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  • @mattih
    @mattih  8 месяцев назад +48

    Commonnnn how good is 32 bit float????? NEVER EVER GET A HEART ATTACK FROM MESSING UP AUDIO

    • @EnriqueAviles
      @EnriqueAviles 8 месяцев назад

      Dude, I want to know more about the skates!!!

    • @mikes978
      @mikes978 8 месяцев назад

      Just as long as you don't forget to turn it on or leave it on and drain the battery 💀

    • @TwoTimesRmedia
      @TwoTimesRmedia 8 месяцев назад

      Can you please help me with the mic that you used on the zoom f3 ? Link please . Thanks

    • @ClaudioDesideriFilms
      @ClaudioDesideriFilms 8 месяцев назад

      Megacool! This opens up so many possibilities. The era of raw audio has started ❤

    • @jimgiraffe5253
      @jimgiraffe5253 8 месяцев назад

      you are my fav youtube lesbian

  • @LaneCarter
    @LaneCarter 8 месяцев назад +4

    The sun coming in right as you say "loud as you want" at 1:08, right after you compared 32 bit audio to raw video, is very satisfying.

  • @MotherDaughterDate
    @MotherDaughterDate 8 месяцев назад

    love the internal recording too, using them everywhere 💕

  • @dechangeman
    @dechangeman 8 месяцев назад

    Beautiful showcase :D Itreally sounds great

  • @GlenAndFriendsCooking
    @GlenAndFriendsCooking 8 месяцев назад +3

    Been using 32 bit float with the Tentacle Sync for years now.

  • @kaspergaram
    @kaspergaram 8 месяцев назад +2

    It's like RAW photos on steroids but with audio. And it's incredible. I hope it comes to all devices in the future. It's so good

  • @dannoringer
    @dannoringer 8 месяцев назад

    Yup. I agree. That's why I own a couple of 32 bit float recorders, and it does everything that you say that it does.. Nothing better.

  • @jasperdcullen
    @jasperdcullen 8 месяцев назад

    love this Matti!

  • @matthewpaquette
    @matthewpaquette 8 месяцев назад

    Woah that sounds great!

  • @john-wiggains
    @john-wiggains 8 месяцев назад

    I was ready for huge files. But he said not big files. That’s amazing

  • @KyleFosse
    @KyleFosse 8 месяцев назад +24

    Really exciting development for indie filmmakers with limited crews. Will also be an absolute lifesaver for wedding videographers. Thanks for the great breakdown!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад +3

      Exactly!!

    • @guywhitworth5764
      @guywhitworth5764 8 месяцев назад

      I was just thinking the exact same thing! I'm also curious about the Zoom X3 for wedding videographers. What are your thoughts?

    • @KyleFosse
      @KyleFosse 8 месяцев назад

      Not sure if you were asking me. Lol. Personally, I just use the RODE Wireless GO II, and they work fine. The Wireless PRO would be a nice upgrade, though. I keep a pretty minimal setup, so not having to worry about an extra recorder or audio interface is a big win for me. I record straight to camera for scratch audio, and capture WAV files inside the mics.@@guywhitworth5764

  • @BrianTheCameraGuy
    @BrianTheCameraGuy 8 месяцев назад

    I love my zoom f3. It makes audio so easy!! Totally worth the money and the 2 seconds to sync it up.

  • @TomKaszuba
    @TomKaszuba 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been using Tentacle Track E for years. It’s absolutely phenomenal and essentially bulletproof.

  • @AkibKhanVlogs
    @AkibKhanVlogs 8 месяцев назад

    32 bit float is amazing! I am enjoying recording in this format a ton!!

  • @MrShanePhoto
    @MrShanePhoto 7 месяцев назад

    This is awesome. I do a lot of corporate video interviews in my day job and going from a loud talker to a quiet talker and people of different heights is a pain as a one man crew. This completely solves the issue.

  • @davidivanyuk1
    @davidivanyuk1 8 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing video Matti . I use the zoom f2 it also has 32bit audio. Although I have to bring it up quite a bit but as you said there is no hissing. Thanks for the video. Love you Brother!

