Those distinctions between the masculine and feminine words for "rock" only exist in Attic Greek. The New testament was written in Koine Greek where those distinctions do not exist. If you want to know more about the Catholic answer to your particular objection, please visit catholic dot com and type "peter the rock" into the search engine. You will find a wealth of material on this.
It was after being kicked out of my evangelical church for holding views that were "too Catholic, based on my understanding of Matthew 16:13-19 and John's Bread of Life discourse in John 6 and other texts. Since I was told my Scripture interpretations were "too Catholic", I began to investigate Catholic teaching and discovered I really was Catholic, BUT I took a couple of years to read the writings of the early Church Fathers and study Church History, including Eusebius' History of the Church.
Are you saying Peter, an apostle chosen by Christ, and who wrote at least two letters in the Bible is Satan? That doesn't follow. "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again, strengthen your brethren" (Luke 22:31-32)
Actually, he's not asking Peter (or Satan for that matter) to physically step behind him. He is rebuking Satan for placing doubt in Peter's mind about the resurrection, i.e. within Peter, get thee (Satan) behind me.
David, Paul, and Peter seem to disagree Psalm 18:2 2 The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. 1 Corinthians 10:4 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 1 Peter 1:1 1 Peter, an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Just like Paul 1 Peter 2:6 6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. 1 Peter 2:8 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
Thank you very much for this video. Connecting St. Peter as Jesus' rock-church is an immensely appetizing verse of Gospel. Love Christ's blessing to the key-gifted!
What would our life be if our Lord Jesus Christ don't establish His own Church??? There are 35,000 denominations across the globe. And all of them claimed that they are the truth. Let us pray to God that hope everybody still be united even though we have differences in our faith. May God reunites us in His Glory to open the minds and the hearts of all Christians to seek the truth that could be found only in His infallible Holy Catholic Church, from now and forever... Amen...
PROTESTANT THESIS: Mathew 16:18 does NOT support the claim that the Church is founded on St. Peter: The Roman Catholic Church claims its spiritual apostolic authority and the Primacy of Peter (L. Primatum Petri) derive from a passage in The Gospel according to Mathhew 16:18 where at Philipi Casarea Christ asks Peter: “Whom do you think I am.” Peter immediately replies: “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God.” At this point, Christ blesses Peter and says that flesh has not revealed this to him (to Peter)-but rather “my Father who is in Heaven.” Christ then proclaims: “Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church-and the gates of Hades (i.e. Hell) shall not prevail against it.” Roman Catholics interpret this passage to mean Christ was calling Peter “the rock” upon whom He would build His Church. However, according to the Protestant view-which is correct in its Biblical exegesis-Christ was referring not to Peter-but to Himself as The Rock (an image which relates to other passages in the Old and New Testaments which prefigure the eternal person of Christ). In other words, Christ was telling Peter that upon such Faith, He would build His church. When Christ said the words “upon this rock” we reasonably infer that He was pointing to Himself-and not to Peter. If Christ had meant that Peter was “The Rock” Christ would have clearly articulated this idea by saying: “Thou art Peter and upon THEE I will build my Church.” The notion that in Matthew 16:18 Christ was referring to Himself as The Rock (cornerstone of his future Church) and to Faith as the foundation of His Church is further supported by the following FACTS: (1) In Matthew 16:18 Peter is distinguished as a separate kind of rock-separate from Christ. (2) Peter himself refers to Christ as the Rock and Chief Cornerstone who fulfills prophecies in The Book of Isaiah and the Book of Psalms. (3) In The Old Testament prophetic Book of Daniel-Daniel, the young Hebrew captive at the Court of King Nebuchadnezzar of ancient Babylon-refers to a statue whose successive parts refer to the future kingdoms of this world (Babylon: head of gold; Persia: chest and arms of silver; Greece of Alexander the Great: belly and thighs of bronze; Imperial Rome: legs of iron; Restored Roman Empire: feet of clay mixed with iron). A Rock then comes down from Heaven (Christ at His Second Coming) and smashes the feet of the statue, causing it to crash-meaning that “the kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdom of our God and of His Christ.” (4) In the Book of Exodus, the rock that Moses struck in the wilderness to give water to the wandering thirsty Israelites, was a prefigurative symbol of Christ (who gives living water to all believers in Him). (5) Many other places in the Old Testament refer to God as the Rock. In many of its beliefs and practices, the Roman Catholic Church has twisted Scriptures to its own purposes. It always tries to substitute worship of the human, thereby marginalizing worship of Christ. It exalts or inflates the human while detracting from the worshiper's focus on God. Examples are: Mariology. Mary as Co-Redemptrix and Regina Coeli. The Doctrine of Petrine Supremacy (L. Primatum Petri). The Doctrines of