Did Orban Cross the Line? Promoting Negotiations Between Kyiv and Moscow | Red Lines
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Join Henry, Pavlo, and Dmytro in this insightful episode of our podcast as they discuss the recent visit of Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban to Kyiv and Moscow. They discuss the details of Orban's diplomatic moves amidst the ongoing Russian-Ukrainian war, exploring potential negotiations between Ukraine and Russia and the broader geopolitical consequences. As well as the personal interest of Hungary's PM in such visits.
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orban performing to get his dog bowl filled
Victor Orban should be treated like Medvedev: ignored on all levels.
that's what the West did with Putler.... & look how that turned out.
Putin to Orban: "Hold my poop bag"
Xi Jinping to Pudin : Imma buy ya🛢️ but First, Kiss Ma 🍑
More weapons to Ukraine is an excellent and reliable negotiator, other than that Putin does not understand any language of negotiations
Orban needs to feel important but nobody is interested in him.
Except Trump/MAGA??? But, it's ridiculous!!! 💙SLAVA UKRAINI!!!💛
Nobody is interested in Europe leaders too… Europe will fail for following US warmongers
Many clever boys think they're smart and can micromanage conflict even though they couldn't run a lemonade stand. What concession could Orban extract from Putin and vice versa from Ukraine? He speaks for neither.
@@mariafoster7388 trump likes orban. He wants to be like orban, putin, xi and other dictatorial thugs.
It’s unfortunate that bad , propaganda against the good is stronger than the the good story! I am always amazed that people vote for the strong person that want no good for them instead of choosing a person that serves their interests!
orbans nuts sack is in the vice, and pootin is tighteneing the grip
If Orban purpose in visiting Kyiv is to promote Putin's ambition of Eukraine then, it's useless. Eukraine international border in the 90s must be recognized by Russia.
I am Hungarian,
and i really liked the conversation, much higher quality then western media !!
You guys were thinking, debating... not just accusing blindly.
I dont agree with everything you said, but still
Slava Ukraine !!
Slava Russia.
@@KonradTamas Mi történt egykor bátor Magyarországgal??
From history, Russia has been wanting to take Ukraine forever. They have this obsession that they have to own the country. I am 🇨🇦 and born in Chile. Never seen this before
I think Putin wants the orthodox part of Ukraine... He doesn't want all Ukraine... It's simply impossible with population against him, which is not the case of Crimea ... Where the Tatars can even be more legitimate... Better to at least understand this war ... A proxy war between US & Russia... Not me saying... Even German generals are saying this
You guys are very entertaining 😂
Thank you gentlemen. I wish that more people over here in North America (I'm in Canada) could understand the threat that all autocratic governments pose to every democracy in the world. Henry hit the nail on the head when he mentioned that all world leaders are led by their vanities. Orban has the image he wants his people to see. Putin believes the image he sees. The rest are somewhat less vain.
Yours in the only media that gets full impact of the war in Ukraine (obviously) and it seems to be believed solely by those countries that border Russia directly by land or sea.
You have my thanks and my faith in a free Ukraine.
This was an excellent discussion, more like this please.
I agree with Henry. Orban is just showing off. Early in the war, the president of Israel offered to mediate and Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State under Nixon who gave away South Vietnam, couldn't resist playing the big man negotiator. "As late as May 2022, Kissinger was calling for a cease-fire in Ukraine and a restoration of the line of contact as it stood before Russia's full-scale invasion that February. These remarks were widely viewed in Ukraine as a demand that Kyiv give up its claim to Crimea, although Kissinger said in the July 2022 Der Spiegel interview that he intended the status of Crimea to be the subject of further negotiation." - Radio Free Europe "The Evolution Of Henry Kissinger's Views On Russia And Ukraine"
З цього нічого не виходить, Генрі.
Good reporting. Thank you. Strong Ukraine. Strong NATO.
He usually does. Why would that stop when he's being allowed to do it?
