I admire you guys so much! You, because you didn’t let deceit stray you away from the Lord. Your husband, because he had wisdom to recognize the lies that you were being taught and he took the time to teach you the truth. May God continue to be the center of your marriage🤍.
It is wonderful that the damage and trauma caused by Gothard’s teachings have not swayed Jinger from God. Plus no man, including Gothard, can decide you are not godly because you don’t follow his ideas.
And I was almost crying to think after all these kids went thru how absolutely horrifically sad that they can’t escape the brainwashing that she legit was so indoctrinated she thinks there is a god and that religion has some sort of redeeming value rather than nothing but made up nonsense used for control purposes.
@@lijohnyoutube101 I’m agnostic but I still recognize faith is important to Jinger. I hate to see someone give up something they love regardless of how I feel about it.
I almost never leave comments…I just wanted to say that I also grew up under an oppressive legalistic Christian doctrine that twisted elements of scriptural truth with one pastor’s need for domination and control. In another video, Jinger used the word “disentanglement” rather than “deconstruction” to describe what she has done with her faith and it is a perfect word. She is a beautiful example of finding freedom in Christ. I have walked this same journey and disentangling the lies and indoctrination from the Truth without losing your faith is difficult but possible. I watched Shiny Happy People and while I was glad that it shed light on the evils of some legalistic religions, I was disappointed that at times, it painted all Christians, all homeschoolers, all large families, etc, in a bad light. There was no message of hope in Christ. Jinger made the right decision.
There are many of us who are finding ourselves in this situation. I also grew up in a situation like this. I am still 20 years later trying to find a road that I keep and pass my faith in God, but the "extras" that I can't meet up with scriptures I let go. I also have the issue that parents are still very much in the "faith"
Thank you for being an ambassador of Christ. Taking the time to show how scriptures were twisted AND still sharing the scriptures and the gospel THE TRUE WAY is an AMAZING feat. Praying God's Richest BLESSINGS on you, your family, and your ministry...and for the Lord to continue to use you for His glory...especially to open up the eyes of those being deceived.
I watched your podcast on the “unplanned podcast” and I was really blown away at how lucky I was as a young child. Many people that I know and were close to, followed Bill Gother’s teachings. After my brother attend one of his seminars, my parents decided that it was far to captivating and controlling, and did not let us pursue it any further. So many of the things I was taught as a young girl are the same principles and really I struggle with so many of the same issues as you do. Like obedience and submission in the family and worrying that God is going to strike you dead if you step out of line, I’m so grateful that I have been able to grow into the Christian woman that I am, trusting God that he will lead me and that I don’t have to follow like a blind sheep because God doesn’t call us to be a blind sheep he calls us to follow the Shepherd. A true Shepherd never leaves his flock of stray. It’s always the wolf who comes in with the appearance of being a shepherd that leads the flock of stray and we need to be wise enough to recognize which one is which. Bless you in your journey to freedom.
Jesus Christ Himself said that false teachers, "wolves in sheep's clothing", would subvert the truth of God's Holy Word, and would lead many people astray. I am so glad that Jinger and Jill and their families are out from under the thumb of this false teacher, ablnd are figuring out what true Christianity really is. I pray that the rest of the young Duggars see it, too, and renounce this false teacher as heretical to The Bible.
God bless y'all for your boldness to bring the truth to light and lift Jesus up in spite of past hurts. Jesus had no part of people's lies or control. Jesus sets us free from bondage. I'm so thankful Jinger has been truly set free through Jesus's love. You're so brave and such a beautiful woman of God!💞🙏✝️
I just want to say, i grew up watching your families "show" and i loved watching you all. I honestly felt bad for you guys a lot of the time...but you two guys were always my favorite couple. The realest, kindest. Keep going 🙏🏻
The Duggar family is not a good example of a Christian family. This is cult they were in. Everyone accepted men like Josh's behavior. I am glad these girls got away from that life. I pray for their healing.
Jinger was so correct! I went to two of his seminars myself and even sent my daughter. I am so very sorry for the life you have lived! May God use it to help others! God bless you!
All of the Duggar children have J names; so she spells it Jinger. It’s funny how she met her husband who also has a J name, Jeremy. They make a beautiful couple who really take their time to understand each other and to have a healthy relationship with each other and their respective families.
