the business is increasingly less and less important. While being a top cloud provider is likely to be more robust business model than IBMs business offerings, if Microsoft continues down its current path its influence (and thus stock price) will slowly degrade over time until it is just a shell of its former self. Satya was what MIcrosoft needed at the time, but if Microsoft wants to avoid being the next IBM it will need to find a more ambitious CEO at some point.

    • @DevKulkarni
      @DevKulkarni Месяц назад

      ​@@evancombs5159 I believe that you are missing the point of what Microsoft is trying to do. Microsoft thrives more on building products that are specialized. They have embraced the fact that they can never match Google in building products that are for generalized consumer applications.
      Even the consumer products that Microsoft builds henceforth will not be as widely excepted as say google search they will be diverse and for different consumers with different usecases and ofc the biggest diversity in that is of business applications. That's why Microsoft was dead focused on that.

    • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
      @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 9 дней назад

      ​@@evancombs5159Windows is still king at PCs. Linux is not going after their market share anytime soon.

    • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult
      @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult 9 дней назад

      Satya is arguably the best CEO in action today.

  • @mrguiltyfool
    @mrguiltyfool Месяц назад +92

    If you have a visionary ceo usually founders that it becomes casino like. If you have boring mba indian ceo, you got a yes man

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +34

      Classic dilemma between abrasive founders and vanilla MBA CEOs

    • @mrguiltyfool
      @mrguiltyfool Месяц назад +7

      @@LogicallyAnswered If it is for retirement investment, I want a vanilla MBA ceos. Other than that I want a visionary

    • @4bioshock4
      @4bioshock4 Месяц назад +5

      Just because the guy in the video sounds smart he might not be actually smart and that's why he's still doing RUclips videos 😂😂

    • @anushagr14
      @anushagr14 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@4bioshock4he himself founded an investment platform

    • @marktomm
      @marktomm Месяц назад

      @@anushagr14 what's the name of the platform🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @manhoosnick
    @manhoosnick Месяц назад +7

    I take pride in these Indian CEOs because when we were kids we were only seen as corner shop owners or smelly resturant owners but now it is inspiring us all to see representation at top level ;).
    Chapati power ftw

  • @destructodisk9074
    @destructodisk9074 Месяц назад +5

    Omg the Sundar politician segment gave me flashbacks of last month when I had to get a refund on my car rental, because the booking company (Hopper) booked my car pick-up for 11:30 PM, but the rental company closed at 10 PM (my flight landed at 10 PM). So essentially they had the wrong booking information and hours in their app, of the business they booked me with. I literally spent hours upon hours talking in circles to one guy at an Indian call center that represented Hopper.
    I must of said “Sir, did your company give me false information on the location’s hours and cause me to not be able to pick up my car when I arrived? A yes or no answer is all I need.”. And then he would constantly refuse to answer with a yes or no, and go on long talks about how they have to work with third parties, and it’s not their fault. He refused to let me talk to anyone else. He refused to talk about refunds and instead would talk about how he could book me with another company for a small fee of $100.
    After perhaps 4 hours and no progress, I just decided to do a chargeback.
    Don’t use Hopper to rent a car :-(

  • @diogonunes1608
    @diogonunes1608 Месяц назад +12

    You're wrong on this one: The Xbox CEO admited to "losing the console war" not because of a good transparency culture, but because Microsoft is changing is business model from Consoles to Subscriptions.

    • @profdc9501
      @profdc9501 Месяц назад +1

      Such admissions are a way of managing the expectations of investors. They want to justify losses so that they can buy time until there's something else to distract shareholders with.

