Im all for someone who wants to conduct an interview to ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING for once, as opposed to the flurry of disgruntled bitter Demotards whose thinly veiled intent is to vent and spew and try to corner and entrap Dr. P, or go down in incompetent flames trying to get in the last jab. Many kudos for this woman who clearly isn't intimidated by his intellect, and didnt go into it set to boil over in rabid fervour once she found a trigger point, and who educated everyone with intelligent discourse. FIRST DR. J. INTERVIEW IVE SEEN YET to do this, anywhere.
It’s sad that all the comments are praising her for being reasonable because we’ve gotten so used to unreasonable behaviour and steering conversation away from reality
I really like this lady. Idk who she is, I bumped into this video by chance but she seems so genuinely interested but also highly educated and well spoken. It is just so nice to hear a calm conversation about charged topics.
I don’t hear an intelligent continuation of any one topic, I hear two similar minded individuals discussing a range of current event topics only 1-2 layers deep, without either establishing multiple viewpoints and parameters of the issues or even sticking to one specific issue.
I mention her gender because it is relevant to the context, given other instances of JBP being pretty clearly misconstrued by women. Example: Cathy Newman.
Steel Xcaliber how did I even do that? I pointed to him as an individual, stop being so triggered. I know you might think he belongs to your in-group and you should defend him, but we should criticize based on individual behavior, not on in- or out-group.
It's so oddly refreshing to hear JP have an actual discussion with a woman who actually listens, behaves fairly rationally and seeks to reach a common understanding through their conversation.
You're right, this wasn't a discussion, rather than just a conversation in which the two people just talk about a topic and agree on it. I get asknorway's point tho in that it is refreshing to finally see a calm conversation rather with a person who listens to JP rather than to not to.
I'm not trying to stir some stuff, but i do have to point out that OP did not say "with a person", he said "with a woman". And i understand where he comes from because I've seen many cringy so called "feminists" argue irrationally with him about basic concepts. I'll just close by saying it is always refreshing to see a calm conversation between two person, male or female, capable of listening to each other. JP made a lecture on that, and it's very interesting.
"Having never had the fortune to spend time in an Iranian prison, they're not very good at distinguishing what constitutes a tyranny and a free society"! LOL Yep! he's quite right, unfortunately!
At the same time someone outside of our system of operations could point out our tyranny that maybe we'd been so accustomed to that we no longer are aware of it. Like one fish asking another fish, 'how's the water' and the fish responding 'what water?'
@@harvey4385 It's entertaining to some, but ultimately it's him having to give the same speech he's given hundreds of times. There's no further progression, no philosophical advice, and nothing for the viewer who actually wants to learn or open their perspective
And did you see the comment from the butthurts toward Peterson? Sickening. This is why mental health issues are still being kept hush-hush: because of insensitive, brainless people. You don't agree with his stance, fine, but don't tell him he deserves his addiction. That's like telling someone they deserved cancer. Not cool people, not cool.
@@kittymamayyz I disagree with JBP a lot, but I genuinely hope he will come out of this ordeal ok. I don't hate him, I just disagree often. I hope he will draw attention to the negative side effects of psychiatric drugs in the future. Lots of people are struggling because of prescribed drugs.
My favprite thing about this conversation is how damn relaxed both of them are. Dr. Peterson is literally laid-back, sipping coffee, arms open and just enjoying a reasonable chat with another person, instead of buttoned up and ready to defend himself from any angle of attack. What a diference from many other interviews.
This is because they are adults. People that did real work. And played outside as kids, and got disciplined as kids. So they know how to act by the time they are 18-21.
My main takeaway from this video is that the light purple book in the background has to go. It’s throwing off that colour gradient. I’m not actually sure what happened in this video as I couldn’t concentrate on anything other than that damn book. 😂
First thing I did was scan the gradient because that light purple book jumped out at me like and took up permanent residence in my line of sight. Then I restarted the video so I could listen to the conversation but that book never shut up for a second.
Good on Christie Blatchford for being one of the few columnists to conduct a proper interview with Peterson. May her efforts and mode of conduct bear fruit that allows her to move up the ranks!
Beard Nye The Drum Guy yeah how can you not noticed that, but as a Rasta well bruh we don’t go with any feminine shit fuck nah, but not to confuse we respect whatever anyone wants todo with their body and mind JUST LEAVE US OUT OF YOUR NONSENSE
@@Ignasimp Those aren't gay books unless you give it such meaning. Just because LGBT is using the rainbow, doesn't mean that everything with a nice colour flow is a reference to it.
the part where he mentioned you can't divorce sexuality from everything and being central hits home.. this is what's wrong with current days.. people not taking responsibility of anything.
Cho Zan Aung That's a massive generalization which is a little hard to defend. I see it somewhat differently. When people live according to their own lights (so to speak), without reference to TRUTH, they will take responsibility for whatever they consider important and ignore what doesn't appeal to them. Many folks prove ardent and diligent in pursuit of things which don't profit them in the long run. They 'chase after wind.' Abandonment or subjectivization of TRUTH is one of the features of postmodernism (so I have heard). At the end of the book of Judges in the Old Testament, which describes a dark time in ancient Israelite history, it says: 'In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes.' It's not a plug for monarchy, but a reflection on the social disorder of the day.
@Darth Canid How do you differentiate between the 'simple masses' and those not so simple, the 'enlightened elite' or however else one might describe them? I find SIMPLE differentiation between the two categories rather elusive. It's not that hard to find historical personages who have made the transition from one category to another during the course of a lifetime. The transition is possible in either direction, though the social climbers get more attention from historians I suppose. If you look at Philippians 2:5-11, you will see that JESUS of Nazareth took the biggest demotion in history, and has also received the greatest promotion. I'll let you figure out how that worked by reading the passage. But in theory Jesus could have had anything He wanted (as satan tried to remind Him during His forty days' temptation in the desert), yet He chose to identify with the suffering masses, and the healing ministry which made Him famous underlined that commitment. Moreover, what's inherently wrong with being part of the simple masses-------------often defined by their poverty in economic resources, educational achievement, or access to the ornaments of 'high' culture, relative to the 'superior' classes? Don't these have an inherent dignity, despite their lack, because their labor in large measure supports the 'superior' classes, enabling them to pursue their goals? I'm not trying to strike a 'marxist' tone; there is certainly no need for that. (Proverbs 14:31) 'He who oppresses the poor taunts his Maker; but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.' The very notion of 'merit', as commonly understood in the secular world, is open to question: (Psalm 49:16-18) 'Do not be afraid when a man becomes rich, when the glory of his house is increased; for when he dies he will carry nothing away; his glory will not descend after him. Though while he lives he congratulates himself, and though men praise you when you do well for yourself, he shall go to te hgeneration of his fathers; they will never see the light.' For that matter, religious notions of human 'merit' are pretty flimsy: (Romans 3:23) 'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.' (James 2:10) 'IF anyone keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.' Judging by some of my discussion in recent days, I seem to have anti-meritocracy on the brain. Nevertheless it has a better Biblical foundation than many might suppose. The Bible proclaims the love of God and the way of human salvation; in the end, liberation from the dominion of sin and death. Everyone is invited to the table on the same basis, which is grace, not merit. Reinforcing moral precept in order to strengthen hierarchical social control, the 'opiate of the masses' and all that----------------this is 'small potatoes' compared with salvation. For the 'small potatoes', any old religion or ideology could be pressed into service.
It is this simple the bible runs on the same fundamentals, if something is deemed wrong consequences need to be enforced to keep the majority from doing so. Just like the bible has guidelines to follow it also tells you what happens when you dont (punishments). Thats how rules who for the majority of people, if there is now consequence they dont care. Example people of both sexs cheat on each other all the time but yet everyone universally knows its wrong but still happens. If this was punishable by law you would see a huge decrease. This falls right back to the op comment that take no responsibility nowadays.
@@ThePhenom411 Yes, you have latched on to a part of the Bible's message; yet it would be a mistake to suppose that moral enforcement is its overriding purpose. Perhaps you concentrated your attention on the Law of Moses, which includes not only the Ten Commandments but (as one hears) a total of 613 specific positive commandments or regulations. The consequence for ancient Israel of obedience to the WHOLE Law would be temporal blessing and security from enemies of every kind. The consequence of FAILURE to obey the whole Law would be cursing, including economic insecurity, rampant disease, foreign invasion, even exile from the Promised Land. As it turned out, the people of Israel disobeyed far more than they obeyed, and they received curses in abundance, though God never withdrew His love entirely from them. He has not done so even to this day. Such is the GRACE (undeserved favor) of God. If we regard Law only and not GRACE as well, we distort the image of God and lose the source of all hope. For the fact remains that humans are constitutionally INCAPABLE of obeying God's laws, certainly neither consistently nor from the heart and usually not at all, because we are SINNERS by nature. (Sin=missing the mark, an inherited predisposition to stray from truth and integrity.) Therefore, according to the apostle Paul (writing in the New Testament), the Law is a TUTOR to lead us to Christ. For it is CHRIST alone Who is qualified to bring us in to the presence of God, to make us acceptable to Him. When the Spirit of God reveals to us the fatal limitations of our self-righteousness, our effort to do good on own behalf, we are enabled to REPENT and receive the righteousness of Christ as a GIFT. It says that 'Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.' Romans 6:23 brings together the theme of CONSEQUENCES for sin and the theme of GRACE: (Romans 6:23) 'For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.' Once received, this gift empowers the believer in Christ to do works consistent with the Law from a new heart, a renewed motivation-------------hence the expression, 'born again' (used by Jesus Himself in John 3:3 and following).
im persian and i've spent time in an iranian prison, and i've lived here all of my 20 years... all i've ever wanted for myself and my people has been western laws that grant individual liberties, and to think you have a generation hell bent on eradicating that seems immeasurably moronic
Living in an ex-communist country, member of the Warsaw Pact and serf to the USSR, I am baffled to see all these folk from Western Europe and from over the pond actually cherish socialist and Marxist thought... And they're fight to implement it in our societies it's also so extraterrestrial to me.
