Good Trope, Bad Trope: Remakes
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My fiancé told me she like The Last Airbender. I almost left her. After I made her watch the whole series she said she would have understood if I had.
My wife and I also experienced the movie 1st and thought it was just regular bad. After watching the series, I don't know how it could be intentionally made worse.
😂😂😂She understood.
It’s THAT bad
This comment just made my day
But Harry Potter WAS diverse! Lee Jordan, Blaise Zabini, Cho Chang, Padma and Parvati Patil, Dean Thomas, Angelina Johnson...I could go on...Like how DiVeRsE are people expecting 1990's Scotland to be?
It has never mattered and it will never be good enough. The quest for superficial diversity is slacktivism at its finest
@gregowen2022 Yep, to them it's only "diverse" if not a SINGLE white person but the villains is in it! Harry Potter was "wrong" for not making all the white people evil!
As a black man, I start to wonder how many of these clowns have self hatred issues and are taking it out on white people (Such Losers are in for a TERRIBLE Awakening once they stop drinking the Kool-aid and smell the 🌹! This is going to be the part of their life they will NOT look fondly back on except "never again!" If they even get the chance)
I'm not a fan and even I know that! What diverse means is not enough black and ghey.
The Harry Potter casting was so perfect, there is no way they can improve it.
I think they can improve the characterization of the main 4 kid characters, but the actors themselves will be hard to beat (besides Ginny though I never know if that is the actress or just terrible writing for her). But the adult characters were all pretty much perfect and beautifully cast. Don't know how they can beat them. Dumbledore could be better, but every other adult character was excellent.
The cast was mostly great, not perfect. Even Alan Rickman, while his take on Snape was amazing they softened the character too much. It made everyone love him. Book Snape was much more reprehensible, which imho made his sacrifices all the more compelling. Plus he was way too old, which made them have to age up Harry’s parents. This made the tragedy of their young deaths (21) less impactful.
I think they have a lot of material and character development that can be fleshed out better in a tv series. But I’m not hopeful, I’ve been burned before. I’m looking at you Stephen King’s “The Stand” new tv series!
@@hey_mickey1981 I agree that a TV series could easily do a better job of character development than the movies. I don't really watch the movies. Every time I start, it gets me in the Harry Potter spirit with the cast and music and mood, and I just reread the books instead. They don't tell the story well to me. But I do think most of the actors did a fantastic job of bringing many of the characters (especially more of the side characters like Neville, Luna, McGonagall, etc.) to life. So many of the main characters are much deeper and richer in the books than in the movies and that could be done better in a TV show. But I have almost no faith in modern Hollywood to get it right, so I'm not eagerly anticipating this or anything. More likely, I'll check it out hoping to be positively surprised.
Agreed. The trouble is that everyone is in love with the movie versions, so even if the new characters are as good, our feelings will always be with the originals
My favorite remake was Jumanji with The Rock, Jack Black and Co. It was a new Jumanji movie with the same plot but it was fun, unique and a good time that just wanted you to have fun and laugh. My favorite running gag is how the game REALLY hates Jack black's character.
Does it count as a remake? I'd say it would be better defined as a sequel.
At the risk of being pedantic, wouldn't it be considered a sequel? The film establishes that it was set after the 1995 film, in the same time, and Jumanji was originally a board game. They even make reference to the Alan Parrish.
It's a great soft reboot! entertaining and they do something different and ceeative with the concept. but technically it's a sequel to Robin Williams Jumanji.
@@williamwalton9154 I still don't know the difference, but I still liked how they remade it for a new audience with the use of videogames instead of board games.
@@chrisbellard2884 pedantic "um actually" fun to boost engagement for the creator.
I really like them as well.
10:11 For me the biggest thing I LOATHED about the Last Airbender was the bending. In the show every movement did something and it made the fights look fantastical because no movement looked wasted. In The Last Airbender it's like the characters needed to do a bunch of otherwise pointless gestures just to get one thing to happen, like pressing a combo in a fighting game, it made all the Benders look like complete idiots who could probably get more done with regular weapons.
If you're watching a movie and any part of it makes you bust out laughing and fills you with any sense of warm joy, the movie was not made in the last ten years and yes, laughter is also how you decide if the content is "problematic ".
My pet peeve is that they don't remake movies that had a high concept but poor execution or movies that might not have been seen by people. For instance in the 80s there were these Golan-Globus movies -- horribly cheaply made -- but some had good scripts and good ideas. Take those and just improve the parts that didn't work and call it something else. And you would have the core audience who did see the movie over the years.
That bothers me as well. We have better technology and some older movies are really incredible, save for their visuals. Update those!
So this is maybe more of an adaptation than a remake, but 1985's Clue is one of my favorite movies!
Man, I could watch that movie over and over forever!
@@613harbinger316 seriously it is so good!
That one is brilliant. Now there’s a movie I would watch a new version of, but I don’t know if the cast exists today
@@gregowen2022 seriously, I don't know who comes in and replaces Tim Curry, Madeline Kahn, Christopher Lloyd, Martin Mull, and frankly that entire cast!
Absolute facts. Remakes are great when they're able to be used to improve something that has promise, like the Dune example, as well as the upcoming Haunted Mansion movie. But the problem is so many companies use it as a catch all safe tool to make something with low risk high reward.
Also, glad to see another episode of Good Trope Bad Trope!