  • @BlaineWestropp1
    @BlaineWestropp1 8 месяцев назад +1

    32 bit float is the GOAT!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      Literally!

  • @MK-Creator
    @MK-Creator 8 месяцев назад +1

    Really enjoyed your video today 🤩 🇸🇪

  • @allenpayne9182
    @allenpayne9182 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice.- What camera / lens combo did you use for the outdoor shots? The shots look dope.

  • @cristiolino
    @cristiolino 8 месяцев назад

    fantastic rode 💪🏻

  • @TobiasHess_
    @TobiasHess_ 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love 32 Bit float 😍

  • @AQANVISUALS
    @AQANVISUALS 8 месяцев назад

    Need this jawn

  • @pauldigiacomo134
    @pauldigiacomo134 8 месяцев назад +1

    I have the Zoom F3 and the the Rode wireless pro kit. Both game changers. Absolutely insane.

  • @Corey.1go
    @Corey.1go 8 месяцев назад

    Love your videos bro❤❤❤

  • @nogasdash
    @nogasdash 8 месяцев назад

    They work great! I def have them and Initially I was wondering if not having negative db available would be an issue...but it hasnt been so Im happy!!!

  • @unquestionabletv
    @unquestionabletv 8 месяцев назад

    I got two sets of these Rode Wireless Pros for podcasts. I got some portable mic stands, and four Interview Go mic accessories and it’s super dope. I bring my MacBook Pro, so remote production for people, live streaming with auto gain, and then using the 32-bit float to create an edited Longform version, and clipping out shorts. Super handy.

  • @JaymesMedia
    @JaymesMedia 8 месяцев назад

    Definitely will buy these for next year wedding season

  • @ConnorWells
    @ConnorWells 8 месяцев назад +2

    Loving the long hair matti! Keep letting it ride! Also… I am loving the rode wireless pros they have been game changers for me when recording audio! 🤜🏻🤛🏻

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      Heck yea 🙌🏻

  • @temporaleffects
    @temporaleffects 8 месяцев назад

    Very cool! Have you compared file sizes between recordings captured with this vs. 16 or 24-bit recorders?

  • @KriittinenUusinta
    @KriittinenUusinta 8 месяцев назад

    I think you can also sync your F3 if you have the other rode transmitter free and feed audio out or headphone out to that. Good for interview where you can have one lav and one shotgun or supercardioid and have a sync track for both in camera.

  • @TomHubbard-fn9ch
    @TomHubbard-fn9ch 8 месяцев назад

    Love this! I have the rode go 2 mics. Maybe I should upgrade!!

  • @romandarobot7732
    @romandarobot7732 8 месяцев назад

    The handheld skating footage looked amazing! Are you using the PolarPro ND/mist combo on that? or is that a lut? (or both?!) Thanks for the great video!

  • @FreshSqueezedLightning
    @FreshSqueezedLightning 8 месяцев назад

    This has been around for almost 4 years, but good to see we're getting it in tiny recorders with lavs now

  • @johnbunani1341
    @johnbunani1341 8 месяцев назад +13

    It’s more like “HDR” audio versus “RAW” audio. Think of it like shooting log vs built-in pic styles in video. Much more of a dynamic range and a lot harder to clip as long as you’re using a 32-bit float supported microphone as well.

    • @stevenkralovec
      @stevenkralovec 8 месяцев назад +4

      Nope, the microphone doesn’t matter, just don’t overload the mic capsule with a higher SPL than it can handle. Every mic has a max SPL limitation. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @JoshuaDeanHealey
      @JoshuaDeanHealey 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@stevenkralovecthis

    • @shanehubbardcreator
      @shanehubbardcreator 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you for breaking this down! I didn’t understand the importance

  • @Rodacre
    @Rodacre 8 месяцев назад +7

    The 32 bit float is pretty sweet! I had a chance to try out the Rode NT1 Gen 5 which also has that available via the USB connection. It kinda blew my mind!

    • @Rodacre
      @Rodacre 8 месяцев назад +2

      Also - the new Focusrite audio interfaces have 32 bit float built in so you could use any mic and not clip!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад +1

      It’s wild!

