It was ok for the player to lose the ball but you see that the player lets the ball come to rest in his hand by having it under the ball then dribbles it again. (24.1.2)
too many people assume as long you did not carry the ball while taking the zero step it will remain as zero step without realizing the moment you carry/hold the ball the dribble has ended and whichever foot on the floor (pick 1 if both on the floor) becomes the pivot aka 1st step or if it happened midair first foot on the ground.
Thanks for the video! What would you call for this: #WKe7cnXvycE (James harden at 6:04). Also, would it be the same call if a player were do to that on a fast break, then they grab the ball with two hands and proceed to take their 2 steps for a layup? (Assuming the hand stays on the top-half of the ball)
No problem! From the looks of the video (I slowed it down to .25 speed), it looks like he gathered the ball on step 4 (What the video numbered as step 4) then goes 5 & 6 which would satisfy the 0-1-2 steps allowed for progressing with the gathered ball. He is allowed to take as many steps as he wants without the ball in contact with the hand and when he gathered it, is when his step limit occurred. On step 3 his hand touches ball but step 4 is when I would deem the gathered occurred. Yes, that would be legal. Step count starts on end of dribble scenarios regardless of shot, layup or pass. Does that answer your question?
I'm new to basketball. What is happening at 4:10? I often see this situation where the opposing team scores, than the other team has to restart the game by passing the ball to a team mate, but for some reason, they wait for a player of the other team to touch the ball or wait for the ball to roll over... I'm not sure if I made myself clear, I'm new to the terminologies of the sport and English is not my main language
No worries! Yes, after every score you must inbound the ball (Where a teammate goes out of the court to pass it in). Players sometimes roll the ball in so that the shot clock (and in some cases, the game clock) does not start. As soon as the player touches the ball, their 24 seconds to score starts. The advantage would be by rolling it and not starting the clock till you get closer to the opponents rim. Does that make sense?
I’m confused by this. He appeared to be in control of this the whole time. Could it not be argued that he just did a really high dribble and retrieved it? I don’t see what it’s actually violating
NBA rulebook Rule No. 10 Section II b. A player in control of a dribble who steps on or outside a boundary line, even though not touching the ball while on or outside that boundary line, shall not be allowed to return inbounds and continue his dribble. He may not even be the first player to touch the ball after he has re-established a position inbounds. Is it the same for FIBA?
I've got some questions; when you're on the offensive side, do you have a better privilege when you're pivoting i.e the person guarding you has to stay in their own cilinder or would they get fouled for touching us? And how does that correlate to if you're shooting (3pt line/or mid) and the person touches you. Do they get fouled both ways?
First question would be in regards to the cylinder principle that can be found here ruclips.net/video/NJdAnBApDgA/видео.html&ab_channel=RefereeUniversity Foul isn't as simple as a touch or contact. Contact has to cause an advantage or disadvantage to be considered being called a foul. Bumps and touches will occur in basketball multiple times but we must penalized contact that affects the game.
So, technically speaking, you can toss the ball to the backboard and regains it again in the middle of the air and even landed after that for many many times but limited to 24 seconds. Is that right? And another question, similar to the ball been touched by a player and a ball touched a player. After you finished the dribble, you toss the ball to the backboard and regains it in the air, before that A) ball have touched another player B) ball have touched by another player Which of the situation, can you start a dribble again? A or B or both?
Yes, you can repeatedly do that action but game clock and shot clock continues. It is also not guaranteed you will retain possession on those tosses off the backboard :). My interpretation is you can start a dribble again in both scenarios. The interpretation is to prevent players from deliberately throwing it off opponents for an opportunity to dribble. It would be extremely difficult to aim a throw off the backboard that hits a player and you are able to grab control before they could. Hopefully that makes sense!
Great question, I wish I had video of that action because contrary to popular belief, it is not illegal unless ball comes under it or hand comes to rest. So if ball touches your shoulder but hand is still on top of the ball or released, it is legal and can be deemed fumbling the ball in some instances.
so they changed the backboard rule huh? is the opponents board still considered as the floor? also if the player used his dribble he can start a new dribble if the opponent merely touched the ball without the handler losing possession?
