Everyone Is Laid Off - What Now?

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  • Опубликовано: 2 фев 2025

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  • @username7763
    @username7763 11 месяцев назад +1974

    I've been laid off once in my career and I still have nightmares about it. But it taught me an important lesson. When your CEO stands up and tells everyone to work harder, be more efficient, make more money.... ignore it. Yes, work hard and do a good job. Take pride in what you do. But layoffs are beyond your control. We were doing well and had a good team but that wasn't factored into the decision at all. If you fail, your company might have layoffs. If you succeed, your company might have layoffs. If your CEO decides to buy another company, you might have layoffs. They goad you into free overtime saying it is important and then cut your job when you get it done.

    • @HPkobold
      @HPkobold 11 месяцев назад +40

      Sounds like a video from a “how money works”

    • @Felale
      @Felale 11 месяцев назад +80

      So drag out that project while your team is needed. Less efficiency is better.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 11 месяцев назад +116

      @@Felale not even joking. Less efficiency is perfect. Constantly update your resume. Make a copy of literally everything you do into your portfolio. You should make a notable impression during an interview of having done so many projects and achieving goals and deadlines. Obv hide private information.

    • @Sparticulous
      @Sparticulous 11 месяцев назад +21

      @@Felalethe japanese have learned this best

    • @hopeseekr
      @hopeseekr 11 месяцев назад +43

      Just once?! Boy! Try being the highest paid developer at any medium sized corp! You'll be the first to be let go every time!!!

  • @boblangill6209
    @boblangill6209 11 месяцев назад +1518

    I recall a quote from several decades back "General Motors got in trouble when they started thinking that their shareholders were their real customers"

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY 11 месяцев назад +5

      🤔

    • @jeffreysnyder290
      @jeffreysnyder290 11 месяцев назад +112

      That’s American capitalism in a nutshell. The competition isn’t for customers. The competition is for capital.

    • @IFRYRCE
      @IFRYRCE 11 месяцев назад +9

      Mary Barra is doing it again.

    • @vulpixelful
      @vulpixelful 10 месяцев назад +31

      Yes, they discontinued a model that people actually liked, replaced it with an "affordable" one then yanked that affordable trim away, and cut corners with the tech in the models they kept. Makes no sense until you remember they are a publicly traded company

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare 9 месяцев назад +9

      If companies think their real customers are their shareholders, customers should become shareholders too.

  • @JacobSReeds
    @JacobSReeds 11 месяцев назад +982

    "Gen Z is entering the work force watching mass layoffs and it will impact them forever."
    Same here, as an older millennial, I came into the work force in 2008 after college. If I can offer one tip it would be this: choose a direction and keep going no matter the context. Whether it's software engineering, accounting, medical, whatever. When the dust of the issues clears, you'll be ready to grab the opportunities that arise.

    • @HPkobold
      @HPkobold 11 месяцев назад +38

      Yeah I’ve seen a same comment where one guy wanted to go to social classes but they provided little to no benefits everyone went to some tech or programming stuff for the huge benefits, then he goes on how it was good for him because he stuck to what he wanted to do instead of conforming to the expectations, while his peers suffered, then he goes on how he loves his job and stuff.
      So the guy words above me checks out

    • @Fourtune1
      @Fourtune1 11 месяцев назад +19

      There’s so many graduates each year and they have to compete with non American students also.

    • @spidalack
      @spidalack 11 месяцев назад +7

      as a genx, all I can say is welcome to the club

    • @pedromarques9267
      @pedromarques9267 11 месяцев назад +25

      As a Genz I am on my 2nd lay off in less than 3 years. Life is great 🌞

    • @somethingdrasticproduction7533
      @somethingdrasticproduction7533 11 месяцев назад +31

      Similar era here as well, I would add: screw loyalty. Job hop if you have a better option, do it again if that doesn't work out after a couple years. Loyalty to one company has not been rewarded in a long time - in fact some folks from FAANG were specifically laid off because they were with the company so long that they became very expensive.

  • @Hrzybs
    @Hrzybs 11 месяцев назад +2128

    They lay off these people because they can rehire them later for much less money when they become desperate for a job.

    • @simplicityd8703
      @simplicityd8703 11 месяцев назад +116

      I have some doubts about that maybe its just getting rid of bloat that they can't handle anymore

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 месяцев назад +243

      Quite a vicious cycle

    • @alimfuzzy
      @alimfuzzy 11 месяцев назад +158

      Kind of. They like to fire permanent employees only to rehire on contract. Usually at higher rates but at a lot less benefits and worker protections.

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku 11 месяцев назад +82

      It's all about seniority, accumulated benefits that they would rather have for themselves than to pay their workers.
      Hire everyone on short contracts, no need to pay out of pocket for benefits!

    • @toddfraser3353
      @toddfraser3353 11 месяцев назад +18

      The more expected aspect would their competitors will hire them, and they would have knowledge of much of the internal IP. Even if they don't divulge company secrets. But just know not to try something they knew that failed. Would save other company the expense of making that mistake.

  • @robkennedy5906
    @robkennedy5906 9 месяцев назад +87

    I worked at Klarna, Klarna hired me from my good job in a different continent. The company moved me to Stockholm Sweden and laid me off after 3 months.

    • @missmia196
      @missmia196 9 месяцев назад +14

      I'm so sorry, that's fucked

    • @Astrothunder_
      @Astrothunder_ 8 месяцев назад +1

      Damn that is so shitty.

    • @zippyparakeet1074
      @zippyparakeet1074 8 месяцев назад +8

      Thank you for naming and shaming, a lot of people don't. I'll keep that name in mind, so sorry that you had to go through this🙏

  • @moomie1634
    @moomie1634 11 месяцев назад +568

    This is one one the greatest problems with companies. We don't have leaders who have the spine or brain to stand up to investors and say "This is what's happening, this is how it's happening, if you don't like it get off the ship" Huang and Su have both been great CEO's because they put the business and product first, not the investor's short term feelings. You can't run a long term business on pure short term results.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 месяцев назад +60

      Completely agree. Jensen Huang is awesome!

