Defending "The WORST theme park chain"
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- I've heard a lot of complaints about Six Flags so today I just wanted to do my best to "clear their name" In this video, I dissect every complaint I've heard about 6 flags and place them into one of four categories.
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Concerning clones: Please do not forget that the vast majority of parkgoers does not visit every 6-flag park. So, having one clone in their "homepark" is perfectly fine for all that aren't travelling the world to visit parks.
Very good point.
Pretty much this. And tbh I like riding the various Batman and 4D Free Spin clones and debating if one is better than the others. For example, I actually enjoyed Goliath at Fiesta more than any other Batman clone. Just felt more intense.
It makes sense from a business perspective. They're tried and tested rides that are nearly guaranteed to be successful and reliable.
They probably also want to maintain a cohesive brand image and offer similar experiences in each park, kinda like how a you can go to basically any McDonald's and get a familiar experience.
ngl didn't even know batman was a clone cause i was only at 1
Most people are unlikely to even know much less care when a theme park on the other side of the country gets a new ride. They’ll most likely only get to ride it if it’s near them. So why not clone a few?
Six flags may have cloned rides, but that’s ok in my opinion, because as you said, the clones are usually fun, but also, in my opinion, the GP don’t care that it’s cloned. It’s a new ride at their home park, which draws in more guests
How many parks have Intamin Impulse coasters? Now how many of them are at Cedar Fair parks? Are they fun? Yes. Are they unique? Unless you count Wicked Twister with its twin 200+ foot spirals, no. They're still uncommon and rare enough that they are a treat to ride. And as for the 4D Free-Flyers, I rode on one of the Joker-themed ones at SFGAm, they're amazing little rides. I'd consider it in one of my favorite new ride designs up there with hybrids and launched coasters. It was easily one of the best rides I had all summer because it was fun. Coasters are supposed to be fun. Did everyone forget coasters should be fun?
How many parks have retracked hybrids? Steel Vengeance, the current darling of thoosies everywhere, is a retracked hybrid coaster. It's not even the first of its kind, and nobody thinks it sucks. Quite the opposite. Everyone lines up to suck its dick, and for good reason - it's a great ride. But is it really better than something like Mystic Timbers or Twisted Cyclone? No, because in the end it is STILL just a retracked woodie that happens to have broken a lot of records and happens to be a really really fun, really damn good ride. Is it better than Goliath at SFGAm? No, because that coaster does certain things differently; hell I think it was a smoother ride than SteVe. This complaint is like saying "It's popular, so it sucks."
Literally one of my fav rides is a clone I could care less since I don’t have the money to go to the other six flags parks
They're a good business decision, since they already know it's a good design. They'd be stupid not to.
Also, it allows people who cant experience a ride at a much further location, at a closer one they actually can go to
@@ThePhantomSafetyPin Wicked Twister doesn't even exist anymore
thank you!!!! some coaster enthusiasts don’t realize that not everyone can afford to travel to parks across the country. by cloning, six flags saves money and park goers don’t have to travel too far to ride a certain attraction. yes, six flags isn’t the best, but honestly by providing accessible and affordable options, more and more people can appreciate coasters and escape from their everyday lives, which is really the core value and purpose of all roller coasters.
Yea and people always ask “HoW iS SIx FLAgS STilL rUnnIng”
And people really don’t realize that they’re still relevant because they offer an experience for a cheaper price than other theme parks and for the price the experience is high quality
Taylor from coaster studios is foaming at the mouth from someone defending six flags
everyone is foaming at the mouth...
I dont get the hate for 6 flags
lol
Yup
@@Coastoons people have always hated cause they look at as the budget trashy bad ride but overpriced park. Honestly tho I like six flags cause they usually aren’t too big, I can do everything I want in a day. It’s relatively clean. It’s not too overpriced.
Disney or cedar point is legit just an all you can eat buffet scam. You pay hundreds for not being able to get anywhere close to riding all the rides you want to.
Screw coaster studios he’s a jerk
“It’s cool to hate on sixflags”
Me, who didn’t even know theme parks didn’t make roller coasters in-house: how lame AM I?
2:46 Funnily enough, I discovered this when playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 2, after noticing that Great Adventure's Medusa had the exact same design as Magic Mountain's Scream. It called into question Six Flag's sense of originality, but otherwise never really bothered me: if the design is good enough, why NOT reuse it so that other regions can enjoy that same experience? I wouldn't want a NorCal resident to travel hours to ride Scream or Batman, when they could just ride Medusa and Batman in their own local park. Furthermore, it's a more common practice than Six Flags dissenters would have you believe, as seen from the numerous Wild Mouses and Boomerangs across various theme parks. Hell, the Magic Kingdom is more or less an entire AMUSEMENT PARK that's been cloned from Disneyland.
