I've always been a firm believer of this: It only takes one person to believe in someone. To help them see the potential they have to strive in life! Life is already hard, people are horrible and evil--- why not spread love, hope, and positivity? Be nice to one another, help each other out.. you never know the cards others may be dealing with 💕
I agree, i listen to Les Brown the motivational speaker a lot. And he said that he was always told that he was slow and retarded. Then one day he told that to a teacher, and the teacher told him don't ever say that again. And he told him someone else's opinion does not have to be his reality. And that changed his life. He his now one of the top speakers in the world!
I'm absolutely all about this comment. I couldn't have said it better or agree more and I hope that everyone is having an awesome day. Stay safe, stay positive and tell someone that you love them today, it really does feel good haha. One love ya'll 🤙💪✌
@Matt M sometimes people don't work well around others for varying factors, for example I have social anxiety and cannot get work done unless I'm left alone so I can give it my full attention
@Matt M I say I’m just dumb but my family says that I’m a “genius I just don’t try” but idk I just have a lot of topics that interest me and I have ADD
@@Roybaaa lmao who shit in your cornflakes? If you actually watched the interview you can see he’s CLEARLY asked questions to nudge the conversation forward you dense incompetent twat.
When he's talking about his wife "someone believing in me" while choking up all these years later. That's a perfect example of what we all need and so many never get. So happy and grateful for him
The most beautiful part of this interview is how much he loves his wife. He never shudders once when going over how horrible his childhood was but can barely get through saying how she essentially saved him.
Im 35, burned my entire 20s smoking weed and partying, trying to build my life back up, currently studying cyber security with a government funded course and trying to self-teach some web development on the side. It's so hard, there's so much to learn and I'm poor with no income, thinking about smoking weed again everyday but watching this video has inspired me to not give up, thank you.
The way this fella gets choked up about having a real connection with someone, after so many years of neglect and trauma, heart breaking. Roll on my dude, big ups Gummo.
Dude did all of that and mastered the computer because the last thing his mom asked him before bed that night was if his computer studies were going ok and he lied. Think about that, it’s so sad and beautiful.
Soft White Underbelly is getting much better at adding variety to the lineup of videos. Makes it so much more interesting to watch a varied selection of people. Thank you.
So this guy is too humble. For those of you who aren’t tech savvy, he’s basically a wizard at what he does and was doing it years ahead of everyone else.
@@samoriab5999 Lol at both of you. You asked his name, which is in the video you are commenting on AND in the description. And the dude that answered you was wrong. That is literally amazing.
@@ToolFan68 I was wondering the same. There was a lot of pain there talking about the early days, and he didn't really talk much about her after that. Plus, he's not wearing a ring. I don't want to pry but I'm curious.
I would definitely like to bring him back and I would definitely wonder if well I will email him but cuz he's been to actually where I'm from so I'm sure he would come here but I definitely can fly out there because I would love to tell my story but first I have got to put this on my channel and my book is about to be released but I would love to be on his channel cuz I would be completely honest and I would love for this guy to come back as well but speaking of that compared to drug addiction and all of this in return is my story which is freaking insane and I think a lot of you would enjoy it and also benefit from it meaning I can help you cuz I would like to not just talk about the past but I also talk about right now in the future
As soon as i seen the thumbnail i figured he was a hacker. Then i read the caption and seen he was a hacker haha. Crazy. I wonder what people think when they see me.
@@majorleehatfield I degress... Consider his childhood. Never be to quick to judge other by their cover. Another thing, if you are still alive you don't know what is in store with you. So be humble and kind fellow human.
@@bigusdickus3068 carry an RFID blocker for your wallet. If you have a phone built after 2018, RFID block is built in either with your wireless charging coil, or NFC coil.
@@robotbuster1487 🤣 so what was he supposed to do just let life fuck him into poverty and irrelevance... kid you sound like you live in some kind of movie. Maybe go live on the streets for a week and tell me how you would just accept your fate. You showed your ass with your comment m8 only a true dickhead could utter such entitled privelidged bullshit 🤣🤡🤐
more like a criminal who became an informant. Don't you think most criminals would trade being an informant in exchange for taking responsibility for their actions? What a brave rat
I love that he’s so articulate. I over speak when telling stories and struggling with taking pauses. When I listen to him he speaks at a smooth pace and transitions into a different story so nicely. His speaking skills are immaculate compared to mine. Sometimes I really hate having adhd because I think I sound like this and I absolutely do not lol.
exactly, I love how he speaks! very articulate. he doesn't put much filler words such as 'like' 'you know'. he has this habit saying 'right? ' at the end of the sentence. it kinda makes you wonder and eager to know more as he speaks. he's really good with story telling
I'm like you and i understand exactly how you feel . It's a mix of shyness ,anxiety , absolute need of feedback by the listener who must be engaged in the listening and showing interest . It's the need to be understood ,appreciated , trusted . It's a matter of self esteem and the feeling you're an impostor syndrome , a charlatan. Even if you know that you know you always doubt of yourself . Language is so important and i too envy who master It. If you're young you can really learn though and change your life for the better.
That is what years of social engineering does to You. You learn the patterns of language structure and how words work and regular conversation is way simpler. He might have already be thinking about next subject while talking about current.
lmao same i be thinking i’m speaking eloquently trying to express myself to my bf and he will stare at me dumbfounded like “what !?” 😂😂 i jus stfu nowadays lmao
Crazy how in the beginning he talks about all these things he has illegally done and all these things that happened to him and the people who left him when he was young, but as soon as he talks about the girl and family he meets and takes him in, he gets choked up. Just shows that people really just want love and someone to care for them.
Humans are social animals without social connection genuine social connection all your left with is your own thoughts sometimes harmful sometimes loving. You can tell hes grateful for his family he had made.
This guy is a self made guy. No guidance from parents, lost parents in young age and grew up as an orphan but he still worked hard and brought himself to this level. Respect!
I’m a single mom of a 14 yr old - life isn’t easy- we struggle some- but I won’t give up. And I want my son to grow up with the mindset you have. You’re an inspiration- thank you for sharing your story!
Yooo this was the #1 guest as far as accomplishments. Taught himself to code, hacked his way into getting free food vouchers, hacked a gas station pump, sold some software he created for 10million USD a piece with his friend, worked IT jobs, set up a private fiber connection from the two biggest stock exchanges in the world, mined 80,000 Bitcoin on 3 computers HE BUILT HIMSELF, and the best part about it for him WAS WORKING AN HONEST 9-5 job. God bless this man and his family and may his mothers soul rest in peace for eternity for fighting as long as she could for this guy
fuck off, you're not mining 80,000 bitcoin on 3 fucking computers, china has huge fucking bitcoin mining farms the size of warehouses and they're BARELY cracking 1000bt bull fucking shit e: I dont doubt at all that this dude wrote software or taught himself how to do it or even that he made money selling it, but there is a lot in his story that anyone who knows anything about computers or how any of this shit works can tell you just doesn't add up. People keep wanting to think of hackers as these demigods who sit around in their huge mansions punching random keys into terminals all goddamn day but that just isn't the case. You can call me whatever or say whatever but thats the actual reality of the situation.
@@InfiniteRhombus 80000 bitcoin does seem to be a huge exaggeration. Wouldn't they be a billionaire if that was the case? I do know a bitcoin millionaire (I should have taken his advice way back in 2010!), hell, I'd have a good half a million quid if I'd kept the bitcoins I bought back then, instead of buy (decent quality) drugs! LoL! My friend mined most all of his. Beginning with two PCs, then I saw him about 6months later and he had most of his room whirring away, mining for him (about 20 PCs all linked up)... He mined maybe a few hundred coins, and this was from 2009 until about 2015 - around when they ROCKETED up in value! By his own admission, he'd have around £15million IF he'd sold at the right time. But he wasn't into the markets as such, and literally about half a year, maybe a year later, he sold them all and got £5million out of it all. And yeah, he got out of it then. He concentrated all his time and effort on Bitcoin right from the beginning. "Mate, it's free money... just gotta mine it." He was getting about a couple of coins a day at the start. Then it was about a coin once a month - even with vastly improved computing power. It was getting harder basically. He had a mental breakdown in the end... I don't know why exactly, but he literally became someone who never saw daylight for months on end, so that probably had something to do with it!? He even paid his shrink with bitcoin at the time! LoL! But yeah, he's out of it now, just living (healthily now) his life, spending his time spending! Sonofabitch! LoL! He literally just travels the world now. Doing nothing in particular... fair enough... Man, I remember buying bitcoin when they were less than £1 per coin. Now they're about £8000 a coin! I'd buy 70 coins(about £65 at the time!) and spend them on drugs... Now, those coins would set me up easily! About £560 000 (half a million quid, just over...) Wish I could get my past out of my head! "What if... What if... What if I'd done this...?" etc. etc. Oh well...
A true 1st generation hacker, I have so much respect for this guy. None of these guys get the respect they deserve. They are the true pioneers of modern society.
The irony in your statement of giving him respect 🤣 fuck his past, he hacks for a living, hope he hacks your shit and you give him the credit you say he deserves 😭💀
@@agee7777 how do you know that ? Even the most unlovable and corrupt find love. Of you kne y story you would agree. My life is changed now. But everyone is desirable to someone .