So if I understand correctly, Jinger, you are saying that you wanted the documentary to still support Christianity and how Gothard's teachings were a perversion of true Christianity and not Christianity itself. Is that what you were feeling?
Jinger, We’re so happy to see you thriving and walking with the Lord Jesus! ❤ We saw the dangers of the teachings and left the home fellowship after only 6 months or so. We loved your family and continued to remain in contact for a short time. But also felt the teachings were off and we exercised caution. Please pray for our oldest son, Aaron. (I don’t know if you remember him). He is so very lost and holds the short time we fellowshiped with your home church family as “ammunition” against us as “patriarchal, colonialist” haters. (even though we were only there for less than a year and left to find better theological teaching to protect our children!) He’s so very hard hearted and lost. I have hope in the Lord that He can save…!! But it is a long and painful road seeing your child stray. I’m so glad you have Dr. John MacArthur as a pastor/mentor. He’s so spot on!! Praise the Lord for all HE has done!! -❤Cathy Lemay
Ginger has been such the voice of reason (and grace) throughout all of this. Loved the show when my boys were young; it changed our life and gave me the encouragement I needed to raise my sons in Truth, discuss and live our faith. Yet as teens and nearly young adults, having a bigger theological discussion and watching the process. The hardship, the familial struggles, and the reality of life. It's hard to watch believers having to walk some of the darkest roads. Yet all things. Will always be thankful for the Duggars. Thanks Ginger; super appreciate you. While your parents did their best, and did many things right, thank you for bringing clarity to the Gothard teachings.
I’m happy she has escaped Gothard but MacArthers teachings are also greatly concerning. I think both her and Jill are still both trauma bonded to their parents (understandably) and as they age they will be able to open themselves up more to the realization of what happened.
I love your response, Jinger. That was the one thing that disappointed me about the documentary is that they demonized ALL Christianity instead of Bill Gothards' teachings
How did it “demonize Christianity” when multiple participants- including one of Jill’s very own sisters- are still very much Christians themselves? Please stop interpreting criticism of bad Christians as a slam against all of Christianity.
Not sure if you saw the series, but I didn't think they did anything poorly. I wasn't in IBLP, so I can't say anything from that perspective, but I thought they handled it professionally & respectfully.
Yes but they didn't point out that christianity is GOOD and Jesus Is Real. It just showed one "christian" issue and the damage it caused. Which isn't truly christian.
@@Goldrefinedthrufireif you want to learn about scripture or hear that Jesus is good or “real” or whatever else, read the Bible and go to church. That wasn’t the purpose of the documentary. That doesn’t make it un-Christian, it just makes YOU unable to understand nuance 😂😂
I am in awe of her for speaking out. She has grown so much since being married to Jeremy. You are truly her Knight in shining armor, saving her from that father of hers. For what he put his children through...there's a special place for men like him. Still time for him to redeem himself, though...God save his soul 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🙌🙌
God bless your precious family. Each and every one of you. Always consider the intent behind people’s decisions and actions. Your parents truly were trying to do what they thought was best. No doubt, they were deceived, but I believe their hearts were in the right place. You’re all precious and continue to change lives for the better by maintaining your Christian faith while telling your story. Peace be in all of your hearts.
There was a lot of misinformation in it as well. First, they called Wheaton college fundamentalist 😅 it’s actual growing quite more liberal for a Christian college. Nothing fundy about Wheaton. And this matters because I live in Wheaton and I’ve spoken with local people who now think Wheaton hates women! And they also used my friend’s picture, without her knowledge, a few times in association with Gothard! She was homeschooled but was never associated with him and does not support him.
I'm not religious, but I really admire your growth and the support you have in your relationship. It's really cool to see that you've maintained your connection to God despite the negativity you faced.
While I agree SHP was very eye opening to understand the IBLP. I also understand why she didn’t want to be apart of it. It didn’t sound like it was an easy decision to make for either her or Jill.
My parents were big believers in Gothard. So much so that they worked all their remaining days to break my spirit to confirm. I have a husband and my own family which they couldn’t respect. They disinherited me and were mean spirited people. They were exactly the opposite of what Christ wants us to be. Sadly my siblings all believe this to this day. We have to forgive even when it’s hard and not asked of us.