My annoyance is the mixing of ride names between SF parks. Depending on the park, Batman might be Goliath. Joker might be Batman. Don't even get me started on the permutations of Superman. Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn are also having multiple personalities. Goliath and Viper can each be one of many different rides. It's like Six Flags draws new ride names out of a hat, but someone has loaded the hat with Batman, Joker, Superman, Goliath, Viper, etc.
You need a secret decoder ring or a Rosetta Stone just to translate ride names between parks. I'd love to see a table that lists each park and its respective name for various rides. Heck, SF could sell a coaster translation T-shirt with a matrix on the back. Park names in the left column and industry names (ex. Inverted Coaster) across the top row. Each cell would then have the park's name for that ride at that park.
They are incredibly lazy, and I've heard (I don't know if its true) that they hate having wooden coasters because they don't like doing constant work on them, which would make sense because they tend to get lazy with just about every thing. The 2 six flags parks I've been to, the ride ops were horrible. Maybe just my personal experiences but i'm not a huge fan.
This is exactly my issue. There should be some consistency with ride names. Though six flags over Georgia I've only ever had 9/10 experiences. Six flags over Georgia is actually decent depending on the day you go.
@@kakky3222 considering El Toro at SF great adventure derailed this year, that makes sense
@@kakky3222 The ops at Magic Mountain don't seem to be that bad. The only thing shut down right now (or rather, Monday, when I went last) is Tatsu because of that fire. X2 is having maintenance issues though. One of the trains has been out of commission for at least a week, so the line is crazy long. MM may have better ops than other parks though, since they want to be able to say they can compete for most coasters.
Well at least in six flags great America only 2 of those were built in the 2010’s which was the Goliath (the tallest rollercoaster at six flags) and joker (which just sucks because it’s just a bunch of flipping going forwards and backwards for 20 seconds
For me, as long as they have good rides, it's fine by me. The GP never bothers me at any park and I don't ever eat at theme parks. Though I can see issues of lines and restrictions but otherwise I decently like Six Flags
THANK YOU thats all I care about
THANK YOU.... finally someone has articulated my opinions....I lost my coaster virginity at SF so I have a soft spot for them and think they get way too much hate...... you have a new subscriber
That is an amazing ay of putting it lol
“Coaster virginity” is definitely an interesting term but I like it
Same. My first time was American Eagle at SF Great America in Chicago
@@sl3pt_921 AE is pretty good, I wish it raced more tho
@@sl3pt_921 Mine was on New Texas Giant at SF over Texas
„All theme park food is bad“
Phantasialand: Hold my Taverne
Edit:
I’d actually say it’s “hold my Uhrwerk“ now xD
Overall I think European parks have better food than American parks.
On some theme parks they sell awful water
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THIS WTF AHAHAHAHA 😂😂
SIX flags great adventure actually has in place call Granny's chicken Its really good
Most themepark food is bad, but CP has Chick fil A!
Great breakdown and I can get behind a lot of what you say, although I haven't experienced a Six Flags park yet. I can really agree with bad ops not necessarily ruining a park too. I've always loved Kennywood, even though I've experienced some very bad operations there.
The only theme park I went that has thrill rides is USS
YOU’RE THE FIRST COASTER CHANNEL IVE SEEN SAY U LOVE SIX FLAGS AND I STAN U FOR THAT 💃💃,, I’ve never understood the hate Six Flags gets, I think they’re great ☹️
people still think six flags is still in the era when they went bankrupt and all the parks turned really bad.
i luv six flags but it always has the SAME musty cheeseburger smell every time i go there LMAO
We're going to give Six Flags the reputation it rightfully deserves. It's not easy to be King. Everyone loves to criticize greatness, but it will only make them better. Also what i respect from them.... If you truly put in effort and consideration...they will read your opinions and take them into consideration. As long as it's not asinine. There is such a strong human element here.
Six flags is ok, but cedar fair is definitely better.
@@waddles6139 thanks captain obvious. Everyone says and knows that, you sound like a broken record. It’s fine to love both chains(I DO LOLOL) no one was saying they were better than cedar fair 👍
"All theme park food is bad"
*Knotts Berry Farm (and Disneyland):* "Observe"
Disney food festivals have ranged from meh to good, but Knott's and it's Boysenberry Festival have been AMAZING in my experience
bruh cmon Disneyland food actually slaps
disney food is an overpriced ripoff
@@ravensflockmate based
@@macias7125 bruh your the person that just takes photos of everything Disney man just Unbelievable Ur Probably Some Rich White Person Or Some Shit Along Those Lines.
As someone who’s grown up in Chicago there’s not many theme park choices that parents would want to bring us to. Six Flags was basically the only park I had ever been too for most of my life, I never had a problem with Six Flags even after I had been to big parks like Disney, Universal, Kings Island, etc.
Get over it Six Flags is great
I just wished Great America still had good theming like back in the day. I could kill for a Disney style park around here
‘All theme park food is bad.’