Yeah, that safe attitude is ironically biting them. This spring and summer has been flop after flop because people are sick of safe!
Lol I’m COMPLETELY with you on the microwave pet peeve. My brother is my roommate and he drives me crazy with that all the time. Let the timer run out, or clear the timer when you’re done. Pick one 🤦♂️🤷♂️😂
It’s only one button!!!!
As a reader of the Wheel of Time series since middle school in the 90's, what Amazon did there is infuriating. With the nature of that world, the importance of the characters extreme appearances and depictions, and its magic, I think a more realistic computer animated style using modern technology like the new Unreal engine could be amazing. Of course, until the quality of writing gets better everything will continue to suck.
That show is a crime. The book is already incredibly diverse and does so many interesting things with gender struggles. How could they mess that up?!
@@gregowen2022 It ruined an incredibly important plot point. The fact that Rand looks completely different than an otherwise very homogeneous isolated rural town has direct plot implications that made no sense in the show. The difference between how men and women use magic is also vital to the story. The showrunner either lied when he claimed to be a fan of the series, or he is too dumb to understand the world it is set in and why Robert Jordan set it up the way he did. A college level course could be taught on how not to adapt a beloved IP just from that show alone.
@@gregowen2022it's been a year since I suffered through that season 1 atrocity and I'm still not over it. Seriously. How do you F things up that badly? It's willful and knowing... intentional. So infuriating.
The saddest part of all is that I have to watch season 2, or at least a couple episodes. The upshot is that you guys won't have to and it should be pretty entertaining to watch me be angry about what is certain to be another abomination
This whole video is basically him just saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
3:10 to yuma was a decent remake, a guilty pleasure of mine is the total recall remake starring colin farrel. the movie has many flaws but its fun to see
Good idea: being served breakfast in bed.
Bad idea: being served tennis balls in bed.
I’m so tired of remakes, reboots, and reimaginings. The current writers and producers in Hollywood have zero respect, love, or even familiarity with the originals. And they ignore why people loved these stories and characters in the first place. I’m so ready for new, original stories.
The only exception I can think of is Cobra Kai. The creators of that series are die hard Karate Kid fans and it shows. That series is a masterclass in how to reboot a popular IP.
I’m not sure if the current people can even make good original stuff
@@cosmicspacething3474 well that’s a good point. There is talent out there, but it’s not in Hollywood.
To be entirely fair, a lot of our so-called original films are actually remakes. Walt Disney’s Snow White was essentially an animated remake of the 1912 Snow White film. Also the 1939 Wizard of Oz was essentially a remake of the 1910 The Wizard of Oz (notwithstanding the book from 1900). In 2005, there was an animated movie called Ultimate Avengers and the 2012 Avengers movie ended up being extremely similar to it. I think the problem with modern remakes is less that they’re not original and more that they tend to be poorly done.
@@matityaloran9157 fair point. Nothing is really original. But as Greg said about tropes, it’s about building on these story elements and presenting something new and different. The only thing Hollywood is doing today is taking apart every beloved IP to hate on the legacy characters and remake them for “modern audiences.” And the sheer amount of series and films in the marvel and Star Wars universes are so bloated and terrible that I don’t care anymore.
@@matityaloran9157If the 2010's is anything to view in retrospective Matt, that decade can be labeled as a decade where remake overload occured.
Besides the Disney liveaction ones, you had ads for 2012 Total Recsll, 2014 Robocop, 2017 The Mummy and 2019 Black Christmas to name a few.
One of my favorite game remakes is Ducktales: Remastered by Wayforward. It's an incredibly charming 2D platformer packaged with the gorgeous Wayforward artstyle.
Glad you are watching Avatar the Last Airbender series - it is a family favorite of ours!
I’m loving it so far!
8:50 "if you ask people... " -- I cried on the inside
Deadspace was a near perfect remake. Gameplay was upgraded in a way that didn't detract from the original look/feel of the original game, the little things they added (like showing the main character's face) didn't feel out of place or like they did it just because... it was a really good game.
One that's about to come out that I'm HOPING will be great is Super Mario RPG... nostalgia at its finest there.
100% agree. I still think 2 is the best in the series but The Dead Space remake made revisiting the original pointless outside of nostalgia. And I don't say that lightly, I love that first game. The remake is just better in every way. How many times can you say that about anything?
I think that Disney’s 2016 live action remake of The Jungle Book (not to be confused with their 1998 live action remake of The Jungle Book) was decent as an adaptation of the book by Rudyard Kipling even though I greatly enjoy the 1967 cartoon. (I also like the Super Mario Brods animated movie but I didn’t see the 1993 original to compare). I have too many remakes I could complain about to list so I’ll just say the most recent one which is Pixar’s Lightyear which is essentially a remake of Buzz Lightyear of Star Command: The Adventure Begins and sacrificed pretty much everything that made the original film good.
I’m more ambivalent about the upcoming How To Train Your Dragon remake since (as much as I loved the animated movies) the HTTYD films aren’t loyal to the books by Cressida Cowell and I’d love to see Cowell’s actual Hiccup books adapted to the big screen but the statements that Universal is making sound more like they’re just planning to rehash the movies in live action (instead of re-adapting the same book.).
Remember! Wizards of the past used to drop a shit where they stood and turned it invisible before toilets were invented. I will only watch the show if this fact is at least mentioned in passing.