I was raised Baptist Pentecostal and I thought that the series was good but then after I watch the documentary, I am just utterly disgusted and I get props to the girls for saying something and still sticking with their faith. ❤
I love her book becoming free indeed, really has helped me in disentangling my own previous "Jesus PLUS" experience I have listened to it twice and recommend it highly!
So glad her could find the truth outside of her experience of what was taught to her as truth of God. So many people grow up in religious communities or homes with a horrible experience of total lies of who God is and end up hating God, but never realizing that the bad that they experience was just Satan biggest tricks, which is using the trauma of religion to damage and totally destroy our true relationship with God. God bless her and may God continue to use her for his kingdom. ✝️🙏🏽❤️
Jinger you’ve grown into such a beautiful woman inside and out! I had friends who liked Gothards teachings. I always thought they were weird and overbearing
I understand her view. Unless you know Christianity, its hard to get the whole picture secularly. This from a former Christian. Its hard to talk about this stuff with ppl who arent/were Christian
Was the program worth watching? We went to 2 seminars and homeschooled for a year (,hated it so lonely!). It really made me strive too. Bill Gothard was very deceptive. So strict and awful.
I didn't think the documentary did a good job at truly explaining what Bill Gothard's church is all about. I learn more about it from interviews with Jinger and the other Duggar's that have left.
I wonder if the duggards are still raising the kids this way- the blanket thing where they give the baby the toy and take it away is heart breaking- I hope the younger kids are ok
I remember people from my church back in the 1980s going to Bill Gothard events. It was very popular in a time when people were trying to keep families functioning and together as divorce rates continued to rise. It makes me sad that this organization abused people in the name of the church.😢
Can't wait for Shiny Happy JW version. I survived and got saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ. I want to be the first intervewee on Ex-jw watchtower wickeness
@jingerandjeremy how are your parents today? Is relationship whole? I struggle with a relationship w/ my mom bc of past childhood trauma (I was SA’d from 6-17 by her husband) she’s still with him & I will see her as long as he’s not around.
Remember, you are loved and your story is important. You can share as you like. Also, just because something doesn’t have the ‘Christian’ label doesn’t mean it won’t have anything redeeming. All truth is Gods truth.
Its sad to even think hed answer what he thought of his parenting now with an honest answer. We sadly know he'd blame yhe kids that it was their fault. And if he didnt "love them enough " it was on them.
I hope you don’t mind me asking but I’m just curious, are your parents still following bill Gothard? Or if they finally realizing how deceptive this man really was
Jinger, your parents and their tv show made you famous and propelled you into prosperity. Stop bashing your family. Without them you wouldn't have this amazing start
Jinger, a lot of these places they're not interacting in teaching the word of the Lord .....its all about money. So they twist words to their own convincing
I believe Jinger is awesome to come through the other side a functioning adult. I just don't understand why she can't speak her truth without it being controlled by her current religion. There are many forms of Christianity some good some bad. Is Jinger trying to push her own beliefs as the only way to worship or is she afraid something will be taken out of context? Sometimes Jinger comes across as being like Gothard. I'm not trying to put her down, I think she's a lovely woman. I just worry that she's traded one absolute belief system for another.
Very wise Jinger. You were correct & discerning. It was sad to see Jill possibly get taken advantage of using her story to make Christianity in general look bad. There is a separation for sure-Bill Gothards teaching were not Biblical. Once I saw DuMez in the documentary I knew they were using Jill to make your family look bad in general sadly. But I think most real Christians could definitely see the difference ❤
Yes, I watched the documentary and I felt that it basically criticized anyone who had conservative Christian views, when not all conservative Christians held those Bill Gothard or fundamentalist views and beliefs. I was turned off by that when I realized that was the opinion that I felt they were pushing. She was very wise not to be associated with the film for that reason.
You’ve become a beautiful strong young woman who’s come out on the other side having learned who you are and who God is. That’s beautiful. ❤✝️
I admire you guys so much! You, because you didn’t let deceit stray you away from the Lord. Your husband, because he had wisdom to recognize the lies that you were being taught and he took the time to teach you the truth. May God continue to be the center of your marriage🤍.