    • @AnDOnlineify
      @AnDOnlineify 11 месяцев назад +50

      I think most of them are perfectly happy with the golden parachute that they get. Also, I think the few times a ceo has tried that, the investors took them to court and won. It's actually crazy how far investors are willing to go if you look through history.

    • @harikrishnanchandramohan4209
      @harikrishnanchandramohan4209 11 месяцев назад +78

      The problem is, the investors won't get out of ship but rather throw the CEO out of the ship. Does Steve Jobs ring a bell.

    • @moomie1634
      @moomie1634 11 месяцев назад

      @@harikrishnanchandramohan4209 When steve got kicked out of apple, he quite literally said he deserved it, and that it was the best thing for him. Most stock structures nowadays give founders complete control of the company, as they give themselves 51+% of voting shares. I do agree, however, that investors are so close minded that they can't see that they might be killing their company for short term performance. As peter lynch put it, “In the short run, the market is a voting machine. In the long run, it is a weighing machine.”

    • @Maelstromme
      @Maelstromme 11 месяцев назад

      @@AnDOnlineifyLaw needs to change.

  • @mr.gamewatch7547
    @mr.gamewatch7547 11 месяцев назад +251

    This is more of a reason to never be loyal to companies.

  • @greghelton4668
    @greghelton4668 11 месяцев назад +721

    None of those companies were financially stressed. Not one. Greed is the only reason behind these massive layoffs.

    • @guruprabhu_39915
      @guruprabhu_39915 11 месяцев назад +49

      That’s capitalism for you at peak

    • @yehaa00
      @yehaa00 11 месяцев назад +12

      Valuation is not equal to liquid cash lol

    • @chrisanderson7820
      @chrisanderson7820 11 месяцев назад +58

      @@yehaa00Lol, these companies have eye-watering levels of liquid reserves. Apple alone has somewhere in the order of $160 billion sitting in their bank accounts doing nothing.

    • @rishabhanand4973
      @rishabhanand4973 11 месяцев назад +35

      none of them were stressed. the issue is, once you've gotten enough market share, you can't really make more money by adding more customers as there might not be customers to add. So if you not only need to keep growing but increase the rate at which you grow, only way to do that is cut costs by firing employees

    • @greghelton4668
      @greghelton4668 11 месяцев назад

      @@rishabhanand4973 or so they want you to believe. Silicon Valley business culture is full of greed.

  • @ChungusTheLarge
    @ChungusTheLarge 11 месяцев назад +113

    Vanilla CEOs are the type of people to think they're playing 4d chess, while holding a deck of go-fish cards

    • @orboakin8074
      @orboakin8074 8 месяцев назад

      I wish I understood gambling to get this reference.

    • @dragonbane44
      @dragonbane44 8 месяцев назад +1

      These CEOs perfrctly know what they are doing. Dont be fooled.

  • @Trials_By_Errors
    @Trials_By_Errors 11 месяцев назад +381

    Robots may Replace you. But Androids don't buy Android phones😂😂😂. They buy nothing.

    • @laalinib1761
      @laalinib1761 11 месяцев назад +72

      True. And also robots don’t pay income taxes to governments

    • @kencolac2860
      @kencolac2860 11 месяцев назад +10

      True. But it doesn't happen over night. It is a slow process of wealth and value redistribution. Or maybe not so slow. It won't replace you, for now.

    • @kristofnagy1373
      @kristofnagy1373 11 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@kencolac2860Sure, but a +50% productivity boost means that you can lay off 1/3 of the workforce

    • @AtheistfanGuava
      @AtheistfanGuava 11 месяцев назад +17

      ​@@kristofnagy1373if 1/3 of workforce is laid off in many companies, What do you think will the political class do, when there is high unemployed civil unrest ?

    • @dblair1258
      @dblair1258 11 месяцев назад

      Not yet...

  • @RogerDodger-fv6yr
    @RogerDodger-fv6yr 11 месяцев назад +47

    Genius was definitely way too strong of a word here. CEOs are just the face of all work done by the many people under them.

  • @PapiJack
    @PapiJack 11 месяцев назад +80

    I never understood why these companies lay off engineers when they can cut bonuses for high executives instead.

    • @anon3118
      @anon3118 9 месяцев назад +22

      Because the executives are the ones making the decisions. Most believe they deserve the bonus over others

    • @spectre3492
      @spectre3492 9 месяцев назад +6

      Narcissism, greed

    • @margaretzhang1107
      @margaretzhang1107 9 месяцев назад

      Probably because They are the one making decisions , they are not going to lay themself off.

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 9 месяцев назад

      Its an issue of scale. A 1 million dollar bonus spread out across 10 000 workers is about 100$ each. The bonus of the CEO really just isn't significant at this scale.

    • @spectre3492
      @spectre3492 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@Erowens98 doesn't matter. if your company is laying off workers no executive should be getting bonuses. doesn't matter if it equats to "only" $100 for each worker. its disgusting

  • @Vednier
    @Vednier 11 месяцев назад +170

    "Intel CEO is salesman" - oh, NOW i undertsand why you have to completely replace motherboard for each new CPU.

    • @insederec
      @insederec 11 месяцев назад +11

      Any built in, integrated solution is a solution for their pockets, not yours.

    • @JonasBergling
      @JonasBergling 11 месяцев назад +17

      When they realized they were starting to get in trouble they finally put an engineer in charge again, the current CEO Pat Gelsinger has a master's degree in electrical engineering and computer science from Stanford, and was the lead architect for the 80486 CPU and later CTO for a while. I'm guessing when he left Intel (in 2009?) it was because he was fed up with the direction they were taking under the salesman CEO.

