Brothel Owner-Freddy
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Freddy, a former brothel owner in Las Vegas and Orange County (California).
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This is his book. Madam Suzanne: The Mastermind Behind Orange County Brothels
By Fadi Chaiban
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well, everyone is entitled to their opinion...I have no reason to lie...with all due respect, I have zero ego...I am a very confident man, I believe in myself, so maybe to you, I came across as full of myself...confidence are cocky are two different animals.....stay healthy and safe...
@@realmadamsuzanne you make 0 sense with everything you say and continue to say. You prey on the weak and vulnerable
@@realmadamsuzanne Honestly, you are a good looking man who seemingly worked hard on his body. You also seem to have done well for yourself with regards to school and employment. Especially for having left home at such a young age. So yes, for sure you have a few reasons to be confident. And i ALMOST believed you on the "zero ego part" until i read through some of the comments and you are responding to a LOT of them. If that does not scream "ego" then clearly I have forgotten the definition. I have never seen anyone comment this much on their own video. And like you said, everyone is entitled to their opinion, so that was mine. Stay healthy and safe :-)
No one with a good childhood leaves home at 13.
Crazy, the common theme is that a lot of these people had some sort of bad family dynamic. Really shows what a decently health family relationship will do
Seriously 😂
Right??? Good childhood but had to leave because his mom got beat...
He is so manipulative I would take everything he says with a grain of salt
This guy is a big fat liar. If he could hide his true identity from his ex, just imagine what he's done to other people. He's a crook.
I’d be interested in seeing an interview with one of the girls who worked for him.
Plenty of those from mark. Not his girls. But. Street girls. I used to be on the streets. Rough life
@@JayDillDrumssounds like his girls weren't on "the street"
Me too..
yeah but would be interesting to compare if what he's saying is total bullshit or not. I think that's what the OP was referring to. @@JayDillDrums
The girls never talk. Too afraid of consequences. It's how Andrew Tate is seemingly getting away with it. I despise him.
And no sex work is anything other than seedy and despite what he says, I think he's making out it was all glamour, I bet that's 50% at best
It's amazing how people's own reality is so distorted. Having a good childhood and leaving home at 13 because dad abused mom don't go together.
Exactly I was like huh 🤔
He wanted to hang out with the thugs, don’t follow the rules, that’s my take on it.
So true same thing and age and family affairs happened with me !
I think he meant his childhood, not the teen years..
@@EmiCa68 If you have to leave home at 13, the same stuff was going on in your childhood.
Because he's the one telling his story, it's safe to assume the real story is about 40% - 50% seedier than he presents it.
I was thinking like 75% seedier.
I found myself thinking pretty much the same thing.
Agreed. I smell i bit of human trafficking as well.
ikr? how does he even go from amateur bodybuilder probably making close to no money (since he said before he had stopped working for people already at that time) to owning a club?
How do you get seedier than running brothels, selling women for sex? He straight up admitted that.
He nailed the brothel owner look.
LOL same tought
Rooster looking lol
Based on ?
@@RK-su4hs His looks ? 😂😂😂😂
Roided up guy with greeeaasy hair
"I hate liars."
Doesn't tell his girlfriend of three years his real name.
🤣
Facts!
I wish I could tell the real truth but I'd rather be called a liar here than risk someone else's life...one day the whole truth will come out..I'll just leave it at that
Hypocrisy is a basic human condition, we all have blind spots. It takes a lot of reflection on our words & actions to be aware of them. I've done it, I was disturbed & angered by my self- analysis. It's not fun work
@@alwayslookingatself you are spot on..and as you know it is, and always will be, an ongoing process. Thank you so much for sharing your enlightened reflection..happy new year
Hearing someone talk this calmly about running a brothel is nothing short of pathological.
He has no soul.
Scary how disconnected some can be.
Is it bad I am watching it bcuz I want to open one?
Everybody is pathological. What the fuck do you think it would sound like to hear an interview with John D Rockefeller or Bill Gates or Albert Bourla or Warren Buffett or Anthony Fauci or Madeline Albright?
99% of his customers were married. What is that admonition about glass houses again?
His description of his leaving home at 13 was 30 seconds. His description of his orange county mansion party is 5 minutes and still going
I don't care for the childhood BS i usually skip over it
I just wonder what happened to his mom after he left.
"Great childhood"
He's not at therapy lol, underbelly stories mostly cover their adulthood and hardships around it. He did mention a bunch of other stuff about his childhood which you flew over.
Honestly he probably just didn't care enough about his childhood
Sounds llike the dude's true passion is interior design
Underrated comment 😅
😅😅😅
He was really good at glamorizing his business, this is what greed will do. Now i want to hear the girls stories lol
thats gonna be so interesting lol
you will be hearing the girls stories on my podcast, soon...I can't wait, its gonna be awesome....glad you watched, thank you for your time....I really appreciate you....stay healthy happy and safe @realmadamsuzanne
Me too. There’s always more to the story, there’s his version, story A,the ladies under his employ’s versions, stories B, and what is the actual truth, story C. without hearing both sides of the story it’s impossible to get to story C (the truth) which has the most value and relevance.
