Star Trek: Picard Season 3, Episodes 8, 9, and 10 - re:View
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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Mike and Rich's wildest dream has come true. After 30 years the Enterprise D has returned with the Next Generation crew at the helm. Y'all got yours now we get ours. If you got a complaint please email it to
Rich and Mike actually LIKING a piece of new star trek content was NOT on my 2023 bingo card.
Word!!
"Made Mike and Rich happy" is a higher achievement than winning an Emmy; Terry Matalas has basically won at creating Star Trek.
How long have you been holding on to that bingo card young one👴🏽👴🏽
It's shocking that a franchise that took the stance of alienating and hating on their fanbase actually took a 180 and actually gave the fans what they wanted instead. I mean it's like the first one to do it I think, cause all the other ones I can think of are just doubling down on hating on their fans.
@@Too_many_thoughts I mean he said it was a 2023 card... So 4 months
Going from thumbnails of Mike and Rich in unholy torment to a completely normal thumbnail, what an arc
😂😂
I've been unironically more invested in this journey over the 3 seasons than I have been any TV show or movie to drop in the last 10 years.
Red Dead Redemption
They've earned it. After all they've earned themselves a nice little closer/cleanser.
now this is how you subvert expectations
Mike genuinely looks about 5 years younger during this review.
Matalas did it. He breathed new life into a dying Stoklasa.
There's hope for the Stoklasa clan yet
And now we get Section 31 to kill it again!
it reminds me of that one episode of _Star Trek: The Next Generation_
He reminds me of a young Dr. Noonian Soong!
He'll revert back to reminding me of an old, decrepit Dr. Noonian Soong in no time.
MATALAS AND STOKLASA, AT TANAGRA!
MATALAS, HIS EYES OPEN
Rich losing it on the "two women that gave Riker the most trouble" line was comedy gold!
It takes some true nerd knowledge to put all of that together. If the writers did that intentionally I want them to write Star Trek for the rest of their lives.
48:10
Chekov wasn't the only cameo. In episode 2, it's referenced that a lawsuit has been made to a toilet. Sue loo
Mike writing some weird love letter to Rich through editing and using Wesley Crusher as his puppet to voice his love for his friend has got to one of the most bizarre demonstrations of affection I've seen in awhile.
It's beautiful though- when an ape can communicate so poetically through editing
Considering he turns friend into a sociopath space cop and a movie loving serial killer, this is just par for the course.
Underrated comment
They're Sam and Frodo, but they're both Sam & Frodo.
@@mat778 touche!
Nothing better than Mike spending 10 minutes of a Picard review to recap an old TOS episode.
The show within a show trope learned so artfully from the Menagerie
Five of which were an argument about where and when we had a Mugato sighting.
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
...and totally misrepresent it as somebody who wasn't alive at the time would.
Rich saying that he’s not just a member of RLM, but is also a fan and wants to see Mike’s movie was delightful.
This also explains why Mike tortured Rich at the end.
"I want Star Trek to be a beacon of hope that will hopefully inspire real-life people to be better." Thank you brother Rich! That is why we Trek.
It precisely is.
@@OCDustin 🖖
Global space communism lol
“I want the D” -Rich Evans
“I want the D” -Rich Evans
Rich saying "I'm not just a member of RLM, I'm a fan and I want to see you finish [your project]" to Mike is genuinely one of the nicest moment between these two men I've seen on camera.
this and the moment Rich gave a multiple choice answer to Mike when he failed to answer to a question about Wes Craven new nightmare
His kindness was repaid with this 1:14:28 poor Rich.
@@McKadow You befriend a Rich Evans so you can make it roll down a hill 20x wearing a t-shirt for maximum forearm injuries.
While we're being wholesome, Mike's love for Rich is shown in all the jokes he carefully constructs just to make Rich laugh.
The "Riker's fanfic" is just one of many, many examples.
I like the comment but will not like because it's at 666 and I don't want to ruin that
Obviously if you introduce Chekhov, you're required to reference him in the end. That's screenwriting 101.
bang
Chekhov's Chekhov
This post is top tier literary humor.
Isn’t it weird they didn’t even mention that combining Anton Yelchin and Pavel Chekhov is also a reference to Anton Chekhov
@@Spaecefaeries I mean these are the same guys who didn't realize the Northman was based on the same source material as Hamlet and were comparing it to Gladiator instead, not like we can expect them to know what Chekhov's patronym was.
You know, one thing I appreciate in every Star Trek review video is the consistently strange clips of Wil Wheaton being the most awkward and bizarre human on the planet.
All those member berrys, Crusher's child, and no Wesley in sight...
@@sladewilson9741 There were episodes I liked him in. Esp when he was at the academy and there was a big drama. Then he grew up and became a disgusting neckbearded blob that sounds fake every time he talks.
I’m so glad he was left out of this. You know Will the total bell end was devastated by it and that’s a sweet image to think of.
The only way they could have made it better would be to give Wil's parents cameo roles to rub salt in the wound.
Shill Wheaton
Rich describing how, as he watched episode 9, he was just smiling and laughing out of sheer joy despite being a cynical bastard is a perfect description of me watching Mike and Rich in these re:views.
Rich might be a cynical bastard but you can tell he has a good heart deep down.
The cuts to Will Wheaton faux personality never ceases to make me laugh.
What is with that? Why is he talking like that? It's so obviously fake and performative. I can't watch anything he does.
You know at least a few cast memebers roll their eyes with him. Always calling it “his family” “his friends” if you watch the interviews they never even mention him.
He acts way to fake excited about everything, I don’t understand how he keeps
Getting shows.
@@jeffosoft he’s hard to watch because he is so fake.
Is it a faux personality if it has completely replaced his personality and it's all he knows now?