I admire so much that you have still held on to your faith
It is wonderful that the damage and trauma caused by Gothard’s teachings have not swayed Jinger from God. Plus no man, including Gothard, can decide you are not godly because you don’t follow his ideas.
And I was almost crying to think after all these kids went thru how absolutely horrifically sad that they can’t escape the brainwashing that she legit was so indoctrinated she thinks there is a god and that religion has some sort of redeeming value rather than nothing but made up nonsense used for control purposes.
@@larissatom6910there is of course no god’s and it’s actually deeply sad.
@@lijohnyoutube101 I’m agnostic but I still recognize faith is important to Jinger. I hate to see someone give up something they love regardless of how I feel about it.
@@larissatom6910 no one should have religious faith, it has severely ruined our species in so many ways.
I almost never leave comments…I just wanted to say that I also grew up under an oppressive legalistic Christian doctrine that twisted elements of scriptural truth with one pastor’s need for domination and control. In another video, Jinger used the word “disentanglement” rather than “deconstruction” to describe what she has done with her faith and it is a perfect word. She is a beautiful example of finding freedom in Christ. I have walked this same journey and disentangling the lies and indoctrination from the Truth without losing your faith is difficult but possible. I watched Shiny Happy People and while I was glad that it shed light on the evils of some legalistic religions, I was disappointed that at times, it painted all Christians, all homeschoolers, all large families, etc, in a bad light. There was no message of hope in Christ. Jinger made the right decision.
There are many of us who are finding ourselves in this situation. I also grew up in a situation like this. I am still 20 years later trying to find a road that I keep and pass my faith in God, but the "extras" that I can't meet up with scriptures I let go. I also have the issue that parents are still very much in the "faith"
@marshaaragon2336 Stay strong. Be confident in your independence and beliefs. God is the one that gave mankind freewill. ❤
I'm so proud of you for continuing to seek God after everything you've been through. You are an incredible woman.
Godly WOMEN are Empowered by the HOLY SPIRIT to BE all that THEY can BE in Order to DO Our FATHER’s WILL❣️🙏🏽❣️
Thank You Jinger for YOUR Testimony 💗
I fully support Jingers decision! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
The WISDOM! ❤
That show explained a lot ! Glad she got out & still has her faith👏🏻
Her parents kookoo in real life??
@@freedom4063 yes
@@megan807 yikes. How? What happend to them all??? 😢
@@freedom4063Oh stop you know about Josh and their creepy father.
Local Santa Clarita grandma here. Watched your old show and enjoyed the familyness of it. I'm glad you've discovered your freedom in Christ❤
Thank you for being an ambassador of Christ. Taking the time to show how scriptures were twisted AND still sharing the scriptures and the gospel THE TRUE WAY is an AMAZING feat. Praying God's Richest BLESSINGS on you, your family, and your ministry...and for the Lord to continue to use you for His glory...especially to open up the eyes of those being deceived.
Jinger that is exactly what the documentary demonstrated. Jill is so brave, you should be so proud & supportive of her.
There are ALOT of us that are in support of you.
I watched your podcast on the “unplanned podcast” and I was really blown away at how lucky I was as a young child. Many people that I know and were close to, followed Bill Gother’s teachings. After my brother attend one of his seminars, my parents decided that it was far to captivating and controlling, and did not let us pursue it any further. So many of the things I was taught as a young girl are the same principles and really I struggle with so many of the same issues as you do. Like obedience and submission in the family and worrying that God is going to strike you dead if you step out of line, I’m so grateful that I have been able to grow into the Christian woman that I am, trusting God that he will lead me and that I don’t have to follow like a blind sheep because God doesn’t call us to be a blind sheep he calls us to follow the Shepherd. A true Shepherd never leaves his flock of stray. It’s always the wolf who comes in with the appearance of being a shepherd that leads the flock of stray and we need to be wise enough to recognize which one is which. Bless you in your journey to freedom.
