This RC Jet Flies Just Like a Super Hornet - FMS F/A-18F 70mm Review

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @highalpharc
    @highalpharc 9 месяцев назад +6

    After crashing 3 jets and about $1600 worth of toys today, I'm seriously considering getting some of the smaller models. I wish this was the single pilot version, since I want to do Maverick's livery and the Freewing 90mm is a Hornet version. I can't wait until they make a 80/90mm Super Hornet and a 80/90mm size F-35!

  • @jsean13
    @jsean13 Год назад +6

    Bro... So I put an xfly 70mm in mine and it's a beast. I have a video on my page with a GoPro in the canopy. My fav jet

  • @vemonguy686
    @vemonguy686 6 месяцев назад +3

    I used to work on the flight deck when I was in the navy. I worked with the Super Hornets daily. It’s always been a dream of mine to fly one of these.
    While not the same thing, I hope an FPV setup in one of these will suffice

  • @airprok8328
    @airprok8328 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hornet, always a winner! Beautiful jet and flying!

  • @elijahjackson1134
    @elijahjackson1134 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yes that is an awesome plane to fly. Aerobatic bigtime. I flew mine and actually wore out the foam lol from flying it really hard. I did install the xfly models 70mm fan to perk it up. I highly recommend this model. But i do agree the finish is rough. FMS would do well to make a lightweight version in 80mm but full flying slab.

  • @jeffbrundt7740
    @jeffbrundt7740 Год назад +1

    Love mine. I use a 6s 4000 pack. Fits perfectly and CG is spot on. Not as fast as a 70mm F-16 or Yak-130 but it's definitely locked in. It does seem to fly like a bigger, heavier jet but very positive. FMS did a great job on this one.

  • @88lo-90
    @88lo-90 Год назад

    Hahahaah “let’s cut to the chase “ love it …I’ve had this jet for about 6 months now and it’s definitely a favorite of mine from speed to sound to mechanisms…I was just waiting for your unbiased opinion to prove some naysayers wrong…great job my boy

  • @robertchapman7773
    @robertchapman7773 Год назад +1

    Great informative video. I like it when you show the 2 flights ,with and without gyro. It really covers the entire market of flyers that way. When I see a plane that I like flown without gyro, I dont take it in as much since I am a gyro flyer. I thank you for pointing out the imperfections as some of us display our planes, making appearance a factor.
    The flight itself was fantastic. It reflected the capabilities very well and also the durability.
    Definitely one I will consider when back in stock.
    Thanks again
    Bob

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Note that this jet will fly fine without a gyro *if you're not flying it tail heavy* like we are. Full scale fighter jets are flown relatively tail heavy compared to most RC pilot CGs, which is one of several reasons why full scale fighters are more agile. Getting the CG right and using a gyro to compensate for the CG shift makes your jet perform like a fighter.

    • @robertchapman7773
      @robertchapman7773 Год назад

      @Two Brothers Radio Control absolutely agree. I do like to see the odd plane demo with gyro as it is helpful to those of us that havent gained the condidence in our skills just yet. Great job Jon

  • @notoo7
    @notoo7 Год назад +2

    It's definitely one of my favorites. Nice flying.

  • @Shauncat1
    @Shauncat1 Год назад +1

    Sounds awesome too

  • @ahoyskid
    @ahoyskid 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice. Would love to fly one of these!

  • @Lilttlejan
    @Lilttlejan Год назад

    I have this jet and I have to say it one of the best jet beside my f22

  • @COMNAVAIRPAC1998
    @COMNAVAIRPAC1998 6 месяцев назад +1

    Love the FMS 18.