DOLLYWOOD HAS ENTERED THE CHAT:
Dollywood Silver Dollar City Knoebels Universal and Disney even some Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks like fiesta Texas and Magic Mountain and Carowinds and Kings Island
I was really impressed with my visit to SFGA this week. The park was immaculately clean. I didn't see a single piece of litter. The ops were fantastic. Every coaster besides Green Lantern was pumping out trains. Jersey Devil's moving platform loading system was perfectly coordinated. The main operator on Superman kept saying this over the intercom: "We're trying to get a train out every 45 second. This is incredibly difficult so please follow all of our instructions to keep the line moving." I really loved that kind of informative transparency.
I was just there earlier today and yesterday. It was a little busy yesterday but today it was really great. Bizarro was so much fun and there's literally no wait for that, early in the day I rode Nitro 3 times in a row and then again before leaving. Those 2 rides alone make me love this park.
I went there two days ago too and it was honestly great. The only issues i had was that it was super hot (but that’s not the parks fault in any way lol) and that some of the rides closed because of technical difficulties or other things several times (that mostly applied to the smaller rides and family coasters though). it was pretty busy but i got to go on all the rides i wanted. the food was actually surprisingly decent, i was expecting it to be a lot worse, and i road nitro for the first time and absolutely loved it. then at the end of the day it started raining and we got totally soaked but overall it was an awesome trip lol
@@forestmint213 Hey, I remember the rain! I left shortly before it happened, but I remember how it rained shortly before the park opened. Also, it was hotter the next day (over a hundred degrees)
@@waycnf7229 yeah, that's why we decided to go to the park that day instead of yesterday. the rain was so heavy, the entire parking lot was a swamp LOL but it was honestly pretty fun
Just don’t go in that joker line. It’s literally so long because it opened in 2019 and it might be the shortest rollercoaster there. (It was the longest line when I went there only behind the Goliath)
I always have a Six Flags day.
People think Six Flags is bad. Try being an enthusiast who lives 10 minutes from Mt. Olympus. It's so bad that I consider Great America my home park, over 2 hours away
You poor soul
Mt. Olympus Wisconsin Dells? At least there’s good water parks
Hades 360 is wild though
I feel privileged for having great adventure as my home park.
EDIT: this aged like ass
@@michaeltoobased same my home park is my olympus’s big brother who didn’t take meth, holiday world
No you’re right abt ops. Great adventure is my home park and I literally never see bad ops. The staff are really nice and they got people on and off the ride quickly.
Great America has good ride ops for Six Flags IMHO too. Like, they genuinely seem to have FUN with their jobs. They're quick and efficient, and from what I saw just as safe as Cedar Fair parks are. I usually have a great time at that park. I can't say for others, but maybe it's the guests at those parks to blame.
Nickelodeon universe is a brand new park, I’d be shocked if the ops weren’t terrible
You deserve more views. Great videos and love the MS Paint lol
Thanks! Honestly I feel like I already get more veiws than I deserve but that could just be because content creators never really like their own content
I have been to every Six Flags park except Mexico, and they get far too much hate. Not only do the majority of the parks have tons of great rides, but I loved the appearance and operations of many. There were few advertisements and each of the complaints detailed in the video were only really an issue at 2 or 3 parks. The only consistently bas thing in nearly every Six Flags park is the layout as it is extremely frustrating to get to rides and backtrack. However, the chain is overhated and I would go back to parks like Great Adventure and Great America in a heartbeat.
This Is The Best Opinion Plus The CEO Might Fix The Main Gripes With SF Idk, Though Who Knows Maybe They Could Make A Comeback Who Knows?
I agree with most of your points but six flags food compared to any of the other major chains is a lot worse. Cedar fair has really stepped up the food game in past three years and Disney, Seaworld, and universal blow both of them out of the water. I would also disagree with the operations. I’ve never seen any of the sixflags parks I’ve been to were running at full capacity while cedar fair and Seaworld always have the max capacity then can if the ride allows, this of course doesn’t include maintenance THAT is actually being done rather than just letting the rides trains sit. Other than those two points the video was pretty spot on.
Try going to great adventures my friend my home park and the people who work there are great I might be a little partial but I've been there enough to notice how quick there optimal coasters are
Ya cause cedar fair has recently been able to do more funding towards foods and beverages
My only frame of reference ops-wise is Great Adventure but their ops are mostly great. I've certainly been to parks with slower ops. I love Dollywood but some of their ops were very slugish
Yeah, the food itself is meh and takes extremely long to prepare for some reason. Besides that, the park itself is alright, not the best thing, but it’s still alright
I had food a sea world once, and I thought it was very blah.
Can I just say that the season cup is one of THE BEST DEALS EVER. Unlimited drinks four a entire year for only 28 bucks
The “I love Six Flags” intro is literally epic for a theme park youtuber
1:29 it starts again
Thank you thank you
The great thing about having Kennywood as your home park is unlike chain parks, the food is amazing.
