Bottoms up presses with light KBs are great for rock climbers. I use it with the kids I coach. I improves grip endurance, strengthens the hand extensors and counters the pull movements from climbing.
In my kiddie-pool level of kettlebellism, I use the bottoms-up mode in a lightweight four-part warmup for the Snatch. -straight arm pendulum with hip snap, -straight arm pendulum with hip snap, bring shoulder back with slight bend in elbow -straight arm pendulum with hip snap, bring shoulder back with slight bend in elbow, kettlebell weightless to top & momentarily hold bottoms-up -straight arm pendulum with hip snap, bring shoulder back with slight bend in elbow, kettlebell weightless to top while hand accelerating smoothly to 3 point position Once I get the feeling going, I go on to what, for me, is a heavy weight. The bottoms-up mode checks whether I am getting the kettlebell moving so that it is momentarily weightless at the top.
What about the benefits to the shoulder stabilisers and neurological benefits? I find when I crush grip press the small muscles in my shoulders are working hard to make small movements to balance the bell, and I find it more neurologically taxing due to the focus required. And just more fun / interesting as well.
One of the reasons I like bottoms-up cleans is because I'm always trying to prevent my kettlebells from rusting as much as I can and if I'm doing a bunch of cleans, I prefer not to have the bell resting on my sweaty arm in the catch position.
I've searched your videos for a bottoms up shoulder press and not found one. Was hoping this new video might address the proper Mark Wildman technique for a press.
Perhaps I'll get an answer this time if you have a moment Mark - where were you when you shot this video? It's beautiful and I want to mountain bike and kettlebell there! Thank you
Thanks Mark! I love doing kettlebell Bottoms Up presses for the very reason you pointed out - awesome grip training! The heaviest I've gone is 20 kg both sides... I'm curious if you or any of your followers have done a heavier Bell... it'd be cool if you posted a contest with some of the various implements! I have maces Club Bells and of course kettlebells and you've been a huge influence on my training! And speaking of macebell, I developed a cool little sequence and I'd love to share with you to get your thoughts and I have a feeling you'll like it and how cool would that be if you chose to implement it in your training! How can I send you a video of me doing this exercise with the mace? I'll keep the video under 2 1/2 minutes...
Between bottom up kettlebells and towel pull ups, grip strength will be astronomical. Thanks for this video I am starting out with kettlebells partly to strengthen grip. This also helps since there is a worldwide shortage of kettlebells. I just watched the classic video of Russian paratroopers training and they were doing Hindu pushups *with their fingertips*.😱 I hope I can work up to that. BTW what kettlebell exercises work well with bottoms up kettlebells? Mostly cleans, presses, squats? I don't think it would be easy to do a snatch with this one. Thanks again
Hallo Mr. Wildman, I'd love to learning swing circle with clubbell but I have not one. So I wonder if it is an good job usino a kettlebell and stop the movement in bottom up to be stronger in my catch. What do You thin about it? Thanks You
I have been meaning to ask about the Normal grip. The weight presses and really hurts my wrist. It seems to falls right on the bone . I can not seem to find a comfortable place for the kettlebell to lay. Am I holding it wrong? Any recommendations?
if you are holding it correctly, your bone will eventually callus there and you won't feel it at all. this assumes 2 things a) you have a good kettlebell with good handle geometry and its resting on the bone, Not the wrist joint b) you are holding it with good technique. there is a reason i recommend competition bells. what bell are you using
@@MarkWildman I've been wondering about this for a while. My wrists are so much more resilient after 1.5 years of KB practice. So if you xray a KB user will they have a thicker bone in that area of the wrist? Super interesting
This is actually how I found this channel, I had pain from the rack position doing kettlebell cleans, so all I did was swing and snatch. Searching for an answer lead me to all of Mark's workouts, which was perfect for the pandemic. One thing that really worked for me that I got from a previous video was actually moving the bell with my other hand into the correct position to build that muscle memory. Even if it is a good quality bell, a smaller hardstyle bell will lay in a worse position due to the diameter. I also have a messed up wrist from an injury and repetitive use (judo) that can get really painful if the bell is not in the right position, so it forced me to get good at it. While teaching my girlfriend how to clean, since she is using smaller bells and won't be doing it as much as I am, I got her some kettlebell guards. Though it didn't take me too long for the normal discomfort to go away.
