It's that there are styles that are way less effective in actual combat than others. Take aikido for example. Against other aikido practitioners and people that don't train anything at all you'll have very limited success. Meanwhile the same person could train in an effective martial art and have great success instead like muay thai or bjj in the same situation.
@M.W.K totally agree with you. In MMA we have seen wrestlers being beaten by strikers of different fighting styles and vice versa for all fighting styles. It doesn't take away from the fighting style but the skill of the fighter being able to face and conquer the challenge the other fighter imposes
@infiniterer287W ing Chun and southern kung fu in general do not train people to utilize power punches. I trained in Wutan Kung Fu, Long Fist, Bung Bu and Seven Star Praying Mantis, and Baji Fist. Even my late sifu David Schenk said that all defense boils down to strength, power, and agility, aka being fit; including the mind.
I’ve trained for over 30 years, studying boxing, kickboxing,traditional Karate, Akido and systema. What I’ve learnt; the effectiveness is based on the circumstances and the physical environment you are in. In the Dojo/gym you will usually have mats and be practicing with people of a similar skill set. On the street, in a crowd, you are up against the unknown. You may not be wearing suitable clothing or footwear, and you may have multiple unknown attackers. On the street my skills/knowledge has taught me to be aware and to have confidence. Fear is your friend if you control it as it keeps you alert. Once in my early twenties, l was leaving a school gym late at night where I had been teaching kickboxing. Two very large lads were obviously going to mug me in the narrow dimly lit alley way. I sensed it, as they rushed towards me I threw my bag for the guy in front to catch. He caught it with both hands, I instinctively punched him in the chin. He fell to the floor unconscious. I picked up my bag, while the other chap tended to his friend. No one taught me that move, but my body/mind automatically figured out the best solution to live! Stay fit, alert and safe.
How would you rate Karate? I've got a 2 year old and i'm wondering what to put him in when he becomes of age to begin....I understand which arts are best, but also maybe not all arts will hook and keep a kid.....Which art do you think is best for a new child to get into?
@@toptensviewerschoice5204 I started my sons with boxing it teaches how to position your feet to maintain balance and power. Boxing is tough and requires discipline, which breeds respect.
@@toptensviewerschoice5204 The lads started when they were at primary school and lost interest after twelve months. And started kickboxing, but again lost interest and moved onto football. However, all three have just started boxing again mainly for fitness.
@@swiftcee266 I agree Krav Maga is a great system, I’ve trained in Systema which is similar. But when against weapons you are best to be aware and avoid. For example yesterday, my family and I left a restaurant and a group of lads came around the corner. I noticed, the one had a long solid object down the side of his tracksuit bottoms. I suspect it was a machete. Situation awareness saves lives.
I am a 4th degree black belt in American Kenpo Karate and I agree with much of what you have to say. I also trained in Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do, Shotokan Karate, Ninpo, Aikido and Freestyle Wrestling. Yes, it ultimately does come to the three styles you state. Learning that is what the various styles do. In Kenpo we put them into long and short forms. That is just to learn, in a fight we all utilize what we need and when we need it. The firms just aid in training. American Kenpo was quite effective in its time because it blended several styles. Ed Parker our founding father so to say had a black belt in judo and was a golden gloves boxer. He studied karate in Japan and then sort of blended the best frim those styles. He taught us to get uo close and personal with our strikes which is more like boxing/kickboxing. Ge incorporated joint locks and throws from Judo. Its weakness is on the ground and where wrestling and Jujitsu come in. Id always wanted to learn BJJ, but no schools were around. In my childhood and teens I bounced from style to style as my parents moved, but in late teens and adulthood i focused on American Kenpo Karate and a touch of Hawaiian Kempo as to get good at one. I taught Kenpo Karate for years FOR FREE to kids at the church as to keep martial arts alive. This area had a lot of poverty and many kids would not have ever had the chance to learn. Unfortunately covid sgut down the program and i ended up getting covid and ruining my lungs. I'm looking into opening up the karate school again, bit letting my oldest son be lead teacher. He and i joined a BJJ gym. I am slowly learning with limits as ove got bad lungs, 5 herniated discs and arthritis from breaking my back. Im only learning BJJ as it was a lifetime desire ever since seeing the rise of the Gracie brothers in the 80s and 90s. I don't expect to ever be goid at it, but will learn what i can. My eldest on the other hand is picking it up incredibly fast and is wanting to move on to MMA. Am i upset? Absolute not!!!! He doesn't want to destroy my Kenpo Karate, no.....instrad he wants to being BJJ and MMA into my studio. He plans to teach traditional (gi) some nights and no-gi modern other nights. A true martial artist doesn't resist improvement, but embraces utilizing what works.
Good stuff brother ! Great to have another generarion learn the art form(s) too. Im 67, in pain everyday but continue to train Amerucan Kenpo and Small Circle Jujitsu. Ref: Castoldi Jujitsu. Hope I never have a street fight, but I am very prepared as I guess you and son are also. Keep training brother. Brad
I did Judo from 10 and Jiu-jitsu when I reached 16 until my early 20's then stopped. Never had a real fight until I was in my early 30's, I hate violence. Three people attacked a friend of mine and I felt I had to do something. So I stepped in. No idea what happened, it was so quick but my early training must have taken over. I ended up taking on all three and winning. I am now in nearly 60 and have not had to use it again and hope I never have to ever again. I hate fighting but it's nice to know if I have to I can.
@@michigan3690 I doubt it as there is no way we would fight. Why would we? I have interest in fighting anyone so why would I want to fight him and why would he what to fight me. Your post isn pointless mate 🙂
I spent years looking for the perfect most complete art only to realise that it doesn’t exist. If you're serious about combat you have to mix the arts, after all this is how MMA came about.
You're absolutely correct! It's also true that no matter how many forms you learn or how complicated they get, and real life situation, the simplest moves are the best. In a real fight or in a ring everyone uses the most basic techniques.
true but not all have the same basic instinctive techniques, repetition creates the reflexes. In a street situation a sport fighter will naturally guard deflect jab hook uppercut or other simple and effective combo, and the most basic for a martial artist or self defense well trained could be a faint to ease the situation open handed get close blow a spearfist in the throat, groin or or tiger slap in the ear. Those kind of stuff not very difficult for both fighters because its their natural move of all year in the gym cage, or dojo or else...
A lot of people are giving their opinions on street fight s, but how many have actually been on one , the one thing that martial arts can not teach you is aggressiveness and confidence. You eighther have it or you don't have it, that can actually make the difference on the outcome of a fight
I started MMA later in life, but my wrestling background gave me a distinct advantage over 95% of the members who only started at BJJ. The tricky part was incorporating strkes into my wrestling Arsenal.
I learned silat from a dear family friend who was in the Indonesian army. He was the most brutal teacher I've ever had, but his most valuable lesson was "a fight you avoid is a fight you already won". He prepared me for the worst by never holding back when sparring. Lots of bruises, cuts, bleeding and tears, but it was all worth it. Doesn't matter what you practice, but make sure it is geared towards real, actual fighting, and not just going through the motions to get the next level.
The best forms of silat are supposed to be really good at dealing with knife attacks. I understand where this guy is coming from regarding training for sport fighting can eventually help with a real street self defense situation also. If you train to move in a crisp quick and powerful way punching ,elbows etc.its going to benefit you in a real fight. Their are so many aspects to fighting economy of motion,energy awareness,rhythm of movement. Their are to many to name,but a person who is fit and has actual punching power and has worked with focus mitts and different boxing equipment and has strong fighting spirit should care well against an attacker who isn't trained and is less fit.
@@brittscott4673 the greatest lesson of combat sports is to train yourself to get hit in the face and keep going. Something not many martial arts are able to teach because there is limited contact when sparring. It is essential for your combat readiness to be aware of what happens in your body and mind when you're hit, and to learn to react and keep the fight going.
I'm still in school, and I used to always get picked on because of my height, and that was understandable, because most asians are short and most caucasians are tall. My father knew silat, and he knew I knew he knew silat, so I remember asking him if he could teach me silat, for self defence. My father's way of training me was 'rough', a bit like what you said. But it sure as hell did work. No one wanted to bully me after i laid some kid down on the floor. If you know what I mean. And I completely agree with what your teacher said, about "a fight you avoid is a fight you already won," because it's true. It saves either one, or both, or more if there is any, from getting hurt.
Bruce Lee is the best modern martial artist. no one teaches the way in these days. the only thing people train is fighting these days. now as long as you brag and boast of your skill your a great fighter but that is your biggest weakness when the unexpected takes you out because your blind to your own reality. 30 years ago if you were an expert in your art nobody knew it because it wasent a thing to brag about it and your giving up your best advantage.
While on Okunawa from 1971-2972 I started taking Okinawan Shorin Ryu Matsumura. It is a close quarters combat system. I have found that it works for self defense. I do not challenge others to show off. At 73 now I still keep up with the basic forms for exercise. Thank you for your video.
I saw you included my mom's fighting art in your list at 5:03. I would argue that her style is devastatingly effective, and it does not include striking, takedowns or joint locks. But after a 3 minute conflict, you will need a week of recovery from emotional impacts , guilt takedowns and humiliation locks. Understand, it takes years to master her art, and she will keep some techniques to herself until you are "ready". Lemme know if you want her to stop by your gym. 😉
Eddie Murphy explained this in his skit 40 years ago , shoe throwing Mama . You can run and hide but that shoe is going to find you , it will track your arse down and whap .
I have combined three arts and they are surprisingly successful, Wrestling, Boxing and Gymnastics. People sleep on the power of gymnastics but it is brutal training that only wrestling comes close too. When i was young it gave me insane take down defence and mobility, my boxing was defence heavy and gymnastics made my clinch very effective, I could move out of the way of any strike, I could block most punches and if we clinched my balance and dynamic strength would be a complete surprise, it is an unstoppable combo i think that I stumbled into by just by accident having trained all three at the same time. I believe GSP speaks very highly of gymnastics and how it improved his clinch and defence.
This is probably the most balanced simplistic video of seen on your no matter what style you practice they all break down to those three elements at the end of the day❤
One thing I noticed while jumping between martial arts is that what you're saying about the the 3 style is true, the biggest difference between them all comes down to how they execute these movements which ultimately affects how they look. Boxing for example, uses hip rotation, core strength, upperbody and footwork to generate their punching power, which is why they have the most number of non-linear punches compared to other martial arts. Wing Chun uses spinal structure, core, some hip rotation and elbow(punching from the elbow) to generate their short range power but not long range, so their punch is very linear. Bajiquan tries to generate maximize their power using multiple body movement at the same time, so the same punch and elbow can look completely different depending on which movement you use and omit to generate power.
Kenpo was the first MA that I really pursued and immediately found that it had holes. Luckily, my instructor was of the same opinion and I found this out one day when he watched me spar and said, "You'd probably do really well with boxing. Wanna learn it?" Turned out he was a silver gloves champ and once a month we started doing a boxing class, and that turned into twice a month. Loved it.
Brenda Fickel, there are moves in Kenpo that are strikes that do work. I used to fight in sparring tournaments, and best other people because I used old school back fists and front and side kicks. Surprisingly, it is the basics of Kenpo that work. The advanced stuff you would never be able to pull off in a real fight. If I front kick someone before they get to me then I can run away usually. I trained under Joe palanzo, who was Ed Parker's predecessor.
An interesting and useful categoriation. One could probably come up with similar meta categories for armed combat. You could also classify specific techniques from various martial arts along dimensions of complexity and/or "ease of use", required strength, and percentage of effectiveness (i.e., probablity the technique will have a desired effect) and to borough from Dungeons and Dragons -- how many "damage points" is a technique worth.
I’m a practitioner in Kajukenbo and I do agree on the point that you will not pull “technique 12” in the street. I know 24+ forms and I’ve never used any of them in the street. The thing is, these forms are supposed to give you a concept to use those techniques or an idea, if that makes sense. I’ll say an example: I was taught a defense against a rear naked choke. It was very technical. Few years later, someone put me in a rear naked choke and I ended up not doing each step I was taught. I took concepts from about 5 other techniques and defended myself.
I went full circle. I started with Tang Soo Do as a kid. Then started doing Judo and BJJ in college, then boxing and Muay Thai. Ultimately ended up at an MMA gym saying “I wish I knew all this when I was a kid doing Tang Soo Do.” Fast forward to me in my 40s and I’m like “man, I just miss training Tang Soo Do.” Kind of like you said, I think I just like the traditional side of it. I’d come to your gym, but you’d just beat me up…I agree with your video.
@Joshua M. all good, I don’t think it’s rude. Generally speaking it is, but similar to BJJ there is no lack of training with full resistance. Every class you have live training where you’re trying your hardest to not get thrown while the other person is trying their hardest to throw you.
If he is in Montreal I could go to his gym, but I will be using a mix of fighting styles mixed, which I use and adapt to. No one single style could I concieve of or pull off or even know what that would feel like. A chain punch I do for paratic to do fast straight jabs. Not to fight with. As well if I did do that in a real fight I am not going to chase him around doing them. If he is on the ground two fast straight chain punches might find his nose or throat though. To redirect one to the hands I might be setting you up to break out a knee cap with a kick. That is how it is used. I trap, I grapple, I strike, and yes choke. I even stumped a two foot jump straight down on a person once nearly ending them-period. So at 44 I still gladly meetup with youtubers anytime for a round or two.