    • @christiancsq
      @christiancsq Месяц назад

      The subscription has nothing to do with their failure at all

    • @rowmen
      @rowmen 20 дней назад

      Consoles don't matter if you flood all platforms (including playstation) with microsoft games (which call of duty is now included) hehe

  • @SarimAshrafi
    @SarimAshrafi Месяц назад +61

    This is so true. Both Microsoft and Google are really struggling when it comes to innovating new things. They keep cancelling exciting products. Windows Phone was killed, Stadia was killed, Microsoft Surface has not improved, Gemini is still not good. Microsoft even fired Panos who was really passionate about making exciting products. Satya and Sundar are great businessmen but I think they dont vie for innovation and new exciting products.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +6

      Exactly this ^^

    • @user-xr3rb6pn9m
      @user-xr3rb6pn9m Месяц назад

      Microsoft is not doing too bad when it comes to AI. For years, Edge was a browser to download Google Chrome and Bing was even more useless than that but Microsoft managed to turn it around. Now I trust Bing AI much more than Google search which is so poisoned with ads you can barely find anything useful.

    • @yami7509
      @yami7509 Месяц назад +2

      Then where is innovation in iPhone ? I don't think apple ceo is Indian now, is he ?

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK Месяц назад +1

      Instead of really promising innovations, they make completely unnecessary products
      like Copilot and try to force their use by introducing them where they are not needed, and then just bury them next to other unsuccessful products, while at the same time the main product that once brought them to the forefront.
      is often broken and in need of repair,
      this is the case with windows with its terrible technical condition
      and android after version 11, where file handling is like a disaster, so slow and horrible that I go crazy when I need to find the right photo....

    • @SarimAshrafi
      @SarimAshrafi Месяц назад +4

      @@yami7509 I think the biggest innovation that came from Apple in recent years was their M1, M2... chips. It just changed the game.

  • @Austinkungfuacademy
    @Austinkungfuacademy Месяц назад +5

    This was an awesome piece, and quite informative and enlightening, and something mainstream media would not dare touch, lol! Interesting to term us as American-Indian. Of course, most will understand that you are referring to Desis, not Native Americans. Generally, the ethnicity is first, then American second (eg African American), but I like how you have American first! It helps challenge the "perpetual foreigner" syndrome many South Asian Americans face. At any rate, well done, Hari! This video will blow up!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +1

      Hahaha thanks Santanu! I really didn’t mean for this video to be “inflammatory”, but looks like a lot of people aren’t able to look past the title. Switched the title to be something a bit more vanilla haha. Hopefully future comments will be more insightful and nuanced like yours!

  • @neanda
    @neanda Месяц назад +2

    many good points here Hari. It's like once the company has gone through its innovative startup phase, taken all the necessary risks, and has now gone public, the shareholders really just want a safe pair of hands that will do the sensible things and not to rock the boat. Do
    That was interesting the way nadella said "only if you want me to be CEO", that really does say it all, i bet the board nearly wet themselves at those words.

  • @ZxZ239
    @ZxZ239 Месяц назад +20

    Dude, you got balls of steel for making this video, talking anything bad about India/Indian online is brave man.

    • @onetwokaafour
      @onetwokaafour Месяц назад

      Dafuq are you talking about?! One of the most frequent racism and unfair negative stereotypes are against Indians

    • @phabove7
      @phabove7 Месяц назад +2

      Na, honest criticism is accepted.

    • @moogly7125
      @moogly7125 Месяц назад +6

      He himself is of Indian origin.

  • @mosesotieno7964
    @mosesotieno7964 Месяц назад +22

    I've started to learn programming. Whenever you like this reply it'll remind me of my Goal to become a big Tech CEO in Ten years (I'm just looking for likes man ) and become the first Kenya Big Tech CEO

  • @noferblatz
    @noferblatz Месяц назад +35

    Just so you know, "American Indians" refers to Native Americans. "Indian Americans" would refer to ethnically Indian people who are American citizens.

  • @suprashank
    @suprashank Месяц назад +152

    India 1GB daily Internet is readying up for warfare 😂

    • @honor9lite1337
      @honor9lite1337 Месяц назад +1

      It's scam.