@@michelledd8423 I can't say for sure, but a bell bought at target probably does not have the best handle geometry for cleans. I could be wrong though.
Awesome bandana and dirt bike. At workouts at gym a couple years ago, 2 women were making fun of a boyfriend who competition dirt biked and called it a sport. "It's not like there's any effort. He doesn't have to peddle or anything." LOL. Squats, pushups and rows with a couple hundred pounds.
You can kettlebell with it... so far... not a fan of the app. Maybe I just don’t understand it yet. Garmin app way better, but garmin watch is terrible at tracking kettlebell heart ratevariations
I've heard any wrist worn optical sensor based tech might give false HR reading, something to do with blood flow to and from the hands when those are tasked with excessive gripping, such as during cycling, holding weights while doing strength workouts, etc. Guess it messes up HR reading when gripping too tight? Why I've gone back to wearing chest strap (EKG based, not optical), if I really need to see accurate HR monitoring.
Since this is the most recent kettlebell video, I’ll ask here. I’ve been having trouble learning technique for cleans with 35lbs but can properly do single and two handed swings with 35lbs with it still being challenging. Should I stay at 35lbs with cleans or do cleans with 25lbs while continuing my 35lbs swing progression?
I would always use a lighter weight when learning or perfecting a technique. The only issue, especially in the case of cleans, is a smaller weight (if not comp style bells) will change the contact point on your wrist and potentially cause pain. I agree that you should search for Mark's clean videos (or others on YT as well). How I got my girlfriend started is I had her use both hands to put the bell in a good rack position and start a set of swings from there until she got comfortable with it. You can then practice dead cleans using the second hand as support and then ramp it up from there. If you can perform it well with the lighter weight, start some volume cycles then lead into density cycles until the higher weight is easy. Hope this helps.
How heavy is a sword Compared to a club? Now I’m curious… Edit: 45min down the rabbit hole and it seems that an average of 2-3lbs for a single handed sword, cross-culturally. 2-4lbs for two handed swords. But, that's from the internet and I have no experience with swords.
It's so frustrating to watch you because you're always ALMOST right. You seem like you're such a better source of information than 99% of other fitness people but you just never quite hit the nail on the head. Nothing in this video is "wrong" per se but moreso than making a weight feel harder, a Bottoms-up bell is a drill to improve rack position. If you have a perfect rack (Bottoms-up or otherwise) your forearm is vertical and elbow is beneath the wrist. It is impossible to not be in this perfect position when holding a heavy enough bell Bottoms-up. It trains the stability of your rack so you can take those skills and apply them to your standard position, there by increasing the amount of weight you can hold or press.
Bottoms up presses with light KBs are great for rock climbers. I use it with the kids I coach. I improves grip endurance, strengthens the hand extensors and counters the pull movements from climbing.
Also arm wrestling
The real reason; it looks cool.
Better shorter answer
Exactly
If Mark ever redesigns his logo, it should be an artist rendering of a kettlebell wearing a kerchief with the MW clubs logo in the center. 😁👍🏼
I like doing slow bottoms up presses with a light weight after doing a workout of heavy presses or jerks, it seems to make my shoulders feel good.
HE IS OUT IN THE WILD. LIKE A WILDMAN
This exercice is majestic
Grip strength is an important predictor of survival for all reasons.
Just listening to the videos while swinging is already motivation thanks
In my kiddie-pool level of kettlebellism, I use the bottoms-up mode in a lightweight four-part warmup for the Snatch.
-straight arm pendulum with hip snap,
-straight arm pendulum with hip snap, bring shoulder back with slight bend in elbow
-straight arm pendulum with hip snap, bring shoulder back with slight bend in elbow, kettlebell weightless to top & momentarily hold bottoms-up
-straight arm pendulum with hip snap, bring shoulder back with slight bend in elbow, kettlebell weightless to top while hand accelerating smoothly to 3 point position
Once I get the feeling going, I go on to what, for me, is a heavy weight.