As a practitioner of Japanese jujitsu and kenpo karate, this is by far the best explanation I have ever heard regarding different martial arts. I’m lucky as both of my instructors explained that even though we have set techniques we practice, it is also the movements we try to ingrain into our memory. We may not use the entire particular technique we practiced but if an opening occurs where we can use a portion of that technique then it’s a win. Fantastic video, this is the first I’ve heard of your channel but I will definitely start listening to more.
I'm a hobbyist writer who's tried to understand these concepts for a couple of years now. Thank you so much for compiling my thoughts so clearly for me. It finally makes sense!
This video here is a great example of what I been doing. I did Shotokan Karate for 5 years and recently been doing MMA involving Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, and Judo. I took what worked for me from the times I learned Shotokan Karate like the stance, the Karate Blitz, and chambering kicks to make myself a more well rounded fighter mixing in my Karate with the other style…. Something like Lyoto Machida’s 💪
I did it backwards. I learned muy Thai first but I like side kicks and blitzes like machida so I figured out how to set them up and use them against Thai/ kick boxer guys. They aren't used to it so it lands often.
My base martial art was TKD. My parents put me in it as a kid; I trained it for 30+ years. I’ve also trained BJJ, aikido, hapkido, Japanese jujutsu, kali, Muy Thai, iaido / battojutsu, and on. Name it, I’ve trained it. That said, I’m a former corrections officer. I have been the first guy in on riots. I’ve been attacked. I’ve gone hands-on so many times it all blends together. I could not tell you the number of physical altercations and restraints I’ve been in. Whatever martial art you train? It’s not enough. It’s incomplete. You absolutely need to train in any / every martial art that you can, you take what works for YOU, and discard the rest. In the end, you build a system that is customized to you, your temperament, your physical abilities and skill sets. That is the best martial art, or I should say combative system for you. NAO fite me! You’ll lose. Just kidding. I’m old, beat up, and just go for my .357 these days ;)
Viet Vo Dao, Engolo, Turon? Most people can't name more than half a dozen Martial Arts, here you named all the same ones popularised just about everywhere around the world, the "pop arts" so to speak, I named 3 (6) arts, did you study any of them? In Vietnam alone there are hundreds of Martial Arts (claimed 500+, almost each village has it's own!), so anyone who claims to do any martial art I can name will come unstuck pretty quickly, especially if they only have a narrow idea of the breadth & depth of martial arts in cultures around the world...
Nice breakdown. I agree with your views presented in this video. Traditional Japanese Jujitsu incorporates strikes, locks, kicks, throws, chokes and grappling. We also learned how to focus breath or blood into vital areas to prevent damage from impacts, strikes or chokes.
I'm a boxer, so I already have my punching. I'm lacking the kicking, the grappling and the wrestling. What martial arts would you advise me for that? It would be cool if I could fill those gapes with only two more martial arts. Is it possible?
I have been doing a very old school traditional form of Tiger Claw Kung Fu for almost 30 years. I've been teaching for half that time and find myself completely agreeing with everything you're saying 100%! In fact I've been saying a version of this for years. I've been in hundreds if not thousands of fights in sparing and tournament and every single one of them has been a version of kickboxing. Much of our system is kickboxing with some grappling. The most successful member of our system had 47 wins and in 1 loss and was a 19 title champion Paul Vizzio in kickboxing. I've watched dozen of Kung Fu tournaments with styles ranging from Wing Chun to Choy Le Fut to Eagle Claw to Hung Ga and the fights are all versions of kickboxing. Do some of our style specific techniques come into play? Yes, sometimes but it's all kickboxing/grappling in the end. Even our 86 year old Grandmaster says all styles are basically the same, the difference is you. You make the system great, the system will not make you great.
@@santicheeks1106 Yes, if done slowly and very gradually. I would say it's essential to any martial art. It works on creating micro fractures that when they heal the bone becomes much stronger and able to withstand the pressures of striking. However, if done too hard too fast you can permanently damage the nerves in your hand. Also certain Chinese liniments help in the healing process.
@nighthawk292 I used Dim Mak accidentally by doing a fast spinning back fist while sparring with my brother. I struck my brother very quick, yet lightly by control to the right side of his neck. What happened was it quickly sent blood up to my brothers right brain from his carterid artery. This caused him to be completely paralyzed on the left side of his body, like an artificial stroke. He says it was the most pain he ever had until he broke his rib whole long line fishing. Fortunately, he fully recovered after about fifteen minutes. Later, I learned it is a Dim Mak move.
Agree. My Tae Kwon Do instructor always was humble towards other martial arts and fighting techniques. Because of that he taught us to study other styles and be open to learn new things even if the dojo was focused on TWD. So we learned a little about wrestling, hapkido, boxing to name a few, because we understood that strict TWD was not going to be enough in every scenario.
@@chorto4038 I humbly disagree...though I would say that TDK alone doesn't cover everything you could need, and I don't think any martial arts does, which is why MMA is titled as such.
Our class is often rolling and falling, and doing things that aren't strictly TKD for exactly this reason. Non specific style can legitimately cover every possible scenario.
I adore this. Never seen you before, but I'm subscribing because of this video. So I trained in Hapkido, but the way that I was trained honestly matches your mentality. We didn't learn crazy ass technique chains and "if someone does this, here is how you react." Instead we learned a plethora of individual, effective techniques to be applied situationally. Say someone grabs the front of your shirt and is threatening you. Here are 15 different ways to handle that scenario. Figure out what works for you, what works for the individual situation, chain techniques as you like or as you feel necessary, using whatever level of force you deem necessary for the situation. I've watched a lot of Hapkido videos online and though, "huh...that's not how we did it," so I get that my Dojang was one of the outliers when it comes to how we trained. But my Master was of a similar mindset. He didn't worry about flashy techniques and crazy combos. It's saved me a couple of times, and I'm not ashamed to say that I'm not super proficient.
Tai chi is different from the push hands form which is used in tournaments. The meditative style is not for combat, but for slow practice and introspection. I didn’t know this either until I learned about Josh Waitzkin.
let them stay ignorant. combat oriented tai chi changed me into a totally different kind of fighter. long as they think we're weak theyll never see it coming.
As someone who practices several martial arts, including aikido (and its variants), uechi ryu, and kickboxing, I completely agree with everything said here. He provided a pretty nice breakdown of basically every martial art there is.
I'm sorry but I find this explanation too vague, too general in it's point... Striking, Wrestling, Grappling.... (But in what scenario..).... Here are some realistic points I'd like to add: 1) PHYSICAL SIZE.. (Would a 4'10" lady, no matter how well trained in those three categories, defeat someone as big and strong like Eddie Hall or Brian Shaw??) 2) AGE (Ali and Tyson were unstoppable during their prime, but not as they grew older..) 3) CHARACHTER (Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get hit.. How do you react when you get hit??..) 4) MASTERY (Bruce Lee said, the best definition of mastery is when the moves become AUTOMATIC.. Fear, Panic, Confusion will come when someone bigger is attacking you.. It is important for the technique to be AUTOMATIC so that you'd be able to fight even if FEAR dominates your mind.) 5) REQUIREMENTS FOR A GOOD STRIKE: -Speed -Power -Toughness of your striking hand -Accuracy -Reaction time
In my street fighting classes we practice all of these things. Mostly sparring practice. Standing striking, standing grappling, take downs and various types of ground work
Good points! Out in the streets--totally different environment: unpredictable, fast, violent, and unstructured--gotta prepare for that type of environment, in which one will be striking, grappling, and kicking--probably all at once!
This is a great video. I've done TKD and MMA for 15 years and I can understand when other martial artists get in their feeling about this topic. Keep up the great work on this content!
Well said. I took 5 years of wing chun. Even got a tattoo. Took one Muay Thai class and quickly realized WC didn't hold up. Now I've moved onto Muay Thai, boxing and bjj. I do see elemens of wing Chun in each, but as you said, it's better to incorporate those movements into the other styles than to keep training wing Chun and try to make it work.
Similar story, but I used to do JKD (lots of wing chun in it) then took a Muay Thai class and it blew me away, have been doing Muay Thai now for about 6 months and have improved a hell of a lot (and the an added bonus is the massive improvement in my overall fitness levels)
I entered Kenpo as a mid teenager. My instructor had a class after his class that taught a mix of things to survive in real fights. People going to jail and with a bounty on their head would join. You always have to have the right tool in your box. He didn't just teach unarmed combat, but a lot wasn't coming to a fight with a weapon. A lot of it was situational advice in how you can find one if needed or an escape plan.
so what would be the right tool in one's box then? also, they accept people going to jail and people with a bounty on them like no rejections whatsoever?
@@davidchang8428 Tohei Sensei used to answer the question "what if they have a machine gun?" and he said: "If they aren't close enough to step inside, Run, but not away but at an angle to the side", seemed like a good metaphor.
Here in the Philippines Kali's techniques is often used in street fights, so I can say It's effective in different kinds of fighting even with weapons or kickboxing
I retired from the 10th mountain div after 22 years and 6 combat tours. We all trained in Kali for close combat situations using a knife. I literally bet my life on Kali many times in those 6 years of kicking in doors and in-house conflicts,..at a range of 6 foot or less Kali was a far superior option than a m203 rifle with grenade launcher attachment. Now retired I carry a small 4 inch bladed knife for personaal protection.
I'm sorry but I find this explanation too vague, too general in it's point... Striking, Wrestling, Grappling.... (But in what scenario..).... Here are some realistic points I'd like to add: 1) PHYSICAL SIZE.. (Would a 4'10" lady, no matter how well trained in those three categories, defeat someone as big and strong like Eddie Hall or Brian Shaw??) 2) AGE (Ali and Tyson were unstoppable during their prime, but not as they grew older..) 3) CHARACHTER (Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get hit.. How do you react when you get hit??..) 4) MASTERY (Bruce Lee said, the best definition of mastery is when the moves become AUTOMATIC.. Fear, Panic, Confusion will come when someone bigger is attacking you.. It is important for the technique to be AUTOMATIC so that you'd be able to fight even if FEAR dominates your mind.) 5) REQUIREMENTS FOR A GOOD STRIKE: -Speed -Power -Toughness of your striking hand -Accuracy -Reaction time
There is a lot of wisdom in this video. I trained in Kempo, Tang Soo Do, and Hapkido for years. After years I found a gym that trained MMA style. I brought the strengths/elements of the martial art styles that I had studied for years and applied those in the MMA style of training.
I have done a bunch of different martial arts over the years. My fighting style - what I have used in the security industry and in the street - takes little bits from all of them and combines it into something that works for my body and my instincts. I know enough ju-jitsu to defend against it and get up off the ground against most opponents. Unsurprisingly, this is my advice to everyone. Learn a whole lot of techniques, then work out what works for you.
Exactly the same here mate. 29 years training, done various styles, some great, some bs. I’ve been in combat situations both, in the street, sport, and then in security for just over a decade. I will add, those different scenarios have led me to take different approaches
I started my martial arts with Taekwondo in elementary and practiced that for 3 years but was really concerned about the, in my opinion, over-emphasis on flashy kicks. I got into a scuffle with a friend's older brother, nothing serious, and he floored my the moment I lifted my foot off the ground. That was a hell of a shock for me. Moved to another state in middle school and started again at a Goju-Ryu karate dojo. This place was cool because it didn't just teach you the traditional karate stuff but also went into jiu-jitsu and judo and occasionally brought in some wrestlers who vigorously taught me how to sprawl, double-leg take-down, and control my center of gravity. By high school I started mixing in some boxing with my stand-up karate strikes and felt pretty comfortable with how I could handle situations. I only got into 2 serious fights in school and both were won thanks to getting out of a football tackle and following through my punches (each only took 2 punches). I'm not the strongest or best and wasn't at all at my dojo, but just knowing those things really saved my ass from being humiliated. I still liked Taekwondo as it did help me with flexibility and performance once I started weightlifting; it just never ended up helpful in fighting.
Long story short. School organized a day where students could try out diff sports by local clubs. Judo it was. Me 15, blue belt in JJ, ended up sparring a junior national champ TKD. For fun ofc. Took 1min . We became best friends and he also started practicing JJ at our dojo. RIP Youri
@@DrNotEmpathetic Thx. Everywhere he went (tournaments etc) he was praised for how amazing his kicks wr etc. That 1min broke his reality. TKD is beautiful but once you step in they are so lost, literally.
In high school, we had this kid by the nickname Lil Van Damme. He was a Taekwondo practitioner (old school, mid 90-s WTF I think) and was very prolific at knocking the crap out of hoodlums in the streets with flashy high kicks. Everyone kinda admired him for that because everyone had seen wrestlers and boxers being efficient in the streets, but it was the first guy we knew who had a track record of pulling off knockout after knockout with his high kicks. I, one the other hand, also dabbled in Taekwondo, but when the time came to put it to the test I assumed my stance and the other kid simply kicked me to the groin with all his might. To this day I remember being stunned and angry: "This is unfair! This wouldn't fly in a competition", hahaha
Great video. In our black belt test for Tang Soo Do, there was a self defense portion. I'm 6'6" and 330lbs. I simply used my size street and fighting techniques to easily beat the 2nd and third degree instructors. Our lead instructor always stresses that TSD is an art, fighting is something entirely different.
Firstly, one thing a lot of martial artists ignore is the fact that size DOES matter. There are no secret techniques to beat a bigger, stronger opponent, you just have to be a good enough fighter that you outdo the size disparity. And secondly, yes, I agree, TSD and similar styles are an art form - a method of self expression, and that’s totally okay. Not everything HAS to be about fighting. Just be honest
I won golden gloves joined Hapkido because I did not want to continue knocking people out. I found the martial artist lacked footwork so I could easily knock them out when I wanted. It was hard to train when there was an obvious lack in a basic skill. But I played along although my partners knew I had a major advantage. They thought I was just really good when it was just a skill that could be learned just was not being trained there. I think it is a good idea to learn basic skills then bounce around to learn street skills that actually work in the street. Never go to the ground in the street unless you know you are alone or you may get kicked in the head by someone!