Cedar Point has good food...,
@@coastersforlife5359 bruh they all taste the same the worst I’ve ever had among six flags and cedar fair was SFFT
Kennywood is my home park too and the food is not that good, I mean it’s not bad either, but like, nothing to write home about
Potato patch I love kennywood its my homepark also I wish Hershey was my home park tho
Kennywood is Parques Renuidos. That is the same company that owns Lake Compounce, Movie Park Germany, and Parques Warner Madrid.
the main thing i appreciate sf for over cedar fair is their handling of investments for parks. its true no sf has a traditional giga whilst cedar fair has 4, but no six flags park is anywhere near as neglected feeling as michigan's adventure. they spread the wealth around and for things that are designed essentially just to be a fun thing for locals to do on a weekend thats a great way of doing it
"All theme park food is bad"
Dollywood: hold my apple bread
“All theme park food is bad” Epcot has left the chat
My main issue with Six flags is that there are none near me, so I can't see how good or bad they are. (I'm from Ohio btw)
Same also from Ohio
you've got cedar point stop complaining
@@qwertyuiopwegames470 I'm not complaining lol, I just wish I could check out a six flags park, plus Cedar Point is on the other side of the state from me.
@@gav1485 fair SFMM is 2 hours away from me
I've been to a lot of Six Flags parks (if only because we like to travel a bit and the season passes are cheap + work at all the parks) and while it's blatant sometimes that they're understaffed, even with that taken into consideration I've almost never seen more than 1 ride down for the whole time I've been at a park -- for instance at Fiesta Texas, Iron Rattler only went down for ~1.5 hours once, at Great Adventure Kingda Ka is almost never down for longer than 2 hours, even if Nitro is down when we get there it's back up before we're even thinking about leaving. Yeah not all of the rides are always up the whole time we're at the park, but they open and close them with enough regularity we still get to go on pretty much everything over the duration of the day.
"all theme park food is bad"
Hershey Park, Phantasialand and every Disney park: Am I a joke to you???
Havent been to hershey or phantasialand but disneyland's food is downright disgusting
It depends who you ask, I find Disney's food really nice.
Once at the NJ Six Flags Batman Ride, the safety belt undid itself during the ride, so the hydraulics was the only thing keeping me in the ride. I assume this would be a Type 1 Complaint (still loved Kingda Ka though)
"All theme park food is bad"
Europe: *literally dies of laughter*
I’ve never had a problem with six flags, though I’m not an avid theme park goer, I usually only go to the parks in Texas like Pleasure Pier, Six Flags, Splash Town, Shliterbhan and that’s about it, mostly everything is fine, honestly I didn’t know six flags had that much hate on it
Certain SF parks are worse than others when it comes to maintenance and downtime. You've been lucky. The maintenance is my biggest gripe
My issue with six flags theming isn't about the rides but rather the clash between consistently themed rides and inconsistently themed parks. They have so much D.C. comics stuff for the rides but not all of them, which is just off to me. The overall signage also just randomly switches from D.C. to some general theme. The same thing applies to the food and other stores where a D.C. themed area will have a generally themed store, granted I don't remember any D.C. themed stores (by physical appearance) outside of post ride gift shops. I feel the mix of D.C. and general makes it so it doesn't feel like either a franchise/hyper themed park, like Universal, Disney, SeaWorld ect., nor a more ride based general theme park like Cedar Fair, Busch Gardens, Hershey's ect.. The weird middle ground between D.C. themed and a more general theme park is certainly a valid critique of them as theme parks, but not as roller coaster parks/destinations.
Coastoony: "Six Flags chooses really good rides to clone.. like REALLY good".
Me: (Holds a list of what feels like two dozen S&S Free Spins and Larson Loops right in Coastoon's face) "Oh, really? How could I have missed that?"
Edit: Okay, you included them in the clones list. But you are actually the only person I have ever come across who doesn't think they are just terrible rides....
I'm not too big of a fan of Six Flags, I do prefer Cedar Point / Kings Island / Busch Gardens, but Six Flags has some solid ass rides. The parks often do feel a little dirty and under-maintained, but that's ultimately not that big of a deal as long as the visitors are safe.
The worst naming offense by Six Flags is that Fiesta Texas’ Batman Clone is called Goliath and the OG S&S Free Spin is called Batman The Ride. So, technically....ALL the Free Spins are also Batman Clones 🤣
Damn good show. Keep up the good work
I want to put in one more thing as a defense for Six Flags.
A lot of people do not have the money to go to big chains like Disney or Universal, and cannot pay for larger travel fares. So when a season pass to a place like Six Flags is like $50, people will be more likely to go just to chill and shit.
"all theme park food is bad"
Silver dollar city would like to know your location
What ive always thought about clones is at the end of the day, it gives park goers a chance to experience a ride that they otherwise wouldnt be able to ride if there was only 1 on the other side of the country
I have always liked Six Flags parks. My home park was Darien Lake (before they were Six Flags the very first time) and whenever we went to SFGAM, it was always so much bigger, better, better quality, rides were superior, etc. And I still view that with Six Flags parks compared to other Stand alone parks. I've been to several cedar fair parks and they are good too, but I never felt they were night and day difference EVER. Except Cedar Point because it was Cedar Point, but that is the exception.
