It amazes me that these things break down so often!!! I was and I mean was interested in purchasing one but following your journey between this coach and your previous it appears they are simply nightmares.
I love looking at all the different RV models online. What you don't appreciate from pictures is how noisey they are when they're running down the road. All those rattles and bangs would drive me crazy.
i like the way you guys filming, simple, explain everything and enjoyable. Keep up and don't forget to have one of your doors signed by bob tiffin, he is a realy nice guy. i forget mine, i will do it next time.
Hey Mike and Angie…Kobear here, finally managed to get my true name on here. Missed y’all! Good to see ya again. Hate to hear you having more problems with your rig. I look forward to seeing more of y’all here on you tube.
The rattles in your coach would drive me crazy. As much as you guys travel a Prevost Emerald would be the way to go. Big dollars for sure but we'll worth it!
Good grief,,, it sounds like a container barge in a hurricane inside a plastic go cart !!! $250,000 of extruded plastic with a diesel motor trying to shake it apart doesn’t sound like a vacation to me.. pissed off camp ground patrons , dumpsters full of maggots waiting for the wind to blow in the right direction and freeway traffic waking you up in the mornings and then your making regular trips to the repair shop to get every little part that rattled loose fixed,,,, give me a break!!! I am certain I can find a better way to relax and not burn $6.00 every 6 miles while I’m doing it !!!!
Thanks for all the info on how unreliable these rvs are. I was planning on purchasing one,but I am not going to spend my retirement going from one rv repair center to the next. I thought my boat was bad. Good luck on journeys
I own a 2002 National Dolphin LX and I don't have any problems like these newer luxury rigs. 40k miles on her and solid as a rock. Everything working and running like new. They don't build 'em like this any more.
Fantastic! Enjoying my first look at Tiffin service. Wow! Nuff said. Very nice indeed. The surprise? That air leak! Ouch. Hey, extreme leaks are cake. Spent many hours chasing wee leaks under the coach, seeming like miles of air lines, and tiny leaks among the assortment of Norgen valves. Dealt with the on road suspension and leveling valves, this is different. Footnote! Nice to see your dog! I like the extreme, I guess, I have a Saint Bernard, hehe.
Watched a number of your videos. You have dealt with your share of challenges. As for drawers/doors/stuff falling all I can suggest is do a thorough check before rolling. Our rig is nowhere as large as yours, in fact it’s only a 18’ tear drop but the principle is the same. My wife goes through and checks each and every drawer/door to confirm they are firmly shut. Does that mean something won’t or can’t pop open; nope. I-10 through LA proved that but not checking can lead to an expensive repair. The last thing we do is what we refer to as a brake check - confirm lights, signals/brakes lights are working. Pull forward 5-10 ft and then do another walk around, check the power pole etc. to confirm we’re not leaving something behind. Many times we’ve flagged down fellow RVers as they have left a park with their vent open, or an access door open or something. We do get giggles from folks watching us, but since we’re small, single axle, two tires, we have little to no room for any errors once we get on the road. Last, lots of noise in your rig so have to ask, is it the rig itself or road or what you have inside? Would drive me crazy. Safe travels
it would help everyone if you "mic" up and use a microphone on each person for the videos. You have good content but the sound is not so good. Keep up the videos
Been watching several of your vids and it seems like the problems are never ending even with a different coach…seems too the DEF systems are a pain in the butt too !😳
I can not believe how much noise the slides are making while driving down the road. None of my motorhomes ever made that much noise. that would drive me crazy!!! You will always have problems with motorhomes, just part of the journey. I would always do most of the the repairs myself, that way they are done correctly.