@@realmadamsuzanne if they cleared 25 to 30 thousand a month i think it's a good job
@@cleocatra1242 yea you know there are many things they have not told him that went on in those rooms.
"I was never into drugs: except for weed + ectasy and i sold coke "
It's pretty funny when people say things like that! But I think he meant that he experimented once or twice but it didn't turn into a habit. I also have smoked cigarettes for a very brief time in my life as well as tried edibles but I don't consider myself a drug user or a smoker.
marybelarenas64 compared to the amount of drugs he was probably around all day everyday, weed/ecstasy once or twice is NOTHING lol
Those aren’t that bad tbh
🤣😂🤣🤣😂
@@melissaredhead6000 Thats what he meant when he said he smoke weed once and Xtasy twice but i think the ubderlying implication was that he doesnt even like both of those which are relatively harmless compared to heroin, coke, crack, etc
I learned a long time ago to avoid this type of person like the plague. Scary how many people get conned into this lifestyle.
"Easy Money is the hardest money to make".
A word.
Hardest to keep in your pocket
easy to make but, it's the hardest to keep.
Hardest to keep. Burns a hole right through these fools pockets.
@@JohnDoe-pt7xx 1000% true!!!!
Student loans are the real P.I.M.P. at this level of the game.
Entrapment. That's pretty much the bottom line of credit in general!!
@@thatsthejobbb8587 Word.
FACTS!!!💯✔👀 Student loans... Modern Day Slavery
Maybe Biden will actually cut us a break. Ill believe it when I see it
Can’t lie. I’ve definitely had some unsavory ideas cross my mind to alleviate my own student debt. Never acted on it, but definitely watched while some of my girlfriends get themselves debt-free being naked on the internet or escorting. I just didn’t have it in me. Five years after graduating business school i am still a waitress and still in a ton of debt.
he seems like a selfish, greedy, talkative, narcissist
P.O.S
he provided an essential service
@@MrHonification how is it essential, he is exploiting people and he’s proud of his actions
Sounded like a solid dude to me.
Good men don't become pimps and brothel owners.
he treats women like his dad treated his mother.
Yes exactly, very sad.
Correct.
He seems to treat his women pretty well based on what he describes here.
Jojo Bee they don’t see it that way.
Finn Smith hmm this is an assumption you have.... no proof to back it that can be found it this interview
How to say you're mob affiliated without saying you're mob affiliated:
1. Grew up in italian neighborhood in the 70s and 80s
2. Hung around older italian guys
3. Got kicked out of home at 13
4. Skip a lot of years (selling coke;)
5. Suddenly a body builder can move to California and start a business
There are some crucial gaps in that story. 🤔 I mean just the fact that he could operate in Vegas in the 80s means he must have been connected.
yup he is a bit of a jerk
He sold coke to fund his first business. Open your ears ✌️
@@jonathanmargetts7053 and how did that work out for him? Like I said he is a bit of a jerk
@@karenpearson8916 Maybe you're the jerk...
The most standout point, in my opinion, was his dedication to not being a rat/snitching.
"I had gotten myself used to a certain lifestyle, which is a trap"
That is the most important line in this whole episode, because there is such a thing as "enough money".
Contentment is key, and I love the fact that he realised it
Actually that is important but not for the reason you think. He alleviated himself of guilt he fell in a "trap"
Yeah well if there is such a thing as "enough money," I haven't hit it yet.
Contentment is good but need to keep growing
Wealth is one more dollar than needed. Even if needs take a million dollars.
@jaymyers7900. You will once you find the difference between your needs and wants.
Daaaaaaaamnnn this man can talk! I forgot I was listening.
LMAOO
Yeah, lots of stories. Wonder how his real life was.
Ms. H Johnson wuz u Hi? ;-)
lmfaooo. 😭😭😭
These "Soft White Underbelly" videos are superb. They deserve some type of award. Fascinating!
Incredible case study of narcissism. SWU, you do much more interesting work than I thought.
One thing I noticed about these pimps is that they LOVE to talk! Which I guess is a skill they need to recruit and keep.
and this is why they don't want the girls they pimp to talk.. ever notice... that's first rule they teach you.. don't talk.. look at the ground when spoken to.... fk outta here!!!.. I swear no Smart chick needs a pimp.... the ones that do are on drugs....I can manage my own body 🖐️
@@wildwaymonee8o8 not all girls who sell pussy are on drugs.
Also they lie.
@@liggmabawls5634 I’ll be willing to bet 98% do
@@zi787 prove it
I love it when people say "no, I don't do drugs, they're bad." and then proceed to say "oh but yeah I used to sell them."
Well, they're selling and not using. A quite smart choice.
They're not responsible for their clients' choices.
Or "Oh but I sell human beings." Drugs are an inanimate product; women are not. The idea that drugs and their users are dirty or evil while men who buy sex are not needs to die.
Jay z on letterman: I used drugs, but I didn't use drugs
What’s your point.
Drugs are dam good money. And your employers using drugs will always bring drama. So it makes sense.
He’s an engaging storyteller that’s for sure.
Gemini M yep my exact comment too! I could listen all day lol!
He's high on narcissism
You'd have to be in order to get young women and teens to be prostitutes.