I think the quality gap between six flags and cedar fair parks is smaller than people make it out to be. I also have a home park thats a six flags park and I enjoy it every visit
I always thought that the cloning thing made a lot of sense.
Six Flags parks in particular are primarily aimed at semi-locals, people who aren't willing to travel just for the best rides. So cloning a popular coaster draws locals into the park, and also means more people get to experience it. Yeah, coaster enthusiasts who've been to every park in the country won't be happy with less options, but clone coasters aren't FOR them.
I live near the St. Louis park, and while I haven't been since the early 2010s and can't speak for it right now, all I remember when I'd go there is that like half the coasters felt awful to ride. I'd get sore after riding a few of them and just not want to ride anything else. Most notable example was the Ninja.
Coastoons; bad ops do not ruin a park.
Universal Studios: hold my beer
The one thing about the unkempt parks is that Fiesta Texas is my home park (and Over Texas is my home away from home park), and although some of the rides at Over Texas could use a new coat of paint, Six Flags does a good job with these two.
Fiesta Texas is especially well done. It considered the prettiest six flags park
I have a counterpoint to the “all theme park food is bad”: Busch Gardens Williamsburg has excellent food by theme park standards.
And Kennywood is fire
Cedar Fair is doing a much better job with food... I'd say it goes under 3
Yeah CP having the Melt is huge
I just went to Great Adventure on the 10’th of June this year and they were having pretty good operations for just having opened at full capacity.
"All theme park food is bad"
* laughs in silver dollar city *
Out of the 4 Six Flags Parks I've been to 3 of them blew away my expectations for what I thought Six Flags was about. Six Flags Over Georgia, Fiesta Texas, and Magic Mountain we're all fantastic experiences during my visits. Now Discovery Kingdom on the other hand was the textbook definition of having a Six Flags day. Easily the worst park I've been to so far. But besides that my experience with Six Flags has been very positive.
I cant say that Universal Studios has bad food when Butterbeer exists in the Harry Potter attraction. The food selection at the Harry Potter attraction is just good in general. Its just basic british dishes.
Honestly when thinking on the most ads I’ve seen at a park, the Disney parks come up a lot in my mind!
I mean how the ads are on the monorail or on the side of a building and the public sees that it is cool!
Six Flags puts an advertisement somewhere and no matter where it is, the public views them as THE DEVIL!!!!
I mean I don’t mind them as theme park ads are probably the best ads as you aren’t forced to watch a 30 second clip every single ad that pops up with theme park ads.
Yeah… about how dirty the parks are, uh I went to Knott’s and Magic Mountain very recently and Knott’s had trash EVERYWHERE while magic mountain just had a bit.
Shoutout to the Studiopolis Zone 1 music when you were talking about Batman lol
I really enjoyed this. You are spot on about Six Flags. Batman is one of the funnest coasters ever.
The west coast racers delay was actually out of 6 flag’s control, the steel manufacturer had lots of delays on getting all the parts out
I had a terrible day at both discovery kingdom and magic mountain, they were running 1 train with terrible ops on basically everything. even though i had one of the free refill drink cups, most of the drink shops were closed, and they had basically no shade, so i was just burning alive. half the rides were closed at both parks, and all the rides that were open had absurdly long waits because of the above problems. i actually ended up leaving discovery kingdom at like 1pm because everyone i was going with was miserable. I went to California's great America (a cedar fair park) the day after discovery kingdom, and had a WAY better time. by the way, at discovery kingdom, the ops on the wild mouse were so bad that they only had 2 or 3 cars on it, and they only had 1 actually moving at a time. half the time every single car was in the station with none actually going.
somehow six flags great adventure in new jersey manages to always be better than that every time i go, but it seems like the outlier compared to all the other six flags I've been to.
six flags = quanity over quality, cedar fair = quality over quanity, disney/universal = both yet neither at the same time
I like Six Flags advertisements because they give free stuff sometimes. I remember a couple of times where they would give free takis when you exited the park
@Olivia 757 yea that’s why I like going. I love free stuff
Six Flags is leagues better than the company they replaced. Did more in two years than they did in over a decade. Have some faith in the company and show your appreciation by having the absolute most fun that you can. Six Flags is the cream that will rise to the top. They truly do care , it makes it easier to care as well.
A bad theme park is like a badly decorated cake: it’s not as good as usual, but it’s still cake
All theme park food is bad? That's the worst opinion I've heard in the entire video. You can't lump food in to the mix because its a chain. It's a chain of parks, not restaurants. I highly doubt they use the same recipes in every single park, and most parks actually have at least some good food food places, at least one awesome food place, then the REST are bad, but really it's only like 2 food places in any park that will actually be bad.