@@Kasaaz He even acts with that faux sincerity voice now. I could not watch his scene in the 2nd season finale because it was so cringe.
Riker getting to see the two women who rejected him die is perfect 😂
Ro slept with him in at least one episode. He wasn't rejected by them. They just gave him lip like others never dared to.
@@noneya3635 tbf, the whole crew had amnesia when that happened
@@noneya3635 to be fair she didn’t know why she slept with him she thought she had lust for him but she just couldn’t stand him
Did they hire the guy that does the fan remixes to actually produce something for this review?
na, they acted on their mutual attraction in that episode, since they had memory loss and didn’t know the implication it had
I love watching RLM be miserable and tear terrible things apart as much as anyone, but I really enjoyed watching you two be so happy for once.
Great pallet cleanser. Next week it's back to unholy schlock.😈
Alex Kurtzman must be rage shitting in his private bathroom at the studio lot after seeing how Season 3 worked out so well
Would he understand that it did?
I feel like the most beautiful (but likely unintentional) middle finger to Kurtzman was in the live Q&A that aired after the IMAX finale screening: Pretty much all of the actors on the panel praised Matalas profusely.
None did so to Kurtzman.
Both Kurtzman and Matalas were on the panel. 😂
That sounds like required viewing for Trek fans to me.
They're paid for praising Matalas. Like they all praised John Logan until after the run of Nemesis was over.
@@humankirk9196 or maybe they liked it and thought he did a great job? 🤷🏾♂️
@@humankirk9196 Who's paying you to be a bucket of misery?
@@humankirk9196 While I’m normally the Debbie downer, they would have been paid to praise both of them, not leave one completely out.
I love the intercuts having Whil Wheaton just nodding along. Never gets old.
It would be awesome if RLM could do an entire series intercut with Wesley footage - it could be named 'The Journal of the Whills'.
Agreed
Elnor being unceremoniously killed off screen is just so hilarious to me idk why
Yes you do, we all do. And it is hilarious.
Died in Iraq. Sad.
@@wattsvilleblues The actor?
@@TaCo0oCaT The character. Just being sarcastic.
Matalas has said he didn't write him to be on the Excelsior(i.e. he forgot about him) so he might not be canonically dead.
A few years ago Stephanie Czajkowski was diagnosed with three different types of unrelated cancers within an 18-month period. She stuck with the bald head and it's a great look for a Vulcan!
wow what a cool fact. thanks for the info!
Rich bursting with laughter on loop over the Riker VS people who backtalked him getting killed off montage had me in stitches, haven't laughed that hard in a long time and surely needed it - thanks guys.
48:08 for the replay. I was on the floor when first watching this.
For real, I was laughing so hard at this… SO GOOD 😂
Best new trek in decades.
The first 2 or 3 times I laughed with it, 4-5 I started saying “that’s enough”, and by 6 I was laughing again. Well done.
Incredible
You know Mike cried a single tear when Majel Barrett’s voice returned as Ship’s Computer
I did too 😢
Yeah I totally cry nerd tears too when I hear AI facsimiles of Voices I Know™ too
@@synnovevikstrom9841 Pretty sure that voice clip was ripped straight from TNG? She has had plenty of lines as the ship computer, over the years.
@Synnöve Vikström you must be super enjoyable to be around.
Someone tells you something they like and you shit all over it. Amazing attitude
@@IrisCorven if that's indeed the case that's great, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was some AI corpse pilfering
Picard missing the carpet of the Enterprise is the most he's acted like Jean Luc Picard this entire show.
Yeah, I’m just pretending that season 1 and 2 were a bad dream induced by too many death sticks (sorry-wrong franchise) and the show known as “Picard” is simply a mini-series consisting solely of Season 3!
You know, back at the academy....
RIGHT?
@@jamesphillips4599 Too bad it still puts money in Kurtzman's pocket. And caused Section 31.
A little nod of recognition to the D bridge set crew working hard for six months to get two days of shoot with the TNG crew.
“No one got gigantically fat.”
[Cuts to pensive Rich Evans]
A pox on the editor’s house for besmirching Rich Evans’ fine name and full figure!
I was scrolling to see if I was the only person who noticed that... definitely on purpose
Troi actually using her Betazoid skills to do something useful at the end was nice.
I'm so glad she got such an impactful hero moment
Deus ex betazoid.
This time she DIDN'T crash the ship after being given the keys!
She's also one of the most unethical counselors I've ever seen. And that is saying a lot
@trisolaran Nah. Troi feels emotions ... and Riker's emotions at that moment would have been incredibly strong and directed towards her. I can totally buy that she would sense his location due to this.
Its kind of funny that while Ro Laren is one of my favourite characters, I got to find out she died through a compilation of Rich Evans maniacally cackling at her death.
Well, its nutreck. Nothing matters anymore, Shelby and Ro laren die - who cares? Thousands of officers are killed even more are assimilated? Lets make a carpet joke and a happy reunion…
How would you start on this review and not all the previous reviews leading up to this?
@@cruvensilverwing7948i watched their early reviews and then they started saying that it got bad again so i stopped watching and then saw this come out just recently. Also there’s plenty ppl watching who’ve never seen Star Trek and will never see it so i dont rlly mind
Wil Wheaton is so humble to guest in this Picard review by two elderly mental patients
Wil Wheaton is just a collective hallucination of two elderly mental patients.
I like how he played an arrogant asshole nerd kid with a smirk that you wanted to punch him in the face in original TNG.
And he still does that now and I still feel that about him.
Really good acting :)
@@cyberiankorninger1025 Remember the episode where everyone was playing the hot new video game, Worm Discs Harrier, and were like "hey Wes, wanna be cool and play this game with us?" and he was like "nah fam I don't like video games. I'm going to go sit in the dark in my room and do some math instead!"