    • @bankrupt4808
      @bankrupt4808 Месяц назад +7

      @@honor9lite1337 what the f bro

    • @NISHUGARVU
      @NISHUGARVU Месяц назад +7

      It's unlimited now
      Cry harder 😂😂

    • @SuplexCityF5
      @SuplexCityF5 Месяц назад

      Marc Zuckerberg is a visionery? Seriously? 😂😂

    • @SuplexCityF5
      @SuplexCityF5 Месяц назад +3

      If the guy in the video would have the smartness to lecture all these ceo's he'd probably be one of those ceo's but he's not. Something to think about before believing anything that he says 😂

  • @okman9684
    @okman9684 Месяц назад +11

    Actually the biggest problem with biggest company taking risk is that if the industry dusrupts due to their innovation then they will be the one who feel the tremble.
    For example google is reluctant to integrate AI into search because it could interfere with their entire business model of people scrolling for websites and watching google ads on them.
    But i think the best way to make big companies grind is to have more and more competition. For example microsoft integrated AI in their search even though they are big company and the changy was huge for a browser but they were the underdog of search industry and any growth or disruption is good because they hold a small market cap and the only way they go is forward.
    Thats the reason why US aviation industry is lacking because Boeing don't have any insensitive or desperation to innovate while US aerospace industry was in the golden era when there were companies like mcdonnell Douglas, Northrop corp, Grumman corp, Lockheed corp, Marietta were fighting for big market share which lead to many innovation but now they all made peace with each other and kept the industry behind

    • @rocketPower047
      @rocketPower047 Месяц назад

      Found peace = merge

    • @quakethedoombringer
      @quakethedoombringer Месяц назад +1

      Aviation industry in general also becomes super conservative because:
      a) Merger acquisition. See the list of aviation companies you just listed? Now, if the DoD wants to design and buy a fighter jet, there are only 3 options. If any country wants to buy a passenger jet, it's either Boeing or Airbus. There is incentive to innovate when you haven't swallowed up your competion
      b) Jet, especially passenger plane, are an expensive investment, mostly around maximizing safety and comfort and meeting a thousand of other specific regulations. The last time the aero industry truly innovated was when the Concorde came about, and that thing came with so many issues about cost, supersonic boom, cramped space, etc. that it was retired in 2004

  • @TobiasStarling
    @TobiasStarling Месяц назад +9

    Basically competent and won’t rock the boat. Happens to every business. Start innovative then gradually die and be replaced by managers.

  • @Daniel-Six
    @Daniel-Six Месяц назад +4

    This was a great one, Hari. I've been wondering about this for a long time.

  • @knightride9635
    @knightride9635 Месяц назад +3

    Very good video, impressive work. Thanks!

  • @bhoumikparmar2836
    @bhoumikparmar2836 Месяц назад +2

    Hey Hari, I think for the most part, you are perhaps right. Although it might be the case that as you mentioned about Jobs, Steve and the others who've built the company from scratch first hand, they treated it as their own child & hence thrived for innovation along with growth. Contrary to the 2nd or the 3rd generation CEOs who just want to grow the company doing their job.
    Also may I know was this calling out to Indian CEOs just a trick to gain more impressions on your content?😂
    PS: keep up the good work, love your content!

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks man! Well, I’ve always wanted to make a video about the trend of Indian CEOs. I have dozens of videos exploring the success stories of these guys. So, I wanted to explore the other side as well, but as you probably saw, a lot of people are just reading the title and getting triggered haha :)

    • @profdc9501
      @profdc9501 Месяц назад

      Steve Jobs turned Apple from a corporation into a cult of personality. Looking at Elon Musk, who has only had his own cult of personality tarnished by associating with white supremacists and acting like a spoiled teenager, had Jobs lived he probably would have turned Apple into a state-sanctioned religion. Indian CEOs don't have this kind of charisma.

  • @Kushagra.j
    @Kushagra.j Месяц назад +80

    God i hope the comments section will be civil and not resort to petty Name calling and Insulting.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +16

      Hahaha, one can hope

    • @gandiashop9391
      @gandiashop9391 Месяц назад

      I will start insulting you. Yellymuscles

    • @Kushagra.j
      @Kushagra.j Месяц назад

      ​​@@LogicallyAnswered I'm an actual Indian here (Not native American or Indian American 😂) so I hope the responses aren't filled with end up in Paj33t this Paj33t that or even worse.

