Steel for Armor in Buhurt/Armored Combat

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2021
  • #Armored Combat #Steel #Armor
    Welcome to a visit to the Forge/Shop for some talk on different steel types used in Buhurt/Armored Combat, as well as some quick hammering and testing.
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Комментарии • 55

  • @SweetenMotorsports
    @SweetenMotorsports 3 года назад +15

    I'm really starting to like the design of the German/lobster tail sallet. Might look into getting one for duels.

  • @felix.der.ritter
    @felix.der.ritter 3 года назад +11

    I have a stainless steel helmet and I am Happy with it. I just got it repaired. Cause it got to many dents over the Years. For longsword duels it is okay.

    • @fardeenmirza8762
      @fardeenmirza8762 3 года назад +2

      Hii
      I am making medieval helmets, armour in india. You want to buy?

    • @TheAdmiral8799
      @TheAdmiral8799 3 месяца назад

      @@fardeenmirza8762 scam

  • @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319
    @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 3 года назад +13

    I didn't know there was so much variation in the performance of steel

    • @____________838
      @____________838 2 года назад +2

      Now get into the various knife steels…

  • @greynorth8801
    @greynorth8801 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video. I’ve been watching al or your info series and very happy with all the information so far. Thanks!

  • @JustinShaedo
    @JustinShaedo Год назад +1

    Amazing information!
    That vambrace did not seem happy after being hit..

  • @bamcorpgaming5954
    @bamcorpgaming5954 3 года назад +3

    You guys make great videos.

  • @phillipmillerd2963
    @phillipmillerd2963 3 года назад +5

    I love these videos. They are super helpful!

    • @fardeenmirza8762
      @fardeenmirza8762 3 года назад

      Hii
      I am making medieval helmets, armour in india. You want to buy?

  • @Sniperfresser
    @Sniperfresser 2 года назад +1

    Oh dammnit! Nice video.

  • @derekfish7768
    @derekfish7768 2 года назад +2

    Really appreciate you guys making content. I am still building / buying my harness. I still need greaves and a helmet. I have good mail as well

  • @AndrewMilesMurphy
    @AndrewMilesMurphy 7 месяцев назад

    Very informative, thanks

  • @boydgrandy5769
    @boydgrandy5769 5 месяцев назад

    You can stress relieve stainless steels with heat and soaking to reduce work hardening, whether from the armorer's hammer or a foe's mace, axe or polearm.
    One of the problems with many stainless and other highly alloyed steels is that at temperatures lower than 60 to 70 degrees F, they will cleave catastrophically or brittle fracture.
    Plus, like the man said, working stainless and "spring" steels is much harder than low carbon steel, which adds time to the process. Time is money.

  • @Rally_Armaments
    @Rally_Armaments 3 года назад +6

    This video should have way more views! It was very informative and helped me understand the differences between helmets in terms of quality. I'm not sure but have you made any videos discussing the differences between "gauges", such as if 14 gauge is good for a helmet and if 16 gauge is good for plate armor?

  • @elijahoconnell
    @elijahoconnell 3 года назад +3

    he do be looking like conan obrian

  • @unclebimgoldfinch5134
    @unclebimgoldfinch5134 Год назад +1

    You could work the ms sheet without heating it first then temper it later that smith seems to know some book knowledge but the practical seems lacking

  • @gavinbeaton4112
    @gavinbeaton4112 3 года назад +2

    Great video, loved the music!

  • @armoredghost1610
    @armoredghost1610 3 года назад +4

    I’m also planning on buying a type of sallet so do you think a hardened chromium-vanadium 30hgsa steel would be good too make it out of?

  • @Hostility1812
    @Hostility1812 3 года назад +3

    Good video and great information.

    • @fardeenmirza8762
      @fardeenmirza8762 3 года назад

      Hii
      I am making medieval helmets, armour in india. You want to buy?

    • @Hostility1812
      @Hostility1812 3 года назад

      @@fardeenmirza8762 nah man. Thanks for the offer though.

    • @fardeenmirza8762
      @fardeenmirza8762 3 года назад

      NH you intrested in medieval product buy?

    • @Hostility1812
      @Hostility1812 3 года назад

      @@fardeenmirza8762 no

  • @TonyGonzales2
    @TonyGonzales2 Год назад +1

    Nice, I didn’t know Mild steel is still usable in Buhurt, good to know so I don’t need to buy another helmet.

  • @ShokkuKyushu
    @ShokkuKyushu 2 месяца назад

    304 stainless in the annealed/solubilized condition is tougher in liquid nitrogen than mild steel at room temperature.

  • @sirjosefofhessen4527
    @sirjosefofhessen4527 3 года назад +1

    Question 2 amorer what do i need to know about 30hgsa steel 3mm helmet?