@@micker9830 its hundreds of millions of street fight videos where it doesnt go to the ground. why would i go to the ground on hard ass dirty concrete *on purpose* ?
I think that's its important to remember why you train your specific martial art. I train japanese jiu-jutsu because I like it as a form of exercise. It doesn't matter to me if it is the most effective form of self-defense or not, since that's not the reason why I started training it. Same applies to other martial arts. I did Aikido back in the day, again mainly for the exercise. I stopped Aikido, not because it wasn't effective for self-defense, but because I wasn't enjoying it very much.
I thought I was gonna hate this, but I actually agree. I think this is why you have to train the fundamentals of whatever category your style is in if you want any realistic chance of efficacy. Case in point, I've trained FMA for years, but we had boxers in our gym to give fundamental boxing training...which made how we trained some of the empty hand techniques far better. Most styles are just the icing on the cake of their corresponding fundamentals. Liked and subscribed!
Nail on the head there. You gotta know your stand up, clinch, and ground game. Your respective style can add flavor and strategy to those things, but without the universal fundamentals, you're just repeating choreography.
Yeah the things that make empty-handed arnis better is boxing. They box all the time every where in Filipino communities but a lot of modern guros don’t spar.
Kali and boxing do have it s similar traits. And they are not that far off. I have read somewhere some of the best Filipino boxers do train the Kali footwork.
This video gets a 10 out of 10. I became a black belt in Tae Kwon Do when I was 14. Been in 2 actual street fights since then and realized quickly I was also fighting the pavement beside the other person. The 1st fight ended up wrestling the other person, on the pavement, having him submit just bf I was about to put my elbow through his nose. He also had about 80lbs on me, same height. The 2nd fight I was much more precise with my kicks and punches and knocked him out right bf the cops got there. Grappling and wrestling are essential along with strikes bc if you don't settle it fast ending up on the ground is inevitable.
My brother is a black belt and then there's 2 more of us, a Brown and me at Red (as kids that is). My first major fight on the street getting jumped I was 16 and I quickly found myself on the floor. Luckily I was able to use the pavement as my brace and kick the daylights out of the balls of the guy who just punched me and when he crouched his head down in pain I let his chin have some of that too. He was out that fight and it saved me having those distancing kicks after I got up, but I was totally out of ideas on the floor. An my punches were just wild teenage hooks lol. A couple years later I buried myself into an MMA concept school, before that was a popular term. TKD helped me with balance, judging distance and moving in and out fast but my hands were really lacking in my young days because of that style.
I don't think that anybody with actual martial arts experience, who is familiar with different styles could be mad at you, because this is simple, distilled truth!
freestyle-greco roman wrestling-dad was golden glove boxer-learned some martial art kicks from friends….incorporating them is very effective…u are 100% correct
Nice video! I myself have a Kyokushin brown belt, and while I do enjoy wearing gi I did not choose my art because of that. I choose it because of the whole package that no other art seems to have. The brutal training with bare knuckle punches, the kyokushin mindset and conditioning, the samurai and Japanese philosophy, the beautiful and powerful katas with meditation and breathing techniques, the Japanese culture, philosophy and respect, and also the grading system which gives a linear and clear goal of something to always improve and learn, you can in fact spent your whole life on kyokushin but still never be able to reach 10th dan, which is what I love. And also by not allowing head punches you keep your brain cells in the long run, so it's a good combination of everything. I love that a lot of people in my dojo are 40-60 year olds who still train and fight hard, there is no age to the art which is beautiful.
I first started Kyokushin when I was 11 (56yo now). My club was well established and had national heavyweight champ in competition. I also studied Kendo later in teens under shihan who was one of the first men to successfully complete the 100 man kumite in Japan (John Jarvis). I still call it the meathead style. Affectionately, because it's true. Finesse? Ah no, that's not Mas Oyama's thing. You are so right about mindset tho', and the idea of mind conditioning through physical conditioning. BUT all that knuckle and floor stuff, muscle and grit over finesse, conditioning and hard movements really wears on the body of old practitioners. It's a good base to learn what traditioonal "martial art" means and feels like but it's very limited in the breadth of things there are out there to learn.
Yeah, it is funny how we practice all these things but in a fight it’s like you said, strike, grapple, wrestle. In a street fight almost all of that goes out the window. It’s just a scrap.
Great video, Dominic Izzo put me onto you. My take on this is era's, I'm 55, back when I was in My late teens, early 20's, 90% of people couldn't fight. Those guys that did some amateur boxing & Karate back then were the fighters, won almost every street fight they were in. When UFC first started with the Gracies, they won hands down, as all the traditional Martial artists didn't know how to defend against the take down. As UFC evolved, mixed martial arts took over from BJJ, because of the obvious. Now here we are today, everybody knows somebody that does mixed martial arts, so there's a lot more then 10% of guys out there that can fight, so b4 when you could get away with ya Wing Chun, now you have to be excellent at the art, for it to even have a chance of working. Another aspect is fitness, most traditional martial artists are unfit, most guys that practice MMA are super fit, no contest straight away, your getting ya arse kicked period. I did Judo, Karate & wing chun as a kid, sucked at them all, why, cause some of us are born to fight regardless of style, I wasn't. Good luck with the channel 🤜🤛
@@seanwebb4291 Yeah, I think that visibility is huge. Before UFC, I don’t recall that televised martial arts tournaments were much of a thing. I guess there was _some_ stuff, there was TKD at the summer Olympics, and of course boxing & wrestling were big… but it wasn’t until UFC that *lots* of laypeople were watching martial arts in bars and at parties and talking with each other about what they were seeing. I think it convinced a lot of folks that martial arts weren’t just action movie BS.
Dominic Izzo?? LOL, is he still around? He doesn't do real WING CHUN. He uses modified Wing Chun and mixes it with other crap because that is the only way it will work!! Only real TRADITIONAL WING CHUN works completely and needs no modification because it is COMPLETE as a system!
I actively train Muay Thai/Muay Chaiya and Jiu Jitsu but have also trained wing chun(still practice 30 minutes daily) and I totally agree with your comment regarding Silva. I've also watched a video of him on a wooden dummy and he wasn't using standard wing chun as I know it and at one point literally looked like he was slapping it open handed. Wing chun is very useful but it is important to think about the context. First, it isn't a "practical art" and instead it is a "conceptual art" and it is a "dead art" vs a "living art" meaning the tech is set by some source that can not be question and the system doesn't grow(unlike Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu where whatever works within the rules wins). Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu are examples of practical arts. Wing Chun, and most martial arts with forms, are conceptual and some more or less on a spectrum between pure concept and some mixture of concept and practical use. Wing Chun forms are almost entirely pure concepts and the concepts are useful but imho only if you already know how to fight. Just as an example, and a relevant example imho, no one punches in a real fight like you see people punch a speed bag. I know several techs on the speed bag that are actually hand fighting where I'm using it to clear their guard as a setup for some other strike. Wing chun is basically a bunch concepts like speed bag drills and you either have to have someone who knows how to use it practically in a real situation against a skilled opponent or just figure it out on your own.
Valid points man, I saw how susceptible boxers were to leg kicks and decided to learn me some muay thai. I still spar in my boxing stance though and get the crap kicked outta my legs every week but I just pretend it doesn't hurt and hope they get bored. They don't get bored.
I did what you were talking about.. I got my black belt in karate when i was 17 way way back in the day… but I noticed at my school the training didn’t seem to be super effective.. so I started training in my garage then I started going to a boxing gym. And noticed how they trained.. bag work Pad work… everything geared toward combat. and then I signed up for a kickboxing fight.. After that l quit traditional karate. But I didn’t drop the style I just took what I loved about karate and incorporated into kickboxing.. so, my spinning kicks and spinning backfist. I appreciate the style I trained in because It gave me a unique kickboxing style but i was over the gi and traditional bowing in and out of a gym and saying “yes sensei!” I loved going in with my gym shorts and getting some good training in.
@@lawrencedroman it definitely does.. but I just had a preference for non traditional training.. and I liked the boxing punches and defense.. essentially I fell in love with kickboxing. But I have a lot of respect for my karate background.
Japanese Karate focus on Budo or martial way of life which means it is not actually focus on a combative side of Karate but on more spiritual enlightenment but back to the old days in Okinawa they did the jutsu part or the concept based Karate but now even in Okinawa they also starting to become a more like Japanese way of teaching Karate but there are some masters there teaching the old ways of Karate which is concept based or the "why" and the Japanese Karate focuses on the "how" that's why their kihon is far not so useful in actual combat. You see, Karate is design to kill or disable the person it is not actually non-consensual combat so the engagement is more closer and sneaky. And the shocking thing about Okinawan Karate is they also trained in weapons because Karate and Kobudo are partners. You don't wanna fight someone who's having a weapon ofcourse. Maybe you should re-explore Karate more and you will find some I suggest focus first on kihon why they're like that. Karate is not always a strike and it will level up your mma if you do mma.😊✊
As someone who has trained in various styles i used to be a traditionalist always thought the traditional styles were the best but i suppose you truly do have a point and you gave me something to think about and explore so thank you 😊
You are very right, what most people underestimate is no matter how good you are there’s still the risk of the lucky punch, reaction time plays a big roll
Back in graduate school I had a friend who had been in the Soviet military, where he had trained in martial arts . During training he had broken fingers and ribs, but the important thing was they practiced to kill at full speed and did not pull punches. When he entered martial arts tournaments here he destroyed just about everybody because they simply weren't used to getting hit for real.
That's an extremely significant point that you made. Tai Chi Chuan teaches that sparring actually teaches you non-self defense. There is a different energy phenomenon that takes place when you strike someone with the intent of doing real damage in a real fight.
@ian7033 control is great, but if you are a college student who has never experienced actually being hit, it's a different story. People get knocked out in tournaments
I've been saying that strikes, locks (joint locks and strangulation etc.), and takedowns (throws, trips, tackles etc.) are what comprise all effective fighting techniques for a long time. This is spot on.
I enjoyed the mental gymnastics displayed in this video. You're talking about styles of fighting versus an "organized", technique-driven martial arts, but then you mix up various ideologies. Ultimately, there are two kinds of fighters. (Sorry, hate to do this "either/or" argument, but it works here.) Either the fighter goes through life picking up various techniques that seem to work, and that he/she enjoys employing, OR that fighter goes to an established style and practices that style's techniques exclusively. It's a person's general philosophy that drives their preference, and THAT, in turn, is based on their personality and life experiences. I'll go further -- even within a given style, different practitioners will focus on their favorite techniques within that style, minimizing (or completely ignoring) techniques that they don't like (or find difficult to utilize). Personally, I think that the more experience one has in fighting, the more one tends to gravitate toward quick, destructive, highly EFFECTIVE techniques that will probably rarely be employed, if ever. The other stuff is just for exercise and enjoyment. Oh, and as far as Tai Chi Chuan --- at one time, undeniably, in an era of lethal combat, when it was not uncommon for fighters to die or be permanently injured in tournaments of that period, Tai Chi Chuan reigned as a style. It was widely acknowledged (in China) as a lethal and EFFECTIVE style. That was a long, long time ago, however. It seems that the learning curve involved to master its complexities and wide assortment of techniques, AND utilize them effectively, is simply beyond the patience or determination of most Americans today. But, this is all just my 2¢.
Kickboxing, wrestling, grappling. Great breakdown. UFC/MMA integrated them, and demonstrated how they are all useful. That used to be a debate, nowadays its just a fact.
I'm actually a little confused about the fact that MMA traditionally cites 4 "pillars," boxing, wrestling, grappling, and kickboxing. Kickboxing, as far as I know, includes punching. I've even read that kickboxing is _mostly_ punching. Any idea why boxing is its own separate "pillar" from kickboxing?
what facts he's just forcing mma down our throats nothing more, we can just as well spin this around by saying kickboxing is just hard style karate, wrestling is just primitive judo and grappling/jiu-jitsu is just limited japanese jiu jitsu that only focusses on the ground ...
This is a really wonderful breakdown of what we're doing in the martial arts. I particularly appreciate your comments about trying to bring elements into a tradition as a way of saving a tradition. I have been an artist painting in a fairly traditional mode. I have constantly listened to people whining about other modes of making things - it's lazy, it's pointless, it's a dumb approach, the old ways are better, blah blah blah. As you say, you might as well talk to the wall. Accept what you do for what it is. If that doesn't give you enough, go to the other style and live it up. I did karate and liked the katas as a challenge and now do jiu jitsu and love the chess like challenges. They don't do what the other does and that's fine. Thank you for this breakdown
You are 100% correct. The truth hurts, but it will set you free. Ultimately in a street fight, one's preference in a specific style of martial arts is just that, preference. What you need in real life besides diligent training, is situational awareness. Remember, there are No rules in a street fight. It's survival of the fittest. There's always someone bigger, faster or stronger than you.
I am a martial artist and there are many things that I agree with and disagree but for the most part I would first like to say you are a very good man who understands what he is doing and saying. To be honest people who practice martial arts don’t train it as they should and take it seriously probably from many factors and especially over the years there are many changes with everything. The martial arts I practice is a system of martial arts which would include everything you can think of to breathing teqniques all the way to grappling moves. Lastly lots of martial arts are business and if they even have any useful things it will probably be taught later on.
