Sinkhole Fields & Pottery Sherds in the Cactus Gardens
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In this episode of Crime Pays we visit a sinkhole feeled in the Tehuacán Biosphere Reserve, and inspect some of the anthropological AND biological place issues of interest.
Thanks to www.PlanetDesert.com for throwing me some fine specimens of some of the interesting cactus species found in this episode. Check out their inventory of cacti and use code CRIMEPAYSBUTBOTANYDOESNT10 to get a discount real nice.
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Thia channel has really changed my perspective about the world around me. Thank you, truly.
I'm about to start trying to propagate a (pardon my ignorant/nonexistent taxonomy) pad cactus, and some other very odd looking cactus and a succulent that I cannot currently readily identify.
Thanks for recommending the iNat apps in your other videos.
Question - i got a box of halogen par floodlights for free, would cacti be happy with the light and heat from those at a reasonable distance?
I live in usda ag zone 6a if that matters much or if you or anyone here have any other recommendations for care of cacti/succulents/orchids/adansonii.
Thank you for all you do, friend.
KTGFYB.
@@i-love-comountains3850 there are companies that actually make LED lights that produce in the UV spectrum that are supposed to be good. But generally, you want to go as strong as possible when overwintering cacti and be sure to put them back outside in brighter light once temperatures permit. Getting a fan for airflow is important, too. The çooler your temps are indoors the less you will want to water.
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Thanks! I'm gonna get a couple seedling heat mats for my more warmer climate plants and I've got light and air in the works too! Thank you!
WOAH!! I'M HYPED, Y'ALL!!
ruclips.net/user/BeauoftheFifthColumn MENTIONED THIS CHANNEL!!
On his most recent video on his second channel The Roads With Beau ruclips.net/channel/UC_x7nc3Vi4BPgmNnMsz774A and I dropped a link to your channel too for people too lazy to search themselves lol
What a great idea definitely going to purchase plants, so much fun!
That pottery was wood fired, probably very old. I rewatched and what you are standing on looks like it may have been a wet area or spring at one time. The way the pottery was eroding out of the side of the hill might be a place where pots were wood fired and the broken ones left behind. That black chunk may have been melted in a wood kiln after repeated firings. An archeologist may be interested and could date it. It also looks like it was hand built clay with the inside showing where the coils were joined and smoothed over, the outside would have been smoothed with a stone/polished so make the outside look nice. I also noticed a lot of foreign specks in the fired clay, telling me it is older because the impurities were not screened out when the pots were made.
Are they Native American?
Thank you Joey for bringing us this prickly cathedral. Complete with catacombs.
It amazes me how well those cactus blend in. Perfect national cactus garden.
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This is pretty much the most chill I've ever heard you be Tony. You wonderful bastard you.
Thank you for taking us on another one of your beautiful adventures.
You know it’s a good video when you hear “oh there’s a banger” multiple times
I've been growing some cylindropuntia (mini cholla). I keep em in a mixture of perlite and turface. I've been trying to take your advice and growing mostly native plants. I visited one of the nurseries you featured in San Juan Capistrano and purchased a Tecate Cypress and Eriogonum Fasciculatum. I also planted a Torrey Pine and an Agave that I found discarded on the side of the road that's now about 3x the size as when I found it!
The aerial footage you include is always a joy.
I live far away from the arid-americas, and so its always nice to see what cacti in the wild are like.
That has to be the most interesting thing the internet has throw my way recently.
I appreciate your enthusiasm about plants
Beautiful, magical landscape. I hope it's a protected area to some extent... I especially like that purple cactus (Echinocactus platyacanthus) and the trees with big trunks (Beaucarnea garcilis) and the purple Solanum.
Awesome landscape! Sherds near us still bear fingerprints of their makers. Not too far from us, Ruppia seeds were pressed into the mud of a now dried up lake bed by kids feet. This allowed carbon dating. Pushed human presence (that we know of) back to between 20,000 to 22,000 years ago. This was at White Sands, N.M.
Be aware, some of those pottery shards are actually ancient, i find them all around my grandpas' land in Mexico state, me and my cousins have even found clay dolls, gives you an idea about how active indigenous culture used to be. It's also normal to find ancient kitchen utensils like volcanic stone mortars and metates
As a soil scientist it's always interesting to hear your prespective on geology and soils when it comes to veg and ecological regimes. Also gypsic and carbonatic soils behave drier because carbonate/gypsum/salts can only hold 2/3 the amount of water compared to "average" soil, so veg like ocotillo can help identify alkali or shallow soils (often from quartzite or similar extremely hard geology). Looking at the area it looks like fine sediments baked together with some intense chemistry, it's a wonder that those plants can survive and thrive in it!