@@Cynnas Haha he said he didn't allow any girl under 21.
@@CHIOTIS1821 Yeah right xD
This guy, I left home at 13 finished high school went to UMASS and managed a restaurant. 12 minutes later oh yeah I sold coke that's where I got the money to start the clubs. LMAO
Ikr!
thats very common. Wall street guys are all top college students, and they ALL do and/or sell drugs
I definitely smell an indictment for sure
Like wtf! How you forget to mention THAT PART! 😂😂😂
Interesting story
The pattern of abusive neglectful childhood is always the core.
Yeh.. once you have seen a woman be abused in your home from a young age it does something to the mind. Even if at the time you know it was wrong.
Yes I feel sorry for the clients of these girls....these male clients were surely abused
Running a brothel isn't a problem. The man is blessed because of that childhood
I think males need to be taught something as they are growing up to help them treat women better as adults.
But we don't all become hookers, junkies or pimps. Some of us rise above & evolve. Use the pain to be a success.
It's so sad to see that everything revolves around money yet he seems like the poorest guy in the world. Money does not equal wealth.
I’ve learned, money buys convenience.
Wealth is in your mind
dirty money dirty sad life
Why does he seem like the poorest guy in the world to you?
Shut your flapper
"and she was a Vegas girl to begin with" is the start of a steep moral slope that doesn't end
Have U been to Vegas?
"Easy money is the hardest money to make." - Truth.
Amen
Yes!
I like to call it hard money. It’s hard now
"the girls are always expendable", pretty much says it all about a pimp
Employees are almost always expendable.
I was reading this comment as he said that. So weird 😂
This guy is so full of shit 😂
That's almost all employers when referring to employees. Not exclusive to his business
yea in these fields that's all the girls are unfortunately just a few body parts that's why these fields are gross
After looking at his friends list on Facebook I would say he is definitely still in the business. Addictions never go away.
Exactly. He said “We don’t do that”
“I don’t know if you remember the 80’s...”
Spoken like someone who lived fast through the 80’s.
He also had to explain what the rating scale of 1 to 10 is. He throws in obvious things that everyone is aware of to make him sound honest and credible. It’s an entire technique.
75% of his girls were paying student debt. let it sink in for a minute.
So he says. He's clearly not an honest man.
@@alicekranyk4173 he sure isnt but why would he lie about that?
@@streetracervti perhaps they should have utilized their university experience and time in an ethos and discipline that would allow them to actually obtain a vocation that would facilitate employment. do we really need another strong independent angry feminist gender studies major selling pussy?
@@GrottoGroveGroves yes, its their fault they fuck for money. fuck them.
It's not true, geez.
“I hate drugs, never done drugs”. Next sentence “smoked weed once, done ecstasy a couple times, sold coke”
In his mind “never did” means “never was addicted” lmao. Like no bruh YOU DID DRUGS!
Well that’s not really doing drugs. Of course he tried weed once and did ecstasy twice but that isn’t much at all. Considering he’s telling a story decades from his prime. He considers “doing drugs” as like a weekly or daily thing, an addiction.
He seems to be full of those contradictory statements: I had a great childhood/had to leave at 13 cause my dad was abusive, hate drugs/did them and sold them, hate liars/lie about my name for 3 years.... and the list goes on.
@@chowell1451 Yeah, I kinda agree. It seems true that he never really got caught up in drugs, which would have been SO easy in the club culture-- and also the bodybuilding scene of the 80s-90s. I had just moved to LA in those years, and all those dudes were amped on roids, speed, coke. OK maybe not ALL, but it was far from wholesome!
@@chowell1451 agreed
What a nice guy to let them leave before they passed the point of no return
He’s basically a philanthropist
Lol right
He just wants to make the world happier come on now
@@erinvendetti5812 did you work for him when you were younger?
😂 lol, on point
@@janelleyharris5042 i’m sure he could put you to work for the lower end clients.
He 's just an honest guy (who just happened to lie to his girlfriend about what he was doing for 3 years).
And who he really was,
Putting words into his mouth. He said honesty was his business style. He didn't use that terminology about his personal life, which we didn't get to know much about. Also, how honest do you expect a person to be about what they do if what they do is illegal in their country.
& hates drugs but sold coke to get the down payment for his club & has & still does anabolic steroids clearly 😂😆
I’m sure she was innocent
@@John_Connor556 😂
Mark, your channel is top notch!
Shout out to everybody in the comment section
for some reason your comment reminds me of people who say " if your reading this i hope u get rich " lol. i think y'all just be saying that for likes
Supppp😊😊😊
Shout out to you as well 😇
Shout out back at you!
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Just discovered this channel. Can’t recommend it enough. No hype. No preaching. No celebrity BS. Just unvarnished confessions from ground zero of American pathology. You wanna know who we really are behind the designer sunglasses, the lip filler, the pumped up muscles, the [fill in your preferred stage prop]? This is the straight dope.