I am positive the Amazon Prime adaptations of the Chronicles of Narnia will make me short curcuit with rage.
Wait, they are doing that?! Oh, we’re screwed
@@gregowen2022 Yep. And there are rumors that Greta Gerwig is on board to direct some of them.
OMFG! I hate it when people do that with the microwave, too! I thought it was just me. 😅
Shoutout to Super Mario RPG actually getting a remake and... it looks GOOD! ❤ I couldn't be happier that it exists and that more people can experience a classic! It definitely wasn't perfect, and it should be interesting to see what improvements can be made without sacrificing the game's charm.
... I forgot about the Avatar Last Airbender live action remake existing... 🙃🙃
I absolutely can’t wait for the Mario RPG release. My kids better enjoy the Switch while they can!
Although it makes me angry at Nintendo because they do the re-release thing instead of making their files available to purchase on the store. They get mad at ROM sites, but refuse to make the old material available!
And it's a good example since it is pretty old and seems to still respect the original (One hopes)
When people ask me whats my favourite Disney live-action movie, it usually baffles them because for me its Blackbeard's Ghost and for my wife its Bedknobs and Broomsticks. Its like people forget that Disney even did older live-action movies.
I've seen at least one person online who was asked about their favorite Disney live-action and the answer was *Mary Poppins.* 😋
Cinderella was by far the best adaptation I've seen. They took the Tom and jerry that made up most of the original and replaced it with charecter building and plot expansion. It used practical effects whenever possible, and what CGI they did use looks great. the sets and costumes were really colorful, the animals don't talk when not transformed into humans. inconsistencies in the original story were explaned logicaly.
The Jump Street remakes were pretty f'cking great. The "hey homes, where'd you find the gringo, a f'cking Mumford and sons concert?" Is still one of my favorite lives ever. 😆
Yo, you hit us with a pool day name and I immediately started laughing because I knew exactly what you were talking about.
Like when you wake up your 100% certain you teleportrd 100yrs into the future.
Yeah the microwave thing happens with me. The person who won’t quit the start button thing is my dad
I think Final Fantasy VII is the exception to the rule. It didn't need to be made. There was nothing wrong with the original and I still play it to this day. But dang do I also love the Remake. It is awesome to see the game on current graphics and they changed the game enough to where it doesn't take anything away from the game (so far... we'll see what they do with Aerith and Zack) but adds to it. It's a good example of how to do it right
It’s such an interesting topic, because I don’t think it can rightly be called a remake, but that doesn’t mean I don’t love it! It was extremely well done, though I still long for the original turn based games with new textures.
Resident evil four remake has been one of my new favorite remakes. It brought back the familiar things that people loved from the original, but added more depth to the characters and the gameplay was fun
Star Wars' main story is one of the oldest and most popular tropes - it's just done with a fresh spin and brilliant execution. It's not that tropes are used, but how they're deployed that matters.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s all in the execution, but few studios get that far.
Best remake: The Matt Reeves Planet of the Apes trilogy.
The Resident Evil remakes have been good. The animation and gameplay have been received well.
Up until 4
@@OhNoTheFaceYeah 4 had no reason to exist.
True Grit by the coen brothers is one of my favorites AND a western, so double favorite
I love the old Dune movie so much, that I still haven't mustered up the courage to see the new one...
I feel like gaming/film companies bank on nostalgia and “woke feminism”. Combining those two things is like combining fire and fireworks: a disaster waiting to happen
No a spectacle. And spectacle generates buzz which translate to funds
10:15 Also the Fire Lord just doesn't look scary. In the show he's a massive, super jacked guy with Yellow eyes and a pointy villain beard voiced by Mark Hamill, add his Firebending and he's scary. This is some middle aged dude who looks like he'd get winded doing a light jog.
Speed Racer was a great adaptation…doesn’t get enough praise
It was brilliant! Never understood why it didn't catch on. Watched a video on it recently arguing that (a) people were more into dark movies that year and (b) its techniques were too far ahead of its time. Dunno. But I've yet to get anyone to watch it who doesn't end up loving it, fan of the show or not.
10:14 another smaller problem with that scene is that as we learn as the show goes on...Ozai doesnt actually care about either of his kids. Zuko was able to learn this in time and it was one of the final nails in the coffin of his allegiance to him. however, Azula sadly didn't fully understand this until it was too late and her story ended more tragically.
I would love to hear your thoughts on anime! I love it, I think animation is more utilized in Japan compared to the west, so we get a ton more variety. Here it’s usually (with exceptions) adult prime time comedy and kids shows.
Now that the Airbender live-action series has come out, please review it! My son and I were pleasantly surprised.
There will never be a worse adaptation than Dragon Ball Evolution, but Death Note came close.
Best game remake I've seen in a while is Mafia. Loved the original game back in 2002, and was worried about the remake, but they did a great job. Graphics, voices and just enough tweaks to the story so parts made more sense. You could tell they cared about the game and it wasn't just a cash grab like the GTA 'remasters'.
