2nd affliction took 5°warmth from you... It dropped from 8°down to 3°.... What did you say about NOGOA? Campfire simulator? Welcome in your new reality...😂
Hey zak, your awesome man. I tried to start your new interloper run with you, probably old to you, but your 500 series, and ive got it to where I load the same spawn and follow you and one time I got to day 46. The only differenve in our play, even when I follow your play region to region, is you dont ever stop, and that is what I did, amd it got to the point I coukd barely hatchet furs and not freeze to death, but I have watched your first few videos on your run and have tried to spawn where and when and you get to like day 8 where im at day 18. Either way, your awesome man, this game has helped my depression and hearing your voice is calming. Im sorry I dont got money to be a patron right now but when I can I will give back, your dope man.
Dont worry about any money pledge, my friend. Its a great compliment that you mirror my run. I am glad the videos help and hope you feel well! Stay awesome, friend!
I've just stated a new run, only on Voyager but I started in Ash Canyon and goated to the Homesteader's Respite then up to the mine to get the technical backpack!! game changer. Great strategy! I employ quite a few of your tips now after watching your videos. And when I died on my first attempt the other day I thought about your words that in even death there is a lesson (or something like that you said!!) Cheers. I just wish I had started taking notes when I first started watching your videos, cos now I'm like "what did Zak say about so and so??"
I enjoy watching the misery difficulty, but I don't think I'll play it. I prefer a more comfy difficulty where I can traverse the maps and collect resources without too much trouble.
An easy solution to the painkiller problem would be for cures to only prompt issues they can cure. So painkillers would ask you which pain you would want to cure. So if you had 2 sprains, you would still need 2 doses of painkillers for the pain, but there is no chance of accidentally trying to cure the sprain itself
1:11:01 The “what do you want to cure?” mechanic for painkillers is definitely weird. Umm, it’s in the name! 😂 Seems like it should be easy enough for the game to filter / only display the suitable conditions to cure. Maybe the idea is to make you think a bit more in a panic situation (e.g. after a wolf attack)?
My second affliction was sour stomach. I'm powering on. Day 8 and not doing bad. Never really played Interloper but certainly will begin once this run is over. Thank you for all the great advice you provide during your videos.
I always found it funny that I have to take an aspirin for each body part that hurts. You can ingest a whole bottle and be fine because you have 3 to 4 sprains.
I'm in 16 day I preferred to hit the desolation point. I have a bow, a sleeping bag, 10 arrows, rabbit gloves/hat, and the moose skin is already 90% dry, I will wait, after the coastal highway I will hit the TWM and also get a backpack. I think that after day 45 with a broken body you can survive at such a desolation point, exploring the world 100% is unlikely without treatment, at least with birch
Your voice is so relaxing, could listen to it for hours. I am a non native speaker but i do understand every word, thanks for that! You have a really smooth way to play this game even on misery.
That would be cool, but considering they aimed for people to die in a few dozen days, I'd say the badge should simply be to reach the final affliction (Day 46)
I completely agree with the stuff about rose hip tea. I think it would be better if there was some way mechanically to “learn” what does what (maybe similar to reading but slightly more accessible in the early game) like how rose hip tea is a painkiller and rieshi is an antibiotic, that way there’s not that strange way of taking medicine/drinking tea that has a use but does nothing because you didn’t technically use the right prompt
I love this series, I wonder how long you will survive. The new intro music is great, it's the sound of things getting serious ! So far so good ! The fish crate help a lot for the calories.
37:53 the youtuber Even Dark found a hacksaw on the misery in a container near the forge and that was not intended to happen because you can't really find any loot table items in random containers, and the hacksaw he found was invisible, also you cannot find hammer in a region with the forge but there used to be a bug where you could find invisible hammer in a container. Or you could also find an invisible stim in a first aid kit on interloper difficulty
I disagree with you about the clothing, You mostly say it's useless (mostly in episode 1). IMO it is very useful to get very good clothing as fast as possible (depending on your 2nd affliction, I think double insulation layer from day 6ish will be meta). In the mid game, it will help you sleep in caves without any fire (with upgraded bedroll), saving lots of ressources. Frigid bones makes it even more important to have the best clothing you can as you lose time making more fires, staying longer at each fire to warm up. You need to drink so many teas with poor clothing, that you spend a lot of time collecting/crafting those teas. And when you get "haunted mind" affliction, it really begins to be a game changer to get the best clothing possible. Health regeneration at night it really low (as you no longer get those crazy buffs from sleeping hours 8 to 10). To summerize, learn Ptarmigans spawns very early game (+1 sewing kit + some cloth). For mid game, learn as many birch bark locations as possible as it's the best way to still be able to use HP as a ressource before "broken bones" kicks in. On a side note, I do like your plan. I do it very differently, going to the gold mine and Summit only late days 30's, early 40's. I might get ideas from you on my next run ! Edit: coal spawn locations are also going to be very important to master !