@@dan-andreinafureanu6046 okay m8, they don't yet understand just how corrupting, power is. especially when only a few have it without answering to anyone
@@siavoushavesta5324 Exactly. And all systems are bound to fail to corruption, but some less than others. And I think that history proved us which ones are the least corruptible ones.
The final piece here rings so true. As an educator, I have three cameras in my room at all times, one in my office with a 360 ceiling view and two in the classroom. Everything is there. The trust between myself and my students has always been there, but I'm covering my own rearside just in case.
I'd argue that if the trust between you and the students was there, then the cameras wouldn't be. Cameras erode trust. I cannot fathom this happening where I am. I hope it never does. The bottom line is that no one knows what they're dealing with any more with weapons issues and so many unclear rules. Though, please let's not pretend there is trust. If people can't manage social relationships in a mutually respectful way at a very basic level, then let's forget about education altogether too. It makes the environment complex and political. Focus on ideas, not laws.
@@Gogs126 Cameras are allowed everywhere except toilets and changing rooms. What he is doing (as long as he doesnt keep the tapes to wank to, which I dont think he does) Is both legal and moral, And it is the only way he can defend himself at a time when public lynching before/ without a fair trial is common practice.
Peterson is a cool guy with a distinctly rational way of looking at things. It's refreshing, we need him. But can't help thinking that many people reading/watching him just mindlessly agree with everything he says because he is a "genius". And I'm sure not even JP himself wants that.
He would most certainly be absolutely terrified by the idea of people blindly following him. "Think for yourself" is at the core of what he is trying to tell people, I believe. And people will be all over his videos like "he's so right! genius!" - while blindly agreeing to him, because he said something that is critical of the "left" and fits in their view of the world. People are just lazy and complacent.
I agree. Theres a lot of sense in what he says but I think there are issues with some of his assertions that could be challenged by someone prepared to engage intelligently.
That's not it. He is popular because the vast majority of thinking people with experience have realized for a long time that 99% of what he is saying is obviously true. We're just glad that finally someone in Academia has the intelligence, the work-ethic, the blameless past, and the courage to stand up to the bullies......People with both traditional conservative values AND traditional liberal values are horrified by the woke mob. They've abandoned any sense of fair play or reason. Liberals were the CHAMPIONS of free speech in the past
We should be careful not exaggerate the rarity as such a value judgement has the potential to create a fracture and further us/them separation. A short period of reflection would reveal to most of us the items causing discomfort in contemporary society. There's only so long one can hold their breath; eventually, regular breathing will be resumed. (We've yet to see what benefits this panicked, breathless moment in social discussion will create: negative examples can be powerfully instructive. Peterson seems to understand this, hence his steadfast curiosity and calm.) Important we don't give up.
There such a huge divorce between how people practically behave day-to-day and what people want to claim the 'rules' are. I've been hit on, not a million times, but it's happened, by men and women. Pretty much every time, the offer involved an initiation of physical contact. It's called 'making a move', we all know what that is, or at least we used to (It doesn't mean I got grabbed in my special place, it's usually a hand on a leg or something like that). It takes courage, and doesn't always go well. Sure, it wasn't always welcome on my side, particularly from another guy, but how petty and small of me to call it harassment, let alone sexual assault. If you live in reality, go to bars and clubs with horny drunk people looking for love, sometimes this will happen. That's life and being human, and to my mind not a particularly big deal. But suddenly, we lump those people under sexual assaulters, ruin their lives, and make it so people in general become afraid to engage in natural human interaction. All because a few idealists and young people thought they could define human behavior in two sentences of 'right' and 'wrong' based on their own desire to be free from having to ever deal with anything they didn't want to.
This just underscores that feminism, the MeToo movement, and all of this gender crap in general isn't about equality or anything of the sort.... if it were women would be lining up to take the burden off men in the deadly jobs they do that women don't yet enjoy the benefits of. It's about power. Pure, raw, unadulterated power. That and nothing more.
What if you are speaking as someone who simply has been lucky enough to never be sexually assaulted? I see you as taking your luck for granted, and speaking from a position of privilege based on your egocentric-regressed claim that JP's followers - being you - must know better than the majority of the academic world and popn who think otherwise. Truth is, there is a difference from guys who make a move by touching your arm let's say, versus your butt, or by slipping pills into your drink. This is what the MeToo movement is more concerned with, and you're dismissing those as if they are not common nor what the concern is. Do some research into the stats. Don't take it from me (someone you probably assume is a liberal).
Virtuoso80 I'm a woman who has been hit on probably millions of times😄. Thank you for so articulately saying what I've thought. I wish what you've written could be read by more people. I've been hit on by teachers, employers, coworkers, staff, doctors, but never once felt they were sexually harassing me. Personally, when a man has made a move on me, I've always thought of it as a compliment. In my opinion, regardless of whether I'm interested in taking him up on it, it's still a very nice thing that someone finds me attractive enough that they've taken the risk of rejection, by letting me know, even if the so called balance of power is in their favor, such as from an employer. (People have to meet somewhere.) Some men do just come out & say they find you attractive, & generally if you only respond by saying thank you, they understand you're politely saying the feeling isn't reciprocated. Even if it's done by a hand on the leg etc., most men quickly pick up on whether or not you're interested, a few make a 2nd move that requires you be a bit more obvious in response, but that's just the equivalent to being asked if they read you right that you're saying "no". I hope this "me too" movement gets sorted out better & it doesn't put men off from 'making their move'. I'm sure some women have been harrassed, but not all men should be viewed as harrassers because of it. It really is a nice thing that someone is letting you know you're attractive enough to have caught their attention, & I as far as I'm concerned, I hope men continue.
He is always spot on during interviews. She was an excellent speaker as well. Most women jump to the feminism, and all the rest of the negative bandwagons. It's a scary world for a man. Why are women making it that way? It's a shame.
Woman making it that way? Don't blame woman on this. We man let this happen to ourselves. The man around the globe became weak in the past couple of decades, so of course that this happened to us.
Genuinely interesting question, possible that, in part, women enjoy having the upper hand over their male counterparts for the first time in cultural history.
Landon Morgan I don’t paint that picture at all, that’s an enormous leap from what I said. I was referring explicitly to the “don’t be alone in a room with a woman”. In this specific situation, the woman will be given the benefit of the doubt over a man. It’s like the accusation is enough, due course is given no credence at all in favour of consequences.
Oh it's not just women. Take a look at the employees on CNN! Don Lemon for example. It is a rare thing for him to say the truth and nothing but the truth the others who lick up the rest of the landscape trying to taste what he left behind. A network named the "Con News Network" and most of them are men. Or at least a lot of them? If I watch anything from them it's usually that.
@Scion of Madness Yep; it's a thing that 'wasn't a thing' until it started being taught out of practically nowhere. And as such it trains people to focus on the undesirable rather than the desirable - what they *don't* want vs. what they do. "I know what you're against - what are you _for?_ " -Emile deBeque, "South Pacific"
@@eoinsmith1996 I mean its better that there is an open bathroom because it would make me uncomfortable if someone from the opposite gender came into the same bathroom as me. I dont care about what gender you are but it must make sense. A woman at birth can become a man if they choose to but they shouldnt be forced to go to the men's room or women's. That's why having open bathrooms is preferred.
it feels so good to watch and listen to a conversation between two intelligent people that are not out to get the other, but to exchange ideas on the basis of respect
Only someone who wants to offend and not be called out on it would say something like that. Its definitely true that people are too sensitive nowadays and avoid nuance in uncomfortable subjects but that doesnt mean offense is normal. There is a too far. There is a lack of consideration. And people do get release on their bias by offending people and theb hiding behind "hey you are too sensitive" afterwards. Intent is important.
That´s a brutal clear stop sign that your advances are not welcome (if it goes down to that you must be at best much more lower in intelligence than bucket of very unintelligent rocks) any one who don´t stop then deserves anything what they got after that
Réality ! Truth ! Thats they feat the most !! That all of the other are evil and its theyr fault !! Not mine !! How can we go on whith those histeric People !?
This is honestly one of the most captivating interviews I’ve ever seen. The interviewer was the epitome of a professional and, as always, Jordan Peterson did a fantastic job explaining the impetus for “sexual misconduct.”
Zayan Watchel and what is a politician really? A word Smith, a bad descendant of sophistry that seek nothing but personal gain with no actual deep understanding of things in general and easily being controlled by the highest elite, if money is '' right''. Is this the person you seek to vote? I wouldn't.
Ervin Ruka And when did I use the word "politician?" Never, I said leader. I don't want somebody who's better at politicking then leading to be the leader of my country. They need skill at both. Jordan has neither, he had never, to my knowledge, led an organization, dabbled in politics or anything a good politician _and leader_ does. He's a psychologist, this does not, and will never, make him a leader. He can teach, speak and research, true. But he has never demonstrated himself capable of leading. Full stop. This dogmatic view of Peterson as a messiah is weird to me, especially when you want him as your PM.
Zayan Watchel I wrote in general. I'm not saying JP is a leader or indeed he should become one. I'm only arguing that your idea of a leader is an wrong one. You see a leader in a politician or someone that lead an '' organisation'' or whatever that means. You mean a bank manager, a hedge fund executive?? Oh great, the last thing we want is to put in charge not only a rhetorician but also a bank manager. Let's jump from someone who's greedy to someone who produces greed :). You know, the founders of philosophy argued that the leaders of a nation should be on the par with sages or be a sage. Let that sink in for a moment.
Could you elaborate for me? I'm trying to break it down but I dont feel as if I've gotten it completely. Is it because if the door is closed then one person can lie about something that happened and almost be validated just by the fact the door was shut rather than by presenting any imperial evidence to prove their claims??
Wizdom Werks agreed, as well it could create the feeling of being trapped. That feeling might increase someone’s awareness and read too much into the situation and perhaps even look for sexual advantages where there isn’t any.
