This and your commentary on Brooklyn 99 was spot on how its possible to have a show with diversity and jokes that a majority audience can enjoy and NOT be upset.
There was such a golden age of sitcoms about 15 years ago I guess. Those two, 30 rock, Parks and Rec, New Girl. Feel good, funny shows that had several good seasons. Thank goodness we can just stream whatever we like now
My favorite Office moments are the unlikely sweet friendship scenes between Pam and Dwight. A modern show would portray Dwight as an irredeemable racist misogynist with no depth, and Pam as a hyper confident snarky badass.
I shudder to think about how they would all be portrayed today. The Dwight Pam friendship is really cool. I love the message that pretty much everyone can have something in common
I know this is an old comment, but the last few episodes of the show really made Dwight into a nearly wholesome character. Despite being an unrepentant weirdo, he grew more than any other character in the show.
The one thing that's clear to me is Mindy Kaling got carried hard by B.J. Novak and Paul Lieberstein. And instead of learning from them, she just decided to recreate Kelly Kapoor in every subsequent project and make her more insane and unlikable. What a narcissist.
She reminds me of people my age who spew progressive ideas all the time, while also having being horribly hypocritical and morally dubious. We have so many shows with left wing ideals or a generally ideaglocial bent. Leftists are some of the most annoying people I've met lol. And I used to consider myself left wing.
Greg, I just discovered your channel yesterday and already you're one of my favorites. Keep dropping those truth bombs! Get this man a million subscribers now!
This show could never be made today, not because of audience sensibilities, but because of the creators sensibilities. I’m sure there are at least 5 channels currently playing re-runs of The Office at any given moment.
I'm actually curious what she actually wrote for the show. Because everything else she's done is trash. In fact I want to know how she got hired, considering her only previous credit was a pilot that didn't even get picked up.
It’s absolutely ridiculous that everyone says they could never make that show today, yet it’s still the most rewatched show of all time by every generation
@@gregowen2022 Because you're ignoring the implied asterisk. It couldn't be made *by the current studios, as they exist right now. Of course modern audiences would still love The Office. The studios however could not let the show exist without inserting editorial edicts on the story and messaging. Which network is it exactly you think that today, in 2024, would let such a popular property pass without getting involved to insert messaging? NBC? No amount of referencing audience popularity effects an argument based in the behavior of the studios.
The Office is still incredibly popular with modern viewers. It was set to leave Netflix this year in most of the international side of the company but they actually renewed the streaming rights in almost all those regions, including the UK. It would be extremely expensive to do so, which proves that people are still tuning in to it today in fairly large numbers.
@@gregowen2022 your channel is awesome! I'm binging it. Also, I haven't seen The Office yet but a lot of people seem to LOVE the Kevin+chili scene. I wonder why. I hope I to finally watch it some time in the future. Ricky Gervais is a hit or miss with me but this series just seems quite promising.
I can't watch the Kevin chili scene. It just breaks my heart kinda for the same reason the Pam gallery scene grows my heart. Kevin told us how much work it took to make the chili and he was so proud of it and then it was all wasted. Pam worked hard on those paintings and then Michael showed up and praised them and bought one. Her work almost went to waste in a way, but Michael saved it....I know I'm overthinking it....but I really can not watch that Kevin scene.
It's getting more and more true. I can't imagine walking up to a minority person and saying something like "I want you to know I'm an ally". The white knight ally mentality is so damn weird
I agree with you. However, I've never been able to watch The Office. I'm one of those people that feels embarrassed when a character does something embarrassing, and that show is filled with those moments. It physically makes me cringe. But you're right about the show.
"Writer" Mindy Kaling ostensibly wrote some of her own dialog for that title. It has been claimed that none of the scenarios or jokes were hers. After her solo projects, I'm inclined to believe that.
Based on the themes you've summed up, it's not a progressive show anymore, not by modern standards. I am so sick of people saying "you can't tell that joke anymore" or "you couldn't make that movie anymore". I get what people mean when they say that, but if everyone would stop saying it, maybe they COULD make those things again.
Yes! People still love those old ones. The new shows used to be pushing past the boundaries of the old and now they are just restricting restricting restricting. Going in reverse.
It's weird. Progressive used to mean "treat eveyone the same, you're not better than anyone". Now it seems to mean "we need to separate everyone by skin color and genitals". Feels regressive
You know what I can't stand about people like Mindy/"actors" they act like if the office was over 40 to 50 years ago no, just because they went insane doesn't mean the whole world followed them.
It's like that person who went on a diet a month ago and tries to convert everyone because they feel "so much better", then it's all they can talk about and they get all peachy. Enlightenment should be considered a mental disorder...