Food cooked in pots and skillets (pies, stews, etc) have a small chance to cause cause food poisoning if they are low condition. I think it's 20% when they are ruined, and safe above 25%? It's something like that.
i was watching ddrjake and i noticed food cooked from ruined food like pies would get 100% condition, maybe you could also store cooking ingredients in the cat tail stockpile to make use of ruined food!
I've had a 2nd affliction 3 times so far and each time it was the same one. Reduce sleep to 7hrs and reduce recovery by 50 percent. And yeah you can get it on day 5 the best run I got it on day 9
1:11:01 The “what do you want to cure?” mechanic for painkillers is definitely weird. Umm, it’s in the name! 😂 Seems like it should be easy enough for the game to filter / only display the suitable conditions to cure. Maybe the idea is to make you think a bit more in a panic situation (e.g. after a wild attack)?
Rose hip tea cures the pain not the sprain. Curing pain is optional. Need to use a bandage or rest to cure the sprain and its effects. The game uses bad wording but the two part fix to completely heal sprains has been in place a long time.
I cant help but notice you're not slowing down to loot, which causes your double hunger and tired arrows to remain while you loot. Is that on purpose? I would think in this mode you need all the full-stomach that you can get.
throwing torches into the fire not increasing burntime, so harvest them makes sense I skiped back a couple seconds and you where in status screen when frigid bones, it droped from feels like 8 to 3 degrees
To be honest the functionality you are talking about in 1:12:36 is much more simpler to implement than what is right now, they should just not give the possibility to chose what you want to cure but give a tea an effect that all the pain is being removed while drinking. I Think it is just lazy as they are now just copying pasted functionality from different item that Works as it supposed
👍 awesome run and vid, as usual, Zak. I have seen tomasina dropping coal along the rope down !!! prior climbing down and picking it up after again (in her misery run, on way back from goldmine). Is that a technic you don't do intentionally?
Has anyone found a can opener on misery? I played 4 rounds of it over the 4th, stopped at the PV farmhouse every time and didn’t have it spawn once. Same for the bedroll - anyone find a bedroll?
Still not a Fan of that Afflictions come on Set Days , they should come when certain Conditions are met. Like you ignored the warmth Meter for to long and then it kicks in . Or you get attacked by a Wolf and then you get the fragile Body ( forgot the right Name here ) How Hinterland introduced them is just too gamey
I don't think they will change Misery much, though. We already tested it extensively and they made minor changes, and the mode so far has been positively or not-negatively received, so I don't think Misery is their priority right now.
The inevitability of it all is what makes it "misery" mode though, and if you only got the debuffs from misplays that would make it too easy to survive long-term imo
Scurvy sets in 50 days on voyageur or 'low' setting in custom, or 25 days on 'high'setting ehich is stalker and above. This assuming youre at the max vitamin C levels, which is 500 units, and youve eaten none since youve started. (10 unit drain a day vs 20 unit)
People keep complaining it's a shame they took the cougar out as people didn't get a chance to try it out. You could of turned off auto updates! They literally only removed the cougar from update v2.30 from v2.29! You can also revert back to v2.29. Time capsule exists so YOU can play the version you like.
Zaknafein, i got TLD about two weeks ago and got like 30 hours in the game. I havent survived past 21 days yet playing on voyager. Anyway i love your content and have no doubt watching you has helped me tremendouslyso far. Excited to see how far i can make it in my currebt run, first time starting in mystery lake. All my other games ive started coastal highway, and it seems much harder to me in mystery lake. What starting zone would you recommend me learning for moving forward?
It depends, but Mountain Town is good because it has a lot of loot and connnects to Mystery Lake. Pleasant Valley is also okay - lots of places to go, explore and loot
Yeah i had a hunting knife and cardboard matches show up recently on interloper in blackrock.😂 Also the imerial units for water and lantern fuel got bugged and it shows waaayyy more than is actually there. I just checked my other saves and they are the same. So now im using metric.😂
I imagine by now you've got the map pretty well memorized as you go directly to the the spawns for the gear you need. Do you ever use the detailed maps people have made or have you just learned where everything by playing?