    • @TheFinalIllusion
      @TheFinalIllusion 9 месяцев назад

      Dated take

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 9 месяцев назад

      Jensen is coming to save us all

  • @eskutts
    @eskutts 11 месяцев назад +213

    Corporates try to please their investors by doing a layoff which in turn demotivates the remaining employees and creates huge anxiety among them and their dependents. This creates a negative outlook for the entire economy causing recession. Corporate greed for short term gains has been one of the reasons why some companies fail despite having good potential for growth. Hence it's high time corporates actually started fearing greed and instead focused on building good quality products and services which will eventually give long lasting success. Period.

    • @codelinx
      @codelinx 11 месяцев назад +5

      This is a major issue... And this is a huge fact that some people bypass or glaze over

    • @tgdm
      @tgdm 11 месяцев назад +16

      This is why I like Costco's former president. His attitude towards investors was "I make you money. If I don't make enough money quickly enough for you, then you can either cash out your shares, or you can suck my balls and let me do my job. My job just so happens to involve making you money."

    • @onewizzard
      @onewizzard 11 месяцев назад

      Humans are too greedy. Can't wait for that meteorite

    • @kinesissado9636
      @kinesissado9636 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don’t quite understand what you mean by negative outlook. The economy as a whole is dictated by the larger players (for example the shareholders). For example in the US due to financialization, the biggest part of our GDP is tied up in financial sector speculation. Things like layoffs although hurts the average worker, is actually beneficial for a shareholder. For instance layoffs can signal to shareholders that a company is cutting excess parts of their practices that are not necessary. This means a company has excess revenue onboard that they can use for stock buy backs (which will make the existing shares appreciate in value). In other cases (where a company is laying off workers because they’re failing), it can act as either a signal to investors that a company is pivoting (which could be promising) or can be a way of delaying the crashing of a company allowing certain shareholders to cash out before that happens. So in general, especially fiduciary-wise, lay offs are only ever good (just based on how our economic system is set up). Now should it be like this? No, however that would involve making changes to how the economy should run. Basically our economy is not set up for companies to make decisions that prioritize the longterm

    • @eskutts
      @eskutts 11 месяцев назад +2

      Kinda agree with your points but the corporates and their investors desperate measures for quick short term profits puts immense pressure on companies and their employees which distracts their focus from building good quality products and services and instead they end up making low quality products and services, this causes the demand to fall and thereby not earn any income and revenue. Right now some companies and especially startups only focus on showing a profitable balance sheet, that's not ideally how any business should run in the long run. Wework collapse is the simplest example of this. Hence Investors must give ample time for a company to grow in a stable and healthy manner.

  • @brianisbrined9255
    @brianisbrined9255 11 месяцев назад +115

    I've been part of 4 layoffs. I just see jobs as temporary. I never expect them to last more than a couple of years.

    • @g3user1usa
      @g3user1usa 11 месяцев назад +1

      Do you consider your skills as being good? Or are you in a naturally high turnover type of job?

    • @brianisbrined9255
      @brianisbrined9255 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@g3user1usa I've had a variety of jobs. I do consider my skills good, and I've seen less turnover since I got into tech.

  • @pareshsaini255
    @pareshsaini255 11 месяцев назад +74

    Layoff is management failure Not employees failure But unfortunately employees are Layoff 😢😢

    • @drrodopszin
      @drrodopszin 11 месяцев назад +8

      Exactly! With the right laws these companies would reconsider. But with Republicans about to win that is less likely to happen. Democrats are also boring centrists when it comes to worker rights. We trusted companies when hiring was easy and layoffs were the sign of doing things wrong. We have to unionize.

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 11 месяцев назад +123

    People aren’t hiring either!! These employers aren’t making the most sense!! Hoping everyone has some source of income.

    • @paulwhite8879
      @paulwhite8879 9 месяцев назад +2

      boycott these companies, bro

  • @LeonidasRaghav
    @LeonidasRaghav 11 месяцев назад +126

    If these CEOs are so braindead they're ironically quite ripe for automation. I don't think it's that difficult to put together some LLMs that can read company reports and news for the day, then output decisions to be made with the sole objective of pleasing shareholders. In fact you might not even need AI at all.

    • @dashmeetsingh9679
      @dashmeetsingh9679 11 месяцев назад +14

      There is a very old spoof in my country, where they hire “Parrot” instead of CEO.

    • @basecamp.santoshwhowrites
      @basecamp.santoshwhowrites 10 месяцев назад

      And that actually will be the last positions where there will be humans, even with tech assistant to do the job, for sure

    • @MeepChangeling
      @MeepChangeling 9 месяцев назад

      This system allready exists. It was created in 2015 and is already in place at many companies. Not to replace CEOs, but to replace middle managers who crunch the numbers from daily reports and direct low level employees. It would be thereoticaly possible to retool one to work for the whole company and dispatch orders to other AIs, who in turn command employees, creating a company with entirely digital management. It would be interesting to see how that would work out.

    • @dashmeetsingh9679
      @dashmeetsingh9679 9 месяцев назад

      @@MeepChangeling For this, requirement has to be clear. That will never happen, not because of tech.
      But because of user expectation. AI is not a magic wand.

    • @mr.boomguy
      @mr.boomguy 8 месяцев назад

      I think I've heard a company making a Chat GPT their CEO and saw good growth because of that

  • @user-nu8in3ey8c
    @user-nu8in3ey8c 11 месяцев назад +118

    This is why companies should use dividends to compensate shareholders, instead of share price. Placing importance upon dividends provides an incentive to maintain long term profitability. Unfortunately the tax system punishes a dividend based compensation scheme harder than capital gains.

    • @robertbeisert3315
      @robertbeisert3315 11 месяцев назад +9

      You also can't take out low-interest loans to distribute dividends effectively.

    • @metaltyphoon
      @metaltyphoon 9 месяцев назад

      @@robertbeisert3315which is a good thing. Why should anyone be able to take a loan against a unrealized stocks?