The Office will probably go down as the last great sit com. And yes, they even make Jim look like the bad guy a time or two. On another note, Greg I have that exact set of Lord of the Rings paperbacks. I got them as a birthday present when I was 12, back in 1979. Actually, exactly 44 years ago today. I've read them at least 8 times over the years, and love them and their worn, bedraggled pages. Cool to see them sitting on your book shelf as well. Keep the great content coming.
Pretty much. These shows either give their characters no flaws or make them cartoonishly exaggerated to the point where they don't resemble real people.
My favorite is literally anytime micheal is shown to be wildly competent, because you can see where his confidence stems from, also hate packer but love that he's is really friends with micheal . . . He's just an ass
Another good example is How I Met Your Mother. Barney Stinson was a comedic exaggeration of toxic masculinity, but he was still a complex character with a lot of deep nuisance and redeeming qualities of a good friend and a man who was just too scared to open up and be vulnerable again after his ex Shannon broke his heart. Schmidt from New Girl was also a good example because he wasn't just a douchebag, but a douchebag who had to learn that trying so hard to be a cool guy after growing up fat, wasn't the answer to his problems. He was a better guy when he was just himself, to the point where he finally got his dream girl Cece when he stopped trying to be so " playboy-y"
I only wish for this show to keep lasting, and for people to take more inspiration from Michael, As you said, there's plenty of people who are like him that are far entertaining than whatever box they're trying to fill in. Excellent video pal!!
Despite their best attempts to make Fred from Velma hateable, all the hate-watch reviews I saw said that he was their favorite if they had to pick. Even left-leaning hate-watchers. Which tells you something about how flawed characters are always more likeable than snarky Mary Sues
Allison Jones deserves a ton of credit for The Office's success. And Family Ties. And VEEP. And Brooklyn Nine Nine. And Parks and Recreation. And Freaks and Geeks. And Arrested Development, and... Not very many showrunners have this consistent level of success. What a rich legacy! I think in the future, she might even have an award named after her for her contribution to comedy.
100% agree on Scott's Tots. It's too uncomfortable to watch over and over, like I do with almost all the other episodes. Great, spot-on review of one of my top three shows of all time!!
I love The Big Bang Theory but apparently it’s “cringe” to the youths. New Girl is another show I dearly miss. Flawed human beings who help each other! Wow, what a concept these days! Great video!
The Office is one of the most rewatchable sitcoms. Even though ive seen every episode multiple times, i can rewatch it and it'll seem as fresh as the fitst time i saw it. Same with How i Met your Mother and Everybody Hates Chris.
I list respect due Mindy when she said she was offended by the show she was writing for, acting in and directing. It wax a successful popular show. I’ve never heard Mel brooks apologize for blazing saddles, nor should he ever.
There is no malice just ignorance that drives the character's inappropriate behaviours which in translate as hilarious and a don't do guidebook for the audience.
Greg, love your thoughts I've have seen most of your catalogue now despite being new here, have to say, according to my wife you are correct, on many things. Firstly, women don't want to be men, men want different things, your previous videos on the failures of female Disney heroes align with her own feelings on what femininity is. Second, I LOVED your video on what makes a proper man, as a father to a young son I can tell you working out has taken a back seat, but being able to defend my family has been supplemented via our second amendment. Sorry for rambling, just wanted to give a shout out for a great content creator telling it how it is!
Congratulations on your new family! I really appreciate the kind words. It's a very strange time where everyone is trying to blend men and women, and compare them. It's silly. We're different and unique.
Agree with most of what you said. But your working out comment strikes me as a bit odd. Working out is not about self/family defense. It is about your health and well being. In order for you to make your best contributions to your family, you have to be healthy. Those contributions include physical, mental, and emotional components, all of which are directly impacted by your health, and two of the greatest levers you have to impact those areas are good quality exercise and sleep.
I've not watched the Office (although I'm beginning to think I ought to), but I do remember a conversation I had not too long ago where someone asked why American advice towards humor is to laugh at yourself first--I told them that it was because if you can't laugh at yourself, then you take things far too seriously, and when you do that you can't find the humor in *anything*. That's why older sitcoms succeed while newer ones tend to fail--you need to be able to take the mickey out of *your own side* for the humor to truly sell, and not everybody tolerates that anymore.
I like when they where going to close the branch. Michael and Dwight go to try and save it and all after when everyone came to Scranton. Leading up to Prison Mike lol and then Andy getting Dwight to quit.
Office, of course, is still on in syndication and if syndicarion still works like it did when I was kid, it is on in a timeslot where it is more likely for kids to watch it.