the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Heavenly Assumption of Mary. The Rosary. "Princes" of the church-etc. etc. ad nauseam. Clarke's Commentary on the Bible: Upon this very rock, επι ταυτη τη πετρα - this true confession of thine - that I am The Messiah, that am come to reveal and communicate The Living God, that the dead, lost world may be saved - upon this very rock, myself, thus confessed (alluding probably to Psalm 118:22, The Stone which the builders rejected is become the Head-Stone of the Corner: and to Isaiah 28:16, Behold I lay a Stone in Zion for a Foundation) - will I build my Church, μου την εκκλησιαν, my assembly, or congregation, i.e. of persons who are made partakers of this precious faith. That Peter is not designed in our Lord's words must be evident to all who are not blinded by prejudice. Peter was only one of the builders in this sacred edifice, Ephesians 2:20 who himself tells us, (with the rest of the believers), was built on this living foundation stone: 1 Peter 2:4, 1 Peter 2:5, therefore Jesus Christ did not say, on thee, Peter, will I build my Church, but changes immediately the expression, and says, upon that very rock, επι ταυτη τη πετρα, to show that he neither addressed Peter, nor any other of the apostles. So, the supremacy of Peter, and the infallibility of the Church of Rome, must be sought in some other scripture, for they certainly are not to be found in this. On the meaning of the word Church, see at the conclusion of this chapter. Peter's own references to Christ as the Rock also refute the claims of the Roman Catholic Church that St. Peter was "the rock": In 1 Peter 2, Peter himself refers to CHRIST as the Rock: And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For this is contained in Scripture: “Behold, I lay in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner stone, And he who believes in Him will not be disappointed.” [Isaiah 28:16] 7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, “The stone which the builders rejected, This became the very corner stone,” [Psalm 118:22] 8 and, “A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense”; [Isaiah 8:14] for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed. 1 Peter 2:4-8 So, here Peter refers to Isaiah and the Psalms that point to a particular Rock or Stone, which is Jesus--not Peter. It is Jesus who is the Chief Cornerstone for the foundation of the church. It is Jesus on whom we must believe. It was Jesus who was rejected. And it was Jesus who was a stone of stumbling to the Jews of His time. John 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. THE OLD TESTAMENT CLEARLY FORESHADOWED REFERENCES TO CHRIST AS THE ROCK: In Nebuchadnezzar's dream, recorded in Daniel chapter 2, there is a "a stone was cut out without hands" which struck the statue, which represented the four world empires and then itself became a kingdom that filled the earth. And it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth... Daniel 2:34-35. In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.” Daniel 2:44-45 So, in Nebuchadnezzar's dream, the foreshadowed figure of Jesus Christ is the ROCK.
You hinted at it, but didn't actually rebut the Πέτρος/πέτρᾳ argument. If Peter is the foundation of the church, then why did Christ use two different vocables (with distinct meanings), one to describe Peter and the other the foundation of the church?
God Built His Church on the Rock .... Christ Jesus Jesus spoke with His disciples about building on a firm rock. “When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, ‘Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?’ So they said, ‘Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.’ He said to them, ‘But who do you say that I am?’ ” (Matthew 16:13-15). Notice the response of one Simon Peter: “ ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ Jesus answered and said to him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven’ ” (vv. 16, 17). The term “Bar” in this name means “son of.” So his name is Simon, son of Jonah. Peter was a nickname given to Simon by Jesus, and it means “stone” (see John 1:40-42). This is the type of rock you would pick up and throw. Christ next said something: “I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). What “rock” is Jesus speaking about upon which He would build His church? It certainly cannot be Peter, the little stone, since a few verses later in this chapter Jesus called Peter “Satan” (see verse 23). Peter has problems and or gets put in his place even by Paul. A foundation must be perfect from the start to build a true church. The rock on which the church is built is found in Peter’s declaration that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God. It is upon Jesus, the Word of God made manifest (John 1:1), that the church was founded. It is in Him that the church finds a sure foundation against which the forces of hell will not overcome. The Scriptures are the basis of God’s true church. Built Christ the Rock I stand all other ground is sinking.... why build on imperfect man ..when Jesus is the only one to take away sin ... because He is sinless .. for more info: www.amazingfacts.org/…/magazine/id/11837/t/a-solid-f…
typical protestant ignorance. Peter literally means large immovable rock.....not little stone. Read the Greek. Lithio means little stone. Lithio is the Greek word used when Satan tells Jesus to command these stones to turn to bread. Also the Greek translates literally as This Very Rock (Peter). His first name Simon, meant a Reed bent by the wind. His new name Kephas means large immovable rock.
