How the Nick Foligno Trade To The Leafs Went Down

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • I find looking back at some of this stuff fascinating.
    Video Courtesy: All or Nothing: Toronto Maple Leafs, Episode 3, Amazon Prime
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Комментарии • 127

  • @stevev8079
    @stevev8079 5 месяцев назад +40

    Folded like a cheap suit on the draft pick. He’s all yours Pitt.

  • @deshawntrigga9657
    @deshawntrigga9657 5 месяцев назад +86

    Leafs legend Nick Foligno

    • @DarC_25
      @DarC_25 5 месяцев назад +3

      he will win a cup with chicago the one thing the leafs cant do

    • @GdF420
      @GdF420 5 месяцев назад

      A legend ? Really ?
      That sums it up how complaisant the Leafs (and fans) are

    • @sharon-sn9ys
      @sharon-sn9ys 5 месяцев назад +19

      @@GdF420bro doesn’t get sarcasm

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DarC_25 On their coaching staff?

    • @filipberes319
      @filipberes319 5 месяцев назад

      @@alexleblanc5926 does it matter?

  • @torontothegood
    @torontothegood 5 месяцев назад +56

    Dubas can’t negotiate

  • @ramirer9561
    @ramirer9561 4 месяца назад +7

    Shanny's eye was twitching after the trade lol

  • @doubllechief6926
    @doubllechief6926 5 месяцев назад +45

    Dubas played the young progressive role so well and conned everyone into thinking he knew what he was doing when in reality he got played by everyone he made a trade with and then somehow conned the Penguins into making him President of Operations.

    • @patrickgermanese1050
      @patrickgermanese1050 5 месяцев назад +4

      Wow, I thought I was the only one who picked up on what was really going on! He's a weasel who marches in homosexual/gay parades. The Leafs still don't have a solid goaltender. While they are about to watch Frederick Anderson and the Carolina Hurricanes go on a run to the conference final once again.

    • @TheBillaro
      @TheBillaro 5 месяцев назад +1

      1000% true.
      fsg will sack him in 2-3 more years.

    • @TheBillaro
      @TheBillaro 5 месяцев назад

      @@patrickgermanese1050truth. why did leaf fans run him out of town along with kadri. bunting.
      larry ffing murphy.
      whyyyyyyy

    • @patrickgermanese1050
      @patrickgermanese1050 5 месяцев назад

      @@TheBillaro The facts speak for themselves. From wikipedia:
      He began as head coach of the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim, whom he led to the 2003 Stanley Cup Finals. In 2005, Babcock signed with the Detroit Red Wings, winning the Stanley Cup with them in 2008, and helping them to the Stanley Cup playoffs every year during his tenure, becoming the winningest coach in Red Wings history.

    • @steve8803
      @steve8803 4 месяца назад

      @@patrickgermanese1050 Freddie is always injured.

  • @NickRants
    @NickRants 4 месяца назад +4

    For some reason Dubas loved to bring guys in at the deadline for them to be injured majority of the time

  • @timfronimos459
    @timfronimos459 4 месяца назад +11

    Why did Dufas walk out of the room when his leadership is right there listening. It aint a secret bro.

  • @Coatay
    @Coatay 5 месяцев назад +65

    He clearly lost the negotiation.
    Shanahan should've fired him sooner

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 5 месяцев назад +18

      Shanahan needs to fire himself

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 месяцев назад +2

      He lost nothing. He's not negotiating from a place of power. Foligno was a seller's market. Toronto was lucky they got him for the reason the scout said at the beginning - they had the weakest first round pick in the draft. Foligno probably preferred Toronto, and Columbus honored that. "clearly lost the negotiation." psssht. what do you know about negotiation?

    • @Coatay
      @Coatay 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jon8004
      a career brokering real estate for foreign buyers

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 месяцев назад

      @@Coatay And you say that proudly! Dude, there's no comparison between the NHL trade market and whatever you claim to be doing. The standards are different, the goals are different, and the timelines are wildly different. For one, there's a heck of a lot more scarcity in the NHL trade market than the real estate market. In the NHL, GMs routinely overpay because it's the only way to acquire an asset to address an urgent need. You apparently wanted Dubas to negotiate harder, which suggests that you don't understand all the reasons he didn't.

    • @Coatay
      @Coatay 5 месяцев назад +1

      Nice try Kyle

  • @zackashby9741
    @zackashby9741 3 месяца назад +2

    "we're the lowest value for our first" bold statement Mr First round exits

  • @nipzie
    @nipzie 5 месяцев назад +13

    What a useless "wonderboy". Negotiates hard for his own contract and gave RFAs insane contracts, while getting rid of all the first round picks.

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 месяцев назад +1

      Dude, all the top teams give away their first-round picks when they're trying to win. I'm a Caps fan. We traded away our first rounder nearly every single year when we were in the thick of it.