Dwight's fake fire drill, but mostly forthe comedic value. I really liked when Andy got rid of Dwight and everyone realized that Dwight had a good impact on the office
I’m so glad you brought up the lawyer from She hulk. That guy was one of the worst characters I’ve seen in decades. I’m a big night court fan and it was like they just took Dan fielding and sucked all the charm out of him, leaving only the negative traits. Yes he was an asshole, but he had his limit, and he could do the right thing. The she Hulk lawyer was such a straw man I’m a mess. He didn’t have a crow on him at all times.
Shows/ movies that would never be made today: "Mad TV," "In Living color," "Boon Docs," "Black Dynamite," "I'm Gonna Git you Sucka""Space Balls" etc... None of these would ever be made but are so good and so funny while holding up a mirror to our society. Even though our "modern sensibilities" have supposedly changed I still see skits like Men on with a crap ton of views or youtubers doing reaction videos to them. Comedy should offend to some degree. The difference is rather its good natured or not. If our modern sensibilities have changed so much why is South Park still going strong ?
I think we'll get back there after the current insanity fades. Mary Hirsch is credited for calling comedy a rubber sword, since it makes a point without drawing blood. That's why the older comedy is still sought after, even if people don't openly admit it. New comedy isn't funny, either because they are terrified to make fun of anyone, or because only certain groups are now fair game and the remarks are malicious underneath
Norman Lear is the crown king of progressive comedy. And it was beloved by millions no matter their political stripe. The Office WISHES it had the kind of legacy that All In The Family, The Jeffersons, Maude, Good Times, or any of his others, has.
My favorite scenes from the office... are... the memes. Why you ask? Because that is the only time I have ever seen the show. Sitcoms on TV, ten years ago? Ugh! Maybe the The Office was a gem in a sea of crapulence but that is what killed it for me, every other network was like, see sitcoms are all crap. So I wrote it off the list. I checked sitcoms at the time it aired, it's like reading a TV guide from hell.
Watching this as an outsider, I never watched the office cuz I hated the first few things my friends showed me 😂 But it's RICH for Mindy to say this about the office which has massive fans compared to that abysmal Velma ....and it's horrible characters
Mindy Kaling is probably just admitting that *she* couldn't write a new "The Office", which would be partly because there aren't any new episodes of the original series (starring Ricky Gervaise) to crib from, nor do any of the other writers working on the US version probably want to ̷d̷o̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ work ̷f̷o̷r̷ with her.
Another great sitcom with diversity ( that's not woke ) is Modern Family. It's hilarious and heartfelt and it gives all of the characters depth in different ways. The show 1883 is great too!
Greg i love your vids, even though you're too kind to certain modern rubbish that's undeserving of the credit you give it (imo), not talking about d'office, it's great, uk and us.
My favorite moment was when everyone realized Jim was the real villain of the show. I’m just kidding. It was when I turned it off for the last time because cringe comedy isn’t funny.
Michael isn't an idiot savant when it comes to sales he's a natural salesman, but a terrible manager. Basically the skills that got him promoted were useless in his current situation so he's just a mess.
They either trying to hard to be progressive or try to hard to be edgy and „anti“ progressive. I would love a show that is like most of us: not annoying everyone with they opinion
The office seems a lot more tasteful and universally acceptable than Mindy Kaling's "Velma." That show was much more offensive to the one group it targeted white men, it was much more crass for the sake of being crass than the more thought out jokes of the Office. They say shows couldn't be made today, but that is not because the shows are wrong and people today are more sophisticated and moral, it's because modern audiences are being brainwashed to reject art, intelligence, critical thinking, logic, their innate survival instincts, their intuition, and everything that made humans human and helped them evolve and grow as a species. By taking all those abilities away, you have a bunch of moldable NPC's.
I appreciate it! It's funny that progressive used to mean "work with everyone, we have more in common than our superficial labels suggest" and now, hilariously, it is coming to mean "my superficial label is my entire identity and other labels are my enemy"
Imagine being so inept and coddled in your bubble that you think you couldn't write 'The Office' anymore, when the absurdity that is Always Sunny *still* exists. Mindy was ON that show...for an episode...and she was terrible... For all it's surface level appearances, there's an argument to be had for Always Sunny also being a 'progressive' or at least left-leaning show, because the humour and absurdity of the show is always at the EXPENSE of terrible characters. It's absolutely hyperbolic in much of it's delivery, but that's what makes it unique and funny. Hearing your reasons for how The Office was 'progressive' and why it worked, I couldn't help but compare it to Always Sunny.
Always Sunny is hilarious, and I didn't even think of it that way before you said that. They are the embodiment of what not to do and it works so well.
I disagree, I think if The Office were released now it would still be a big hit. I guess the ultra-sensitive radical left might whine but I don’t think it’d be cancelled… the genius of Michael is that while he’s inadvertently racist or sexist or whatever, it comes from a place of genuine love and misunderstanding, not hate.