+Faith In Silver Peter means a stone, not a large immovable rock. The Bible interprets itself. John 1:42 "And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. Jesus Christ is the rock. 1 Cor 10:4 "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." 1 Cor 3:11 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ." 1 Peter 2:5-6 "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. {2:6} Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded."
Rick Jacoby not even close. The bible does Not self interpret. ..it requires interpretation. 2 Pet 1:20. The Greek and aramaic both prove that Jesus makes Peter the rock of the church. That does not detract from Jesus being the rock of our salvation. The apostles and church fathers all knew that Peter is the Rock of Matt 16 Tertullian "Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called ‘the rock on which the Church would be built’ [Matt. 16:18] with the power of ‘loosing and binding in heaven and on earth’ [Matt. 16:19]?" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 22 [A.D. 200]). "[T]he Lord said to Peter, ‘On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18-19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the manifest intent of the Lord when he conferred this personally upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys" (Modesty 21:9-10 [A.D. 220]). The Letter of Clement to James "Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter" (Letter of Clement to James 2 [A.D. 221]). The Clementine Homilies "[Simon Peter said to Simon Magus in Rome:] ‘For you now stand in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church’ [Matt. 16:18]" (Clementine Homilies 17:19 [A.D. 221]).
Rick Jacoby ◄ 2786. Képhas ► Strong's Concordance Képhas: "a rock," Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter Original Word: Κηφᾶς, ᾶ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: Képhas Phonetic Spelling: (kay-fas') Short Definition: Cephas Definition: Cephas (Aramaic for rock), the new name given to Simon Peter, the apostle. NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin of Aramaic origin Definition "a rock," Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter
Faith In Silver I just gave you the verse in John that tells you what the interpretation is. It tells you right in the text the interpretation is stone. The scripture supersedes concordances and lexicons and so forth. Where there is a disagreement, the scripture trumps. Not only that but other scriptures agree with this as I've shown you with 1 Cor 3, 10, and 1 Peter.
Jimmy says around 5 mins: "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound on heaven, whatever will be loosed on earth will be loosed in heaven; that's part of what you can do if you have the keys to kingdom". No doubt that Matt 16:18 does refer to Peter... But is it accurate to say that Peter had some sort of higher authority that the other apostles? Especially as they too were given the same authority to bind and loose? After all, doesn't John Chysostom also say that the apostle John had the keys of the kingdom too?
+Jack Newton There are several episodes that imply Peter is higher up the chain than the other apostles. How about in John, where Peter is singled out and told to feed the sheep (the other apostles?) and the lambs (the people?)? John 21:15 And when they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, Simon, son of John, dost thou care for me more than these others? Yes, Lord, he told him, thou knowest well that I love thee. And he said to him, Feed my lambs. 16 And again, a second time, he asked him, Simon, son of John, dost thou care for me? Yes, Lord, he told him, thou knowest well that I love thee. He said to him, Tend my shearlings.[2] 17 Then he asked him a third question, Simon, son of John, dost thou love me? Peter was deeply moved when he was asked a third time, Dost thou love me? and said to him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou canst tell that I love thee. Jesus said to him, Feed my sheep. You see, Jesus admits he cares for Peter "more than these others" as well. Then there is the episode in Luke where Jesus tells Peter he is to strengthen his brothers (or "support the brethren"). That implies Peter has some greater responsibility over the others. Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has claimed power over you all, so that he can sift you like wheat: 32 but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith may not fail; when, after a while, thou hast come back to me, it is for thee to be the support of thy brethren. Does that make sense?
Jerome says: If the question is concerning authority, the world is greater than the city. Wherever there has been a bishop, whether at Rome, or Eugubium, or Constantinople, or Rhegium, or Alexandria, he is of the same dignity and priesthood
When Christ refers to building his Church on Peter here, the Greek word is "ekklesia," translating not just as "church" but more strictly as "assembly" or even "community." So not a literal building. "Temple" and the building "Church" are sort of the same word, but "temple" is from the Latin "templum" and "church" is from Greek "kyriakon." Etymologically they mean about the same thing.