  • @pankaj3746
    @pankaj3746 11 месяцев назад +36

    I have 10 years experience and I feel that it's totally worthless to be in a corporate, and fighting for pennies with your colleagues and those small promotions! The juice isn't worth the squeeze! I am working on my product idea and it's almost done deal! Hope everything goes well so that I can pack my bags and leave the corporate world forever as an employee!

    • @animeanime6609
      @animeanime6609 11 месяцев назад +5

      Sending you wishes man , hope things go well 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @pankaj3746
      @pankaj3746 11 месяцев назад

      @Sick_Pencil No need actually! Talk to people more! Try to grasp ideas from the surrounding, follow RUclipsrs! Many of them give great advice! Listen to podcasts of famous businessman!

    • @animeanime6609
      @animeanime6609 11 месяцев назад

      @Sick_Pencil good question man

    • @turolretar
      @turolretar 9 месяцев назад

      What are you building?

  • @asdasddas100
    @asdasddas100 11 месяцев назад +86

    A world where Google and MS are like GE and Cisco seems insane

    • @robertbeisert3315
      @robertbeisert3315 11 месяцев назад +6

      The tech monopolies have benefited from government backing since their inception. It's why they got such great loans and venture capital out of the various money printing operations.

    • @vulpixelful
      @vulpixelful 10 месяцев назад +3

      Microsoft is getting there fast

  • @pratronald
    @pratronald 11 месяцев назад +97

    Apple and Nvidia can never hire employees left and right like Google and Amazon for 2 reasons:
    1. Google and Amazon are data(& software) companies and they need to to constantly build products to meets market demands. Apple and Nvidia are into very specific products lines.
    2. There aren't as many People who go into hardware(and system software) as they go into (high-level)software. So Apple and Nvidia can only hire whats available but Google and Amazon can go on hiring and there will still be software engineers left in the market.

    • @drogonfly2659
      @drogonfly2659 11 месяцев назад +11

      Agreed ! Find me a hardware engineer designing GPUs with 15 years of experience in some domain. There will be few.

    • @Leo-pd8ww
      @Leo-pd8ww 11 месяцев назад

      VHDL, Verilog, and low-level programming win yet again.

    • @dashmeetsingh9679
      @dashmeetsingh9679 11 месяцев назад +3

      Apple is hardware and software company. Their mobiles, tabs, smart watch, desktops all have operating systems. Then there are supporting apps and streaming service. It can hitlre if they want to.
      Nvidia : apart from low level language has also started offering libraries for high level programmers. Thats why the boom in GPU usage, though there high level software is very limited.

  • @millax-ev6yz
    @millax-ev6yz 11 месяцев назад +39

    I'm an older worker and I'm just not spending money waiting for the day I get the ax. I'm spending only on what I need to survive. I'm super conservative with money because I'm so fearful of how I will survive come the inevitable layoff.

    • @drrodopszin
      @drrodopszin 11 месяцев назад +2

      It's time for political change for the better of working rights. It's a topic I haven't heard from a politician for a long time.

    • @millax-ev6yz
      @millax-ev6yz 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@drrodopszin I appreciate the optimism that it would be possible to change, although I have my doubts. The unsteady direction of employment and rights has so much economic, capitalistic, political, and societal momentum opposing change....well....it just doesn't seem possible. Pacs run elections which are funded by special interests and corps wanting things the way they are going. That big machine is not going to stop easily

    • @robertbeisert3315
      @robertbeisert3315 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@drrodopszin the government creates these conditions because it boosts GDP and guarantees kickbacks. We have over 100 years of legislation and policies built around this corruption.

    • @ashokstrm
      @ashokstrm 10 месяцев назад +3

      Keep upskilling. Learn a new language, german or japanese. Try creating your own content using AI. Create your own site. Be passionate for yourself. No loans. Be frugal. Stay fit, spend on food, protein, fruits, veg, vitamins, berries, eat healrhy, never give up. God bless you.

    • @millax-ev6yz
      @millax-ev6yz 10 месяцев назад

      @@ashokstrm amen bruh! Just going through a lull for now. I appreciate the encouragement!

  • @Redox9406
    @Redox9406 11 месяцев назад +29

    Software once written does business worth of thousands of people doing it physically. The problem is people who write software aren’t the ones who own the business. Whatever is happening is nothing new but the same old issue of worker owner dilemma of economics. Its not a bad thing or a good thing but an inevitable thing. Ever since I started doing software development, I had a cognisance of this. I wrote payment gateways, built loan management systems, insurance inspection workflows, flight booking workflows. I’ve worked on creating low code solutions too. Those too generate money for business. Code writing code. Those are still serving people and earning money for the business whereas I’m now working somewhere else. Building something more that will in future wont need me or not other software developers.

    • @ashokstrm
      @ashokstrm 10 месяцев назад +1

      What languages you mostly used for these, please. What skill, language you will recommend for the near future where AI will mostly dominate things in another 3 years.

    • @Redox9406
      @Redox9406 10 месяцев назад

      @@ashokstrm I started out as a UI engineer and worked in React Angular and backbonejs. Then I moved to backend where I used Java spring, golang and Python. Now I am working as a fullstack engineer.
      All this time I never really felt like I have been doing actual engineering. Most coding work is comparable to work of a mason who picks code online and modifies it and sticks it to correct places. With the advent of AI for writing code, it's good opportunity for every developer to promote them to actual engineering work. I would recommend learning the core concepts of programming. How different runtimes behave. Limitations of machines. Not focusing on specific programming language. Especially focus on how large systems are built from small components and their interaction.

    • @yurichtube1162
      @yurichtube1162 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ashokstrmwhat will it dominate?

  • @SuperMBARutgers2013
    @SuperMBARutgers2013 11 месяцев назад +42

    This is why corporations need to be regulated. No responsible citizen creates unemployment without repercussions while still profitable!