Jesus Christ Himself said that false teachers, "wolves in sheep's clothing", would subvert the truth of God's Holy Word, and would lead many people astray. I am so glad that Jinger and Jill and their families are out from under the thumb of this false teacher, ablnd are figuring out what true Christianity really is. I pray that the rest of the young Duggars see it, too, and renounce this false teacher as heretical to The Bible.
its astray not of stray
God bless y'all for your boldness to bring the truth to light and lift Jesus up in spite of past hurts. Jesus had no part of people's lies or control. Jesus sets us free from bondage. I'm so thankful Jinger has been truly set free through Jesus's love. You're so brave and such a beautiful woman of God!💞🙏✝️
Love you Jinger. God bless you . ❤️☝️♥️
God bless you 💓 your helping many who are deceived.
That was the wisest choice you could have made, totally agree with your thought process.
I just want to say, i grew up watching your families "show" and i loved watching you all. I honestly felt bad for you guys a lot of the time...but you two guys were always my favorite couple. The realest, kindest. Keep going 🙏🏻
The Duggar family is not a good example of a Christian family. This is cult they were in. Everyone accepted men like Josh's behavior. I am glad these girls got away from that life. I pray for their healing.
Jinger was so correct! I went to two of his seminars myself and even sent my daughter. I am so very sorry for the life you have lived! May God use it to help others! God bless you!
What happened??
Why would you send your kids to a place like that?
I see the best thing about this is you all have not let this scandalousness crush your faith! Congratulations❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
You are such a strong Woman! I admire you so much because you went through all of that And held on to your faith. i fully support you!
Yay, Jinger! Im glad she's able to speak about her life and her truth. ❤
❤😂🎉Thankyou Ginger for staying with Jesus and his love.
All of the Duggar children have J names; so she spells it Jinger. It’s funny how she met her husband who also has a J name, Jeremy.
They make a beautiful couple who really take their time to understand each other and to have a healthy relationship with each other and their respective families.
Thank God those girls marry so young. Jinger found a good guy in Jeremy. He has been instrumental in showing her what real love and living life is.
So if I understand correctly, Jinger, you are saying that you wanted the documentary to still support Christianity and how Gothard's teachings were a perversion of true Christianity and not Christianity itself. Is that what you were feeling?
Jinger, We’re so happy to see you thriving and walking with the Lord Jesus! ❤ We saw the dangers of the teachings and left the home fellowship after only 6 months or so. We loved your family and continued to remain in contact for a short time. But also felt the teachings were off and we exercised caution. Please pray for our oldest son, Aaron. (I don’t know if you remember him). He is so very lost and holds the short time we fellowshiped with your home church family as “ammunition” against us as “patriarchal, colonialist” haters. (even though we were only there for less than a year and left to find better theological teaching to protect our children!) He’s so very hard hearted and lost. I have hope in the Lord that He can save…!! But it is a long and painful road seeing your child stray. I’m so glad you have Dr. John MacArthur as a pastor/mentor. He’s so spot on!! Praise the Lord for all HE has done!! -❤Cathy Lemay
Amen jinger, hold on to your integrity sis. God Bless You 🙏❤️
It may not be specifically Christian but they are being Christ-like I'm honoring truth and compassion, and supporting the oppressed
Ginger has been such the voice of reason (and grace) throughout all of this. Loved the show when my boys were young; it changed our life and gave me the encouragement I needed to raise my sons in Truth, discuss and live our faith. Yet as teens and nearly young adults, having a bigger theological discussion and watching the process. The hardship, the familial struggles, and the reality of life. It's hard to watch believers having to walk some of the darkest roads. Yet all things.
Will always be thankful for the Duggars. Thanks Ginger; super appreciate you. While your parents did their best, and did many things right, thank you for bringing clarity to the Gothard teachings.
Well explained! I totally get what u are saying!
I’m happy she has escaped Gothard but MacArthers teachings are also greatly concerning. I think both her and Jill are still both trauma bonded to their parents (understandably) and as they age they will be able to open themselves up more to the realization of what happened.
Agree!!!!! She went from one "cult like" to an other.
@@susiedyck4914Exactly. And what she is implying about Jill is very telling.
I love your response, Jinger. That was the one thing that disappointed me about the documentary is that they demonized ALL Christianity instead of Bill Gothards' teachings
Good to know. I haven’t seen it.
That's how they do it in Hollywood bc so many of them are satanists.
I didn’t get that they demonized all religion, just gothard. But I totally respect her decision and I’m so happy the older sisters are still in touch.