I trained in Japanese Jiu Jitsu with some kick boxing in my training routine. I trained hard at the dojo for 3 days a week and trained every other day with my girlfriend, we were only 16 - 20 when we were together. She was my sensei’s daughter. So my sensei used to give me a real hard time in training. We went out to a few bars one night when a group of very drunk guys decided to make offensive comments to my girlfriend. She is gorgeous by the way and she will take down any guy no matter how big he was. They surrounded us and all I can say it was over in less then five minutes. My girlfriend ended up doing most of the work, she was a black belt and I was just a brown belt. But god damn she can fight. I’m 51 now and I still train in jiu jitsu and kick-boxing but when you’re in your teens with a girlfriend that’s a 9 out 10 in looks and a perfect physique, and then throw in a black belt in Jiu jitsu, she was perfection. I still often think about her. There’s nothing more sexy than a woman who can take care of herself when the odds are stacked against us.
@@RoniloJrLawas yeah, that’s what I thought. Damn. Once one of the idiots grabbed her ass, the first thing on my mind was “that’s brave”. Not about my retaliation, but because I knew of her skill. Before I could put my beer down the first guy was down. I went to join in and take over. But it became clear she didn’t need my help. We ran into a cab right after that and started laughing. I asked her if she thought she seriously hurt those guys. Her answer was “he grabbed my ass and there’s one guy in the world that is allowed to grab her ass” If people ask me what we trained in we would say Jiu Jitsu because if we said Jishukan Ryu no one heard of it. Jishukan is the pre 1865 Japanese martial arts. It was pure self defence. I added kick boxing to my Jishukan so then I added an offensive element to my self defence training. And the video is right about the pre 1865 Japanese fighting style. It’s very effective, very efficient in getting your attacker to the ground as fast as possible to either have them submit, or to break an arm, leg or wrist to take your attacker out of action completely. Or if you’re in a life death situation, you can then apply a blow to the head, neck and completely incapacitate your attacker. The kick boxing routine really adds to it when you want to go on the offensive. It really worked well for us way back then and has pulled me out of a few real dicey situations since then.
@@kyle88ss I’m not going to argue with you about wether this happened or not because, You were not there when it did happen. You’re opinion is yours, that’s not my problem. I really don’t need to say anything else. So I’ll leave it at that.
@@thedeathlyhallows8087 well I believe you because what do you gain from lying? However I understand why others may think its bs since men are naturally stronger it doesn't really matter if a girl knows MA or not same vice versa men still win but that doesnt mean losing is impossible. Hope you still with her you got a keeper.
In my younger days I wrestled in high school, took judo and hapkido while I was in the service, and did take some bjj when I was older. I worked as a security guard, and also got into some fights in my younger days when out drinking etc. But to be honest, I feel like the best martial art I learned was my four years of high school wrestling. Judo also was good because I learned chokes and locks, and I also could mix in my wrestling with it. I was never a big striker but could still throw a punch, but it was my wrestling and judo that really did work out in the streets in real fighting situations.
This has made me think. I love martial arts. I started with karate when I was young and did well but eventually quit. I did kickboxing but didn't really enjoy it as much. Muay Thai seemed too intense. Eventually I found something called KAPAP and it's so simple and contains all 3 of those elements. I started doing karate again because I want to finish what I started.
Great stuff here. I've heard this expressed as the three ranges; striking, clinching and grappling. To be a complete martial artist, one really needs to know how to fight in all three ranges. You can call it whatever you want; but every single martial art that has any kind of live competition always throws the curriculum completely out of the window and turns into kickboxing the second they step on the mat.
A lot of people are giving their opinions on street fight s, but how many have actually been on one , the one thing that martial arts can not teach you is aggressiveness and confidence. You eighther have it or you don't have it, that can actually make the difference on the outcome of a fight
30 years in: my choices - RenBuKai - Kali & Escrima, Krav Maga. I have trained many other styles as well & I am glad I did. I started training my grandson when he was 3. He is 23 now & training MMA. I am very impressed with his training.
I like how you said, "Anderson silva is so good at fighting he can make (x) work". I studied Tae Kwon DO for 10 year from 5 to 15 and I know it is the laughing stock of the martial arts world. I have gotten a lot of respect from people who understand that it is very versatile and for as long as I have had a defense martial arts mind set. I have been able to make things work for me successfully with either talent or skill.
I stared martial arts in 1999. I trained Arnes (Stick Fighting), Kickboxing, JKD, some Silat, and BJJ. I was super resistant to starting BJJ and I was getting pretty good at the kickboxing I was getting taken down and tapped. I loved training stick, trapping, and some cool Silat stuff. But in the end I alway wound up using Kickboxing and BJJ. I unfortunately quit in 2003, but started back in Jan 2020, then added Judo to my current skill set. All I really do now is BJJ 3-4 days a week (no gi) and Judo ones a week. Judo is rough on my 42 year old body. I am a (3) striped blue belt in BJJ right now. I have some rusty spots with my kickboxing but I have been sparing with some amateur MMA fighters and I do pretty well with them on my feet.
Good points. That is why I like Kajukenbo, it isn't a martial art in the traditional sense, but it is a "self-defense system". The way I have been taught it for the past few decades is that it is always morphing and incorporating fighting styles or techniques that work for each practitioner and each region. For example, my Kaju school teaches heavy on the Kung Fu and Judo side of the system and incorporates a lot of environmental possibilities e.g., using throws into walls or hard ground. Whereas the same vein of Kaju down in San Jose trains with more close-range weaponry because of the number of muggings they have there in the city. Also, at one point, we had a guy in our dojo with ALS in a wheelchair learning some Kaju, very cool. At first it seems like a predominately "Hard-style" system but look closer it is very fluid and focused on balance. The other thing I will say about Kaju is that there is a large focus on training one's mind and physical abilities to help overall with the acceptance of experiencing physical pain. However, I will say, the Jujitsu taught in Kaju, while very effective in it's own way, is Japanese and doesn't provide a lot of training for groundwork like grappling. So, I have been training BJJ as well. Thanks for the video 🙏
I disagree 100%. Tai Chi works. Go "play" with Waysun Liao or Gary Clyman. You will ache for weeks while barely break a sweat. The late Vince Black was another a incredible expert fighter and healer.
I studied tang Soo do in highschool, and actually made it to the finals at the all valley under 18 karate tournament..but my final opponent was this kid from Reseda named Daniel....I really don't want to talk about this. 😩
Enjoyed the video, but don't quite understand the difference between Wrestling and Grappling. I did a light search of the net and no-one explained it well. In your view, what is the difference?
I had a friend back in high school back in the 80's him and his brother were black belts in Tae-kwon-do , they were instructors assistants, been in the martial arts since they were kids, all these different degrees of black belts they were. Used to fly in mid air, looked they belonged in kung-fu movies, one day he got into a scrap, all that tae-kwon went out the window, the fight went straight-ghetto I did not see not one martial arts move, fight ended when they finally broke it up, it was 50-50, I will stick the motto "you may know karate, but I know chingazos"
Fortunately my Sensei was my older brother; a former Chicano gang member who had reformed his way through taking lessons with Guro Daniel Inosanto. He (my older brother) would come home from lessons so motivated that he would drag me into the backyard to continue working out what he had learned. I was taught how to throw the Bruce Lee straight lead punch in 5th grade. It took 2-years of daily training to finally get it. His best lesson, though, was after all my forms were nice and clean to his satisfaction he would then come at me with how it actually happened on the streets. Sucker punches, biting, spitting, multiple opponents, street weapons, etc. Only then will you know if your JKD works or not. It never failed me. By the time I was a sophomore in high school I was already, by rumor and reputation, rated as one of the toughest people on campus...and, I was a band Twinkie the whole time!! Hahahaha!!
I studied Tae Kwon Do for years and have had about a dozen street fights. I never lost. One on one was a joke. I fought 8-1 and won with only being hit once. Our instructor's family escaped north Korea after the war and they all taught old school Tae Kwon Do. We sparred like it was real fights almost everyday, and Saturdays we would fight for 1-2 hours straight, opponent after opponent and up to 3 opponents at a time, it was brutal. We never trained sport Tae Kwon Do. My instructor had calluses on the side of his hand and his knuckles and was a total badass. He could kick you with such power and control he would cause a shockwave to travel through your skin of your body without hurting you. It all depends on how your trained.
@@jasondykstra2835 Sounds a lot like my TKD instructor growing up. He was from Korea as well as his master. I didn’t even know there was a sport side until I was way older. He taught more than just kicks, we learned elbows, punches, throws too
A lot of blackbelts have never had a street fight or suffered a black eye and a bust nose, or put over a pool table and had a beating with a pool ball. My black belt holds my pants up. You cannot mess with the street fighters.
There should be a saying in martial arts: "There will always be a superior fighter, but never a superior style."
Well that would be nice but that's categorically false. Wing chun is demonstrably inferior to BJJ for combat purposes.
It's that there are styles that are way less effective in actual combat than others. Take aikido for example. Against other aikido practitioners and people that don't train anything at all you'll have very limited success. Meanwhile the same person could train in an effective martial art and have great success instead like muay thai or bjj in the same situation.
Except Pai Mai's style
@M.W.K totally agree with you. In MMA we have seen wrestlers being beaten by strikers of different fighting styles and vice versa for all fighting styles. It doesn't take away from the fighting style but the skill of the fighter being able to face and conquer the challenge the other fighter imposes
@infiniterer287W ing Chun and southern kung fu in general do not train people to utilize power punches. I trained in Wutan Kung Fu, Long Fist, Bung Bu and Seven Star Praying Mantis, and Baji Fist. Even my late sifu David Schenk said that all defense boils down to strength, power, and agility, aka being fit; including the mind.
I’ve trained for over 30 years, studying boxing, kickboxing,traditional Karate, Akido and systema. What I’ve learnt; the effectiveness is based on the circumstances and the physical environment you are in. In the Dojo/gym you will usually have mats and be practicing with people of a similar skill set. On the street, in a crowd, you are up against the unknown. You may not be wearing suitable clothing or footwear, and you may have multiple unknown attackers. On the street my skills/knowledge has taught me to be aware and to have confidence. Fear is your friend if you control it as it keeps you alert. Once in my early twenties, l was leaving a school gym late at night where I had been teaching kickboxing. Two very large lads were obviously going to mug me in the narrow dimly lit alley way. I sensed it, as they rushed towards me I threw my bag for the guy in front to catch. He caught it with both hands, I instinctively punched him in the chin. He fell to the floor unconscious. I picked up my bag, while the other chap tended to his friend. No one taught me that move, but my body/mind automatically figured out the best solution to live! Stay fit, alert and safe.
How would you rate Karate? I've got a 2 year old and i'm wondering what to put him in when he becomes of age to begin....I understand which arts are best, but also maybe not all arts will hook and keep a kid.....Which art do you think is best for a new child to get into?
@@toptensviewerschoice5204 I started my sons with boxing it teaches how to position your feet to maintain balance and power. Boxing is tough and requires discipline, which breeds respect.
@@jeffreid7750 did they enjoy it to stick with it?
@@toptensviewerschoice5204 The lads started when they were at primary school and lost interest after twelve months. And started kickboxing, but again lost interest and moved onto football. However, all three have just started boxing again mainly for fitness.
@@swiftcee266 I agree Krav Maga is a great system, I’ve trained in Systema which is similar. But when against weapons you are best to be aware and avoid. For example yesterday, my family and I left a restaurant and a group of lads came around the corner. I noticed, the one had a long solid object down the side of his tracksuit bottoms. I suspect it was a machete. Situation awareness saves lives.
Kickboxing, wrestling, or grappling. I do understand. Thank you.
And motivation
I am a 4th degree black belt in American Kenpo Karate and I agree with much of what you have to say. I also trained in Taekwondo, Tang Soo Do, Shotokan Karate, Ninpo, Aikido and Freestyle Wrestling. Yes, it ultimately does come to the three styles you state. Learning that is what the various styles do. In Kenpo we put them into long and short forms. That is just to learn, in a fight we all utilize what we need and when we need it. The firms just aid in training. American Kenpo was quite effective in its time because it blended several styles. Ed Parker our founding father so to say had a black belt in judo and was a golden gloves boxer. He studied karate in Japan and then sort of blended the best frim those styles. He taught us to get uo close and personal with our strikes which is more like boxing/kickboxing. Ge incorporated joint locks and throws from Judo. Its weakness is on the ground and where wrestling and Jujitsu come in. Id always wanted to learn BJJ, but no schools were around. In my childhood and teens I bounced from style to style as my parents moved, but in late teens and adulthood i focused on American Kenpo Karate and a touch of Hawaiian Kempo as to get good at one. I taught Kenpo Karate for years FOR FREE to kids at the church as to keep martial arts alive. This area had a lot of poverty and many kids would not have ever had the chance to learn. Unfortunately covid sgut down the program and i ended up getting covid and ruining my lungs. I'm looking into opening up the karate school again, bit letting my oldest son be lead teacher. He and i joined a BJJ gym. I am slowly learning with limits as ove got bad lungs, 5 herniated discs and arthritis from breaking my back. Im only learning BJJ as it was a lifetime desire ever since seeing the rise of the Gracie brothers in the 80s and 90s. I don't expect to ever be goid at it, but will learn what i can. My eldest on the other hand is picking it up incredibly fast and is wanting to move on to MMA. Am i upset? Absolute not!!!! He doesn't want to destroy my Kenpo Karate, no.....instrad he wants to being BJJ and MMA into my studio. He plans to teach traditional (gi) some nights and no-gi modern other nights. A true martial artist doesn't resist improvement, but embraces utilizing what works.