    • @kowboy702
      @kowboy702 Месяц назад +2

      You are filled with many faith

    • @Macheako
      @Macheako Месяц назад

      I mean. It’s a sensitive topic. These are people’s jobs. And us crackers have every single right to be “upset” if they’re artificially giving them to minorities for some perceived virtue on the corporations name.
      If you want civility, go see a play 😂❤

  • @ritwikism
    @ritwikism Месяц назад

    What a great video, one of your most insightful since it was not data or information but a smart observation

  • @Puerile.
    @Puerile. Месяц назад +1

    (11:36 onwards) Corporate politics is a big reason why I'd hate to be in a management position or above - it becomes less about your skill and passion on the craft, but your skill on pleasing others, be it your bosses or clients.

  • @mrinaldhami5478
    @mrinaldhami5478 18 дней назад +1

    You are absolutely correct about Indian CEOs being more like businessman politicians.
    It has more to do with how our education system has been developed to make us very efficient workers rather than being risk taking entrepreneurs.

  • @ydcjydcj1724
    @ydcjydcj1724 Месяц назад

    Shaprabhat to you Hari! Danyavat for making this video.

  • @K1Kamikaze
    @K1Kamikaze Месяц назад +5

    American Indians usually means native Americans, not Indian Americans. Very confusing phrasing

  • @momodoescow7582
    @momodoescow7582 Месяц назад +49

    Nonetheless, for all the young Indians in the West like myself pursuing Engineering, these guys are massive inspirations. They truly show us that despite being immigrants or of a different race, we can succeed & excel like anyone else! Hoping I can emulate the success of Sundar & Satya in the future. Jai Hind lads

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +8

      Good luck man :)

    • @arturogonzalez6232
      @arturogonzalez6232 Месяц назад +6

      They did it off the backs of the “backwards cast” it is classism at its finest. All of these CEO’s come from the Brahmin Caste in India. They are basically the ruling class from india. They don’t do manual labor and are forbidden from mingling woth others of lower caste.

    • @BigBoyJay_69
      @BigBoyJay_69 Месяц назад

      Yes. Being a heartless, corporate scumbag isn't just for Westerners!

    • @RahulSharma-jm9ir
      @RahulSharma-jm9ir Месяц назад +1

      @@arturogonzalez6232 lol lol

    • @KRYMauL
      @KRYMauL Месяц назад

      Most people in Engineering are Asian now, it's kind of a joke.

  • @Liriq
    @Liriq Месяц назад +2

    I worked at a big-ish company. Founded and built-up by engineers. The business was booming and the employees loved the operation.
    A hotshot MBA came in. Everyone hates it now.

    • @quakethedoombringer
      @quakethedoombringer Месяц назад

      Did you work at Boeing ?

    • @Liriq
      @Liriq Месяц назад

      @@quakethedoombringer No. Boeing is BIG.

  • @Sirius_2780
    @Sirius_2780 Месяц назад

    bro, you're really good at explaining!

  • @demitrishernandez6753
    @demitrishernandez6753 Месяц назад +2

    When watching the politician question the Google CEO it really leaves me flabbergasted how technologically ignorant politicians truly are 😂 😅 🤦‍♂️

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh6834 Месяц назад

    Great video as always

  • @niamhleeson3522
    @niamhleeson3522 Месяц назад +5

    Why wouldn't you sell all of your stock as soon as you could if it was any amount more than $50 million? Money only improves your quality of life up to a certain point. There's absolutely no practical reason to take chances to get 10x $750 million when you can just have $750 million. It's just high score chasing at that point.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +1

      Eh, if you’re the CEO of a Fortune 500 company, money probably lost it’s practically decades ago for you.

    • @gopherlee9427
      @gopherlee9427 Месяц назад

      ​@@LogicallyAnswered*practicality. And I agree with you.

