The Great Transformation [Part 4] - The

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  • @Igneshto
    @Igneshto Год назад +137

    Can we get like 15 more parts??? 😅
    All of this is amazing, really gives a great lens to see the world by.... A good antidote to 99% of what's said in the lamestream media.

  • @netional5154
    @netional5154 9 месяцев назад +3

    Just did a quick calculation for my country the Netherlands.
    Total land area is 3,3 million acres of which 25% is being used by the dairy farmers.
    So I guess in the coming years we have more than enough space to build houses or create extra nature.
    There is currently a heated debate regarding the nitrogen deposits of the farmers which are damaging biodiversity in nature areas. I never heard precision fermentation being proposed as a solution: apparently it is still under the radar.

    • @Fireinthesky67
      @Fireinthesky67 9 месяцев назад

      I think people from countries having a tradition of producing cheese will stick to milk from cows. In this specific area, milk is not only a question of raw material, but mainly a question of "terroir".

    • @netional5154
      @netional5154 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Fireinthesky67 Many people will go for the cheapest option if it doesn't negatively affect taste (or for a minority: health).

  • @seth.heerschap
    @seth.heerschap Год назад +7

    I disagree, there's other forces at play that you aren't taking into account. The first generation of these fake meats are incredibly unhealthy compared to meat. The proteins aren't high quality protein, the fats are inflammatory omega-6 fats and there are far less nutrients as compared with meat.
    The development of ultra-processed foods is causing a health crisis. Ever since the first developments of synthetic fats and the removal of nutrients in our foods the world is receiving far more chronic diseases such as heart disease and arthritis. Obesity is at such bad levels that it is now completely normalized. It's the reason the life expectancy in the USA, Mexico has been declining for the past 10-15 years despite us consuming far less sugar and exercising more.
    Unless we can synthesize molecules that are identical to that in highly nutritious foods, I think this will take far longer than you think.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj Год назад

      I would not write how we can make it better, use own brain, not only look for problems.
      I would say that your arguments didn't stop use too much sugar, alkohole and cigarettes, and many more not healthy stuff, so why you think it would stop this?

  • @PapiBocaChula
    @PapiBocaChula Год назад +13

    @6:90 yes they went from Cane. To high fructose corn syrup to aspartame. Which is worst for us and our bodies ability to regulate our own sugar in our system. Its reckless and careless of them and the "consumer"

  • @joshuaportinga187
    @joshuaportinga187 7 месяцев назад +6

    I’m skeptical of synthetic food disruption. There will be a public backlash where people don’t trust synthetically grown food. I agree with the other disruptions Tony lectures about… but not food.

    • @MrDael01
      @MrDael01 27 дней назад

      People also didn't trust smelly and noisy automobiles at first, but as soon as they saw the upsides they wanted one.

  • @NickPeitsch
    @NickPeitsch Год назад +5

    Which are some publicly-traded PF companies to invest in today?

  • @commandersprocket
    @commandersprocket Год назад +9

    I think it’s important for people to realize that proteins are not just food. The keratin in your hair is the same protein that is found in animal horns. Imagine that we can have low cost 3d printable animal horn, the material not the shape. We could build anything made of wood out of keratin or chitin and 3-D print it. We’re not there yet, in 2019 MIT printed a large sculpture made from chitin. That was extraordinarily laborious, but with a few generations of innovation it will no longer be, this will probably take 5 to 8 years. The big change here is going to be in land usage. Overtime the inputs to these precision fermentation factories will come directly or indirectly from algae ponds which can double in algae volume every day. This will be so much faster than traditional agriculture that it’s almost unthinkable. We are at the cusp of so much radical change that it makes sense for society to be as disrupted as it currently is. The next decade is going to make the last two decades look slow in comparison.

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton Год назад +14

    The best part of these lectures is the vision of the future where life is going to be better. Seems like every other thing I watch is about how the world is going to hell and there doesn't seem to be any will or possibility of it getting better.

    • @DanWrench
      @DanWrench 5 дней назад

      Unless you are a livestock farmer... It's going to be a painful transition in many ways

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine Год назад +40

    People in the future will think it’s weird that we used to eat animals

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd Год назад +2

      Yes, pass me my lentil and canola oil burger that is dyed with beets to look like meat. I approve of our soy future.

    • @jazzysamba
      @jazzysamba Год назад +7

      Yes, future humans will think it not only weird that we ate real animals but how horrifically cruel it was.

    • @wotireckon
      @wotireckon Год назад +1

      @@jazzysamba Absolutely!

    • @michaelbisceglia9154
      @michaelbisceglia9154 4 месяца назад +2

      We are primitive

    • @TheQsam1
      @TheQsam1 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@-whackdYou didn't watch the video?