@@mechadonia that part it all goes down to having a conscious or soul while others sleep walk with none just feeding to their anima and desires leading them to suffer and disperse that hate since they aren't loved or can't love themselves hence creative energy , hence authencity vs synthetic
I really felt his words when he got choked up talking about meeting his wife and her family becoming his own. I really like this man and proud of him for never giving up as a child. ❤
I always pay attention to how someone talks. He's very precise and doesnt talk vaguely on his topics. He doesnt talk too slow/fast. It's like a good CPU chip doing its job.
10:51 - Man, this part when he starts talking about his then girlfriend and now wife really made me smile. The part at 11:02 was something else. When you see Gummo tearing up and all the fond memories starting to rush back to him that make him emotional. You see him start to move his right hand, something he's never done for 10 minutes and longer sitting there. He doesn't know how to handle it. It's a sign that he got overwhelmed with feelings and doesn't know how to process it. You hear his voice start to crack and how quickly he gets on the verge of tears. I immediately knew why. This was the first time in his life that he felt love and that he was welcomed somewhere. We was embraced with open arms by his girlfriend's family, when for all that time he didn't have his own who would do it. I know that fcking feeling too well... We NEED to feel wanted in life, we NEED to feel that we belong. Unfortunately we are humans, we are flawed. We are run by oir emotions and our desire to be a part of the group. It is sad that we are social creatures, because we have needs that we ourselves cannot fulfill, no matter how much we tried. We have to rely on others to do it for us and that is a really stopid fcking thing. I wish that wasn't the case, but that is not the world we live in. It is a lonely existence being a human, a lonesome road paved with harsh gravel that we must walk ourselves, only in hopes that alnog the way someone shows up who wants to walk along side us...
I agree! I had a very similar life, single mother that was poor as shit in Southern California, 8086 computer bought at a yard sale in the 90s, running a bulletin board system as an escape from getting jumped at school. Lets just say if you avoid drugs and alcohol and choose a more complicated addiction then your set.
Listening to this man share his sorry was so mesmerizing. I am a computer science major now and I have complete respect and admiration for this man as I understood some basics he spoke about. Awesome guy great interview!
@@szczepankobylarz7477 definitely, forgiveness shifts how you see the past event. Once you forgive, you will then see how much you’ve been able to grow from that experience rather resent it. Forgetting will never put you at peace with yourself as you avoid recognizing the good things such as wisdom or even interpersonal accomplishments you gained due to putting effort in overcoming the set back of the event.just changed the perspective and opens the opportunity for healing and control over your life.
When his voice starts to crack when talking about his wife and her family, it just kills me. His life changed when someone believed in him. He could have succumbed to the bad hand life deals so many, but he never gave up. His story is so powerful. I hope he reads all the comments. He has done so much good and is still humble. He remembers and knows how badly it could have turned out. Work hard, work smart, and do no harm. Thank you, Gummo and interviewer. Inspirational to say the least.
He is very interesting. When he teared up talking about his wife basically saving him from his car you could tell he needed that desperately at the time. Best wishes to him!
My nephews friend logged on to his Facebook on my laptop.... when he left I wrote on his status that he came out of the closet that he is gay. Some of his Facebook friends unfriended him and some showed support. I was even talking to them on is messenger on Facebook. i went kinda too far LOL
This man’s voice is lulling me into a trance. His story is so so inspiring and interesting. Truly a stand up guy. I’ve watched tons of stories on this channel. Finally a breath of fresh air.
I was Leary to keep listening cause I thought he was getting emotional because something tragic, but nope just genuine love something that was lost in the decades before, great video, and very good point for me to reflect on my relationship personally!
@@djbishop30189 ... Many of us never had a father. Mine died when I was four. My mum.... Widowed at age 33 with 6 kids. Jungle rules. It is odd when I meet a gal with one kid, bemoaning her fate. It is what it is ....
I love Gummo’s story. Very cool and what a great person. You can tell he has been through alot by how he speaks. Thx for sharing your story, we loved it. ❣️🍀
the security at the time was really really bad and most hacking was actually done over the phone rather than with a computer, so it was impressive but really not as impressive as it seems not to discount his skill in any way it's still plenty impressive.
My god Gummo I cannot believe this!!! He was my coworker and let me tell you guys this man is just as amazing behind the scenes. Hes about the most humble person ever
It was lovely watching him going from emotional when he was talking about his childhood to passionate when he started talking about hacking. What a great interview, what a fascinating man. Once again, thanks Mark!
He should have his own podcast. Covering everything from his personal experience and how to deal with such things, how you feel going through it to coding, hacking etc. the world is his oyster! Good luck and great story! Would probably help and inspire millions of people!
IM NOT SURE I BELIEVE ALL OF HIS STORIES. THE GAS TANK HACK,,THE ATM CARDS....THE WAY TO USE CC TO GET TO ATM,,,,CONVINCING STORE MANAGERS HE LEFT FOOD BEHIND???????????? SOUNDS SUS.
This guy is very intelligent, and yet talks on a level that is tangible. I really enjoy listening to him speak, so interesting! I appreciate this episode, thanks soft white underbelly! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
1 + 2 Nobody knew the reasons why people were taken away. But it could affect everyone. Therefore, in every house, for such an occasion, a bag with essentials was hung by the door. Once they came for me. As a teacher, I was taken to the camp to teach Chinese and teach propaganda songs to prisoners. The cell had a concrete floor, walls and five video cameras on the ceiling. 20 people huddled on 16 square meters. The prisoners were wearing uniforms and handcuffs. They were all shaved baldly. In the camp, I also worked in a hospital, where I witnessed how prisoners were given medicines unnecessarily, maybe experiments were being carried out to, for example, make women infertile. At one of the meetings, she witnessed how the guards raped a young woman in front of 200 prisoners. Anyone who showed sympathy for her himself became the object of humiliation and torture in a "black" room with an electric chair, where I was also tortured until I lost consciousness. Since I visited the camp, sometimes I cannot even climb onto the bed myself. In the cell, I slept too long on the cold concrete floor, and now I have rheumatism. At 43, I became a sick person, although I was completely healthy before the camp, ”says the book“ Die Kronzeugin ”(The Main Witness) by German writer Alexandra Kavelius and Sairagul Sauytbai about the“ camps ”in Xinjiang. Gulzira Auelkhan: “My job was to take off their clothes above the waist and put on handcuffs so that they could not move,” said Gulzira Auelkhan, crossing her wrists behind her head for a demonstration. “Then I left the women in the room and a man came in - some Chinese outside or a policeman. I sat silently at the door, and when the man left the room, I took the woman in the shower. " According to her, Chinese men "would pay money to select the most beautiful young inmates." Some former camp inmates said they were forced to help the guards or were punished. Auelhan said she was powerless to resist or interfere. When asked if there is a system of organized rape, she replied: "Yes, rape." “They made me go into that room,” she said. "They made me take off those women's clothes, hold their hands and leave the room." According to Ziavudun, some of the women who were taken from their cells at night were never returned. The returnees were threatened that they would not tell others in the cell about what had happened to them. “You cannot tell anyone about what happened, you can only lie down quietly,” she said. "He was created to destroy everyone's spirit." “It was scary and cold there. I thought I was going to die here. I was asked something in Chinese, I could not answer. Then I was electrocuted. When I lost consciousness, they poured water over me and I came to my senses. Then again they asked something in Chinese. They stuck nails into their hands, tied them by the hair, it seemed that the neck was about to break, needles were stuck under the nails, ”she says. Quanguo has turned the entire region into a police state with checkpoints between cities and within cities - between districts, with a network of cameras with facial recognition, with mandatory ID scanning to enter houses and shopping centers. Everywhere - policemen in uniform and civilian clothes. Forced organ harvesting in China is carried out in relation to representatives of ethnic, linguistic or religious minorities detained in different regions, and they are often not told the reasons for detention or there is no arrest warrant, "- says the conclusion of 12 experts, the most popular organs for seizure are the heart , kidneys, liver and cornea of the eye, and this measure is applied to members of the banned Falun Gong movement, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Muslims and Christians. Imagine that you were imprisoned in an internment camp or sentenced to years in prison solely on the basis of: your ethnicity; you are traveling, living or studying abroad; the number of children you have; your religion; the presence of WhatsApp on the phone; or your calls to friends and family abroad. This is the reality of the 1 million men and women detained in Xinjiang since 2017. Evidence compiled by Amnesty International provides a factual basis for concluding that the Chinese government has committed crimes against humanity in Xinjiang
Makes me feel horrible about myself because I try to be a good honest and caring person and try to work hard and do a good job for my employer which I like and take of my family and still struggle.
Gummo, you reached me, you influenced me. Your message isn't a new one, but while watching your interview, a pang of motivation arose from within me. I guess I was ready to receive this message today. Thank you.
When he almost cried talking about his wife’s family taking him in… you can see how big of a pivoting point that was for him after such an unfortunate upbringing.
@FM I don't think so mate. His crying seemed too real and you can tell he's very nervous in front of the camera and not good at all at handling his emotions. After all, he's talking about his family and an important point in his life so it makes sense for him to be moved by the mere thought of it.