  • @stuARTvideoproductions
    @stuARTvideoproductions 8 месяцев назад +2

    As a wedding videographer, this has been a game changer. I've using one connected to the output of the celebrant/DJ PA system for a line out - no testing the audio levels, just plug n play. - never had a clipped audio signal. Then I just put the other lapel on the groom or somewhere else as a back up. - recorded internally into the unit. Love it!

    • @EasyyokeFilms
      @EasyyokeFilms 8 месяцев назад +2

      Be careful though, you can still clip if the DJs output is more than +4db. The mixpre sound device can do +10. Curtis Judd has a video on this on his channel. So don’t be too reliant that you can’t ever clip again

    • @stuARTvideoproductions
      @stuARTvideoproductions 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@EasyyokeFilms thanks for the heads up, it hasn’t peaked for me yet so have been lucky. I always strap a small recorder to the actual mic as a back up :)

  • @REVIEWSONTHERUN
    @REVIEWSONTHERUN 8 месяцев назад

    Cool!✌️

  • @JumpStreetPodcast
    @JumpStreetPodcast 8 месяцев назад

    i love how you integrated skating into this video 🤣 awesome. but yea, 32bit float saved my ass a few times already on my tascam x8

  • @martykauffman
    @martykauffman 8 месяцев назад

    Oh that’s cool

  • @visufilms8084
    @visufilms8084 8 месяцев назад

    Matti you are a master at storytelling, totally hooked and might buy that 32 bit float for my wedding business. I was wondering about your backlit scenes where you talk to camera and have a small light behind you.... oh thats THE SUN and you still manage to expose or correct everything in a very beautiful way. How did the RAW footage look like? You just lifted your shadows?

  • @Lumin8Productions
    @Lumin8Productions 8 месяцев назад +15

    Well, the noise floor does raise as you increase the levels actually, so it’s still important to properly place the mic for your situation. And you still can’t be loud as you want because of the SPL (sound pressure level) of the mic you use, has its limits. But I do agree, it’s a phenomenal advancement !

    • @potatorigs2155
      @potatorigs2155 8 месяцев назад

      This people and rode miss this critical information they don't tell you the mic still has limits

    • @JGorg8
      @JGorg8 8 месяцев назад +2

      Exactly what he says in the video

    • @Lumin8Productions
      @Lumin8Productions 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@JGorg8at 1:40 he says no additional noise is added raising lower levels. So what do you mean ?
      I been using 32bit float for quite a while on several devices, noise floor raises just the same. 32bit float is just a 24bit file that auto shifts the gain for you, simply that.
      And for the mic clipping, I was just agreeing with it, but stating exactly what it is, sound pressure. Which can be managed a little with high SPL mics like a Shure MKE2 gold or Dpa.

    • @Lumin8Productions
      @Lumin8Productions 8 месяцев назад

      @@potatorigs2155lol true - it goes against the concept of the easier selling point - buy 32bit float and you have no worries right haha. If you know how to use it - understand the limitations it’s the best though !!! I love it.

    • @robertdouble559
      @robertdouble559 8 месяцев назад

      I was about to say something along these lines.

  • @HectorHLopez
    @HectorHLopez 8 месяцев назад

    Excited

  • @TundeEszlari
    @TundeEszlari 8 месяцев назад

    I love your videos.

  • @fulltimefreelance
    @fulltimefreelance 8 месяцев назад +2

    Sounds like a promising technology, but I have to say the audio seemed a bit weird in the video! I'm not sure if it was just that there was background music that was really really quiet, but it seemed kind of distorted to me?
    But for the record, I dont want to fight you! 😂

  • @Heroblast1
    @Heroblast1 8 месяцев назад

    Hey! That's pretty good.

  • @chinanomadic6879
    @chinanomadic6879 7 месяцев назад

    im interest about what cam use for this video it's just fantastic about the dynamic range 😊😊

  • @adamsolberg6529
    @adamsolberg6529 8 месяцев назад

    32 bit float has been out for a long time :-) the TENTACLE TRACK E are amazing!