  • @digitalbladeca
    @digitalbladeca Год назад +42

    Tony Seba, you are a visionary! Please keep treating us with more episodes! Most of us don't get blessed with this insight but we want to stay curious!

  • @bobwallace9753
    @bobwallace9753 Год назад +4

    Disruption of meat and dairy probably means something good for climate change. Huge amounts of land now used for grazing and cattle feed will be allowed to return to forest and prairie grass which will capture and sequester carbon.
    Plus all the carbon not pumped out by the process of growing and turning animals into food/milk.

    • @netional5154
      @netional5154 9 месяцев назад +2

      And methane as well.

  • @sk.n.9302
    @sk.n.9302 Год назад +27

    Listened to Tony's previous Precision Fermentation presentation a couple of years ago, thrilled to hear this update! Investors & mainstream media still remain pretty much unaware.

  • @daniel_960_
    @daniel_960_ Год назад +4

    6:30 probably one of the worst things that happened to Americans health

  • @gw7388
    @gw7388 Год назад +5

    Plenty of food for thought, apologies.

  • @ruialex7745
    @ruialex7745 Год назад +12

    Mind-blowing!! Love it! Being a professional in "the current" animal production sector, I am concerned!! But no doubts about @Tony Seba words. It will happen!! Looking for the new opportunities that will bear from such protein transition! Exciting times ahead!!

  • @sarahadams7779
    @sarahadams7779 Год назад +89

    I live in New Zealand which is a very heavy producer of milk and meat which is exported to the rest of the world. This will send shock waves through the farming communities here. I suspect though that Fontera would deny it is an issue as we produce a high quality, in demand product. I fear this could be the agricultural “Kodak” moment.

    • @tasd5673
      @tasd5673 Год назад

      Aussie here our governments and media have brainwashed most people to think they are the “source” of what’s happening it’s not true.
      Prepare your fellow humans

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd Год назад +9

      I will probably continue eating grass fed ruminants rather than dried lentils mixed with canola oil and dyed with beetroot to look like meat.

    • @desmondtiedemann7714
      @desmondtiedemann7714 Год назад +23

      Kia Kaha Kiwi, Maybe we will get our rivers and streams back when Fontera pivots to Precision Fermentation and we meet our CO2 emission target. Yeah definitely disruptive for New Zealand economy given we are the land of milk and honey.

    • @turningpoint4238
      @turningpoint4238 Год назад +10

      @@-whackd I will still probably enjoy a steak occasionally, but honestly most of the meat I eat will be replaced and be more enjoyable and better for me for it.

    • @CyberSQUID9000
      @CyberSQUID9000 Год назад +12

      Fonterra have done nothing to mitigate the industry changes. Milk Solids from precision fermentation are already displacing NZ milk. Another 5 years it will be impossible for dairy to compete with industry scale costs.

  • @richardteychenne3950
    @richardteychenne3950 Год назад +12

    Eye opening as always Tony. Building from your previously published work in so many ways. I am finding traction talking to people about how dramatic disruption will be and having to balance with positive aspects to prevent the 'Luddite shock' effect. There needs to be a positive message to prevent the fudsters promoting a false narrative which destabilises civilisation!

  • @ShahryarSaigol
    @ShahryarSaigol 8 месяцев назад +2

    This means countries like Pakistan which import 90% of their edible oil can switch to PF Ghee and pay off their entire foreign debt from the savings.

  • @jhunt5578
    @jhunt5578 Год назад +46

    Can't come soon enough animal ag is incredibly destructive to the environment and factory farms and slaughterhouses are grotesque.

    • @shepherdsknoll
      @shepherdsknoll Год назад +8

      In California agriculture consumes 80 % of the state’s water. Human consumption is 20%. The number one water consuming crop is alfalfa that is fed to livestock, primarily cows. Here’s the kicker- agriculture accounts for only 3% of California’s GDP !

    • @chrisjones6736
      @chrisjones6736 Год назад

      Some animal agriculture. How does a Bison look in the environment compared to a cow?

    • @jhunt5578
      @jhunt5578 Год назад +2

      @@chrisjones6736 Bisons are still bovines and are still ruminants. They needs tons of land and water and they release methane a very potent GHG.