@FM And what does he get out of social engineering strangers in an interview of this format? Take advantage, how? Do you think he has predicted that he will see you at W time in X place to do Y thing requiring your Z mental state? At this point the interview does nothing for him. He didn't try to make anything seem cool, he stated what he did rather plainly, and who doesn't smile while recalling "good times?" He wasn't dwelling or tooting his horn, he was asked to give his life story, his perspective... He had to survive so these "bad" things were just what a child had to do...A child who didn't get parenting or help. Another thing, every manipulator knows that using pity is a risky con because people have such repulsion towards it's constant expression. This interview in every way is a risk if he's trying to manipulate, it'd have been better to not even try to lie about an origin story than put out public example of his technique. Avoid weaving lies whenever possible because every lie you weave is part of the web you maintain AND you give away your methods. If you make a slip, it's a breadcrumb that time will always unveil. Given we're not omniscient, you can't mitigate all risk in any lie so to live as a liar for a long time you need moderation. You're really not as clever as you think you are and people aren't as simple as you think. You're not going to get far if you just assume the worst in people out of the inability to discern the best. You cross me as someone with very little life experience and who doesn't know how to interact with/doesn't understand people. There's so many ways we can go at it, but do you really not see all the behaviours/gestures/whatever in this video and really cannot confidently cross-analyze with your personal experience? I'm confident with just a few key minutes of video, and we have a whole hour to analyze. Not even the best method actor could endure video scrutiny without time limit. Since he's a self proclaimed social engineer, he's clearly aware of this and I highly doubt he's so dumb. If anything, if this was a con, the best thing is to be 100% honest to play as if he's reformed. There's just so many ways to go about it, but seriously, are you so bad at reading people that you think you can only use some purely logical argument instead of all the behaviour? Just for example, Rudolf illustrated what your blind axiomatic thinking leads to and you debated him on his conclusion of you. Fortunately, unlike Rudolf, you have an entire hour of content that shows clear strteam of conscious, etc...I'm going to assume you're sheltered, disabled, and young...But, personally, I don't really think you're this ignorant and you're playing your own con.
The craziest thing is you can tell this guy is sitting on a fortune fit for a king and he still relates to his humble beginnings. Shows true character right there. A very good motivational speaker
He's laughing while talking about decrypting people's bank accounts and entire lives they've worked so hard for.. would you say the same thing about a bank robber who had a hard childhood.. he's sitting on a pile of stolen money. Complete shitbag that doesn't care about other people. Complete garbage of a human being
Really, his eyes tell me of a wise man that has fought many battles with him self. People like this are introverts and have a different wiring than you hecklers im here trying to judge a man. Clean up your own sjit b4 adressing others:)
@@odinshunter9297 ah yes until you steal from countless people and have social issues, you can't have an opinion of someone else that has these experiences. Wait... that's incredibly illogical. I'm fairly certain understanding sociopathic red flags and commenting on them doesn't require one to have lived the same life as this guy. We all have struggles. We all know right from wrong and he chose to steal from others amongst numerous other crimes and having a hard childhood doesn't excuse that. I've met numerous former drug abusers, people from broken homes, people that simply "had it worse" that would never dream of stealing from others because they simply didn't want to get a job and be a functional member of society. This isn't some hero, this is a former criminal driven by delusions of grandeur and selfish desires whom got lucky in the long run. The same people that promote this felon, this ex-con as some virtuous individual that overcame adversity, are the same that believe narrative is more important than fact.
@@InitialFailure listen, we all have baggage and flaws that needs attention. If we throw rocks at eachothers over how we fail as humans its not going to be a pretty world. A big part of the human population scam, lie or have grand illusions during life where people get hurt. Look at the world m8, most of are taking advantages where possible. Its in our culture. We should all open up like this and have followups ;) at least we learn something instead of shouting at eachother. I wish us all a year we start to make changes to the way we think and behave each and everyone of us. I believe we have a chance like never before to make this little ball of dirt floating around in space a better place despite the chaos of all things. Maybe i have grand illusions too? 😂 I wish you an yours good and healthy life♥️
people really overlooking that he made that guy a billionaire. 80000 at the value it peaked at 65000, is 5.2 billion. even if it was at the value of now 18,000 would still be 1.4 billion. this guy should be a millionaire right now for doing that, at least for commission. edit: just checked hes a literal billionaire himself loool.
Friend just recommended your channel to me this evening, am watching first videos - this is lovely, I know it's old but what a sympathetic character, he feels like a friend by the end of it. Found watching Rebecca too upsetting.
as a person who works in IT, this guy is fascinating! truly a genius to accomplish all of that, especially in the early 90's and 2000's. i hope we get a second interview with him! thank you as always, Mark
It's crazy to think that someone so smart with all that knowledge about computers when they were just coming around couldn't work at any place nice just because he didn't go to highschool like a sheep
@@tropicalplauge8817 fast forward to nowadays many don’t care if you have a degree they care about how hands on you are, knowledgeable, helpful. It ain’t about degrees anymore, least where I live anyway.
@@alwaysuknown7770 True, if you want a real high paying gig, get into their network and show them how weak it is. Hospitals are notorious for lax security, you could make as much as you want with fake accounts in retired doctor's names and use any large hospital billing dept. to process all the info through medicare, just make sure to bill for small things and as long as they're what that doctor did no red flags will go up for a long time. The amount of money processed through a medical billing dept. at a major hospital is insane, the volume of information and billable items to choose from is mind boggling. That being said, I am in no way advocating criminal activity.
This guy really seems like he can be a professor at a university teaching computer science. Appears very intelligent. Can we please get an update on him????
My mother passed when I was 17 she took her last breath holding my hand in her bed. Had a blood clot on her lung. Stay up brother. We all believe in you keep on keeping on
@@sirtrillathon5507 hey friend you got all the time in the world to still learn whatever you won’t. I’m sure your mother is proud of you and loves you either way. Keep your head up
This man is a legend. From the gutter to riches. And he doesn’t even care about riches. Dude is just living life doing what he wants. I wish I could sit at the bar with this man and just talk over some beers. I love how emotional he got about his wife’s family letting him in with opening arms. Very inspiring story. I wish this man the best.
People keep saying he is brilliant (he is, now) but the thing that stuck out for me was that he never stopped learning, deepening his knowledge and skills. I believe thats the real lesson here. You don't need to be born a genius. If you are curious and tenacious and stick to something, you will master it.Thats the talent.
it's baffling to me, since I never heard him mention any formal education. People spend years in higher institutions getting Phd's in mathematics and computer science to learn programming and computer security. How does some wayward guy from the street manage to defy all of that?
@@AliciaM5555 oh dear, I feel so touched. "I wanna dedicate this award to the amazing hacker and his wife that stood up for him and believed him from the start. Thank you all ❤️"
I'm in cybersecurity, studying for my Comptia Sec+. Considered giving up and becoming a nurse. Thank God I seen this interview. Needed more than anything.
@@samuraid3574 that's wassup. I got into a state program that pays for me to take my Sec+. I'm using the Comptia book they gave me as well as a pen testing book I bought
Don't give up! I passed the Sec+ back around 2010 and the knowledge has served me well and gave me a foundation to build upon. I've gone on to get my CCNA, MS Azure (cloud) cert, DCSE, and a few others. I have no formal college education, yet I have 12+ years in the enterprise IT industry all because someone gave me a chance at my lowest point in life and paid for me to get the Sec+. These days my job and main focus is enterprise linux infrastructure (cloud/on prem servers, DBs, firewalls, virtualization, etc) and networking.
@@samuraid3574 www.amazon.com/Penetration-Testing-Hands-Introduction-Hacking/dp/1593275641 is one. It's a bit dated. But follow it along with the youtube vids and you got a good foundation for pen testing (my opinion)
First of all, I love your work. Your interviews are so well chosen, thought out and executed. With that said, this has to be my favorite one. Gummo if he hasn't already, should write a book and sell his story for a movie. He is so likeable and endearing. Such an inspiring person. I relate to him in many non-hacker ways. Man I would love to be his friend. The stories he would have., also his interests and how his mind works is awesome.
I feel like some very smart and knowledgeable people speak with this cadence. He was also really trying to give a very grim message about the dangers of criminal hackers.
Youv just made Me realize although hes confident hes pissed off at the same time hearing it at the same time so its irritating you and chillin as im nearly fallin asleepm
I know I commented the first time I watched this but I came back cuz I could listen to him speak for hours. His voice is calming & his intelligence & talent is through the roof. I'm so happy him & his wife found each other.
7:01 "My entire existence depended on my willingness to make sure I was taking care of myself." I think we could all use this quote and apply it to our lives.
If this world were run by more people like Gummo, what a different lens we would view one another, through!. What a remarkable human!. So, too, the follow-up interview w/him. Way back when, I edited a Master's of EE thesis on Chaotic Cryptography. This interview makes me think that I should have gone into that field, myself. Instead, I went into Public Health, which got turned upside down and became even more politicized during the pandemic. His interview here gives me hope for humanity.
Teaching yourself how to code in basic in the 80s is unequivocally more impressive than anything that he was supposed to be learning causing his grades to slip
Jeezo, I look at C++ now and think of it as little more than an ancient, disorganised, poorly structured mess, can't even begin to imagine how awful things were when C++ was seen as an improvement.
I've always been a firm believer of this:
It only takes one person to believe in someone. To help them see the potential they have to strive in life!
Life is already hard, people are horrible and evil--- why not spread love, hope, and positivity? Be nice to one another, help each other out.. you never know the cards others may be dealing with 💕
I agree, i listen to Les Brown the motivational speaker a lot. And he said that he was always told that he was slow and retarded. Then one day he told that to a teacher, and the teacher told him don't ever say that again. And he told him someone else's opinion does not have to be his reality. And that changed his life. He his now one of the top speakers in the world!