Easy example of an amazing remake would be DOOM (2016). Updating the game to match the advancements in the FPS genre while keeping true to fast paced action and violence of the originals the fans loved.
i honestly don't have many thoughts when it comes to movie remakes, because i'm admittedly not much of a cinephile, but i do think american media should experiment more with adapting books into multiple episode/season long shows for the reasons you mentioned during the harry potter bit. as controversial as they can be sometimes, japanese anime adaptations of manga tend to be better than movie adaptations of books. in my opinion, at least.
now, games, though...this could definitely be a me thing, but a lot of game remakes are irritating to me, because i feel like i have to play every version of the game. some remakes are way too different and are basically their own new game, like Final Fantasy 7 and the Etrian Odyssey series, if anyone's ever heard of those. there are some games that already had multiple versions beforehand, so the remake has to pick and choose which content to include from whichever version, which is what's happening with Persona 3 right now.
i'm definitely an outlier, though; stuff like the ps2, ps3, and the DS don't strike me as "old", so i don't mind going out and buying games for those systems. and it could also be that, at least for me, games are so much more of a time and money investment than movies, so a remake coming out is simultaneously like buying the same game again while also getting a brand new game that has the label of a game i already own.
that said, i don't mind when a game that was quite literally inaccessible gets a new release, be it a full remake or a direct port to modern systems. there are lots of games i like that were either super niche in their time and are now ungodly expensive to buy in their original forms, or games that just striaght up didn't release in my region or in a language i speak, so...i guess game remakes depend of a couple of factors.
The Final Fantasy VII remake is awesome. They updated the fighting mechanics. Updated the graphics. Expanded on the world. It's dozens of hours long, and they still have about 2/3 of the story left!
I don't like to argue with people about matters of personal taste, but dividing the game into three separate titles with each coming out four years apart was a huge turn-off for me. It just felt like such a money-grubbing move by Square-Enix. If I want to play the entirety of the FF VII remake when the third chapter comes out in 2028 -- more than thirty years after the release of the amazing original game, I might add -- it means that I'll need two and possibly three different systems.
@@DVX_BELLORVM I understand your distaste for that. But I honestly didn't even like the original. Most people I know didn't like it. If you didn't play it when it was newish, it just seems dated in every way. Which is why a remake makes perfect sense. Keep the cool story, but update the gameplay for modern audiences.
@@darkdudironaji That makes sense. You raise an issue that concerns a lot of these multi-decade franchises: How does one appeal to old fans and new fans alike? I've been a fan of the Final Fantasy series since the first one came out on the NES and FF VII blew me away back in 1997. I wish that the remake stuck closer to the gameplay of the original just with updated graphics (and was a single title rather than a staggered trilogy), but the remake clearly seems to appeal to younger gamers who didn't grow up with the old games.
Here's my picks:
Good remake: Invasion of The Body Snatchers (1978): While I haven't seen it in full, the parts I have seen are insanely cool, and do a great job improving on the original movie. And of course, that iconic ending shot.
Neutral Remake: Charlie and The Chocolate Factory (2005) This is the definition of a neutral remake. It has some good remake aspects: it has a reason to exist due to it being more loyal to the book than the 1971 film, it appropriately updates certain aspects, it does its own thing with the Wonka lore, and it gives a lot more insight into the Willy Wonka character. But despite that, it pales in comparison to the original, is very awkward in places, it doesn't have the iconic tunnel scene, and while Johnny Depp's Wonka has some fun moments, he's nowhere near on the level of Gene's. Essentially, Charlie is a remake that has enough positive and negative remake aspects to make a worthwhile film, but a neutral remake nonetheless.
Bad Remake: The Haunting (1999): Holy fuck this remake sucks. Like, a lot. The cast is decent, although why Owen Wilson is here I have no idea, but that's really it in terms of good aspects. The special effects are laughable, the plot is incredibly convoluted and stupid, the characters are bland and stupid, and the film turns this creepy horror into a weird message about family. It doesn't even justify itself considering there's a 1963 version that does it way better! An awful remake that serves no purpose other than to be mocked.
The body snatchers remake is brilliant, one of the best 70s SF/horror movies.
I think the Haunting remake is OK in a camp, so bad it's good kind of way, but when you consider the original is still one of the scariest films ever made, it pales in comparison.
The 1963 “Haunting” set up was excellent. The search for those who faced paranormal experiences was very insightful and Julie Harris played it to the max.
RoP's constant comparison with The Silmarillion probably hurt it more than the comparison to the Peter Jackson movies.
FF7R is the remake that really grinds my gears. I know some people don't think a remake should exist unless your bringing something new to the project, but for me what I want from a game remake IS that game, remade. Not some abomination using the cultural cache that name brings on a altered story. The only new thing I want brought to the table is the new and better technology to better realize the original vision. For a good example of this see the recent System Shock remake. That was exactly what I wanted.
In movies its a bit harder for me. Like I don't like all the Disney live action remakes, not because they are the same or different, but just because they aren't as good as the original in any way. But other movies get remade all the time. Like the Italian Job or Ocean's 11 or Godzilla, or Peter Jackson's LOTR. And I am fine with those and really enjoy some of them. So it's a bit more grey for me in that area.
I guess for movies I do expect something new or better, but for games I just want what was old, MADE new.
The FF7 remake is so crazy, because I loved it, it was very fun, but I ALSO want the original turn based game with new textures. I want both!
My condolences that you had to watch the movie. I don't hate the movie because I watched it before the animated version. And I was 7 when I watched it (I think, not sure about that). I watched it for the pretty action scenes. lmao. And After that, when I saw the animated version, I appreciated it so so much.