  • @boydgrandy5769
    @boydgrandy5769 5 месяцев назад

    The strike against the vambrace with the axe, even if the arm was allowed to react to the strike, would have broken the radius or ulna, possibly both. Tempered, the vambrace would have held up better, but it is a rather close fitting piece of armor, so it would not take that much deflection of the steel to transmit a heavy point load at right angles to the forearm bones, with a big hematoma or break as a result. Either way, you aren't fighting with that arm for the rest of the day/week/month, depending on your heal time.

  • @texasbeast239
    @texasbeast239 2 года назад +2

    I saw a vid recently where a smith said he uses crankcase motor oil to get more even blackening.
    He also said linseed oil has a tendency to look brown under certain lighting, and it can run and streak.
    But multiple coats of linseed are still the best way to get the deepest darkest darkest black.

  • @daniellopezeverest
    @daniellopezeverest Год назад +1

    Awesome video thank you for sharing I loved it! :-) does your blacksmith have a RUclips channel and or a link where I could request and or buy stuff from?

  • @Hathathorne
    @Hathathorne 10 месяцев назад

    So mild steel crumples easily and be fixed easily but if its 3mm 12 gauge mild steel it won't even dent at all? But is super heavy? But would springsteel but worth it if it dents less?

  • @ngravephenom7892
    @ngravephenom7892 3 года назад +4

    How about titanium guys? Maybe not for the helmet, but the armor.

  • @DkGaston
    @DkGaston Год назад

    Is there anyone outside USA using mild steel for helmets for buhurt?

  • @parkerbettinson2797
    @parkerbettinson2797 2 года назад

    "I wish we had an example of a helmet shattering"
    *shattered helmet shows up on screen*

  • @cbrusharmy
    @cbrusharmy Год назад

    Does the smith have a website?

  • @grantholmes5661
    @grantholmes5661 3 года назад +2

    Invisididy 😏

  • @O.LEO.N
    @O.LEO.N 4 месяца назад +2

    What about Titanium??

    • @Baahlvorn
      @Baahlvorn 3 месяца назад

      I got the same question

  • @Jesarot
    @Jesarot 2 года назад +1

    Dude said Nerd Rage. Must be talking about Simon. Lol

  • @jacobkotten338
    @jacobkotten338 3 года назад +2

    Does this guy do armouring vids I’d like to learn

    • @saltlakecitycrusaders9811
      @saltlakecitycrusaders9811  3 года назад +1

      Not yet. We can do more videos in the shop as well. Ryan Weaver (also Anvil Dragon) does some videos and FB livestreams in his shop when making armor. Hope that helps.

  • @blakesawyer993
    @blakesawyer993 Год назад +1

    Do y’all do custom orders?

    • @saltlakecitycrusaders9811
      @saltlakecitycrusaders9811  Год назад +1

      We are not a armor manufacturing group. You however can find many great armored through Facebook and Instagram.
      We recommend
      Aleksey perebeynos
      Alexander yahknovskyi
      Wild armory- maxim suprovich
      Medieval extreme
      Buhurt tech
      Canadian buhurt

  • @TrenchCoatDingo
    @TrenchCoatDingo 2 года назад

    what are your thoughts on titanium?

    • @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319
      @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 2 года назад +1

      Titanium is great for reducing weight and doesn't rust but it doesn't stop really hard hits from bringing the pain. It's really up to your pain tolerance and position on the field

    • @TrenchCoatDingo
      @TrenchCoatDingo 2 года назад +1

      @@carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 i think they want me as tank

    • @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319
      @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 2 года назад +1

      @@TrenchCoatDingo then titanium wouldn't be the choice for you. Hardened/ stainless for chest piece. Spring for arms and legs. Spring or mild for helmet

    • @TrenchCoatDingo
      @TrenchCoatDingo 2 года назад

      @@carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 is spring for the chest not ideal? i would like to keep away from stainless if possible.

    • @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319
      @carlyaustinsebaske-smith3319 2 года назад

      @@TrenchCoatDingo hardened/stainless is ideal for the chest. It's cheaper than spring and will perform in the ways you need. Spring is great for the chest as well, it's just more expensive and doesn't really do anything better than hardened/stainless

  • @DkGaston
    @DkGaston Год назад

    Who are these "most armorers" using cromolly? Last I checked most heat treated helms in USA are still 1050 or 1065 and from Eastern Europe G65 (similar to 1065). 4130 is still a premium material...and you missed perhaps the most important difference. The hardening process for 4130 is much more forgiving than 1050 whicj was popular for a decade....tons of examples of failed tempering process in 1050 with catastrophic armor failures (shatter). 4130 is much safer as well as stronger and more rust resistant...the closest Eastern equivalent is HSGA30 or XGSA30 (same metal, different countries). It's not as tough as 4130, but it's close.