One quick note: most USB C hubs will not output USB video signals, so these glasses won't likely work if you are trying to plug into a conventional USB C hub on the market. This is relevant in case people are trying to conduct a power passthrough to their device (if it only has one USB C port, like the Steam Deck) while using the glasses.
Just got mine today Lon (using your link!) Man it's amazing how many of these glasses makers skimp on letting you adjust your PD. You can see from all the comments about blurryness in the corners that that is all folks having PD issues. With my PD (70) the blur is just atrocious! If I close one eye it looks amazing, but if they'd just let you adjust PD even if through a software adjustment (move the images toward the outside of the classes) they'd solve so many of these issues, though obviously a harware ability to move the lenses apart via a dial or even pushing with your fingers would fix this. As you also suggested a 'zoom out' would also somewhat ameliorate this. But man is that picture gorgeous. On the fence about whether I'll return these.
Yeah the visual quality really surprised me! If only they could get a little adjustability into this market I think there would be lots of consumer interest.
Yeah it's also a design flaw in most USB hubs to have a cable built in. These are more expensive than the USB hubs I won't get anything but earbuds or headphones that have permanent cable attachments. With headphones it can be hard to find headphones 🎧 that have detachable cable when you need a cable like PS4 is very finicky about Bluetooth Headphones and the few times I've successfully connected Bluetooth headphones if I'm playing with someone and using pay audio chat I cut in and out. Something that's not an issue when I plug headphones into my duelshock 4 controller I wish more companies would rethink permanently attached cables in their design if the cable gets damaged the whole device must be replaced. Can't seem to find any USB hubs with detachable cable
I wanted to use them for programming, thanks for the honest review about the text display issues, I guess I have to wait for the next iteration with 4k support.
@@_modiX makes sense. I really have a hard time to find glasses which will have real like monitor. Modern oled monitors such due to text issues and color accuracy with white.
@@Hello-mu1et yup, I think the tech is not there yet, at least not in our preferred form factor. The Apple vision for instance has the necessary resolution and quality for text and color accuracy, but it's too big and comes with an OS which I definitely don't want. To get this experience into simple glasses might require some more iterations down the line.
@@_modiX I wonder what is the display latency here when they have 120hz in glasses. Was thinking about getting it for gaming but picture quality feels like it's not even worth it yet. Normal monitors have 0.03ms-1ms latency for gaming.
I been using the Rokid air version with a iPad mini 6 cellular version. I haven’t turn on a tv in the last year or use a phone. Tablet and media glasses all I need for entertainment anymore.
Text is always where you really see if you have high resolution or not. 1080p at a 86 inch display perceived to be just a couple of metres away makes the pixels quite large.
USB 3.0 Type-A connector also supports full HD video output with full audio & touchscreen support. Have you tried using a Type-A to Type-C adapter to see if it made any kind of difference? Or does it have a separate cable where you can replace it with a USB 3.x Type-A on one end with a USB 3.x Type-C on the other?
As a wearer of thick coke bottle lenses I just feel completely left out by things like this and VR. The prices are already high and having to get a set of glasses made for every device is prohibitively expensive. I just don’t understand why there isn’t more effort put into making this stuff work out of the box for wearers of lenses.
I fly FPV and most of the expensive goggles ($400+) don't have + or - adjustments but the cheapest pair (~$120) from years ago did (EV100). There doesn't seem to be a good reason for them to ignore it other than laziness / profit
I have the Rokid. They have these dials that fix all the eye stuffystuff and work right up unless Yer blindish. Otherwise, all these things are huge, beautiful, 120" OLED displays up on Your nose...cep't that Rokid one doesn't require You to get glasses inserts. The 3500 dollar, 3 pound Apple face toy is gonna' make You get glasses fixers. Wonder how long people are gonna' like that on their head?
I have nreal airs, and had to adjust my hdmi output - on my laptop to 200 times. I got a much better picture doing that. I also used from Amazon - PeakDo HDMI to USB C Adapter 4K@60Hz. as my hdmi - usb c connection. They work great to me. It made a real difference making my 2nd output screen (from my pc's view point - pun intended) 200 times. Of course I had to readjust my laptop's display back when I was done and that was kind of a pain, as I don't adjust my screen resolution too often and always have to think of the procedures on how to do it, every time. These glasses look nice, but I really do not need a 2nd pair of glasses, as nice as these look.
Lon, had no idea you used progressives. I bought the X-real Air glasses and struggle with using them for the same reason, however I've been too lazy to get the prescription lenses so far. The biggest issue I have with this concept is that many devices do not output video over USB including my Google Pixel phones.
Don't buy any AR/Display glasses. Unless you have a small head or you are a child(not an adult child). You need to know the IPD of your eyes and the distance between the screens of the AR/Display glasses before you buy a set. It's funny you watch reviews of AR/display glasses, the reviewers look like they are cross-eyed because the screens are set so close together. These reviewers are clueless to why the screen looks blurry on the outer right and left sides. The outer sides look blurry because there is no IPD/PD setting and the screens are set too close together. All the glasses look like they are made for a kid or an adult with a small head. The quest 2 has three settings IPD 58mm, 63mm, and 68mm. The quest 3 has a IPD setting with a range of 58mm - 71mm. I hope all the AR/Display glasses brands read this!