I just loved the premise of the movie(which was the animated one). The idea of elemental powers made the cogs in my young impressionable mind turn at very fast speed. I loved thinking about it. I still do. So, the movie maybe served a purpose as a gateway for many people to get into watching good animated stuff. I still wouldn't watch it though. Some things are best forgotten.
Even when I was that young, I could tell that the animated version was vastly superior. sad.
Anyway, thanks for reading, hope you have a great day.
The little meltdown around 5 minutes reminds me of after jiu jtisu ill walk home with one of my friends from there and will basically be like that talking about star wars/marvel fuck ups. I remember one where I was telling him about that Tchalla what if they put out and even apart from the "he just convinced Thanos not to carry out his plan because he had a good argument" I was basically yelling because of what one of the writers had said about why Tchalla was uncomfortable being called a lord and they said something akin to " it makes him feel uncomfortable because hes not used to being refereed to something like that,its not like hes royalty or anything like"
There is a place for some remakes I would really love to see a version of the last starfighter done with today's technology I liked that story back in the day I thought it was a really cool premise. But for the most part I wish Hollywood would remove its head from its sphincter and get back to the business of being entertaining. starting with offering the people out there with exciting new ideas and stories to have their day in the sun. I am convinced that if Hollywood really cast its net out there, they would find new equivalents to the franchises and ideas they are obliterating through over use.
Sooo looking forward to your videos/comments re Dune, and I could always go for some more LOTR rage...rangs of powah totally deserves it
I have an example of one that should be considered at least an honorable mention for a good remake, if it is not actually a remake. And that is the Lemony Snicket *series* that was on streaming starring Neil Patrick Harris, which I consider to be a better than the movie with Jim Carrey.
I didn't mind the movie at all, it's just that the series was so very much better.
Don't wait! Let the Dune Part 1 review come out now! You aren't alone in having 'strong feelings' about it.
I think for me the easiest version of the 'bad adaptation' and 'good adaptation' game is TMNT. The original comic was fine, if not a little try-hard. The first animated show was a toy commercial in the best way - it wanted you to have a good time and then shell out a few dollars every time you went to a store to have part of that good time at home. So the first true adaptation in my opinion was the theatrical movie, which mixed elements of the two. It took the character work from the show and plunked them seamlessly into the world of the comic. The second animated show is neutral, because it basically wants to be anime but doesn't know how.
The 2012 series is possibly one of the best adaptations ever. It adjusts some ages so that relationships can become a primary focus as opposed to a thirty year old woman having teenage ninja pals, and it leans into some wonderful 50s and 60s sci-fi vibes and tropes. What does mutagen do? Whatever makes this story entertaining, that's what. If you haven't seen any of it check out a Season 3 episode called "In Dreams". You don't have to watch anything else to appreciate this episode, I assure you. And then the newest animated show is in the bad category, for many reasons.
I can't wait to see your take on anime. One of the big reasons it is so important to people is that it takes a story that would be difficult if not impossible to tell in live action and gives it life. Here are a couple that might be up your alley:
Serial Experiments Lain - a young girl starts to realize technology may not be what she thinks it is while struggling with the way people treat her - as if they haven't all met the same girl.
Rahxephon - a survivor of a nuclear war learns his entire life is a lie, and struggles between taking control of it or living the way he wants to. This takes the mecha genre and turns it on its head with the machines being either mechanical or organic. Episode 19 has an amazing gut punch.
Noir - a professional assassin meets a much younger assassin with ties to her past and tries to unravel the mystery of their connection. Uses slowly expanding flashbacks and an amazing score to create an an amazing atmosphere.
Gasaraki - two companies use different methods to create the weapons of tomorrow: one uses information and the other uses mystical secrets of their past.
Flag - after taking a picture during a revolt a journalist is moved to the front lines of a vicious war in order to document one side's struggle. Made as a quasi-documentary: every shot is either through a camera, a computer screen, or something like it.
Key The Metal Idol - a robot is told by her dying grandfather that to avoid shutting down she must make 30,000 friends to become human. Wherever you think this story is going - it isn't.
Sword of the Stranger - a simple story told well about a samurai being forced to break his vow to never draw his blade again.
Twelve Kingdoms - a girl is pulled into a fantastical world where her modern sensibilities both help and hinder her attempts to survive.
ACCA: 13-Territory Inspection - an inspector travels to the thirteen states of his nation and investigates a potential coup.
Flowers of Evil - a story about a boy who gets caught doing something deviant and is blackmailed over it. The show is live action but then rotoscoped and made in a way to get deep under your skin.
As someone who loves ATLA and HATES the movie, i would watch a 2hr video of you reading a transcript of your kids ROASTING it 😂 for me it's that and the Eragon movie, which i enjoy as something not related to the books but it's a terrible adaptation. It IS getting a remake, with Paolini heavily involved, but it's also Disney, so i waffle on how excited to be
Haha, when I tell you this girl got HEATED while talking about it.
Unfortunately I can’t trust Disney to make something without squeezing in current day American politics. Ugh
@@gregowen2022 you're not wrong about Disney. But Eragon was so formative for me as a teenager that I have to at least give it a shot. Even if there's a good chance of me chucking the books at the screen
Point Break is one my favorite remakes.
M. Night Shamalan must be insane, because he truly thought his film version of TLA is superior to the show😢
my fav remake is Tomb Raider series, my seething remake is the Tomb Raider re-remake coming soon that will make Lara like the Dove commercial, for a more "modern" audience.