It kind of sounds like there's a large fish flopping around in the RV knocking over everything that it's tail smashes into LOL. Just My imagination I'm sure
We had an Open Road and we were happy with Tiffin until they stopped doing extended warranty work and you had to agree to pay for repairs and deal with getting trying to get your money back on your own. 😂
Wow in the video that thing sounds louder than my work truck with a 5 gal metal bucket sliding around in the bed . I thought tiffin was known for a quit ride
The buyers if the RV aren't saving spending plenty you have to not be worried about money or out of your mind to own one I'm sure I don't and wouldn't even if I could afford it 😂
@@williammize8270 After watching a few of these videos. The insane price to buy one of these and they are built with the cheapest Chinese junk. The constant repairs and maintenance. I could buy a really nice car and stay in a hotels it would be far cheaper. I sure would like to see the cost of all the expenses to own one for let’s say three years.
4 and half minutes in and it just sounds like you are tearing up your RV just driving down the road. LOL I am sure it's fine, but the camera is picking up all kinds of weird violent sounds.
I hate to say it, but seeing Angie not wearing her seatbelt, reminds me of a friend of mine that would never wear her seatbelt. Needless to say she ended up going through the windshield and now six feet under. I hate to see that happen to a pretty lady like Angie.
I just need to warn you of the fact regardless of what happened before, with just a lap belt you cannot restrain your upper body in the event of a crash. A pretty face takes a beating and may not look as it once did. Perhaps consider a racing style restraint that holds equally on both sides of the body. My son made quite the impression on a metal dash with his face while only wearing what was available. The other bent the steering wheel like a pretzel bracing himself and still had injuries. Do as you must but remember what I mentioned here. Physics does not change.
I just stumbled onto this site and watched a few videos. What is this? Is it all about the trials and tribulation of motorhome ownership? Of the videos of watched that is all it is. Do they ever get to enjoy motorhome travel? If so, I don't know when. All they talk about is repairs.
For all the money you spend on that thing there's no way in hell you should be here and all that type of rattling I understand a little bit but that thing's coming apart
I worked in the RV industry for ten years (custom bus conversions) First building them then repairing them… They are all junk.. but some manufacturers are just awful to deal with.
I would have to agree with the earlier comment on the mic. You spend so much time on making all these videos and some of them are just hard to watch because of the noise in the background. It would cost you pennies on the dollar for a Bluetooth mic and would bring your videos and possibly more subs to your channel.
@@irritatedtraveler Thank you for your service from one brother to another from another mother. 20+ years here as a flying aircraft mechanic. Would do it again in a heartbeat
Are you aware those two fans above the driver and passenger are there to blow on the windshield to get the fog off the inside of the glass? Best wishes, Kevin
All those banging and clanging noises would drive me crazy, it sounds as if the whole thing is breaking apart as you drive it. And the fact that they put a plastic fan on the air unit is ridiculous, for all the money you spend on those things you would at least expect a metal fan on it.
You guys should write a brochure on the trials and tribulations of your RV life. Be a must read for nubez and potential owners. It's crazy the nonsense you and others have to deal with on these high end rigs.
I would not be ASSUMING a damn thing! I’d be asking and going over each thing b4 pulling out again! What about DEF? Never trust anyone to do the job correct nor do it the first time
The shoulder belt doesn't work at all in a side or rear collision as we have discovered. It actually does way more damage than just wearing a lap belt.
As a first responder and having attended first hand multiple injury and fatal related collisions I'd argue that theory. But hey, the real lose will be suffered by you. Believe what you will.
It's not a theory, it's previous firsthand experience! While I agree that shoulder belts are excellent at preventing death from head on collisions, only 2% of traffic accidents are head on collisions.
Curious if you guys run the roof air conditioners while driving? There is some anecdotal evidence that this hastens failure of the squirrel cage plastic fan. I was at Tiffin last year and the work they did was great but since we had an older coach they ran out of time to do all the repairs since we are limited to 3 hours (two techs). I keep a book of repairs while we travel, seems like I usually end up with a couple of pages of stuff that requires repair by the time we get home plus the normal chassis and house maintenance items.
Those noises and worse are typical of any production motorhome. Most of it is just household things rattling and shifting but there are also some coach noises too!