What kind of teenager in the 90's didn't like video games?! What kind of teenager didn't want to fit in with everyone else??
They wrote the poor kid to be hated. Remember the "shut up Wesley!" line Picard yelled at him for doing what Picard asked him to do? "Data seems sus, Wes keep an eye on him." "Roger sir!" Then later: "Sir, I'm pretty sure this isn't Data." "SHUT UP LITTLE TURD BOY!"
@@BMoser-bv6kn your correct my main point was I hate his actual persona and WW today not Wesley Crusher :)
"We just can't pay these guys off for a good review. They're principled men of honor; and Rich Evans"
"So what are we going to do if we can't pay off these critics?"
"Well, I guess the easiest thing to do is just make a reasonable season of Star Trek"
"You know, Trevistan, it's so crazy it just might work"
Rich said exactly what I've always thought about Data vs Brent Spiner aging. Data could easily "age" himself intentionally - I mean, he dyed a grey streak in his hair in the alternate future in All Good Things. "A touch of grey adds an air of distinction."
For better or for worse, in the 90s, the idea of 'Fitting in' and "blending' was very important. That was the narratrive angle taken for Data. In modern days. we'd tell him to just be himself and not worry about pleasing others through copying them. That's why Lall's argument that if we'll never BE human, why try so hard to emulate them might have sounded silly in the 90s would be received in an entirely different way today. What I'm getting at is Data's urge was always to be more human. Aging is human. It makes perfect sense he'd want to experience/experiment with the idea.
There was also a season 7 episode that said he could age
"looks like a bloodeh skunk" Plus he grew a beard in that one episode so he might be more biological than we think
Or even just handwave 'Dr Soong included programming where, once I had reached a certain level of emotional and mental development, by body would then start to mimic ageing.
His mother aged.
Having discovered RLM through their TNG movie reviews, there's a strange kind of full circle closure seeing them now satisfied, finally.
Are you one of the legendary OG fans that discovered them through NSFW furry forums?
Same
@@ElArto95 what? huh? i dont want to know do i?
right there with you. Its sad but good at the same time. Kurtzman will fuck up again soon though.
I liked how when they arrived on the Enterprise D they turned up the lights really slowly.... you weren't sure if it was still gonna be dark like all the other nutrek...and then it kept getting brighter until it was just right
The only quibble I have with the Enterprise's return is that they didn't use the bridge design from Generations since that's the way she was before we lost her (with the additional stations along the walls as opposed to the empty space from the TV show). Unless I missed something, I thought that the saucer was salvaged and the secondary hull was what was piece milled together...not that it was a total rebuild. So while it was good to see her again, she felt like an older version of her past self as opposed to what she was when she was cut down in her prime.
I actually love the EE.
@@samueltheprideofafrikarobi9319 It's how Geordie (and the fans) most fondly remembered it. He removed the stations during the refurb.
It wasnt artificial stage lighting the old show had, but its the lighting the bridge would have had had it have the budget for it, while not going overboard like Generations.
To be honest, I was waiting for someone to comment about the lighting. Maybe a "You know, I forgot how nice it is to see where you're walking..."
I don’t think the show creators realize how significant an endorsement from red letter media is
@𝐓𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐧 someone else said "underrated comment" way up in the replies of something generic and this is actually the winner
i get this vibe every episode i've watched since the fallout of the last big star wars trilogy started midway through (so for like the last five years) but i keep watching RLM because if you don't think about that it's not there and the guys are always as entertaining
It's kind of sad though considering how bad Mike's takes are on this show. It's awful, but he likes it? So strange. Meanwhile he hates Strange New Worlds despite it being the best new Trek show since DS9..
@@hannibalb8276 He’s being consistent. He’s always pointed out the inconsistencies, illogical decisions by characters, and occasional plot holes of the Star Trek he likes. You can’t really be a ST fan if you get hung up on these things.
"I sure hope old faild movie school graduates love me"... sure bro
@@sparkpenguin you legally have to point out any paid endorsements. Conspiracy theorists everywhere! Like, sure guys. You're saying they're getting paid to say good things about this show (late to the party, on top of it) while also shitting on CBS's more focused investment of every new Kurtzman show coming out next? It's a big ol' plan or something? Right. Are the Dimlumaniti involved too?
Rich's analogy of Klutzman destroying toys is spot on.
"I'm not just a member of RLM, I'm also a fan" is the most wholesome thing that's ever been said on this channel.
I would love for these new, actual competent writers to give Voyager this same treatment. Bring back the cast. Tie up loose threads. Give us an actual proper epilogue. Hell, even find some way to resolve Kes situation (even if actor is out of the loop, it can still be attempted via other narrative methods).
Except for Mike laughing at the elderly until he can't breathe
I don't know, Mike worrying about Rich's diabetes was pretty wholesome.
@@OhManTFE i was about to say the same for DS9, but as much as I hate to admit it, the ending they got was perfect as it is.
Whilst I disagree with then on this series I defend their right to say it. The Enterprise G reveal had me swearing at my screen at the sheer laziness of it. The endless member berry stuff was awful.
The absolute emotional rollercoaster these two have been through with this franchise is crazy lmao.
Glad the car has miraculously missed the cliff, and the plate is safe.
It's a shame Rich Evans had to meet his fate by the plate, though.
Every wheaton cutaway was just, pure gold. And that end
Holy shit was it worth almost 3h of content
(38:55) To add a point, Picard season 3 also negated season 2's version of the Borg when Captain Shaw in the holodeck bar in episode 4 said: "Forget about all that weird sh*t on the Stargazer. The real Borg are still out there."
He means there's factions and the ones that want to assimilate humanity are still alive
I get it, it had also a double meaning of telling the audience to forget the prior season
@@chrispekel5709 Yes. I particularly like the use of the phrase 'weird shit' which is a nod to the terrible writing of season 2. That's exactly what it was. It made zero sense.