Wizdom Werks partly but he’s also referring to the consequence rather than intent belief. So for instance, where consequence is believed over intent then manipulation of consequences are inevitable.
Just read that this lady died not long after this interview. I have never come across her before but what a refreshing thing to watch two grown ups having a decent discussion. RIP young lady, you sounded a very interesting woman.
When I saw that Jordan Peterson was being interviewed by Christie Blatchford I immediately had to watch this video. It is so sad that we have lost such a great journalist. Rest in peace Christie Blatchford, we miss you.
The term "Common sense" is and always has been wishful thinking by intelligent people who fail to grasp that it's also a lie. There is no such thing as "Common sense."
@@Danny-oi8yl I wouldn't go so far as to say common sense doesnt exist, considering it was first spoken of by Aristotle as far as we know. In all honesty the history behind the term common sense is actually very interesting and encompasses a wide range meanings that have evolved from Aristotle's original idea of the term
No joke. I thought common sense brain cells were part of the basic brains package like eat & shit. But our universities are full of people who either didn't get them or were talked into trading them in for pc cells. Are we sure universities are places of "higher" learning??!! ":-\
The fact that this person even took the time to NOT interrupt him all the time, let him talk, have meaningful questions, allow for intellectual dissent between them... I know this was going to be good. I love this type of discourse.
I love the part where he expressed his deep wish of punching a female critic in the face. As if that wasn't a complete violation of moral both for a public speaker AND A FUCKING MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL YOU ABSOLUTE POTATOES!
@@michaelcraig9449 he openly expressed his desire for violence and that violence is an option. This promotes violence. This is a mockery of the mindset of an actual medical professional. He is setting a dangerous example.
Hi, Folks. Hats off to both of them, Jordan for his in-depth analysis and his ability to cut through the shit and to express his views simply and to Christie for her open-mindedness and curiosity. A good video. Just my 0.02. You all have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
@@jeniferdouglas Exactly! And I think it allows the discussion to go deeper, unlike with interviewers who have an agenda who force the guest to state the obvious every time as an attempt to counter ideology. I think like so many bad interviewers have prevented Jordan Peterson from going to a deeper side of the discussion, simply because the interviewers were too biased or clueless to handle it. And, as you mentioned, having different sides being presented calmly and with as little bias as possible feels so much more intellectually stimulating.
As someone who has been a recipient of sexual harassment, I define it as repeated advances when it is clear that it is unwanted. One guy that I was interviewing for a student paper when I was 18 grabbed me to keep me from leaving the room. When you have to overcome a person's defenses to have sexual contact with them, that should be a clue. I think it goes beyond asking someone if they want to go out on a date and being turned down.
Yeah, those are called serious criminals - they do wrong even after realising dat its wrng... But most of the pipol realises dat after one time. And what he did is a direct harassment, not a micro agression ; i hope u reported him and if u didnt, hope he now knows what he did was wrng and regrets doing that :)
So this happened to you. All too often teenage boys and men overrule girls and women and force themselves on them and all to often they nag and continue on nagging until they get their way and some make it a little into a joke, but they all have one focus and that is getting "sex" no matter what and THAT is not what sex with consent looks like, but that is how you Rape! For it makes the female freeze and they in the end only give in because they can't think clearly no more and feel frozen and the freeze reaction is a survival reaction of the brain that makes it unable to refuse anymore and leave... So these overruling approaches are harmful and wrong and boys and men need to be raised to become better men in this area! Girls and women deserve respect!
Agree. FYI My response to a charge of micro aggression in my behavior: an apology of micro (or better still, nano) proportions. Grow up, get a back bone and learn to live in a society where - heaven forbid - you might not be surrounded by a personal cheer squad.
Another example of micro aggressions is a society where sexist, demeaning comments exist everywhere: home, workplace, books, newspapers, television, politics, religion, etc.... These micro aggressions carry on for hundreds of years, leading up to a society where women are not treated with an equal amount of respect as men. I can see how your example might be true too.
@Mass acher You see, that's where we differ. Everyone has my respect to begin with, nobody has to earn it. Why would I treat a complete stranger with disrespect? They can however, do things to lose or diminish my respect, like you have just done.
To all liberals and lefties out there, this is how you have a conversation about something important. Notice no name calling, no wild assumptions, no accusations, no smearing, no crying, no screaming and no tantrums.... That's how it's done in a civilized society.
Pretty wild assumption that all lefties are like that. And suggesting the right doesn't have its own deranged (read any breitbart comment section). Extremism isn't partisan.
@@Marco48375 Umm sorry to disappoint you but I don't read breitbart, but look at the comments under articles from the independent or guardian, the hate from the left in those comments is hilarious, so look at your own before pointing fingers. The right don't get it right all the time but they are right a lot more than the left are, why do you think the right is growing at a rate of knots? And no before you say it isn't because they are all racists or Nazi's, its Because the left are going so far left nowadays that we can't even see them. And To be fair lefties are the most vocal and are the most violent, antifa being a prime example, the left are always bitching about something. And btw it was an appeal to all lefties to not be like that and if they are to change their ways for everyone's sake, Anyway what's wrong with generalising? That's what the left do the best isn't it? Calling everyone who voted for brexit a racist or a Nazi, or Trump voters being called racist and attacked if they where a MAGA hat. I've had to endure 4 years of name calling because the left couldn't accept Brexit, they acted like little children the whole way through, they are responsible for most of the division in our society today and if you don't agree with that then that's fine it's just my opinion.
@@tonyromano6220 Hahahahahhahaahah go find a safe space to crawl in to!! That's the problem with the left, anything you don't agree with is hate speech, look at my previous reply to the other guy, you are a perfect example of the people sewing division in our society. Hahaha hate speech, I still can't believe you wrote that 😂😂😂 so if it's hate speech I assume I must be silenced?? Why don't you write to RUclips and get me de-platformed, or better yet if it is actual hate speech send it to the police and try to silence me that way. You lot are hilarious I'm just so happy I'm not like you and definitely not a liberal leftie complaining constantly about every little thing and people who hold different opinions, it must be so exhausting being angry at everything and everyone, it's probably why they make no sense most of the time.
I love JP and I thank God for having an opportunity to listen to his arguments on various social problems and concerns... It almost feels like many of my ignorant walls are being shattered down through his logical and wise comments... I hope more people from our society listen to him and come to realization of what's right and what's wrong on many unfair prejudiced social issues at hand...this is a war on ideology....
Seriously? Are you honestly crying about "unfair prejudiced social issues" aimed at straight white men? The most dominant and privileged subset of people in human history? Stand up straight bucko, and stop playing the victim.
@James feminism didn't started 60 years ago, it has been around for ages. Do your research first. And their role hasn't been "purely instinctive", they have been pushed into these gender roles by male oppression without letting them explore other areas as a group.
You know things have gone really bad, when we are all happy to listen to a respectful, intelligent, normal conversation... Bless this woman for not being defensive nor agressive with and to him.
I have huge respect for this interviewer, she's actually listening to someone else's opinion instead of injecting question after question to just ignore what point Peterson just made
I m a left leaning humanist ...and not a conservative at all...but Dr Jordan s someone I can listen to for hours. He s so intellectually honest and he respects traditional gender roles. It's so rare in men and in intellectuals that it shines through him . Respect.
The only thing sillier than the comments a RUclips comments section is someone complaining about the RUclips comments section with a comment in the RUclips comments section.
@@alegriart don't be so literal 😏 there's Charles Xavier action figures, which is essentially the same except he touches his temple instead of the chin...
"Having never really had the fortune to spend any time in an Iranian prison, for example, they're not very good at distinguishing between what constitutes a tyranny and what constitutes a free society." So damn true.
Brings to mind that actress who flipped and started hashtagging Metoo when an airport worker simply asked for her number. I guess nobody is allowed to talk to women anymore. Only women are allowed to do the propositioning to men because somehow that's okay and not at all hypocritical.
One example of an over-reaction isn't worth the millions of people that felt comforted and empowered by the #Metoo movement? Sorry not trying to be a keyboard warrior but genuinely interested to hear a reaction to this
I guess my knee-jerk response would be: Can you say with any certainty that the statistic of quarter of all women having been sexually assaulted (in America I assume you were referring to) is a false one? Do you expect the actual stat to be higher or lower? I can't think of a reliable enough source to provide us with any of these statistics, all I can attest to is how much better the #metoo movement made people feel. Many of my friends have said, and said at the time especially how they felt better knowing they were the only ones who'd had to deal with some kind of assault. The stat might be wrong, and I know there have been many instances of people getting it wrong, over-reacting etc... But I still would see the movement as a positive, although it's certainly soured as it's gone on. I would also say I think that people sometimes DO need a hashtag or movement to speak out about their problems. The embarrassment and weight of a sexual assault is grand, especially when you know speaking up about such a thing could cause a great deal of harm to the perpetrator of the offence, a lot of people can't bring themselves to say stuff like that.
Women shouldn't get to feel more safe? Because men will live in fear? No man I know is living in fear. Probably because I don't associate with men who would have any reason to fear this. Of course, there are women and organizations who have taken advantage of this movement. That doesn't change what the movement is about - the very real culture of acceptance around sexual assault. Society had its chance to fix this, it didn't, so therefore #metoo arose in the void.
Dear Jordan, there's a song called "The Trees" by a Canadian band from Toronto. That track warned us all long ago. They need everyone objective (never subjective). Ergo, the "trees will be made equal, by hatchet, axe and saw" Rock on, Sir.