How did it “demonize Christianity” when multiple participants- including one of Jill’s very own sisters- are still very much Christians themselves?
Please stop interpreting criticism of bad Christians as a slam against all of Christianity.
Care to point out where exactly?
Not sure if you saw the series, but I didn't think they did anything poorly. I wasn't in IBLP, so I can't say anything from that perspective, but I thought they handled it professionally & respectfully.
Yes but they didn't point out that christianity is GOOD and Jesus Is Real. It just showed one "christian" issue and the damage it caused. Which isn't truly christian.
@@GoldrefinedthrufireLOL. sure.
@@Goldrefinedthrufireif you want to learn about scripture or hear that Jesus is good or “real” or whatever else, read the Bible and go to church. That wasn’t the purpose of the documentary. That doesn’t make it un-Christian, it just makes YOU unable to understand nuance 😂😂
100% Your instincts were correct!
I think she's very protective of her parents. She still doesn’t hold them responsible for what they did
Love you two. Keep going 🙌🏼
I am in awe of her for speaking out. She has grown so much since being married to Jeremy. You are truly her Knight in shining armor, saving her from that father of hers. For what he put his children through...there's a special place for men like him. Still time for him to redeem himself, though...God save his soul 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙌🙌🙌
I love your relationships to God & each other. He truly brought your 2 together❤❤
I'm wondering at what point does jinger ever hold her parents responsible for their behavior?
I think she has but I don't believe she would give up on her family because of it . But I do believe she holds then accountable
I never watched it, I watched yall from the beginning, wasn't ready to see this to be honest ❤
God bless your precious family. Each and every one of you. Always consider the intent behind people’s decisions and actions. Your parents truly were trying to do what they thought was best. No doubt, they were deceived, but I believe their hearts were in the right place. You’re all precious and continue to change lives for the better by maintaining your Christian faith while telling your story. Peace be in all of your hearts.
There was a lot of misinformation in it as well. First, they called Wheaton college fundamentalist 😅 it’s actual growing quite more liberal for a Christian college. Nothing fundy about Wheaton. And this matters because I live in Wheaton and I’ve spoken with local people who now think Wheaton hates women! And they also used my friend’s picture, without her knowledge, a few times in association with Gothard! She was homeschooled but was never associated with him and does not support him.
Well said, jinger.
She is amazing!
When leaving a cult you grew up in its very hard to sort out what you do believe and want to hold onto and what you throw out. It can take a lifetime.
I'm not religious, but I really admire your growth and the support you have in your relationship. It's really cool to see that you've maintained your connection to God despite the negativity you faced.
While I agree SHP was very eye opening to understand the IBLP. I also understand why she didn’t want to be apart of it. It didn’t sound like it was an easy decision to make for either her or Jill.
My parents were big believers in Gothard. So much so that they worked all their remaining days to break my spirit to confirm. I have a husband and my own family which they couldn’t respect. They disinherited me and were mean spirited people. They were exactly the opposite of what Christ wants us to be. Sadly my siblings all believe this to this day. We have to forgive even when it’s hard and not asked of us.
I was raised Baptist Pentecostal and I thought that the series was good but then after I watch the documentary, I am just utterly disgusted and I get props to the girls for saying something and still sticking with their faith. ❤
I agree. Her life has been so exploited. She's smart for not going on, not have editing control
Thank you.
I'm so happy you are free indeed😊🌻
I felt like the documentary tried to paint all Christians with the same brush as IBLP. She was right to not participate.
Oh how I agree with you ❤
She is such a lovely Christian woman. I really admire her.
I love her book becoming free indeed, really has helped me in disentangling my own previous "Jesus PLUS" experience I have listened to it twice and recommend it highly!
Love you both so much ❤️
So glad her could find the truth outside of her experience of what was taught to her as truth of God. So many people grow up in religious communities or homes with a horrible experience of total lies of who God is and end up hating God, but never realizing that the bad that they experience was just Satan biggest tricks, which is using the trauma of religion to damage and totally destroy our true relationship with God. God bless her and may God continue to use her for his kingdom. ✝️🙏🏽❤️
Jinger you’ve grown into such a beautiful woman inside and out! I had friends who liked Gothards teachings. I always thought they were weird and overbearing
Jinger, you are in the same type of church now. It's just watered down a bit and not quite as extreme.