Yeah because he correctly remembered that they were an offshoot of the Borg
1:03:22 Mike doing a hand gesture for boom mics clipping into the top of the frame, while perfectly clipping his hand into the top of the frame, is the mark of a true professional
I'm probably spoiling some low budget youtube magic for you, but Mike probably has a monitor pointed his way.
The only thing that brings me more joy than seeing two old men miserable and reminiscing about the good old days is seeing two old men content about the present. ❤
They're only a couple of years older than me, oh no :(
That’s actually a wonderful sentiment.
Sums up the vibe of Season 3 Picard
Terry Matalas saved this season as showrunner. I loved the whole season and I really hope he does Star trek Legacy.
Its fucking crazy how little Paramount Executive direction understands their golden IP. Giving Kurtzman the helm basically illustrates that people that run the show watched "Lost" and actually liked it. Giving Matalas the helm at the 11th hour is history repeating itself. SMe way Enterprise S3 had Many Coto attached, and that was the best season as it was cancelled. Fuck.
Is there any reason our boys ahvent talked about Strange New Worlds
@@lucamagnani5243 they just don't seem interested.
Yeah they need to just give him the keys to Star Trek. He gets it. Picard season 3 felt like proper modern Star Trek and not just because of the familiar characters
He didn't save it. As a fan of Berman era Trek Picard season 3 was abhorrent. The actors are too emotionally expressive ( in stark contrast to TNG), there's too much violence, and ridiculous things like that portal gun. It's unwatchable.
ST:Prodigy is the only good new Trek.
I wish for only 2 things: Rich and Mike's immortality, and endless Star Trek content
so you mean hell?
I'm shocked there was no mention of Troi getting redemption for crashing the Enterprise D in Generations. In that movie, she took the helm, and the ship wound up crashing, and fans have (mostly jokingly) given her crap about it ever since. Here, right at the climax, she takes the helm of the Enterprise D again, and saves Riker, Picard, Worf, and Jack.
The part where they focus on that had to be cut for time so Mike could ramble endlessly about a background Vulcan and a completely unrelated TOS episode.
or that shitty subplot where she was mindraped by the Reman in Nemesis, so now she gets to use her mind powers for good to find the boys and does a F&F: Tokyo Drift to pick them up
@@mdmn-ARCA As it should be.
She also crashed the Big-E, that was on purpose though. I was joking that when Picard gives the order through the console, he wrote to Deanna "do what you do best" :D
Good call
This is the first time I've enjoyed actually watching Picard more than listening to mike and richs ReView's on the show. Hats off to Matalas.
Terry Matalas is the Nic Meyer of TNG.
Hopefully the show runners take notes from this season and learn what makes Star Trek good. It's not about the pew pew action of Star Wars. It's not about the violence of Predator. It's not about the dark and gritty of The Dark Knight. It's about the values of the Federation and the moral dilemmas of the Captains implementing it.
@@One.Zero.One101 Ethical dilemmas and using knowledge, wisdom, and diplomacy to solve them is really the big part of it.
It’s a really small thing, but after Data did his “trust his gut” bit, the way Geordi said “okay” was just so Geordi TNG it made me very happy
I loved how Geordi spat out 'Fire" for fire torpedos, like saying the word physically hurt him cos he knew he was killing his closest friends. Great acting by LeVar.
LeVar’s performance was my favorite.
That was a great moment for me too.
That extended cut of Rich cackling over Riker getting rebuked by Ro Laren and Shelby fucking killed me
riker really looks like a confused dog after shelby walks out of that turbo lift
'It's time to open the door, Jack.' Said Deanna Troi. Jack Crusher reached out towards the doorknob and slowly turned it... behind it was...
Janeway. 'Get the hell out of my way.' she says, shoving him aside. Deanna Troi gasps as Jack Crusher morphs into Janeway in real life. She marches to the bridge. 'Admiral?!' exclaims Picard. 'What are you doing here?' 'I'm about to go Insaneway.' she replies. 'Data, crank it to warp 10.'
As they arrive at Jupiter, Lizard Janeway launches herself out of the shuttle bay, landing at the feet of her nemesis. 'Remember me?' she says with a grin.
Piss
Is this real??
And then she Janewent all over the borg queen
This is basically S1/2
What is this copypasta
I am utterly shocked RLM didn't play the vase-shattering sound effect when Vadic smacked into the Shrike.
That ending was one of my favorite sequences in RLM history. A masterclass in editing. And cancer. This is what I'm so grateful to have been a viewer of for 35 years. I appreciate you both.
I feel like I missed something. What was the plate and pizza thing all about?
"And cancer" lmao
@@ChrisLayfield It was the previous episode they made a bet that Rich had to eat pizza off the plate if the show didnt end up going all Kurtzman, and Mike would break it if it did I think.
Wil Wheaton, is that you??
Don't forget aids
Rich and Mike being happy and enjoying things melts my heart.
It burns
So, do I have to suffer through season 1 and 2 to enjoy season 3?
@@niemanickurwaNo, maybe look for a recap to see how bad it got before it turned around, but don’t waste the lifetime.
Rich repping Janeway and saying she deserved to be an admiral made my heart soar. I clapped!
I cried butterfly tears!
Did you stand up while you clapped though? Cos if not......
@@davidkymdell452 I did not 😞 but for the sake of improv yes and
Janeway is badass.
I always kinda wanted Janeway to pee on me.
I've been bad, pee mommy.
Jack doing the Picard uniform tug at the end was just another of those little nods that showed the writers of season 3 had actually watched next gen.
@@democrrrracymanifest Nah, the Picard Maneuver is how they ended up with Jack in the first place.