    • @elijahizere
      @elijahizere Год назад +5

      Imagine not subtracting green water calculations and not subtracting urination from these consumption calculations
      Does the water just vanish into another dimension when the cows drink water? This is what these calculations assume

    • @shepherdsknoll
      @shepherdsknoll Год назад

      @@elijahizere , it won’t make any difference, big disruption in dairy ruclips.net/video/g6gZHbfK8Vo/видео.html

  • @brucec954
    @brucec954 Год назад +4

    Interesting topic you don't hear about much. One thing to be careful of though is many biological processes are a lot more complex than they appear. Babies have been fed a simple formula for a long time, but it turns out that mother's milk has antibiotics that help the babies' immune system that formula doesn't have as one example.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj Год назад +1

      So we learn more thanks to this. But I don't think that most people eat burgers because they are good for your health ;)

  • @markjones6873
    @markjones6873 Год назад +6

    I think about how the UK countryside is mostly designed by sheep and cows. Farmers are going to have to change what they do. This has massive implications. This disruption needs careful implementation. Massive changes !

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj Год назад

      While Industrial Revolution did go to factories and destroy machine (and it was in UK), but I don't think they would do same in our century, but I think impact will be similar.
      But I don't think that where are people which think that having one clothes for whole life is better, than what we have today.

  • @karlbloss
    @karlbloss Год назад +8

    Fascinating! I'm wondering what the raw materials of precision fermentation are? You can't make something from nothing, so what are you feeding those microorganisms as their building blocks? Sugar? From what source?

    • @babyblair2010
      @babyblair2010 Год назад +2

      Thank you for this observation. That’s been one of my main concerns with Tony Sheba’s presentations. He never mention raw materials. He presentations on solar, EV and batteries never mention raw materials.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj Год назад +2

      @@babyblair2010 and because this, he was wrong 10 years ago? It is same as saying that batteries will not be recycle because we don't do it today.... yeah, today. Same with materials for solar or batteries (EV don't have any special over ICEV) they change with time, as sodium batteries are not using cobalt or lithium, so looking at today materials is not best method.
      And as @Galven mention they are same what we feed today, and they are not problem, because what we change is only how efficient is converting from one state to another, not what is source.
      As batteries can be at most completely recycled, same with water (Singapur is doing it already, or on space station), so why not food. Because most what is need for life is energy, and specific elements are only needed to do conversion.

  • @MarkGast
    @MarkGast Год назад +3

    Cool, I in the future I can have a spider meat sandwich and a lemur milk shake. The future is gonna be weird.

  • @anandsub1478
    @anandsub1478 Год назад +4

    Hope this disruption will end the large scale destruction we carry out towards diff kinds of land and sea life

  • @OrgChromer
    @OrgChromer Год назад +7

    Lots of implications for food security here. This will be an interesting policy space in the future.

  • @Yoorae21
    @Yoorae21 Год назад +13

    Thank you Tony Seba!

  • @mfpears
    @mfpears Год назад +5

    What about the healthy bacteria we get from some of these foods? Maybe mixing it with the real stuff can help with that

    • @mfpears
      @mfpears Год назад

      @@markplott4820 nice reply. Find a comment it's relevant to

  • @anthonynicoli
    @anthonynicoli Год назад +2

    Ok Tony. If insulin is so cheap to make, why is it so expensive for its consumers? How is your vaunted fermentation disruption actually helping us in the trenches?
    There’s a problem somewhere in the supply chain, dude.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj Год назад

      Monopoly. This is reason why insulin is so expensive in USA.

  • @liltunafish1471
    @liltunafish1471 Год назад +9

    What a treat today! Pls keep sending us more parts!

  • @rogerstarkey5390
    @rogerstarkey5390 Год назад +6

    Mind blown every time since 2015

  • @MarkLLawrence
    @MarkLLawrence Год назад +6

    His talks, if you listen, tell you what you should be divesting from now. Also he's been right on what to invest in.

  • @KristianBergen
    @KristianBergen Год назад +6

    Please make another indicator protfolio for each part - like you did before!

  • @maxcarter970
    @maxcarter970 Год назад +8

    The technology is very interesting, but a large percentage of the population will stick to the real thing for the same reasons we avoid sugar, artifical sweeteners and processsed foods in general.

    • @TheQsam1
      @TheQsam1 4 месяца назад +2

      What is large? You think most don't eat processed food?

    • @walterrudich2175
      @walterrudich2175 4 месяца назад

      At least I don’t

  • @paulkoop7042
    @paulkoop7042 Год назад +6

    There is nothing more profound happening on the planet. Thank you, once again, Mr. Seba!!

  • @BoyanDobrev
    @BoyanDobrev Год назад +10

    Fantastic video as always Tony, thank you!!! One question: when will the incredibly outdated and impractical imperial system be disrupted by the far superior metric system? 🙂 maybe you can lead the way with future videos and no longer use lbs!

    • @riley_oneill
      @riley_oneill Год назад

      The imperial system has survived the metric system, it will never die! Long live degrees Fahrenheit!

    • @tonyseba
      @tonyseba  Год назад +4

      NB: I use both, kilos and pounds.