Thanks for sharing that was great to read.
How much destructive is COVID?
Good stuff brother ! Great to have another generarion learn the art form(s) too. Im 67, in pain everyday but continue to train Amerucan Kenpo and Small Circle Jujitsu. Ref: Castoldi Jujitsu.
Hope I never have a street fight, but I am very prepared as I guess you and son are also. Keep training brother. Brad
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Matsumura was taught at ca.p Courtney Okinawa back 1975
I did Judo from 10 and Jiu-jitsu when I reached 16 until my early 20's then stopped. Never had a real fight until I was in my early 30's, I hate violence. Three people attacked a friend of mine and I felt I had to do something. So I stepped in. No idea what happened, it was so quick but my early training must have taken over. I ended up taking on all three and winning. I am now in nearly 60 and have not had to use it again and hope I never have to ever again. I hate fighting but it's nice to know if I have to I can.
@@michigan3690 I doubt it as there is no way we would fight. Why would we? I have interest in fighting anyone so why would I want to fight him and why would he what to fight me. Your post isn pointless mate 🙂
@@rufus1346 it depends on who's doing it was my valid point
I took on 4 guys at night, one sucker punched me for the time.
Judo's pretty effective because you do it live against a resisting, non cooperative opponent.
By Jiu Jitsu do ypu mean the Japanese kind or brazillian jiu jitsu?
I spent years looking for the perfect most complete art only to realise that it doesn’t exist. If you're serious about combat you have to mix the arts, after all this is how MMA came about.
Have you tried the Genbukan
its not the art its the fighter
To shin do
Try Kalaripayattu, state of kerala, India 🇮🇳
@@fazares True, but some styles are better than others, by a LONG way
You're absolutely correct! It's also true that no matter how many forms you learn or how complicated they get, and real life situation, the simplest moves are the best. In a real fight or in a ring everyone uses the most basic techniques.
true but not all have the same basic instinctive techniques, repetition creates the reflexes. In a street situation a sport fighter will naturally guard deflect jab hook uppercut or other simple and effective combo, and the most basic for a martial artist or self defense well trained could be a faint to ease the situation open handed get close blow a spearfist in the throat, groin or or tiger slap in the ear. Those kind of stuff not very difficult for both fighters because its their natural move of all year in the gym cage, or dojo or else...
A lot of people are giving their opinions on street fight s, but how many have actually been on one ,
the one thing that martial arts can not teach you is aggressiveness and confidence. You eighther have it or you don't have it, that can actually make the difference on the outcome of a fight
You can learn that @@topgun6674
S.ooth, natural flowing.
I started MMA later in life, but my wrestling background gave me a distinct advantage over 95% of the members who only started at BJJ. The tricky part was incorporating strkes into my wrestling Arsenal.
I learned silat from a dear family friend who was in the Indonesian army. He was the most brutal teacher I've ever had, but his most valuable lesson was "a fight you avoid is a fight you already won". He prepared me for the worst by never holding back when sparring. Lots of bruises, cuts, bleeding and tears, but it was all worth it. Doesn't matter what you practice, but make sure it is geared towards real, actual fighting, and not just going through the motions to get the next level.
The best forms of silat are supposed to be really good at dealing with knife attacks.
I understand where this guy is coming from regarding training for sport fighting can eventually help with a real street self defense situation also.
If you train to move in a crisp quick and powerful way punching ,elbows etc.its going to benefit you in a real fight.
Their are so many aspects to fighting economy of motion,energy awareness,rhythm of movement.
Their are to many to name,but a person who is fit and has actual punching power and has worked with focus mitts and different boxing equipment and has strong fighting spirit should care well against an attacker who isn't trained and is less fit.
@@brittscott4673 the greatest lesson of combat sports is to train yourself to get hit in the face and keep going. Something not many martial arts are able to teach because there is limited contact when sparring. It is essential for your combat readiness to be aware of what happens in your body and mind when you're hit, and to learn to react and keep the fight going.
I'm still in school, and I used to always get picked on because of my height, and that was understandable, because most asians are short and most caucasians are tall.
My father knew silat, and he knew I knew he knew silat, so I remember asking him if he could teach me silat, for self defence. My father's way of training me was 'rough', a bit like what you said.
But it sure as hell did work. No one wanted to bully me after i laid some kid down on the floor. If you know what I mean.
And I completely agree with what your teacher said, about "a fight you avoid is a fight you already won," because it's true. It saves either one, or both, or more if there is any, from getting hurt.
Bruce Lee is the best modern martial artist. no one teaches the way in these days. the only thing people train is fighting these days. now as long as you brag and boast of your skill your a great fighter but that is your biggest weakness when the unexpected takes you out because your blind to your own reality. 30 years ago if you were an expert in your art nobody knew it because it wasent a thing to brag about it and your giving up your best advantage.
@@dsolo3250 Bragging would also make people hate you because noone likes arrogant people.
I agree. I trained in multiple styles. Tried to take the best of each. But my favorite was track and field.🙂
Usain bolt got nothing on you
Very good !
You have mastered the first part of "Sayo Nachi" 🤭😁💪🏻
I myself practice the art of "Runyourassoff"
Ah yes the master of RunFu has no need of fight.
until you get boxed in and have nowhere to go lol
It’s the “Your Mom” listed in the in-between martial arts at 5:04 . You’re HILARIOUS Bro. 😂
While on Okunawa from 1971-2972 I started taking Okinawan Shorin Ryu Matsumura.
It is a close quarters combat system. I have found that it works for self defense. I do not challenge others to show off. At 73 now I still keep up with the basic forms for exercise. Thank you for your video.
Dang! You we’re in Okinawa for 1001 years?! I bet you got real good!
That's some very advanced techniques, you trained for a thousand years but only aged 50 years since then, impressive! 😅
This is incredible. Time moves fast and simultaneously slow in Okinawa.
1975 camp courtney,matsumura, almost like perfect advanced hand to hand right?
I saw you included my mom's fighting art in your list at 5:03. I would argue that her style is devastatingly effective, and it does not include striking, takedowns or joint locks. But after a 3 minute conflict, you will need a week of recovery from emotional impacts , guilt takedowns and humiliation locks. Understand, it takes years to master her art, and she will keep some techniques to herself until you are "ready".
Lemme know if you want her to stop by your gym. 😉
So what is her art?
@@MrImperativeozart of the slipper
LOL, so true. The damage your mother can do when they hurl insists and manipulations is off the charts. It takes most men out of the game.
Eddie Murphy explained this in his skit 40 years ago , shoe throwing Mama . You can run and hide but that shoe is going to find you , it will track your arse down and whap .
lol! emotional blackmail and double binds have won many a fight!
I have combined three arts and they are surprisingly successful, Wrestling, Boxing and Gymnastics. People sleep on the power of gymnastics but it is brutal training that only wrestling comes close too. When i was young it gave me insane take down defence and mobility, my boxing was defence heavy and gymnastics made my clinch very effective, I could move out of the way of any strike, I could block most punches and if we clinched my balance and dynamic strength would be a complete surprise, it is an unstoppable combo i think that I stumbled into by just by accident having trained all three at the same time. I believe GSP speaks very highly of gymnastics and how it improved his clinch and defence.
A ninja is essentially a gymnast
gymnastics is very underrated. id even throw in dance/ballet
So, you’re basically a male cheerleader😏
You aren't an 80s baby are you? As they say nothing new under the sun.. ruclips.net/video/yMQmBupWJXI/видео.htmlsi=y-vkf4Queezyw_G0
Yeah, people underestimate the role of strength and overall fitness
This is probably the most balanced simplistic video of seen on your no matter what style you practice they all break down to those three elements at the end of the day❤
Excellent commentary! Well thought out. You give us all food for thought. Thank you. 🥋
One thing I noticed while jumping between martial arts is that what you're saying about the the 3 style is true, the biggest difference between them all comes down to how they execute these movements which ultimately affects how they look. Boxing for example, uses hip rotation, core strength, upperbody and footwork to generate their punching power, which is why they have the most number of non-linear punches compared to other martial arts. Wing Chun uses spinal structure, core, some hip rotation and elbow(punching from the elbow) to generate their short range power but not long range, so their punch is very linear. Bajiquan tries to generate maximize their power using multiple body movement at the same time, so the same punch and elbow can look completely different depending on which movement you use and omit to generate power.
Kenpo was the first MA that I really pursued and immediately found that it had holes. Luckily, my instructor was of the same opinion and I found this out one day when he watched me spar and said, "You'd probably do really well with boxing. Wanna learn it?" Turned out he was a silver gloves champ and once a month we started doing a boxing class, and that turned into twice a month. Loved it.
Kenpo is really more about sword combat
Brenda Fickel, there are moves in Kenpo that are strikes that do work. I used to fight in sparring tournaments, and best other people because I used old school back fists and front and side kicks. Surprisingly, it is the basics of Kenpo that work. The advanced stuff you would never be able to pull off in a real fight. If I front kick someone before they get to me then I can run away usually. I trained under Joe palanzo, who was Ed Parker's predecessor.
@@brendafilkel6533 I think your confusing Kenpo (Hawaiian Martial Art) to Kendo - Japanese Sword Art.
An interesting and useful categoriation.
One could probably come up with similar meta categories for armed combat.
You could also classify specific techniques from various martial arts along dimensions of complexity and/or "ease of use", required strength, and percentage of effectiveness (i.e., probablity the technique will have a desired effect) and to borough from Dungeons and Dragons -- how many "damage points" is a technique worth.
I’m a practitioner in Kajukenbo and I do agree on the point that you will not pull “technique 12” in the street. I know 24+ forms and I’ve never used any of them in the street. The thing is, these forms are supposed to give you a concept to use those techniques or an idea, if that makes sense. I’ll say an example: I was taught a defense against a rear naked choke. It was very technical. Few years later, someone put me in a rear naked choke and I ended up not doing each step I was taught. I took concepts from about 5 other techniques and defended myself.
I went full circle. I started with Tang Soo Do as a kid. Then started doing Judo and BJJ in college, then boxing and Muay Thai. Ultimately ended up at an MMA gym saying “I wish I knew all this when I was a kid doing Tang Soo Do.” Fast forward to me in my 40s and I’m like “man, I just miss training Tang Soo Do.” Kind of like you said, I think I just like the traditional side of it.
I’d come to your gym, but you’d just beat me up…I agree with your video.
@Joshua M. all good, I don’t think it’s rude. Generally speaking it is, but similar to BJJ there is no lack of training with full resistance. Every class you have live training where you’re trying your hardest to not get thrown while the other person is trying their hardest to throw you.
Replace TSD with wrestling you'll be fine.
Tang may refer to the Chinese Dynasty but the katas you do in TSD are from Shotokan karate thanks to the Japanese occupation.
If he is in Montreal I could go to his gym, but I will be using a mix of fighting styles mixed, which I use and adapt to. No one single style could I concieve of or pull off or even know what that would feel like. A chain punch I do for paratic to do fast straight jabs. Not to fight with. As well if I did do that in a real fight I am not going to chase him around doing them. If he is on the ground two fast straight chain punches might find his nose or throat though. To redirect one to the hands I might be setting you up to break out a knee cap with a kick. That is how it is used. I trap, I grapple, I strike, and yes choke. I even stumped a two foot jump straight down on a person once nearly ending them-period. So at 44 I still gladly meetup with youtubers anytime for a round or two.
As a practitioner of Japanese jujitsu and kenpo karate, this is by far the best explanation I have ever heard regarding different martial arts. I’m lucky as both of my instructors explained that even though we have set techniques we practice, it is also the movements we try to ingrain into our memory. We may not use the entire particular technique we practiced but if an opening occurs where we can use a portion of that technique then it’s a win. Fantastic video, this is the first I’ve heard of your channel but I will definitely start listening to more.
Do some vids I’ll sub
Very well and calmly presented. Critical yet not rude about it. Much enjoyed and I feel very informed.
I'm a hobbyist writer who's tried to understand these concepts for a couple of years now. Thank you so much for compiling my thoughts so clearly for me. It finally makes sense!
This video here is a great example of what I been doing. I did Shotokan Karate for 5 years and recently been doing MMA involving Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, BJJ, and Judo. I took what worked for me from the times I learned Shotokan Karate like the stance, the Karate Blitz, and chambering kicks to make myself a more well rounded fighter mixing in my Karate with the other style…. Something like Lyoto Machida’s 💪
That's the way to do it
I did it backwards. I learned muy Thai first but I like side kicks and blitzes like machida so I figured out how to set them up and use them against Thai/ kick boxer guys. They aren't used to it so it lands often.
My base martial art was TKD. My parents put me in it as a kid; I trained it for 30+ years. I’ve also trained BJJ, aikido, hapkido, Japanese jujutsu, kali, Muy Thai, iaido / battojutsu, and on. Name it, I’ve trained it.
That said, I’m a former corrections officer. I have been the first guy in on riots. I’ve been attacked. I’ve gone hands-on so many times it all blends together. I could not tell you the number of physical altercations and restraints I’ve been in. Whatever martial art you train? It’s not enough. It’s incomplete. You absolutely need to train in any / every martial art that you can, you take what works for YOU, and discard the rest. In the end, you build a system that is customized to you, your temperament, your physical abilities and skill sets. That is the best martial art, or I should say combative system for you. NAO fite me! You’ll lose. Just kidding. I’m old, beat up, and just go for my .357 these days ;)
I am a U.S Marine who grew up in Jujutsu and Xinyi Quan, and I agree fully. if it exists, learn it. better to have a toolbox than just a hammer.