  • @hitmusicworldwide
    @hitmusicworldwide Месяц назад +2

    10 years to 15 years ago. I was telling everybody you should outsource our CEOs as the American CEOs were getting paid too much money to do two little work and it looks like somebody heard me😂

  • @brendanwiley253
    @brendanwiley253 Месяц назад +16

    For real though my assumption is just that there are a billion Indians and over the years the smart/wealthy/able to become wealthy ones moved to the US and the average/below average ones didn't

    • @brendanwiley253
      @brendanwiley253 Месяц назад +6

      As for why we don't see the same with the Chinese, communism doesn't mix well with talent

    • @jj55222
      @jj55222 Месяц назад +2

      How though? The average Asian, that come to America make more than the even Caucasian Americans. Most immigrants from the eastern hemisphere that come to America do great.

    • @aghhhog2655
      @aghhhog2655 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@brendanwiley253the Chinese immigrants got huge incentives to move back to china and start their own businesses*

    • @anonymousperson9735
      @anonymousperson9735 Месяц назад +2

      They also bring their caste system with them. Which isn't something that's widely talked about or know.

    • @t-.-t.
      @t-.-t. Месяц назад

      You're absolutely right. Only the best kids from India get to go to the US. Getting a US student or work visa is next to impossible unless you're smart af. It's a given that if you're good at studies you move to the US or UK. India is full of mediocrity or below average kids. This is why there is no innovation coming from India

  • @ShubhamKumar-eq4un
    @ShubhamKumar-eq4un Месяц назад +14

    JAI HIND Lol I have to say it never the less 😂

  • @rememberitsallagame
    @rememberitsallagame Месяц назад +12

    Reporting from the UK - we have Rishi Sunak in charge - famously bad at politics 😉

    • @eventhorizon1
      @eventhorizon1 Месяц назад +6

      Rishi sunak is British! His family moved 100 years ago. So no longer Indian.

  • @DK-ox7ze
    @DK-ox7ze Месяц назад +1

    As an Indian, I hate to say this but he's right.

  • @waichui2988
    @waichui2988 Месяц назад +3

    The US had seen this before. Entrepreneur started the great companies and took them to great heights. Professional managers took over.
    Used to be WASPS, now Indians. Its the same story.

    • @onetwokaafour
      @onetwokaafour Месяц назад +1

      What is WASPS?

    • @zetaforever4953
      @zetaforever4953 Месяц назад +1

      @@onetwokaafour White anglo-saxon protestants. The dominant ethnic group in the US.

    • @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559
      @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559 Месяц назад

      Disagree WASPs are the founding population of the US. There’s no US without them, they didn’t take over from someone else, they created their own society.

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet Месяц назад +13

    Indian CEO is a good thing only if your business is already at $100 billion.
    Otherwise you should just continue with the founders as CEOs. 😂😂

    • @bunty396
      @bunty396 Месяц назад +3

      True 💯

    • @abhijitpawar7149
      @abhijitpawar7149 Месяц назад +1

      Would generalize that to a MBA CEO vs Founder CEO

    • @tbraghavendran
      @tbraghavendran Месяц назад

      Stop being pseudo. Become original.

  • @matts2488
    @matts2488 Месяц назад

    This is about risk mitigation. Indian ceo is less risk for investors. Innovation takes risk taking, however, so there you have it.

  • @FcousFellow
    @FcousFellow Месяц назад +3

    How are you so consistent daily with top notch editing and research?

  • @profdc9501
    @profdc9501 Месяц назад +2

    A CEO's job today is largely ceremonial. They are there to be the face of the company and take the fall when the inevitable downturn occurs. For this, they are paid handsomely. They're not supposed to have ideas, make waves, or be leaders. They are the conformist face or a conformist organizational hierarchy, intended to assure investors that the company, like any other public company in any industry, is only an engine that maximizes shareholder value.

  • @axellaumorales
    @axellaumorales 20 дней назад

    Very interesting perspective!

  • @justsomedeadguy439
    @justsomedeadguy439 Месяц назад +1

    Wait. Did they change the og title or something?

  • @amoughgoyal4986
    @amoughgoyal4986 Месяц назад +1

    As a Indian student pursuing MBA, I have to say I am deeply offended😫😫

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet Месяц назад +2

    Don't worry this new breed of Indian CEOs, this time in AI game are all founders.