Never could get into that show. Not because of Michael Scott's gaffes in and of themselves, but because he is so damned cartoony *COMPARED TO THE OTHER CAST MEMBERS,* I am taken right back out of the show every time he says something intended to be funny and cringy. The only other person in that show who comes close to Michael in terms of cartoonyness is Dwight, but he's not the boss. It would be like bringing back the GI Joe animated series, with Roadblock and Duke and Lady Jaye and Snake Eyes and all the rest....but making Homer Simpson the leader of that strike force.
I think youre falling to survivorship bias by comparing recent shows with probably the best sitcom ever made (depending how you define sitcom). Plenty of garbage came out from 2005-2013 too, and it was garbage in different ways than todays garbage is, but it didnt stick around. Similarly, plenty of great shows have come out in the decade since the office too. Bojack horseman is incredibly woke, and is also much better than the office. Recently some big companies have made the same mistake, which you outline, but its in no way a trend of new shows.
This show was just.............some of the most boring crap on tv. And I couldn't even watch the original British version. Next to 30 Rock and a few others.
Honestly, the existence of Velma is way more offensive than the Office would ever be imo.
Hard agree
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Velma is a series written from a place of hate.
This and your commentary on Brooklyn 99 was spot on how its possible to have a show with diversity and jokes that a majority audience can enjoy and NOT be upset.
Agreed 😌
There was such a golden age of sitcoms about 15 years ago I guess. Those two, 30 rock, Parks and Rec, New Girl. Feel good, funny shows that had several good seasons. Thank goodness we can just stream whatever we like now
@@gregowen2022 Facts. I don't want to imagine if we had the content we have now during a time before youtube and streaming 🤣
@@gregowen2022 The New girl was great.
My favorite Office moments are the unlikely sweet friendship scenes between Pam and Dwight. A modern show would portray Dwight as an irredeemable racist misogynist with no depth, and Pam as a hyper confident snarky badass.
I shudder to think about how they would all be portrayed today. The Dwight Pam friendship is really cool. I love the message that pretty much everyone can have something in common
I know this is an old comment, but the last few episodes of the show really made Dwight into a nearly wholesome character. Despite being an unrepentant weirdo, he grew more than any other character in the show.
@@gregowen2022In that regard, they really couldn’t make it today.
The one thing that's clear to me is Mindy Kaling got carried hard by B.J. Novak and Paul Lieberstein. And instead of learning from them, she just decided to recreate Kelly Kapoor in every subsequent project and make her more insane and unlikable. What a narcissist.
She reminds me of people my age who spew progressive ideas all the time, while also having being horribly hypocritical and morally dubious. We have so many shows with left wing ideals or a generally ideaglocial bent. Leftists are some of the most annoying people I've met lol. And I used to consider myself left wing.
Greg, I just discovered your channel yesterday and already you're one of my favorites. Keep dropping those truth bombs! Get this man a million subscribers now!
Thank you so much! Kind comments like this are what helps to get there
This show could never be made today, not because of audience sensibilities, but because of the creators sensibilities. I’m sure there are at least 5 channels currently playing re-runs of The Office at any given moment.
I swear Mindy Kaling is just as psychotic as her character from the office.
The only thing I can think when looking at her and her uh new look is "She stole my mom's diabetes meds"
Well, you know what they say. Write what you know. And Mindy only knows how to be an awful excuse for a human.
Probably because she based the character on herself. That's all she knows how to do.
Rumor has it Kelly wasn't a real character. It was just Mindy wandering on to the set during filming.
I'm actually curious what she actually wrote for the show. Because everything else she's done is trash. In fact I want to know how she got hired, considering her only previous credit was a pilot that didn't even get picked up.
It’s absolutely ridiculous that everyone says they could never make that show today, yet it’s still the most rewatched show of all time by every generation
Right? How could you think something that popular couldn't be made?
Because execs are scared of the 1% of crybabies as if they are the majority. It's why wokeness exists at all.
@@gregowen2022 Because you're ignoring the implied asterisk.
It couldn't be made *by the current studios, as they exist right now.
Of course modern audiences would still love The Office. The studios however could not let the show exist without inserting editorial edicts on the story and messaging. Which network is it exactly you think that today, in 2024, would let such a popular property pass without getting involved to insert messaging? NBC?
No amount of referencing audience popularity effects an argument based in the behavior of the studios.
The Office is still incredibly popular with modern viewers. It was set to leave Netflix this year in most of the international side of the company but they actually renewed the streaming rights in almost all those regions, including the UK. It would be extremely expensive to do so, which proves that people are still tuning in to it today in fairly large numbers.