It’s not that they don’t want to have a genuine conversation or that they wish to mislead the public. It’s that the mainstream Western media positions itself as coming from a place of absolute objectivity and thus is merely asking the question to get at ‘the truth’. The problem is that absolute objectivity is impossible and we’re all coming from a particular perspective, both individual and social, and that perspective is imbued with values not facts. Facts are hard to establish. I can say that I saw that man kill another man, but to determine if it was murder requires much more information because he may have been defending himself (therefore not murder, but then of course there’s the concept of reasonable force, so did he go too far or could we discover later that he picked a fight so as to be able to take his life because the guy had had an affair with his partner - you see how complicated this becomes?). Since the 1980s (at least) the media has pushed this idea they they are ‘impartial’, but the methodology of interviewing is aggressive, with regular interruptions that are ostensibly geared towards uncovering the truth, but merely function to narrow down answers to (often, not always) a simple yes or no to a complicated question. I think what JP does brilliantly is expose the complexity of issues and this interview, as others have said, is a good example of an exploratory conversation, not a attempt to disprove what he’s saying. Of course it could easily equally be argued that she clearly agrees with his perspective and hence it’s not going to be an aggressive exchange. But that’s my point. It doesn’t have to be. The discussion can take place respectfully and without the rising hysteria of a kind of ‘I can’t believe you’re putting forward and supporting this perspective’ interaction.
Nathan Morris Are the mainstream media a monolith? How have you determined that 'they' categorically do not want a genuine conversation, and with whom? Are you speaking of Peterson exclusively, or of all prospective guests? How can you verify that they 'want' to mislead their audience? Surely they have an agenda, but they may well be convinced of its rectitude. If their message is deceptive, consider that the possibility that they are deceived themselves (!), rather than intending to deceive. And you also are probably not immune to deception. In the Bible, satan is described as 'god of this world', 'prince of the power of the air'. Do not imagine that his influence is limited to a certain portion of the ideological spectrum. Furthermore, humans are complicit in his evil. (Romans 3:23) 'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.'
This is one of the few interviews where the interviewer doesn't put words in JP's mouth. Typically, the interviewers put words in JP's mouth, which then results in JP repeating the same phrase for half the runtime, "No, that's not what I said."
Keeping the door open is really good advice... you never know where the lies will hide. In these times, you're playing with fire to underestimate the potential for personal disaster.
A man and a woman having an intelligent discussion on modern problems, there's still hope for humanity!
nope
@@Kalenz1234 lol
Post modernists are just secular terrorists
apocalypse , No you are wrong , our civilization , as we know it , is Finished !
Now look for the same thing in among the young generation.
Look at all the love she gets just for listening and having a rational discussion... See how easy it is?
@Jarvy Mcmunn Rights are no different.
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It's easy indeed, if you agree with him.
@@romekhanys9215 And it's hard to refute what he says and prove he's wrong because, well, he uses facts and logic
hound doggin - we are all grateful to you for raising the tone of this debate 🤔
Respect to this lady for actually listening to him and asking him what certain things mean. This lady is awesome cause she's open minded.
It is a sad day when being a reasonable person capable of thought is considered a particularly meritorious trait.
@@triplea657aaa it has always been this way
Im all for someone who wants to conduct an interview to ACTUALLY LEARN SOMETHING for once, as opposed to the flurry of disgruntled bitter Demotards whose thinly veiled intent is to vent and spew and try to corner and entrap Dr. P, or go down in incompetent flames trying to get in the last jab.
Many kudos for this woman who clearly isn't intimidated by his intellect, and didnt go into it set to boil over in rabid fervour once she found a trigger point, and who educated everyone with intelligent discourse. FIRST DR. J. INTERVIEW IVE SEEN YET to do this, anywhere.
Unless she's talking about whistleblowers
So if a woman listens to a man that makes her good and you like her. God forbide she disagrees with the man. Hmmm?
It’s sad that all the comments are praising her for being reasonable because we’ve gotten so used to unreasonable behaviour and steering conversation away from reality
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@Indian Stars 😂😂😂😂🤟🤟🤟🤟
@Indian Stars only unicorns are reasonable
Its sad that a woman is only appreciated when she is agreeing mostly with what Peterson says and doesnt interrupt his monologues
Yeah, I think its nice to see that they're discussing together, not having a war with words.
Two minutes in, and I could see this woman was going to have an INTELLIGENT conversation instead of "gotcha".
Deplorable Dave you don’t get to have an opinion ya deplorable, don’t ya know all of us trump supporters are evil racists?
Deplorable Dave its because you are generally extremely clever mr President. God bless you.
yeah she immediately was interested in having a good conversation
Like water in the desert, isn't it?
Deplorable Dave - Much better than that "hit piece," with that Feminist, Channel 4, Fake News, accuser.
I really like this lady. Idk who she is, I bumped into this video by chance but she seems so genuinely interested but also highly educated and well spoken. It is just so nice to hear a calm conversation about charged topics.
I've been following Christie since she began her career in Edmonton before going out east, a true journalist
"Bumped into this video by chance".....you may wish to reconsider that statement considering the platform.
Rebecca robinson she barely said anything
She is a Canadian Journalist
@devil dawg In fairness, it's not very effective opening jars of pickles
RIP Christie Blatchford. Not many like her left around.
dafq she died :O
OMG wtf she died like 2 weeks ago!!! T-T what a big loss. She was quite amazing...
@@psychologienerd7546 NO FREAKING WAY really??? That's horrible!!!
Noooo. She passed away? :(
@@willnicholson18 ha, wow, how could a chain smoking alcoholic not live forever? There's no other explanation, it must be a conspiracy
I like this woman. She's good, she listens and adds to the debate. I like her.
Yes she was great unfortunately she passed away last year from lung cancer
she's dead
While Ms. Blatchford is no longer with us in person, people can still read her books and many of her articles that are still on line.
i find it interesting your comment starts with "I like this women [...] she listens" hahaha. But yes, she's good at having conversations.
I don’t hear an intelligent continuation of any one topic, I hear two similar minded individuals discussing a range of current event topics only 1-2 layers deep, without either establishing multiple viewpoints and parameters of the issues or even sticking to one specific issue.
A couple of very intelligent Canadians have a very reasonable discussion.
Sorry
Eh...
being candaian is irrelevant to who they are
@@pinktink2976
I disagree
@@brpitrepeters7983 But you have no intelligent argument to present as to why
I could tell from the first 10 seconds that I was going to like this woman. She was visibly calm and genuinely LISTENING to JP.
Tortuga 58 This person, you mean. Why mention her gender? Sounds like you have trouble with uppity n... women.
I mention her gender because it is relevant to the context, given other instances of JBP being pretty clearly misconstrued by women. Example: Cathy Newman.
KZ And you proceed to extrapolate the behaviour of one JP fan to the whole group. Great work.
Steel Xcaliber how did I even do that? I pointed to him as an individual, stop being so triggered. I know you might think he belongs to your in-group and you should defend him, but we should criticize based on individual behavior, not on in- or out-group.
Yes I was a bit scared too, you never know when he's talking with a woman if she's a feminist or not
It's so oddly refreshing to hear JP have an actual discussion with a woman who actually listens, behaves fairly rationally and seeks to reach a common understanding through their conversation.
You're right, this wasn't a discussion, rather than just a conversation in which the two people just talk about a topic and agree on it.
I get asknorway's point tho in that it is refreshing to finally see a calm conversation rather with a person who listens to JP rather than to not to.
I'm not trying to stir some stuff, but i do have to point out that OP did not say "with a person", he said "with a woman". And i understand where he comes from because I've seen many cringy so called "feminists" argue irrationally with him about basic concepts. I'll just close by saying it is always refreshing to see a calm conversation between two person, male or female, capable of listening to each other. JP made a lecture on that, and it's very interesting.
nice try except he literally said that. It's commonly called a slip of the tongue. I might exaggerated but it's more likely that.
If you think that's refreshing, you should try Jesus!
I think @asknorway was just pointing out how fortunate it is that the of the whole of the context happened, not just this snippet.
"Having never had the fortune to spend time in an Iranian prison, they're not very good at distinguishing what constitutes a tyranny and a free society"! LOL Yep! he's quite right, unfortunately!
At the same time someone outside of our system of operations could point out our tyranny that maybe we'd been so accustomed to that we no longer are aware of it. Like one fish asking another fish, 'how's the water' and the fish responding 'what water?'
Get a clue. Phone a friend maybe.
I don't know if prisons anywhere are less tyrannical unless you are an influential person.
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@@pazzodi3 exactly.
So refreshing to see “Jordan Peterson on me too” rather than “Jordan Peterson DESTROYS me too”
Id say Jordan himself detests those titles because it doesnt get anywhere
@@harvey4385 It's entertaining to some, but ultimately it's him having to give the same speech he's given hundreds of times. There's no further progression, no philosophical advice, and nothing for the viewer who actually wants to learn or open their perspective
@@charlesthegreat4139 watch half of his 300 lectures and you might begin to scratch the surface
Exactly
Turns out you can still get views without being a clickbaiting douche
Blatchford passed away today.
Peterson is fighting for his life in Russia.
This video is more important today than ever.
No way, she did?! This is my first time hearing about her, let alone watching a video featuring her.
And did you see the comment from the butthurts toward Peterson? Sickening. This is why mental health issues are still being kept hush-hush: because of insensitive, brainless people.
You don't agree with his stance, fine, but don't tell him he deserves his addiction. That's like telling someone they deserved cancer. Not cool people, not cool.
RIP good lady
That's really sad. She seems alive and kicking in this video.
@@kittymamayyz I disagree with JBP a lot, but I genuinely hope he will come out of this ordeal ok. I don't hate him, I just disagree often. I hope he will draw attention to the negative side effects of psychiatric drugs in the future. Lots of people are struggling because of prescribed drugs.
Thank you dear lady to ACTUALLY letting him speak and answer your questions for truth’s sake, not your feelings. THAT is a real journalist. THANK YOU!
Sir Humphrey?
He doesn't care for her feelings he is a misogynist (feminists) 2020
My favprite thing about this conversation is how damn relaxed both of them are. Dr. Peterson is literally laid-back, sipping coffee, arms open and just enjoying a reasonable chat with another person, instead of buttoned up and ready to defend himself from any angle of attack. What a diference from many other interviews.