    • @kuritheking
      @kuritheking 10 месяцев назад

      Precisely

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yup. Trying to out hire any competitors to create a monopoly, only the later fire all your overhired employees once the competition is a non-issue. Just should not be allowed as a business strategy. It only harms society.

  • @commentinglife6175
    @commentinglife6175 11 месяцев назад +44

    The only disagreement I'll have with this video is that the term "shareholders" doesn't mean what we would think it does. These companies are not looking out for the interests of the everyday investor. Instead, they are focused on the big money folks - who actually are generally using OUR MONEY via retirement savings that we can't control - and those folks are not only heavily interested in the company but on the board as well. Thus, any CEO who DOES go off-script will be quickly let go unless they are a founder with enough stock to fight it off. (Even then, it is still possible, as Larry Page proved.)

  • @falsul96
    @falsul96 11 месяцев назад +26

    Just wait until an alternative option appears for all these talented people

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 месяцев назад +5

      The new FAANG haha

    • @vanhuvanhuvese2738
      @vanhuvanhuvese2738 11 месяцев назад +3

      who do you think is trading bitcoin? each layoff = bitcoin higher price dont forget you heard it from me

  • @233kosta
    @233kosta 9 месяцев назад +4

    This is the end result of building a business on hot air and venture capital alone. Sooner or later the free money dries up and you're left scrambling to become profitable.
    This was never a sustainable business strategy.

  • @henryzx900ruly2
    @henryzx900ruly2 11 месяцев назад +18

    me when you've been working the same job for 9 years but then Facebook says "Ight lil bro ur done"

  • @arturogonzalez6232
    @arturogonzalez6232 11 месяцев назад +61

    Google looks like they are in trouble. Even like the most superficial stuff like ads are in bad shape right now

    • @ragreenburg
      @ragreenburg 11 месяцев назад +10

      This statement couldn't be any less true. Just look up Google's revenue and you'll see that Q4 of 2023 had the most revenue they've ever had. On top of that, their profits last year are almost double of what they were in 2020 and it has risen every year since. Do a bit of research before talking about companies being in trouble.

    • @Troy_Built
      @Troy_Built 11 месяцев назад

      That was the whole point of this entire video. They are in the stage where they are chasing revenue and stock price above all else. Doing that led to the demise of all the companies he talking about. Will it happen to Google? I don't know but even Bezos is saying there is no avoiding it.@nburg

    • @DroisKargva
      @DroisKargva 11 месяцев назад

      @@ragreenburgjust look at google search. ITS TRASH

    • @Blessed_91
      @Blessed_91 11 месяцев назад +8

      @@ragreenburg good
      point, but profit != product quality. do you think they still have high quality product that will sustain their growth?

    • @ragreenburg
      @ragreenburg 11 месяцев назад

      @@Blessed_91Honestly, the only Google products I use are RUclips, gmail and a limited amount of Android. So I genuinely can't speak to their product quality. In you opinion, what are products they have that have low quality? Honestly, I think RUclips has gone to shit and I spend much less time here now than I did a few years ago. That being said, gmail is fine and Android is definitely better than it was before.

  • @RealParadox85
    @RealParadox85 9 месяцев назад +3

    Just got laid off my tech job Wednesday. And competition for jobs is insanely fierce, gotta love it.

  • @franciscogerardohernandezR1979
    @franciscogerardohernandezR1979 9 месяцев назад +3

    Calling it "Tech" is too indulgent. Most of these companies haven't solved a fundamental problem of humanity, just shiny apps and buggy operative systems/tools.

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th 10 месяцев назад +4

    When your business enters the stock exchange, it must become as evil as possible, this is the point of the stock exchange after all.

  • @Keenok
    @Keenok 11 месяцев назад +8

    I "might" work for a tech company named in this video and even though we were profitable the last two quarters, it was profitable enough for the street - so we just had a 5% layoff. Thanks XXXXX!

  • @mayankraj2763
    @mayankraj2763 11 месяцев назад +34

    It's not just about the C-team which causes the demise.
    The main issue is during their rapid expansion phase, middle managers come into the picture. 80% of these MMs are technically dull and repeat the leadership's message without understanding the bottomline/context.
    The overall culture becomes less about innovation and more about keeping MMs happy.
    I would avoid attributing everything to the C-team as done in the video with a very few examples.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 месяцев назад +3

      Indeed, I have a video about just that coming up soon haha

    • @shadowninja6689
      @shadowninja6689 11 месяцев назад +13

      Steve Jobs did an interview a long time ago where he said something similar, that essentially salespeople and marketers will inevitably destroy any innovative tech companies. Because early on in the day it's the brilliant engineers who are innovating who make the big profits and get promoted into the senior leadership. But overtime as the company grows marketing becomes more important, and more and more marketers start to fill the leadership at the top, until eventually they seize control of the company and it stops innovating, and some new innovative competitor comes along and topples them.

    • @Monsuco
      @Monsuco 11 месяцев назад +9

      This is basically the "Dilbert principal" Scott Adams outlined years ago. He observed that companies systematically move their least competent employees to the location within the company where they will do the least damage: mid-level management.
      Your least competent employees can't be the engineers who actually design your products because then you'll release garbage products. They also can't be CEO or CFO because your company would go out of business pretty quickly. However if the company is full of mid-level managers who force the engineers into endless training that has no relevance to their jobs or team building exercises or completely pointless meetings that could have been an email the company doesn't really suffer that much in consequences. There's a little loss of productivity, some resources are wasted and the employees get annoyed but nothing that really actually hurts.

    • @robertzabinski6083
      @robertzabinski6083 11 месяцев назад

      @@Monsuco The "Petra" principal

  • @jayakumar9976
    @jayakumar9976 11 месяцев назад +64

    CEO are paid mainly in stocks. So they are incentived to keep making record breaking profit and keep stock price high.
    Only then they will get an fat pay check.