Once devices like this support 3D, they'll be worth considering But otherwise seems like a missed opportunity, there are a million ways to get a flat image... and in this case you have individual displays per-eye, so you could get perfect stereo without ghosting
Always wanted to try one of these! So its a dumb question when you first read it. But there's a reason.. Even being Oled youd think perfect blacks, but are they on this? Reason i ask, i had a Samsung Odyssey+ vr and the psvr1 headset. Oleds. But the blacks are just rough and elevated. An intentional design maybe? Limitations of super small displays? Id go as far as to say the quest 3 has better blacks than those 2 oled displays.
One quick note: most USB C hubs will not output USB video signals, so these glasses won't likely work if you are trying to plug into a conventional USB C hub on the market. This is relevant in case people are trying to conduct a power passthrough to their device (if it only has one USB C port, like the Steam Deck) while using the glasses.
Just got mine today Lon (using your link!) Man it's amazing how many of these glasses makers skimp on letting you adjust your PD. You can see from all the comments about blurryness in the corners that that is all folks having PD issues. With my PD (70) the blur is just atrocious! If I close one eye it looks amazing, but if they'd just let you adjust PD even if through a software adjustment (move the images toward the outside of the classes) they'd solve so many of these issues, though obviously a harware ability to move the lenses apart via a dial or even pushing with your fingers would fix this. As you also suggested a 'zoom out' would also somewhat ameliorate this.
But man is that picture gorgeous. On the fence about whether I'll return these.
Yeah the visual quality really surprised me! If only they could get a little adjustability into this market I think there would be lots of consumer interest.
Having the cable pre-attched like that is a design mistake. Easier to break and screwed if cable gets damaged.
Agree. It should be bluetooth, then it would be worth it.
@@Logan2070 If just a normal plug in like the Airs, that would be fine. Proprietary (since attached) seems silly.
@@Logan2070 Bluetooth doesn't have enough bandwidth to send display data.
Yeah it's also a design flaw in most USB hubs to have a cable built in. These are more expensive than the USB hubs I won't get anything but earbuds or headphones that have permanent cable attachments. With headphones it can be hard to find headphones 🎧 that have detachable cable when you need a cable like PS4 is very finicky about Bluetooth Headphones and the few times I've successfully connected Bluetooth headphones if I'm playing with someone and using pay audio chat I cut in and out. Something that's not an issue when I plug headphones into my duelshock 4 controller
I wish more companies would rethink permanently attached cables in their design if the cable gets damaged the whole device must be replaced. Can't seem to find any USB hubs with detachable cable
Finally a in depth informative review on the Lenovo Glasses. Other videos were more like click bait videos. Keep up the great work!
I wanted to use them for programming, thanks for the honest review about the text display issues, I guess I have to wait for the next iteration with 4k support.
found any better alternatives?
@@Hello-mu1et no, I gently don't care for now, I will probably wait a year or two until I look at this problem again.
@@_modiX makes sense. I really have a hard time to find glasses which will have real like monitor. Modern oled monitors such due to text issues and color accuracy with white.
@@Hello-mu1et yup, I think the tech is not there yet, at least not in our preferred form factor. The Apple vision for instance has the necessary resolution and quality for text and color accuracy, but it's too big and comes with an OS which I definitely don't want. To get this experience into simple glasses might require some more iterations down the line.
@@_modiX I wonder what is the display latency here when they have 120hz in glasses. Was thinking about getting it for gaming but picture quality feels like it's not even worth it yet. Normal monitors have 0.03ms-1ms latency for gaming.
I been using the Rokid air version with a iPad mini 6 cellular version. I haven’t turn on a tv in the last year or use a phone. Tablet and media glasses all I need for entertainment anymore.
Text is always where you really see if you have high resolution or not. 1080p at a 86 inch display perceived to be just a couple of metres away makes the pixels quite large.
This is the first of its kind from Lenovo so I’m going to wait for the next generation to use for my Legion Go
Just curious, does the Timex Sinclair on the shelf in the back still work? That was my first computer way back when
Thanks for the interesting review. It seems we are still not there yet… 😤🤔
Funny gadget. Thanks Lon!
could be useful if it took HDMI input with an adapter and worked with 3D.
As a fellow wearer of progressive lenses, how much did the add-ins cost you on top of the device itself?
The lenses cost me about a hundred bucks at the local place . Not cheap!
So we went from " don't get to close to the TV because it'll hurt your eyes" to strapping the TV right to our faces?
USB 3.0 Type-A connector also supports full HD video output with full audio & touchscreen support. Have you tried using a Type-A to Type-C adapter to see if it made any kind of difference? Or does it have a separate cable where you can replace it with a USB 3.x Type-A on one end with a USB 3.x Type-C on the other?