OK Batman. 😉
Viet Vo Dao, Engolo, Turon? Most people can't name more than half a dozen Martial Arts, here you named all the same ones popularised just about everywhere around the world, the "pop arts" so to speak, I named 3 (6) arts, did you study any of them? In Vietnam alone there are hundreds of Martial Arts (claimed 500+, almost each village has it's own!), so anyone who claims to do any martial art I can name will come unstuck pretty quickly, especially if they only have a narrow idea of the breadth & depth of martial arts in cultures around the world...
@@XxNinsunexX hello sir respectfully to your profession but i didn't get it. You mean to say that we should learn every martial art
@@agnelquadros1726 absolutely. Every system that is available to you, you should learn.
Nice breakdown. I agree with your views presented in this video.
Traditional Japanese Jujitsu incorporates strikes, locks, kicks, throws, chokes and grappling.
We also learned how to focus breath or blood into vital areas to prevent damage from impacts, strikes or chokes.
I'm a boxer, so I already have my punching. I'm lacking the kicking, the grappling and the wrestling. What martial arts would you advise me for that? It would be cool if I could fill those gapes with only two more martial arts. Is it possible?
I have been doing a very old school traditional form of Tiger Claw Kung Fu for almost 30 years. I've been teaching for half that time and find myself completely agreeing with everything you're saying 100%! In fact I've been saying a version of this for years. I've been in hundreds if not thousands of fights in sparing and tournament and every single one of them has been a version of kickboxing. Much of our system is kickboxing with some grappling. The most successful member of our system had 47 wins and in 1 loss and was a 19 title champion Paul Vizzio in kickboxing. I've watched dozen of Kung Fu tournaments with styles ranging from Wing Chun to Choy Le Fut to Eagle Claw to Hung Ga and the fights are all versions of kickboxing. Do some of our style specific techniques come into play? Yes, sometimes but it's all kickboxing/grappling in the end. Even our 86 year old Grandmaster says all styles are basically the same, the difference is you. You make the system great, the system will not make you great.
Well I know Dim Mak and it was not mentioned. The Count was my personal instructor.
Kickboxing is a version of kung fu not the other way.
I have a question, does iron fist training work?
@@santicheeks1106 Yes, if done slowly and very gradually. I would say it's essential to any martial art. It works on creating micro fractures that when they heal the bone becomes much stronger and able to withstand the pressures of striking. However, if done too hard too fast you can permanently damage the nerves in your hand. Also certain Chinese liniments help in the healing process.
@nighthawk292 I used Dim Mak accidentally by doing a fast spinning back fist while sparring with my brother. I struck my brother very quick, yet lightly by control to the right side of his neck. What happened was it quickly sent blood up to my brothers right brain from his carterid artery. This caused him to be completely paralyzed on the left side of his body, like an artificial stroke. He says it was the most pain he ever had until he broke his rib whole long line fishing. Fortunately, he fully recovered after about fifteen minutes. Later, I learned it is a Dim Mak move.
Agree. My Tae Kwon Do instructor always was humble towards other martial arts and fighting techniques. Because of that he taught us to study other styles and be open to learn new things even if the dojo was focused on TWD. So we learned a little about wrestling, hapkido, boxing to name a few, because we understood that strict TWD was not going to be enough in every scenario.
Tkd isn’t good for self defence
@@chorto4038 I humbly disagree...though I would say that TDK alone doesn't cover everything you could need, and I don't think any martial arts does, which is why MMA is titled as such.
Our class is often rolling and falling, and doing things that aren't strictly TKD for exactly this reason. Non specific style can legitimately cover every possible scenario.
@@FirehammerGames kudo better
TKD definitely is not the "go to" for actual self defense but if you open yourself for a spinning wheel kick to the neck.....you're fooked.
I adore this. Never seen you before, but I'm subscribing because of this video.
So I trained in Hapkido, but the way that I was trained honestly matches your mentality. We didn't learn crazy ass technique chains and "if someone does this, here is how you react." Instead we learned a plethora of individual, effective techniques to be applied situationally. Say someone grabs the front of your shirt and is threatening you. Here are 15 different ways to handle that scenario. Figure out what works for you, what works for the individual situation, chain techniques as you like or as you feel necessary, using whatever level of force you deem necessary for the situation. I've watched a lot of Hapkido videos online and though, "huh...that's not how we did it," so I get that my Dojang was one of the outliers when it comes to how we trained. But my Master was of a similar mindset. He didn't worry about flashy techniques and crazy combos. It's saved me a couple of times, and I'm not ashamed to say that I'm not super proficient.
Tai chi is different from the push hands form which is used in tournaments. The meditative style is not for combat, but for slow practice and introspection. I didn’t know this either until I learned about Josh Waitzkin.
let them stay ignorant. combat oriented tai chi changed me into a totally different kind of fighter. long as they think we're weak theyll never see it coming.
As someone who practices several martial arts, including aikido (and its variants), uechi ryu, and kickboxing, I completely agree with everything said here. He provided a pretty nice breakdown of basically every martial art there is.
I'm sorry but I find this explanation too vague, too general in it's point... Striking, Wrestling, Grappling.... (But in what scenario..).... Here are some realistic points I'd like to add:
1) PHYSICAL SIZE.. (Would a 4'10" lady, no matter how well trained in those three categories, defeat someone as big and strong like Eddie Hall or Brian Shaw??)
2) AGE (Ali and Tyson were unstoppable during their prime, but not as they grew older..)
3) CHARACHTER (Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get hit.. How do you react when you get hit??..)
4) MASTERY (Bruce Lee said, the best definition of mastery is when the moves become AUTOMATIC.. Fear, Panic, Confusion will come when someone bigger is attacking you.. It is important for the technique to be AUTOMATIC so that you'd be able to fight even if FEAR dominates your mind.)
5) REQUIREMENTS FOR A GOOD STRIKE:
-Speed
-Power
-Toughness of your striking hand
-Accuracy
-Reaction time
This was actually a very intelligent formulation of martial arts as a whole. Not many people can articulate it in such a well-organized way. Brovo!
Actually is "Bravo"
In my street fighting classes we practice all of these things. Mostly sparring practice. Standing striking, standing grappling, take downs and various types of ground work
Good points! Out in the streets--totally different environment: unpredictable, fast, violent, and unstructured--gotta prepare for that type of environment, in which one will be striking, grappling, and kicking--probably all at once!
This is a great video. I've done TKD and MMA for 15 years and I can understand when other martial artists get in their feeling about this topic. Keep up the great work on this content!
Well said. I took 5 years of wing chun. Even got a tattoo. Took one Muay Thai class and quickly realized WC didn't hold up. Now I've moved onto Muay Thai, boxing and bjj. I do see elemens of wing Chun in each, but as you said, it's better to incorporate those movements into the other styles than to keep training wing Chun and try to make it work.
Wing Chun as it is commonly taught is like TKD. Effectiveness varies wildly due to training drills, sparring, etc.
Checkout a Wing Chun teacher by the name of Alan Orr, he teaches a modern form of wing Chun and has students who compete in MMA.
Similar story, but I used to do JKD (lots of wing chun in it) then took a Muay Thai class and it blew me away, have been doing Muay Thai now for about 6 months and have improved a hell of a lot (and the an added bonus is the massive improvement in my overall fitness levels)
Went from aikido to boxing 20 years ago and never looked back.
Its not the Wing Chun that did not hold up . Its you that did not hold up.
Your argument is valid and I cannot debate you. You are humble too
That was one of the most interesting videos regarding martial arts I've seen in a while.
I entered Kenpo as a mid teenager. My instructor had a class after his class that taught a mix of things to survive in real fights. People going to jail and with a bounty on their head would join. You always have to have the right tool in your box. He didn't just teach unarmed combat, but a lot wasn't coming to a fight with a weapon. A lot of it was situational advice in how you can find one if needed or an escape plan.
so what would be the right tool in one's box then? also, they accept people going to jail and people with a bounty on them like no rejections whatsoever?
@Alkemyst: So what was the best style for a jail fight = TRUE no holds barred, where biting, eye gouging, groin strikes are all allowed???
@@davidchang8428 Tohei Sensei used to answer the question "what if they have a machine gun?" and he said: "If they aren't close enough to step inside, Run, but not away but at an angle to the side", seemed like a good metaphor.
@@kennethbolton951 zig zag pattern of running away and looking for good cover if possible. And get the heck out of there.
Here in the Philippines Kali's techniques is often used in street fights, so I can say It's effective in different kinds of fighting even with weapons or kickboxing
I retired from the 10th mountain div after 22 years and 6 combat tours.
We all trained in Kali for close combat situations using a knife.
I literally bet my life on Kali many times in those 6 years of kicking in doors and in-house conflicts,..at a range of 6 foot or less Kali was a far superior option than a m203 rifle with grenade launcher attachment.
Now retired I carry a small 4 inch bladed knife for personaal protection.
I'm sorry but I find this explanation too vague, too general in it's point... Striking, Wrestling, Grappling.... (But in what scenario..).... Here are some realistic points I'd like to add:
1) PHYSICAL SIZE.. (Would a 4'10" lady, no matter how well trained in those three categories, defeat someone as big and strong like Eddie Hall or Brian Shaw??)
2) AGE (Ali and Tyson were unstoppable during their prime, but not as they grew older..)
3) CHARACHTER (Tyson said, everyone has a plan until they get hit.. How do you react when you get hit??..)
4) MASTERY (Bruce Lee said, the best definition of mastery is when the moves become AUTOMATIC.. Fear, Panic, Confusion will come when someone bigger is attacking you.. It is important for the technique to be AUTOMATIC so that you'd be able to fight even if FEAR dominates your mind.)
5) REQUIREMENTS FOR A GOOD STRIKE:
-Speed
-Power
-Toughness of your striking hand
-Accuracy
-Reaction time
I disagree...most street fights used the red horse or tanduay technique.
@@edgabrielocay3376 basta may hawak ka..manila way.
elbow destruction.
There is a lot of wisdom in this video. I trained in Kempo, Tang Soo Do, and Hapkido for years. After years I found a gym that trained MMA style. I brought the strengths/elements of the martial art styles that I had studied for years and applied those in the MMA style of training.
Brilliant video, I was sceptical at the start, but with the definitions used I cannot fault the logic. *tips hat*
I have done a bunch of different martial arts over the years. My fighting style - what I have used in the security industry and in the street - takes little bits from all of them and combines it into something that works for my body and my instincts. I know enough ju-jitsu to defend against it and get up off the ground against most opponents.
Unsurprisingly, this is my advice to everyone. Learn a whole lot of techniques, then work out what works for you.
Exactly the same here mate. 29 years training, done various styles, some great, some bs. I’ve been in combat situations both, in the street, sport, and then in security for just over a decade. I will add, those different scenarios have led me to take different approaches
I started my martial arts with Taekwondo in elementary and practiced that for 3 years but was really concerned about the, in my opinion, over-emphasis on flashy kicks. I got into a scuffle with a friend's older brother, nothing serious, and he floored my the moment I lifted my foot off the ground. That was a hell of a shock for me. Moved to another state in middle school and started again at a Goju-Ryu karate dojo. This place was cool because it didn't just teach you the traditional karate stuff but also went into jiu-jitsu and judo and occasionally brought in some wrestlers who vigorously taught me how to sprawl, double-leg take-down, and control my center of gravity. By high school I started mixing in some boxing with my stand-up karate strikes and felt pretty comfortable with how I could handle situations. I only got into 2 serious fights in school and both were won thanks to getting out of a football tackle and following through my punches (each only took 2 punches). I'm not the strongest or best and wasn't at all at my dojo, but just knowing those things really saved my ass from being humiliated. I still liked Taekwondo as it did help me with flexibility and performance once I started weightlifting; it just never ended up helpful in fighting.
Long story short. School organized a day where students could try out diff sports by local clubs. Judo it was. Me 15, blue belt in JJ, ended up sparring a junior national champ TKD. For fun ofc. Took 1min . We became best friends and he also started practicing JJ at our dojo. RIP Youri
@@Astrodicted I'm sorry he died. Glad you have the memories.
@@DrNotEmpathetic Thx. Everywhere he went (tournaments etc) he was praised for how amazing his kicks wr etc. That 1min broke his reality. TKD is beautiful but once you step in they are so lost, literally.
@@Astrodicted Former muay thai coach here. Trained many TKD athletes who tried MT. They all have the same reaction when they find a real combat art.
In high school, we had this kid by the nickname Lil Van Damme. He was a Taekwondo practitioner (old school, mid 90-s WTF I think) and was very prolific at knocking the crap out of hoodlums in the streets with flashy high kicks. Everyone kinda admired him for that because everyone had seen wrestlers and boxers being efficient in the streets, but it was the first guy we knew who had a track record of pulling off knockout after knockout with his high kicks. I, one the other hand, also dabbled in Taekwondo, but when the time came to put it to the test I assumed my stance and the other kid simply kicked me to the groin with all his might. To this day I remember being stunned and angry: "This is unfair! This wouldn't fly in a competition", hahaha
Tai chi has many great benefits for real fighting. The ability to sense telegraphs and off-balances in your opponents it a huge advantage.
Great video!!
Thanks man! Great channel on your end!