    • @mrparkerdan
      @mrparkerdan 11 месяцев назад +9

      plus, the CEOs retire once their bank balance reaches their predetermined "fuck you" level

    • @camgere
      @camgere 11 месяцев назад +3

      Which neatly aligns senior management with stockholders.

    • @nyankers
      @nyankers 11 месяцев назад +6

      correction: they're incentivized to raise the stock price, not to keep it high.
      they can only profit off of stock price growth once, after all

  • @simplicityd8703
    @simplicityd8703 11 месяцев назад +39

    Seems like it needs a (actual) psychopath to run a company that lays off hundreds most people would just feel so horrible (not saying its bad just psychopaths see numbers and dont feel remorse if it saves the company)

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  11 месяцев назад +12

      It doesn’t even save the company though 😂 Just produces more profits.

    • @khanch.6807
      @khanch.6807 11 месяцев назад +9

      Played a lot of RTS games. My first miners and traders felt very special. I took extra care to keep them safe to build my economy. As my empire got bigger throwing hundreds of ships at the enemy becomes a norm.

    • @dmitripogosian5084
      @dmitripogosian5084 10 месяцев назад

      Must people don't make it to be a CEO

    • @improvisedchaos8904
      @improvisedchaos8904 8 месяцев назад

      A good captain goes down with his ship. These captains send their crew to Davey Jones locker.

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 8 месяцев назад

      There's been some research done on this topic, and yes, the percentage of psychopathic individuals in positions of power (CEOs, bankers, politicians) is several times higher than in the rest of the population. Something about being a mean mf seems to drive this people up in the ranks of our societies. We humans are a f up kind of animal.

  • @bluesteel1
    @bluesteel1 11 месяцев назад +6

    Companies(like my own) have resorted to PIPs for employees who they can find (any) dirt on and blatantly overloading employees they cant find any dirt on, so they quit voluntarily. I've been working close to 10 - 12 hours everyday ~60hrs per week. My wlb has gone into the toilet along with my health.

  • @phriend2spin
    @phriend2spin 11 месяцев назад +8

    Man Google is not what it used to be. They are slowly becoming the next IBM.

    • @RIVALSGOOBERS
      @RIVALSGOOBERS 9 месяцев назад +3

      Hire Indian ceo, get Indian economic results

  • @hikotee
    @hikotee 11 месяцев назад +5

    Interesting time to watch this video after Google laid off the unionizing subcontractors working on RUclips Music yesterday.

  • @Dlstufguy2
    @Dlstufguy2 11 месяцев назад +10

    I wonder what would happen if you have say, 40+ years in a system where the bulk of employees of any company can have their lives upended if not destroyed because some sociopathic nepo baby needs anothe gold plated ivory back scratcher.

  • @Jinchuricki27
    @Jinchuricki27 11 месяцев назад +4

    What we are seeing is a concentrated effort by corporations and the fed to bend the labor market to their will for their benefit.

  • @quantaluxvision
    @quantaluxvision 9 месяцев назад +1

    I think this video summed up what I've been seeing over the last couple years, very very well! This was a great, well made video!

  • @shadeblackwolf1508
    @shadeblackwolf1508 11 месяцев назад +7

    The line god demands more sacrifices, every quarter must show growth!

  • @RATsnak3
    @RATsnak3 11 месяцев назад +2

    The issue isn’t “vanilla CEOs.” the issue is capitalism itself.

  • @96ethanh
    @96ethanh 11 месяцев назад +15

    Being a "vanilla CEO" is required of a publicly traded company trying to maximize profits. Stock market rewards bad behavior. Please, don't get me started on how this benefits everyone else (spoiler: it doesn't!)

    • @khanch.6807
      @khanch.6807 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why not Short the companies long term?

    • @biguattipoptropica
      @biguattipoptropica 11 месяцев назад

      @@khanch.6807too expensive, however they are targeting Tesla and were targeting Meta at some point

  • @ToiletPlugger
    @ToiletPlugger 9 месяцев назад

    For anyone struggling, with whatever or even a terminal illness and you feel like going out like a hero...could use many volunteers.
    Messages must be sent.

  • @Sirfrummel
    @Sirfrummel 11 месяцев назад +4

    Wow this was an excellent take down of the current market and economics of big tech, thanks for your work on this.

  • @AcuraAddicted
    @AcuraAddicted 11 месяцев назад +4

    Typical corporate BS - they do not actually think long term, it's just improving their bottom line.

  • @Achin_Jain
    @Achin_Jain 11 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant analysis mate. I randomly stumbled on this video and I'm definitely subscribing to your channel (along with notifications) 😅

  • @zionen01
    @zionen01 11 месяцев назад +7

    The big tech companies have had a longer than expected lifespan due to hiring talent they didn't need (yet). Give passionate self-driven young people a big fat paycheck and they will stay stuck in a position doing mundane tasks because it is easy enough and pay is good. Fire a bunch of a people and suddenly you have hungry smart and talented individuals creating startups that will make today Google into the next Yahoo.

  • @igorlarionov1910
    @igorlarionov1910 9 месяцев назад

    Man, what a great insight into macro business processes! Really helps to put together all the employment fluctuations in big tech industry and what it means in terms of their strategic directions of development.
    Immediate like and subscription, thanks!

  • @reel_man
    @reel_man 11 месяцев назад +1

    No company is your company till it is yours. No job is yours till you are working for your business..

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 11 месяцев назад +5

    Great video brother!! Thank you!!

  • @lawrencemanning
    @lawrencemanning 11 месяцев назад +1

    Geoff: “Companies come and go”.
    And so it should be. As Bob sang: “The first one’s now will later be last”

  • @dallenpowell2745
    @dallenpowell2745 11 месяцев назад +6

    Value trickles up, wealth trickles down. Value always reaches the top. Wealth never reaches the bottom. And thus we drown in the rising tide of corruption and greed.