  • @SoldierBoy3064
    @SoldierBoy3064 11 месяцев назад

    I love it and want one... might wait till I'm not a beginner

  • @ojeezrc
    @ojeezrc Год назад

    Great flight , I got the 64mm version ,but I bet this 70mm is way better 🗣️💯

  • @benosborne7890
    @benosborne7890 Год назад +4

    the best thing is that its a 70. they're a bit more expendable and I find that expendable planes make for a more comfortable and fun experience

  • @Ajuzu6
    @Ajuzu6 Год назад

    Friggin awesome

  • @Joe_Zajac
    @Joe_Zajac Год назад

    Seems like this would be easier to fly than the FMS Viper 70mm, which has not-so-great stall characteristics. Great video. Looks like a great EDF!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      The Viper's great for teaching how to handle stalls and avoid them. This one can be thrown around a bit more though!

  • @ficosk8
    @ficosk8 5 дней назад +1

    Hi Jon! I was liking this jet because of the size, because of being FMS quality and their 70mm power system. But I did not know it cannot perform nice high alphas, landing gear is narrow and maybe tricky in grass and it can be twitchy. The pros are, very fast (did not imagine that with that wing proportions compared to the F16teens) and agile. I’ll keep thinking about this 🤣 Dropping an 8S ESC and 7S Lipo would deliver some good speed also 😅 Thanks!
    Ohh and I thought the wings would be rocking because of the angle when landing plus the full span flaps (?) ? But it seems there isn’t a slower way to land

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  5 дней назад +1

      Could've sworn we mentioned it won't perform a high alpha pass in this vid.

    • @ficosk8
      @ficosk8 5 дней назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Yes you did mentioned that! :)

  • @olivierrobert7129
    @olivierrobert7129 Год назад

    Great.

  • @northernrcflyer
    @northernrcflyer Месяц назад

    Thanks for another great review. I may have missed it, but do you mind sharing what settings you used for flaps? Did you use any mix?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Месяц назад

      Thanks! Unfortunately we don't fly this jet anymore, but the flap settings should require minimal to no trim at all. Try it and adjust until it's where you like it.

  • @EngineNoise305
    @EngineNoise305 Год назад

    Not sure if it needs it but you can get more up elevator authority if you point both rudders inward when pulling up. The drag above and behind the CG and center of pressure will rotate the nose up. The real hornet does this. It would be cool to see how much of a difference this makes in rc.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      That is something to consider, thanks for the suggestion! We've used it on the 90mm Freewing variant but weren't sure if it was worthwhile for the 70mm.

    • @EngineNoise305
      @EngineNoise305 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC oh cool I have to watch that video. I wonder how much of a difference it made.

  • @madsimoninsky
    @madsimoninsky Год назад +1

    if you set the plane up correct it will fly smooth without a gyro , gyros are for learners

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Hey, thanks for the quote. This will go into the upcoming video regarding gyros and why people like you have no idea what you're talking about.

  • @JohnnyCash-pi5hw
    @JohnnyCash-pi5hw 4 месяца назад

    I MeAn I oWn OnE sO yEaH

  • @mrniceguybaseballcards8486
    @mrniceguybaseballcards8486 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, that its amazing! I’ll guess this is not an entry level model for beginners right?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  9 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely not.

  • @mach9908
    @mach9908 Год назад +1

    The only reason stops me from buying it is the horizontal stab... FMS should really update with a full-moving stab.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      They should, but if you get it tail heavy with a gyro you won't really notice it in the air.

  • @travisjacobus3381
    @travisjacobus3381 Год назад +1

    Awesome! I’ve been waiting for this video. Waiting for some better weather to maiden mine. Do you mind if I ask what your AS3X gains are set to? I’ve removed the reflex and am using the same receiver as you 👍 and the stock settings at x1 doesn’t seem to move the control surfaces as much as I’m used to seeing when tilting it around by hand.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      2x gain, 15 roll, 50 pitch, 10 yaw. It's on relative gains that are controlled by the throttle setting using a curved mix. More throttle reduces gain, less throttle increases it. When flaps are dropped, it produces the most effect around 25% throttle to stabilize the jet during landing.

    • @travisjacobus3381
      @travisjacobus3381 Год назад +1

      @@TwoBrosRC gotcha! I’ve seen you do the throttle based stabilization on other models! Thanks for the quick response.