The song Imagine comes to mind. Ironically, , the 40th anniversary of Lennon's death has just passed us Dec.8...
I'm absolutely all about this comment. I couldn't have said it better or agree more and I hope that everyone is having an awesome day. Stay safe, stay positive and tell someone that you love them today, it really does feel good haha. One love ya'll 🤙💪✌
This has been proven in numerous studies. Thanks for the reminder.
Don’t true nobody it’s 2020
this interview scared me so much that i had to go and check if there'd been any changes to my bank account
it's still empty. thank god
check again
lmaooo this one was funny
Maybe he can add a couple digits to your account lol
LMFAO 😂
Omg 😆 wayyyy underrated comment!!!
"I was horrible at school but brilliant when left alone" is a pattern I can recognize in people.
Matt M No, Matt. These topics don’t even correlate.
@Matt M sometimes people don't work well around others for varying factors, for example I have social anxiety and cannot get work done unless I'm left alone so I can give it my full attention
@@shavonne9770
@Matt M can you explain how you came to this conclusion a little bit?
@Matt M I say I’m just dumb but my family says that I’m a “genius I just don’t try” but idk I just have a lot of topics that interest me and I have ADD
Absolutely love this style of interview. Sit back, shut up, let the person talk until they get tired.
🗣 PLEASE GO AND TELL VLAD THIS!
@@queengreen4409 vlad needs to collect self incriminating evidence from the people he interviews
im sure he was asked questions by an interviewer but they edited it to look candid - could be wrong tho
But its not always like that, so stop making up stuff, you naive and dumb lawn gnome and be open to different styles.
@@Roybaaa lmao who shit in your cornflakes? If you actually watched the interview you can see he’s CLEARLY asked questions to nudge the conversation forward you dense incompetent twat.
There's nothing more endearing then a genius with humility.
Hackerman: not the genius we deserve but the one we need
*than
@@Zedidiah☝️🤓
When he's talking about his wife "someone believing in me" while choking up all these years later. That's a perfect example of what we all need and so many never get. So happy and grateful for him
I think maybe that's a sign of true love isn't it... to choke up and cry when talking about a spouse????
I would never happen these days. But it did happen in the late 80s.
I
@@szzk7937 no, it still happens. Your "day" wasn't the best time in history, contrary to what you believe
Quite. Fitness is PARAMOUNT or all else is tumultuous.
This guy made millions hacking, lost it, then made millions again in bitcoin, and became a hacker hunter. Needs to be a movie about his life
billions in fact
If what he says is true :)
he lost it?? i didn't pay attention to that part. Where in the video is said he lost his 10 million dollars?
@@pauloTx Yeah, sadly they don't let you keep ill gotten gains.
Gummo, a former blackhat hacker, has recently revealed that he owns a bitcoin fortune worth a whopping $7 billion.
The most beautiful part of this interview is how much he loves his wife. He never shudders once when going over how horrible his childhood was but can barely get through saying how she essentially saved him.
I thought the same thing and wanted to see if someone else commented about it. It was profound.
At first I thought that she had maybe passed away by the way he spoke about her but nope, just a lot of love which is nice to hear
No matter how skilled, bad ass, or rich you are, there's a girl out there that can be your kyrptonite
it's like that but mine left me at my lowest
maybe she left him now and it hurts
Im 35, burned my entire 20s smoking weed and partying, trying to build my life back up, currently studying cyber security with a government funded course and trying to self-teach some web development on the side. It's so hard, there's so much to learn and I'm poor with no income, thinking about smoking weed again everyday but watching this video has inspired me to not give up, thank you.
That's lovely that you're on the road to recovery; don't give up hope for a better life! :)
Proverbs 3:5-6
Happy for you bro. I was in the same boat as you! You're wiser now you're gonna go far 🤙🤙
question is, if you don't have a income, where do you get money to buy weed?
@@pacTebra sex for weed with any gender
Stay strong brother
The way this fella gets choked up about having a real connection with someone, after so many years of neglect and trauma, heart breaking. Roll on my dude, big ups Gummo.
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@@hackermicheal9877 yo
Blicky got the stiffy
Very cool guy.
Please explain how you “learned fourtran”. Please.
Dude did all of that and mastered the computer because the last thing his mom asked him before bed that night was if his computer studies were going ok and he lied. Think about that, it’s so sad and beautiful.
I know. Heartbreaking yet triumphant.
He made his lie the reality, all because he didnt want it to be a lie.
skynet is watching that just shows you how much he loved his mom💔
We learn lessons in the most odd ways.
@J D Report him?
He got emotional about his wife's family believing in him but he didn't get emotional about making 10 million dollars that's real.
i think thats how people who have no love for money are, such a beautiful thing to be like that
Pfft wtf was 10mil to this guy? He was generating money through bitcoin preblow-up, this guy literally had a money tree.
@@jaydiaz3301 nice to meet u here
he made billions behind the scenes..
@@johnprk billions
I watched his 2 interviews in reverse...
How very beautiful to see him so deeply touched by having 1 person, his wife, believe in him.
Soft White Underbelly is getting much better at adding variety to the lineup of videos. Makes it so much more interesting to watch a varied selection of people. Thank you.
THIS.
I agree
Yup
YES SOOOOO TRUE
Nice to experience something real
watching him talk about his wife and just crying about what she did for him while he was at a bad time in his life is so amazing.
Not the best way to describe it but i know what u talking about. I felt the same
At that very moment I said to myself "this is not a bad guy".
Thank you
I read this comment before watching the video and I thought the wife had done something terrible lol.
@@holung1772your cringe
So this guy is too humble. For those of you who aren’t tech savvy, he’s basically a wizard at what he does and was doing it years ahead of everyone else.
What....is....his....name!!!
@@samoriab5999 His name is Gumby
@@strangevisions5162 thank you.
@@samoriab5999 Lol at both of you. You asked his name, which is in the video you are commenting on AND in the description. And the dude that answered you was wrong. That is literally amazing.
@eriklarson9137 I like how your just criticizing and not helping...that said we are pretty clueless..
What a grounded human being. So skilled and accomplished, yet so humble.
But he was a criminal at some point.
Do not forget that.
Please.... Am begging you! Pls bring this legend back for a part 2!
The world needs to hear his stories!!!
Relax🤣
you just heard his story
Wonder if his wife is still with him?
@@ToolFan68 I was wondering the same. There was a lot of pain there talking about the early days, and he didn't really talk much about her after that. Plus, he's not wearing a ring. I don't want to pry but I'm curious.
I would definitely like to bring him back and I would definitely wonder if well I will email him but cuz he's been to actually where I'm from so I'm sure he would come here but I definitely can fly out there because I would love to tell my story but first I have got to put this on my channel and my book is about to be released but I would love to be on his channel cuz I would be completely honest and I would love for this guy to come back as well but speaking of that compared to drug addiction and all of this in return is my story which is freaking insane and I think a lot of you would enjoy it and also benefit from it meaning I can help you cuz I would like to not just talk about the past but I also talk about right now in the future
I really like what you said about your mom doing the best she could. We can't choose our parents, but we can understand they're human.
Profound statement my friend👍
Great comment ...
@Miles Maillet Yes. There's a difference between being a flawed human and being a monster.
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727 WHEN YOU SEE IT
He looks EXACTLY like what I imagine a really good hacker to look like.
100% agree
He’s missing the black fingerless gloves and backpack.
As soon as i seen the thumbnail i figured he was a hacker. Then i read the caption and seen he was a hacker haha. Crazy. I wonder what people think when they see me.
Yes scummy
@@majorleehatfield I degress... Consider his childhood. Never be to quick to judge other by their cover. Another thing, if you are still alive you don't know what is in store with you. So be humble and kind fellow human.
You put tears in my eyes man!
You found a wonderful woman that helped you get back on track.
All the best!!!
He is dropping some SERIOUS knowledge right now. this guy is legendary.
Too bad I don't have a clue about what he is speaking about. One thing I do understand is SURVIVAL
@@dy9278 you didnt hear him mention the potential access he had to the visa cards and phones in your pocket?
@@bigusdickus3068 he was talking about times now past. it was easier then and though you can still do it now it is definitely tougher.
@@bigusdickus3068 carry an RFID blocker for your wallet. If you have a phone built after 2018, RFID block is built in either with your wireless charging coil, or NFC coil.
@@_dmfd actually ? Is this true no way
My man hacked his way out the hood and got the girl. Legend.
Bruh this had me dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This guy's life resume'is corrupt. Not a legend. Just a jackoff
@@robotbuster1487 🤣 so what was he supposed to do just let life fuck him into poverty and irrelevance... kid you sound like you live in some kind of movie. Maybe go live on the streets for a week and tell me how you would just accept your fate. You showed your ass with your comment m8 only a true dickhead could utter such entitled privelidged bullshit 🤣🤡🤐
@@yewawtmayt2805 solid response right there
@@gutwounds call a spade a spade. Just your typical Scotsman reply really.
I love how eloquent and chronological his thinking is, very linear like a programmer and detailed!