the church is built on Christ - why debate that point so much - catholic means universal - peter is an important character in the protestant curch as well - he reflects a person who struggles a lot - and christ still loves him and excepts him
actually no it doesn't mention that Peter is the rock at all. read the verses before and after. 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. since you don't know Caesarea Philippi is a ancient city for Rome built out of rock, it's Nick name is the "gateway to Hades" our gate of hell. Jesus wasn't calling prettier his rock, he was simply stating that in that city he would have a great multitude Assemble and start to truly spread his gospel and instruct people on how to get into heaven. the Catholic Church is utterly wrong when it comes to understanding scriptures. Peter is by no way the foundation of the church/assembly of followers. if he was then Jesus wouldn't say this right after to Peter and the rest of his people. 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Before I say this, let me distance myself being seen as if I am making an argument against the logic of this video. That said, I wonder how the Greek figures into this discussion, because Jesus there says, "you are Peter," but it is not a definite (i.e. in Ancient Greek, if you're naming someone, you use a definite "o Socrates..."), but συ ει πετρος, which is a general statement. Can this be included in the explanation? Thanks.
Petra was the word used by Christ when referring to the rock upon which the church was built. He called Peter Petros because Peter is a man, and so the ending needed to be changed. If Protestants are correct then Matt 16:18 is the ONLY place EVER in the history of the Greek language where Petros means stone. The Greek word for stone used every other place in the New Testament is Lethos.
I'm a bit confused. If people keep on saying 'kepha,' shouldn't his name be 'Kepha' instead of 'Peter'? I believe for a fact that there are reasons why the Bible was written in different languages, obviously because to understand it, we need to get to the roots. But I want to know: where can I confirm the fact that Matthew was written in Aramaic rather than Greek?
also Matt. 18:2. The same is taught by the parable when Christ in the same dispute concerning the kingdom places a little child in the midst, signifying that among ministers there is not to be sovereignty, just as a child neither takes nor seeks sovereignty for himself. I just looking for the truth not trying to prove anyone wrong.
***** lol. in the bible never mentioned 6pm or any time but it mentioned that the crucification it happened on passover that means on the Nisan Month = spring season that means ( March-April ) actually would be 19:15/ 19:45 PM torahcalendar.com/SUNSET.asp
Dear ***** Time and hours depends on the latitude and seasons. For example I Live in Norway, in summertime Sunrise Time its around 05:00 in the morning and sunset around 22 hours. Answering you question, The Bible Mentioned on Matthew 28:1 (NIV) ,John 20:1 ; " After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb." It says Dawn = the first appearance of light in the sky before sunrise of Sunday.
Carlos Carpio No record of it directly from Peter as far as I know. But Christians started to separate themselves from the Jews in the Council of Jerusalem with issue of Circumcision from the Judaizers. What I am sure of is Sunday = Lord's day = the day that Jesus rose from the dead. There are also bible passages that shows that Sunday or First day of the week is the day of worship for early Christians. Act 20:7 "And on the first day (Sunday) of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread". Break of the Bread is the Eucharist or Mass. 1 Corinthians 16:2 “On the first day (Sunday) of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.” Colossians 2:16 “Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day” This words from Paul speaks to gentiles who are not required by Paul or Church to practice refraining from eating foods unclean to Jews or to respect the Sabbath day.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Salvation is Jesus Christ plus and minus nothing. If your trusting in keeping the sacraments of the Catholic Church to get you to Heaven you will surely end up in Hell. Read your Bible and stop listening to false teachers.
What would our life be if our Lord Jesus Christ don't establish His own Church??? There are 35,000 denominations across the globe. And all of them claimed that they are the truth. Let us pray to God that hope everybody still be united even though we have differences in our faith. May God reunites us in His Glory to open the minds and the hearts of all Christians to seek the truth that could be found only in His infallible Holy Catholic Church, from now and forever... Amen...
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I'm converting to Catholic from baptised.
I can't waite to be in the church from Christ our blessed lord!
Those distinctions between the masculine and feminine words for "rock" only exist in Attic Greek. The New testament was written in Koine Greek where those distinctions do not exist. If you want to know more about the Catholic answer to your particular objection, please visit catholic dot com and type "peter the rock" into the search engine. You will find a wealth of material on this.
It was after being kicked out of my evangelical church for holding views that were "too Catholic, based on my understanding of Matthew 16:13-19 and John's Bread of Life discourse in John 6 and other texts. Since I was told my Scripture interpretations were "too Catholic", I began to investigate Catholic teaching and discovered I really was Catholic, BUT I took a couple of years to read the writings of the early Church Fathers and study Church History, including Eusebius' History of the Church.
Yes. Praise God for this video. Jesus Christ founded the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Amen!
+rosegarden23 But God set a Leader and Key holder over his Church. You can't disregard The Church. It was established by and passed down by Jesus.