  • @framewavemedia4831
    @framewavemedia4831 8 месяцев назад +2

    You need to ask your contacts at all these manufacturers when they will be putting 32bit float IN camera! Waiting for the day that sound devices licenses their preamps and we get that quality in camera. Until then gotta use a MixPre3 II.

  • @danielruff5693
    @danielruff5693 8 месяцев назад

    Hi, nice video!
    I'm pretty new to audio recording, so I do have one question. Why do you use still the zoom recorder, if you could just put the audio from the rode straight into the camera? What did I miss? :D

  • @AndrewLawlin
    @AndrewLawlin 8 месяцев назад

    There is a diffrence between line lvl vs mic lvl - for example with my zoom f3 it only has 32 bit but that's the only thing you have to make sure you don't mess up.
    Hooking up to a speaker.

  • @kissu_io
    @kissu_io 8 месяцев назад

    I'm not sure why 32b float is not yet available in any Rodecaster Pro/Duo (yet) but that will indeed be amazing when it will be! 🤩🤩

  • @RyanPutranto
    @RyanPutranto 8 месяцев назад +2

    seen a few videos on the new rode mic but didnt really understand it til this video i guess - very cool stuff

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      Trust it’s crazy!

  • @ignaskarlonas4783
    @ignaskarlonas4783 8 месяцев назад

    How do you get that orange-y, reddish chromatic abberation on the trees is it a preset? Davinvi effect?

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze 8 месяцев назад

    people, make sure the mic you are using to capture 32bit float has a high SPL because , the mic itself can still distort

  • @johnclay7644
    @johnclay7644 8 месяцев назад +1

    informative video.

  • @RupertShanks
    @RupertShanks 8 месяцев назад

    Tentacle audio recorders been doing this for ages!

  • @LucasRocksFilms
    @LucasRocksFilms 8 месяцев назад

    Do any modern video containers support 32bit float in order for the camera to do this internal or would the camera have to have a sidecar audio file to swap in post?

  • @RobRidesEMTB
    @RobRidesEMTB 8 месяцев назад

    Biggest issue with these isn’t the clipping - it’s the wireless range and the cut outs as a result. I’m pretty sure you had one at around 30 seconds too.

  • @CTOLARSSON
    @CTOLARSSON 8 месяцев назад

    Oh no. Now I feel bad. I’ve used this every day for 3 years haha. I should probably have mentioned it 😂😂😂
    MixPre-3 II
    and
    Tentacle Sync TRACK E Pocket Audio Recorder
    I can’t believe I knew something you didn’t but miracles happen haha.
    Great idea to have a feed into the camera also. Have to try that!

  • @JGorg8
    @JGorg8 8 месяцев назад

    It’s an awesome technology, but it’s been in gear since 2019 at least 😉. It took Rode years to jump on the bandwagon, but sound devices and zoom had recorders in 2019 with 32 bit float, and tentacle had it in lav recorders in ‘21.

  • @JeremyBanham
    @JeremyBanham 8 месяцев назад

    Sorry but I’m a bit unsure, will I be able to shout and/or whisper without clipping and just adjust it all in post?

  • @JohnPaulMusicUK
    @JohnPaulMusicUK 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is what I’ve been telling people in the world of Looping. With loop pedals Boss added 32-bit float which is SOOO important when you overdub lots of loops on top of one another. Glad the audio is in Rode Pro and Zoom and wonder when the first Camera with 32-bit float will be? Sony? Canon? Red? 🤣

  • @tjsn-4vision
    @tjsn-4vision 8 месяцев назад +1

    I need these Asap

  • @ZanderRound
    @ZanderRound 8 месяцев назад +6

    Apparently the new pocket 3 has 32 bit float audio 😮

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yea I feel like everything is gonna have it soon

    • @matthewpateofficial
      @matthewpateofficial 8 месяцев назад +2

      Does that mean the dji mic 2 are coming soon? 🧐

    • @nlcatsburg
      @nlcatsburg 8 месяцев назад

      Lol

  • @Pratagraph
    @Pratagraph 8 месяцев назад

    Can't wait till this is the norm. I have the Dji mic right now for some quality of life reasons. I hope Rode can add those features i need from the Dji mic or Dji adopts the 32-bit float!
    I shoot weddings a lot and this would be much better than auto levling for the praty and speeches.