Phoebe Waller-Bridge was a terrible choice for that series. Her brand of comedy is not going to translate to the Tomb Raider franchise at all
Some of the best remakes are the 80s remakes of cheesy 50 horror movies, i.e. the Thing and the Blob
That is the best thing a remake can do IMO, take a flawed product with an interesting premise and give it the second chance it deserves
I like the live action Peter Pan, NOT “peter pan and Wendy” the live action one made in 2003 Jason Isaacs as Hook was amazing and they child actors were pretty good and the kid who played Peter Pan, man he was a mischievous little rascal absolutely loved him. And the soundtrack was great as well
It's always a pity that PJ Hogan's Peter Pan came out at the same time as the hugely anticipated Lord of the Rings The Return of the King. If it had come out a year later, it might have been the box hit it deserved to be.
"The Whitecloaks were right!"
-Master "Giga Chad" Hightower
I don’t know if it counts because I have never seen the originals, but I’m a big fan of “The Italian Job”,“Gone in 60 Seconds”, and “Ocean’s Eleven”
Also where I’m this conversation do superheroes land? We have had three Spidermen since 2001
Would you ever consider reviewing new films like “The Covenant” and “Sound of Freedom” ? Both are very dramatic films but I greatly enjoy your very in depth review of films that provide an unbiased approach.
2 hours of pure rage!...yup that's every ATLA fan's reaction to that film. I notice the abomination known as Dragonball Evolution wasn't even mentioned. ...good!
Any interest is Song Covers? Like Shinedown doing "Simple Man" or Disturbed doing "Sound of Silence."
Metallica Whisky in the Jar is another. Also their cover of Turn The Page is better than the original in my mind.
It’s more of an adaptation than a true remake, but the Assassin’s Creed movie is the only film I’ve ever walked out on.
You may be able to find the 80s Dune fan reedit on line or was it an extended cut?). Does it make it better? Maybe. It adds a lot of cut footage and gives us more of the universe to experience. I thought the SciFi series was pretty good too. Full disclosure, I have not read the books.
Favorite Remakes:
The Maltese Falcon
Fist Of Legend
Ben-hur (1959)
Dragon Inn
Tange Sazan ( with Kinnosuke Nakamura)
Space Battleship Yamato 2199
Ushio And Tora
The Rare shout out to Demon Soul’s, nice. Also, lay off my boy Vanguard, he can’t help being chunky!
Chunky and hits like a tank!
Fortunately he doesn’t move and I cheated with magic
I always argue. There are only three reasons to do a remake.
The first is that it is some kind of timeless story play Robin Hood, and there is a new take you can use.
The second is that movie technology has advanced. They were silent that they had it sound, so OK will remake things that were done silent. They added color baby hey with 3-D or CGI it’s worth taking another shot of something.
The laughs is that it’s a story that is sad, or was that contemporaneously, but actual technology has changed. So can we have the same general idea of a murder mystery that hinges on there being a party line, which nobody under the age of 40 knows what the heck that is. So if you have a murder mystery that is based around the fact that nobody had cell phones and now you have to accounts for that it could work.
greg owen easily a top 3 most based youtuber ever
plays soups games, hates tla movie, and watches anime
god bless you good sir
Thank you sir!
Greg since you’re getting into anime/manga, I have 3 recommendations that have high quality storytelling, also wouldn’t recommend these for the younger kids lol
Vinland Saga,
Fullmetal alchemist brotherhood (the remake)
Hunter X Hunter
One piece MANGA (the pacing is much better than the anime once you go farther into the story and it’s a quicker read than watch but binging the anime the pacing is more bearable ) personally these are my favorite with one piece being my number 1. If you enjoy avatar you’ll love these
Some favorite remakes
The Fly
The Thing
The Mummy (1999)
Jumanji The Animated Series (if we're counting Harry Potter)
Flubber
The Nutty Professor
Personally, my favourite remake of all time would have to be in terms of movies, Friday The 13th:
It had set up a new, completely fresh story that still stayed true to the original, with better cinematography and effects which make this my favourite horror movie of all time
In terms of video games: Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2:
It had kept elements from the original game that were beloved while still making this a brand new story.
These are what remakes are missing, instead of just focusing on new stuff to make it hip, you need to study the original Adaption, see what worked and try to creative something original using what worked from the previous Adaption as a sort of blueprint
they should have daneil radcliff be harrys dad, then he will look like his dad but with his moms eyes.
The only remakes that i can tolerate are for horror movies, but even then they always mess something up
Favorite remake- Ben-Hur 1959. Least favorite remake- Ben-Hur 2016.
4:19 😂 Always makes me think of max power form the Simpsons. My favorite Dune adaptation is still the sequels. Loved what Greg Yaitanes did with it. I hope this Harry Potter, though amazingly cast in the past, actually does Ron justice in writing and doesn't cut a freaking War for a kicking cup scene. Little things.
There is one option to remake Lord of the Rings : expand the scope. Show, what happens in the other fronts of the Ring War. Show, what Galadriel and Faramir are doing all the time. Perhaps, show the politics of the Easterlings. In the hand of very good writers, this could become an epic like early Game of Thrones.
Oceans 11 was a good remake, but admittedly I never saw the original
I don't watch too many remakes as I normally like the originals. However I do like both when it comes to Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Thing From Another World. I am interested to see this reboot of Friday the 13th, though is a reboot the same as a remake?
Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a really interesting take on a quote-on-quote “Remake,” because they end up changing a bit of plot points from the 97 original while still following a similar structure. It makes old fans of the og hyped because they still get some of their favorite moments transformed from polygons to beautiful CG gameplay, and all the while it’s not a carbon copy. The suspense it’s produced since Remake’s ending and Rebirth’s (Part 2’s) trailers showing new and exciting possibilities makes it such a unique and interesting take on a Remake. I’m down to see that show it’s stuff
The issue with remakes is that the fail state isn't simply when it's worse than the original, but when it ultimately is no different from the original. With the phrase "Remake," there comes some expectations; most of which are reasonable. The expectation that trumps them all is basically this: "what did they fix? What did they improve? Is it better than the original?" Simply put: if it isn't better than how we made it before, then outside of accessibility, what is the point?
One good remake I can list, outside of Demon's Souls, was MediEvil on PS4. The older one was a pretty big adbenture game where you play the boneheaded knight Sir Daniel as he tries to earn the glory he unjustifiably earned in life when he rises from the grave. The new one has a myriad of little touches that has many good effects and improvements that go a long way. Plus, the game allows you to play the PS1 original as one of a few 100% completion rewards.
Another good remake was Pokémon Mystery Dungeon DX. I grew up with Blue Team on DS and checked out DX after finding out that it was a full 3D remake of both Red and Blue Team with the amenities of the future titles. And found that out the fun way: trying the demo. Still got your avatar pokemon through a series of questions, new areas for friend maps, new missions, new items and evolutions; the whole 9 yards. Childhood me was ecstatic seeing his childhood favorite remade for modern consoles, even if the levels were MUCH easier than what I remembered (one place had 99 floors, reduced to I think 20.)
One I found neutral was the Mass Effect Legendary Collection. I am a humongous fan of Mass Effect, with the political intrigue, strangely realistic approach to human-alien relations, Lovecraftian Horror, and whatnot. When LC came out, many new things were added, like a proper integration of Weapons and Armor packs as things you purchase with in-game currency or resources like everything else. But the things removed, like the Outpost DLC, kinda bummed me; alongside how the overall difficukty was toned down after they buffered the gameplay. The biggest drawback was what they kept, like the painfully stupid ending and over-explaining of Mass Effect 3's Reapers. Or the painfully... uh... "CoD: Ghosts" the story was in ME3 what with the canyon sized plotholes. Still though, fun gameplay and Citadel was such a good sendoff... exceot for the arena removal.
A bad one in video games... hoo boy, where to look. Well, there's Last of Us pt.1 remake with Microsoft Paint graphics design, Bombermam Zero that took a cutesy bomber guy and made it edgier than the Late 90's; or Bionic Commando which did the same thing with an infinitely dumber story and twist (Two Words: Wife Arm), or what about Prince of Persia 2008 where the ending was hidden behind a no-longer-accessible DLC. The list goes on and I'm terrified to know that it won't end.
Though, the idea of remakes isn't inherently bad or toxic. For example, I'm hoping Todd Howard will let Obsidian do a full top-down remake of Fallout New Vegas with Fallout 4's engine, so that we can get to see all the things they wanted to add but couldn't. Normally the reason why would be taking 5 years ir whatever, but FNV had 18 months of development and it showed, hard. I'd honestly love to see the full Vegas Strip or see all of what Obsidian wanted.
I'd even love a modern remake of Deus Ex or Omikron: The Nomad Soul for modern consoles. Keep the story and mechanics, but upgrade the visuals and audio. Then again, without David Bowie, Omikron will never have a true remake.
I liked Martin Scorsese 's remake of Cape Fear. Changing Sam Bowden from a prosecution witness to the lawyer who shafted his client for the good of the community was a great twist.
Karl Urban "Dredd". Legit.
My favorite Remake is Resident Evil 4 and my most hated Remake is Blackriel.
There were 3 main original creators, only 2 returned for the sequel series to Avatar: The Last Airbender. And that show was a dang mess. The 3 creators balanced each other out. So, just having 2 on board would have still made me be cautious of the series.
Favorite remake can I pick "Dredd" as a remake of the Sylvester Stallone version? LOL.
A trope i just thought of that I hate as of late is the all the current villains are "misunderstood". There are no truly evil for evil sake. Makes them look weak and soft 🤦🏾♀️
Agreed. I think the writers think it looks deep, but you can still have a deep and relatable character without making them misunderstood and redeemed by a last minute sacrifice
The sense of that is to twist good and evil. Making the villain 'misunderstood' simply justifies their evil actions and trivialises the malevolence of their character. They create a sob story so you sympathise and later feel pity for the pos and it cruel action. Works every time.
Never forget that the main purpose of the entertainment industry is not to entertain, make art or money but to INFLUENCE views and opinions and to dissolve values and traditions!
@saymyname2417 Wow, I love this breakdown. Thank you for this 👍
@@UniqueLove32 - You're welcome! I'm glad you appreciate it. Most people don't even want to know about the machinations of the industry. It's too uncomfortable for most.
Have a great weekend 🌞!
There are quite a few great films that are remakes. Ben Hur, 12 Angry men, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, True Grit, Oceans Eleven, etc.
Maltese Falcon was made twice before they finally struck gold with Humphrey Bogart.
@@Altaira17 Was not aware of that one. Thanks!