How does it compare to the quest 3 for movies? Have you tried connecting a firetv stick with it connected to a battery bank?
Only rated 2.5 on Lenovo's own website. Do not buy - check Lon's link to Lenovo 😂
As a wearer of thick coke bottle lenses I just feel completely left out by things like this and VR. The prices are already high and having to get a set of glasses made for every device is prohibitively expensive. I just don’t understand why there isn’t more effort put into making this stuff work out of the box for wearers of lenses.
I fly FPV and most of the expensive goggles ($400+) don't have + or - adjustments but the cheapest pair (~$120) from years ago did (EV100). There doesn't seem to be a good reason for them to ignore it other than laziness / profit
Isn’t this pentile oled? That would be why small text struggles, especially windows cleartype.
I have the Rokid. They have these dials that fix all the eye stuffystuff and work right up unless Yer blindish. Otherwise, all these things are huge, beautiful, 120" OLED displays up on Your nose...cep't that Rokid one doesn't require You to get glasses inserts. The 3500 dollar, 3 pound Apple face toy is gonna' make You get glasses fixers. Wonder how long people are gonna' like that on their head?
How big is the screen ? Compared to 15 inch monitor ?
Keep up the great work
I have nreal airs, and had to adjust my hdmi output - on my laptop to 200 times. I got a much better picture doing that. I also used from Amazon - PeakDo HDMI to USB C Adapter 4K@60Hz. as my hdmi - usb c connection. They work great to me. It made a real difference making my 2nd output screen (from my pc's view point - pun intended) 200 times. Of course I had to readjust my laptop's display back when I was done and that was kind of a pain, as I don't adjust my screen resolution too often and always have to think of the procedures on how to do it, every time. These glasses look nice, but I really do not need a 2nd pair of glasses, as nice as these look.
Lon, had no idea you used progressives. I bought the X-real Air glasses and struggle with using them for the same reason, however I've been too lazy to get the prescription lenses so far. The biggest issue I have with this concept is that many devices do not output video over USB including my Google Pixel phones.
The display quality is excellent? You can't read anything on the edges of the screen.
Would you recommend these over the Nreal Air 2, mainly for gaming and the odd movie
are you using weird lighting? the color temperature and saturation looks really off in your videos.
I can see myself having this connected to my laptop and walking off and pulling everything off the desk...
this is the future!
Don't buy any AR/Display glasses. Unless you have a small head or you are a child(not an adult child). You need to know the IPD of your eyes and the distance between the screens of the AR/Display glasses before you buy a set. It's funny you watch reviews of AR/display glasses, the reviewers look like they are cross-eyed because the screens are set so close together. These reviewers are clueless to why the screen looks blurry on the outer right and left sides. The outer sides look blurry because there is no IPD/PD setting and the screens are set too close together. All the glasses look like they are made for a kid or an adult with a small head. The quest 2 has three settings IPD 58mm, 63mm, and 68mm. The quest 3 has a IPD setting with a range of 58mm - 71mm. I hope all the AR/Display glasses brands read this!
Once devices like this support 3D, they'll be worth considering But otherwise seems like a missed opportunity, there are a million ways to get a flat image... and in this case you have individual displays per-eye, so you could get perfect stereo without ghosting
I feel like 3D is a dead tech because they did not come to tv and these type of glasses might not get 3D.
Chapulin Colorado like it!!
This works in xbox controler ?
This device. is too high maintenance, for me. How much? did those special glasses cost.
Will these work with a Nintendo Switch?
@Lon - How much give does it have on the sides? I have a pretty big head, so I'm worried it might be a tight fit.
So the sides have a hinge on them that fold out a bit - I should have demoed that more succinctly.
Thanks for confirming!@@LonSeidman
60 fps max = good for gaming? ehm sure 😒
@@DonJohn87_YT ehm everyone is not so rich and advance like you to have high rate fps for gaming😒
waiting for the one w a camera for ar
Try before you buy?
What NHL game are you playing on the Steam Deck?!?
It's actually a PS2 game :) NHL Hitz - really fun arcade hockey game.
Oh nice high tech displays. Oh no it has an attached cable
this glasses can connect to ps5?😅
it has speakers? oh god the last thing you want is to accidentally turn on those speakers when watching a vid 😉
What do you mean, stepbro?
Think these are made for people with better vision than you have.
Now put head tracking on them.
Always wanted to try one of these!
So its a dumb question when you first read it. But there's a reason.. Even being Oled youd think perfect blacks, but are they on this?
Reason i ask, i had a Samsung Odyssey+ vr and the psvr1 headset. Oleds. But the blacks are just rough and elevated. An intentional design maybe? Limitations of super small displays? Id go as far as to say the quest 3 has better blacks than those 2 oled displays.
Yeah they are good here but not quite up to par with my iPhone display
Hmmm. Are y'all the screens up our eyes in the name of VR good for our eyes?
Seems like a waste of $300+.
Cost to much.
TLDR: They're for pr0n.