    • @nipzie
      @nipzie 3 месяца назад

      @@jon8004 dude....he signed 2nd contract RFAs to league leading contracts, making cap space tight then traded away the only way to get cheap contracts to fill the roster out. He royally fucked up a golden platter of talent

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 3 месяца назад

      @@nipzie He really didn't. All of the top guys he signed to those contracts could be traded away in a matter of hours for a handsome return. If he fucked up, the Leafs would be trapped. They've never been trapped. If they want out of Marner, they can trade Marner. Tavares? They can trade Tavares. Minnesota is trapped. San Jose, for the longest time, was trapped. Toronto isn't trapped. They've just been giving a core of elite players as much time as possible to convert on their talent. But they could pull the ripcord on any of them tomorrow. If Toronto wants to fill the roster out they can. If they need to trade picks to move money they can. They're in their prime. The goal should not be prospects, but roster-ready players.

  • @liltiger3
    @liltiger3 3 месяца назад +2

    One of the worst trades in Leafs history.

  • @juju31897
    @juju31897 4 месяца назад +6

    Horrific trade for Leafs

  • @panjsheri5682
    @panjsheri5682 4 месяца назад +6

    Waste of a trade. Left after another failed season.

  • @doodad19
    @doodad19 5 месяцев назад +11

    Should have gotten Mike Foligno instead

  • @nonokayakjack
    @nonokayakjack 4 месяца назад +3

    You can see right here how the paralysis and second-guessing creeps into EVERY decision in that market. The post game tradition in the Leafs dressing room after a win is so uptight and robotic it's hard to even watch. I sincerely feel sorry for Leaf players.

  • @jerryrikki9466
    @jerryrikki9466 5 месяцев назад +33

    Kyle dubas is the worst gm in the NHL, no business having that job anymore. Just pure incompetence

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 5 месяцев назад +5

      As a Caps fan, I can't wait to see Dubas win a Cup before Toronto.

    • @eriklakeland3857
      @eriklakeland3857 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jon8004not gonna happen. They both won’t win.

    • @jon8004
      @jon8004 4 месяца назад +1

      @@eriklakeland3857 I agree Toronto may not because their fans and media are just a brutal vice that squeezes the team until it disintegrates. But Dubas is perfectly capable of winning a Cup elsewhere.

    • @jonah.donohue
      @jonah.donohue 4 месяца назад

      ?????

    • @jerryrikki9466
      @jerryrikki9466 4 месяца назад

      @@jon8004 I'm not a Leafs fan and while this seems like a wild maybe hateful take it is just anyalitics. Kyle Dubas let 18 active nhl forwards come and go in his time as GM. Including Matthews and all their big guns, the top 14 of those forwards he didn't signed out scored the Leafs this year by a margin

  • @PlebWRLD
    @PlebWRLD 5 месяцев назад +4

    Reading the texts during the call, its interesting to see who the leafs were interested when adding D
    Kulikov for a 3rd
    Gologoski for a 2nd
    Oesterle for a 3rd
    and maybe Pateryn

  • @jetsdude8
    @jetsdude8 5 месяцев назад +5

    He overpaid as he always did. He's a little boy playing a video game and reacting to pressure rather than logic

  • @LeafsJellyHD
    @LeafsJellyHD 5 месяцев назад +10

    Appreciate these clips, if it’s possible, can you get the game 6/7 with reactions of players.

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  5 месяцев назад +1

      I'll be uploading a full montage in the coming days of the best bits. Will include it!

  • @asharpbflat7179
    @asharpbflat7179 5 месяцев назад +6

    That's a great insight!

  • @cmpaintball131
    @cmpaintball131 4 месяца назад +4

    This aged like milk

  • @martingrenier7780
    @martingrenier7780 4 месяца назад +2

    All that to lose to the Habs 🤣🤣

  • @Hahahawhatsup
    @Hahahawhatsup 3 месяца назад

    Nick Folingo really helped, thanks Dubas

  • @davesway1170
    @davesway1170 4 месяца назад +3

    One of Dubas' many busts as the Toronto Maple Leafs Gm

  • @ratedRblazin420
    @ratedRblazin420 2 месяца назад

    Imagine wearing a mask indoors thinking that
    helps
    The NHL should do a documentary like this again except next time follow a team that can actually win a playoff round

  • @brettfavreify
    @brettfavreify 2 месяца назад +1

    Expensive for a rental.

  • @timmanto1022
    @timmanto1022 4 месяца назад +1

    Lots of options but they went for Foligno.