One of my favorite moments is when Michael is the only one to show up to Pam’s art gallery showing and when Kevin spilled his chili 😂
Michael showing up for Pam was so damn wholesome! Oh man, the chili. He's swimming in it! haha
@@gregowen2022 your channel is awesome! I'm binging it.
Also, I haven't seen The Office yet but a lot of people seem to LOVE the Kevin+chili scene. I wonder why.
I hope I to finally watch it some time in the future. Ricky Gervais is a hit or miss with me but this series just seems quite promising.
I can't watch the Kevin chili scene. It just breaks my heart kinda for the same reason the Pam gallery scene grows my heart. Kevin told us how much work it took to make the chili and he was so proud of it and then it was all wasted. Pam worked hard on those paintings and then Michael showed up and praised them and bought one. Her work almost went to waste in a way, but Michael saved it....I know I'm overthinking it....but I really can not watch that Kevin scene.
Haha the fat guy spilled chili haha this is so genius lmao there's chili everywhere hahaha
Mindy would have a heart attack if she knew about anime :v
Also my favorite moments in The Office? Literally every "That's What She Said" moment :v
TWSS lines are so good!
The irony is that Michael Scott embodies the woke white person way more often then he embodies the oblivious Gen X dudebro.
It's getting more and more true. I can't imagine walking up to a minority person and saying something like "I want you to know I'm an ally".
The white knight ally mentality is so damn weird
I agree with you. However, I've never been able to watch The Office. I'm one of those people that feels embarrassed when a character does something embarrassing, and that show is filled with those moments. It physically makes me cringe. But you're right about the show.
Understandable then. The cringe moments are strong and often
I am the same, I love the show but I have to watch in small doses bc the secondhand embarrassment is intense 🤣🤣🤣
I hit the like button EVERY TIME you do those pro moves. Perfect execution.
I’m happy your channel is growing. You make great content and have very unique takes. You’re going to be big soon, keep it up man!
That kind of encouragement really means a lot to me. Thank you so much!
Love almost every Office episode-exceptions included The Dinner Party, Scott’s Tots, and a lot of the last season’s over-focus on Jim and Pam.
Call me a immature clown, but I still die laughing at “the Sheriff is a N…” gag from blazing saddles
I still think it's hilarious, but when a black person tells me they dont, I don't argue
"Welcome to our new word I can't say" all in the delivery.
Same 😂😂
And "Dead N storage" in Pulp Fiction 😂
"Writer" Mindy Kaling ostensibly wrote some of her own dialog for that title. It has been claimed that none of the scenarios or jokes were hers.
After her solo projects, I'm inclined to believe that.
I would believe it, too. Every one of her characters is Kelly Kapoor
Based on the themes you've summed up, it's not a progressive show anymore, not by modern standards.
I am so sick of people saying "you can't tell that joke anymore" or "you couldn't make that movie anymore". I get what people mean when they say that, but if everyone would stop saying it, maybe they COULD make those things again.
Yes! People still love those old ones. The new shows used to be pushing past the boundaries of the old and now they are just restricting restricting restricting. Going in reverse.
They think too much about the communities they could POSSIBLY offend in twatter
It's weird. Progressive used to mean "treat eveyone the same, you're not better than anyone". Now it seems to mean "we need to separate everyone by skin color and genitals". Feels regressive
People could still do it. The problem is most people don't have the balls to do it.
You know what I can't stand about people like Mindy/"actors" they act like if the office was over 40 to 50 years ago no, just because they went insane doesn't mean the whole world followed them.
It's like that person who went on a diet a month ago and tries to convert everyone because they feel "so much better", then it's all they can talk about and they get all peachy. Enlightenment should be considered a mental disorder...
The Office will probably go down as the last great sit com. And yes, they even make Jim look like the bad guy a time or two. On another note, Greg I have that exact set of Lord of the Rings paperbacks. I got them as a birthday present when I was 12, back in 1979. Actually, exactly 44 years ago today. I've read them at least 8 times over the years, and love them and their worn, bedraggled pages. Cool to see them sitting on your book shelf as well. Keep the great content coming.
Totally agree. I would put The Goldbergs in that category too. Even though the last couple of seasons weren't that good.
Pretty much. These shows either give their characters no flaws or make them cartoonishly exaggerated to the point where they don't resemble real people.