Nope. Either backboard can be thrown off of. No difference listed between opponent or team backboard. Nope, ball has to leave hands/minor loss of control.
Another great video, particularly fascinating historical perspective.... I'd always wondered why really old games the players looked so "flat-handed" when dribbling almost like beginners... Re 24-5 what if the player holds the ball tight with one hand and uses their free hand to touch the floor and regain balance? Violation or not?
Good question! Would not be a dribbling violation due to no dribbling occurring and would not be a traveling violation due to the pivot foot not being lifted or moved.
@@refereeuniversity Agreed. Whether though obtaining a third point of contact with the floor is in the spirit of the travelling rule is another matter :) In the absurd case, what if the player starting running along on handstands with the ball between their knees?
It would count for two violations haha First one is ball between the legs. Art 13 How the ball is played under FIBA interpretations talks about a player putting the ball between his knees to fake a pass. That would be a violation. It could also qualify for a travelling violation. Your hands would be your "pivot foot" and while you are walking with your hands, no dribble is occurring because you are holding the ball (with your legs). Either violation could be used!
Hi, a question for the "When can you dribble a second time? ", if an opponent taps the ball out of my hand and the ball does not touch the floor, can i dribble again? or does it count as double dribble?
12:00 why is this a violation?
There is no fumble, travel or double
Please explain
It was ok for the player to lose the ball but you see that the player lets the ball come to rest in his hand by having it under the ball then dribbles it again. (24.1.2)
Thanks
Thank you!! Much appreciated!
too many people assume as long you did not carry the ball while taking the zero step it will remain as zero step without realizing the moment you carry/hold the ball the dribble has ended and whichever foot on the floor (pick 1 if both on the floor) becomes the pivot aka 1st step or if it happened midair first foot on the ground.
Thanks for the video!
What would you call for this: #WKe7cnXvycE (James harden at 6:04).
Also, would it be the same call if a player were do to that on a fast break, then they grab the ball with two hands and proceed to take their 2 steps for a layup? (Assuming the hand stays on the top-half of the ball)
No problem! From the looks of the video (I slowed it down to .25 speed), it looks like he gathered the ball on step 4 (What the video numbered as step 4) then goes 5 & 6 which would satisfy the 0-1-2 steps allowed for progressing with the gathered ball. He is allowed to take as many steps as he wants without the ball in contact with the hand and when he gathered it, is when his step limit occurred. On step 3 his hand touches ball but step 4 is when I would deem the gathered occurred.
Yes, that would be legal. Step count starts on end of dribble scenarios regardless of shot, layup or pass. Does that answer your question?
@@refereeuniversity yes! Thank you for your interpretation!
I'm new to basketball. What is happening at 4:10? I often see this situation where the opposing team scores, than the other team has to restart the game by passing the ball to a team mate, but for some reason, they wait for a player of the other team to touch the ball or wait for the ball to roll over... I'm not sure if I made myself clear, I'm new to the terminologies of the sport and English is not my main language
No worries! Yes, after every score you must inbound the ball (Where a teammate goes out of the court to pass it in). Players sometimes roll the ball in so that the shot clock (and in some cases, the game clock) does not start. As soon as the player touches the ball, their 24 seconds to score starts. The advantage would be by rolling it and not starting the clock till you get closer to the opponents rim. Does that make sense?
11:44 still a violation if he stop dribbling and pass?
Nope, it would be a legal play.
What made it illegal is he used the fumble to start a dribble again.
@@refereeuniversity thank you again.
I’m confused by this. He appeared to be in control of this the whole time. Could it not be argued that he just did a really high dribble and retrieved it? I don’t see what it’s actually violating
@@hgldit could but is a judgment call by the ref
Great video as always. To get dribble calls right during the game is not as straight forward as you would think.