    • @tangentfox4677
      @tangentfox4677 8 месяцев назад

      Wealth trickles up too actually. Look at what taxes fund and what charities do and you'll see that the money is thoroughly washed and routed up.

  • @veccio
    @veccio 8 месяцев назад

    Very well put. I think another important factor is upcoming legislation that may impact FAANG’s oligopoly stranglehold on the marketplace. It’s not healthy when wealth and value is too concentrated in one area.
    The trouble is enshittification is here to stay because institutional shareholders have too much sway on these companies.

  • @VelcorHF
    @VelcorHF 11 месяцев назад +3

    Companies take the profits, employees take the losses. This is what happens when grey market behavior is ok. Crime is extremely profitable, almost crime is profitable.

  • @brentlichtenberg
    @brentlichtenberg 9 месяцев назад +1

    We tech workers need to unionize. I'd join a union for SDET's and Testers.

  • @Tate525
    @Tate525 10 месяцев назад +1

    Das Kapital is starting to make more and more sense after mass layoffs everywhere. Only difference being we need to get it absolutely right this time.

  • @choksheak2lau697
    @choksheak2lau697 11 месяцев назад

    This is well-said. Many corporate politicians only care about gaming the stock price, and don't give a hoot about product quality or employee well-being.

  • @space_brain
    @space_brain 11 месяцев назад +1

    these latest layoffs seem to have a purpose of replacing remote workers with in-office workers who are paid less. They didn’t even give the remote workers the option of coming back to the office. I don’t see how big tech companies can thrive without caring at all about institutional knowledge or their engineers.

  • @daledouglas5900
    @daledouglas5900 9 месяцев назад

    Elder GenX in tech here: I’ve been laid off four times in my career. The first time can be traumatic, but it’s no big deal by the third time. Make sure what the exit package is when you sign onto a new job.

  • @TheNefastor
    @TheNefastor 9 месяцев назад +1

    These CEO have completely killed employee loyalty. Bold move; let's see how it pays-off in the long term.

  • @tinad8561
    @tinad8561 10 месяцев назад

    Tell me “the C-suite doesn’t understand the product or process” without telling me the C-suite doesn’t understand the product or process.

  • @williamhewitt7791
    @williamhewitt7791 10 месяцев назад

    As a software architect at a company where mass layoffs happened, it's primarily the "support" staff that is laid off and people who are coasting. Scrum masters, product owners, product managers, and especially, recruiters. None of these positions are necessary or that productive. It's not some huge scheme or conspiracy warping market forces.

  • @raven_glass
    @raven_glass 8 месяцев назад

    My company took out millions in PPE loans during 2020, yet still laid off 20% of employees. I was only given 1 week warning I was being permanently laid off. Companies in America used to focus on sustainability and quality. Now they focus on profits and cost cutting. This is why American products have gone down hill, everything is made of plastic and jobs have moved overseas.

  • @TrampyPulsar
    @TrampyPulsar 9 месяцев назад +1

    The illusion of growth at all costs has been dispelled and most companies realized they have hundreds of workers who are only there to make the company look more productive on the books when in reality their output of a useful product or service is nothing at best, and actively hurting said products and services at worse, one simply has to look at what is happening to the AAA games industry when you have flop after flop after flop with a massive consumer backlash, you can only lie to investors so many times before the money stops coming in.

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 8 месяцев назад

      The problem of AAA games isn't having too many workers, it's bs corporate decisions meddling in every step of the game creation process. Everything must be about monetization, loot boxes and that kind of crap and the quality of the games suffers from it.

  • @Saltatory_
    @Saltatory_ 9 месяцев назад

    Would be interesting to hear you develop the thesis "one a company matures out of the innovation phase, they enter the value extraction phase during which they minimize innovation and maximize profits"

  • @aidanm5578
    @aidanm5578 10 месяцев назад

    I knew I wasn’t crazy for liking my CEO’s modded. Great vid.

  • @Swedish__
    @Swedish__ 9 месяцев назад

    From being in this arena for 30 years, it seems to me the behaviors haven’t changed, just the scale has increased and interval shortened.

  • @apc9714
    @apc9714 11 месяцев назад +17

    I think that companies are doing this not only to appease investors, but also because it's harder to focus when you are big. Google for example has disappointed in many areas, (AI, selfdriving, glass, pixel phone...) but definately not because of a lack of resources. Ultimately I think this is for the best and talented people will create more value in startups than they ever could within those giants.

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 8 месяцев назад

      For the best? I can tell you're not one of these people that have been treated like broken toys

  • @squid84202
    @squid84202 11 месяцев назад +17

    When consumer spending slows even more and these giants miss one quarter of their projected earnings, the house of cards will collapse.. which is crazy because they're still great companies, but that's the nature of a shareholder-driven system. Maybe a reset is for the best though.

    • @cubertmiso
      @cubertmiso 11 месяцев назад

      Agree, resets are healthy. Correction in the market is a natural part of the healthy economic cycle. Sometimes we need a great fush for the ecosystem to stay more aligned and balanced. BTW, do you have ideas for more efficient system than this shareholder-driven that we now have?

    • @sofianikiforova7790
      @sofianikiforova7790 11 месяцев назад

      Can’t wait for consumer spending to slow down though, seems like everyone else has unlimited savings that they’re burning through…

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@cubertmisoall of them? The only efficiency this system seeks is in "making the rich more rich ever more ever faster" game. Efficiencies are encouraged if it makes more money to the company. Laying off workers is encouraged because you can make the rest do all the work and save on wages which will go do directly to the accounts of the shareholders. That's the efficiency this system achieves.

  • @_3xpl0its_
    @_3xpl0its_ 11 месяцев назад +2

    THiS^^^ is a good analysis, most don't understand what is going on inside this companies... (things get ugly inside and good people leave )

  • @not_building_the_ark
    @not_building_the_ark 9 месяцев назад

    Lay off taught me to learn more life skills, farming, driving, mechanical works, hustle in your own terms. Corporates are like cheating GFs, don't, never trust them again.