Great video. In our black belt test for Tang Soo Do, there was a self defense portion. I'm 6'6" and 330lbs. I simply used my size street and fighting techniques to easily beat the 2nd and third degree instructors. Our lead instructor always stresses that TSD is an art, fighting is something entirely different.
Firstly, one thing a lot of martial artists ignore is the fact that size DOES matter. There are no secret techniques to beat a bigger, stronger opponent, you just have to be a good enough fighter that you outdo the size disparity.
And secondly, yes, I agree, TSD and similar styles are an art form - a method of self expression, and that’s totally okay. Not everything HAS to be about fighting. Just be honest
Any "normal" person would be crazy to go at u toe to toe. That's why weapons and ambush were created.
@@acyutanandadas1326 Why? You train weapons, use them.
@@CombatSelfDefense weapons
@@CombatSelfDefense nah bjj is made for small people
I won golden gloves joined Hapkido because I did not want to continue knocking people out. I found the martial artist lacked footwork so I could easily knock them out when I wanted. It was hard to train when there was an obvious lack in a basic skill. But I played along although my partners knew I had a major advantage. They thought I was just really good when it was just a skill that could be learned just was not being trained there. I think it is a good idea to learn basic skills then bounce around to learn street skills that actually work in the street. Never go to the ground in the street unless you know you are alone or you may get kicked in the head by someone!
Well said sir
You should try wrestling or jiujitsu if you dont want to knock people out
Okay buddy, mr. Tough guy. Train in Mauy Thai the Science of 8 limbs. I knock you out and I'm 52. You are a LOUDMOUTH.
@@micker9830 its hundreds of millions of street fight videos where it doesnt go to the ground. why would i go to the ground on hard ass dirty concrete *on purpose* ?
@@micker9830 .....you still need basic stand up. It only takes a Second to get Knocked out before any Wrestling or Grappling can be utilized.
Man Id love toI come to your gym because you have a lot of cool stuff there and your content is actually pretty cool!
Sad part is I actually left that gym a long time ago.
I think that's its important to remember why you train your specific martial art. I train japanese jiu-jutsu because I like it as a form of exercise. It doesn't matter to me if it is the most effective form of self-defense or not, since that's not the reason why I started training it. Same applies to other martial arts. I did Aikido back in the day, again mainly for the exercise. I stopped Aikido, not because it wasn't effective for self-defense, but because I wasn't enjoying it very much.
I thought I was gonna hate this, but I actually agree. I think this is why you have to train the fundamentals of whatever category your style is in if you want any realistic chance of efficacy. Case in point, I've trained FMA for years, but we had boxers in our gym to give fundamental boxing training...which made how we trained some of the empty hand techniques far better. Most styles are just the icing on the cake of their corresponding fundamentals. Liked and subscribed!
Nail on the head there. You gotta know your stand up, clinch, and ground game. Your respective style can add flavor and strategy to those things, but without the universal fundamentals, you're just repeating choreography.
Yeah the things that make empty-handed arnis better is boxing. They box all the time every where in Filipino communities but a lot of modern guros don’t spar.
Kali and boxing do have it s similar traits. And they are not that far off. I have read somewhere some of the best Filipino boxers do train the Kali footwork.
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Cool now show me how good your kung fu is
This video gets a 10 out of 10. I became a black belt in Tae Kwon Do when I was 14. Been in 2 actual street fights since then and realized quickly I was also fighting the pavement beside the other person. The 1st fight ended up wrestling the other person, on the pavement, having him submit just bf I was about to put my elbow through his nose. He also had about 80lbs on me, same height. The 2nd fight I was much more precise with my kicks and punches and knocked him out right bf the cops got there. Grappling and wrestling are essential along with strikes bc if you don't settle it fast ending up on the ground is inevitable.
My brother is a black belt and then there's 2 more of us, a Brown and me at Red (as kids that is). My first major fight on the street getting jumped I was 16 and I quickly found myself on the floor. Luckily I was able to use the pavement as my brace and kick the daylights out of the balls of the guy who just punched me and when he crouched his head down in pain I let his chin have some of that too. He was out that fight and it saved me having those distancing kicks after I got up, but I was totally out of ideas on the floor. An my punches were just wild teenage hooks lol. A couple years later I buried myself into an MMA concept school, before that was a popular term.
TKD helped me with balance, judging distance and moving in and out fast but my hands were really lacking in my young days because of that style.
I don't think that anybody with actual martial arts experience, who is familiar with different styles could be mad at you, because this is simple, distilled truth!
How do these three styles breakdown further into offense and defense?
As Lao tzu once said
He who conquers others is wise
He who conquers himself is enlightened
He who conquers the bathroom is relieved
Silat and ESCRIMA AND KALI
Bruce Lee said anyone with a year or two of wrestling and boxing could waste any martial artist
freestyle-greco roman wrestling-dad was golden glove boxer-learned some martial art kicks from friends….incorporating them is very effective…u are 100% correct
When I was teaching, I always said that what I am teaching you has two sides: The Art and The Martial Application. We are learning about both.
Nice video! I myself have a Kyokushin brown belt, and while I do enjoy wearing gi I did not choose my art because of that. I choose it because of the whole package that no other art seems to have.
The brutal training with bare knuckle punches, the kyokushin mindset and conditioning, the samurai and Japanese philosophy, the beautiful and powerful katas with meditation and breathing techniques, the Japanese culture, philosophy and respect, and also the grading system which gives a linear and clear goal of something to always improve and learn, you can in fact spent your whole life on kyokushin but still never be able to reach 10th dan, which is what I love.
And also by not allowing head punches you keep your brain cells in the long run, so it's a good combination of everything. I love that a lot of people in my dojo are 40-60 year olds who still train and fight hard, there is no age to the art which is beautiful.
Kyokushin is awesome.
Many fighting legends had derived from kyokushin Karate, Ossu!!
I first started Kyokushin when I was 11 (56yo now). My club was well established and had national heavyweight champ in competition. I also studied Kendo later in teens under shihan who was one of the first men to successfully complete the 100 man kumite in Japan (John Jarvis). I still call it the meathead style. Affectionately, because it's true. Finesse? Ah no, that's not Mas Oyama's thing. You are so right about mindset tho', and the idea of mind conditioning through physical conditioning. BUT all that knuckle and floor stuff, muscle and grit over finesse, conditioning and hard movements really wears on the body of old practitioners. It's a good base to learn what traditioonal "martial art" means and feels like but it's very limited in the breadth of things there are out there to learn.
Osu!!!
Thank you for this! It made so much sense! You're either Kicking, punching, or grappling. Helps me narrow down what I wanna learn.
Yeah, it is funny how we practice all these things but in a fight it’s like you said, strike, grapple, wrestle. In a street fight almost all of that goes out the window. It’s just a scrap.
@@TimRHillard perfectly said even as the freak boasted 4th degree black belt so what can't beat a seasoned street fighter OK you boastful Freak!!!
Rob, you're so correct in every area in martial arts. You struck a chord with me.
I can’t let myself believe that - I’m cocky enough as is haha
I 100% agree. It all comes down to the individual artist and how much work he puts into it.
Great video, Dominic Izzo put me onto you. My take on this is era's, I'm 55, back when I was in My late teens, early 20's, 90% of people couldn't fight. Those guys that did some amateur boxing & Karate back then were the fighters, won almost every street fight they were in. When UFC first started with the Gracies, they won hands down, as all the traditional Martial artists didn't know how to defend against the take down. As UFC evolved, mixed martial arts took over from BJJ, because of the obvious. Now here we are today, everybody knows somebody that does mixed martial arts, so there's a lot more then 10% of guys out there that can fight, so b4 when you could get away with ya Wing Chun, now you have to be excellent at the art, for it to even have a chance of working. Another aspect is fitness, most traditional martial artists are unfit, most guys that practice MMA are super fit, no contest straight away, your getting ya arse kicked period. I did Judo, Karate & wing chun as a kid, sucked at them all, why, cause some of us are born to fight regardless of style, I wasn't. Good luck with the channel 🤜🤛
@@paulbarclay4114 where did I say Karate is useless, I said I sucked at it, no where in that paragraph do I say Karate is useless.
Its always been many style available. Its just with todays world we can see and have access to all.
@@seanwebb4291 Yeah, I think that visibility is huge. Before UFC, I don’t recall that televised martial arts tournaments were much of a thing. I guess there was _some_ stuff, there was TKD at the summer Olympics, and of course boxing & wrestling were big… but it wasn’t until UFC that *lots* of laypeople were watching martial arts in bars and at parties and talking with each other about what they were seeing. I think it convinced a lot of folks that martial arts weren’t just action movie BS.
Dominic Izzo?? LOL, is he still around? He doesn't do real WING CHUN. He uses modified Wing Chun and mixes it with other crap because that is the only way it will work!! Only real TRADITIONAL WING CHUN works completely and needs no modification because it is COMPLETE as a system!
@@mightymeatmonstahi spot on , izzo is fake , I have practiced wing chun for many a year , I know it works through experience,
What would you say is the top 3 Martial arts to learn and master? Jiujitsu? Boxing? And Krav? I’m new to this.
I appreciate this video, it’s very informative.
I actively train Muay Thai/Muay Chaiya and Jiu Jitsu but have also trained wing chun(still practice 30 minutes daily) and I totally agree with your comment regarding Silva. I've also watched a video of him on a wooden dummy and he wasn't using standard wing chun as I know it and at one point literally looked like he was slapping it open handed. Wing chun is very useful but it is important to think about the context. First, it isn't a "practical art" and instead it is a "conceptual art" and it is a "dead art" vs a "living art" meaning the tech is set by some source that can not be question and the system doesn't grow(unlike Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu where whatever works within the rules wins). Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu are examples of practical arts. Wing Chun, and most martial arts with forms, are conceptual and some more or less on a spectrum between pure concept and some mixture of concept and practical use. Wing Chun forms are almost entirely pure concepts and the concepts are useful but imho only if you already know how to fight. Just as an example, and a relevant example imho, no one punches in a real fight like you see people punch a speed bag. I know several techs on the speed bag that are actually hand fighting where I'm using it to clear their guard as a setup for some other strike. Wing chun is basically a bunch concepts like speed bag drills and you either have to have someone who knows how to use it practically in a real situation against a skilled opponent or just figure it out on your own.
BJJ is one of the most rigid arts not adapting Ive seen ,It is a cult at least they war it is taught in my city
Valid points man, I saw how susceptible boxers were to leg kicks and decided to learn me some muay thai. I still spar in my boxing stance though and get the crap kicked outta my legs every week but I just pretend it doesn't hurt and hope they get bored. They don't get bored.
Very interesting. Subscribed
Very informative.
I did what you were talking about.. I got my black belt in karate when i was 17 way way back in the day… but I noticed at my school the training didn’t seem to be super effective.. so I started training in my garage then I started going to a boxing gym. And noticed how they trained.. bag work
Pad work… everything geared toward combat. and then I signed up for a kickboxing fight.. After that l quit traditional karate. But I didn’t drop the style I just took what I loved about karate and incorporated into kickboxing.. so, my spinning kicks and spinning backfist. I appreciate the style I trained in because It gave me a unique kickboxing style but i was over the gi and traditional bowing in and out of a gym and saying “yes sensei!” I loved going in with my gym shorts and getting some good training in.
So what essentially what your saying is that Karate does works.
@@lawrencedroman it definitely does.. but I just had a preference for non traditional training.. and I liked the boxing punches and defense.. essentially I fell in love with kickboxing. But I have a lot of respect for my karate background.
Japanese Karate focus on Budo or martial way of life which means it is not actually focus on a combative side of Karate but on more spiritual enlightenment but back to the old days in Okinawa they did the jutsu part or the concept based Karate but now even in Okinawa they also starting to become a more like Japanese way of teaching Karate but there are some masters there teaching the old ways of Karate which is concept based or the "why" and the Japanese Karate focuses on the "how" that's why their kihon is far not so useful in actual combat.
You see, Karate is design to kill or disable the person it is not actually non-consensual combat so the engagement is more closer and sneaky. And the shocking thing about Okinawan Karate is they also trained in weapons because Karate and Kobudo are partners. You don't wanna fight someone who's having a weapon ofcourse. Maybe you should re-explore Karate more and you will find some I suggest focus first on kihon why they're like that. Karate is not always a strike and it will level up your mma if you do mma.😊✊
@@Brandon123456magine i studied shotokan karate for 7 years. Got my black belt. I respect my time in it but I really fell in love with kickboxing..
@@Bfolks84 yeah sure btw I'm Shotokan too and I like mma also. 😁❤
I would say that wrestling is a form of grappling, so there are really only two fighting styles, striking and grappling.
You are 100% correct. There are ONLY two: Striking and Grappling. 👍
Yeah that immediately jump at me as point too. To label these as separate things is redundancy.
U can always bite too if ur like me 😂
Facts 💯
I think when he says grappling he means something like judo. Wrestling is a different animal
As someone who has trained in various styles i used to be a traditionalist always thought the traditional styles were the best but i suppose you truly do have a point and you gave me something to think about and explore so thank you 😊
You are very right, what most people underestimate is no matter how good you are there’s still the risk of the lucky punch, reaction time plays a big roll
Back in graduate school I had a friend who had been in the Soviet military, where he had trained in martial arts . During training he had broken fingers and ribs, but the important thing was they practiced to kill at full speed and did not pull punches. When he entered martial arts tournaments here he destroyed just about everybody because they simply weren't used to getting hit for real.
My Sensei was in the Soviet army. He says they fought for food all the time.
My training came from a WWII veteran in mid 70's. Trench Fighting was what he taught me, deadly tactics.