Fascinating interview. It’s dark, narcissistic and complex. We often hear the story from the girls point of view...so this was different.
fascinating...are u kidding me....extremely boring and superficial
This guy comes across as so likeable, but I agree deep down he is probably quite narcissistic, the bodybuilding, the superficial relationships, using and disposing of multiple girlfriends, the emphasis on lifestyle. I gather Navada has some counties where prostition is legal, not sure why he could'nt have operated from there. He is right when he says the law is ridiculous, legal prostitution is much safer for everyone involved and it can be properly regulated like New Zealand and Germany.
He's a narcissistic P.O.S.!
He is no doubt an abusive piece of shit. That doesn't stop this from being an interesting interview to analyze the reasoning and rhetoric of such a person.
good men are hard to find
His level of narcissism is concerning. He really believe he’s a saviour to these girls.
Westerners and the imaginary terms they come up with! you know in the east and in the most parts of the world we don't have words like Narcissm, etc- your society label's people with such terms to keep them in a certain behviour lane. If you dare to not conform to the powers to be they label you with these imaginary terms they just create to keep you in check.
I think the women are partly to blame for that. I suspect also deep down there is self-loathing. We did not get a lot of it in the interview, but his father sounded violent towards his mother and was probably not great to him either.
He was never taught how to see women as a human being rather an object
I guess, but neither did any of the girls he hired.
But he did not make them do anything
I mean look how his dad treated his mom....not really a surprise.
He could’ve broken that toxic cycle & “taught” himself to be a better person.
What did he do for decades instead?
He enjoyed mistreating people (specifically vulnerable broken girls), at his own free will for dirty money.
Why would anyone?
He certainly romanticizes his life/lifestyle. If you look him up online it tells quite a different version of his story. He's a very good Con man.
@Adrian Guynn
Yes! He's so full of crap and a definite con-man. Most of the comments are about how great a storyteller he is, and what an interesting life he has; people are so dumb - can't even see what's right in front of them.
It's nice to see there are a few people who see through his bull.
He is similar to DONNY TRUMP.
What's the difference in his other story?
@@lisahinton9682 What's difference does he tell in his other story?
@adrianguynn5807 I looked him up online and his arrest article literally corroborates everything he was saying in the interview.
“Long story short” - 60mins later 😂
Lol
Right!!!! He likes hearing himself talk....
I brace myself for an extended story when i hear people tell me that... LOL. Ahh people! ;)
Right!
I gave up 1/2 way through.
Imagine if he put this much effort into a legit business. He would still have his hard earned money. I feel sorry for his ex girlfriend and her child. She didn’t even know his real name.
Lol no he wouldn't. What business model allows you a high product revenue with virtually zero exspenses. 7 days a week. A product that never needs to be replaced or restocked but will always have a constant high demand. I'll lwait
677htg hgbn from a business point of view you are very right. I think he could had been a success and something else, but this is the pay he chose. He comes across like a regular guy in his 50’s with out all the flash of a street pimp.
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@@FrenchSaladMac The product does need to be replaced. Only he doesn't bear the costs. It's after the women are burned out and traumatized that they pay the price. They get depressed, do drugs, or fall into abusive relationships with a "rescuer". He makes all the cash off the woman, while she's the one who bears the cost a business that damages her.
He uses them up and then spits them out. And given that women still dont' get equal pay, are sexually harrassed on the job, and are discriminated against, there's always a fresh face in need of rent or with a dream. He profits of women's oppression, and oppresses them further.
@@realmadamsuzanne Stop. This video proves nothing 🤣
Such an unsavory life. Listening to this makes me want to take a walk in the forest.
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It isn't all like this. Brothels are seedy though.
@@jetaboveclouds ok Doctor lol
@@jetaboveclouds what did he do wrong? He's right that it should be legal, drugs too. I didnt know it was possible to diagnose someone so accurately based off an interview like this. Maybe you're right, but I see a lot of assumptions in these comments
@@jetaboveclouds then what has he done wrong? Surely an evaluation interview would be a lot different to this one here. Is sociopathy even a diagnosis or would it be ASPD.
“I have a zero tolerance policy for drugs”
“More than half of the girls used drugs. You can’t control it.”
“I used to deal coke.”
lol, i noted that too. on top of that the dude used himself by his own admission. he's one of those "I only use crack on the weekends" types lol
I appreciate your ability to just stay in the silence and just let them sit. They more than often continue to talk again unveiling more stories. Good job! And as always, so fascinating! Kepp up the great work!
Could be titled, Portrait of a Narcissist.
Or portrait of a gay. Screaming tendencies
@@KUPHSER 💀
DEFINITELY NARCISSISTIC This man, Uhhggg 🤮
@@sophiajoyceferry7150 Are u a white woman?
@@penguinan2456 Are you a loser? Wait, nevermind, that's obvious.
Roids and shaving cream used heavily in his bathroom.
😂
🤣
👏🏻👏🏻🤣
😂😂😅
A muscle bound pimp with a heart of gold? This guy sounds too good to actually be true.
"Sold coke to get the money for the night clubs" "I'm totally against drugs" Dude, drugs made you.