That's because she wants to have an intelligent discussion, not prove how brilliant or superior she is...unlike many of the people Peterson debates.
This is because they are adults. People that did real work. And played outside as kids, and got disciplined as kids. So they know how to act by the time they are 18-21.
My main takeaway from this video is that the light purple book in the background has to go. It’s throwing off that colour gradient. I’m not actually sure what happened in this video as I couldn’t concentrate on anything other than that damn book. 😂
Jeff Brailsford hahaha just noticed that and now I can’t unsee it
#metoo :D
Damn it, man. What have you done..
First thing I did was scan the gradient because that light purple book jumped out at me like and took up permanent residence in my line of sight. Then I restarted the video so I could listen to the conversation but that book never shut up for a second.
Now I can't unsee it! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?! 😂
RIP Christie Blatchford we lost a true warrior and great human being.
yiykes.... humanity lost something of value,
so you're basically saying that everyone else is miserable
@@liminal6669 Cathy Newman? Is that you?
@@willembuysman5217 Are you assuming my gender? You are basically saying talking like that makes me a horrible person and also a terrorist?
@@liminal6669 i hope you are sarcastic
Holy shit. An interviewer that asks relevant and non-abrasive questions? Must be Canadian.
@RUclips Veterinarian
On the whole. Canadians are known for being nice and tolerant.
@@theresag1969 we used to be that way. Before postmodernism and intersectionality.
@@rhumandlove393 Postmodernism took root there specifically because you're polite. It victimizes the kind.
Canada is almost as woke as Sweden is. To say Dr. P is on the front lines, dosen't get much more literal short of placing him in a real warzone.
yeah right, we canadians have treated Peterson like trash. Protests everywhere he goes, harassed at his own place of work, etc...
Metoo started out going after real offensive serial abusers and evolved into complaints about bad dates.
In Denmark, we are about to implement, a ‘passport’ like agreement, between individuals, before having sex.
Don’t know how that’s gonna workout
@@Agerskiold i guess there will be some sort of assortment of rubber stamps and ink pads for approved activities.
@@Loganthered1 Yeah something like that 😂
It’s crazy 😝
@@Agerskiold whoa.. I so surprised with what we doing in Denmark 🇩🇰.. forget sometimes we not better then another countries on that subject
@Pick Monitor "He was 10 minutes late, the chicken was cold, I think I was raped,' CAREER OVER!"
Bill Burr, paper tiger
Good on Christie Blatchford for being one of the few columnists to conduct a proper interview with Peterson. May her efforts and mode of conduct bear fruit that allows her to move up the ranks!
This is pre programmed, so they can control the direction the sheep will walk.
Anyone else fascinated with how pretty the rainbow books are? Really really nice background.
Beard Nye The Drum Guy yeah how can you not noticed that, but as a Rasta well bruh we don’t go with any feminine shit fuck nah, but not to confuse we respect whatever anyone wants todo with their body and mind JUST LEAVE US OUT OF YOUR NONSENSE
Apart from the lilac book that ruins the rainbow
Those are gay books!
@@Ignasimp Those aren't gay books unless you give it such meaning. Just because LGBT is using the rainbow, doesn't mean that everything with a nice colour flow is a reference to it.
"Fascinated" is a bit strong.
Christie Blatchford is a great Journalist. One of the few "Good Reads" left in Canada. She gets it!
Try reading her compadre Barbara Kay.
Jordan is such a breath of fresh air! Making sense of difficult topics
the part where he mentioned you can't divorce sexuality from everything and being central hits home.. this is what's wrong with current days.. people not taking responsibility of anything.
Cho Zan Aung
That's a massive generalization which is a little hard to defend. I see it somewhat differently. When people live according to their own lights (so to speak), without reference to TRUTH, they will take responsibility for whatever they consider important and ignore what doesn't appeal to them. Many folks prove ardent and diligent in pursuit of things which don't profit them in the long run. They 'chase after wind.' Abandonment or subjectivization of TRUTH is one of the features of postmodernism (so I have heard).
At the end of the book of Judges in the Old Testament, which describes a dark time in ancient Israelite history, it says:
'In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes.'
It's not a plug for monarchy, but a reflection on the social disorder of the day.
@Darth Canid
How do you differentiate between the 'simple masses' and those not so simple, the 'enlightened elite' or however else one might describe them? I find SIMPLE differentiation between the two categories rather elusive.
It's not that hard to find historical personages who have made the transition from one category to another during the course of a lifetime. The transition is possible in either direction, though the social climbers get more attention from historians I suppose.
If you look at Philippians 2:5-11, you will see that JESUS of Nazareth took the biggest demotion in history, and has also received the greatest promotion. I'll let you figure out how that worked by reading the passage.
But in theory Jesus could have had anything He wanted (as satan tried to remind Him during His forty days' temptation in the desert), yet He chose to identify with the suffering masses, and the healing ministry which made Him famous underlined that commitment.
Moreover, what's inherently wrong with being part of the simple masses-------------often defined by their poverty in economic resources, educational achievement, or access to the ornaments of 'high' culture, relative to the 'superior' classes? Don't these have an inherent dignity, despite their lack, because their labor in large measure supports the 'superior' classes, enabling them to pursue their goals? I'm not trying to strike a 'marxist' tone; there is certainly no need for that.
(Proverbs 14:31) 'He who oppresses the poor taunts his Maker; but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.'
The very notion of 'merit', as commonly understood in the secular world, is open to question:
(Psalm 49:16-18) 'Do not be afraid when a man becomes rich, when the glory of his house is increased; for when he dies he will carry nothing away; his glory will not descend after him. Though while he lives he congratulates himself, and though men praise you when you do well for yourself, he shall go to te hgeneration of his fathers; they will never see the light.'
For that matter, religious notions of human 'merit' are pretty flimsy:
(Romans 3:23) 'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.'
(James 2:10) 'IF anyone keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.'
Judging by some of my discussion in recent days, I seem to have anti-meritocracy on the brain. Nevertheless it has a better Biblical foundation than many might suppose. The Bible proclaims the love of God and the way of human salvation; in the end, liberation from the dominion of sin and death. Everyone is invited to the table on the same basis, which is grace, not merit. Reinforcing moral precept in order to strengthen hierarchical social control, the 'opiate of the masses' and all that----------------this is 'small potatoes' compared with salvation. For the 'small potatoes', any old religion or ideology could be pressed into service.
Yup! The sex drive governs a sizeable chunk of human activity!
It is this simple the bible runs on the same fundamentals, if something is deemed wrong consequences need to be enforced to keep the majority from doing so. Just like the bible has guidelines to follow it also tells you what happens when you dont (punishments). Thats how rules who for the majority of people, if there is now consequence they dont care. Example people of both sexs cheat on each other all the time but yet everyone universally knows its wrong but still happens. If this was punishable by law you would see a huge decrease. This falls right back to the op comment that take no responsibility nowadays.
@@ThePhenom411
Yes, you have latched on to a part of the Bible's message; yet it would be a mistake to suppose that moral enforcement is its overriding purpose. Perhaps you concentrated your attention on the Law of Moses, which includes not only the Ten Commandments but (as one hears) a total of 613 specific positive commandments or regulations.
The consequence for ancient Israel of obedience to the WHOLE Law would be temporal blessing and security from enemies of every kind.
The consequence of FAILURE to obey the whole Law would be cursing, including economic insecurity, rampant disease, foreign invasion, even exile from the Promised Land. As it turned out, the people of Israel disobeyed far more than they obeyed, and they received curses in abundance, though God never withdrew His love entirely from them. He has not done so even to this day. Such is the GRACE (undeserved favor) of God.
If we regard Law only and not GRACE as well, we distort the image of God and lose the source of all hope.
For the fact remains that humans are constitutionally INCAPABLE of obeying God's laws, certainly neither consistently nor from the heart and usually not at all, because we are SINNERS by nature. (Sin=missing the mark, an inherited predisposition to stray from truth and integrity.)
Therefore, according to the apostle Paul (writing in the New Testament), the Law is a TUTOR to lead us to Christ. For it is CHRIST alone Who is qualified to bring us in to the presence of God, to make us acceptable to Him.
When the Spirit of God reveals to us the fatal limitations of our self-righteousness, our effort to do good on own behalf, we are enabled to REPENT and receive the righteousness of Christ as a GIFT.
It says that 'Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.'
Romans 6:23 brings together the theme of CONSEQUENCES for sin and the theme of GRACE:
(Romans 6:23) 'For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.'
Once received, this gift empowers the believer in Christ to do works consistent with the Law from a new heart, a renewed motivation-------------hence the expression, 'born again' (used by Jesus Himself in John 3:3 and following).
im persian and i've spent time in an iranian prison, and i've lived here all of my 20 years... all i've ever wanted for myself and my people has been western laws that grant individual liberties, and to think you have a generation hell bent on eradicating that seems immeasurably moronic
You get it, thank you.
Living in an ex-communist country, member of the Warsaw Pact and serf to the USSR, I am baffled to see all these folk from Western Europe and from over the pond actually cherish socialist and Marxist thought... And they're fight to implement it in our societies it's also so extraterrestrial to me.
@@dan-andreinafureanu6046 okay m8, they don't yet understand just how corrupting, power is. especially when only a few have it without answering to anyone
@@siavoushavesta5324 Exactly. And all systems are bound to fail to corruption, but some less than others. And I think that history proved us which ones are the least corruptible ones.
@@dan-andreinafureanu6046 precisely, peace brother
The final piece here rings so true. As an educator, I have three cameras in my room at all times, one in my office with a 360 ceiling view and two in the classroom. Everything is there. The trust between myself and my students has always been there, but I'm covering my own rearside just in case.
Smart.
I'd argue that if the trust between you and the students was there, then the cameras wouldn't be. Cameras erode trust. I cannot fathom this happening where I am. I hope it never does. The bottom line is that no one knows what they're dealing with any more with weapons issues and so many unclear rules.