  • @hellslayer9638
    @hellslayer9638 Месяц назад +1

    Its actually the opposite for big companies , big companies have all the resources and brilliant people who can come up with ideas apple vision pro was an idea , you have factories manufacturers programmers and money and retail solutions to get products into people's hands and correct price what more can a business ever want

  • @gamingonpotatolaptops1665
    @gamingonpotatolaptops1665 Месяц назад +1

    Microsoft is the one that really saw potential in small companies that were succeeding like GitHub LinkedIn Azure cloud computing etc

  • @mrtienphysics666
    @mrtienphysics666 Месяц назад

    This is a very good analysis!
    I think they will all eventually become IBMs.

  • @bananabrainz
    @bananabrainz Месяц назад

    big companies recognise that size and innovation dont mix well. size breeed comfort. thats why theyd rather buy startups, it's just better.

  • @DevKulkarni
    @DevKulkarni Месяц назад +1

    Well if you import Indians you will import a bit of Indian Bureaucracy. Also if your benchmark is Tim Cook, he's a brilliant risk taker. If they are the same Kudos to the Indian CEOs.

  • @goku-ki2to
    @goku-ki2to Месяц назад +1

    In india taking risk is a bad thing parent dont want their kids to take risk and so kids eventually afraid of taking risk . so you can see this in Indian ceo's

  • @amirmoradi9595
    @amirmoradi9595 Месяц назад +1

    Why is Silo not available for Android? 😢

  • @viorelholhos
    @viorelholhos Месяц назад

    That yes sir, we can do it goes a long way

  • @Andrew-xx3wo
    @Andrew-xx3wo Месяц назад +1

    So now the video title has been changed to "Vanilla CEOs..." vs "Indian CEOs..." ? lol

  • @prithviraj1080
    @prithviraj1080 Месяц назад

    A crisp and well made video. Google has started to charge for everything since Sundar took over. You hit the nail on the head when you said they mastered politics. Yes, they did.

  • @marioalexanderski9598
    @marioalexanderski9598 Месяц назад +4

    You should do a video of companies during the Third Reich Era of Germany

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy4010 Месяц назад

    Wait, that wasn't the original title 🤔

  • @ghl19
    @ghl19 Месяц назад +1

    What I like about you is that you are completely unbiased as you are Indian yourself. And you still do constructive criticism. Respect

  • @pintuwang
    @pintuwang Месяц назад

    Good analysis

  • @davidcu629
    @davidcu629 Месяц назад

    I agree with the idea that each CEO has their own innovative approach, especially when it comes to Satya. Having read his book, I must say that he made some of the best decisions regarding AI and cloud computing. On the other hand, Kubernetes was open-sourced a year before Sundar took charge, and let's not forget that they also let Transformers pass, one of the main technologies of this era. In my opinion, Google needs to go back to its roots of futuristic, crazy ideas, open-source innovation, and mastering AI research

  • @roziroti1998
    @roziroti1998 Месяц назад

    The incumbent dont change unless they are forced by the competition to do so

  • @oldie.no.79
    @oldie.no.79 Месяц назад

    Why did you change the title Hari?

  • @bendybruce
    @bendybruce Месяц назад +1

    I do need to correct your phrasing here. American Indians refers to the indigenous Indian population prior to British colonialization.

  • @abhijitpawar7149
    @abhijitpawar7149 Месяц назад

    Hari, you have got a valid point of discussion. Only bone to pick up for me in your argument is that it is true of ALL MBA type, non-founder CEOs. You are unfairly singling out Indians.
    You should have instead compared Indian Engineer-MBA CEOs with other non-founder, Engineer-MBA CEOs and then may be go where the results of that comparison take you.

  • @Zuranthus
    @Zuranthus Месяц назад +1

    when bean counters run companies

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 Месяц назад

    Being a Vanilla CEO has its Pros and Cons. They're more willing to thing of company's financial interests, but they rarely put much focus into developing innovation products.