@@SomeOrangeCat heeeeyyyyooooo
Next season will be Picard saving the Q daughter he had with Vash.
@@evanbelisle8464 After Naris kidnaps Picard's new daughter and tortures her because he stood her up for Crusher. Let's will this into existence! /s
Fun fact: if the President's called Anton Chekhov and he's the son of the TOS character, then his full name would be Anton Pavlovich Chekhov. And that is literally the name of the writer which the TOS character was named after. Indeed, there's a lot of Chekhov honorings.
Homage to the late Anton Yelchin who played Chekov in the reboot movies. Very nice touch.
I wanna see a spin-off of this where O'brien has to go around hunting down rogue changelings impersonating transporter chiefs.
"It's someone else's turn to suffer."
With his buddy Bashir!
It's f dumb that the whole plot revolved around transporters and O'brien wasn't in the show.
Oh fuck yeah
@@paddmeister6752 If Bashir's there, Garak's gotta make an appearance.
I wanna see a spinoff where Jake Sisko is a cynical independent journalist exposing all the fuckups that Starfleet covers up.
;-)
52:05 "Ma'am I'm just a cook"
50:20 proceeds to attack and maneuver through the entire Collectivized Starfleet Armada, and avoids a fatal plasma torpedo on a cloaking ship with no shields (around minute 25 in the episode).
His spaghetti must be divine.
So as a cook, what does he do? Dump organic mineral molecules into the replicator supply bins?
@@ZagnutBarno he cooks like chefs today do. On Earth there are lots of traditional restaurants. Replicator food isn't always the most popular.
Sisko's dad runs a restaurant. Neelix on Voyager cooks meals for the crew.
Replicator can't even make real alcohol.
No it’s from working in a deli that is tough
What a Star Trek story arc! Average or above-average people doing extraordinary things when the situation calls for it and with the assistance and encouragement of their team.
@@sth128 Neelix cooked on voyager because of power rationing and limited replicators, it was very much a luxury cruise liner enterprise D thing for every room to have a personal replicator, so I suspect it fits the titan quite well to have a cook. It is Kinda dumb that a tiny little constitution class ship is the flagship now though considering how big and well equipped they have all been /since/ the constitution.
I'm never watching Picard but I can't get enough of these two talking about Star Trek.
I could listen to them talk about anything, but I really wish they'd squeeze some other content in-between their month-two month Trek videos.
sounds like you should watch season 3 by the sounds of their discussions of it!
If we were talking about the first two seasons: I honestly wouldn't blame you, especially S2. Season 3 was simply amazing though.
I'm sure it's perfectly fine especially given their review but I'm happy with Lower Decks for when I need to scratch the TNG/DS9/Voyager itch
I'm worried this one is going to be less funny because season 3 was actually decent
Data's aging was already taken care of in the show. S07E10 "Inheritance" Geordi talking to Data, Crusher, and Riker in sickbay while examining Data's android mother: "It's part of her aging program. Not only does she age in appearance like Data, her vital signs change too."
Just a little Next Gen trivia that a lot of people miss!
I've never seen a single episode of Star Trek, but I watch all of these reviews because watching these fellas talk about something they're so passionate about is one of the most entertaining things ever.
As long as no one's getting hurt, passion tends to be infectious.
Yup, plus, they have an awesome sense of humor and are pretty sharp/knowledgable about films/storytelling
sure, but these fellas are losing their minds, the season still sucked
@@backwardthoughts1022 not this season their losing their minds, they loved it.
@@backwardthoughts1022 L take, this season was good.
How Q coming back scene should have have.
Jack: " i thought you were supposed to be dead"
Q: " I got bored"
I would have loved it if he'd said that XD i liked the scene, but that version would have made me laugh
Perfect!
"Teenagers, at the mall, hanging out in the food court" Someone please break the news to Mike that such things no longer exist
Nowadays kids are hanging out at the TikTok on their (cue David Lunch voice) FUCKING TELEPHONES... GET REAL
not true, where do you live? It still is a thing..
It absolutely does exist. All major cities in the US have thriving malls. I'm in Los Angeles. Malls aplenty packed full of teenagers. The dying mall phenomenon is a middle America thing.
Most teenagers are hanging out taking hormones and cutting off their genitals. But they still sound as vacuous and stupid as the generations that hung out at the mall.
@cleftintwain Not even. I'm in Middle America and we still have malls. Not as many but still do
And I gotta say... how much Stewart's demeanor changed once on the Enterprise was a nice touch if it was intentional.
I've been checking Redlettermedia every day since the finale for this review.
Omg same!
Me too, bro.
Sometimes multiple times a day. I'm so glad they're finally enjoying a Star Trek show.
"It's like they read our minds"
Mike theres an entire backlog of how you'd fix Star Trek...I'd bet you Matalas is among us RIGHT now gleaming with joy that he did a good job. You and Rich were absolutely instrumental in making this happen.
Totally agree
I believe this to be true
Yes it almost makes up for Mike ruining the Sequel Trilogy
Matalas secretly created a TrekGPT to write season 3 and used RLM videos as the reward function during training.
I'm too cynical to think that Star Trek writers were hired that actually like RLM content but I would like to think that.
This is probably the most anticipated RLM video ever.
Probably the last I will view.
Shame they fell for the massive amount of Nostalgia and couldn't see how full of holes the plot is
At the end of the day Matalas did a great job of papering over the shoddy foundations that all the other kurtzman shows have. He should be heaped with praise for that, but the fact remains that if you look beneath seeing the Enterprise D again, there's still so many problems
@@CornishMoose
Their love of the cast (new & abominations of the past ones) is beyond me as they are just as bad if not worse (likely) than any of the recent ST series they mock in this clip.