    • @Pratagraph
      @Pratagraph 8 месяцев назад

      After doing some research the dji mic (2) they just released with the Dji pocket 3 has 32 bit float and is similar to the dji wireless mic! Excatly what I was looking for! Can't wait to get my hands on it!

  •  8 месяцев назад

    Dang that halation game is strong with this one :D

  • @timhamlinofficial
    @timhamlinofficial 8 месяцев назад

    I mean filmmakers have been running the zoom F3 F6 for a couple years now, although its bigger than this rode mic, its a great professional tool.

  • @AnthonyGugliotta
    @AnthonyGugliotta 8 месяцев назад +7

    Can confirm the RODE PRO and Zoom F3 are two very epic pieces of kit! 😋

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      Must haves 😊

  • @morganpage
    @morganpage 8 месяцев назад

    Bigger files but totally worth it. Still confused why camera companies didn’t use this earlier. 32bit has been around forever!

  • @charmcode
    @charmcode 8 месяцев назад

    Question when batteries run out on your skates do you have to walk back in socks for say 5 miles.😮

  • @AndoBobando
    @AndoBobando 8 месяцев назад

    Can this be used for shotgun mics?

  • @JakeOfAllTrades
    @JakeOfAllTrades 8 месяцев назад +2

    I absolutely love 32 bit float. I use the Rode mic pros on talent and the Zoom f3 to boom. I never have issues with audio anymore!

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад +1

      It’s tooooo gooood to be true yet it is trueeee

  • @DiveHard
    @DiveHard 8 месяцев назад

    The heart attack is real! This is legit the piece of kit I’ve been most excited about in years. I’ve messed up so many takes with my wireless go 2. It’s the worst feeling 😭

  • @stevenkralovec
    @stevenkralovec 8 месяцев назад +1

    6:42 tune in for the next episode when Matti cage matches someone 😂

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      lol

  • @michaelfigueroa.
    @michaelfigueroa. 8 месяцев назад

    Does Sony A7IV support 32bit float?

  • @rickiekm
    @rickiekm 8 месяцев назад

    So I'm confused. Where is the 32 bit float? Is it in a new version of the wireless mic, or the lav mic? Is it the recording on the wireless mic, or transmitted audio to your camera? Is it a new upload to the wireless mic, or do you have to buy a new mic?

    • @LucasRocksFilms
      @LucasRocksFilms 8 месяцев назад

      It's in the recorder. Shouldn't matter what mic you use.

  • @benjamin.kelley
    @benjamin.kelley 8 месяцев назад +5

    *You have to properly record the audio, though.*
    As a wedding filmmaker, trying to pick off audio from a Groom's mic (32 bit float or not) for a Bride's vows will still sound bad because it's too far away from her mouth (hence why I always hide a mic in the the bride's dress, if the dress allows). Doing something like this, then boosting in post will make the Groom's sniffles and rustles even louder and won't magically get rid of them, and can interrupt important things the Bride says in her vows.

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад +12

      Yep maybe just watch the whole video ;)

  • @mrdamiansingh
    @mrdamiansingh 8 месяцев назад

    What about a camera that records uncompressed audio?

  • @hellaclose
    @hellaclose 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds stupid but...Does it really not clip/peak? I have the Tascam x8 which boasts 32 bit float, but still clips... many other owners of the tascam x8 have this issue too.

  • @PhilFlock
    @PhilFlock 8 месяцев назад

    Uhhhhh. So those are new rode wire less mics yes?
    Better RUclips be paying on time this month.
    I need this!!

  • @Pics2FlicksDennis
    @Pics2FlicksDennis 8 месяцев назад

    Doesn't the Osmo Pocket 3's wireless transmitter allow for 32-bit float? The Pocket 3 camera will not save a 32-bit float file, but the transmitter can record 32-bit float internally.