    • @gazlives
      @gazlives Год назад

      as long as USA survives the imperial system will remain.

    • @MartinKaufmann007
      @MartinKaufmann007 Год назад +1

      No more acres please. We have square meters.

    • @Sander-zj3wi
      @Sander-zj3wi Год назад +5

      There are two types of countries. Those who use the metric system and one that landed on the moon using the metric system.😂

  • @skeptic4031
    @skeptic4031 Год назад +6

    This man is a FREAKING GENIUS !! Love his talks, have been his biggest fan since 2016. He has been spot on about EVs, FSD and Solar Energy way way before anyone was even thinking about it.

    • @iyla_18
      @iyla_18 11 месяцев назад +1

      He seems way behind on this one though. I hope not, but compared to the chart at the end of this talk, current adoption is much lower.

    • @guyswiggins
      @guyswiggins 8 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@iyla_18agree

  • @HepCatJack
    @HepCatJack Год назад +1

    Shouldn't they be replicating human milk instead ?

  • @yahalomu27
    @yahalomu27 Год назад +4

    Disrupting the cow!🐄

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 Год назад +1

      Time to moooove over?
      .
      I'll get my coat

    • @4literv6
      @4literv6 Год назад

      @@rogerstarkey5390 that joke was udderly necessary, off the hoof and will age like good leather. Yes I milked that for all it was worth. 😀

    • @yokemonkey
      @yokemonkey Год назад

      Money Money Money Money Money Money 😂

  • @davestagner
    @davestagner 11 месяцев назад +9

    Looking at Remilk’s website right now, they say their process emits 97% less greenhouse gases, uses 1% of the land, 4% of the feedstock (important!), and 10% of the water compared to using cows for dairy. The number that really gets me here is the feedstock. Feeding the cows is the biggest expense in dairy/beef production. This means that Remilk’s process (and equivalent processes) could be FAR cheaper than using cows. Reducing greenhouse gases, land and water use, that’s just bonus. And 4% of the feedstock means 4% of the land use at the feed end, so this could allow us to rewild tremendous amounts of land, improving biodiversity and the world we live in.

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd 6 месяцев назад +1

      It won't allow the rewinding of anything. The cows eat corn and soy stalks, stems, cobs, and leaves. They eat recycled products from plant agriculture.

    • @TheQsam1
      @TheQsam1 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@-whackdwhat? You didn't see the 4% number did you?

  • @teamjg277
    @teamjg277 Год назад +4

    I wish we could tip/leave thanks on your presentations. Keep up the great work

  • @-whackd
    @-whackd 6 месяцев назад +1

    Tony Seba was wrong. He said there would be a beef product with price parity in 2024. There is not one beef product on the market. I would love for anyone to link me to a precision fermentation company making beef protein and let me know their costs.

    • @beehappy7797
      @beehappy7797 4 месяца назад

      According to the media, the crisis in meat and milk production has already started.

  • @KJSvitko
    @KJSvitko Год назад +4

    Sure seems like Health Insurance Companies and Medicare would be receptive to a Whole Food Plant Based vegan message.
    It would save them money on health care costs. This could off set the lobbying by food manufacturers.
    Maybe educating health Insurance Companies and Medicare administrators should be a priority.

  • @IanGarside
    @IanGarside Год назад +2

    Thank goodness that we have RUclips so we have universal access to this type of high quality content. Years ago this would have been relegated to an Open university tv programme show after midnight on a Tuesday evening watched by a handful of people. I’m heavily invested in this future tech so have a vested interest in its success. I’m also strongly against the animal agriculture industry so it can’t come soon enough for me.

  • @maryhadda8420
    @maryhadda8420 Год назад +1

    FWIW, I tried that Impossible meat. Once. I thought it was yucky. Definitely had some meaty taste, but it was still yucky. It's going nowhere unless/until it improves. Growing animal muscle cells in a dish might work better.

  • @enerjohnsavior3227
    @enerjohnsavior3227 Год назад +1

    Great! There are a lot of things we need to fix by 2035. Like phytoplankton; the main source of oxygen in Earth's atmosphere...

  • @michaelfelder2640
    @michaelfelder2640 12 дней назад

    A side not, a thought
    A burger is a burger. Meat, chewing, wiping the catsup off your beard...
    I love choice. What if they market these lab-grown, nutritionally equivalent options in Pill form or from a Star Trek replicator, served to you by a humanoid robot.
    Might work?????

  • @grimaffiliations3671
    @grimaffiliations3671 Год назад +1

    AI will only make this happen sooner

  • @benlamprecht6414
    @benlamprecht6414 Год назад +3

    Thanks for yet another excellent video

  • @AkweliParker
    @AkweliParker Год назад +4

    More Tony?! HELL YEAH!!!