Are you saying Peter, an apostle chosen by Christ, and who wrote at least two letters in the Bible is Satan? That doesn't follow. "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again, strengthen your brethren" (Luke 22:31-32)
Jimmy Akin é um dos meus apologistas católicos favoritos. Obrigado pelo excelente trabalho :D
Isn't the Catholic church awesome?? I love my Catholic faith!
Actually, he's not asking Peter (or Satan for that matter) to physically step behind him. He is rebuking Satan for placing doubt in Peter's mind about the resurrection, i.e. within Peter, get thee (Satan) behind me.
I love these little segments; thank you for posting them. As a bonus, they give me faces to put on Jimmy and Patrick! (This Patrick, anyway.)
David, Paul, and Peter seem to disagree
Psalm 18:2
2 The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
1 Corinthians 10:4
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
1 Peter 1:1
1 Peter, an APOSTLE of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Just like Paul
1 Peter 2:6
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1 Peter 2:8
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
Thank you very much for this video. Connecting St. Peter as Jesus' rock-church is an immensely appetizing verse of Gospel. Love Christ's blessing to the key-gifted!
Jesus built his church on earth according to His word, that is, the Word of God.
What would our life be if our Lord Jesus Christ don't establish His own Church??? There are 35,000 denominations across the globe. And all of them claimed that they are the truth. Let us pray to God that hope everybody still be united even though we have differences in our faith. May God reunites us in His Glory to open the minds and the hearts of all Christians to seek the truth that could be found only in His infallible Holy Catholic Church, from now and forever... Amen...
PROTESTANT THESIS: Mathew 16:18 does NOT support the claim that the Church is founded on St. Peter:
The Roman Catholic Church claims its spiritual apostolic authority and the Primacy of Peter (L. Primatum Petri) derive from a passage in The Gospel according to Mathhew 16:18 where at Philipi Casarea Christ asks Peter: “Whom do you think I am.”
Peter immediately replies: “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God.” At this point, Christ blesses Peter and says that flesh has not revealed this to him (to Peter)-but rather “my Father who is in Heaven.”
Christ then proclaims:
“Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church-and the gates of Hades (i.e. Hell) shall not prevail against it.”
Roman Catholics interpret this passage to mean Christ was calling Peter “the rock” upon whom He would build His Church.
However, according to the Protestant view-which is correct in its Biblical exegesis-Christ was referring not to Peter-but to Himself as The Rock (an image which relates to other passages in the Old and New Testaments which prefigure the eternal person of Christ). In other words, Christ was telling Peter that upon such Faith, He would build His church. When Christ said the words “upon this rock” we reasonably infer that He was pointing to Himself-and not to Peter. If Christ had meant that Peter was “The Rock” Christ would have clearly articulated this idea by saying: “Thou art Peter and upon THEE I will build my Church.”
The notion that in Matthew 16:18 Christ was referring to Himself as The Rock (cornerstone of his future Church) and to Faith as the foundation of His Church is further supported by the following FACTS:
(1) In Matthew 16:18 Peter is distinguished as a separate kind of rock-separate from Christ.
(2) Peter himself refers to Christ as the Rock and Chief Cornerstone who fulfills prophecies in The Book of Isaiah and the Book of Psalms.
(3) In The Old Testament prophetic Book of Daniel-Daniel, the young Hebrew captive at the Court of King Nebuchadnezzar of ancient Babylon-refers to a statue whose successive parts refer to the future kingdoms of this world (Babylon: head of gold; Persia: chest and arms of silver; Greece of Alexander the Great: belly and thighs of bronze; Imperial Rome: legs of iron; Restored Roman Empire: feet of clay mixed with iron). A Rock then comes down from Heaven (Christ at His Second Coming) and smashes the feet of the statue, causing it to crash-meaning that “the kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdom of our God and of His Christ.”
(4) In the Book of Exodus, the rock that Moses struck in the wilderness to give water to the wandering thirsty Israelites, was a prefigurative symbol of Christ (who gives living water to all believers in Him).
(5) Many other places in the Old Testament refer to God as the Rock.
In many of its beliefs and practices, the Roman Catholic Church has twisted Scriptures to its own purposes. It always tries to substitute worship of the human, thereby marginalizing worship of Christ. It exalts or inflates the human while detracting from the worshiper's focus on God. Examples are: Mariology. Mary as Co-Redemptrix and Regina Coeli. The Doctrine of Petrine Supremacy (L. Primatum Petri). The Doctrines of the Immaculate Conception of Mary and Heavenly Assumption of Mary. The Rosary. "Princes" of the church-etc. etc. ad nauseam.