  • @unotoli
    @unotoli 8 месяцев назад

    A "little" silly assumption that the "storage" can give you resolution, not the sensor. It's like having RAW in potato-cam.
    Mic types, amps - this is the magic. Check videos of 16vs24bit sound quality. And glasses look lil bit silly too (:

  • @leland6921
    @leland6921 8 месяцев назад

    How is no one talking about the halation in this video, how did you do this???

  • @TLFILMS
    @TLFILMS 8 месяцев назад

    3:45 you said everything here. No dice cameras don't handle 32

  • @MaxWildlifePhotographer
    @MaxWildlifePhotographer 8 месяцев назад

    Okay is it just me, or is Techtober really mild this year? I've been holding off on purchases for this month.

  • @chris20002000
    @chris20002000 8 месяцев назад

    2023? Tentacle have been crushing 32 bit float for years!

  • @benjaminbryer
    @benjaminbryer 7 месяцев назад

    Gosh.. I wish it could be in my Lumix s5ii... cause I recently switched from Sony... and I do not expect to upgrade anytime soon...:( Loved the vid.. especially the part.. LOUD NOISESS ahahahahaha

  • @thesideyardstudio
    @thesideyardstudio 8 месяцев назад

    as an audio engineer, hearing you say its like raw for audio is so funny:)

  • @HikingWithCooper
    @HikingWithCooper 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think it was the Zoom manual that said float 32 has upwards of 1,500db of dynamic range. The loudest theoretical noise on earth is only about half that. You'd have to use this on a different planet to clip it (not counting clipping the mic.)

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      Yep 😂 but the microphone will clip physically

    • @HikingWithCooper
      @HikingWithCooper 8 месяцев назад

      @@mattih Yeah. Supposedly there is a zoom mic that doesn’t clip. It’s this weird all in one mic / recorder.

  • @Marcus_Visbal
    @Marcus_Visbal 8 месяцев назад

    32-bit float has been around for a while

  • @DARKLYLIT
    @DARKLYLIT 8 месяцев назад

    For those who don't mind less features and are on more of a budget, the Zoom F2 has 32 bit float and is almost HALF the price of F3

  • @iConspicturez
    @iConspicturez 8 месяцев назад +2

    I dont think anyone will think otherwise matti😂. You dont have to fight anyone.

    • @mattih
      @mattih  8 месяцев назад

      I’m not a fighter

  • @ThatsOPV
    @ThatsOPV 8 месяцев назад

    thats ZOOM mic is IT

  • @bryguy9159
    @bryguy9159 8 месяцев назад

    Take a shot every time Matti says 32-bit float😂I have the Zoom F3 and it is incredible for filming weddings!

  • @tomcav
    @tomcav 8 месяцев назад

    32 bit float is awesome but what about those rollerblade skills... man I've always thought there should be electric rollerblades too haha

  • @NeilEvery
    @NeilEvery 8 месяцев назад

    Bit of a reach to say this is a 2023 innovation. RODE is actually super slow to the party on this one as MixPre, ZOOM, Tascam and TentacleSync have had 32-bit for, in some cases, years. RODE is the Canon of audio with their cripple hammer and slow iteration on their products.

  • @lch7145
    @lch7145 8 месяцев назад

    I think most people don’t actually understand what audio technicalities are… 32 bit is cool for gain, such that you worry less about clipping your audio if not adjusted accordingly to the subject or scenes, but this is not raw audio, there is a limit of this tradeoff between 32bit and 24bit, which is the noise floor that still exist and thus should be also checked. Actually I would worry more about sample rate, if you plan on mixing, such that your post processing works better, which is the case for dialogue isolation on RX or other softs that are becoming more common, such on premiere or resolve

  • @rxamusic
    @rxamusic 8 месяцев назад

    32 bit float has been around for a while.

  • @Alton_Roundtree
    @Alton_Roundtree 8 месяцев назад

    The next FX camera will have if not the sony a7siv

  • @CoZChristopher
    @CoZChristopher 8 месяцев назад

    For your type of content, because you're so active and get out a lot for your videos, this will be a big upgrade to your setup for sure!!! Nice brother, looking forward to seeing what you make with this. I'm thinking about the drone videos where you lost a drone, when you go blading with your brother, meet up with Pete on the go, etc.!! Cheers brother!!