@@irritatedtraveler I think the camera sound probably magnifies it too. One thing I’ve noticed on our transit buses…the new fleet (ElDorado)we just acquired rattle and bounce horribly…I would much rather drive our 20 year old buses. Yes the technology is a huge difference (almost to the point it’s a pain in the arse) but the build quality of old vs new? The old ones win hands down.
Really don’t like these big diesel class A , Seems like people have a lot of problems all the time. Would rather have a Travato twin bed with lithium Volta system . 21 Feet long and you don’t have to deal with the generator you could leave the air-conditioning running off the batteries for eight hours and it charges while you drive and if something breaks down you could even call AAA and you don’t need to tow a car
This is really a crying shame! Seeing all these coaches and bay for service just makes me mad!!! Are they really not building these coaches to be worth a damn???? This seems unlawful. What a shitshow
That pretty face will look terrible after you break it hitting the steering wheel. Why put the shoulder harness behind you? It is more uncomfortable that way & in most states makes you ticket able for lack of use. #Stupid
Thanks for the concern but I was seriously injured twice before because of the shoulder belt in side impact crashes. Hence why I only wear a lap belt. 2% of accidents are head on and 40% are side impact.
It amazes me that these things break down so often!!! I was and I mean was interested in purchasing one but following your journey between this coach and your previous it appears they are simply nightmares.
Two good thing about Tiffin rv's, the owners take pride in their investment and Tiffin takes pride in their units. Great combination!
Glad to see you guys are doing well and getting your Tiffin serviced. 🚌💨
So glad you guys are back you remind me of me with my Bus
I love looking at all the different RV models online. What you don't appreciate from pictures is how noisey they are when they're running down the road. All those rattles and bangs would drive me crazy.
i like the way you guys filming, simple, explain everything and enjoyable. Keep up and don't forget to have one of your doors signed by bob tiffin, he is a realy nice guy. i forget mine, i will do it next time.
Bob signed it before we took delivery!
Hey Mike and Angie…Kobear here, finally managed to get my true name on here. Missed y’all! Good to see ya again. Hate to hear you having more problems with your rig. I look forward to seeing more of y’all here on you tube.
I’m a transit bus driver and I’m so jealous looking at that cushy drivers seat you’re in. If that seat was in my bus I would be falling asleep haha
Lol, maybe that’s why they don’t make bus seats like that!
@@fivehead6675 for sure 😀
The rattles in your coach would drive me crazy. As much as you guys travel a Prevost Emerald would be the way to go. Big dollars for sure but we'll worth it!
They all suck. Every single RV sucks and will break down.
What the heck is all that racket? I’d have to fix it or throw it out
Try my holiday rambler gas model. Got to call the wife to talk to her in passenger seat. Lol!
All you ever do is get these things repaired , PIA !
We rented a private 40 foot Newmar and I was amazed how much they creak and rattle.
Good grief,,, it sounds like a container barge in a hurricane inside a plastic go cart !!! $250,000 of extruded plastic with a diesel motor trying to shake it apart doesn’t sound like a vacation to me.. pissed off camp ground patrons , dumpsters full of maggots waiting for the wind to blow in the right direction and freeway traffic waking you up in the mornings and then your making regular trips to the repair shop to get every little part that rattled loose fixed,,,, give me a break!!! I am certain I can find a better way to relax and not burn $6.00 every 6 miles while I’m doing it !!!!
Thanks for all the info on how unreliable these rvs are. I was planning on purchasing one,but I am not going to spend my retirement going from one rv repair center to the next. I thought my boat was bad. Good luck on journeys
I own a 2002 National Dolphin LX and I don't have any problems like these newer luxury rigs. 40k miles on her and solid as a rock. Everything working and running like new. They don't build 'em like this any more.
I have a 2004 Dolphin as well, for the most part it just works. I love the look of these new coaches, but they seem to have more problems.
Glad they fixed your airbags! Nice is nice!
Yep been there done that. I brought my coach on May8. It’s still there. 2021 45OPP.
It sounds like everything is falling apart in there, especially when you went over the rail road tracks.