My one nitpick is at Fiesta Texas. 1-day guests have to wait till April 30th to be allowed into the water park. I can wait because I know that's included in the ticket ( Unless it has changed )
You can’t really bash people for caring about things you don’t care about… but also bash people for not caring about things you think they should care about
Also: Disneyland food isn’t bad. It’s pretty good. I will fight you on this 😌
the closest six flags to my house is discovery kingdom and I just feel so bad for those poor animals. it's one thing to not have to best upkeep for a theme park but when it's also a zoo that looks depressing as hell, you need to do something about it.
I can’t speak for other parks but Cedar Point and Kings Island are busiest during their Halloween events. Also the food at Cedar Point is fantastic.
I loved it when I was in Six Flags Magic Mountain they had a sign from twix and if you walked past it on the left you would get a reflection saying ONLY 49.9% OF PEOPLE CHOOSE THE LEFT TWIX FIRST, YOU ARE A LEFT TWIX REBEL. Honestly made me crack up xD
Six Flags America Vs. Kings Dominion Vs. Busch Gardens HMMMMMMM
Busch Gardens for the themeing, Kings Dominion for the intensity.....
SFA forrrr..........
🤔......?????
💡........😃☝
The price!!!!
An actual flaw with Six flags parks is the maintenance. At SFMM, some of the rides run rough. For example, Gold Rusher, Viper, X2, Riddler's Revenge, and Apocolypse. There are other rides I've heard are rough, but have never been on (Like King Da Ka, or El toro). Nevertheless, this is an actual problem that I wish was fixed.
The food argument is totally valid I ordered general tsos chicken at chop six one time and all I got was some cold chicken nuggets topped with duck sauce that I payed $20 for
9:23 One issue with not keeping the park clean is that guests will become angry and destroy benches, and trash cans. They probably forgot to uncheck "mow lawns" on their handymen.
The only point you made that I really didn't agree with was other chains only work with a few manufacturers. Six flags really needs to branch out more. They always take the cheap manufacturer. Other chains are much more willing to try other manufacturers. I don't think it's the biggest deal but they are definitely behind in their diversity of manufacturers.
I love Six Flags, they offer some amazing rollercoasters- that alone is enough for me. People love to piss and moan when they don't get their way, it's just inevitable. You can't please everyone these days, especially when people like to act pathetic, weak and entitled 🤣
I wouldn't have a big issue with Six Flags' advertising on coasters if it weren't for two points.
1. Yes, advertisement allows the park to sell tickets at a lower price. However, that doesn't help the fact that they are in SO much debt (more debt than when they last declared bankruptcy.) The business strategy you describe doesn't appear to be working for them.
2. They reuse SO many names, it's a joke. Let's say you ask a Cedar Fair fan what their favorite coaster is, and they say, "GateKeeper." Straight and to the point. We immediately know which coaster (and park) they're talking about.
Next, you ask a Six Flags fan what their favorite coaster is, and they reply, "Superman." Without additional info, we have no idea which ride or park they're talking about. There are at least ten roller coasters with the name Superman, and some of them aren't even in Six Flags parks.
I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that it isn't the advertising itself that I have an issue with. It's the fact that the business strategy isn't working, and they reuse names to the point where it's confusing.
Your right about the advertising. If they hadn't dug themselves into such a whole then they wouldn't need the ads. But I think six flags names their big coasters unique names. Think El toro, X2, the RMC's, kingda ka, Medusa, so pretty much everything besides the superman mega coasters
About your second point - the DC and toon coaster names aren't advertising - they PAY to do that.
The only people who whine about clones are a subset of the coaster enthusiasts that travel to multiple parks. And I would estimate that enthusiasts make up less than 10% of the attendance over the course of a year. The vast majority of the GP only goes to their regional SF park with a rare visit to another one while on a vacation every few years. So what if one or two of the rides happen to be identical. I estimate that 20% of the enthusiasts complain about cloned rides. That means 20% of 10% of a parks attendance wants to complain. That's only 2% of the annual visitors have a problem with clones.
To be fair West Coast Delayers did kinda become a meme. But why all the hate on it when it's standard for Six Flags to get their rides open late?
There's opening late, then there's opening the year after it was supposed to open.
As someone who worked at great adventure (ride ops 2010, photos 2011-2014), the ads are not only intrusive, but everyone is exposed to them, wether you’re a season pass holder or a worker. Jersey boys was possibly thier biggest advertiser, and the ads for it got so bad, I could tell you the time not from a watch but how long ago either a Frankie valley song played or is about to play. Yes it’s a ‘discount amusement park’, but when I worked there, SFGA was your only option for something of this size while still in NJ, at least during spring and autumn. Fright fest was fun, never worked there during December, and the super heroes and ExTrEmE coasters aren’t my thing.