If he means not using street drugs I know what he meant
“I treat them very well.. I give them 50% of what they make”
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27:18 'girls are expendable, it doesnt matter to the guys'
Cool cool cool 😐
LOL yeah, it sounded really bad. But I guess that's good in that lifestyle seeing how the Pimp interviews they keep saying they take 100% I'm like damn what's the point of the pimp. they do none of the work and take all the money
In that world thats treating them like a princess, most girls get sweet fuck all
Even if girls work online the website takes a cut of the percentages made Its how it works
I am wondering what are industry standards
This is probably the best interview of Machiavellianism I have ever seen. Clicked on the video with half interest, but once I realized what it really was I pulled up a chair and stayed a while. Amazing storytelling.
I don't think he fits the definition of machiavellianism. The definition usually means the person is dangerous and unsympathetic, completely narcissistic.... This guy sort of has ethical standards, I don't think that fits into a cold-hearted narcissist.
@janelleyharris5042 obviously you are not a good judge of character. Definitely machisvellianism
@@aubraehersel7720 calm down. No need to act arrogant and rude. You don't need to reply like that. It's not worth it.
Very fascinating watching a more refined pimp 😂
@janelleyharris5042 I'm sorry you are so confused and easily fooled by this predator. His supposed ethical standards are systems he put in place to sustain his ability to exploit vulnerable young girls with absolutely no empathy . It is absolutely apparent that he is a Narcissist and dangerous.
Wake the f
never trust a guy that uses the phrase, "everybody has a price"
Everyone has
Why not? It’s the truth.
@@jewelsbarbie no
@@GGora u r wrong
He speaks so slowly and clearly that you can put it on 2x speed and have no issues...
As my late daddy would have said, “This guy’s a total pop-in-jay!” Loosely translated-he’s a vain, talkative, thoughtless fool. 🤦♀️
But less honorable?
Yep. It's in the set of the chin, just for one.
@HGB 1 Power is in character, the love of money is a weakness.
totally an asshole, "gilipollas" in Spain.
i woulda liked your daddy
Trafficking people should never be legal.
Because it was in fact.......trafficking!!!
Our criminal justice system rather bust an escort service provocateur, rather than bust high profile child sex traffickers ( who are in politics here and over seas.).
Agree - double standards.
Cops lockn up pimps & sexworkers...but none of the traitersclll
"The girls are expendable" What a great guy.
The 99 percent of adulterous men didn't mind getting different girls. Probably just responded to the demand.
A real nice guy ! yes I feel you
Pretty much how girls see men.
That's just a normal business, All staff are expendable.
@@Ghost-fe1vp exactly. That's the nature of the employee/employer relationship.
Mark, I was gifted an autographed copy of your book for my birthday. Can’t wait to receive it!
I noticed he didn't say nothing about healthcare coverage, and screening for diseases
I thought the same thing
Women making 30k a month can spend 250 a month on their own healthcare lol
@@0110101100011010 forreal if you use condoms all the time its not that dangerous
I thought the same can you imagine some of the girls probably get paid for doing extra on the side.
He's running CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE in which he pays them a healthy annual salary every week. Are you also concerned about the health coverage of drug smugglers, and bookies?
I get the feeling he made up 2/3 of his story; lying about himself and his work is a part of his life, its deeply ingrained in his persona.
Totally agree! My “liar” bells were ringing from the start.
Never trust someone who says they hate liars. It’s always 100% a projection of who they are
He sounds credible. I know someone else and the stories are 90 % same.
What exactly do you think he lied about?? I bet you can't tell me lmao😂
@@MohammedHassan-ht3sm ...Okay, I will give you one. For example, he claims that his girlfriend/fiancee, the dentist, did NOT know about his prostitution business. However, he mentioned that all of those sex apartments were ALL in her name. Wouldn't any normal person wonder, " Why is my boyfriend making me rent theses numerous apartments in my name ?" You don't think that is weird. They both live in a giant multi million dollar home together, and he rents all these apartments under her name.
However, he did the right thing because why should 2 people go down on a charge if 1 person will do. That is why he took the ENTIRE blame.
A really interesting interview. This really meets the qualifications for “Soft white underbelly”. Appreciate the honesty in this conversation.
Hes so personable and such a good story teller that you can imagine how these girls all believed his chat!
yup
He is also a conman. Search his name. Fadi Chaibon. Conned old ladies.
@@3117ism I could tell he's a snake but thts just hittin too low..
Are you joking
Yeah. Selling coke, ripping girls off. what a babe!
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
😂😂
😂😂😂Too funny!!
@@jd-rm4ez hmm. 8600 clients with 12 locations. Pocketing 50k a week... run by 1 man.. yeah sounds legit. Did that for 4 and a half years, over 200 mil in his pocket. Yup...
@@jd-rm4ez Do your parents know that you watched this, old boy?
He moved to the US when he was 3, grew up in an Italian neighborhood in Boston. Still has a Middle Eastern accent?
The girls are expendable...
Most were paying their student loans...
LET....THAT....SINK....IN
I had to let my student loans default because I WASN'T making 6 figures right after graduation, as many led me to believe. I broke my back trying to make the monthly payments for nearly 100K in loans, but it eventually became impossible.
Maybe I should have considered being a prostitute. 🤔
@@cactuscallie5090 Honestly, I now believe that most universities know that many of their students (female and male) are paying their way through school via some kind of on-line "prostitution" and they're perfectly okay with it. Academia is a rather narcissistic environment, sadly (not entirely, but personality pathology is present and overt in some instances).