  • @billthebuilder1579
    @billthebuilder1579 Год назад +5

    Excited for the future. I am participating in this future with my 2021 Tesla Model Y. Looking forward to the costs dropping and longer range so that EV transition accelerates. I won't miss dairy farms either. Nothing nostalgic doubt animal husbandry.

  • @cahaerri
    @cahaerri Год назад +17

    This presentation was very, very interesting. So the whole dairy chain it's about to collapse... Being a Swiss, this concerns me a lot 🧀🧀Thank you.
    PS: Do you plan on presenting the disruption about home construction as well ?

    • @gzcwnk
      @gzcwnk Год назад +4

      and here in NZ, but its too impactful to keep doing as is.

    • @projekt5219
      @projekt5219 Год назад +3

      If I'm not mistaken, one of the founders of Air B&B is now on the board of Tesla. Tesla may take over housing also. And with the new Twitter and payment through there... SpaceX and being able to be across the planet within 30 minutes.... real estate prices dropping due to parking lots being torn up because nobody owns a car. This is the great reset. It's cheaper to own nothing and roam the planet as a nomad. Pay maybe $500USD/yr for transport... $500/yr for housing... $500/yr for internet access... $500/yr for food. The real question is ... when does the cost of high quality education drop and we start pumping out engineers as fast as Tesla is pumping out batteries? Actually, I think AI will take that over.
      Edit: Didn't even consider the drop in land prices due to lack of farming and animal ag collapsing, along with parking lots being torn up. I think we'll have to let most of it regreen/permaculture and the rest go to housing.

    • @markedwards4879
      @markedwards4879 Год назад +1

      @@projekt5219 just the materials and labour cost in housing make $500 per year a pipe dream. Housing is expensive where people want to live, and most people actually want to live where there are facilities, entertainment, healthcare etc. Thats why cities are generally more expensive- more demand. Yes, prices drop as people can do a lot of work somewhere else- but don’t underestimate how many people like living in cities.

    • @AlphaCrucis
      @AlphaCrucis Год назад

      @@markedwards4879 I have some thoughts. What if the cost of labor also crashes due to technologies such as robots, and then (in concordance with abundance of energy) new "cities" could spring up. Of course, high demand land such as coastlines could/would still be expensive, but it seems at least conceivable that those prices could happen elsewhere.

    • @markedwards4879
      @markedwards4879 Год назад

      @@AlphaCrucis unlikely. Have a look at how much a simple house costs even in countries with very cheap labour etc. I agree that things will get cheaper - especially with robots in the workforce - but a cost of $500pa would mean that the actual cost of house, land, utilities and everything else is under $20k, and that someone would make it available for rental for pretty well zero return.

  • @Deveonn
    @Deveonn Год назад +2

    Suger isn’t just measured on sweetness, the tasting experience is way more complex in duration of sweetness. That’s why none of the artificial sweeteners has been able to reproduce it exactly, while they are much sweeter.

    • @Deveonn
      @Deveonn Год назад

      @@yomanyo327 after 40 years.. yes.

  • @katherandefy
    @katherandefy 4 месяца назад

    I hope someone is already inventing and perfecting food replicators for work, home, wherever. Food at the right temperature, texture and form in a short order. Because cooking is not only somewhat dangerous (like my coworker who went home to find her house burned down), but also unhealthy and expensive.

  • @orangecoloredglasses6941
    @orangecoloredglasses6941 Год назад +1

    Do you know what substances will be fermented?

  • @jeremysunflo5540
    @jeremysunflo5540 Год назад +2

    So what is the source matter that ends up as food? In other words what is the input that creates the output. Is this still agriculturally grown crops that use gmo microorganisms to convert to customized proteins?

    • @SportPlusDad
      @SportPlusDad Год назад +1

      Exactly. In other words, setting meat and dairy “industries” aside, what happens to farms and farmers? Is farmland just repurposed to crops that feed the new industries or are they getting disrupted too?

    • @-whackd
      @-whackd Год назад +1

      Well, The Impossible Burger is made out of dried lentils and and industrially processed seed oils (canola). We do monocrop farming with these inputs and spray them with a lot of round up which destroys the soil. So maybe we will need more of these monocrop GMO grain and seed growers to make our fake meats.

    • @jankonietzko
      @jankonietzko Год назад +2

      Lots of land freed up for other purposes, for example reforestation which could provide a sustainable and abundant (cheap) source of wood ans a carbon stock for housing, and have massive co-benefits for fresh air, water cycles and others.

  • @cleanthinking
    @cleanthinking Год назад +5

    Can't wait!