  • @s3rverlord
    @s3rverlord Месяц назад +2

    I'll agree with you on all the rest of the CEOs except Satya. Satya was not given a choice actually, he was asked to be the CEO make the cloud business a success or he was out. So out of the 3 choices he had the only one he could pick was to become the CEO and make Azure a success. I'm not saying that he is a visionary but I'm saying that he's not been given the freedom to be one. Sundar was a visionary if you look at the products he built but even though he is given much freedom compared to Satya he is showing little promise. I consider most non-founder CEOs Vanilla and it has nothing to do with India.
    The past few videos are making me go through an existential crisis. The previous video on Product Managers and this one on Indians and I'm an Indian Product Manager lol 😂.

    • @evancombs5159
      @evancombs5159 Месяц назад

      This is very true, most non-founder CEOs are just normal businessmen who went to school to be businessmen. They are businessmen first, and usually nothing more. Their game is money and politics. This is opposed to founders who tend to be engineers, creators, etc. first and businessmen second, more out of necessity than a desire to be one. This means these people tend to be more principled, and less likely to compromise. Businessmen tend to not care unless it affects the bottom line.

  • @groove9tube
    @groove9tube Месяц назад

    I worked with an Indian scientist. When Nadella was appointed he said he was a really good guy. Should have bought MSFT right then. Pinchai is a huge disappointment.

  • @menhguin
    @menhguin Месяц назад +14

    is it racist to call this video by an Indian dude racist, or ...

    • @manhoosnick
      @manhoosnick Месяц назад

      No, it's just dumb to call it racist

  • @IlyasSahnoun
    @IlyasSahnoun Месяц назад

    got a bit concerned when i first saw the title 😅

  • @hifistuded
    @hifistuded Месяц назад

    True there is no out of box thinking just sticking to codes, politics and bookworms.....plus not having same background of studies.

  • @tamanousJP
    @tamanousJP Месяц назад +1

    Makes me want to exit my Google position and re-enter Meta

    • @ignacioperezz
      @ignacioperezz Месяц назад

      Lmfao right?! Exactly why gemini flopping 😂

  • @Uneducatedopinion57
    @Uneducatedopinion57 Месяц назад +1

    These same RUclipsrs were critical of Zuckerberg when the shares of meta were crashing due to metaverse, now they are calling him a visionary
    Can’t take this seriously

  • @ouranosTheos
    @ouranosTheos Месяц назад

    Tbh all these companies are actively experimenting with new tech like quantum computers or AI research like transformer from Google. We don't really see it from the outside, but they're constantly innovating. They're more careful about pushing a fully polished product to the market.

  • @solomonlam3157
    @solomonlam3157 Месяц назад

    11:43 Baffling that you used Iger as an example rather than Eisner or Walt

  • @Bstiler100
    @Bstiler100 Месяц назад

    Line from "The Human Sovereign":
    "The Han promotes the Hu and the Han. But the Hu promotes the Hu and only the Hu."

  • @dougchampion8084
    @dougchampion8084 Месяц назад

    I was with you till Iger. Iger is vanilla. He does not create, he buys other companies he thinks will increase shareholder value. The difference between Eisner and Iger is night and day. Eisner had vision. Iger has none. You should do a breakdown on the two of them, it’s stark.

  • @9doggie12
    @9doggie12 Месяц назад +1

    Now do it for female ceos

    • @SA-zq7fz
      @SA-zq7fz Месяц назад

      Marissa Myers

  • @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559
    @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559 Месяц назад +12

    I keep seeing people point to all these Indian CEOs and say “immigration is a source of innovation.” I don’t see evidence of that…

    • @BlackRhetoric
      @BlackRhetoric Месяц назад +1

      Not Indian immigration

    • @kowboy702
      @kowboy702 Месяц назад

      You’re blind. Many of these companies are founded by immigrants and the workhorses of the companies are immigrants