@@greggasiorowski1326 lol why. Because they didn’t hate something you did? 😂
@@Cargo_Bay
I've only watched this channel as someone pointed it my way & they did a pretty fair job ripping up S2 of Picard, as I've said elsewhere 95-99% of what they cover is of zero interest to me & since they have lost it on S3 entirely I see little reason to check back. I chuck it up to nostalgia I was around 30 when STTNG ended so I don't see it through the haze of youth like these guys (and the rest of the possessed IMO). About the only thing that I have agreed with them on the S3 reviews is the STTNG post movies are garbage.
Honestly Worf preferring the weapon systems on the E seemed in character to me. I got a good chuckle out of that line too.
... any warrior like Worf prefers the best weapon or ship so ok to criticize old Enterprise..... . Only hobbyists value charm over firepower... Rich clearly is not a warrior... Rich is whatever Phlox was, a excited weirdo who stays away from hi pressure situations....
It seem in character to me too. Technically if you look at TNG history, Worfs ideas were hardly ever considered and usually a bad idea due to his impatients. Even though they made him wiser now amongst the inexperience, its a funny callback that he is still probably not the wisest amongst his peers. Also it took his crew to grow more patient in the first place.
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Who gives a crap about in character. I don't like all the stuff I love being replaced, and then being told how the new stuff is so much better. It aint.
I couldn’t take anything Worf said seriously because he looks like that dude from Kill Bill making fun of the old wise kung fu master trope with his eyebrows and sword behind his back. Totally took me out of it
Season 1&2 was so terrible it makes Season 3 passable
Laris, Elnor, Soji, and Jurati were on a transport ship that exploded under mysterious circumstances shortly after a tailor disembarked.
But, at least they were well-dressed before the explosion.
Think of them all as tragic victims of editing.
Later, a damaged datarod was found containing a recorded meeting with Kurtzman et al laughing around a table saying "Let's see 'em try to fix THIS garbage fire! Ha ha ha"
Garak the Cardassian Spy took them out? =O
@@Solarnova Plain AND simple Garak? He is just a humble tailor, though.
This season of Picard was so good it de-aged Rich Evans 15 years
But then gave him cancer
True, he looks like a 60 year old man again
I love how Star Trek: Picard ends on a wonderful high note and so too does this re:View arc of it.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
The boys are back to talk for over an hour about a show I have no intention of ever watching, and I couldn’t be happier!
Should check out season 3. It is really good.
Everyone: Yeah we don't need to watch this show, RLM will tell us how it really is! RLM: Season 3 is good! Everyone: .... (ignores video, not bothering to edit their comments)
@@JamieSwitzer I mean some people aren't watching Picard because they don't care about star trek. Even though I still think it's fun to listen to RLM talk about it
It’s so strange to me that every single time there is an episode of star trek related media on this channel that someone always says this as if it hasn’t already been said like 50 times.
You're not missing anything, S3 of Picard was absolutely awful.
One thing I really like is the way this season recontexutalizes the worst parts of the TNG movies' and Picard's earlier seasons which is more impressive than just ignoring the problems. For example, the Enterprise being destroyed allows it to have a triumphant return, Data sacrifices his android body, his life, and is rewarded with his human body and a new life, Picard's death and resurection establishes the tech that allowed Data to return, Crusher's relationship with Picard fizzeling out allows the drama of them reuinting to have more impact, and the plot with his body explains why Picard was randomly psychic is First contact. They turned those narative failures and dropped threads into a second act low point that is then resolved in the climax of this season. Really impressive. It almost makes me want to revisit stuff like Nemesis now that I know it all works out in the end.
Love this. Thank you!
This is great.
Thank you, you put into words how I feel. As much as I love Trek, Nemesis left such a bad taste in my mouth. It killing off Data and no mention of Lore, Beverly and Picard’s relationship not being ‘a thing’, the whole film feeling so dark and depressing, wasn’t the send off I needed them to have - it basically made me want to ignore the 4 films and pretend TNG ended on All Good Things. (I still feel sad they killed Kirk in Generations…) All the films damaged the TNG legacy, they even had to kill off Picard’s brother and son… But then along came Terry! It’s as if Matalas went through as many injustices as he could, and fixed them for us - and as a result, I genuinely feel that he’s mended my broken heart. I can watch Nemesis now, I can enjoy my TNG boxset now and feel content my beloved characters will have a wholesome, happy ending. I imagine Kurtzman really bregrudges and doesn’t ‘get’ Matalas’ success and I really doibt Kurtzman can take his ego out of the way and pitch Star Trek: Legacy to his bosses at Paramount. Kurtzman will continue to push his weird Dystopian 35th century Trek or whatever he is doing. But we got something lovely that we can hold lnto forever - I will buy Picard Season 3 on Blu-ray for my collection, my FIRST NuTrek purchase. I loathe SecretHideOut and bregrudge them having my money. I love diversity and represenstion, but their writing and lack of understanding of Trek, lack of respect for continiuty, makes me sick. I can’t believe season 3 of Picard was allowed to happen! Something good in a world which feels increasingly bad. We sre so lucky. (I wish they could have somehow retconned Trip’s conclusion… established a happier ending for him and T’Pol, but appreciate that was hundreds of years ago by this time period!)
I kinda feel the same way. I wouldn't go so far as to say it redeems them or makes them better, but it definitely recontextualizes them enough to make them feel relevant to the over all arc of the TNG/Picard narrative.
Theres a lot of these "deep cut" detail-retreads in modern films. Kinda like the whole howard stark thing being a dud in iron man 2 then getting revisited in infinity war with tony meeting his papa.
At least someone's chewing the cud here, with star trek.