Though, please let's not pretend there is trust. If people can't manage social relationships in a mutually respectful way at a very basic level, then let's forget about education altogether too. It makes the environment complex and political. Focus on ideas, not laws.
Jon Stewart uj
Do the students know? Otherwise you're just Chuck Berry
@@Gogs126 Cameras are allowed everywhere except toilets and changing rooms.
What he is doing (as long as he doesnt keep the tapes to wank to, which I dont think he does)
Is both legal and moral,
And it is the only way he can defend himself at a time when public lynching before/ without a fair trial is common practice.
Peterson is a cool guy with a distinctly rational way of looking at things. It's refreshing, we need him. But can't help thinking that many people reading/watching him just mindlessly agree with everything he says because he is a "genius". And I'm sure not even JP himself wants that.
He would most certainly be absolutely terrified by the idea of people blindly following him. "Think for yourself" is at the core of what he is trying to tell people, I believe. And people will be all over his videos like "he's so right! genius!" - while blindly agreeing to him, because he said something that is critical of the "left" and fits in their view of the world. People are just lazy and complacent.
I agree. Theres a lot of sense in what he says but I think there are issues with some of his assertions that could be challenged by someone prepared to engage intelligently.
That's not it. He is popular because the vast majority of thinking people with experience have realized for a long time that 99% of what he is saying is obviously true. We're just glad that finally someone in Academia has the intelligence, the work-ethic, the blameless past, and the courage to stand up to the bullies......People with both traditional conservative values AND traditional liberal values are horrified by the woke mob. They've abandoned any sense of fair play or reason. Liberals were the CHAMPIONS of free speech in the past
I like her
Potential micro aggression spotted
Ibn Sina Don’t be stupid
Ibn Sina What????
Zubby Starstorm don‘t take the obvious bait. He was trolling.
Same.
You know the world has gone to hell when it’s rare to see a civil conversation like this
We should be careful not exaggerate the rarity as such a value judgement has the potential to create a fracture and further us/them separation. A short period of reflection would reveal to most of us the items causing discomfort in contemporary society. There's only so long one can hold their breath; eventually, regular breathing will be resumed. (We've yet to see what benefits this panicked, breathless moment in social discussion will create: negative examples can be powerfully instructive. Peterson seems to understand this, hence his steadfast curiosity and calm.) Important we don't give up.
It's not really that rare. You just watch the wrong things. Vocal minority and all that.
In the past it wasn’t better.
@@FreedomPuppy yes, very true, 'cause I can see civil conversations everyday in our professors and teachers and such
Most 'conversations' and interviews are just ratings grabs and so incl the dramatics.
Finally, Jordan is interviewed by an intelligent person and not one of Jim Henson's Muppets.
@Tanner Ransom
I was going to say that!!!
Yes, now we need a sane, well-intended and really intelligent person as an interviewee. We already solved 50% of It. Ahahahahahahahahaha
Christie Blatchford a legend and a real journalist. 🙏 RIP.
There such a huge divorce between how people practically behave day-to-day and what people want to claim the 'rules' are. I've been hit on, not a million times, but it's happened, by men and women. Pretty much every time, the offer involved an initiation of physical contact. It's called 'making a move', we all know what that is, or at least we used to (It doesn't mean I got grabbed in my special place, it's usually a hand on a leg or something like that). It takes courage, and doesn't always go well. Sure, it wasn't always welcome on my side, particularly from another guy, but how petty and small of me to call it harassment, let alone sexual assault. If you live in reality, go to bars and clubs with horny drunk people looking for love, sometimes this will happen. That's life and being human, and to my mind not a particularly big deal. But suddenly, we lump those people under sexual assaulters, ruin their lives, and make it so people in general become afraid to engage in natural human interaction. All because a few idealists and young people thought they could define human behavior in two sentences of 'right' and 'wrong' based on their own desire to be free from having to ever deal with anything they didn't want to.
Can I print this and hang it on my wall?
This just underscores that feminism, the MeToo movement, and all of this gender crap in general isn't about equality or anything of the sort.... if it were women would be lining up to take the burden off men in the deadly jobs they do that women don't yet enjoy the benefits of. It's about power. Pure, raw, unadulterated power. That and nothing more.
look at the bright side : it helps stemming the overpopulation of the world
What if you are speaking as someone who simply has been lucky enough to never be sexually assaulted? I see you as taking your luck for granted, and speaking from a position of privilege based on your egocentric-regressed claim that JP's followers - being you - must know better than the majority of the academic world and popn who think otherwise. Truth is, there is a difference from guys who make a move by touching your arm let's say, versus your butt, or by slipping pills into your drink. This is what the MeToo movement is more concerned with, and you're dismissing those as if they are not common nor what the concern is.
Do some research into the stats. Don't take it from me (someone you probably assume is a liberal).
Virtuoso80 I'm a woman who has been hit on probably millions of times😄. Thank you for so articulately saying what I've thought. I wish what you've written could be read by more people. I've been hit on by teachers, employers, coworkers, staff, doctors, but never once felt they were sexually harassing me. Personally, when a man has made a move on me, I've always thought of it as a compliment. In my opinion, regardless of whether I'm interested in taking him up on it, it's still a very nice thing that someone finds me attractive enough that they've taken the risk of rejection, by letting me know, even if the so called balance of power is in their favor, such as from an employer. (People have to meet somewhere.) Some men do just come out & say they find you attractive, & generally if you only respond by saying thank you, they understand you're politely saying the feeling isn't reciprocated. Even if it's done by a hand on the leg etc., most men quickly pick up on whether or not you're interested, a few make a 2nd move that requires you be a bit more obvious in response, but that's just the equivalent to being asked if they read you right that you're saying "no". I hope this "me too" movement gets sorted out better & it doesn't put men off from 'making their move'. I'm sure some women have been harrassed, but not all men should be viewed as harrassers because of it. It really is a nice thing that someone is letting you know you're attractive enough to have caught their attention, & I as far as I'm concerned, I hope men continue.
Now this is a conversation. This is how we should be discussing these subjects or subjects in general.
He is always spot on during interviews. She was an excellent speaker as well. Most women jump to the feminism, and all the rest of the negative bandwagons.
It's a scary world for a man. Why are women making it that way? It's a shame.
Not exactly scary, sticks and stones and all that, but it is confusing
Woman making it that way?
Don't blame woman on this. We man let this happen to ourselves.
The man around the globe became weak in the past couple of decades, so of course that this happened to us.
Genuinely interesting question, possible that, in part, women enjoy having the upper hand over their male counterparts for the first time in cultural history.
Landon Morgan I don’t paint that picture at all, that’s an enormous leap from what I said. I was referring explicitly to the “don’t be alone in a room with a woman”. In this specific situation, the woman will be given the benefit of the doubt over a man. It’s like the accusation is enough, due course is given no credence at all in favour of consequences.
Oh it's not just women. Take a look at the employees on CNN! Don Lemon for example. It is a rare thing for him to say the truth and nothing but the truth the others who lick up the rest of the landscape trying to taste what he left behind.
A network named the "Con News Network" and most of them are men. Or at least a lot of them? If I watch anything from them it's usually that.
Watching the way this woman listened and had a genuine conversation to explore a powerful topic was refreshing and beautiful to witness.
These two are a breath of fresh air, a welcome oasis of intelligence & reason in a chaotic, mad and maddening world
Christie is such a classy interviewer! She truly wants to hear his answers and engages brilliantly. 👌🤩
I am tired of the term “micro aggression”. I feel like it advocates and encourages weak psychological and emotional maturity and strength.
@Scion of Madness
Yep; it's a thing that 'wasn't a thing' until it started being taught out of practically nowhere. And as such it trains people to focus on the undesirable rather than the desirable - what they *don't* want vs. what they do.
"I know what you're against - what are you _for?_ "
-Emile deBeque, "South Pacific"
no one cares about your feeling
I am offended!
@@tonyromano6220 who cares..... pffttt...
Rem Ruata 😹👍🏻
Love that lady! Thank you for let us listen without interruption
Listening to his interviews is so comforting, feels like there's still some sanity somewhere in this world.
@@jonathanvickers6379 😂...humans and their baseless hopefulness...
FINALLY! Someone who actually listens.. WOW, what a completely different interview when a recipient "ACTUALLY" listen!!!
Why can't we have more women Interviewers like this woman? She is absolutely brilliant!!!
old school of thought.
Wth has the gender got to do with it?
@@LisaMaryification Because the popular videos on YT are about Jordan vs feminism, where the interviewer is almost always a woman
.....and more men like Jordan Peterson!
because they have stopped hiring such people at TV Channels. THEY WON'T HIRE EVEN IF THEY COME ACROSS ONE
This is a great discussion of two educated people sharing ideas and learning how to move forward through this societal issue
Society breaks down. Slowly. And we have universities as cesspools to breed these ideologies
My local college has proudly open bathroom facilities that will be able to accommodate all 54 genders... Who the fuck decided this??
@@eoinsmith1996 I mean its better that there is an open bathroom because it would make me uncomfortable if someone from the opposite gender came into the same bathroom as me. I dont care about what gender you are but it must make sense. A woman at birth can become a man if they choose to but they shouldnt be forced to go to the men's room or women's. That's why having open bathrooms is preferred.
@@xxaidanxxsniperz6404 "OPEN BATHROOMS?"🤨
@@coiledsteel8344 it's a place where anyone can take a shit in peace man or woman.
Nilo Chinilla liberal ideologues
Hoping Christie is doing well in her battle with Cancer. One of the few good ones.
🙏🏼
RIP :(
it feels so good to watch and listen to a conversation between two intelligent people that are not out to get the other, but to exchange ideas on the basis of respect
"I'm offended" is nothing more than accepting you are unwilling to control your own emotions and expect others to do so for you.
Only someone who wants to offend and not be called out on it would say something like that. Its definitely true that people are too sensitive nowadays and avoid nuance in uncomfortable subjects but that doesnt mean offense is normal. There is a too far. There is a lack of consideration. And people do get release on their bias by offending people and theb hiding behind "hey you are too sensitive" afterwards. Intent is important.