I think the males WANT to keep it that way because it keeps a steady stream of sugar babies and live cam girls (and boys) on their laptop screens for spank material. Just ick!
I'm sorry you've had such a struggle. So many people struggle paying those loans or default altogether and just give up because they can barely pay rent.
The thought of the women doing this to pay off their student loans really sucks becz at the end of the day she ends up with her husband after all this escorting Nd she will never tell him she needs to take tht to her grave and this doesn't just happen with escorting it happens to celebrities aswel women seem to have to sleep their way to wer they wna be
@@herschellebenting7558 How interesting that the problem (in your mind) is not the fact that was damaging to their physical, mental and spiritual health, but that they may without this information from their spouse.
Your empathy is for the man....and seemingly entirely absent for what the females had to endure to pay off school debt while being able to afford their rent/food/car expenses. smh
That's telling....
Mark. Long time listener. Love your channel.
At first I thought I’ll never get through 59 minutes of this guy. I thought he was completely FOS but after googling him everything changed. What a fascinating story. Incredible. Thanks for another great video Mark.
Great education to listen to. This is excellent to listen to. Wish I was much younger than I am now. Old age is fucked!
Is feels like there is more to the story and that he is fluffing it. I’d love to hear a story from someone who’s worked with/for him
Me 2.
Yes same
@Mimi
I agree! Everyone in this comment section is being snowed! He's absolutely fluffing the factors of his life. People are so gullible. It's good to see at least one person who sees his bullcrap.
Well, he gave such precise descriptions of one or two that they will be completely identifiable unfortunately.
It’s wilder than he’s already revealing!!!! You don’t know if you never been on that dark side of life.
Usually when people say they have a good childhood is because they were taught that they are just being too sensitive etc.... my childhood was fucked up as well but if I tried telling that to my mom she would say "Get over it etc "
my mom loovvvesss to call me sensitive. pisses me off so bad.
My mom is the same way. It breaks my heart & makes me anxious. Sometimes I stop speaking to her for awhile.
@@violamcviolet2222 both of my parents are total disappointments. Boomers smh
What this man did, and where he did it, cannot be done without deep Mafia affiliation.
Actually, that’s a GREAT point. He had those Boston connections
I was thinking the same
He said he’s Armenian right? If I’m remembering correctly then it adds up
@@harry9828 Yup. Plus he grew up in an Italian neighborhood.
He had to be connected or he would never be able to do this stuff
One of the best interviews about this certain topic I have ever come across..........open and honest to a point of course without totally incriminating himself.....
but you really get a understanding of what it is like to run a besiness like this on the scale that he ran it on.....mind blowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just a unbelievable outstanding interview.........
Now you know what a anti social narcissist sounds like.
He says im against drugs but yet he was a coke dealer and enough of one to afford part ownership of a club. Take responsibility man.
Orange County couple accused of operating high-end brothel in Irvine apartments, Los Angeles Times, Feb 3, 2017
"I'm totally against drugs" Oh gosh what a saint you are.
You were probably against prostitution too, until you found out how much you could make.
You can't trust a goddamn word out of this guy's mouth.
"Not gross." Oh believe me, it was gross.
I love how this guy puts his hands together, like he's the Elon Musk of whores.
"It should be legal." Bro, you have the decision making skills of a 4 year old with emotional issues. Do not confuse your ability to run an illegal prostitution ring with wisdom.
I am studying pre-law + working to gain my national paralegal certification with hopes to reform the laws surrounding sex work/workers as a whole, and I must say, of all the podcast/vlogs I have seen/viewed pertaining to the subjects of Sexual assault/abuse ,etc. , these interviews really prove a point of gaining the whole story and understanding not only why sex work is such a vast industry but naming the perpetrators w/o censors and valuing society’s right to know predators(bc most of the time they are protected by our justice system). Thank you for all of the incredible and moving work that you do.
I hope you get to help a people
Be interesting if you researched New Zealand law and social effects as it's legal here.
I don'r understand why men available for sex for money isn't as huge a market as it is with women.
@@wilpri Yes in Japan. It's a culture thing
@@wilpriBecause 1)women don't want sex without attachment or 2) if they did, it's available free. The saying about prostitution is that a man doesn't pay her to stay, he pays her to leave. Men value no strings attached sex, women don't.
" I don't like lies" but lied his butt off to his dentist girlfriend
Narcissists are ALL hypocrites (and just about every bodybuilder is highly narcissistic....and especially those who are obsessed with money and muscles).
@@le_th_ lol sounds like u got played n u mad bout it
@@nonomnismoriar7472 That's your assumption (and an incorrect one at that).
There are nuances in emotional states and feelings, and "mad" isn't a go-to emotion for me. In case you are unaware of core emotions and what they are, anger is a *secondary emotion* that usually masks hurt.
Now, if you want to know why I feel disgusted by this man's self-absorption and exploitation of vulnerable women, you would likely need a well-calibrated moral compass and something called empathy.
I'm guessing you lack both.
@@derex47 Incorrect.
I have a well-calibrated moral compass and something called empathy for others.