The bottoms-up mode checks whether I am getting the kettlebell moving so that it is momentarily weightless at the top.
I like the varied backgrounds. Comment left to appease the algorithm gods!
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What about the benefits to the shoulder stabilisers and neurological benefits? I find when I crush grip press the small muscles in my shoulders are working hard to make small movements to balance the bell, and I find it more neurologically taxing due to the focus required. And just more fun / interesting as well.
It's almost like those benefits gained by being forced to balance is the entire point. MW should just delete this video.
One of the reasons I like bottoms-up cleans is because I'm always trying to prevent my kettlebells from rusting as much as I can and if I'm doing a bunch of cleans, I prefer not to have the bell resting on my sweaty arm in the catch position.
I noticed that cut at 0:23 ;)
Balancing the Kettlebell while speaking freely into the camera is impressive nonetheless!
It could have been a long pause edited out. It didn't seem like he lost control.
Informative video 😊😊, nice bike.. 👍
💗💗💗 the outdoors. Thank you.
I've searched your videos for a bottoms up shoulder press and not found one. Was hoping this new video might address the proper Mark Wildman technique for a press.
Agreed, video needs more bottoms up press and holds and walks.
Eid Mubarak mark 🤗
congratulations. what's for dinner? you must have been doing your training an hour before sunset this whole last month
I love bottoms up for improving shoulder health.
Phenomenal 👍👍 thanks.
Resting on tendons TENDS to cause problems. So, TENDONCY? 😆😆😆
Perhaps I'll get an answer this time if you have a moment Mark - where were you when you shot this video? It's beautiful and I want to mountain bike and kettlebell there! Thank you
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Thanks Mark! I love doing kettlebell Bottoms Up presses for the very reason you pointed out - awesome grip training! The heaviest I've gone is 20 kg both sides... I'm curious if you or any of your followers have done a heavier Bell... it'd be cool if you posted a contest with some of the various implements! I have maces Club Bells and of course kettlebells and you've been a huge influence on my training! And speaking of macebell, I developed a cool little sequence and I'd love to share with you to get your thoughts and I have a feeling you'll like it and how cool would that be if you chose to implement it in your training! How can I send you a video of me doing this exercise with the mace? I'll keep the video under 2 1/2 minutes...
Between bottom up kettlebells and towel pull ups, grip strength will be astronomical. Thanks for this video I am starting out with kettlebells partly to strengthen grip. This also helps since there is a worldwide shortage of kettlebells. I just watched the classic video of Russian paratroopers training and they were doing Hindu pushups *with their fingertips*.😱 I hope I can work up to that.
BTW what kettlebell exercises work well with bottoms up kettlebells? Mostly cleans, presses, squats? I don't think it would be easy to do a snatch with this one. Thanks again
I have like a 204 pound grip but it struggle with a 35 lbs kettlebell
Hallo Mr. Wildman, I'd love to learning swing circle with clubbell but I have not one. So I wonder if it is an good job usino a kettlebell and stop the movement in bottom up to be stronger in my catch. What do You thin about it? Thanks You
I have been meaning to ask about the Normal grip. The weight presses and really hurts my wrist. It seems to falls right on the bone . I can not seem to find a comfortable place for the kettlebell to lay. Am I holding it wrong? Any recommendations?
if you are holding it correctly, your bone will eventually callus there and you won't feel it at all. this assumes 2 things
a) you have a good kettlebell with good handle geometry and its resting on the bone, Not the wrist joint
b) you are holding it with good technique.
there is a reason i recommend competition bells. what bell are you using
@@MarkWildman I've been wondering about this for a while. My wrists are so much more resilient after 1.5 years of KB practice. So if you xray a KB user will they have a thicker bone in that area of the wrist? Super interesting
This is actually how I found this channel, I had pain from the rack position doing kettlebell cleans, so all I did was swing and snatch. Searching for an answer lead me to all of Mark's workouts, which was perfect for the pandemic. One thing that really worked for me that I got from a previous video was actually moving the bell with my other hand into the correct position to build that muscle memory. Even if it is a good quality bell, a smaller hardstyle bell will lay in a worse position due to the diameter. I also have a messed up wrist from an injury and repetitive use (judo) that can get really painful if the bell is not in the right position, so it forced me to get good at it. While teaching my girlfriend how to clean, since she is using smaller bells and won't be doing it as much as I am, I got her some kettlebell guards. Though it didn't take me too long for the normal discomfort to go away.