That's an extremely significant point that you made. Tai Chi Chuan teaches that sparring actually teaches you non-self defense. There is a different energy phenomenon that takes place when you strike someone with the intent of doing real damage in a real fight.
Lack of control is the mark of an amateur. And most martial arts tournaments are not full contact so I smell poetic licence in your story here.
@ian7033 control is great, but if you are a college student who has never experienced actually being hit, it's a different story. People get knocked out in tournaments
I've been saying that strikes, locks (joint locks and strangulation etc.), and takedowns (throws, trips, tackles etc.) are what comprise all effective fighting techniques for a long time. This is spot on.
I enjoyed the mental gymnastics displayed in this video. You're talking about styles of fighting versus an "organized", technique-driven martial arts, but then you mix up various ideologies. Ultimately, there are two kinds of fighters. (Sorry, hate to do this "either/or" argument, but it works here.) Either the fighter goes through life picking up various techniques that seem to work, and that he/she enjoys employing, OR that fighter goes to an established style and practices that style's techniques exclusively. It's a person's general philosophy that drives their preference, and THAT, in turn, is based on their personality and life experiences. I'll go further -- even within a given style, different practitioners will focus on their favorite techniques within that style, minimizing (or completely ignoring) techniques that they don't like (or find difficult to utilize). Personally, I think that the more experience one has in fighting, the more one tends to gravitate toward quick, destructive, highly EFFECTIVE techniques that will probably rarely be employed, if ever. The other stuff is just for exercise and enjoyment. Oh, and as far as Tai Chi Chuan --- at one time, undeniably, in an era of lethal combat, when it was not uncommon for fighters to die or be permanently injured in tournaments of that period, Tai Chi Chuan reigned as a style. It was widely acknowledged (in China) as a lethal and EFFECTIVE style. That was a long, long time ago, however. It seems that the learning curve involved to master its complexities and wide assortment of techniques, AND utilize them effectively, is simply beyond the patience or determination of most Americans today. But, this is all just my 2¢.
Kickboxing, wrestling, grappling. Great breakdown. UFC/MMA integrated them, and demonstrated how they are all useful. That used to be a debate, nowadays its just a fact.
I'm actually a little confused about the fact that MMA traditionally cites 4 "pillars," boxing, wrestling, grappling, and kickboxing. Kickboxing, as far as I know, includes punching. I've even read that kickboxing is _mostly_ punching. Any idea why boxing is its own separate "pillar" from kickboxing?
what facts he's just forcing mma down our throats nothing more, we can just as well spin this around by saying kickboxing is just hard style karate, wrestling is just primitive judo and grappling/jiu-jitsu is just limited japanese jiu jitsu that only focusses on the ground ...
This is a really wonderful breakdown of what we're doing in the martial arts. I particularly appreciate your comments about trying to bring elements into a tradition as a way of saving a tradition. I have been an artist painting in a fairly traditional mode. I have constantly listened to people whining about other modes of making things - it's lazy, it's pointless, it's a dumb approach, the old ways are better, blah blah blah. As you say, you might as well talk to the wall. Accept what you do for what it is. If that doesn't give you enough, go to the other style and live it up. I did karate and liked the katas as a challenge and now do jiu jitsu and love the chess like challenges. They don't do what the other does and that's fine. Thank you for this breakdown
“Never fear the man who knows one thousand moves, fear the man that only know one move but has practiced it one thousand times.”
You are 100% correct. The truth hurts, but it will set you free. Ultimately in a street fight, one's preference in a specific style of martial arts is just that, preference. What you need in real life besides diligent training, is situational awareness. Remember, there are No rules in a street fight. It's survival of the fittest. There's always someone bigger, faster or stronger than you.
I am a martial artist and there are many things that I agree with and disagree but for the most part I would first like to say you are a very good man who understands what he is doing and saying. To be honest people who practice martial arts don’t train it as they should and take it seriously probably from many factors and especially over the years there are many changes with everything. The martial arts I practice is a system of martial arts which would include everything you can think of to breathing teqniques all the way to grappling moves. Lastly lots of martial arts are business and if they even have any useful things it will probably be taught later on.
I trained in Japanese Jiu Jitsu with some kick boxing in my training routine. I trained hard at the dojo for 3 days a week and trained every other day with my girlfriend, we were only 16 - 20 when we were together. She was my sensei’s daughter. So my sensei used to give me a real hard time in training.
We went out to a few bars one night when a group of very drunk guys decided to make offensive comments to my girlfriend. She is gorgeous by the way and she will take down any guy no matter how big he was.
They surrounded us and all I can say it was over in less then five minutes.
My girlfriend ended up doing most of the work, she was a black belt and I was just a brown belt. But god damn she can fight. I’m 51 now and I still train in jiu jitsu and kick-boxing but when you’re in your teens with a girlfriend that’s a 9 out 10 in looks and a perfect physique, and then throw in a black belt in Jiu jitsu, she was perfection. I still often think about her. There’s nothing more sexy than a woman who can take care of herself when the odds are stacked against us.
Damn
@@RoniloJrLawas yeah, that’s what I thought. Damn. Once one of the idiots grabbed her ass, the first thing on my mind was “that’s brave”.
Not about my retaliation, but because I knew of her skill.
Before I could put my beer down the first guy was down. I went to join in and take over. But it became clear she didn’t need my help.
We ran into a cab right after that and started laughing. I asked her if she thought she seriously hurt those guys. Her answer was “he grabbed my ass and there’s one guy in the world that is allowed to grab her ass”
If people ask me what we trained in we would say Jiu Jitsu because if we said Jishukan Ryu no one heard of it.
Jishukan is the pre 1865 Japanese martial arts. It was pure self defence.
I added kick boxing to my Jishukan so then I added an offensive element to my self defence training.
And the video is right about the pre 1865 Japanese fighting style.
It’s very effective, very efficient in getting your attacker to the ground as fast as possible to either have them submit, or to break an arm, leg or wrist to take your attacker out of action completely. Or if you’re in a life death situation, you can then apply a blow to the head, neck and completely incapacitate your attacker. The kick boxing routine really adds to it when you want to go on the offensive.
It really worked well for us way back then and has pulled me out of a few real dicey situations since then.
I'll take thing that never happened for $500
@@kyle88ss I’m not going to argue with you about wether this happened or not because,
You were not there when it did happen.
You’re opinion is yours, that’s not my problem. I really don’t need to say anything else.
So I’ll leave it at that.
@@thedeathlyhallows8087 well I believe you because what do you gain from lying? However I understand why others may think its bs since men are naturally stronger it doesn't really matter if a girl knows MA or not same vice versa men still win but that doesnt mean losing is impossible. Hope you still with her you got a keeper.
In my younger days I wrestled in high school, took judo and hapkido while I was in the service, and did take some bjj when I was older. I worked as a security guard, and also got into some fights in my younger days when out drinking etc. But to be honest, I feel like the best martial art I learned was my four years of high school wrestling. Judo also was good because I learned chokes and locks, and I also could mix in my wrestling with it. I was never a big striker but could still throw a punch, but it was my wrestling and judo that really did work out in the streets in real fighting situations.
Wrestling is a very good 'martial art' and many people say the training is the hardest training they've ever done. It's limited, but very effective.
Did it work against multiple attackers?
Wrestling, saved my ass a few times
one of my favorite vids...salute to you bro...word
All Disciplines, are great. It's the person behind it that makes it effective
This has made me think. I love martial arts. I started with karate when I was young and did well but eventually quit. I did kickboxing but didn't really enjoy it as much. Muay Thai seemed too intense. Eventually I found something called KAPAP and it's so simple and contains all 3 of those elements. I started doing karate again because I want to finish what I started.
Great stuff here. I've heard this expressed as the three ranges; striking, clinching and grappling. To be a complete martial artist, one really needs to know how to fight in all three ranges. You can call it whatever you want; but every single martial art that has any kind of live competition always throws the curriculum completely out of the window and turns into kickboxing the second they step on the mat.
Yep!
you are correct, but most street fights i saw began with a headlock.
I'd say the last bit of this comment is underrated*
A lot of people are giving their opinions on street fight s, but how many have actually been on one ,
the one thing that martial arts can not teach you is aggressiveness and confidence. You eighther have it or you don't have it, that can actually make the difference on the outcome of a fight
30 years in: my choices - RenBuKai - Kali & Escrima, Krav Maga. I have trained many other styles as well & I am glad I did. I started training my grandson when he was 3. He is 23 now & training MMA. I am very impressed with his training.
I like how you said, "Anderson silva is so good at fighting he can make (x) work". I studied Tae Kwon DO for 10 year from 5 to 15 and I know it is the laughing stock of the martial arts world. I have gotten a lot of respect from people who understand that it is very versatile and for as long as I have had a defense martial arts mind set. I have been able to make things work for me successfully with either talent or skill.
I stared martial arts in 1999. I trained Arnes (Stick Fighting), Kickboxing, JKD, some Silat, and BJJ. I was super resistant to starting BJJ and I was getting pretty good at the kickboxing I was getting taken down and tapped. I loved training stick, trapping, and some cool Silat stuff. But in the end I alway wound up using Kickboxing and BJJ. I unfortunately quit in 2003, but started back in Jan 2020, then added Judo to my current skill set. All I really do now is BJJ 3-4 days a week (no gi) and Judo ones a week. Judo is rough on my 42 year old body. I am a (3) striped blue belt in BJJ right now. I have some rusty spots with my kickboxing but I have been sparing with some amateur MMA fighters and I do pretty well with them on my feet.
18 years kickboxing and still going, also still doing Judo at 43. My body loves it. Age is only a number. The key is not to stop.
Where would you sort in nerv punches and eye pokes?
Good points. That is why I like Kajukenbo, it isn't a martial art in the traditional sense, but it is a "self-defense system". The way I have been taught it for the past few decades is that it is always morphing and incorporating fighting styles or techniques that work for each practitioner and each region. For example, my Kaju school teaches heavy on the Kung Fu and Judo side of the system and incorporates a lot of environmental possibilities e.g., using throws into walls or hard ground. Whereas the same vein of Kaju down in San Jose trains with more close-range weaponry because of the number of muggings they have there in the city. Also, at one point, we had a guy in our dojo with ALS in a wheelchair learning some Kaju, very cool. At first it seems like a predominately "Hard-style" system but look closer it is very fluid and focused on balance. The other thing I will say about Kaju is that there is a large focus on training one's mind and physical abilities to help overall with the acceptance of experiencing physical pain.
However, I will say, the Jujitsu taught in Kaju, while very effective in it's own way, is Japanese and doesn't provide a lot of training for groundwork like grappling. So, I have been training BJJ as well. Thanks for the video 🙏
Many years of Kajukenbo i agree it has all 3
I disagree 100%. Tai Chi works. Go "play" with Waysun Liao or Gary Clyman. You will ache for weeks while barely break a sweat. The late Vince Black was another a incredible expert fighter and healer.
I studied tang Soo do in highschool, and actually made it to the finals at the all valley under 18 karate tournament..but my final opponent was this kid from Reseda named Daniel....I really don't want to talk about this. 😩
Upvoted for the sheer honesty of "to rack up the view time on this video". Amongst other things.
I'll take it.
Enjoyed the video, but don't quite understand the difference between Wrestling and Grappling. I did a light search of the net and no-one explained it well. In your view, what is the difference?
I had a friend back in high school back in the 80's him and his brother were black belts in Tae-kwon-do , they were instructors assistants, been in the martial arts since they were kids, all these different degrees of black belts they were. Used to fly in mid air, looked they belonged in kung-fu movies, one day he got into a scrap, all that tae-kwon went out the window, the fight went straight-ghetto I did not see not one martial arts move, fight ended when they finally broke it up, it was 50-50, I will stick the motto "you may know karate, but I know chingazos"
Fortunately my Sensei was my older brother; a former Chicano gang member who had reformed his way through taking lessons with Guro Daniel Inosanto. He (my older brother) would come home from lessons so motivated that he would drag me into the backyard to continue working out what he had learned. I was taught how to throw the Bruce Lee straight lead punch in 5th grade. It took 2-years of daily training to finally get it. His best lesson, though, was after all my forms were nice and clean to his satisfaction he would then come at me with how it actually happened on the streets. Sucker punches, biting, spitting, multiple opponents, street weapons, etc. Only then will you know if your JKD works or not. It never failed me. By the time I was a sophomore in high school I was already, by rumor and reputation, rated as one of the toughest people on campus...and, I was a band Twinkie the whole time!! Hahahaha!!
He prob did Taekwondo for sport over self defence.
I studied Tae Kwon Do for years and have had about a dozen street fights. I never lost. One on one was a joke. I fought 8-1 and won with only being hit once. Our instructor's family escaped north Korea after the war and they all taught old school Tae Kwon Do. We sparred like it was real fights almost everyday, and Saturdays we would fight for 1-2 hours straight, opponent after opponent and up to 3 opponents at a time, it was brutal. We never trained sport Tae Kwon Do. My instructor had calluses on the side of his hand and his knuckles and was a total badass. He could kick you with such power and control he would cause a shockwave to travel through your skin of your body without hurting you. It all depends on how your trained.
@@jasondykstra2835 Sounds a lot like my TKD instructor growing up. He was from Korea as well as his master. I didn’t even know there was a sport side until I was way older. He taught more than just kicks, we learned elbows, punches, throws too
A lot of blackbelts have never had a street fight or suffered a black eye and a bust nose, or put over a pool table and had a beating with a pool ball. My black belt holds my pants up. You cannot mess with the street fighters.