None of them reflect reality in any way. It's all so online feeling
My favorite is literally anytime micheal is shown to be wildly competent, because you can see where his confidence stems from, also hate packer but love that he's is really friends with micheal . . . He's just an ass
Another good example is How I Met Your Mother. Barney Stinson was a comedic exaggeration of toxic masculinity, but he was still a complex character with a lot of deep nuisance and redeeming qualities of a good friend and a man who was just too scared to open up and be vulnerable again after his ex Shannon broke his heart. Schmidt from New Girl was also a good example because he wasn't just a douchebag, but a douchebag who had to learn that trying so hard to be a cool guy after growing up fat, wasn't the answer to his problems. He was a better guy when he was just himself, to the point where he finally got his dream girl Cece when he stopped trying to be so " playboy-y"
So true. And we got to see really good growth with both of those characters. We saw them come to the realization about their lives in a natural way
That's what I loved the most about Barney. He was very supportive to his friends.
Glad I'm subscribed before you hit 1m. You're entertaining and informative.
I really appreciate it! One day, that million would be amazing
"Dinner Party" is the greatest moment. Nothing tops that for me. The ending is just perfect.
That is a fantastic episode!
Slight oakey afterbirth
I only wish for this show to keep lasting, and for people to take more inspiration from Michael, As you said, there's plenty of people who are like him that are far entertaining than whatever box they're trying to fill in. Excellent video pal!!
Thank you so much!
I also wish it would have kept going, or rather that Steve Carrel had stayed. Things soured quickly without him
This channel and SPACE ICE are some of my favorite channels!
I love the office. Still watch it frequently
I am SO proud of you for using "That's what she said" in Exactly the right spot.
Mwah, chef's kiss!
Despite their best attempts to make Fred from Velma hateable, all the hate-watch reviews I saw said that he was their favorite if they had to pick. Even left-leaning hate-watchers. Which tells you something about how flawed characters are always more likeable than snarky Mary Sues
Allison Jones deserves a ton of credit for The Office's success. And Family Ties. And VEEP. And Brooklyn Nine Nine. And Parks and Recreation. And Freaks and Geeks. And Arrested Development, and...
Not very many showrunners have this consistent level of success. What a rich legacy! I think in the future, she might even have an award named after her for her contribution to comedy.
Always appreciate the Master P and No Limit Soldier references. Great video, as always.
Thank you so much!
Just watching this now, but I laughed out loud Greg the way you said Velma was a piece of sh*t. Classic.
I just found your videos and am loving them - keep it up
Thank you so much for the encouragement!
100% agree on Scott's Tots. It's too uncomfortable to watch over and over, like I do with almost all the other episodes.
Great, spot-on review of one of my top three shows of all time!!
I love The Big Bang Theory but apparently it’s “cringe” to the youths. New Girl is another show I dearly miss. Flawed human beings who help each other! Wow, what a concept these days! Great video!
She just did an adult rated show with racy humor what exactly does she mean can not be done today.
Right? Velma was 100 times worse than the worst Office moment!
This is quality work. I love it.
My favorite office moment is scotts tots becuase I cringe so hard I can feel my soul leaving my body
It hurt just watching the clip I grabbed!
So cringe. So. So. So cringe.
The Office is one of the most rewatchable sitcoms. Even though ive seen every episode multiple times, i can rewatch it and it'll seem as fresh as the fitst time i saw it. Same with How i Met your Mother and Everybody Hates Chris.
Watch the original UK version. Less than 8 hours and all killer no filler.
Yes! UK version was great. British humor doesn't get enough love
I list respect due Mindy when she said she was offended by the show she was writing for, acting in and directing. It wax a successful popular show. I’ve never heard Mel brooks apologize for blazing saddles, nor should he ever.
There is no malice just ignorance that drives the character's inappropriate behaviours which in translate as hilarious and a don't do guidebook for the audience.
Great video Greg! Love the office and your are right on point sir!
Thank you sir! I think I want my cow named Dwight
I agree with not being able to watch Scott's Totts... I thought I was the only one. Whew, nice to have an ally.
Greg, love your thoughts I've have seen most of your catalogue now despite being new here, have to say, according to my wife you are correct, on many things. Firstly, women don't want to be men, men want different things, your previous videos on the failures of female Disney heroes align with her own feelings on what femininity is. Second, I LOVED your video on what makes a proper man, as a father to a young son I can tell you working out has taken a back seat, but being able to defend my family has been supplemented via our second amendment. Sorry for rambling, just wanted to give a shout out for a great content creator telling it how it is!
Congratulations on your new family! I really appreciate the kind words.
It's a very strange time where everyone is trying to blend men and women, and compare them. It's silly. We're different and unique.
Agree with most of what you said. But your working out comment strikes me as a bit odd. Working out is not about self/family defense. It is about your health and well being. In order for you to make your best contributions to your family, you have to be healthy. Those contributions include physical, mental, and emotional components, all of which are directly impacted by your health, and two of the greatest levers you have to impact those areas are good quality exercise and sleep.
Favorite moments goes to either Asian Jim, or, I'll just call it: "Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica"
Hahaha, the Identity Theft was hilarious
thank you for making sure the c# book is in view, much appreicated 🙏
Of course!