Nice Building ,,
Fantastic! Enjoying my first look at Tiffin service. Wow! Nuff said. Very nice indeed. The surprise? That air leak! Ouch.
Hey, extreme leaks are cake. Spent many hours chasing wee leaks under the coach, seeming like miles of air lines, and tiny leaks among the assortment of Norgen valves. Dealt with the on road suspension and leveling valves, this is different.
Footnote! Nice to see your dog! I like the extreme, I guess, I have a Saint Bernard, hehe.
Watched a number of your videos. You have dealt with your share of challenges. As for drawers/doors/stuff falling all I can suggest is do a thorough check before rolling. Our rig is nowhere as large as yours, in fact it’s only a 18’ tear drop but the principle is the same. My wife goes through and checks each and every drawer/door to confirm they are firmly shut. Does that mean something won’t or can’t pop open; nope. I-10 through LA proved that but not checking can lead to an expensive repair. The last thing we do is what we refer to as a brake check - confirm lights, signals/brakes lights are working. Pull forward 5-10 ft and then do another walk around, check the power pole etc. to confirm we’re not leaving something behind. Many times we’ve flagged down fellow RVers as they have left a park with their vent open, or an access door open or something. We do get giggles from folks watching us, but since we’re small, single axle, two tires, we have little to no room for any errors once we get on the road. Last, lots of noise in your rig so have to ask, is it the rig itself or road or what you have inside? Would drive me crazy. Safe travels
it would help everyone if you "mic" up and use a microphone on each person for the videos. You have good content but the sound is not so good. Keep up the videos
Been watching several of your vids and it seems like the problems are never ending even with a different coach…seems too the DEF systems are a pain in the butt too !😳
It is just crazy. It really doesn't matter how much you spend on these rigs. You will have problems.
I can not believe how much noise the slides are making while driving down the road. None of my motorhomes ever made that much noise. that would drive me crazy!!!
You will always have problems with motorhomes, just part of the journey. I would always do most of the the repairs myself, that way they are done correctly.
It kind of sounds like there's a large fish flopping around in the RV knocking over everything that it's tail smashes into LOL. Just My imagination I'm sure
Sure noisy which would drive me crazy but it sure is a beautiful coat
We had an Open Road and we were happy with Tiffin until they stopped doing extended warranty work and you had to agree to pay for repairs and deal with getting trying to get your money back on your own. 😂
Wow in the video that thing sounds louder than my work truck with a 5 gal metal bucket sliding around in the bed . I thought tiffin was known for a quit ride
Just imagine if the RV manufacturers spent more money on quality!! How much money they would save!!
The buyers if the RV aren't saving spending plenty you have to not be worried about money or out of your mind to own one I'm sure I don't and wouldn't even if I could afford it 😂
@@williammize8270 After watching a few of these videos. The insane price to buy one of these and they are built with the cheapest Chinese junk. The constant repairs and maintenance. I could buy a really nice car and stay in a hotels it would be far cheaper. I sure would like to see the cost of all the expenses to own one for let’s say three years.
4 and half minutes in and it just sounds like you are tearing up your RV just driving down the road. LOL I am sure it's fine, but the camera is picking up all kinds of weird violent sounds.
Doesn't say much for Tiffin with their entire repair facility full of coaches.
Lots of rattles while driving around...I'd be wearing plugs or a headset!
You guys haven't had good luck with your Tiffin. Hope it gets better for ya.
Compared to everything else we have owned, the Tiffin has been fantastic!
@@irritatedtraveler Dang, not a good omen for RV's.If you find a nice custom built campervan hit me up.
That constant noise while driving would send me up the wall. I don’t care where it’s coming from, it seems it would be very annoying.
Which RV park is that, we've been to Tiffin a couple of times but I don't recognize it looks nice!
Red Bay Acres - really nice park and they are great about refunding if you leave early!
What is all the noise I hear when you are driving? It sounds like the coach is cracking apart.