  • @amorosogombe9650
    @amorosogombe9650 11 месяцев назад +13

    Once the MBA's take over. It's over.

  • @chinocalbes867
    @chinocalbes867 11 месяцев назад

    This is what I've learned:
    --- the change in company direction (innovation VS stock valuation)
    --- leads to change in leadership (engineers VS salesmen)
    --- this leads to a change in the company culture
    --- which leads to a change in the type of employee that would be attracted to work in the company
    --- which leads to the company stagnating in the long run

  • @muddy-one
    @muddy-one 10 месяцев назад

    The "nice" bonus for the shareholders is that all the people laid off won't be working there long enough for their stock compensation to become vested, so the outstanding share count drops. Now that's a win-win for the CEO and investors.

  • @everystack
    @everystack 9 месяцев назад

    Note to younger self: “The more you work, the more work will be delegated to you.” The corporation ladder is a scam; work on yourself instead

  • @leyrua
    @leyrua 8 месяцев назад

    It was a chilling moment when Google changed their motto from "Don't be evil" to "do the right thing".

  • @will2003michael2003
    @will2003michael2003 11 месяцев назад +1

    Does stock growth take into account inflation?

  • @magiclandcartoons
    @magiclandcartoons 11 месяцев назад +1

    Many of the laid off people will start something, unimaginable and still profitable businesses.

  • @hoi-polloi1863
    @hoi-polloi1863 11 месяцев назад +6

    Just a thought about "vanilla CEOs" chasing the stock price above all. Isn't that what you kind of expect when you go public? You're selling the company to the general populace; they and the investors don't care how special the company is, or how much difference it makes; that's not why people invest.

  • @MSportsEngineering
    @MSportsEngineering 11 месяцев назад

    Fire video. Great insight on the real reason for the layoffs.

  • @karanchandra2491
    @karanchandra2491 9 месяцев назад +1

    Steal as much money in your company by sharing trade secrets with other companies . Why help these rich scam bags.

  • @Extrikit
    @Extrikit 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, thank you.

  • @saurabhgalinde779
    @saurabhgalinde779 8 месяцев назад

    I think the same things happened with Boeing. Once the passionate people were out, company started going down over a period of time.

  • @Entropy67
    @Entropy67 10 месяцев назад

    I love how these companies hire a fuck ton of engineers, and instead of starting research projects or promoting new internal innovative ideas and having teams focused on that, they just let them rot! What a joke! I hope these engineers are doing stuff on the side to keep their skills sharp because it seems like a double edged blade, you don't do work at work your skills deteriorate, you have a hard time finding a job when they lay you off.

  • @AutMouseLabs
    @AutMouseLabs 11 месяцев назад +5

    This video calls big tech CEO's geniuses and then spends 10 minutes pointing out how they are impacted by the same greed and methods that every other CEO does. It's something to consider. Maybe capitalism has a predictable path that attracts a certain kind of person at the top and leads to a near certain consequence of collapse, cannibalizing, and entropy. Great video, but CEO's are not geniuses, just people playing a role for a while.

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 8 месяцев назад

      Judging by recent studies, they're of the sociopathic kind.

  • @harsha1306
    @harsha1306 11 месяцев назад +2

    Agree with most of the things said here. But I think calling them vanilla CEOs is doing a disservice, maybe run of the mill CEOs or dirtbag CEOs would have been better

  • @almdrs
    @almdrs 11 месяцев назад +5

    With so many people losing their jobs, how is the economy going to work? Is AI going to buy stuff from itself?

    • @mr.gamewatch7547
      @mr.gamewatch7547 11 месяцев назад

      These elitists a ssholes are too arrogant and self-centered to think about the future like you just did. It will ultimately come back to haunt them

    • @bac0nknight691
      @bac0nknight691 11 месяцев назад +3

      That is apparently not gonna be the problem of the rich

    • @josecipriano3048
      @josecipriano3048 8 месяцев назад

      Each company only cares for itself. Google is like "it's a just fee thousand people, there are still plenty out there to buy my shit". But when every corporation is playing the same game, no one can afford anything and these morons are left wondering why.

  • @honorekiza
    @honorekiza 11 месяцев назад +5

    Lay off then start hiring a week later i don't get it

  • @Vednier
    @Vednier 11 месяцев назад +1

    One of reasons on why layoffs keep happening is lack of overestimated growth which comes from "computerization" limits. You can improve many areas of industry with computer services, but you cannot put computers everywhere. There is limits, always. Did you recall that insane "coffee mug with WiFi and app" to keep your beverage warm? This is example of such limits.
    And rise of interest rates is another nail, which question effectiveness too. Its like you are Indiana Jones, you reached wall AND ceiling started to descend at same time.

  • @theduke9292
    @theduke9292 8 месяцев назад

    CEO writing himself a check for 500 million; we’ve had to make some tough choices this year, this hurts me as much as you, we’re all in the same boat, we’ve all got to make sacrifices

  • @02nupe
    @02nupe 8 месяцев назад

    This was really good content and framework

  • @OlofLaurin
    @OlofLaurin 11 месяцев назад +2

    Yet another excellent analysis

  • @richardmattocks
    @richardmattocks 11 месяцев назад

    A company should only hire when there is a business need for an extra person, not on a whim. It’s called organic growth and works well.

  • @norincurcan8827
    @norincurcan8827 11 месяцев назад +3

    How else can a CEO justify his/hers massive bonuses????

  • @leeroyj7300
    @leeroyj7300 8 месяцев назад

    with the population declining for the first time in decades, big corporations are finally gonna start hurting in a few years

  • @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
    @SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 11 месяцев назад +3

    A lousy time for permanent employees can be a wonderful time for contractors....