Dodgeball is an amazing movie that would never be made today
Thank you for understanding this show
It's just so good. Pains me when people lump it in as "just another comedy sitcom"
The Office is my favorite show!
Gotta listen to Hall & Oates now.
Time well spent, for sure
I've not watched the Office (although I'm beginning to think I ought to), but I do remember a conversation I had not too long ago where someone asked why American advice towards humor is to laugh at yourself first--I told them that it was because if you can't laugh at yourself, then you take things far too seriously, and when you do that you can't find the humor in *anything*. That's why older sitcoms succeed while newer ones tend to fail--you need to be able to take the mickey out of *your own side* for the humor to truly sell, and not everybody tolerates that anymore.
I can notbwatch Scott's Tots, it's too painful!
I like when they where going to close the branch. Michael and Dwight go to try and save it and all after when everyone came to Scranton. Leading up to Prison Mike lol and then Andy getting Dwight to quit.
Michael and Dwight thinking they saved the branch was so great!
People need to see this
Office, of course, is still on in syndication and if syndicarion still works like it did when I was kid, it is on in a timeslot where it is more likely for kids to watch it.
Dwight's fake fire drill, but mostly forthe comedic value. I really liked when Andy got rid of Dwight and everyone realized that Dwight had a good impact on the office
I’m so glad you brought up the lawyer from She hulk. That guy was one of the worst characters I’ve seen in decades. I’m a big night court fan and it was like they just took Dan fielding and sucked all the charm out of him, leaving only the negative traits. Yes he was an asshole, but he had his limit, and he could do the right thing. The she Hulk lawyer was such a straw man I’m a mess. He didn’t have a crow on him at all times.
Shows/ movies that would never be made today: "Mad TV," "In Living color," "Boon Docs," "Black Dynamite," "I'm Gonna Git you Sucka""Space Balls" etc... None of these would ever be made but are so good and so funny while holding up a mirror to our society. Even though our "modern sensibilities" have supposedly changed I still see skits like Men on with a crap ton of views or youtubers doing reaction videos to them.
Comedy should offend to some degree. The difference is rather its good natured or not. If our modern sensibilities have changed so much why is South Park still going strong ?
I think we'll get back there after the current insanity fades. Mary Hirsch is credited for calling comedy a rubber sword, since it makes a point without drawing blood. That's why the older comedy is still sought after, even if people don't openly admit it. New comedy isn't funny, either because they are terrified to make fun of anyone, or because only certain groups are now fair game and the remarks are malicious underneath
Norman Lear is the crown king of progressive comedy. And it was beloved by millions no matter their political stripe. The Office WISHES it had the kind of legacy that All In The Family, The Jeffersons, Maude, Good Times, or any of his others, has.
I have never watched the US version of the office, only the UK version.
My favorite scenes from the office... are... the memes. Why you ask? Because that is the only time I have ever seen the show. Sitcoms on TV, ten years ago? Ugh! Maybe the The Office was a gem in a sea of crapulence but that is what killed it for me, every other network was like, see sitcoms are all crap. So I wrote it off the list. I checked sitcoms at the time it aired, it's like reading a TV guide from hell.
hahaha, well I think you're missing out, but even the memes are good by themselves
So, I'm banging on the subscribe button and nothing is happening.
The likes and comments are helping! Thank you
@@gregowen2022 Not a problem. I love your series.
Watching this as an outsider, I never watched the office cuz I hated the first few things my friends showed me 😂
But it's RICH for Mindy to say this about the office which has massive fans compared to that abysmal Velma ....and it's horrible characters
Right? How can she say the office is offensive when she was working on THAT?!
Mindy Kaling is probably just admitting that *she* couldn't write a new "The Office", which would be partly because there aren't any new episodes of the original series (starring Ricky Gervaise) to crib from, nor do any of the other writers working on the US version probably want to ̷d̷o̷ ̷t̷h̷e̷ work ̷f̷o̷r̷ with her.
Another great sitcom with diversity ( that's not woke ) is Modern Family. It's hilarious and heartfelt and it gives all of the characters depth in different ways. The show 1883 is great too!
Do I have to know anything about Yellowstone to get 1883?
@@gregowen2022 No. Yellowstone is set after 1883.
Greg i love your vids, even though you're too kind to certain modern rubbish that's undeserving of the credit you give it (imo), not talking about d'office, it's great, uk and us.
My favorite moment was when everyone realized Jim was the real villain of the show. I’m just kidding. It was when I turned it off for the last time because cringe comedy isn’t funny.
The person who the wrote the execrable Valma should not have an opinion
You know, it wouldn't be so funny if we didn't already know it's bad. That's uh.. kinda the point
I think you will hit 100,000 subscribers in a year.