It was really heartwarming seeing you guys enjoy something from your favorite franchise again, I really could feel your passion for Star Trek through the screen
I loved season 3 so much. But I think the best thing that they did was make Jack's powers obsolete for Star Trek Legacy. His powers hinged on everyone else having Picard's DNA in their system. Starfleet medical created a fix that removed that vulnerability from people. Without that, Jack's abilities are basically moot. And that's awesome.
Eh, you just know that if they go ahead with Legacy (God willing), there will be some kind of "Jack is the Borg King" cliffhanger at some point.
I'd think they'd remove that from Jack too, as far as the Borg specific organic technology. Just because it doesn't serve a purpose doesn't mean that it couldn't become active in the future.
Finally, the happy ending these characters deserved. Rich has been tortured long enough.
Why was he eating Pizza at the end? Was there some bet i am forgetting?
@@Mitchcraft. if the show was good, Mike was going to force him to eat food off of his decorative collectable star trek plate (which on the packaging said that the plate was ONLY for decoration, the paints on the plate were cancer causing)
56:56 The fact that Geordi undoubtedly made all the efficiency modifications to the new star drive section that he did to the Enterprise makes it more the Enterprise than any other ship. It feels good imagining him just modifying stuff in Jefferies tubes honestly enjoying himself all these years instead of having some purely administrative mental dead end job.
I wonder if he used the same automation software Scotty used to hijack the Enterprise in Search for Spock.
I loved this whole part of the video because it was basically the Ship of Theseus debate.
I’m honestly quite impressed with Levar Burton’s acting skills. Dementia has clearly not touched the man, unlike with Patrick Stewart. He’s so incredibly expressive and seems like he hasn’t missed a beat since 1987.
I've been saying it for years, and finally I'm vindicated. I've always said that these guys would be a lot happier if they just got some D and here we are. Happy for you guys
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I really loved getting the D too, even though I saw it coming.
I have just blitzed Picard S3 in 2 sittings. Beautiful, beautiful Trek. Thank you, Terry Matalas. "Hit it Johnny!"
Great to see the two of them happy for once.
I would have enjoyed at little interaction between Seven and the Borg Queen, even if it was just over comms. Seven has such a profound connection and history with the Queen that it feels odd they don't interact and Seven has less than visceral response to the Borg suddenly appearing.
Yea totally. Here its obvious that they made Seven into basically a side character tho and used all the space for the original TNG cast. And honestly I think thats probably for the best. I do like Seven and that little nod to VOY at the museum epizode was so nice. I kinda wish for similar send of with the whole VOY crew too... They also deserve it
The red jack was the card that Data choose when Riker told him that he would guess any card he picked. Data discovered very quickly what Riker did and by discovering his 'magic' trick he claimed all the money from that night's poker game.
I think that's the only time data won any money in the game
Boom, out-nerded 'em.
@@OhManTFE would love to say that I'm the uber ST nerd, but I just happen to watched a random TNG clip in youtube a couple of days before.
@@Hdarg The right man in the right place at the right time
I miss seeing a brighly lit and clean federation starship, where the officers and the crew act like starfleet officers, embarking on a scientific mission exploring strange New worlds, seeking out new life and new civilizations, and the occasional spatial anomaly.
It's so nice to see Mike and Rich happy about Star Trek again.
nature is healing
After Mike's "I think I'm done with Trek" at the end of PIC S2? Absolutely. I felt for him, because I felt the same way. This may not fix the franchise as a whole, but it fixed what the movies and first two seasons of Picard broke.
Tuvoc was a damn fine vulcan, I also enjoyed t'pol and spoks dad was amazing as a vulcan while acting vulcan in, balance of terror. That's talent sir
Going by the show canon, Tuvoc is still off wherever the changelings were torturing him.
Have all the 'renegade changelings' been caught/killed/surrendered now?
What ever happened to Tupoc
@@Tao_Tology That was explained in the "one year later" montage. Crusher invented a method to detect Changelings, and they revealed that the Changelings kept many of the people they replaced alive. The Tuvok at the end that promoted Seven to captain was the real one.
The pizza bit with wheaton was PERFECTION 😂
Only jumped into Picard Season 3 when Mike said it was safe at the start of this video, and I'm back to say thank you, thank you so damn much. This season brought joy to my soul, and I was so happy to see some good Trek again before I die.
Not gonna lie, I have watched this whole season several times since it ended, and it gets me every time. I LOVE this season.
Ricks laugh in the background at 48:24 is incredible.
I was crying laughing at that. Hilarious!
I'm greatful for Picard because it means more Red Letter Media
symbiotic relationship, like a fungus
@@Scribbled_Death Mycelium network, if you will...
Terry Matalas pulled off one of the greatest turnarounds in television history.
I just love the way he looked at all the crap that was done in Seasons 1 and 2 and apparently said NOPE. Not doing that.
Its so rare to actually have a genuine fan of an IP, that knows how to write, be responsible for said IP, and fix decade old mistakes while the aging actors are still alive and capable to perform. This was a lightning in a bottle situation, we should count our blessings that this even happened in this modern mediocrity and profit driven media industry.
Hey Terry
@trisolaran Peoples like you deserved only Kurtzmann Trek.
The Matalas Manuvere?
Between this, and the pissing contest that was the Sequel Trilogy, I openly welcome the petty age of screenwriters telling the person who ran the thing that came immediately before it to fuck off and that they suck.
as long as it makes 1 good thing opposed to 0, consistency be damned imo
@@nameynamename3758 Either way, watching JJ and Rian piss away hundreds of millions of disney dollars shitting all over each other's scripts was equal parts fascinating as it was hilarious. Passive aggressiveness is such an insanely powerful thing.
Yeah, just spitefully burning their own house to the ground to say F-you! to the other guy is hilarious!
@@gebeme11 It is if it's not your house. And I don't have any stake in Disney or Paramount.