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All honor and glory to God to His Sovereign grace.
Such a beautiful lady
Wise woman. She did not leave God and that is a miracle and blessing.
I understand her view. Unless you know Christianity, its hard to get the whole picture secularly. This from a former Christian. Its hard to talk about this stuff with ppl who arent/were Christian
Love Jinger. And love your shirt- where is it from?
Was the program worth watching? We went to 2 seminars and homeschooled for a year (,hated it so lonely!). It really made me strive too.
Bill Gothard was very deceptive. So strict and awful.
I didn't think the documentary did a good job at truly explaining what Bill Gothard's church is all about. I learn more about it from interviews with Jinger and the other Duggar's that have left.
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I have a ton of respect for her
I wonder if the duggards are still raising the kids this way- the blanket thing where they give the baby the toy and take it away is heart breaking- I hope the younger kids are ok
I remember people from my church back in the 1980s going to Bill Gothard events. It was very popular in a time when people were trying to keep families functioning and together as divorce rates continued to rise. It makes me sad that this organization abused people in the name of the church.😢
The documentary was shocking
I didn’t know Jinger produced the documentary. Where can I view it?
Can't wait for Shiny Happy JW version. I survived and got saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ. I want to be the first intervewee on Ex-jw watchtower wickeness
The girls wanted to get away from Jim Bob and Josh.
@jingerandjeremy how are your parents today? Is relationship whole? I struggle with a relationship w/ my mom bc of past childhood trauma (I was SA’d from 6-17 by her husband) she’s still with him & I will see her as long as he’s not around.
And yet she still seeks a public life after all her parents allowed their children to go through ..
“The system” it’s the cult babe
She is very wise.
Remember, you are loved and your story is important. You can share as you like.
Also, just because something doesn’t have the ‘Christian’ label doesn’t mean it won’t have anything redeeming. All truth is Gods truth.
You were smart Jinger!
She wanted people to buy her book, peak peoples interest is the game.
Harvey is such a cute name!!!! 😍
Its sad to even think hed answer what he thought of his parenting now with an honest answer. We sadly know he'd blame yhe kids that it was their fault. And if he didnt "love them enough " it was on them.
Love you guys but man there’s like 4 or 5 big ad breaks. Ugh
I just wish her parents could wake up and realize what damage has been done by his teachings
Because she's still a people pleaser to her parents and she won't speak out about them.
You don't owe anyone an answer for the decisions you make in your life.
I hope you don’t mind me asking but I’m just curious, are your parents still following bill Gothard? Or if they finally realizing how deceptive this man really was
She looks like the Olsen twins
I want to know of Jim Bob Duggar still believes in Bill Gothard?
Jinger, your parents and their tv show made you famous and propelled you into prosperity. Stop bashing your family. Without them you wouldn't have this amazing start
Jinger, a lot of these places they're not interacting in teaching the word of the Lord .....its all about money. So they twist words to their own convincing
I believe Jinger is awesome to come through the other side a functioning adult. I just don't understand why she can't speak her truth without it being controlled by her current religion. There are many forms of Christianity some good some bad. Is Jinger trying to push her own beliefs as the only way to worship or is she afraid something will be taken out of context? Sometimes Jinger comes across as being like Gothard. I'm not trying to put her down, I think she's a lovely woman. I just worry that she's traded one absolute belief system for another.
Very wise Jinger. You were correct & discerning. It was sad to see Jill possibly get taken advantage of using her story to make Christianity in general look bad. There is a separation for sure-Bill Gothards teaching were not Biblical. Once I saw DuMez in the documentary I knew they were using Jill to make your family look bad in general sadly. But I think most real Christians could definitely see the difference ❤
Do your parents still subscribe to the bill gothard teachings
So what religion and Christian teachings are these Girls following now?
Maybe you could have brought the redeeming fact too so many damage hurting people from religion. Show them Jesus!
Yes, I watched the documentary and I felt that it basically criticized anyone who had conservative Christian views, when not all conservative Christians held those Bill Gothard or fundamentalist views and beliefs. I was turned off by that when I realized that was the opinion that I felt they were pushing. She was very wise not to be associated with the film for that reason.