Intj for sure
You comment reminds me of something my grandfather used to say: "1000100110010010111011010010011001001011101101010100101110110101"
@@taylorrobert9495 pseudoscience
more like a criminal who became an informant. Don't you think most criminals would trade being an informant in exchange for taking responsibility for their actions? What a brave rat
@@jamesf8507 You make a good point, but, who wouldn't make that deal? Everyone makes the deal.
I love that he’s so articulate. I over speak when telling stories and struggling with taking pauses. When I listen to him he speaks at a smooth pace and transitions into a different story so nicely. His speaking skills are immaculate compared to mine. Sometimes I really hate having adhd because I think I sound like this and I absolutely do not lol.
You're fine, most people struggle with public speaking. Give yourself lots of love; you are worthy!
exactly, I love how he speaks! very articulate. he doesn't put much filler words such as 'like' 'you know'. he has this habit saying 'right? ' at the end of the sentence. it kinda makes you wonder and eager to know more as he speaks. he's really good with story telling
I'm like you and i understand exactly how you feel . It's a mix of shyness ,anxiety , absolute need of feedback by the listener who must be engaged in the listening and showing interest . It's the need to be understood ,appreciated , trusted . It's a matter of self esteem and the feeling you're an impostor syndrome , a charlatan. Even if you know that you know you always doubt of yourself . Language is so important and i too envy who master It. If you're young you can really learn though and change your life for the better.
That is what years of social engineering does to You. You learn the patterns of language structure and how words work and regular conversation is way simpler. He might have already be thinking about next subject while talking about current.
lmao same i be thinking i’m speaking eloquently trying to express myself to my bf and he will stare at me dumbfounded like “what !?” 😂😂 i jus stfu nowadays lmao
Crazy how in the beginning he talks about all these things he has illegally done and all these things that happened to him and the people who left him when he was young, but as soon as he talks about the girl and family he meets and takes him in, he gets choked up. Just shows that people really just want love and someone to care for them.
Amen
Humans are social animals without social connection genuine social connection all your left with is your own thoughts sometimes harmful sometimes loving.
You can tell hes grateful for his family he had made.
What does illegal mean when you're hungry?
@@JimMorrison-ld2zh don't you have puke to choke on? Lol
🎯
This guy is a self made guy. No guidance from parents, lost parents in young age and grew up as an orphan but he still worked hard and brought himself to this level. Respect!
but,nobody is 'self-mad guy'...circumstanses'?
Absoluty Respect and Admire him. Is a hero who was make his life stone by stone with his only nude hands.
@@jasonsitz3056 well then he's an incredibly smart story teller. right off the cuff. >.....C'mon man....really???
Anything is possible when you're White.
Respect?????? He’s clearing innocent peoples bank accounts!
And I can barely figure out how to prove to amazon that I’m not a robot with those little pictures
Same. Don't feel bad
right? why are those hard af sometimes lmao
lol me too
🤣🤣
I have this funny meme with Baby Yoda scowling at his computer saying, "How you gonna ask me if I'm a robot? MF, you a robot!".
I’m a single mom of a 14 yr old - life isn’t easy- we struggle some- but I won’t give up. And I want my son to grow up with the mindset you have. You’re an inspiration- thank you for sharing your story!
👍 luck to you
Yooo this was the #1 guest as far as accomplishments. Taught himself to code, hacked his way into getting free food vouchers, hacked a gas station pump, sold some software he created for 10million USD a piece with his friend, worked IT jobs, set up a private fiber connection from the two biggest stock exchanges in the world, mined 80,000 Bitcoin on 3 computers HE BUILT HIMSELF, and the best part about it for him WAS WORKING AN HONEST 9-5 job. God bless this man and his family and may his mothers soul rest in peace for eternity for fighting as long as she could for this guy
fuck off, you're not mining 80,000 bitcoin on 3 fucking computers, china has huge fucking bitcoin mining farms the size of warehouses and they're BARELY cracking 1000bt
bull fucking shit
e: I dont doubt at all that this dude wrote software or taught himself how to do it or even that he made money selling it, but there is a lot in his story that anyone who knows anything about computers or how any of this shit works can tell you just doesn't add up. People keep wanting to think of hackers as these demigods who sit around in their huge mansions punching random keys into terminals all goddamn day but that just isn't the case. You can call me whatever or say whatever but thats the actual reality of the situation.
@@InfiniteRhombus This might be from back around 2010-2011 when 1 bitcoin was less than 1 cent in US dollars.
@@InfiniteRhombus Bitcoins are much harder to mine now than they used to be, that's literally how the system is intended to function.
@@InfiniteRhombus you must don't know anything about crypto in the beginning he could have done.. that check up about something before you comment!!!
@@InfiniteRhombus 80000 bitcoin does seem to be a huge exaggeration. Wouldn't they be a billionaire if that was the case?
I do know a bitcoin millionaire (I should have taken his advice way back in 2010!), hell, I'd have a good half a million quid if I'd kept the bitcoins I bought back then, instead of buy (decent quality) drugs! LoL!
My friend mined most all of his. Beginning with two PCs, then I saw him about 6months later and he had most of his room whirring away, mining for him (about 20 PCs all linked up)... He mined maybe a few hundred coins, and this was from 2009 until about 2015 - around when they ROCKETED up in value! By his own admission, he'd have around £15million IF he'd sold at the right time. But he wasn't into the markets as such, and literally about half a year, maybe a year later, he sold them all and got £5million out of it all. And yeah, he got out of it then. He concentrated all his time and effort on Bitcoin right from the beginning. "Mate, it's free money... just gotta mine it."
He was getting about a couple of coins a day at the start. Then it was about a coin once a month - even with vastly improved computing power. It was getting harder basically.
He had a mental breakdown in the end... I don't know why exactly, but he literally became someone who never saw daylight for months on end, so that probably had something to do with it!?
He even paid his shrink with bitcoin at the time! LoL!
But yeah, he's out of it now, just living (healthily now) his life, spending his time spending! Sonofabitch! LoL! He literally just travels the world now. Doing nothing in particular... fair enough...
Man, I remember buying bitcoin when they were less than £1 per coin. Now they're about £8000 a coin! I'd buy 70 coins(about £65 at the time!) and spend them on drugs... Now, those coins would set me up easily! About £560 000 (half a million quid, just over...)
Wish I could get my past out of my head! "What if... What if... What if I'd done this...?" etc. etc.
Oh well...
This guy is the definition of “I’m in...”
for real haha
you son of a bitch
Facts! 10 million dollars!? Shittttttttt
Shit call me a nerd....but im all in!!!
"See you on the other side"
knowing computer science myself, this dude is too humble to admit that he is a genius doing things waaaaay earlier than anyone else
Hahaha did you sleep through your classes?
genius is bill gates
@@araz911 haha ikr this guy is just a loser
@@araz911 yeah, no. he`s a business man, gates. that`s all. He bought the code and trademark for Microsoft Windows from others. Like, read a book bro.
@@attack3 why did you just got angry when I opened the facts here? talk with args
A true 1st generation hacker, I have so much respect for this guy. None of these guys get the respect they deserve. They are the true pioneers of modern society.
Absolutely 100%. Pioneers of the human race.
They were seen as invaluable enough to get away with fraud and be given jobs instead of prison. I'd say that's some appreciation right there.
The irony in your statement of giving him respect 🤣 fuck his past, he hacks for a living, hope he hacks your shit and you give him the credit you say he deserves 😭💀
@@alexanderrivera3693 watch the video derp
@@robhenry3126 I kind of agree with you
Him tearing up and talking about his wife warms my heart . She was his saving grace. He is a smart smart man! Go you!!!!
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@@hackermicheal9877 Lmao gtfo
she could smell the potential otherwise his ass would have been out of there
@@agee7777 how do you know that ? Even the most unlovable and corrupt find love. Of you kne y story you would agree. My life is changed now. But everyone is desirable to someone .
He is actually a very dangerous individual! I'm glad he's on our side.
It would be awesome if he became a Hacktivist and ripped off these large scale companies that offer scam concepts like "For Profit" schooling.
Like all dangerous ppl.
No shit!!! Scares me a bit. Not him but the others.... Love this guy
More like capable. A dangerous person is just a capable person with a no conscience.
@@mechadonia that part it all goes down to having a conscious or soul while others sleep walk with none just feeding to their anima and desires leading them to suffer and disperse that hate since they aren't loved or can't love themselves hence creative energy , hence authencity vs synthetic
i cant even put to words how much likable this person feels to me. I would definitely want him as my friend if we were going in the same school
I really felt his words when he got choked up talking about meeting his wife and her family becoming his own. I really like this man and proud of him for never giving up as a child. ❤
This is the most interesting person I have ever seen on here. Love the interview :D pls do a Part 2
that's for sure...getting tired of moron nutjobs...this guy is fascinating...
Facts💯
Top 5K
You mean the gay sex addict wasn't more interesting lol
Man... Am I the only one who felt like 42 minutes just wasn't enough? Need more from Gummo!
Noticing I was almost finished with this one made me wish I could forget and watch again, I hope he does another interview:)
100% agree!!! I must know more! 😀
Agreed, we need a lot more Gummo!
He has a podcast on Spotify called "Hackers Podcast".
Absolutely
This guy is AWESOME, he definitely deserves a Netflix documentary of his life and I would watch every damn minute
What if it was a book?
@@uchicha666 i would read it too
@@pamelaveraibar5149 you sure? :)
Yes.
Not Netflix, something decent.