Good job here, man. I love SF too. They are not doing anything wrong per se. We could all split hairs or nit-pick for sure.
I believe their prices are just find. SF know its parks are one-day parks, not vacation destinations. They are positioned exactly for that. Now if you want to be comparative, it is entirely possible to get in to Disney World for cheaper. The caveat? You have to buy tickets for four days or more. The cost per day comes down to less than SF at that point, but you're committing to a week long stay, rather than a short trip.
But for Disney, that's perfectly fine. They have four parks in Florida, and there is plenty to do in the area. It's in your better interest to stay a week.
As for the food, I might disagree that theme park food is always bad. I've never had a problem with SF's food. But the ones I went to had Johnny Rockets and the like. I'm not sure SF it's really managing those places.
But I do know why this complaint exists. Parks like Disney and Universal have really good food. At Disney, that is one thing they are known for. They have high-end sushi chefs at the Japan pavilion at EPCOT.
So when you have experienced great park food, it is hard for people not to compare.
Cloned rides don't bother me either. For SF, this makes a world of sense. They have a dozen or more parks around the world. If you have a hit in one park, it only makes sense to share it across the others.
The only complaint I do have here is that they don't have a lot of consistency in naming these rides. The Joker in one park isn't the same as the Joker elsewhere. Batman the Ride is also not the same everywhere. It makes for a confusing discussion.
DC theming doesn't bother me either, but I do disagree here. There is a reason why this complaint exists.
Theming is ultimately what makes or breaks a ride EXPERIENCE. Not the ride, the experience. That is the Disney difference. Disney gets chided for not having many thrill rides (which isn't entirely valid). But they do not really suffer from it. They spend a lot of money fixing up the attraction to make it it's own little world, usually the world of whatever movie the ride is based on. Peter Pan is a good example. The queue takes you through the Darling's home, complete with a trip through the children's room exactly as it appears in the movie. And there is a light representing Tinker Bell that flits around the room toward the end.
They make the queue line fit the ride. And the ride itself is usually made specifically for what Disney is trying to accomplish. You don't see it anywhere else, for the most part.
But with SF. . .It is hit and miss for sure. There are some Batman the Rides where they have a good themed queue, going through the Batcave and the like.
But then there's Wonder Woman at Over Georgia. It's a typical caged swing ride. What is it that makes it Wonder Woman? The paint job and images they slapped on top of it.
Golden Lasso at Fiesta Texas is really good. Probably one of the better themed roller coasters with a DC look. But again, the queue is nondescript. And the only things that make it Wonder woman are the identification of the track with the Golden Lasso and the paint job on the cars. And to bring the point home, there is a clone of it at Magic Mountain by and entirely different name. Same ride. Literally the Wonder Woman paint job is the only thing that sets Fiesta Texas apart.
That isn't a good job of theming. It's pretty lazy. And that is what the complaints usually are for this DC thing.
I take it a little step farther. What DC are they theming? Is it the comics? The animated universe? The movies? Well, it's kinda the animated, but then they had a big to-do about the opening of Green lantern at Magic Mountain with the GL from the movie (this was at the movie's launch no less). So it's like they want us to connect it with the movies but only to a point.
It is understandably confusing to people who do go expecting the DC theme.
All in all, I love SF too. But I gotta disagree on some of these being completely invalid. We have to look at them closer.
the thing is, this video could be renamed coaster enthusiasts are whiney
I mean I say cedar fair > Six flags but I don't say by much, they are both epic
vertical loops on inverts are TIGHT
I honestly think that six flags have the best operations as the only reason they close rides sometimes is so that everyone is safe. not only that but six flags is in my opinion the safest theme park chain and it makes no sense that they get constantly bashed for that so I think this statement goes under category 2, and anyone who works at any six flags can state the exact same thing. but one thing I do see a problem with is that six flags in general sucks the money out of your pockets really easily when you are inexperienced as they don't tell you where you're going to going to spend, and I know that that's the theme parks in general but I think that removing this factor would help six flags have a better reputation.