  • @guyswiggins
    @guyswiggins 8 месяцев назад

    Amyris was one of the first companies in the PF space and recently built one of the largest fermentation farms in the world in Brazil. It went broke and is in bankruptcy right now. This is in spite of hundreds of millions in investment from John Doerr. It takes years to build these plants as I know from owning Amyris. Gingko is also another company in that space and is a penny stock. I think this revolution is coming but I see it taking much longer than he models unless the US government provides IRA like incentives. It’s a chicken and egg problem and we need years to build out the plants.

  • @chrisjones6736
    @chrisjones6736 7 месяцев назад

    a sure fire recipe for even more corporate control of the food system. I fear he is right, I pray he is wrong. Not that there isn't a huge amount wrong with the meat industry (well, the farming industry of the global North full stop). But more corporate control is NOT going to make anything better for anyone.

  • @Midori_Hoshi
    @Midori_Hoshi Год назад

    This is what we desperately need to combat climate change! Having children is by far the biggest negative contributor to climate change, but the second biggest is animal agriculture. Even if your average moron continues to be ignorant on climate change, they will eventually switch to animal-free products simply because they will be cheaper. Their many children will also make the switch.

  • @eliwhitley1878
    @eliwhitley1878 Месяц назад

    Starving people for your ideology is crappy human behavior.

  • @michaels6331
    @michaels6331 Год назад

    Eliminate dairy farms is the right move, however this will need to be done with cost efficient meat production. When a dairy cow is past its prime in milk production that animal is sold to discount meat producers. McDonald's, taco bell, dog food, and every other second grade meat products will go up in price, without the cheap dairy meat.

  • @andymcgregor3924
    @andymcgregor3924 Год назад

    I still don’t understand what is put into the precision fermentation process by way of “feed stock” to make the proteins for milk. Can someone tell me please?

  • @BobBinghamNZ
    @BobBinghamNZ 3 месяца назад

    If a dairy farmer cant sell hid old cows for burgers and mince meat a big part of their income disapears.

  • @nodivisions
    @nodivisions Год назад +4

    Guess what happens when you have no more cows? You have no more soil. Thus no more real food, period.
    People who want this frankenfood won't care about that. But the contingent of people who want to eat real food is large enough that we can hopefully avoid the catastrophe that is brewing here.

  • @heinuchung8680
    @heinuchung8680 Год назад +1

    Why can’t we watch the entire thing?

  • @peterdollins3610
    @peterdollins3610 4 месяца назад

    I don't see PF milk or cheese or meat in my Coop nor my not too far away Waitrose. It needs a bit of speed.

  • @Withnail1969
    @Withnail1969 9 месяцев назад

    As far as I heard insulin for diabetics is still produced from animals, not precision fermentation.

  • @mahendrashah2881
    @mahendrashah2881 Год назад +3

    A brilliant expose of PF Milk and Diary.....with an amazing potential to contribute to food security....especially infants and children in developing countries...and even significantly reducing methane emissions...time is now to spread this disruptive technology worldwide.....but caution that the price needs to be affordable for the poor, unlike insulin which today is unaffordable, for example some in USA having to travel to Canada to buy "cheaper" their essential insulin.....Thank you Tony Seba 🙏🙏🙏

    • @GntlTch
      @GntlTch Год назад +4

      Unfortunately, the cost of insulin in the US is not based on manufacturing cost but on monopolistic market practices enabled by the FDA.

    • @ManiacRacing
      @ManiacRacing 4 месяца назад

      @@GntlTch Now take a look at our current food industry. Greed will ruin this just like everything else.

  • @fjalics
    @fjalics Год назад

    What about precision fat? Butter, olive oil, avacado oil. Bacon.

  • @luismiguelcandanedoibarra5810
    @luismiguelcandanedoibarra5810 Год назад +2

    Amazing! Thanks for sharing

  • @TheDoughGetta
    @TheDoughGetta 4 месяца назад

    When they start making PF Wagu Ribeye steak I am 100% in

  • @tyronemcgillick
    @tyronemcgillick Год назад +1

    SMR will be onto this

  • @LewdCustomer
    @LewdCustomer Год назад +2

    This disruption will not take place and should not. Getting rid of heritage foods is unhealthy and thus stupid.

  • @Krasbin
    @Krasbin Год назад +4

    I think it is a fascinating technology, and of great potential value. But I think we have to be cautious, as with any new technology. With great power comes great responsibility.
    Consider all the micronutrients and other things that could be beneficial to us, inside the naturally produced foods?
    For example, if you only take the protein in milk as relevant, you lose out on the health effects (both benefits and costs) of the other nutrients in natural milk.