I hope he watched this and know's just how many people are inspired and proud of him.
@King Croc lmaooo
@King Croc I meant I hope he read the comments 🤣
@King Croc I'd still watch an interview of myself lol
I hope he knows that he could have his life ruined by the type of criminal activity he himself engaged in. What a great guy
This guy is incredible. What a smart, well-spoken genius.
I always pay attention to how someone talks. He's very precise and doesnt talk vaguely on his topics. He doesnt talk too slow/fast. It's like a good CPU chip doing its job.
You just afraid he hacks you if you comment something negative don't you 😃
The closest thing to batman we'll ever deserve
10:51 - Man, this part when he starts talking about his then girlfriend and now wife really made me smile. The part at 11:02 was something else. When you see Gummo tearing up and all the fond memories starting to rush back to him that make him emotional. You see him start to move his right hand, something he's never done for 10 minutes and longer sitting there. He doesn't know how to handle it. It's a sign that he got overwhelmed with feelings and doesn't know how to process it.
You hear his voice start to crack and how quickly he gets on the verge of tears. I immediately knew why. This was the first time in his life that he felt love and that he was welcomed somewhere. We was embraced with open arms by his girlfriend's family, when for all that time he didn't have his own who would do it. I know that fcking feeling too well...
We NEED to feel wanted in life, we NEED to feel that we belong. Unfortunately we are humans, we are flawed. We are run by oir emotions and our desire to be a part of the group. It is sad that we are social creatures, because we have needs that we ourselves cannot fulfill, no matter how much we tried. We have to rely on others to do it for us and that is a really stopid fcking thing. I wish that wasn't the case, but that is not the world we live in.
It is a lonely existence being a human, a lonesome road paved with harsh gravel that we must walk ourselves, only in hopes that alnog the way someone shows up who wants to walk along side us...
Amen. May all of us find our walking partner on this gravelly road
I really loved how his eyes lit up as soon as he started talking about computers/coding. Love hearing about people's passions.
You could see he genuinely loves it !
that be a Nerdgasm.. 😊
Mira. You're gorgeous
Weirdo
@@logicalmalethink4925
or maybe just Playa??? 🧐
he looks so happy when he talks about his wife 🥺
My thought also
I don't care what anyone says. This dude is literally a bad ass in my book. What a strong dude.
I read Gummo and instantly thought
*POP THIS NIGGA LIKE WHEELIE NIGGA U A SILLY NIGGA*
@@XXXTentaclez Lol Takashi 69
@@XXXTentaclez nigga prolly wired 69 some money 😂
Strong? 😂
I agree! I had a very similar life, single mother that was poor as shit in Southern California, 8086 computer bought at a yard sale in the 90s, running a bulletin board system as an escape from getting jumped at school. Lets just say if you avoid drugs and alcohol and choose a more complicated addiction then your set.
Listening to this man share his sorry was so mesmerizing. I am a computer science major now and I have complete respect and admiration for this man as I understood some basics he spoke about. Awesome guy great interview!
I have to give the guy credit for forgiving his mother for her flaws and realizing she was doing the best she could.
That’s the mark of a good man.
Forgive but never forget , that's how I see it .
@@szczepankobylarz7477 its more sincere then that. From my perspective, he realizes he would have done as she did, if the roles were reversed.
@@damiensoubassis2738 I suppose
@@szczepankobylarz7477 definitely, forgiveness shifts how you see the past event. Once you forgive, you will then see how much you’ve been able to grow from that experience rather resent it. Forgetting will never put you at peace with yourself as you avoid recognizing the good things such as wisdom or even interpersonal accomplishments you gained due to putting effort in overcoming the set back of the event.just changed the perspective and opens the opportunity for healing and control over your life.
This guy had a rough life and did what he had to do to survive. He is brilliant and needs a movie deal.
Yes he should play himself too if he wants.
When his voice starts to crack when talking about his wife and her family, it just kills me. His life changed when someone believed in him. He could have succumbed to the bad hand life deals so many, but he never gave up. His story is so powerful. I hope he reads all the comments. He has done so much good and is still humble. He remembers and knows how badly it could have turned out. Work hard, work smart, and do no harm. Thank you, Gummo and interviewer. Inspirational to say the least.
Amen!
i was choked up. ppl dont realize how heavy the world is for some folks
@@IAmRickMagic h.
Ess
I know, I started to get choked up too.
This (and the follow up) remains my favorite video on youtube. I always come back to this story.
He is very interesting. When he teared up talking about his wife basically saving him from his car you could tell he needed that desperately at the time. Best wishes to him!
The brain never fails to astonish me ,And he’s got one hell of a one so so clever ,Very happy for him
He's loves his woman. That's refreshing nowdays.
That showed his humility and love. Beautiful.💖
@@DELL.ACNT. After all these years and the people he's met.💖
When he teared up I had a horrible feeling she died , thank goodness it was just pure emotional happiness.
I once typed "Hacked by me!!" On my friends myspace page when he forgot to log out. You can interview me later
Heckerman
Remember when Apple Store employees would check Facebook to see who left their account logged in and start shitposting?
@Bh. Ad Your ISP sees everything.
My nephews friend logged on to his Facebook on my laptop.... when he left I wrote on his status that he came out of the closet that he is gay. Some of his Facebook friends unfriended him and some showed support. I was even talking to them on is messenger on Facebook. i went kinda too far LOL
impressive.. so i actually work for the pentagon and we are in dire need of a person with your set of skills. do you wan't to work with us?
The way he speaks of his wife’s love is a dream vibe. God bless them.
I know right.... make s you want to keep going !!!
🥲☺️
This man’s voice is lulling me into a trance. His story is so so inspiring and interesting. Truly a stand up guy. I’ve watched tons of stories on this channel. Finally a breath of fresh air.
Such a sweet soul. He's so meek yet so powerful but humble not to let his power corrupt him.
Real and deep integrity
Would be funny if his succes was all lies
@@Melinmingle Absolutely. If would be hilarious. Don't believe everything you read/ hear/ watch!!
Agree. Wellsaid
He seems smug to me
Such a genuine dude. I enjoyed the hell of what he had to say. He made me tear up when he said that his girlfriend and her parents "believed in him."
I was Leary to keep listening cause I thought he was getting emotional because something tragic, but nope just genuine love something that was lost in the decades before, great video, and very good point for me to reflect on my relationship personally!
@@killjoi8762 ...it is "leery." as in "Timothy Leary...." from your school monitor, FAF.....
Because he never had a "Father"
@@djbishop30189 ... Many of us never had a father. Mine died when I was four. My mum.... Widowed at age 33 with 6 kids. Jungle rules. It is odd when I meet a gal with one kid, bemoaning her fate. It is what it is ....
I'm so glad someone believed in him!
What a calm, wise, intelectual soul. That talk was better than therapy. No idea how I even got to this video.
I love Gummo’s story. Very cool and what a great person. You can tell he has been through alot by how he speaks. Thx for sharing your story, we loved it. ❣️🍀
He figured this out at age 14? He is a genius. I’m 61 and I still can’t figure out how to log out of Twitter.
poor bait, try harder next time
😂😂😂
lol!
Yr 61 & have Twitter!! I’m 41 & don’t even have twitter. 😂
the security at the time was really really bad and most hacking was actually done over the phone rather than with a computer, so it was impressive but really not as impressive as it seems not to discount his skill in any way it's still plenty impressive.
My god Gummo I cannot believe this!!! He was my coworker and let me tell you guys this man is just as amazing behind the scenes. Hes about the most humble person ever
Fr fr?
Get out of here with you’re forealforeal loser
@@bryangaytan7136 nigga what? 😂
For real??
@@bryangaytan7136 fr fr
‘My entire existence depended on my willingness to make sure i was taking care of myself’ WOW
Right
powerful
@@AwfulLottaYea idk if I'm sold on that. He doesn't seem like a narcissist.
@@AwfulLottaYea what the fuck you talking about??
@@seventhhieronymus1867 so a narcissist is someone who makes sure that they themselves get to enjoy the fruits of thier labor?
Incredible story to add towards the channel. Mark, thank you for this channel and what you do for the community.
It was lovely watching him going from emotional when he was talking about his childhood to passionate when he started talking about hacking. What a great interview, what a fascinating man. Once again, thanks Mark!
When he got emotional talking about his wife, i felt that. My wife also saved me. God bless man.
why cant you save yourself. Why would you need a wife to manipulate you. Could you explain
@@PipMane Prick.
@@PipMane why are you such a loser?
I appreciate when you take the time to interview a genius.
He should have his own podcast. Covering everything from his personal experience and how to deal with such things, how you feel going through it to coding, hacking etc. the world is his oyster! Good luck and great story! Would probably help and inspire millions of people!
IM NOT SURE I BELIEVE ALL OF HIS STORIES. THE GAS TANK HACK,,THE ATM CARDS....THE WAY TO USE CC TO GET TO ATM,,,,CONVINCING STORE MANAGERS HE LEFT FOOD BEHIND???????????? SOUNDS SUS.
This guy is very intelligent, and yet talks on a level that is tangible. I really enjoy listening to him speak, so interesting! I appreciate this episode, thanks soft white underbelly! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Jess - totally! You can tell he's never really forgotten the little kid he was in Jacksonville.
A great viewpoint, Jess. I agree. His humble nature is refreshing.