I certainly hope so! Encouraging comments like yours are how to get there, thank you so much
Michael isn't an idiot savant when it comes to sales he's a natural salesman, but a terrible manager. Basically the skills that got him promoted were useless in his current situation so he's just a mess.
They either trying to hard to be progressive or try to hard to be edgy and „anti“ progressive. I would love a show that is like most of us: not annoying everyone with they opinion
Who are the modern audience where are they😂😂
I love your cardboard RUclips Button 🤣🤣😂
My kids custom made me a 1k sub button. Even if I get a real gold one, the cardboard button will be superior
Great video, great channel. I too will not watch Scott's Tot's.
Thank you, I'm glad you're enjoying it
I have that EXACT SAME C# BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's so good! I love the relaxed style
The office seems a lot more tasteful and universally acceptable than Mindy Kaling's "Velma." That show was much more offensive to the one group it targeted white men, it was much more crass for the sake of being crass than the more thought out jokes of the Office. They say shows couldn't be made today, but that is not because the shows are wrong and people today are more sophisticated and moral, it's because modern audiences are being brainwashed to reject art, intelligence, critical thinking, logic, their innate survival instincts, their intuition, and everything that made humans human and helped them evolve and grow as a species. By taking all those abilities away, you have a bunch of moldable NPC's.
Continuing to enjoy your content... Only disagreement here is calling the office "progressive".
I appreciate it!
It's funny that progressive used to mean "work with everyone, we have more in common than our superficial labels suggest" and now, hilariously, it is coming to mean "my superficial label is my entire identity and other labels are my enemy"
@@gregowen2022 I see you also have a dark sense of humor. It seems like so much these days is finding ways to laugh while the house is on fire.
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Mindy Kaling has no talent. That's why not you Mindy.
Love the show. You sir are a hack.
Imagine being so inept and coddled in your bubble that you think you couldn't write 'The Office' anymore, when the absurdity that is Always Sunny *still* exists. Mindy was ON that show...for an episode...and she was terrible... For all it's surface level appearances, there's an argument to be had for Always Sunny also being a 'progressive' or at least left-leaning show, because the humour and absurdity of the show is always at the EXPENSE of terrible characters. It's absolutely hyperbolic in much of it's delivery, but that's what makes it unique and funny. Hearing your reasons for how The Office was 'progressive' and why it worked, I couldn't help but compare it to Always Sunny.
Always Sunny is hilarious, and I didn't even think of it that way before you said that. They are the embodiment of what not to do and it works so well.
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I disagree, I think if The Office were released now it would still be a big hit. I guess the ultra-sensitive radical left might whine but I don’t think it’d be cancelled… the genius of Michael is that while he’s inadvertently racist or sexist or whatever, it comes from a place of genuine love and misunderstanding, not hate.
Why does Mindy look like that, what happened to her face??
Never could get into that show.
Not because of Michael Scott's gaffes in and of themselves, but because he is so damned cartoony *COMPARED TO THE OTHER CAST MEMBERS,* I am taken right back out of the show every time he says something intended to be funny and cringy. The only other person in that show who comes close to Michael in terms of cartoonyness is Dwight, but he's not the boss.
It would be like bringing back the GI Joe animated series, with Roadblock and Duke and Lady Jaye and Snake Eyes and all the rest....but making Homer Simpson the leader of that strike force.
Mindy Kaling was the most unnecessary charector on The Office.
Haha😂I won't watch Scott's tots either
Late to the party, buy what about the British version?
I think youre falling to survivorship bias by comparing recent shows with probably the best sitcom ever made (depending how you define sitcom). Plenty of garbage came out from 2005-2013 too, and it was garbage in different ways than todays garbage is, but it didnt stick around. Similarly, plenty of great shows have come out in the decade since the office too. Bojack horseman is incredibly woke, and is also much better than the office. Recently some big companies have made the same mistake, which you outline, but its in no way a trend of new shows.
Of course, you picked the AMERICAN version instead of the original UK version. (sigh) Americans are all the same...
This show was just.............some of the most boring crap on tv. And I couldn't even watch the original British version.
Next to 30 Rock and a few others.
i never liked the show found it boring and the kids in my school wouldn't shut up about it
It’s the most overrated sitcom of all time. I still enjoy it, but there is definitely better stuff out there. (Community and arrested development)
mindy kaling..... waaay over rated.
People need to stop shitting on blazing saddles, just because it makes fun of white people and racist, people got a problem with it.
I tihnk it's funny, but if a black person tells me they don't like it, I'm not going to argue about it.
A woke shitty Office series… Just what Australia needed… after them Olympic games… 💃 🦘