    • @travisjacobus3381
      @travisjacobus3381 Год назад +1

      One thing I noticed, it can use springs with less tension for the main gear. They are really stiff for my liking out of the box for the light weight of this jet.

  • @tructran8783
    @tructran8783 Год назад

    Did you change the stock FMS servos with better servos? If so ? Which servos did you use? Thanks, Sir.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      Nope, they're all stock servos.

  • @calircpilot4261
    @calircpilot4261 Год назад

    I am elated that someone resurrected this great jet. I have mine and yet to maiden it. Very interested on your setups although I paired mine with an 8 channel smart receiver and the original FMS stabilizer that came with it. Note that mine came with reverse thrust which I have set up ready. Can you share your full setups and throws please? THANK YOU!!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      There's no special setup here - all we're using is 150% throws. Check the chapter called "Rates & Expo" or something to that effect to hear us call it out.

    • @calircpilot4261
      @calircpilot4261 Год назад

      OK, setting mine up to 150% throws, then your expo settings.. I will watch it again. Thanks again!

  • @fhdproductions1722
    @fhdproductions1722 2 месяца назад

    The gyro you speak off, is that the same as Spectrums AS3X

  • @williamhammond3998
    @williamhammond3998 Год назад

    I'd like to see what AS3X gains you are using or this model!

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Check the comments, we've posted it a few times. :)

  • @ernestostrman5147
    @ernestostrman5147 Год назад

    Hey Jon. You been using SMC HV packs on almost all FMS jets and they all have Predator ESC. Did you have to program ESC for HV pack. I know few people that had crashes since esc shut down after like 1:30min of flight. It seems ESC wrongly sees voltage and makes cut-off thinking battery is at cut-off voltage. I want to order those pack when they will be available in EU(in few week) but not sure if am gona have problems. Also ordered HobbyWing FlyFun V5 ESC programming card. Thank you for your answer! I ordered this plane form China it should arrive in 2-3 weeks.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +2

      Most of our FMS ESCs work fine with the HV packs we use. The only one that hasn't played well is the ESC in the P-40, which reduces thrust down to 40% after it gets below 15.8v. A simple fix for this is if you hear 5 beeps (4s) or 7 beeps (6s), fly it until it drops below 16.8v or 25.2v and then land, unplug and reconnect, then fly again.

  • @M4rkmcc21
    @M4rkmcc21 Год назад

    Jon would u say this and the F16 are different enough to own both or are they similar in flight character but one is better? Just trying to decide which to buy. Cheers

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +2

      They're definitely nothing alike in flight characteristics, at least not at the CG we've used on both jets. The F-16 is still pretty docile even with a 3600 shoved to the back. The F/A-18 is tail heavy with a 3600 at the back. This makes it significantly more fun (and definitely requires a pitch gyro for precision/stability) to fly for us compared to the F-16.

    • @M4rkmcc21
      @M4rkmcc21 Год назад

      @Two Brothers Radio Control thanks man. F18 it 👍🏾

  • @tructran8783
    @tructran8783 Год назад

    Wow... awesome flying. Do you fly stock F18 and use the stock reflex gyro that comes with the jet? Thx.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Nope, it's using a Spektrum AR637T via bit.ly/3dCjiuO with self-programmed AS3X gains.

  • @samuelsherwood298
    @samuelsherwood298 Год назад

    I have this plane as well, but im afraid to do any loops or rolls with it all because i have 2 warbirds , 1 i have as3x only with the spectrum 637 reciever and it will not ,et me do a loop or roll. The other warbird is the same way. So when i try and loop it smacks me right out of it and turns me a different dierection. I have the spectrum 637 in this jet. Is ther anyway to have as3x and have full acrobatics?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/R3jLUAd5dVM/видео.html
      This should cover it.

  • @parvindersingh1506
    @parvindersingh1506 Год назад

    Great information 🎉, what is the price?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Open the link in the description.

  • @velocistafpv
    @velocistafpv Год назад

    Jon, how would u compare the flight performance of this to the 80mm E-Flite/FMS F/A-18? I wanted to get the 70mm but my local shop was totally out, so I got the 80mm one instead. The 80mm doesn't have a gyro and I'm looking at putting a Hobbyeagle A3 Super 4 in it (Spektrum stuff aren't available in my neck of the woods, so no AS3X).