    • @okman9684
      @okman9684 Месяц назад +1

      Depends. There are many examples
      -If you like Bose speakers then that company was founded by an Indian,
      -Framework laptop's founder and CEO is indian and that company is really innovating in laptop space
      -if you are trading using Robinhood then it was founded by indian
      -clubhouse was co-founded by an indian
      -another innovative company Bloom energy that focuses on energy storage using solid oxide fuel cell is founded by an Indian
      - also an innovative company called SkyCool technology is founded by an Indian and they are really passionate and innovative. The founder himself created the technology during his university days taking inspection from ancient technology.
      So you see there are plenty of good and innovative Indian tech founders and CEOs but people just go for the big fish and complain why all fish are the same. It's just perception bias to find problems in a very unexpected development that breaks past the status quo which you were comfortable with.
      But I'm all for ripping all the tech founders and CEOs because even innovative CEOs are no less ruthless and shallow. Elon and Zukerberg are some of the worst CEOs if you are an employee. They will fire anyone to save money for their weird projects like metaverse Or buying twitter.
      While CEOs like Bill gates and Steve Jobs were the most anti competition sharks. Steve Jobs declared a thermonuclear war against Android which only ended after is death while microsoft was the embodiment of what an anti-competition looked like. Doing business during their prime time as a competitor was just a nightmare. You will always lose no matter how innovative you are if these giant monopolies are in heat during that moment and they will crush you by any means even if the industry loses a big innovative company.
      We just need moderation I'm both sides. Not too crazy or not too shareholder oriented

    • @anonymousperson9735
      @anonymousperson9735 Месяц назад +1

      Just one of the reasons why I'm against legal and illegal immigration.

    • @daakuredpanda5782
      @daakuredpanda5782 Месяц назад +2

      I am an Indian and would prefer that Indians stay in India and prevent our brain drain. I myself have refused a foreign placement in the UK. BUt do you see how much direct Indian employees work in US comanies? A lot more work is outsourced to India as well. I have experience with best western colleges and most of the students there cannot keep up with the IIT students. Do you think you have enough people educated and trained enough to do these jobs?

  • @RavarsenBlogspot
    @RavarsenBlogspot Месяц назад

    As a founder, I despise corporate bureaucrats, that if how great companies fall to ruin

  • @curious_one1156
    @curious_one1156 Месяц назад +1

    Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva.
    Companies are started by Visionary Brahma, they are managed by knowledgeable but lacking vision Vishnu.
    But, due to stagnation, they must be renewed by Shiva.
    Who will the Shiva of Google and Microsoft be ?

    • @erabhikdasgupta
      @erabhikdasgupta Месяц назад

      Its always the people. AT&T, IBM, Nokia, Xerox all had the same fate

  • @Wiintb
    @Wiintb 28 дней назад

    Satya is not Vanilla. He tried something with cloud.
    The worse is Tim Cook

  • @ItzSneakyMinecraft
    @ItzSneakyMinecraft Месяц назад +1

    i’ve been dethroned

  • @lelouch9609
    @lelouch9609 Месяц назад +3

    1:33 🤣 JAI HIND

  • @Bharathsimhareddyellanki
    @Bharathsimhareddyellanki Месяц назад

    The problem is not indians Its the investors who wants MBA specialists(Indians) as CEO's

  • @EditorHeart
    @EditorHeart Месяц назад +1

    *Anyone Can Be A Ceo No Matter Where They Come From*

  • @RealLaone
    @RealLaone Месяц назад

    But you can tell how focused they are. Even on RUclips if you're looking for any tutorial or have a problem looking for a fix, there's always an Indian out there with the solution. It's been crazy to see how big MKBHD is and how MrWhoseTheBoss put in the work and grew over the years to be up there with him. Even Logically Answered, the demographic is a dedicated one gotta admit.

  • @karendarrenmclaren
    @karendarrenmclaren Месяц назад

    You don't need innovations. What you actually need is monopoly

  • @fqras
    @fqras Месяц назад

    Let's say it's just a trend for now. Lets see if it will last.

  • @toshitsingh7270
    @toshitsingh7270 Месяц назад +6

    I believe meta's AI will be bigger than anyone can imagine

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Месяц назад +3

      I guess we’ll see

    • @SL4RK
      @SL4RK Месяц назад

      I'm waiting for them to find a new thing to inflate as well.....

  • @artbanks27
    @artbanks27 6 дней назад

    Stock holders are the one in charge and some token indian to fill a space is the best bet for them.

  • @somark28
    @somark28 Месяц назад +2

    okay, HARI, this title sure is something 🗿🗿🗿🗿