Or it could mean that you are offended.
That´s a brutal clear stop sign
that your advances are not welcome
(if it goes down to that you must be at best much more lower in intelligence than bucket of very unintelligent rocks)
any one who don´t stop then
deserves anything what they got after that
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Amazing Woman! She is actually opened to honest dialogue and thinking. Excellent interview.
Lol I keep seeing you comment on JP vids. Right on
Who's disliking these videos? "This man talks sense, I don't like it." Really?
Would have been interesting to be able to see it, like on facebook.
They don’t like anything he says cause they labeled him nazi
Réality ! Truth ! Thats they feat the most !! That all of the other are evil and its theyr fault !! Not mine !! How can we go on whith those histeric People !?
We all know who doesn't like it, he's speaking about them and they can't take the reality
Emotionally charge thinking feminists most likely.
This is honestly one of the most captivating interviews I’ve ever seen. The interviewer was the epitome of a professional and, as always, Jordan Peterson did a fantastic job explaining the impetus for “sexual misconduct.”
An interviewer who isn’t trying to demean and corner him?! She is actually having a conversation.
I'm very impressed with how open minded this woman is! Mr Peterson receives a lot of hostility usually 👍
It's so refreshing to hear JP interviewed by someone who isn't trying to constantly attack him.
I'd have a hard time biting my tongue.
Really really like the way the woman (and Petersen obviously) carry themselves in this discussion.
The way they talked was so refreshing. An actual fact based conversation with hints of personal opinion. Awesome
Dr. Jordan Peterson for PM!
He's a psychologist and a good one at that, but philosophizing and researching does not make one a leader. That's why I wouldn't vote for him.
Zayan Watchel he said that he wouldn‘t do it anyway because of the exact reasons. He isn‘t a politician
Zayan Watchel and what is a politician really? A word Smith, a bad descendant of sophistry that seek nothing but personal gain with no actual deep understanding of things in general and easily being controlled by the highest elite, if money is '' right''. Is this the person you seek to vote? I wouldn't.
Ervin Ruka
And when did I use the word "politician?" Never, I said leader. I don't want somebody who's better at politicking then leading to be the leader of my country. They need skill at both. Jordan has neither, he had never, to my knowledge, led an organization, dabbled in politics or anything a good politician _and leader_ does. He's a psychologist, this does not, and will never, make him a leader. He can teach, speak and research, true. But he has never demonstrated himself capable of leading. Full stop. This dogmatic view of Peterson as a messiah is weird to me, especially when you want him as your PM.
Zayan Watchel I wrote in general. I'm not saying JP is a leader or indeed he should become one. I'm only arguing that your idea of a leader is an wrong one. You see a leader in a politician or someone that lead an '' organisation'' or whatever that means. You mean a bank manager, a hedge fund executive?? Oh great, the last thing we want is to put in charge not only a rhetorician but also a bank manager. Let's jump from someone who's greedy to someone who produces greed :).
You know, the founders of philosophy argued that the leaders of a nation should be on the par with sages or be a sage. Let that sink in for a moment.
a JBP video with no clickbait title???? im offended
@A M i'm satified
@A M much better!
"Jordan Peterson obliterates leftist professor, makes xer cry" better
@A M just died laughing holy shit
A M Then OBLITERATES the planet!
"Don't have a meeting with the door closed", if that does not scare you, you need to think about it again...
Could you elaborate for me? I'm trying to break it down but I dont feel as if I've gotten it completely. Is it because if the door is closed then one person can lie about something that happened and almost be validated just by the fact the door was shut rather than by presenting any imperial evidence to prove their claims??
@@jedr.3494 ding ding ding. Not to pick any sides here, there have been cases where such things have happened
Wizdom Werks agreed, as well it could create the feeling of being trapped. That feeling might increase someone’s awareness and read too much into the situation and perhaps even look for sexual advantages where there isn’t any.
Wizdom Werks partly but he’s also referring to the consequence rather than intent belief. So for instance, where consequence is believed over intent then manipulation of consequences are inevitable.
@@jedr.3494 empirical
Just read that this lady died not long after this interview. I have never come across her before but what a refreshing thing to watch two grown ups having a decent discussion. RIP young lady, you sounded a very interesting woman.
I'd love to see more conversations like this.
When I saw that Jordan Peterson was being interviewed by Christie Blatchford I immediately had to watch this video. It is so sad that we have lost such a great journalist. Rest in peace Christie Blatchford, we miss you.
Sad how so many people rely on political programming to govern their behavior instead of just innate common sense and personal morality.
The term "Common sense" is and always has been wishful thinking by intelligent people who fail to grasp that it's also a lie. There is no such thing as "Common sense."
@@Danny-oi8yl I wouldn't go so far as to say common sense doesnt exist, considering it was first spoken of by Aristotle as far as we know. In all honesty the history behind the term common sense is actually very interesting and encompasses a wide range meanings that have evolved from Aristotle's original idea of the term
Personal morality is illogical.
@@googletranslator9978 it's also inevitable.
We can kick and scream about it or we can deal with reality.
No joke. I thought common sense brain cells were part of the basic brains package like eat & shit. But our universities are full of people who either didn't get them or were talked into trading them in for pc cells. Are we sure universities are places of "higher" learning??!! ":-\
The fact that this person even took the time to NOT interrupt him all the time, let him talk, have meaningful questions, allow for intellectual dissent between them... I know this was going to be good. I love this type of discourse.
I love the part where he expressed his deep wish of punching a female critic in the face. As if that wasn't a complete violation of moral both for a public speaker AND A FUCKING MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL YOU ABSOLUTE POTATOES!
@@kaivogel253 Did he punch her? We all have thoughts of doing things we will not really do, you also
@@michaelcraig9449 he openly expressed his desire for violence and that violence is an option. This promotes violence. This is a mockery of the mindset of an actual medical professional. He is setting a dangerous example.
@@kaivogel253okay?
@@kaivogel253okay?
Hi, Folks.
Hats off to both of them, Jordan for his in-depth analysis and his ability to cut through the shit and to express his views simply and to Christie for her open-mindedness and curiosity.
A good video.
Just my 0.02.
You all have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
Wow. Great interview. Finally something engaging and curious without the needless confrontational questions he usually gets. Well done!
It's so refreshing to see someone discuss with Jordan Peterson in a rational manner, creating a proper, civilized and intellectual discussion.
@@jeniferdouglas Exactly! And I think it allows the discussion to go deeper, unlike with interviewers who have an agenda who force the guest to state the obvious every time as an attempt to counter ideology. I think like so many bad interviewers have prevented Jordan Peterson from going to a deeper side of the discussion, simply because the interviewers were too biased or clueless to handle it.
And, as you mentioned, having different sides being presented calmly and with as little bias as possible feels so much more intellectually stimulating.
As someone who has been a recipient of sexual harassment, I define it as repeated advances when it is clear that it is unwanted.
One guy that I was interviewing for a student paper when I was 18 grabbed me to keep me from leaving the room. When you have to overcome a person's defenses to have sexual contact with them, that should be a clue.
I think it goes beyond asking someone if they want to go out on a date and being turned down.
What you said is reasonable. Sadly, for some feminist extremists, almost anything can be (or not) a "microagression".
Thanks for explaining. This makes it so easy to understand.
Yeah, those are called serious criminals - they do wrong even after realising dat its wrng... But most of the pipol realises dat after one time.
And what he did is a direct harassment, not a micro agression ; i hope u reported him and if u didnt, hope he now knows what he did was wrng and regrets doing that :)
So this happened to you. All too often teenage boys and men overrule girls and women and force themselves on them and all to often they nag and continue on nagging until they get their way and some make it a little into a joke, but they all have one focus and that is getting "sex" no matter what and THAT is not what sex with consent looks like, but that is how you Rape! For it makes the female freeze and they in the end only give in because they can't think clearly no more and feel frozen and the freeze reaction is a survival reaction of the brain that makes it unable to refuse anymore and leave... So these overruling approaches are harmful and wrong and boys and men need to be raised to become better men in this area! Girls and women deserve respect!
@@mireilleronhaar5487 go get some milk
She's a pretty good interviewer, and listens.
beautiful interview. thanks for the discussion
I can already imagine the first civil claim for micro aggression. “He ruined my night out at the bar... I want $500”.
Agree. FYI My response to a charge of micro aggression in my behavior: an apology of micro (or better still, nano) proportions. Grow up, get a back bone and learn to live in a society where - heaven forbid - you might not be surrounded by a personal cheer squad.
Another example of micro aggressions is a society where sexist, demeaning comments exist everywhere: home, workplace, books, newspapers, television, politics, religion, etc.... These micro aggressions carry on for hundreds of years, leading up to a society where women are not treated with an equal amount of respect as men.
I can see how your example might be true too.
HAHAHAHAHA 500 ? try I want him imprisoned for life and 10,000,000.
@Mass acher You see, that's where we differ. Everyone has my respect to begin with, nobody has to earn it. Why would I treat a complete stranger with disrespect? They can however, do things to lose or diminish my respect, like you have just done.
Thank God for this conversation!
“Never have a meeting with a woman with the door closed “ this is our progress in 2020 !!
What's next???
@@starpooper1681 What's next? these people making LAWS...
I was told this in the 90's as I worked military police.
Great comment.
So sandwich is ok.
To all liberals and lefties out there, this is how you have a conversation about something important.
Notice no name calling, no wild assumptions, no accusations, no smearing, no crying, no screaming and no tantrums.... That's how it's done in a civilized society.
Pretty wild assumption that all lefties are like that. And suggesting the right doesn't have its own deranged (read any breitbart comment section). Extremism isn't partisan.
Chris T hate speech!
Marco Tonino yes it is.