I’ve always been interested in identifying soil based on what grows there, it all tells a story 😊
@@swaddington9399 As soil develops and changes the veg does so as well. Vegetation is extremely fleeting in a world of generalist and exotics; so knowing your species can help get a gist of some factors on the land, but you gotta dig the hole and get your hands dirty to actually understand and know the soil.
@@TotalDissolvedSalamanders that makes sense, always lots of variables! I just started using soil charts for nutrient levels and moisture, but it would be great to learn how to identify minerals and more details later. It is very interesting.
Shit like this is why this channel is the only one I'll willingly go to the comments for 🤣
Thanks for your input
What a gloriously alien landscape! At least for those of us more accustomed to temperate zones, those moonscape badlands and sculptural cacti and agaves look like a science fiction planet. But thanks to you I can see the similarities to the plants around me, such as Cordylines and Sophoras, that are in the same families as the agaves and mimosas you’re showing here. A few months ago before I started watching CPBBD I wouldn’t have had a clue!
The diversity of this blue marble we live on never ceases to amaze me. Thanx 4 takin us along on ur journey around and what the shit.
I would never see this place if not for you, thank-you!
Thank you for bring us "sleaze bags" 😂😂😂 another great episode!!!
so interesting to see the natural environment that these plants come from very different from seeing them in botanic gardens or nurseries.
I envy you the explorations but thank you for taking us along.
Best channel on RUclips. Period.
Top-2. The other is Paul MM Cooper's superb _Fall of Civilizations_
What a badass landscape. Never heard of the place, even as a caver.
"I would not like to fall in a hole." Yes indeed.
Another nice one! Thanks again for bringing us along...
I appreciate a landscape and just flora and fauna in general because of this guy.
Those drone shots are gorgeous!
2 weeks ago I missed this, or got preoccupied. Anyway thank you for showing this beautiful place, cactus and other desert plants are nice. I can't really travel myself so this is the next best thing. Try not to break your ankles. GFYB!
Lived in Mexico as a child in an area that looked just like that. Damn man, thanks for the tour❤ Your enthusiasm and potty mouth fkn crack me up.
Hope you get to visit my home state DURANGO.. Mountain rural area. salute my guy. BadaBing!
I've had some really good luck with the Irish setter boots. Think I'm on year 3 with mine, naturally they killed off that particular model so I'll probably give the name brand red wings a try next time.
This is one of my favorite places you've visited!
What a tour. That was awesome
The end was shocking. But I am in proper awe!
Awesome environment there, that looks to be Native American pottery to me, I find similar stuff here on the gulf coast of south Florida. On the one shard you held up you can actually see the marks left by the hands that built that pot. Probably some really neat stuff that has been eroded down into that crevasse off that ledge over the hundreds of years that site has sat there abandoned. Would be cool to share that with a local archeological team to relay their finding to you. Maybe you’ll get to name the site?
You oughta check out "Old World Florida" channel. Not what you'd expect. There's some interesting history that's been chlorinated for the masses.
@@katiekane5247 it’s funny you mention that because I had just become a new subscriber of that channel.
I haven't seen any of your videos for so long I'm really glad this one popped up!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge..
That's why a healthy garden of San Pedro, bridgesii n some yotes keeps a man happy 😁
This video is just what I needed after a shitty day, much love Joey
Omg, cactus heaven. Growing well and hopefully they will be there for long long time.
sinkholes and craters usually stay cold for longer due to cold air accumulating in there with no where to flow away
Money shot for me was the Agave potatorum at 24:21 thanks.
The Beaucarnea recurvata is common in cultivation and not the wonderful/mysterious Beaucarnea gracilis! Huntington sold off a few seedlings of them in 2019.
Thanks Tony
Magnificent natural garden!!
Incredible biodiversity
Love these landscapes!
I think it's "shards" but somehow"sherds" seems like cactus parts doesn't it? Love this one! Was hoping you would come visit in Harlingen. The City was threatening ti fine me.2k per.day for.overgrown vegetation. So we removed most.of.the non-native Duranta the bees etc. loved and that shaded a now-hot window... and MX Corona Vine. We still have a few hundred species front and back. City says we can't be a wildlife refuge at less than 1 acre. Are you coming to our Native Plant Project meeting coming up? Volker will donate if asked. 3 cheers for your great work. If only we could do a similarly engaging RUclips series on climate for the ignorant degenerate public. Am getting desperate!
I thought it was land of the free?
It's sherds. Would make more sense if it were shards but curiously it's nahr
So damn beautiful!! Thank you kindly!