I don't expect you would understand what any of that means, so don't strain yourself.
This part made me laugh!!
I was in the game in Vegas for three years and while I never worked for Fadi, I knew two girls who did. They said he was a decent guy but not as benevolent to his girls as he claims here. No violence or any street pimp bs but he could be tyrannical and intimidating when it suited him and he certainly didn't do a 50/50 split.
How you you reflect back on having been on the game for 3 years? Do you regret it?
@@Charlie_Ses I regret staying in it longer than I should have. You get addicted to easy money and it's hard to get out when you don't have anything to go to. But other than that, no, I don't regret it all.
@beverly ducharme Wow. As a man it seems a crazy way to make a living, men physically couldn't do it so it seems impossible. I never understand how women can do that work and not mind it (some of them). I hope you are making a good life for yourself afterwards anyway, gl.
@@Charlie_Ses There are men who do it but it's different for women. It's rough if you're a girl on the street pulling eight or ten tricks a night but I seldom did more than 10 dates a week if that because the agency I worked for was top end and paid well (not as well as Fadi tho). Still, it required some dissociation and over time that's not healthy. I'm married now and run a small but thriving (and boringly legal--lol--) online business with my husband. Live is good, thanks for asking.
Lies
A quick google search on this guy brings up a ton of complaints from people who he's scammed throughout the years. Not a good guy.
Not surprised at all. What douche!!
whats his full name
resistance militia Fadi Chaiban
Fadi Chaiban
Wowww
My B.S. Meter is ringing off the hook!! For me it is bc he keeps saying how nice he was to the ladies.. Like letting them only work a year or so. Ha he did that to keep the fresh meat coming for the johns. I read a comment below that 2 woman who worked for him said - there was no violence or any street pimp bs but he could be tyrannical and intimidating when it suited him and he certainly didn't do a 50/50 split. What about the woman who needed money to pay for her mothers health bills. He said he knew the work wasn't for her bc she was sad. Ya bc her mom is dying and him bragging constantly about his millions , He couldn't spare some money in a month to help her out? Really?
excellent journalism on the invisible and forgotten of society......even the predators. 🐍
Yes! Common denominator of abuse and neglect in childhood for all 3.
good one Mark, these ones are interesting.
I agree 👍
M R are you serious? He freaking hire the hell out of me
huh?
Freddy, I can only commend you for verifying these girls were adults. And I'm glad you can recognize these girls in pain. But in reality most girls would never sell their bodies if they weren't in some kind of pain.
Thats not necessarily true
And most professional fighters would not be fighters if they were not in pain. So what. They are adults making a choice to go into an industry where it is clear what they will be doing for money.
Not true at all. Sex work is the oldest profession in the world. Many women do it because sex sells and well it’s good money. If someone can do what they like and are comfortable doing for more in a day then they would make in a week at a job they hate…. They are going to do it.
Most women will sell their body to feed their children.. That's not pain.. That's survival
@@MkhuseliMazungulaPoli1905 it could be your daughter too, would u want it?!
His comment that love and sex can be separated...unfortunately that’s the reality of how it has been distorted. He says a man can have sex with an escort and go home and love his wife? No. No, actually he’s doing the exact opposite of love - true love, that is. He’s breaking his vows, he’s being unfaithful, he’s gratifying only himself, he’s engaging in betrayal and lies. That’s not love.
Naw men know how to seParate them….
"As a friend and a co-worker" -what a load of crap. The business principles and hustle mentality of these people is crazy but the story's are cinematic as unfortunate as they are
"I have no drug tolerance"... "when I was selling coke, that's how I could afford the night clubs"
You don't get high on your own supply!
Brothels/prostitutes prevent a lot of rapes and molestations, + mitigates a lot of male suffering as well. That this is something that is still illegal is pure evil imposed upon humanity by people who are clueless, sitting in their ivory towers of misguided 'moral superiority'.
I think there will always be something inevitably unhappy about prostitution, because I just can't believe anyone truly wants to get ****ed by strangers every day for a living. (Yes, I have seen documentaries where prostitutes claim they love their work, but I don't buy it.) That being said, it should be legalized and regulated. I couldn't agree more about the judgmental, self-righteous attitudes about it.
100% agree.
This guy is who all the street pimps on Figueroa think they are. He actually made huge steady money based on legit business models.
Thank you Johnathan, I appreciate you...thanks for watching..stay healthy, happy and safe
He's a sleeze. He's educated and could have got into any kind of business.
Ohshit thank you,you just made the example of the pumps I come across where I'm from,I'll admit not all of them but 9.99/10
@@peekaboots01 He said at one point he tried to do those legal businesses but they werent for him
If this guy was having so much legal problems with the feds why would he spill his guts here?
Exactly. What a doofus 🤣
Granted immunity, he's an informant.
@@nicbtw6062 idiots...I already did my time ...before you start typing unsubstantiated BS...do your homework...doofus, informant..those are serious accusations...obviously, you all are inexperienced and oblivious to the legal system.. I'm an informant this is wgy I received more time than anyone else in the upscale escort agency business? and forfeited all my money??(10 mil).how do you like all the name calling////???