    • @turningpoint4238
      @turningpoint4238 Год назад +2

      It will be possible to make far more healthy food this way controlling everything thats in it. Naturally produced foods are very irregular. As for milk some of us are partly evolved to digest it, I can't drink raw milk now. Then theres quite a bit of milk thats not really great to drink such as blood serum, antibodies and such.

  • @suicune2001
    @suicune2001 Год назад +1

    Wow! This gave me hope for the future. Thanks so much for your hard work!

  • @yahalomu27
    @yahalomu27 Год назад +2

    Very interesting topic. Specially with the food crisis because the war. Can something change dramatacally quickly?

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 Год назад

      Technology can't change fast enough for current hunger problems. That requires a political change.

    • @bobwallace9753
      @bobwallace9753 Год назад +1

      @@incognitotorpedo42
      Don't agree. Food shortages are currently due to distribution problems.
      If we produce meat, milk, and other products close to markets, where people are, then distribution problems decrease.
      Meat and milk via a fermentation process along with close to market vertical farming for produce could produce vast amounts of food where it is needed.
      Remote rural areas largely need to be taught how to capture rainwater to recharge aquifers and grow a mix of crops that feed them year round. They need help to move off the famine and feast cycle of monocrops.

  • @sportbikeguy9875
    @sportbikeguy9875 4 месяца назад

    Tony has a few MAJOR things wrong here.
    I'm a fan of Tony's work. But you can't just say a cow is the most inefficient food production animal or method....
    There's A LOT of land that is only really good for growing grasses, not monocrop farming, and cattle keep that land fertile by recycling the grass that grows there.
    You can't just wipe out cows and monocrop farm everything. We're already doing that and the health of the Earth's soil is degrading rapidly. Cows keep earth fertile, and any talk about getting rid of them is globalist nonsense to control your food supply.
    Grazing cows keep fields much more healthy than chemical herbicides/pesticides and fake fertilizer!

    • @beehappy7797
      @beehappy7797 4 месяца назад +1

      We don't need chemical herbicides/pesticides and fake fertilizer when when we don't have cows. The areas used for meat production will remain as they were before they were destroyed by meat production.

  • @bambelbino
    @bambelbino Год назад +1

    I want to invest in Remilk 🙃

  • @themogget8808
    @themogget8808 Год назад

    You talk about the size of the ReMilk building where the fermentation takes place, the processing room, and that would be equivalent to the cow housing, milking, and butchering facilities, right? The majority of the land use isn't the factory - its the acres and acres of farmland needed to feed and water the cows over their lifetime.
    How are the resource uses calculated? Process area to process area? Or feedstock growing area to feedstock growing area? Ideally you would make that distinction and share both numbers. The resource advantages are worth going into more detail so people can visualize it. You have beautiful cost-curve graphs, but your resource comparisons are just numbers. Can we get graphics? Aerial photos?

    • @jankonietzko
      @jankonietzko Год назад +1

      Good question but probably a lot less land will be required as a cow converts all inputs into only 3% of product.

  • @theflexitariantimes8140
    @theflexitariantimes8140 Год назад +2

    Great point at the end of this: You WILL still be able to have an artisan Kobe ribeye steak in 2035. Just like you can still ride a horse. A basic necessity turned into an extravagant indulgence/hobby.

  • @lolavanderkip6249
    @lolavanderkip6249 Месяц назад

    Can anyone explain this shortly?

  • @Celestialrob
    @Celestialrob Год назад +6

    As a vegan it amazes me that people still kill animals and eat their flesh. This is a wonderful future. Optimistic.

    • @angelguzman5512
      @angelguzman5512 Год назад

      Grow a pair old man

    • @Celestialrob
      @Celestialrob Год назад +1

      @@angelguzman5512 thanks for your insightful and deeply analytical comment.

  • @mfpears
    @mfpears Год назад +1

    How will this impact space travel?

    • @tonyseba
      @tonyseba  Год назад +2

      #PrecisionFermentation is a no-brainer for Space. Not just for food. PF can be used to make materials, medicine, vitamins, cosmetics, etc. And not just proteins, but almost any organic molecule in nature. As long as you have a source of water, energy, nitrogen and carbs, you could make hundreds (eventually millions) of products onsite.

  • @coguglielmi
    @coguglielmi Год назад

    Great if we can design the proteins we need as the proportion of amino acids differs vastly from quality proteins (in eggs) Vs poor ones (in veggies, which have a low (≤17%) efficiency i.e. proportion of essential amino acids that enter into the building of human cells), i.e. proteins adapted to human DNA. Our guts get renewed 100% every 3 days so we do need quality proteins!