NBA rulebook
Rule No. 10
Section II
b. A player in control of a dribble who steps on or outside a boundary line, even though
not touching the ball while on or outside that boundary line, shall not be allowed to return
inbounds and continue his dribble. He may not even be the first player to touch the ball after he
has re-established a position inbounds.
Is it the same for FIBA?
Not the same, it is allowed in FIBA
@@refereeuniversityThanks for the clarification
I've got some questions; when you're on the offensive side, do you have a better privilege when you're pivoting i.e the person guarding you has to stay in their own cilinder or would they get fouled for touching us? And how does that correlate to if you're shooting (3pt line/or mid) and the person touches you. Do they get fouled both ways?
First question would be in regards to the cylinder principle that can be found here ruclips.net/video/NJdAnBApDgA/видео.html&ab_channel=RefereeUniversity Foul isn't as simple as a touch or contact. Contact has to cause an advantage or disadvantage to be considered being called a foul. Bumps and touches will occur in basketball multiple times but we must penalized contact that affects the game.
So, technically speaking, you can toss the ball to the backboard and regains it again in the middle of the air and even landed after that for many many times but limited to 24 seconds. Is that right?
And another question, similar to the ball been touched by a player and a ball touched a player.
After you finished the dribble, you toss the ball to the backboard and regains it in the air, before that
A) ball have touched another player
B) ball have touched by another player
Which of the situation, can you start a dribble again? A or B or both?
Yes, you can repeatedly do that action but game clock and shot clock continues. It is also not guaranteed you will retain possession on those tosses off the backboard :).
My interpretation is you can start a dribble again in both scenarios. The interpretation is to prevent players from deliberately throwing it off opponents for an opportunity to dribble. It would be extremely difficult to aim a throw off the backboard that hits a player and you are able to grab control before they could.
Hopefully that makes sense!
Is a power dribble legal per FIBA rules?
define power dribble
12:03 Why violation?
carry ball or travel?
Carry ball, his hand is under the ball from when the dribble is at his shoulder and ends when he almost touches the ground with his hand.
Thank you
I'm so confused, I really don't see it
Like I see the final thing, but not when he goes low with the ball
Referee University: Thanks so much for this great video I only have one question.
If the ball rises over the shoulder is it an illegal game yes?
Great question, I wish I had video of that action because contrary to popular belief, it is not illegal unless ball comes under it or hand comes to rest. So if ball touches your shoulder but hand is still on top of the ball or released, it is legal and can be deemed fumbling the ball in some instances.
@@refereeuniversity Ok. Thanks again for the answers we look forward to your next video news :)
so they changed the backboard rule huh? is the opponents board still considered as the floor?
also if the player used his dribble he can start a new dribble if the opponent merely touched the ball without the handler losing possession?
Nope. Either backboard can be thrown off of. No difference listed between opponent or team backboard. Nope, ball has to leave hands/minor loss of control.
Another great video, particularly fascinating historical perspective.... I'd always wondered why really old games the players looked so "flat-handed" when dribbling almost like beginners... Re 24-5 what if the player holds the ball tight with one hand and uses their free hand to touch the floor and regain balance? Violation or not?
Good question! Would not be a dribbling violation due to no dribbling occurring and would not be a traveling violation due to the pivot foot not being lifted or moved.
@@refereeuniversity Agreed. Whether though obtaining a third point of contact with the floor is in the spirit of the travelling rule is another matter :) In the absurd case, what if the player starting running along on handstands with the ball between their knees?
It would count for two violations haha
First one is ball between the legs. Art 13 How the ball is played under FIBA interpretations talks about a player putting the ball between his knees to fake a pass. That would be a violation.
It could also qualify for a travelling violation. Your hands would be your "pivot foot" and while you are walking with your hands, no dribble is occurring because you are holding the ball (with your legs).
Either violation could be used!
Hi, a question for the "When can you dribble a second time?
", if an opponent taps the ball out of my hand and the ball does not touch the floor, can i dribble again? or does it count as double dribble?
If the ball is deflected out of your hands on the opponent touch, you can dribble a second time! Hope that helps!