Cuz cocaine
Cus he already spilled his guts to the feds
Couldn't imagine how many lives he's helped ruin.
This is a fascinating story, but it reinforces a longheld belief I've always had: be happy with what you have. It also reinforces another perception I've had for years: people committing crimes get caught because they are never satisfied with what they have. Usually, they get caught and lose it all.
I couldn’t agree more! The company you keep in life really counts.
@Keefe Borden
That's an excellent point. People committing crimes... it's often more than having criminal proclivities. But what is a crime is another discussion.
True! And true! 🙂
I’m very content with my middle class life. I have a beautiful river-front apartment downtown. I work from home, go out once or twice a week for brunch or dinner, take my dog for walks on the belt-line, visit the farmers market, go out for live music, attend a great church on Sundays, and travel throughout the year. I don’t spend excessively, have $0 debt, and live within my budget.
I’m happy with what I have because I know what it’s like to be without. I don’t have to look over my shoulder constantly for enemies or the feds lol. You can’t buy this level of peace. I plan to retire in my 40’s and go back to living abroad. You can have a nice life when you live within your means.
Gratitude & ambition aren't mutually exclusive, one can be thankful for what they currently have & simultaneously strive towards accomplishing greater goals...that's quite natural...the problem here is that what he was doing was illegal & living a double life, etc.
I think he left a few facts out here and there. LOL
One of my lecturers said: "We all have a patchy conscience". Meaning, that we all have gaps, inconsistencies and sometimes even contradictory morals in some or many areas. This interviewee epitomizes this idea. He says he had a normal or (did he say 'great'?) childhood. And yet he left home at 13 due to a father who was abusing his mother. I am sure that abuse must have started years earlier and maybe worsened at that stage. This would account for why he uses women as merchandise. A father who modeled that women are not worthy for their intellect, or anything else besides servitude would mean that a male child would have this imprinted on his brain. He seems quite proud of how he took care of small details like the decor, cleanliness, recruitment etc and paid them well, as if he truly cared. He did care about selling good merchandise. It was good for business. Did he take a little more care than most others? Probably. And yet he recognizes that what he was using the women for was 'damaging to them after a year'. Or that they could only handle ten men a day for up to a year. And yet he still engaged in the business. He also recognized that the clientele were mostly sex addicts. He was a dealer in addiction - as he also recognized - in the addiction to money. But I think it is great that he is revealing the truth. That he is telling the world that people we expect to have a little higher moral compass like doctors and lawyers, numbered in their hundreds in their regular use of prostitutes. There is also a myth that he busts here. It appears that not one of the women said that they want to do this because they love sex. I know many men who believe that women go into prostitution because they enjoy sex. I have never met one woman or one prostitute who said she did it for the sex. And then here is another huge moral contradiction: , "You cannot be a family man and sell p***y all day, but I kept 18 girls". Thats logical!. And "why should I give you the list (of clientele)for something that should be legal". Well there you go. Men treating women as p****y merchandise should be legal in his view. But it gets worse when he talks about the twins. "I sold them as a set of twins". I guess the journey to when people understand what exploitation and abuse is, will take a long, long time. And yet, then he sounds like he really respected his girlfriend - apart from telling her a false name and lying about his entire life that is. And then more - it never ends! The next one was: "It is natural, men want to procreate - they love their wives and just want sex. Some women want it too. This one I knew was a nymphomanic" Okey, so men who are promiscuous and not only would have sex for free but even pay huge sums of money for it do not get a derogatory name, but women who are happy to do it for free get a derogatory name? Astonishing. However, Mark, you are amazing for encouraging these people to speak and speak so openly. Well done indeed. What an interesting mix of people. Please keep up the good work.
This describes 99.99 percent of people, i have never met a single person in my life that had consistent morals, even in this comment section that phenomena can be seen.
I caught that little detail too about his parents. Made me wonder what "Ideal" childhood he had... There is a reason or many reasons this is the oldest profession in the world. Girls also worked for 10 times or more $ they would earn in a "normal" job and that is the lure. As a matter of fact the first girl probably earned as much in that first night than she would earn in a year working at the bar (back then) - So like he says - he got hooked on the money. And so did the girls
@@yedoru4448 one issue is if someone did, the consistency would lead to some postions that would be confusing or irritating to society.
@@RojPoj you could say that again
@@firstlast9916 The irony of that, is that we have created a world where the women (and some men) who engage in sex work have all suffered from ACES, truama and abuse. When we create positive parenting households and supportive childhoods, no woman would be willing to engage in sex work legal or not.
One of the best interviews you've done!
2 guys from the DA's office as Clients and he does not know how the information got to the DA.
I have to give props to these interviewers finding characters out of the movie like these... how? Wowww
Now imagine the list Jeffrey Epstein had...
Holy smokes your right if you think abwt it this dude dnt really have big big famous friends bt Jef has big hitters as friends tht could pay top dolla like real top dolla for discreteness. Aswell fuck this is a scary world we live in
Elliot Spitzer
This guys as wholesome as a brothel owner can be haha
Gross
He’s not wholesome. You would be a perfect mark for a silver tongued conman.
He is such a good story teller. Fascinating interview.