@@Marco48375 Umm sorry to disappoint you but I don't read breitbart, but look at the comments under articles from the independent or guardian, the hate from the left in those comments is hilarious, so look at your own before pointing fingers. The right don't get it right all the time but they are right a lot more than the left are, why do you think the right is growing at a rate of knots? And no before you say it isn't because they are all racists or Nazi's, its Because the left are going so far left nowadays that we can't even see them.
And To be fair lefties are the most vocal and are the most violent, antifa being a prime example, the left are always bitching about something. And btw it was an appeal to all lefties to not be like that and if they are to change their ways for everyone's sake, Anyway what's wrong with generalising? That's what the left do the best isn't it? Calling everyone who voted for brexit a racist or a Nazi, or Trump voters being called racist and attacked if they where a MAGA hat. I've had to endure 4 years of name calling because the left couldn't accept Brexit, they acted like little children the whole way through, they are responsible for most of the division in our society today and if you don't agree with that then that's fine it's just my opinion.
@@tonyromano6220 Hahahahahhahaahah go find a safe space to crawl in to!! That's the problem with the left, anything you don't agree with is hate speech, look at my previous reply to the other guy, you are a perfect example of the people sewing division in our society. Hahaha hate speech, I still can't believe you wrote that 😂😂😂 so if it's hate speech I assume I must be silenced?? Why don't you write to RUclips and get me de-platformed, or better yet if it is actual hate speech send it to the police and try to silence me that way. You lot are hilarious I'm just so happy I'm not like you and definitely not a liberal leftie complaining constantly about every little thing and people who hold different opinions, it must be so exhausting being angry at everything and everyone, it's probably why they make no sense most of the time.
And my mind cant stop saying: ”That book is more blue than purple”.....
each time I listen to MR Peterson, I learn something new. thank you.
I love this, it’s an actual discussion with both parties actually listening to each other.
I love JP and I thank God for having an opportunity to listen to his arguments on various social problems and concerns... It almost feels like many of my ignorant walls are being shattered down through his logical and wise comments... I hope more people from our society listen to him and come to realization of what's right and what's wrong on many unfair prejudiced social issues at hand...this is a war on ideology....
Seriously? Are you honestly crying about "unfair prejudiced social issues" aimed at straight white men? The most dominant and privileged subset of people in human history? Stand up straight bucko, and stop playing the victim.
@@0228christian Go back to your gender studies and your safe spaces"bucko"' and let the grownups talk.
I was so shocked the day I heard of her passing.
A legendary Toronto journalist.
I miss Christie Blatchford. She was an old school crime reporter. Always enjoyed her take on criminal trials. RIP Christie.
"What are women now? We don't know."
I laughed at how simple that phrase is yet how much sense it makes given what he's discussing.
What were women before?
@סופר מן before were real women
Nowadays it's more like fake high ego goldiggers
Women - in rebellion against their Creator - are rejecting their own biological function in favour of being like men.
@@Helen-jr2xw doesn't matter.
@James feminism didn't started 60 years ago, it has been around for ages. Do your research first. And their role hasn't been "purely instinctive", they have been pushed into these gender roles by male oppression without letting them explore other areas as a group.
I could listen to these two talk all day. Such intelligence, understanding and respect.
You know things have gone really bad, when we are all happy to listen to a respectful, intelligent, normal conversation...
Bless this woman for not being defensive nor agressive with and to him.
I have huge respect for this interviewer, she's actually listening to someone else's opinion instead of injecting question after question to just ignore what point Peterson just made
ahh, a great conversation. It's nice to see someone jordan's talking to respond in a way other than "so what you're saying is..."
I m a left leaning humanist ...and not a conservative at all...but Dr Jordan s someone I can listen to for hours. He s so intellectually honest and he respects traditional gender roles. It's so rare in men and in intellectuals that it shines through him . Respect.
Heartening to see a true journalist!
Mr. Jordan, sir, you're such a blessing to humanity! Thank you for everything you be and do! You're the modern day Marcus Aurelius.
A video of intelligent discussion, can't say the same about the comment section though.
The only thing sillier than the comments a RUclips comments section is someone complaining about the RUclips comments section with a comment in the RUclips comments section.
I wholeheartedly agree. If someone wants to ramble on for pages and pages, they can make a video. Christ
i havent seen single comment against jordan peterson stop fishing for likes and attention and attacking opinions which are not even here
When is an action figure of Mr Peterson being created....!.?
The man's a legend
@@alegriart lol... That'll do..lol
@@alegriart don't be so literal 😏 there's Charles Xavier action figures, which is essentially the same except he touches his temple instead of the chin...
I'd buy it
he's a genius
Wow, she seems like one smart cookie. Prayers for more women like her.
She past away a week ago.
@@harrynac6017 ffs
@@YourPalHDee ?
@@harrynac6017 just sucks that somebody who actually adds to the world has passed away.
@@YourPalHDee Yeah
"Having never really had the fortune to spend any time in an Iranian prison, for example, they're not very good at distinguishing between what constitutes a tyranny and what constitutes a free society." So damn true.
I didn’t understand this. Please can you explain??
@@TChishi Recent generations growing up in western society have largely been spoiled by the high degree of freedoms they take for granted.
he's got my vote
cullou toltec ..for what
A Chakrabarty American presidency
Omabunne If only he was American
Omabunne too bad he's Canadian
I don't see him ever being a politician
I sometimes disagree with Jordan but I think he's right on here.
Brings to mind that actress who flipped and started hashtagging Metoo when an airport worker simply asked for her number. I guess nobody is allowed to talk to women anymore. Only women are allowed to do the propositioning to men because somehow that's okay and not at all hypocritical.
One example of an over-reaction isn't worth the millions of people that felt comforted and empowered by the #Metoo movement? Sorry not trying to be a keyboard warrior but genuinely interested to hear a reaction to this
Paul Mailhot Yeah that was Brie Larson. Makes me not wanna go watch Captain Marvel now.
Louis Parkes-Talbot Ashley Judd, Aziz Ansari, Chris Hardwick, etc.... the metoo movement is a joke.
I guess my knee-jerk response would be: Can you say with any certainty that the statistic of quarter of all women having been sexually assaulted (in America I assume you were referring to) is a false one? Do you expect the actual stat to be higher or lower? I can't think of a reliable enough source to provide us with any of these statistics, all I can attest to is how much better the #metoo movement made people feel. Many of my friends have said, and said at the time especially how they felt better knowing they were the only ones who'd had to deal with some kind of assault.
The stat might be wrong, and I know there have been many instances of people getting it wrong, over-reacting etc... But I still would see the movement as a positive, although it's certainly soured as it's gone on.
I would also say I think that people sometimes DO need a hashtag or movement to speak out about their problems. The embarrassment and weight of a sexual assault is grand, especially when you know speaking up about such a thing could cause a great deal of harm to the perpetrator of the offence, a lot of people can't bring themselves to say stuff like that.
Women shouldn't get to feel more safe? Because men will live in fear? No man I know is living in fear. Probably because I don't associate with men who would have any reason to fear this.
Of course, there are women and organizations who have taken advantage of this movement. That doesn't change what the movement is about - the very real culture of acceptance around sexual assault. Society had its chance to fix this, it didn't, so therefore #metoo arose in the void.
Dear Jordan, there's a song called "The Trees" by a Canadian band from Toronto.
That track warned us all long ago.
They need everyone objective (never subjective). Ergo, the "trees will be made equal, by hatchet, axe and saw"
Rock on, Sir.
The real question is, why do the mainstream media not want to have a genuine conversation and why do they want to mislead their audience?
The mainstream media are infiltrated by the CIA and they keep the status quo of divide and conquer. Project mockingbird is something that still exists
It’s not that they don’t want to have a genuine conversation or that they wish to mislead the public. It’s that the mainstream Western media positions itself as coming from a place of absolute objectivity and thus is merely asking the question to get at ‘the truth’. The problem is that absolute objectivity is impossible and we’re all coming from a particular perspective, both individual and social, and that perspective is imbued with values not facts. Facts are hard to establish. I can say that I saw that man kill another man, but to determine if it was murder requires much more information because he may have been defending himself (therefore not murder, but then of course there’s the concept of reasonable force, so did he go too far or could we discover later that he picked a fight so as to be able to take his life because the guy had had an affair with his partner - you see how complicated this becomes?). Since the 1980s (at least) the media has pushed this idea they they are ‘impartial’, but the methodology of interviewing is aggressive, with regular interruptions that are ostensibly geared towards uncovering the truth, but merely function to narrow down answers to (often, not always) a simple yes or no to a complicated question. I think what JP does brilliantly is expose the complexity of issues and this interview, as others have said, is a good example of an exploratory conversation, not a attempt to disprove what he’s saying. Of course it could easily equally be argued that she clearly agrees with his perspective and hence it’s not going to be an aggressive exchange. But that’s my point. It doesn’t have to be. The discussion can take place respectfully and without the rising hysteria of a kind of ‘I can’t believe you’re putting forward and supporting this perspective’ interaction.
Nathan Morris
Are the mainstream media a monolith? How have you determined that 'they' categorically do not want a genuine conversation, and with whom? Are you speaking of Peterson exclusively, or of all prospective guests? How can you verify that they 'want' to mislead their audience? Surely they have an agenda, but they may well be convinced of its rectitude. If their message is deceptive, consider that the possibility that they are deceived themselves (!), rather than intending to deceive. And you also are probably not immune to deception.
In the Bible, satan is described as 'god of this world', 'prince of the power of the air'. Do not imagine that his influence is limited to a certain portion of the ideological spectrum. Furthermore, humans are complicit in his evil. (Romans 3:23) 'For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.'
This is one of the few interviews where the interviewer doesn't put words in JP's mouth. Typically, the interviewers put words in JP's mouth, which then results in JP repeating the same phrase for half the runtime, "No, that's not what I said."
lmaaoo so true 😂😂😂
Her response to the micro aggression was like mine. Good grief!
Keeping the door open is really good advice... you never know where the lies will hide. In these times, you're playing with fire to underestimate the potential for personal disaster.
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