Clarke's Commentary on the Bible:
Upon this very rock, επι ταυτη τη πετρα - this true confession of thine - that I am The Messiah, that am come to reveal and communicate The Living God, that the dead, lost world may be saved - upon this very rock, myself, thus confessed (alluding probably to Psalm 118:22, The Stone which the builders rejected is become the Head-Stone of the Corner: and to Isaiah 28:16, Behold I lay a Stone in Zion for a Foundation) - will I build my Church, μου την εκκλησιαν, my assembly, or congregation, i.e. of persons who are made partakers of this precious faith. That Peter is not designed in our Lord's words must be evident to all who are not blinded by prejudice. Peter was only one of the builders in this sacred edifice, Ephesians 2:20 who himself tells us, (with the rest of the believers), was built on this living foundation stone: 1 Peter 2:4, 1 Peter 2:5, therefore Jesus Christ did not say, on thee, Peter, will I build my Church, but changes immediately the expression, and says, upon that very rock, επι ταυτη τη πετρα, to show that he neither addressed Peter, nor any other of the apostles. So, the supremacy of Peter, and the infallibility of the Church of Rome, must be sought in some other scripture, for they certainly are not to be found in this. On the meaning of the word Church, see at the conclusion of this chapter.
Peter's own references to Christ as the Rock also refute the claims of the Roman Catholic Church that St. Peter was "the rock":
In 1 Peter 2, Peter himself refers to CHRIST as the Rock:
And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For this is contained in Scripture:
“Behold, I lay in Zion a choice stone, a precious corner stone, And he who believes in Him will not be disappointed.” [Isaiah 28:16]
7 This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve,
“The stone which the builders rejected, This became the very corner stone,” [Psalm 118:22]
8 and,
“A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense”; [Isaiah 8:14]
for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed. 1 Peter 2:4-8
So, here Peter refers to Isaiah and the Psalms that point to a particular Rock or Stone, which is Jesus--not Peter. It is Jesus who is the Chief Cornerstone for the foundation of the church. It is Jesus on whom we must believe. It was Jesus who was rejected. And it was Jesus who was a stone of stumbling to the Jews of His time.
John 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.
THE OLD TESTAMENT CLEARLY FORESHADOWED REFERENCES TO CHRIST AS THE ROCK:
In Nebuchadnezzar's dream, recorded in Daniel chapter 2, there is a "a stone was cut out without hands" which struck the statue, which represented the four world empires and then itself became a kingdom that filled the earth.
And it struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and crushed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were crushed all at the same time and became like chaff from the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them was found. But the stone that struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth... Daniel 2:34-35.
In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which will never be destroyed, and that kingdom will not be left for another people; it will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, but it will itself endure forever. 45 Inasmuch as you saw that a stone was cut out of the mountain without hands and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver and the gold, the great God has made known to the king what will take place in the future; so the dream is true and its interpretation is trustworthy.” Daniel 2:44-45
So, in Nebuchadnezzar's dream, the foreshadowed figure of Jesus Christ is the ROCK.
Remember never forget the 3 main rules in anything. Context context context.
You hinted at it, but didn't actually rebut the Πέτρος/πέτρᾳ argument. If Peter is the foundation of the church, then why did Christ use two different vocables (with distinct meanings), one to describe Peter and the other the foundation of the church?
Wow, that's beautiful! :)
God bless you!
God Built His Church on the Rock .... Christ Jesus
Jesus spoke with His disciples about building on a firm rock. “When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, ‘Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?’ So they said, ‘Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.’ He said to them, ‘But who do you say that I am?’ ” (Matthew 16:13-15).
Notice the response of one Simon Peter: “ ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ Jesus answered and said to him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven’ ” (vv. 16, 17). The term “Bar” in this name means “son of.” So his name is Simon, son of Jonah. Peter was a nickname given to Simon by Jesus, and it means “stone” (see John 1:40-42). This is the type of rock you would pick up and throw.
Christ next said something: “I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it” (Matthew 16:18). What “rock” is Jesus speaking about upon which He would build His church? It certainly cannot be Peter, the little stone, since a few verses later in this chapter Jesus called Peter “Satan” (see verse 23). Peter has problems and or gets put in his place even by Paul.
A foundation must be perfect from the start to build a true church.
The rock on which the church is built is found in Peter’s declaration that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God. It is upon Jesus, the Word of God made manifest (John 1:1), that the church was founded. It is in Him that the church finds a sure foundation against which the forces of hell will not overcome. The Scriptures are the basis of God’s true church.