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +2

      This is a better jet overall than the 80mm. It has too many problems to recommend. It's a good jet if you want something to look at on the ground, but it isn't something you'd want to fly unless you're willing to put in way too much work to ensure that the stabilators don't come loose, or that the nose gear doesn't get messed up.

    • @velocistafpv
      @velocistafpv Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC thanks for the honest advice. Saw ur review of the Blue Angels' F/A-18. And yes, I do feel the stabs are somewhat dodgy but hell yes it looks real good on the ground. Will think of something to tell the missus that I need another F-18. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ltk20
    @ltk20 Год назад

    Nice flying! When you added the 637T did you remove the built in reflex? Seems redundant.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Yes, you should always use a single gyro. The AR637T could be used with the Reflex gyro but only if the AS3X system isn't set up.

    • @ltk20
      @ltk20 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC sounds good. I’ve never owned anything that isn’t e-flite. Eyeing some cool birds that you’ve posted on here from other companies, but was curious if there’s a benefit of using reflex over as3x/safe. Looking closely at the f-15 and f-22. Will most likely toss a 637T in either

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      @@ltk20 If you're already using a Spektrum radio, there's no benefit to using Reflex gyros over a Spektrum ARXXX receiver. Forward Programming receivers to adjust them on the fly is an integral part of the Spektrum ecosystem. You don't get that with Reflex, and it isn't as powerful because it can't emulate all of the wing and tail types that a Spektrum gyro can.

    • @ltk20
      @ltk20 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC sounds good, thanks for the good info. Years ago I got a bunch of rides in the F-15 with the same Eglin tail markings on it. It was the first plane I ever got to fly even before my ppl. I’m leaning towards that bird for nostalgic reasons even though the -22 probably flys better. Great reviews on both btw!

  • @flyingfools47
    @flyingfools47 Год назад

    What AS3X gains and sensitivity do you use for this

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      2x gain, 15 roll, 50 pitch, 10 yaw. lt's on relative
      gains that are controlled by the throttle setting
      using a curved mix. More throttle reduces gain,
      less throttle increases it. When flaps are
      dropped, it produces the most effect around
      25% throttle to stabilize the jet during landing.

  • @nirlachman007
    @nirlachman007 Год назад

    Great video guys!! How does it feel compared to the FW F-18 90mm?
    Also Jon, can you please share your AS3X gains for this model?
    Thanks man ❤

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +2

      2x gain, 15 roll, 50 pitch, 10 yaw. It's on relative gains that are controlled by the throttle setting using a curved mix. More throttle reduces gain, less throttle increases it. When flaps are dropped, it produces the most effect around 25% throttle to stabilize the jet during landing.
      It handles similar to the 90mm Freewing jet but it's a little more stable at the cost of being somewhat less agile.

    • @nirlachman007
      @nirlachman007 Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC amazing! Thank you for teaching us how to use the gyro correctly. It’s a really game changer

    • @icyphotons
      @icyphotons Год назад

      @@TwoBrosRC Would you recommend these settings for most planes? is there a reason pitch is so high on the f-18 specifically?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +2

      Because it's tail heavy at the CG we're using. Stability is most needed in the pitch axis.

  • @qnoorani
    @qnoorani Год назад

    cab you show the battery placement?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      As far back as possible.

    • @qnoorani
      @qnoorani Год назад

      @Two Brothers Radio Control Thanks for the reply. I tried that however it made the plane tail heavy. The plane is completely factory and with out any armaments to make it as light as possible. I'm using a spectrum AR637T with as3x enabled. moving the battery forward makes it difficult to rotate off of grass. Battery I'm using is spektrum 6S 3200 smart battery. Any suggestions?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад +1

      @@qnoorani We did mention that we're using a lot of pitch gain to compensate for the tail heaviness. Try that!