Get Orban to arrange for a total withdraw to 2014 border for peace, or Window or Tea!
Orban is very egoistic and he needed attention. Just give him the attention to win him over but don't trust him.
Of course!!🇺🇸
Good discussion 👍😃
Ви згадали про деякі приємні та важливі моменти.
Але це має пройти ще більше аналізу.
Ці розмови дуже важливі.
Воно отримає ще якийсь розрахунок.
all Ukrainians should unite
Хороший аналіз. Але ще є на що реагувати. Це цікава тема. Гарна робота з інформування.
Orban visited, Ukraine, Russia, China, Turkey and USA. Now which western politician can do that in a week?
Is Orban hoping to get a consolation prize of Zakarpattia for Hungary?
Orban is a taste tester for Trump! If Orban spitZ, Trump wont taste!
Orban if really wants peace between Ukraine and Ruzzia, the first thing that he should tell RazzPutin to do is to order his troops to go back to pre-2014 border which is internationally recognized border between Ruzzia and Ukraine....
We in a west leave in a North Korean style dictatorships. jIt is not that obvious because it is done softly and over many layers.
Попереду ще багато роботи. Але я думаю, що ми впораємося. Ситуація в Україні стає все кращою. Я радий, що це так, але попереду ще багато роботи.
What was Junior doing meeting with Orban recently?
🥴😵😵💫
Maybe he wil replace Donald Trump hehe😊😂
Orban going to Kiyv and Mosko bcse need atention for hiself ,helook only on his own image,better he become second putin
🇲🇽🇺🇦
Orban has no auturization to reprezent EU
Orban was not Forced to visit Russia, he went by himself, to face the problem head on. He picked Putins mind, ahead of the Washington NATO summit.
Others are Guessing, he is Communicating.
still not good enough for some people...
Iagred he doesn't wanteto visit Kiev. He is forced to do so because he is President of EU for 6 mths. He is just showing to the whole world. He is a hypocrite.
Guys, guys, guys, West is not the world. It would be nice to leave this old colonialist mentality behind. To be honest the West is in minority in all angles.
While you were talking and virtue signaling 50 Ukrainian soldier did. Do you understand why you need peace immediately??? Ignorance is bliss.
Shouldnt you guys be on the battlefield?
Shouldnt you ?
Shouldn't you be watching RuZZian TV?
They are fighting disinformation because they have brains. Now you can march off to the Russian trenches.
No Hungarian would like to live under Russian rule again!
It is about our Russia Dependent Economy.
We Have to be Friendly with the Russians.
We cannot kill our economy, for Ukraine, we dont even have a shared Defense Treaty. We must stay realistic.
Except Orban, who it seems would be happy to live in the russian federation if it would insure him staying in power.
So it's you? That's the guy with that voice impossible to understand.
I understand him but had never seen Dmytro. Good to see him! My opinion, yes humans are ordinarily self-centered and don't care. But remember how the photo of napalm girl woke up Americans to what we were doing in Vietnam? Every leader and every person should be asked to look into the pit in Bucha.
Please put another voice, he sounds like he mocks us.
You guys are very clever. I will send you some crayons.
Turkey Nato's second military power support Hungary. Russia is not our enemy. We want peace. Ukraine is not a Nato member. Russia did not attack Nato.
But, Ukraine will be a full member soon, and is now has the protection through the many NATO countries that have individual security and economic agreements with them!!! NEVER RUSSIA!!!
Orban is playing to keep his EU handouts going. ruZZia is going down
Russia brutally attacked a peaceful sovereign neighbor. Ignoring it is not "peace," it's the return to rampaging hordes deciding people's fate. The United States might start keeping the countries it liberates, making them workers and demanding tribute. Would that be OK?
Boo hoo
If Russia is not an enemy of NATO and you want peace, then logically Turkey should exit NATO.
I wonder if Orban will issue putin his ECJ arrest warrant