@@Rex-qf7enAs someone who never gave a shit about Star Wars, it was absolutely amazing seeing JJ shit all over TLJ.
I hope we get a Galaxy Quest re:View at some point
By Grabthar’s Hammer, yes.
Then a Three Amigos re:view with Jay and Jack, since it's basically the same story as Galaxy Quest. Hopefully Jay has watched the Three Amigos by now.
Don't worry they'll be forced to watch the Galaxy Quest TV show that Paramount apparently thinks is a good idea.
Boy do I have news for you
It’s good to see them actually enjoy season 3 of Picard. It was a great send off for the TNG cast.
47:36 totally agree.
I think Stewart even behaved differently while on the 1701-D bridge set. That location brought Picard out of him in a way that never happened in seasons 1 and 2 and for most of 3.
And that was all we wanted.
There's no movie, no show, no media of any sort that I want to see more than Mike's "TNG visual gaffes" video.
When they’re opening Hanger “12” they are literally pushing 1 & 2 aside, revealing TNG behind them.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
The symbolism of all time
Oh wow...that is BRILLIANT. Please get Terry Matalas to replace Kurtzman PLEASE 🙏
OH MY GOD THATS PERFECT
You deserve praise for this one, love it
Picard: "Geordi, get down to Engineering and try to get more power out of the warp core."
La Forge: "I haven't rebuilt that set, Captain."
Picard: "What? La Forge, my Ready Room now."
La Forge: "Emm, we don't have that either, Captain."
Picard: "For Goodness sake. I'm off to 10-Forward for a drink."
La Forge shakes head shamefully. "Just the bridge, captain."
It's so novel and fantastic to be able to enthusiastically enjoy a show nowadays. I'm glad it happened, but it is kind of bittersweet. Matalas pulled it off, but the industry will learn no lesson (or the wrong lesson).
"I can sleep well at night"
That's the best line of 2023 of anyone 😂
Before I start my happy feelings post, thank you for pointing out the opera used in First Contact and this season - Les Troyens means The Trojans, and, based on the Aeneid, it begins 10 years into the siege of Troy, when the Trojans find a large wooden horse seemingly abandoned outside their city. I love how this ties into the themes of the entire season! (I also love how McCoy's eternal mistrust of the transporters was justified here).
Re Lt T'veen (the Vulcan officer who was killed) I've seen theories online that Vadic killed her on purpose because she was older than the Ensigns and wouldn't have been susceptible to Transporter assimilation!
Also, while I did find Vadic irritating with the giggling and whatnot, I later realised it was when Picard was earnestly explaining that they found out her cunning plan - to create a super-Picard clone or something - and she was laughing because they were so wrong. I appreciated that she didn't go into a supervillain monologue and immediately reveal what they'd all missed!
I never watched seasons 1 and 2 of this - I just followed your review and rolled my eyes - but once you said this was actually good, I watched it, and I was not disappointed (forgive me for ffwding through a lot of Rafi stuff, though less once Whorf turned up).
I appreciate that unlike many other online reviewers, you didn't complain about the Borg reveal - in my opinion (and I think Rich said it), it HAD to be the Borg. Not because they were the best villains (though to me they were the most terrifying, even though I'm a TOS girl), but because they were inextricably linked with Picard since The Best of both Worlds. And the Borg had to be done properly, not like the kinder, gentler Borg of season 2 - I am so glad they weren't even mentioned except for a seemingly throwaway line by Shaw. And I say seemingly because it wasn't a throwaway line - it was part of a series of a clues dropped throughout the season as to what was really going on.
I really, really enjoyed it. I kind of didn't mind the swearing, because it was restrained, compared to the examples you gave from Discovery.
The Enterprise D coming back was amazing, and it was such a relief to be able to see things again - my only nitpick would be that everytime they came back to the Titan I would be grumbling about people not paying the gaffer - where's the goddam light switch!
Not sure if I'll watch any more Strange New Worlds - I didn't like Paul Wesley as Kirk, have seen him in other things and he isn't very charismatic. Now I'd watch some other Star Trek show with Jack Crusher, but not if Kurtzman is there to muck it up.
1000 percent agree with everything you said. Took the words right out of mouth.
If Geordi had restored the enterprise d specifically for career day, it would have been integrated with all the other ships so as to take part in the preprogrammed ship formations as well as to be part of the defensive grid. Geordi actually taking it upon himself and gathering the resources himself to rebuild the entire ship is not only more impressive but makes sense narratively.
I was extremely pleased, in a time when everyone is being strongarmed into accepting microsoft's spyware or else, that they not only saved the day by being old, but by *not upgrading to windows 10*
Geordi is like a dedicate ship model builder, he put so much love rebuilding the ship and it shows, down to it not having any of the new fleet tech.
The more impressive feat is that Geordi decided to replace all the D’s networked systems with analog electronics! Either that ship is full of circuitry or science fiction is truly dead but waiting to be resurrected.
There is also the lovely "One Year Later" thing as the shot comes down over her resting back in the Museum. This means that beautiful ship went on to have one more year of adventures before going back to sleep.
*frontier day
i literally binged the entire season this weekend and HOLY CRAP it was so good. i had a smile on my face from start to end. they need to make all future trek products like this. Im with Mike, that cursing in trek doesnt have its place but even here it made a certain amount of sense.
I just wanna say a big congratulations to Cancer for getting the opportunity to work with internationally famed celebrity Rich Evans.
But he's already had cancer.. and AAAAAiiiiidddssss!!
Oh and crippling diabetes..
Now the cast is free to return for a new season of Gargoyles! :)
Oh god, we can dream.
;P
YES!!!
I still want to make wings that turn into a cape! God I loved that show
I respectfully disagree. "The Goliath Chronicals" basically ended "Gargoyles" for me.