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2 Nobody knew the reasons why people were taken away. But it could affect everyone. Therefore, in every house, for such an occasion, a bag with essentials was hung by the door. Once they came for me. As a teacher, I was taken to the camp to teach Chinese and teach propaganda songs to prisoners. The cell had a concrete floor, walls and five video cameras on the ceiling. 20 people huddled on 16 square meters. The prisoners were wearing uniforms and handcuffs. They were all shaved baldly. In the camp, I also worked in a hospital, where I witnessed how prisoners were given medicines unnecessarily, maybe experiments were being carried out to, for example, make women infertile. At one of the meetings, she witnessed how the guards raped a young woman in front of 200 prisoners. Anyone who showed sympathy for her himself became the object of humiliation and torture in a "black" room with an electric chair, where I was also tortured until I lost consciousness. Since I visited the camp, sometimes I cannot even climb onto the bed myself. In the cell, I slept too long on the cold concrete floor, and now I have rheumatism. At 43, I became a sick person, although I was completely healthy before the camp, ”says the book“ Die Kronzeugin ”(The Main Witness) by German writer Alexandra Kavelius and Sairagul Sauytbai about the“ camps ”in Xinjiang.
Gulzira Auelkhan: “My job was to take off their clothes above the waist and put on handcuffs so that they could not move,” said Gulzira Auelkhan, crossing her wrists behind her head for a demonstration. “Then I left the women in the room and a man came in - some Chinese outside or a policeman. I sat silently at the door, and when the man left the room, I took the woman in the shower. " According to her, Chinese men "would pay money to select the most beautiful young inmates." Some former camp inmates said they were forced to help the guards or were punished. Auelhan said she was powerless to resist or interfere. When asked if there is a system of organized rape, she replied: "Yes, rape." “They made me go into that room,” she said. "They made me take off those women's clothes, hold their hands and leave the room." According to Ziavudun, some of the women who were taken from their cells at night were never returned. The returnees were threatened that they would not tell others in the cell about what had happened to them. “You cannot tell anyone about what happened, you can only lie down quietly,” she said. "He was created to destroy everyone's spirit."
“It was scary and cold there. I thought I was going to die here. I was asked something in Chinese, I could not answer. Then I was electrocuted. When I lost consciousness, they poured water over me and I came to my senses. Then again they asked something in Chinese. They stuck nails into their hands, tied them by the hair, it seemed that the neck was about to break, needles were stuck under the nails, ”she says.
Quanguo has turned the entire region into a police state with checkpoints between cities and within cities - between districts, with a network of cameras with facial recognition, with mandatory ID scanning to enter houses and shopping centers. Everywhere - policemen in uniform and civilian clothes.
Forced organ harvesting in China is carried out in relation to representatives of ethnic, linguistic or religious minorities detained in different regions, and they are often not told the reasons for detention or there is no arrest warrant, "- says the conclusion of 12 experts, the most popular organs for seizure are the heart , kidneys, liver and cornea of the eye, and this measure is applied to members of the banned Falun Gong movement, Uyghurs, Tibetans, Muslims and Christians.
Imagine that you were imprisoned in an internment camp or sentenced to years in prison solely on the basis of: your ethnicity; you are traveling, living or studying abroad; the number of children you have; your religion; the presence of WhatsApp on the phone; or your calls to friends and family abroad. This is the reality of the 1 million men and women detained in Xinjiang since 2017.
Evidence compiled by Amnesty International provides a factual basis for concluding that the Chinese government has committed crimes against humanity in Xinjiang
Jess~ facts! I love when ppl with high intellect are also relatable and genuine!
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he wasn’t allowed to wear his crown for the interview
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No. He chose not to.
Crown?
@@thetrintarianmessianicyahw589 STFU
Jesus Christ. People this smart just absolutely blow my mind
Makes me feel horrible about myself because I try to be a good honest and caring person and try to work hard and do a good job for my employer which I like and take of my family and still struggle.
I was about to say the same thing!!!
Right?!?! Lol I’m just watching eating goldfish.
@@MayorofNumber3 Honey, if you're doing All that, Be Proud of Yourself because You're Making our world Better by Being You!!!👏👏👏
Acquire knowledge. Not Dollar's
Gummo, you reached me, you influenced me. Your message isn't a new one, but while watching your interview, a pang of motivation arose from within me. I guess I was ready to receive this message today. Thank you.
When he almost cried talking about his wife’s family taking him in… you can see how big of a pivoting point that was for him after such an unfortunate upbringing.
@FM you must be great at lying too if you can spot his performance so well.
@FM I don't think so mate. His crying seemed too real and you can tell he's very nervous in front of the camera and not good at all at handling his emotions. After all, he's talking about his family and an important point in his life so it makes sense for him to be moved by the mere thought of it.
@FM And what does he get out of social engineering strangers in an interview of this format? Take advantage, how? Do you think he has predicted that he will see you at W time in X place to do Y thing requiring your Z mental state? At this point the interview does nothing for him. He didn't try to make anything seem cool, he stated what he did rather plainly, and who doesn't smile while recalling "good times?" He wasn't dwelling or tooting his horn, he was asked to give his life story, his perspective... He had to survive so these "bad" things were just what a child had to do...A child who didn't get parenting or help.
Another thing, every manipulator knows that using pity is a risky con because people have such repulsion towards it's constant expression. This interview in every way is a risk if he's trying to manipulate, it'd have been better to not even try to lie about an origin story than put out public example of his technique. Avoid weaving lies whenever possible because every lie you weave is part of the web you maintain AND you give away your methods. If you make a slip, it's a breadcrumb that time will always unveil. Given we're not omniscient, you can't mitigate all risk in any lie so to live as a liar for a long time you need moderation.
You're really not as clever as you think you are and people aren't as simple as you think. You're not going to get far if you just assume the worst in people out of the inability to discern the best. You cross me as someone with very little life experience and who doesn't know how to interact with/doesn't understand people. There's so many ways we can go at it, but do you really not see all the behaviours/gestures/whatever in this video and really cannot confidently cross-analyze with your personal experience? I'm confident with just a few key minutes of video, and we have a whole hour to analyze. Not even the best method actor could endure video scrutiny without time limit.
Since he's a self proclaimed social engineer, he's clearly aware of this and I highly doubt he's so dumb. If anything, if this was a con, the best thing is to be 100% honest to play as if he's reformed. There's just so many ways to go about it, but seriously, are you so bad at reading people that you think you can only use some purely logical argument instead of all the behaviour? Just for example, Rudolf illustrated what your blind axiomatic thinking leads to and you debated him on his conclusion of you. Fortunately, unlike Rudolf, you have an entire hour of content that shows clear strteam of conscious, etc...I'm going to assume you're sheltered, disabled, and young...But, personally, I don't really think you're this ignorant and you're playing your own con.
@@IgnacioEsteves some people just want to feel better about themselves and dismiss genius when they see it
@FM Mouthbreather, eh?
The craziest thing is you can tell this guy is sitting on a fortune fit for a king and he still relates to his humble beginnings. Shows true character right there. A very good motivational speaker
What?
He's full of delusions of grandeur, blames others and glosses over his failures.
This, is a sociopath.
He's laughing while talking about decrypting people's bank accounts and entire lives they've worked so hard for.. would you say the same thing about a bank robber who had a hard childhood.. he's sitting on a pile of stolen money. Complete shitbag that doesn't care about other people. Complete garbage of a human being
Really, his eyes tell me of a wise man that has fought many battles with him self. People like this are introverts and have a different wiring than you hecklers im here trying to judge a man.
Clean up your own sjit b4 adressing others:)
@@odinshunter9297 ah yes until you steal from countless people and have social issues, you can't have an opinion of someone else that has these experiences.
Wait... that's incredibly illogical. I'm fairly certain understanding sociopathic red flags and commenting on them doesn't require one to have lived the same life as this guy. We all have struggles. We all know right from wrong and he chose to steal from others amongst numerous other crimes and having a hard childhood doesn't excuse that. I've met numerous former drug abusers, people from broken homes, people that simply "had it worse" that would never dream of stealing from others because they simply didn't want to get a job and be a functional member of society.
This isn't some hero, this is a former criminal driven by delusions of grandeur and selfish desires whom got lucky in the long run. The same people that promote this felon, this ex-con as some virtuous individual that overcame adversity, are the same that believe narrative is more important than fact.
@@InitialFailure listen, we all have baggage and flaws that needs attention. If we throw rocks at eachothers over how we fail as humans its not going to be a pretty world. A big part of the human population scam, lie or have grand illusions during life where people get hurt. Look at the world m8, most of are taking advantages where possible. Its in our culture.
We should all open up like this and have followups ;) at least we learn something instead of shouting at eachother.
I wish us all a year we start to make changes to the way we think and behave each and everyone of us. I believe we have a chance like never before to make this little ball of dirt floating around in space a better place despite the chaos of all things. Maybe i have grand illusions too? 😂
I wish you an yours good and healthy life♥️
His little smirks when he flex’s is so genuine and authentic he KNOWS how much of a badass he is
people really overlooking that he made that guy a billionaire. 80000 at the value it peaked at 65000, is 5.2 billion. even if it was at the value of now 18,000 would still be 1.4 billion. this guy should be a millionaire right now for doing that, at least for commission. edit: just checked hes a literal billionaire himself loool.
**flexes*
See? I can be authentic as well by correcting people's grammar and let me tell ya! I feel so badass right now! 😎 Haha!
