Festool Domino or Lamello Classic X For Cabinet Making
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- In this video I answer a question I get asked often. Domino machine or biscuit joiner. We will talk about the basics of each tool and which one I prefer as a cabinetmaker.
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Use for my drawers ,many years of joy using it, but I still have the PorterCable biscuit jointer .
Nice!
Great advice! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with a straightforward video!
Thanks for watching
I agree Biscuits are underrated. And I agree that the HAVE to add strength. Great video!
Thanks for watching 🤙
Video, I use the Domino 500. Upgraded from the 2 Dowel tool that looks like the Domino and Lamello.
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I have 2 of the Domino 500s and the Domino XL. I keep the Seneca domino plate on one of the 500s 24/7 for 3/4" carcass work. The 500 has 5 bit sizes, 4,5,6,8,10. I like the 700 for entrance doors, and I use the 12 and 14 bits on the rail and stiles. I used to use the biscuit jointer for face frames to carcass. Now I just use a slot cutter in my palm router, cut a groove entire edge of carcass. Then, place biscuit slots wherever I want to on the face frame. I like both tools, but my dominos get used constantly.
That’s awesome. Sounds like you have a nice setup. I have thought about picking up a 500. I’m sure I would use it a lot.
@@NE_woodworksit doesn’t seem to me that the biscuit joiner has reference pins like the Domino has. I’ve felt different biscuit joiners, and if you were blind folded, it might be difficult feel the difference between a biscuit jointer and the domino because they weigh similarly and feel nearly the same.
At the end of the day, the biscuit joiner is more for alignment where the domino is for alignment and joinery.
For carcass work the 500 is my go to 👍🏝️🇨🇦
@@AaronGellermaybe you might not be able to tell the difference with the 500. But the domino 700 is wayyy bigger and heavier. I have thought about adding the 500 to the arsenal
Funny thing, getting the 500 in 2006, hated the pins on the fence. One pin is removable, and the other can be locked recessed in. So your fence face is flush. I do all mortise, tightest settings on one board, second setting on adjoining board, zero hassle with alignment. Later, Lamello sued Festool over the fence guide pins they have on their duo Dowel machine. So Festool went with a new fence with flaps like the 700 instead of guide pins. I just like using a pencil to mark my mortise instead of relying on the pins or flaps. Also, I like using the very small 4 mm dominos for mitered work.
Yea ; I hv no use for the DF 700 I use the 500 for my cabinets and vanities! I make thru tenon drawers with them also on my little custom pieces ! Biscuit jointer also but the number 5 domino is perfect for 3/4” cabinets and #4 for 1/2”
I’m thinking about picking up a 500
I've got the top 10 Lamello, great tool, and the domino XL. Also have a Seneca adaptor for the XL which allows you to use the smaller bits great for thinner material. Great video, cheers, Bill - Bevel Carpentry.
Nice. The top 10 is a cool machine.
Great video!
Thank you!
Nice video! Keep up the great work...
Thanks you 👊
I think the people who say biscuits don't add any strength may have heard someone say, "They dont add any NECESSARY strength." They got confused between one and the other.
At times, a biscuit is used when alignment is needed, but the strength isn't necessary, but it doesn't mean it doesn't offer any..
Ps if you had the smaller domino you'd probably use it more often but still not as much as the biscuit joiner IMHO
Very good point. You’re probably right about not adding NECESSARY strength.
The have thought about picking up the smaller domino
Thanks, this is great! Could you make a major breakdown video of the usability of the lamello p2 once it's fixed. Seems like a one tool quiver for cabinets and built-ins work but a lot to learn for getting acquainted with. These real world tips a tricks video would be great. Thanks again for another video!
I am definitely going to do a video on the p2. We will go into detail on it. It’s an incredible tool. Thanks for watching
#20’s all day
No doubt 🤙
I still use biscuits over pocket holes, hate pocket holes, more work to keep it aligned to get a weaker joint! Pocket holes always slide around unless you clamp it and even still it can slide when tightening the screws. Domino is just tooooo pricy! Nice to have, but not in my budget.. (if someone wants to buy me one I’d be happy to use it 😜)
Hahaha. Domino is expensive
The 500 is great for cabinets goes to 4,5,6,8, & 10’s domino’s.
I didn’t realize it had all those other sizes too
@@NE_woodworks oh yes it actually works well for cabinets however; I think either/or is good for building cabinets. Where it shines is for larger doors (I use #10’s ) ; i hv even made large barn doors and regular doors with the #500 including big 8’ solid oak tables !
That’s where the 500 pulls away from the biscuit jointer.
The 700 is a door maker , and big furniture maker! I don’t hv the room but if I did ! There is money in custom doors ! Heading into 2500-3500 (not including materials) a door ! Maybe two days? Cut all your parts , panels , then glue up?
If you think about it? How many custom door makers you’re aware of? You could make a straight grain Doug Fir (it’s all over Oregon) 4 , 3, or 2 panel for 3 G’s or more ! That 700 is a money maker!
It’s an option & kind of show cases your skills ! Put the entire family to work ! And the neighbors ! Wait? U hv to pay the neighbors ! Scratch that! Hv a good one !
I use my Lamello Top 21 and P2 much more than my domino. All depends on the application.
If I could go back I would have gotten the top 21 instead of the classic. That thing is cool
I like both, but you are not comparing apples to apples. You just compared apples semi to a 1 ton truck. This would make more sense if compared the 500 to the biscuit joiner. Then this video might have content for someone’s purchasing decision.
The 500 would be a better comparison. I’m just answering some questions I get often with the tools I do have.
I have argued with many people about the whole biscuits don't add strength, they're sorely mistaken, I have been building cabinets for 30 years with only biscuits, never had an issue or failure, even made a video to prove it. Have a lamello classic x, as for a domino, I have a slot mortiser I have no desire to own a domino, floating tenons are not a good method for cabinets if you are building furniture then they're great, But a slot mortiser is much more versatile than a domino I can cut up to 1/8 -3/4 thick mortises on my machine if I need plus I can cut them up to 8" wide, even though its not a good idea to cut them that wide due to expansion.
Im glad im not the only one who thinks this lol. The slot mortiser would be really cool to have. Thats awesome.
@@NE_woodworks I think festool put out the rumor that they are only for alignment so they could sell more dominos. I have no idea where it came from, but there is a lot of misinformation out there in the world
17:28 I think long grain to long grain joints, dominos are for alignment. Butt and long to end grain joints, dominos add a lot of strength. But today's glues damn near weld wood together.