@@MarkWildman I just bought what I found at target. I'm not sure of the name. I will need to look into the type of bell I have
@@michelledd8423 I can't say for sure, but a bell bought at target probably does not have the best handle geometry for cleans. I could be wrong though.
Awesome bandana and dirt bike. At workouts at gym a couple years ago, 2 women were making fun of a boyfriend who competition dirt biked and called it a sport. "It's not like there's any effort. He doesn't have to peddle or anything." LOL. Squats, pushups and rows with a couple hundred pounds.
Dirt biking is up there for physical demand. People who don’t know, just don’t know how hard 10 miles on a dirt bike Truly is.
Ok this is silly but first view🤗
you win for today
Is that a Woop band?
Yes
@@MarkWildman Wanted to ask the same thing. Do you like it?
You can kettlebell with it... so far... not a fan of the app. Maybe I just don’t understand it yet. Garmin app way better, but garmin watch is terrible at tracking kettlebell heart ratevariations
@@MarkWildman Interesting. Thanks!
I've heard any wrist worn optical sensor based tech might give false HR reading, something to do with blood flow to and from the hands when those are tasked with excessive gripping, such as during cycling, holding weights while doing strength workouts, etc. Guess it messes up HR reading when gripping too tight? Why I've gone back to wearing chest strap (EKG based, not optical), if I really need to see accurate HR monitoring.
Since this is the most recent kettlebell video, I’ll ask here. I’ve been having trouble learning technique for cleans with 35lbs but can properly do single and two handed swings with 35lbs with it still being challenging. Should I stay at 35lbs with cleans or do cleans with 25lbs while continuing my 35lbs swing progression?
IMO it has less to do with weight than technique. If you haven't already, go to Mark's videos on cleans.
I would always use a lighter weight when learning or perfecting a technique. The only issue, especially in the case of cleans, is a smaller weight (if not comp style bells) will change the contact point on your wrist and potentially cause pain. I agree that you should search for Mark's clean videos (or others on YT as well). How I got my girlfriend started is I had her use both hands to put the bell in a good rack position and start a set of swings from there until she got comfortable with it. You can then practice dead cleans using the second hand as support and then ramp it up from there. If you can perform it well with the lighter weight, start some volume cycles then lead into density cycles until the higher weight is easy. Hope this helps.
@@cucciafr68
This has helped me so much!
@@caesarshotdogchampion8738 Glad to hear it
Because you can 😂
How heavy is a sword Compared to a club? Now I’m curious…
Edit: 45min down the rabbit hole and it seems that an average of 2-3lbs for a single handed sword, cross-culturally. 2-4lbs for two handed swords. But, that's from the internet and I have no experience with swords.
True
Video need some bottoms up holds and walks, not just swings.
Mr Miyagi's got nothing on you!
Yes you can master one piece of equipment if you don’t have too many instead of being a ‘Jack of all trades’ yet master of none
It's so frustrating to watch you because you're always ALMOST right. You seem like you're such a better source of information than 99% of other fitness people but you just never quite hit the nail on the head.
Nothing in this video is "wrong" per se but moreso than making a weight feel harder, a Bottoms-up bell is a drill to improve rack position. If you have a perfect rack (Bottoms-up or otherwise) your forearm is vertical and elbow is beneath the wrist. It is impossible to not be in this perfect position when holding a heavy enough bell Bottoms-up. It trains the stability of your rack so you can take those skills and apply them to your standard position, there by increasing the amount of weight you can hold or press.