Built Christ the Rock I stand all other ground is sinking.... why build on imperfect man ..when Jesus is the only one to take away sin ... because He is sinless .. for more info: www.amazingfacts.org/…/magazine/id/11837/t/a-solid-f…
typical protestant ignorance. Peter literally means large immovable rock.....not little stone. Read the Greek. Lithio means little stone. Lithio is the Greek word used when Satan tells Jesus to command these stones to turn to bread. Also the Greek translates literally as This Very Rock (Peter). His first name Simon, meant a Reed bent by the wind. His new name Kephas means large immovable rock.
+Faith In Silver Peter means a stone, not a large immovable rock. The Bible interprets itself.
John 1:42 "And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.
Jesus Christ is the rock.
1 Cor 10:4 "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."
1 Cor 3:11 "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ."
1 Peter 2:5-6 "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. {2:6} Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded."
Rick Jacoby not even close. The bible does Not self interpret. ..it requires interpretation. 2 Pet 1:20. The Greek and aramaic both prove that Jesus makes Peter the rock of the church. That does not detract from Jesus being the rock of our salvation. The apostles and church fathers all knew that Peter is the Rock of Matt 16
Tertullian
"Was anything withheld from the knowledge of Peter, who is called ‘the rock on which the Church would be built’ [Matt. 16:18] with the power of ‘loosing and binding in heaven and on earth’ [Matt. 16:19]?" (Demurrer Against the Heretics 22 [A.D. 200]).
"[T]he Lord said to Peter, ‘On this rock I will build my Church, I have given you the keys of the kingdom of heaven [and] whatever you shall have bound or loosed on earth will be bound or loosed in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18-19]. . . . What kind of man are you, subverting and changing what was the manifest intent of the Lord when he conferred this personally upon Peter? Upon you, he says, I will build my Church; and I will give to you the keys" (Modesty 21:9-10 [A.D. 220]).
The Letter of Clement to James
"Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter" (Letter of Clement to James 2 [A.D. 221]).
The Clementine Homilies
"[Simon Peter said to Simon Magus in Rome:] ‘For you now stand in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church’ [Matt. 16:18]" (Clementine Homilies 17:19 [A.D. 221]).
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Strong's Concordance
Képhas: "a rock," Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter
Original Word: Κηφᾶς, ᾶ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: Képhas
Phonetic Spelling: (kay-fas')
Short Definition: Cephas
Definition: Cephas (Aramaic for rock), the new name given to Simon Peter, the apostle.
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
of Aramaic origin
Definition
"a rock," Cephas, a name given to the apostle Peter
Faith In Silver
I just gave you the verse in John that tells you what the interpretation is. It tells you right in the text the interpretation is stone. The scripture supersedes concordances and lexicons and so forth. Where there is a disagreement, the scripture trumps. Not only that but other scriptures agree with this as I've shown you with 1 Cor 3, 10, and 1 Peter.
Jimmy says around 5 mins: "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound on heaven, whatever will be loosed on earth will be loosed in heaven; that's part of what you can do if you have the keys to kingdom".
No doubt that Matt 16:18 does refer to Peter...
But is it accurate to say that Peter had some sort of higher authority that the other apostles? Especially as they too were given the same authority to bind and loose? After all, doesn't John Chysostom also say that the apostle John had the keys of the kingdom too?
+Jack Newton There are several episodes that imply Peter is higher up the chain than the other apostles. How about in John, where Peter is singled out and told to feed the sheep (the other apostles?) and the lambs (the people?)?
John 21:15 And when they had eaten, Jesus said to Simon Peter, Simon, son of John, dost thou care for me more than these others? Yes, Lord, he told him, thou knowest well that I love thee. And he said to him, Feed my lambs. 16 And again, a second time, he asked him, Simon, son of John, dost thou care for me? Yes, Lord, he told him, thou knowest well that I love thee. He said to him, Tend my shearlings.[2] 17 Then he asked him a third question, Simon, son of John, dost thou love me? Peter was deeply moved when he was asked a third time, Dost thou love me? and said to him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou canst tell that I love thee. Jesus said to him, Feed my sheep.
You see, Jesus admits he cares for Peter "more than these others" as well.
Then there is the episode in Luke where Jesus tells Peter he is to strengthen his brothers (or "support the brethren"). That implies Peter has some greater responsibility over the others.
Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has claimed power over you all, so that he can sift you like wheat: 32 but I have prayed for thee, that thy faith may not fail; when, after a while, thou hast come back to me, it is for thee to be the support of thy brethren.
Does that make sense?