I hate to say it, but seeing Angie not wearing her seatbelt, reminds me of a friend of mine that would never wear her seatbelt. Needless to say she ended up going through the windshield and now six feet under. I hate to see that happen to a pretty lady like Angie.
She wears the lap belt portion because she has been injured before from the shoulder strap.
@@irritatedtraveler ok good, I understand.
It's a parking lot ,you snowflake
doesn't appear that he was wearing a seatbelt while drive the RV either.
I just need to warn you of the fact regardless of what happened before, with just a lap belt you cannot restrain your upper body in the event of a crash. A pretty face takes a beating and may not look as it once did. Perhaps consider a racing style restraint that holds equally on both sides of the body. My son made quite the impression on a metal dash with his face while only wearing what was available. The other bent the steering wheel like a pretzel bracing himself and still had injuries. Do as you must but remember what I mentioned here. Physics does not change.
I just stumbled onto this site and watched a few videos. What is this? Is it all about the trials and tribulation of motorhome ownership? Of the videos of watched that is all it is.
Do they ever get to enjoy motorhome travel? If so, I don't know when. All they talk about is repairs.
The channel is called Irritated Traveler. Take his word for it. It must be hell working out all his anxiety with Angie. SMH
You guys are in such great shape, what's your workout routine?
Mike, just driving in the parking lot why it there so much noise, what it back banging every few seconds. That's crazy.
Typical RV sounds on a rough road! They don't use any sound deadening material like in a car.
@@irritatedtraveler Well anyway, I enjoy your videos.
Driving without seatbelt?
The shoulder belt is in the wrong position and cuts into my neck so I wear it under my arm.
For all the money you spend on that thing there's no way in hell you should be here and all that type of rattling I understand a little bit but that thing's coming apart
I worked in the RV industry for ten years (custom bus conversions) First building them then repairing them…
They are all junk.. but some manufacturers are just awful to deal with.
What about your drivers side window that’s fogged.
Stay tuned . . . .
I would have to agree with the earlier comment on the mic. You spend so much time on making all these videos and some of them are just hard to watch because of the noise in the background. It would cost you pennies on the dollar for a Bluetooth mic and would bring your videos and possibly more subs to your channel.
Beautiful motor home. Is it scary to drive?
For about the first 10 mins! After that it's easy unless you get lost in a place where you can't turn around!!
Were you in the service and what branch?
Army
@@irritatedtraveler Thank you for your service from one brother to another from another mother. 20+ years here as a flying aircraft mechanic. Would do it again in a heartbeat
@@robertbarcus1963 Ft. EUSTIS FCKN SUCKS STILL, AND ALWAYS WILL…
20 year Army Vet here too !
Is your jeep auto. Was just wondering how you tow it do you have to disconnect the driveshaft
Yes, Jeep has a tow mode that allows you to flat tow.
@@irritatedtraveler okay thank you for your reply luv your videos mate
It's like new car you how that is 🤣🙂
that’s not a air fitting thing. that’s the propane tank fill valve
How can you stand all that racket when driving? It sounds like you have a box of sockets clanging around. lol
RVs are not quiet - well maybe Prevost or Newell but I guess that's the price you pay!
@@irritatedtraveler True that. You do have a nice rig though. I enjoy your videos.
I cannot understand, even slightly, why anyone would want to saddle themselves with a motor coach. What an unbelievable, and totally avoidable, hassle
Are you aware those two fans above the driver and passenger are there to blow on the windshield to get the fog off the inside of the glass?
Best wishes, Kevin
I disagree you can aim the fans at the windshield or in Coach to help circulate air when driving hot day I think it makes no difference
All those banging and clanging noises would drive me crazy, it sounds as if the whole thing is breaking apart as you drive it. And the fact that they put a plastic fan on the air unit is ridiculous, for all the money you spend on those things you would at least expect a metal fan on it.
You guys should write a brochure on the trials and tribulations of your RV life. Be a must read for nubez and potential owners. It's crazy the nonsense you and others have to deal with on these high end rigs.