/j
Attracted to him..🤢
@@shawnprivate5322 Literally wot.
I can’t even breach what gender he is
Friend just recommended your channel to me this evening, am watching first videos - this is lovely, I know it's old but what a sympathetic character, he feels like a friend by the end of it. Found watching Rebecca too upsetting.
as a person who works in IT, this guy is fascinating! truly a genius to accomplish all of that, especially in the early 90's and 2000's. i hope we get a second interview with him! thank you as always, Mark
It's crazy to think that someone so smart with all that knowledge about computers when they were just coming around couldn't work at any place nice just because he didn't go to highschool like a sheep
I'm in IT as well, and this was fantastic. He's the kind of guy I'd love to take out for a few beers and just listen to what he has to say.
@@tropicalplauge8817 If you are that smart I don't think you need a nice job.
@@tropicalplauge8817 fast forward to nowadays many don’t care if you have a degree they care about how hands on you are, knowledgeable, helpful. It ain’t about degrees anymore, least where I live anyway.
@@alwaysuknown7770 True, if you want a real high paying gig, get into their network and show them how weak it is. Hospitals are notorious for lax security, you could make as much as you want with fake accounts in retired doctor's names and use any large hospital billing dept. to process all the info through medicare, just make sure to bill for small things and as long as they're what that doctor did no red flags will go up for a long time. The amount of money processed through a medical billing dept. at a major hospital is insane, the volume of information and billable items to choose from is mind boggling. That being said, I am in no way advocating criminal activity.
His eyes lit up and he cracked his first smile talking about his lady.
This guy really seems like he can be a professor at a university teaching computer science. Appears very intelligent. Can we please get an update on him????
Still looks the same, except for the rusty vertical lines running down in front of him.
@@atlantic_love They have Twitter in prison?
@@atlantic_love They'll go away once you get out of prison.
@@DestinyKey13 Not in prison, but thanks.
@@atlantic_love you mad bro?
The way he speaks about his accomplishments is so humble, you really wouldn’t know how amazing he is, if you were passively listening.
My mother passed when I was 17 she took her last breath holding my hand in her bed. Had a blood clot on her lung. Stay up brother. We all believe in you keep on keeping on
I watched my mom pass too crazy sad after that I went into more sex could have learned a real skill I learned something
Im so sorry for your loss ❤
@@sirtrillathon5507 I wish I could give you a hug ❤
@@Amberlynnslivertit thank you. it will be 10 years on the 9th of January. Will always feel like yesterday
@@sirtrillathon5507 hey friend you got all the time in the world to still learn whatever you won’t. I’m sure your mother is proud of you and loves you either way. Keep your head up
When he cracks up about his wife and her family. So so touching. What an amazing person.
I get a BS vibe from him.
:) :) exact Emily
That means he has heart.
Thats the big turnaround point in his life before going too deep into the dark side...
Which also lights his entire life until now...
@@badxradxandy why?
His expression changed completely when he startted talking about his wife and how her family took care of him so wholesome bruh
yet he doesn't wear the wedding ring. i wonder why
yet he doesn't wear the wedding ring. i wonder why
@@frankdrebin2343 maybe he doesn't want someone to steal it or he just lost it my dad lost his ring like 20 years ago 💀
@@frankdrebin2343 Been married 10 years and I never wear a ring.
@@frankdrebin2343 you DONT have to wear a ring. I’ve never been married but some couples DONT wear rings. That shit doesn’t define marriage at all.
Genius! So well spoken and gentle ! I could listen to him all day long !
This man is a legend. From the gutter to riches. And he doesn’t even care about riches. Dude is just living life doing what he wants. I wish I could sit at the bar with this man and just talk over some beers. I love how emotional he got about his wife’s family letting him in with opening arms. Very inspiring story. I wish this man the best.
fuck beers, I want to work for this guy and actually better the world.
He made $10 million dollars and still cared enough to go get a day job and not let the money lead him down further a darker path definitely a legend.
Yeah, I got pretty choked up hearing about his wife's family.
People keep saying he is brilliant (he is, now) but the thing that stuck out for me was that he never stopped learning, deepening his knowledge and skills. I believe thats the real lesson here. You don't need to be born a genius. If you are curious and tenacious and stick to something, you will master it.Thats the talent.
it's baffling to me, since I never heard him mention any formal education. People spend years in higher institutions getting Phd's in mathematics and computer science to learn programming and computer security. How does some wayward guy from the street manage to defy all of that?
@@aliensoup2420 He started in the beginning when technology was just getting started per say. He didn't "learn" most of it. He created it.
@@aliensoup2420 He literally says he's going to school
Well spoken
persistence and consistency is the 🔑
If “started from the bottom now we here” was a person
You're going to hell for this comment..... GOLD!!
I dont get it
@@Drilla81 google
@@andrewanthony7728 What's that ?
@@Drilla81 ask yo momma
“Someone who believed in me.” I felt that.
Everybody's gangsta until you hear someone says "I've been a hacker for 36 years"
32 years count? :) Mining since 2009? Do I get a cookie at least? ;/
@@aerial5587 mining since 2009 , that's more than one 🍪 for sure!!!
You just won best Internet comment. 💯👊
@@AliciaM5555 oh dear, I feel so touched.
"I wanna dedicate this award to the amazing hacker and his wife that stood up for him and believed him from the start.
Thank you all ❤️"
I mean he knows my shit, god damn.
I'm in cybersecurity, studying for my Comptia Sec+. Considered giving up and becoming a nurse. Thank God I seen this interview. Needed more than anything.
What are you using to study? I’m studying java through Udemy right now but I got a degree in cyber security and would like to brush up on my skills
@@samuraid3574 that's wassup. I got into a state program that pays for me to take my Sec+. I'm using the Comptia book they gave me as well as a pen testing book I bought
@@Youdontknowsnot goodluck with the Sec+. are you able to provide a link for the books you got?
Don't give up! I passed the Sec+ back around 2010 and the knowledge has served me well and gave me a foundation to build upon. I've gone on to get my CCNA, MS Azure (cloud) cert, DCSE, and a few others. I have no formal college education, yet I have 12+ years in the enterprise IT industry all because someone gave me a chance at my lowest point in life and paid for me to get the Sec+. These days my job and main focus is enterprise linux infrastructure (cloud/on prem servers, DBs, firewalls, virtualization, etc) and networking.
@@samuraid3574 www.amazon.com/Penetration-Testing-Hands-Introduction-Hacking/dp/1593275641 is one. It's a bit dated. But follow it along with the youtube vids and you got a good foundation for pen testing (my opinion)
This man truly loves his wife. Man you can tell he holds her in so much regard
First of all, I love your work. Your interviews are so well chosen, thought out and executed. With that said, this has to be my favorite one. Gummo if he hasn't already, should write a book and sell his story for a movie. He is so likeable and endearing. Such an inspiring person. I relate to him in many non-hacker ways. Man I would love to be his friend. The stories he would have., also his interests and how his mind works is awesome.
his voice is mad intimidating but relaxing at the same time...I can’t comprehend it-
The word you are looking for is called "sociopath"
@@Narniak69 Where do you get that?
It’s like talking to someone who’s being friendly but who’s fought with you previously
I feel like some very smart and knowledgeable people speak with this cadence. He was also really trying to give a very grim message about the dangers of criminal hackers.
Youv just made Me realize although hes confident hes pissed off at the same time hearing it at the same time so its irritating you and chillin as im nearly fallin asleepm
One of the most fascinating and truly humbling interviews I've ever watched. What a good man.
I met Gummo at DefCon a long time ago, he was just as genuine then as now. It's what makes him such an epic social engineer as well.
how do we find him on IG or twitter? or reach out to him?
@@milanacampbell2352 twitter.com/keasondrawdy?lang=en
I don't think he's on IG anymore
Him and mudge were close friends of mine. I was a l0pht member
@@DrewTheRoosty808 lol
I know I commented the first time I watched this but I came back cuz I could listen to him speak for hours. His voice is calming & his intelligence & talent is through the roof. I'm so happy him & his wife found each other.
I felt his compassion when he got shook up talking about his girlfriend/wife.
7:01 "My entire existence depended on my willingness to make sure I was taking care of myself." I think we could all use this quote and apply it to our lives.
Yeah but remember he was only a kid still when he came to that realization
The most compelling resume I've ever seen. This gentleman will never be out of work.
My man don’t need to work he already has thousands of bitcoin 😂
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There will ALWAYS be some Asian guy somewhere that does it better
If this world were run by more people like Gummo, what a different lens we would view one another, through!. What a remarkable human!. So, too, the follow-up interview w/him. Way back when, I edited a Master's of EE thesis on Chaotic Cryptography. This interview makes me think that I should have gone into that field, myself. Instead, I went into Public Health, which got turned upside down and became even more politicized during the pandemic. His interview here gives me hope for humanity.
Teaching yourself how to code in basic in the 80s is unequivocally more impressive than anything that he was supposed to be learning causing his grades to slip
I remember taking that class in 1981. It sucked.
The Languages are impressive as well, COBOL & FORTRAN
Jeezo, I look at C++ now and think of it as little more than an ancient, disorganised, poorly structured mess, can't even begin to imagine how awful things were when C++ was seen as an improvement.
most of us started this way
Yea , start coding today is like having 40 years of homework due 💀