cedar point has some pretty fire food if you go to the specialized places; like melt, that bbq place, they opened the french quarter shop last year, and they always have a special type of food that changes yearly on the outside of iron dragon near the dragster exit. I could see where you're coming from if you just get food from the cookie cutter spots they have there that sell normal stuff like nachos, fries, corndogs etc
I agree with every point you made except for 11:22. SeaWorld is different from Six Flags in this aspect. SeaWorld's entire brand revolves around associating itself with sea creatures. The name of their chain is literally SEAWORLD. You would expect aquatic-themed rides and attractions at their parks (however, there are more sea creatures than mako sharks and manta rays and they could have chosen a different species for some of their rides so that they don't have any duplicate names). Six Flags' association with DC comes across as "money grab" to most people, not to mention SeaWorld does a far better job of theming their queues than Six Flags. Everything else in the video I agree with though
i very seldom had ride operation problems when i go an get a seadon pass every year besides 2020😒😪😔,,, but the only real ride was the dejavu that never worked i only been on it once, sooooo happy they got rid of that but it was a nice boomerang ride
Six flags parks still have an awful experience. The parks are just genuinely distasteful to look at. Also the argument on clones not getting repetitive is a little disingenuous. I get that maybe you could use the argument for free spins, but even then you can only go so far and just like boomerangs, they are EVERYWHERE. I swear six flags goes on a whole new level when it comes to clones. Same thing with Seaworld, but in general Seaworld and Busch garden parks only have 1 clone at most. With SF though, it can literally range up to 3 or 4. One is already enough. And when he said that other theme park chains had bad food, I knew he was talking out of his ass. Some theme park chains life Disneyland, Seaworld, Herschend, and Cedar Fair have some GODLY food. I know people who go to these theme parks just to eat. I also don't see where he's coming from when using the argument that Cedar Fair goes to the same manufacturers
My main complaint, with SF parks, is probably more of a nitpick, but a valid and maybe a major one, but still not a make or break situation.
This probably falls under operations and maintenance, but actually have the rides run on full efficiency and having all your coasters seating, in working, running conditions. I've only been to two of the parks, (both in Texas) and many of the coasters seats, are locked off and "out of order". Has does a multi million/billion dollar company, not have time to fix these?! Fix your sh*t SF! Please! Anyway, rant over.
9:24 SF Great America is actually pretty good in terms of cleanliness. I've been to a lot of six flags locations, and Great America is definitely one of the better ones in that regard. This is at least true for the times I've gone there.
Clones? MOST guest, and I strongly emphasize, MOST normal people dont really travel for rollercoasters, so having the same inverted or floorless coaster from park to park is okay because most guests will not go to another park anyways.
Advertising? I just went to Magic Mountain today, my home park, I know they advertise, but I literally didnt even notice and even if I did it wouldnt bother me. Dumb argument to say advertising is a mark against SF lol
The thing that bugs me about the ads is that they ruin the few best theming elements they have. Like the ones on the fort, in Skull Mountain, and the one on El Toro. They could totally find better places for them
Six Flags America has had the best operations out of that park, Kings Dominion, and Busch Gardens Williamsburg this summer. The ride ops clearly announce that there's 5 seconds to get through the gates and they really help the GP know what to do by yelling instructions. Kings Dominion idk what their issue was when I went but the lines were so long on a rainy Tuesday. Busch Gardens is responsible for the worst day I ever had at a theme park because the ride ops were letting people be sooo slow, and letting fast queue people into any random lane, train after train, leaving me next up for Alpeingest for 4 trains straight. Six Flags America is so funny and the energy the employees brought was great.
I think they're perfectly fine, I just wish they'd put more work into the environment of the park. Nothing like being on a dope coaster and your beautiful view is a nice face down view on the drop of a... parking lot.... like... not even an actual parking lot.... but the lines of an abandoned part of the lot that got taken over by a coaster. My home park is bgw and say what you will of the rides there, it's a beautiful park.
edit: food category
Go to bgw and eat at the smokehouse. I DARE you to tell me its bad.
One thing I don't like about Six Flags is how they deal with parks. They keep buying up and leasing parks and then they want to add a new attraction to every park. That's expensive and most likely hasn't equated to the turnout that they were expecting... and this has been going on for a while. I think things would be better off if they invested in parks that will most likely provide a turnout for the chain.
As soon as the word advertisements showed up on screen I got two ads
I respect your opinion, but most of these seem like valid complaints aside from the fact that people single out six flags. Just because it's a problem everywhere doesn't mean it's not a problem for six flags.
With clones though I definitely feel like that's an invalid complaint. Even Disney has clones you can find at almost every one of their parks and people don't complain about that.
When the "Advertisement" title card appeared, I actually got an ad on the video and thought it was planned.
Ok. I don't hate Six Flags. My home park is a Six Flags park. If there is one thing I would complain about in recent years though, it's that they've been building really short rides. For example, at Six Flags Great America (my home park btw) the last 4 coasters we got were Maxx Force, Joker, Goliath, and X-flight. All 4 rides are relatively short. I'm especially disappointed about Goliath's length because its such a tall coaster, and it's an RMC, yet it only has 1 really good air time hill. I would complain about Maxx Force, but I haven't actually had the opportunity to ride it yet. Out of the 4 coasters I mentioned, I think X-flight has the most acceptable length, but it was built 9 years ago. I suppose the reason why they're so short could just be because the park is running out of room, but seriously? Cedar Fair parks have recently been adding world-class RMCs and giga coasters, and Six Flags just builds half of a coaster, slaps a brake run on it and calls it a day. (I think another theory I've heard is that Six Flags doesn't have the money to build huge coasters because they give all of their parks small rides every year instead. Meanwhile, Cedar Fair gives their popular parks like Cedar Point and Kings Island good coasters, while ignoring smaller parks like Michigan's Adventure.)