  • @clarke4222
    @clarke4222 3 месяца назад

    You’ve got to be nuts to give up a 1st round pick for Foligno at this stage of his career. But it’s not all on Dubas, everyone in that room was pot committed, you really need someone to step up and say we’re getting a 35 point guy who’s playing in our bottom 6, surely we can find something similar for just a 3rd…… but there is this narrative that you need leadership, true, but not at the deadline. Team leaders start at camp and lead the group all season, it’s next to impossible to come in after the deadline and lead a group of strangers. Yarmo took the Leafs to the cleaners on this on.

  • @klausschraud7303
    @klausschraud7303 5 месяцев назад +2

    Bad deal considering you lost him the next season

  • @dslking
    @dslking 3 месяца назад

    Surrounded himself by yes guys. Where were the guys saying its Nick Foligno!!!!

  • @dro_dozer
    @dro_dozer 5 месяцев назад +5

    What a bum

  • @marcogomes9748
    @marcogomes9748 4 месяца назад

    another great trade by dubas

  • @SilvioBadaBing
    @SilvioBadaBing 4 месяца назад

    Wasn’t he dealt to San Jose and then Toronto to make it work ?

  • @Team-Zissou
    @Team-Zissou 4 месяца назад

    Capt. Obvious assistant GM ing for the Leafs. 'there are going to be 3 teams left at the alter'.
    Ya bud, that's kind of how it works.

  • @GdF420
    @GdF420 5 месяцев назад +6

    Does anyone care about this ?

    • @mcj44
      @mcj44 4 месяца назад

      People like you are annoying as fuck.

  • @BurningWater95
    @BurningWater95 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wish they'd do another season but the NHL is scared it makes the league look bad.

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  5 месяцев назад +3

      It’s been reported that another series with Amazon Prime and the NHL featuring 10-12 star players will come out this fall

    • @BurningWater95
      @BurningWater95 5 месяцев назад

      @@relelliott I heard that on spittin chiclets. Hopefully its good if it happens.

  • @MikeTheKoopaWarrior
    @MikeTheKoopaWarrior 4 месяца назад

    All For Nothing

  • @eriklakeland3857
    @eriklakeland3857 5 месяцев назад

    Dubas should’ve been canned years ago.

  • @TH1RDP3RSON
    @TH1RDP3RSON 4 месяца назад

    why is Bojack Horseman narrating this 😭

  • @redfisher5378
    @redfisher5378 4 месяца назад +3

    LOL… the masks.😂

  • @mojo847
    @mojo847 5 месяцев назад

    Dubas trading away all draft picks

  • @Intelpol-fz6hs
    @Intelpol-fz6hs 4 месяца назад

    so bad this look; especially, since it cost us Seth Jarvis and Nick was useless

  • @leochirichiello1101
    @leochirichiello1101 4 месяца назад

    Honestly all these guys in the comments know nothing about being a GM and just talk lol bet it’s just the old timers 🤣

  • @nateshnowske9583
    @nateshnowske9583 2 месяца назад

    Take of those face diapers!

  • @Noah1997callahan
    @Noah1997callahan 4 месяца назад

    That was an awful trade for the leafs lol

  • @bb-gc2tx
    @bb-gc2tx 4 месяца назад

    dubas is so typical of guys in his generation total beta

  • @DiscoLeafs
    @DiscoLeafs 4 месяца назад

    and we wonder how Dubas got fleeced in the contractual negotiations with the core four - "whatever" - says it all
    and Shanny oversaw all this. time to go.

  • @HunterMagunter
    @HunterMagunter 4 месяца назад

    Leafs are a joke

  • @codyhertzler2387
    @codyhertzler2387 4 месяца назад +2

    Waste of a franchise

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  4 месяца назад +1

      Waste of a RUclips account

    • @Wolfclanxp
      @Wolfclanxp 4 месяца назад +1

      @@relelliott great comeback

    • @relelliott
      @relelliott  4 месяца назад

      @@Wolfclanxp did I ask?

  • @Luda1010
    @Luda1010 5 месяцев назад +10

    why the hell are they wearing masks?

    • @Lekky93
      @Lekky93 5 месяцев назад +12

      Remember Covid? It was only what... 3-4 years ago.

    • @bangbangyoureaboolean1324
      @bangbangyoureaboolean1324 5 месяцев назад +9

      Do you even know what you're watching?

    • @Lekky93
      @Lekky93 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@bangbangyoureaboolean1324 I don't think bro knows what planet he on

    • @SnakePlissy
      @SnakePlissy 4 месяца назад

      Because they’re corporate sheep 🐑

  • @bb-gc2tx
    @bb-gc2tx 4 месяца назад

    looking back now those masks look so stupid on top of the fact they didnt protect you from anything 🤣

  • @ashtonb0419
    @ashtonb0419 3 месяца назад

    nobody gives a fuck about this trade 😭

  • @SnakePlissy
    @SnakePlissy 4 месяца назад

    Lol muzzled dogs on multiple fronts 😂