Resident evil 2 and 4 remakes are pretty darn good examples for video games
Funny how people usually say third time the charm. The. RE3 remake was a disaster, yet RE4 which is the number of death and misfortune became one of the best game of all time… again
So I'm surprised you actually didn't mention this one. By far the best remake I have ever seen/played is the Dead Space remake.
The original game already was one of the most terrifying and absolute best horror games I have ever played. Which set the bar really really high for the remake.
Which is why going into it I was very cautious if not a little skeptical. And then come to find out EA crushed it.
The visuals for the game are absolutely stunning. The gameplay not only feels like the original but it also feels like they smoothed out some of the original's kinks. They expanded the story to be much more immersive and give you a wider breadth of what's going on in universe. They redesigned old mini games in the game and is so much better and more fun challenges for the player to overcome. Mechanics in the game were improved all around. The remake not only paid homage to the original but improved upon it in almost every single way. And was absolutely exceptional.
The one thing that still bugs me to this day, is there was a jump scare in the original that occurred in a very specific place. You go into and out of this place all the time, and the original devs specifically waited until you got comfortable in this place and thought it was safe before they hit you with this jump scare. Which then turns into about a 5 minute adrenaline dump of pure frantic button mashing, followed by never trusting this place ever again. Meaning every time you go back into it you are always being extra aware and extra cautious to make sure it never happens again.
For those of you who played the original, you know exactly what I'm talking about. That specific scare scared the s*** out of me.
I don't know if the devs did it on purpose, or if I just so happen to get lucky, but that jump scare never happened in the remake. And I spent the entirety of my playthrough, on hard difficulty waiting for it to happen. So much so, that the further I got into my playthrough, the more anxious I got in this place, and it was really messing with my head. Using the tension created by that point, either knowingly or unknowingly, to allow for the rest of the ambience to work so well, is either a master stroke or some of the shearest dumbest luck I have ever seen.
And despite what I've posted here, I do not have the words to fully give the remake justice. You have to play it yourself. And I cannot recommend it enough.
I am very picky about remakes for obvious reasons 😑 I think one that stands out is actually the first jumanji remake, mainly because it didn’t mimic the original, it took the concept of a cursed game and said “well, what would this sentient game do now?” Video games! It was a fun time and didn’t try to copy the tone because it followed an adventure video game tone instead. Overall it just rolled with an interesting concept and told a fun story, so I was pleasantly surprised. As for least favorites, pretty much any and all post 2020, and all useless Disney remakes
Jumanji was such a great concept. They could have redone the original but with better CGI, and I agree, the decision to move forward and ask “what next” was the right call
The devs explained something similar for the remake of Chrono Cross and especially the included Radical Dreamers story. One was getting hard to find and radical dreamers was soon going to be impossible. Good time for a remaster, if only to save the dreamers part.
A bloodborne rerelease would be about the same. Get it on PC so it can escape the sytem it came out on no one bought and can actually load and have frames
I’m dying to get time to relive Chrono Cross, and I never experienced the Dreamers. I can only remember bits and pieces of it, but I recall being a little sad as a kid because I wanted more Chrono Trigger. But if I remember right, there was this great twist with the main character for real dying for a while and you become the villain, or inhabit his body anyway. And wasn’t there a timed combat mechanic? Or am I thinking of Legend of Dragoon? Either way, I want to re-experience this one
Part of me also wants to grab that Bloodborne remaster because holy shit that game is good, but I already 100%’d it, so it’s low priority. I’m excited for the PC folks, though. I just hope it isn’t like to recent PC ports of late and it actually works.
GREAT GREG OWEN VIDEO REMAKE TROPE OVERDUE LOL.
favorite remakes would be Metroid zero mission same AM2R. For movie all i can think of is ocean's eleven... but then i haven't watched the original one
Remakes that I love and adore: Resident Evil 1 & 2, John Carpenter's The Thing, N. Sane Trilogy, Demon's Souls, Shadow Of The Colossus, Nier Replicant version blah blah blah number sequence 😅.
Remakes that make me seeth with anger: FINAL FANTASY VII (YOU COULD'VE BEEN PERFECT DAMN IT YOU SHOWED THAT BUT YOU THREW IT ALL AWAY!!!!😅)
Once again Thanks for mentioning "The Wheel of Time." That failed abortion of a show truly hurts my soul. In terms of favorite remake I'd have to say "Sabrina" with Juliette Armond and Harrison Ford. When I first saw it I didn't know it was a remake of an old Audry Hepburn film. There are two remakes I wish never existed and wonder why. The first is Final Fantasy 7. They call it a remake or reboot but its not. It's just a game with characters name and skins. The second (which I'm Surprised you didn't mention) is Anne Rice Interview with a Vampire. The original move was roughly 70% book accurate. There were some things I didn't like and wondered why the unnecessary changes but otherwise I loved. So like you mentioning a Harry Potter series coming to MAX I was excited for the AMC adaptation of Anne Rice Vampire chronicles. Well I was until I saw the cast. They Made Louis black. now as an African American man I'm all for actors of color getting more roles but Louis of the book was a white, plantation slave owner. I'm sure you see the issue with that. Well so did the writers. Instead of a slave owner this Louis was made a closeted gay pimp in early 20th century new Orleans. How clever and progressive.... 😒
Basically The show is nothing more than expensive poorly written fan fiction in the same vein as WOT