  • @iknoor1521
    @iknoor1521 Год назад

    Is there any way you can put a G meter, so that we can see how my G force a rc plan can pull ?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      It already has one. You'll hear it call out in the vid.

    • @randomstatements8034
      @randomstatements8034 Год назад

      How did you get a g meter

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      It's part of our AR637T receiver: bit.ly/3dCjiuO

  • @jimmymarockircstuff2289
    @jimmymarockircstuff2289 Год назад

    Will it fly off of grass?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Absolutely, if it's low-cut grass.

  • @redwineisfine
    @redwineisfine Год назад

    I thought the flight characteristics were great but the canopy lock... the fit and finish... and the lack of takeoff power were a little disappointing
    I really wish FMS would Would update this edf with better electronics and canopy like the Yak-130

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Lack of power? It had plenty from what we could tell. Fit and finish is definitely an issue though.

    • @redwineisfine
      @redwineisfine Год назад

      @Two Brothers Radio Control i crashed mine on the maiden after it was full power down the runway 50-60 yards... nothing like the Yak-130... or the Viper 70mm
      Love the way it flew.. the rear stabs were amazing with rolls with the ailerons.. but.. man the canopy... i am using packaging tape to secure it now..
      Definitely deserves a v2 update..
      But i could be wrong

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      It's using a FMS 1900kv inrunner, definitely isn't lacking for power. Did you calibrate the ESC before flying? That would probably be the issue. That or a battery that can't keep up with the power load.

    • @redwineisfine
      @redwineisfine Год назад

      @Two Brothers Radio Control yes sir calibrated esc running a 50c smart 4000mAh.. all the same as my Yak-130 and Viper 70mm
      Hell, i run the smc 5000mAh in the Viper and Yak-130 on Windy Days for a little bit more stability

  • @samuelsherwood298
    @samuelsherwood298 Год назад

    Will not try it with this jet because its fast. The warbirds are much slower so 8 can bring it back to me in time, again ,how do 8 keep my as3x and have full acro?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      We're not sure what you're asking here specifically.

  • @GlobalDefenceForce_694
    @GlobalDefenceForce_694 Год назад

    *where to buy? *

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Link's in the description.

  • @larsulrich3356
    @larsulrich3356 Год назад

    How do you think an f-117 flight controls are mixed?ruclips.net/video/EwKIJtQWleI/видео.html I am thinking about getting one when they're available. Yaw controls?

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Try Googling it - there's probably a wealth of info on it.

  • @ramlidon7520
    @ramlidon7520 3 месяца назад

    I want to buy these product but I Don't have any money

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  3 месяца назад

      That's unfortunate.

  • @Richard_Paradise
    @Richard_Paradise Год назад +1

    gyro is for noobs. Nice Jet tho.

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/1NJWIj5zQNs/видео.htmlsi=iiyZMlIvk0F0_dpT

  • @abundantwealth-vy5bn
    @abundantwealth-vy5bn 5 месяцев назад

    '...Remotely done with this thing' ba-dum-dum

  • @markomalley4442
    @markomalley4442 Год назад

    Interesting that you say that anyone who says they can fly this plane with extended throws and aft cg without a gyro are 100% wrong. Very arrogant assumption to make there. I recently got this exact plane and am using a ar620 with no gyro with 150% rates on elevator and aileron with 55% expo. Mine flies very smooth. Im using a 4000 pack which could be a little heavier than yours. I also have about the same amount of flying experience as you and have used gyros since i started. Only recently have i started moving away from them. They help slightly in the wind from what ive found and also noticed the plane is more responsive without stabilization. Ive watched lots of your videos but you should really tone down the arrogance. You're not the only one out there doing extended rates etc you just might be one of the few posting youtube videos about it.. youll never get a true feeling of how stable the plane flies with a gyro in it..

    • @TwoBrosRC
      @TwoBrosRC  Год назад

      Yes, yes, gyro bad.
      Expo bad too.
      Anything new bad, everything old good.
      We get it.

  • @ramlidon7520
    @ramlidon7520 3 месяца назад

    I am so sad