I would not be ASSUMING a damn thing! I’d be asking and going over each thing b4 pulling out again! What about DEF? Never trust anyone to do the job correct nor do it the first time
Does Angie ever drive the motorhome?
Yes, she drives it but normally not through big cities or very difficult areas.
That seat belt in the jeep doesn't work very well if you slip the shoulder belt behind you while driving...
The shoulder belt doesn't work at all in a side or rear collision as we have discovered. It actually does way more damage than just wearing a lap belt.
As a first responder and having attended first hand multiple injury and fatal related collisions I'd argue that theory. But hey, the real lose will be suffered by you. Believe what you will.
It's not a theory, it's previous firsthand experience! While I agree that shoulder belts are excellent at preventing death from head on collisions, only 2% of traffic accidents are head on collisions.
I don’t know why your motorhome is so noisy. If you go down Road in the Provo, you don’t hear that noise so something must be wrong.
Howard Johnson
Curious if you guys run the roof air conditioners while driving? There is some anecdotal evidence that this hastens failure of the squirrel cage plastic fan.
I was at Tiffin last year and the work they did was great but since we had an older coach they ran out of time to do all the repairs since we are limited to 3 hours (two techs). I keep a book of repairs while we travel, seems like I usually end up with a couple of pages of stuff that requires repair by the time we get home plus the normal chassis and house maintenance items.
Yes, we do run they pretty often. I can see the vibration causing an issue over time. They now make metal replacements.
You guys need to get rid of that junk and buy a nice Prevost.
Maintenance time not like American home top o line RV
If all those noises while you are driving are topical of a tiffin motorhome then I would never buy one. Terrible noises.
Those noises and worse are typical of any production motorhome. Most of it is just household things rattling and shifting but there are also some coach noises too!
@@irritatedtraveler I think the camera sound probably magnifies it too. One thing I’ve noticed on our transit buses…the new fleet (ElDorado)we just acquired rattle and bounce horribly…I would much rather drive our 20 year old buses. Yes the technology is a huge difference (almost to the point it’s a pain in the arse) but the build quality of old vs new? The old ones win hands down.
Less Mike. More Angie.
What the hell is that noise I think you need air ride is that a deisel
driving a big bus sounds like a great vacation. NOT!
I will stick with my Alfa Seeya
Really don’t like these big diesel class A , Seems like people have a lot of problems all the time. Would rather have a Travato twin bed with lithium Volta system . 21 Feet long and you don’t have to deal with the generator you could leave the air-conditioning running off the batteries for eight hours and it charges while you drive and if something breaks down you could even call AAA and you don’t need to tow a car
seat belt
So, is there a manufacturer who actually builds a quality product. Nothing worse than spending your hard earned money for what turns out to be a POS
It’s too bad you hang around a repair facility instead of enjoying the open road.
You should have your wife wear heels once in a while
This is really a crying shame! Seeing all these coaches and bay for service just makes me mad!!! Are they really not building these coaches to be worth a damn???? This seems unlawful. What a shitshow
It's not unusual in the RV industry. At least Tiffin fixes them at a pretty good pace, which is more than I can say for other RV manufacturers.
You really need to invest in a better microphone!!
We do have a couple that we will use from now on. Unfortunately, I just grabbed the cam quickly without testing the mic.
Maybe you guys should buy a Tesla and camp in motels around the country.
Don’t buy a Tiffin that Rv sounds like a shitty rv
That pretty face will look terrible after you break it hitting the steering wheel. Why put the shoulder harness behind you? It is more uncomfortable that way & in most states makes you ticket able for lack of use. #Stupid
Thanks for the concern but I was seriously injured twice before because of the shoulder belt in side impact crashes. Hence why I only wear a lap belt. 2% of accidents are head on and 40% are side impact.
You have the worse luck with motor homes.
Does your wife not wear her seatbelt when driving .. noticed you do ......
Hi again, Love your vids!@!! Are you on FB/Messenger?🤔