What a gorgeous, terrifying place!
Come back to Australia, WA! I’m too lazy to travel there from Queensland, BUT I could watch your adventure via the Tubes
Fascinating film thanks
Pleasantly surprised to have a video midweek…nice.
11:00 I did not know that Tony, good to know 😉
What an amazing place!
Nice. 4k awesome. Would love to see that place when flowering.
Your amazing as always...gracias !!
Really enjoyed this. Thank you for sharing.
Working on some Lipochaeta spp. specimens right now in the herbarium at SF State while watching this.
Wow, that place looks like a botanical cactus garden planted by humans!
"once you've endured the texas heat, you can do anything"
Aint that the fucking truth.
There is a book called A New Leaf. The movie has a happier ending 1971. Very much worth watching. I would love to hear a review of it.
You lost me at the end talking about the fungus but I really want to understand I couldn't get my closed caption to turn on so I can look up the words maybe I'll talk about everything you said one day!!✌🏽♥️
That must be one of the most beautiful flora you have visited!
Wow, that place is freakin insane
So good, we can't get enough of your videos, seriously ♥ ♥ , you are a truly amazing dude! Thank you, my brain is starting to understand more every video!
I liked the legumes coming out of the horseshit 🤣🤣🤣
Have you seen rose halls before Joey? Not a plant but still looks like those tree bromeliads. Cool stuff
Bro toooo good! Was too into it she you said “fuck you goodbye” lol. But was the best part
Those bromeliads trying to be agaves xp
The diversity there is in another level, wonderful!
dang thorny place. watch your step.
Damn thank you for showing us!!! Loved every second
Now THATS what id call badlands.
i love your impersonations, you nail the voice lmao
Wondering if there are any possible inhabitable cavettes and holes that people may have used at one time? Kind of like the tuff cavettes of northern NM (like Bandelier NAtional Mon.
I will forever know thatlast Agave thanks to reading it as Potato Rum first.
For some stupid reason I've followed for over a year on FB but never thought about checking out to see if there was a RUclips channel. So I have a bit to catch up on it seems. 😂😂😂
I might have missed it, but what causes the sinkholes like that? Water being removed from the aquifer faster than it is replaced?
That's one of the many causes of sinkholes or "sonotes."
My only experience with them is in the Lost Creek Wilderness State Park. Really cool place if you ever get the chance to go.
@@i-love-comountains3850 *cenote is the properly spelling. Sonote doesn't mean anything
No just the ease with which gypsum in the soil is dissolved in water.
Collapse of underground limestone voids originally dissolved by acid rain. Cave collapse. The caves could be subaqueous. This is 4000’+ elevation so … water flows downhill below as above ground.
I love your vids so much, I jsut wish you would do more on the weird shit of the American South East (the deep southern south east...)
Somehow I missed this earlier. Always good stuff Joey!
You really should come to the canary islands some day
More bangers than 1980s Slayer
Thank you X
Love the bark on that one
Super cool.
I contend that TX (Austin Hill Country) Swiss cheese karst was formed in the shallow Cretaceous inland sea by the drilling of the abundant Ammonites in the calcium carbonate deposits.
Rectal poultice ...🌵yes yes!!
I fucking LOVE that lil Prosopis nursery! 🤩🤩
Thankyou! From south East Australia ☺️
Bro good fact on the LD50 of mescaline and caffeine! I did not know that one. Ive never tried mescaline but i recommend 5meodmt from the bufo alvarius toad. Can you show some plants besides yopo that contain 5meodmt on a video?
erectile poultice, you made snort my wine, I love how you throw that shit in to see if we are paying attention.
Great video! Could you please add height in meters so non-Americans get it as well?
Jesus what a spot to botanyize. Slip on a jagged potsherd and you got a facefulla cactus and fall into a goddamn 20’ hole.
nice one. real bangers!‘
It's certainly possible to grow enough San Pedros from seed to supply all your mescaline needs. Just grow plants that aren't from the Predominant Clone in the U.S., which has little mescaline in it. Bridgesii clones or hybrids seem to be the most potent.
Not a very pleasant high
@@seansezz then you should not use it. Definitely DON'T USE IT! :)
@@richardlynch1094 I'll still give it another chance lol
Btw love the karen voice. Nailin it
The Beaucarnia in nurseries is B. recurvata.
Potatorum….. Woooo Wooooo NICE
Very cool
Evolvulus looking like a sand dollar
Got dayuuuuum I love this channel
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Karwinskia, honey bee could be collecting resin for propolis
The pottery looks Post-Classic, Prehispanic.
Lord knows I love a good rectal poultice lol