  • @gustavoazzo
    @gustavoazzo Год назад +2

    Part 1, 2, and 3 were great. But Tony doesnt know ANYTHING about human nutrition, which should be the basis of this presentation. Cows produce far more than protein. They produce a large variety of unprocessed fatty acids, critical for human health. Also: unprocessed vitamin A,D,K2,E, enzymes, bacteria for your gut, all natural, from grassfields. Milk is a superfood and should never be compared to processed garbage food. Food should be nutrition based for an educated world. He advocates a future of processed food, which is an absurd. Inconsequential indirect damage to human health. Thats what this video is.

    • @m_sedziwoj
      @m_sedziwoj Год назад

      and too much sugar is not good, as cigarettes or alcohol, and you think it stop companies to selling it? If law not force other way, it will happen. And it doesn't matter if is healthy or not.

  • @MrArtist7777
    @MrArtist7777 Год назад +8

    Love your disruption presentations, Tony. Was just talking with a friend about silly, old customs we cling on to, and neck ties are one of the silliest, non-essential pieces of fashion we cling to today. Would be GREAT for all men to stop wearing neck ties, except on rare occasions when they want to, while women ditch high heels and uncomfortable skirts and disrupt fashion. SO looking forward to the day when we stop killing animals for meat and chopping down trees for paper and wood and progress forward with new technologies. Keep up the great work!

    • @gazlives
      @gazlives Год назад

      be careful what you wish for. we have our S curve in health; getting sicker and sicker the more we move away from natural animal foods. modern diseases are virtually non -existent in traditional societies that rely on animal products for most of their needs.
      do you really believe these new fake foods will give us the perfect/optimal balance of nutrients and mineral our evolved biology requires. they won't because it's about profit not health. we have normalised illness and people rely on the drug industry to mask symptoms without actually curing anything. it's all profit driven.
      the rich will continue to eat the food that optimises health, i.e. natural food.

  • @EKrishna-v9c
    @EKrishna-v9c 2 месяца назад

    Who the hell eats horse 🤢

  • @loucatozzi7656
    @loucatozzi7656 Год назад

    How many people were in the audience? Even when Tony cracks a joke there is just silence in response. Geat information, though.

  • @ZotThithmaKarin
    @ZotThithmaKarin Год назад +12

    Thanks to you Tony, i invested in Tesla and now I'm a millionaire

    • @walterrudich2175
      @walterrudich2175 4 месяца назад +2

      😂soon your Tesla stock will be worth nothing

    • @beehappy7797
      @beehappy7797 4 месяца назад

      @@walterrudich2175 Today, Tesla can drive you home from the pub while you sleep. When it becomes legal, the stock will explode. Eruption has occurred.

  • @Matzes
    @Matzes Год назад +2

    I am very sceptica about actual meat/fish being disrupted and replaced. all the available products are highly unimpressive.

    • @Gcanno
      @Gcanno Год назад

      May I Offer You A Snow Crab Substitute .

  • @cardp17
    @cardp17 Год назад

    amrs is at the center of this drive. well worth looking into the company. would love tony's take on their programs.

  • @charleswillcock3235
    @charleswillcock3235 Год назад +2

    I can see how man made milk might be acceptable. Many people like meat as we know it today I think many people will hold out for traditional meat if they can afford the choice.

  • @michaelbisceglia9154
    @michaelbisceglia9154 4 месяца назад

    What about the nutritional value if any?

    • @beehappy7797
      @beehappy7797 4 месяца назад

      Fruit and vegetables will still exist.

  • @chrisbraid2907
    @chrisbraid2907 Год назад

    How trustworthy and safe are these processes? When the UN seeks to drop the whole world population below a billion, while the total Current World Population Can currently fit in my current State of Western Australia and could actually be fed by normal food production of Australasia if we really wanted to… precision Fermentation might have a lot of promise but the unknowns are not worth the risk hydroponics held a lot of promise but came with risks.I’m looking at the complexity and the ease of accidental contamination or deliberate sabotage . Much harder to do that when food supply is well spread. I’m not impressed by clever dicky food. Artificial textures might appeal to some but it won’t appeal to everyone.

    • @JBulsa
      @JBulsa Год назад

      Under 500,000,000

  • @chumbo3992
    @chumbo3992 Год назад +2

    You will eat ze bugz

  • @gigglehertz
    @gigglehertz Год назад

    Watched this and immediately bought his book on the subject

  • @123sonner
    @123sonner Год назад

    will we be able to get bananas ever again? artifical bananas? hope so

  • @AlphaCrucis
    @AlphaCrucis Год назад

    Will this also leapfrog over hydroponic farms?

  • @Eternalspring22
    @Eternalspring22 Год назад

    What could go wrong? Any doctors here?

  • @heinuchung8680
    @heinuchung8680 Год назад

    So a few large companies will control the worlds food supply. I like seba but he is overly optimistic . Food is already more expensive