Jerome says: If the question is concerning authority, the world is greater than the city. Wherever there has been a bishop, whether at Rome, or Eugubium, or Constantinople, or Rhegium, or Alexandria, he is of the same dignity and priesthood
When Christ refers to building his Church on Peter here, the Greek word is "ekklesia," translating not just as "church" but more strictly as "assembly" or even "community." So not a literal building. "Temple" and the building "Church" are sort of the same word, but "temple" is from the Latin "templum" and "church" is from Greek "kyriakon." Etymologically they mean about the same thing.
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The problem is we translate to peter,
It’s just rock...
the church is built on Christ - why debate that point so much - catholic means universal - peter is an important character in the protestant curch as well - he reflects a person who struggles a lot - and christ still loves him and excepts him
actually no it doesn't mention that Peter is the rock at all. read the verses before and after.
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
since you don't know Caesarea Philippi is a ancient city for Rome built out of rock, it's Nick name is the "gateway to Hades" our gate of hell. Jesus wasn't calling prettier his rock, he was simply stating that in that city he would have a great multitude Assemble and start to truly spread his gospel and instruct people on how to get into heaven. the Catholic Church is utterly wrong when it comes to understanding scriptures.
Peter is by no way the foundation of the church/assembly of followers. if he was then Jesus wouldn't say this right after to Peter and the rest of his people.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Before I say this, let me distance myself being seen as if I am making an argument against the logic of this video. That said, I wonder how the Greek figures into this discussion, because Jesus there says, "you are Peter," but it is not a definite (i.e. in Ancient Greek, if you're naming someone, you use a definite "o Socrates..."), but συ ει πετρος, which is a general statement. Can this be included in the explanation? Thanks.
Petra was the word used by Christ when referring to the rock upon which the church was built. He called Peter Petros because Peter is a man, and so the ending needed to be changed. If Protestants are correct then Matt 16:18 is the ONLY place EVER in the history of the Greek language where Petros means stone. The Greek word for stone used every other place in the New Testament is Lethos.
I'm a bit confused. If people keep on saying 'kepha,' shouldn't his name be 'Kepha' instead of 'Peter'?
I believe for a fact that there are reasons why the Bible was written in different languages, obviously because to understand it, we need to get to the roots.
But I want to know: where can I confirm the fact that Matthew was written in Aramaic rather than Greek?
also Matt. 18:2. The same is taught by the parable when Christ in the same dispute concerning the kingdom places a little child in the midst, signifying that among ministers there is not to be sovereignty, just as a child neither takes nor seeks sovereignty for himself. I just looking for the truth not trying to prove anyone wrong.
Did Peter prohibited to keep the Shabbat ?
***** lol. in the bible never mentioned 6pm or any time but it mentioned that the crucification it happened on passover that means on the Nisan Month = spring season that means ( March-April ) actually would be 19:15/ 19:45 PM
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Dear ***** Time and hours depends on the latitude and seasons. For example I Live in Norway, in summertime Sunrise Time its around 05:00 in the morning and sunset around 22 hours.
Answering you question,
The Bible Mentioned on Matthew 28:1 (NIV) ,John 20:1 ; " After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb."
It says Dawn = the first appearance of light in the sky before sunrise of Sunday.
Carlos Carpio No record of it directly from Peter as far as I know. But Christians started to separate themselves from the Jews in the Council of Jerusalem with issue of Circumcision from the Judaizers. What I am sure of is Sunday = Lord's day = the day that Jesus rose from the dead. There are also bible passages that shows that Sunday or First day of the week is the day of worship for early Christians. Act 20:7 "And on the first day (Sunday) of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread". Break of the Bread is the Eucharist or Mass. 1 Corinthians 16:2 “On the first day (Sunday) of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.” Colossians 2:16 “Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day” This words from Paul speaks to gentiles who are not required by Paul or Church to practice refraining from eating foods unclean to Jews or to respect the Sabbath day.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. Salvation is Jesus Christ plus and minus nothing. If your trusting in keeping the sacraments of the Catholic Church to get you to Heaven you will surely end up in Hell. Read your Bible and stop listening to false teachers.
the rock is the holey Spirit inside Peter. People in the holey Spirit are the church.
What would our life be if our Lord Jesus Christ don't establish His own Church??? There are 35,000 denominations across the globe. And all of them claimed that they are the truth. Let us pray to God that hope everybody still be united even though we have differences in our faith. May God reunites us in His Glory to open the minds and the hearts of all Christians to seek the truth that could be found only in His infallible Holy Catholic Church, from now and forever... Amen...