I almost never use the online maps, as I learn them by experience. Occassionally I look at them for item spawns if I make a tutorial for lower difficulties
@@Zaknafein I appreciate the response. I'm looking to get back into TLD in the next winter break and thinking about what I want to do on my next run and I sometimes feel like there's so much I miss. I've never found the magnifying glass or backpack and am on the fence about whether I want to look it up or not.
So I'm day 50 on misery. To be honest it wasn't that hard. This is my first run at misery and I made it to 50 days pretty easily. I've played this game for a long time. I know maps like the back of my hand. So you start in PV. Hit a few key loot spots then off to AC for backpack and crampons, picked up combat pants at homesteaders on the way. Then to TWM summit where I got a hacksaw so I could loot up there. From there I bee lined to ML. Got a bedroll. Then I went straight for HRV for hammer and mackinaw. From there to Broken Railroad to forge. By the time I got to broken railroad I had a mackinaw and urban parka, 2pairs of combat pants, 2 underwear, 2 wool socks, 2 wool sweaters, and 2 improvised insulation. Plus a whole ton of cat tails and food, lots of flour, oil, salt. I was heavy but stocked. Think I got to BR about day 35. Made my bow and arrows and a knife. By this time I had sour stomach and was getting food poison often so i started burning through food. Bagged 4 wolf for a coat. Went and 1 shot the moose to the head, then 1 shot the bear. (I was so on point this game). I swear there's like 15-20 wolves at once out there. Decidedl to hunker down and wait for hides to cure. Day 47 I have my wolf coat and moose satchel. Plus I get broken bones. I have about 80% health. Continuing on from this point is pretty much pointless. The environment is such that you can't really travel without losing some health which means I figure I have another 3 days to play if it decide to travel. Or I whole up at BR which will suck cause there's not much food and you can't eat wolf meat. Guess we'll see what happens.
I thought I saw that too! I haven't watched long enough to find out, but if that's the case, damn like Zak said, it's the little mistakes that can cripple the run
I wish they would've introduced ways to battle these afflictions. I'd rather not spend so much time in a world knowing I basically don't even have a chance. This mode just isn't fun to me.
Exactly... Sour stomach, for instance, should be treatable with a diverse enough diet for X days.. then it can happen again if you don't pay attention to your diet for Y days.. a much better system IMO...
It's called misery for a reason. It is supposed to kill you, supposed to make you feel like your time is limited. If that's not something you find enjoyable, play a lower difficulty. There's nothing wrong with that, everyone has their own tates. I personally don't have fun with this mode eaither, but that doesn't mean that it should be changed to be easier
The entire point of this mode is that you're not supposed to be able to survive forever. There are people who enjoy that kind of scenario, and this mode is specifically for them. I personally don't find this scenario appealing and probably won't play misery more than once, but I don't object to it existing for the people who do like it.
I've got a simple question for you Zak. Would it be a viable exploit to make a fire with a couple of sticks and then take torches until the fire is out? Is it possible to take more torches than the amount of sticks, wood, or coal could provide? Could you then use those torches as fuel for another fire, thus having an unlimited supply of sticks?
so instead of adding more content to the game, more crafting recipes etc, all they did was to add new mode which will ruin any fun from the game after 5 affliction... great idea, why add more places to cook food at the fireplaces, why add the possibility to craft crude spear or low quality of clothes and make you start naked etc, why give the ability to start fire like real survivalist can, why add any of actual content to the game, lets just add more "story mode" nobody cares for and some useless modes which everyone can do himself in custom mode btw i love when people make mods with more content in it than the actual game has now, its hilarious this game should have mode when you play like an actual survivalist will, make fire without any tools, like they do if needed, craft any clothes from materials you can find or get from animals, craft tools forever cause if there was 1 mine with coal then the resources there will last forever for 1 person, just 1 trolley full of coal will last forever in this game i have the thought that after you look what modders did, you get more ideas of what that game lacks than devs has
tbh playing that game with weight capacity below 40 is already annoying, having any affliction which reduce that is infuriating, they should do something with clothes weight when you wear them (mean reduce it by a lot)
"Rheumatic joints", especially killed all the entertainment value for me.. others are somehow managable however annoying they are.. but taking away sprinting ability completely from a player is just bad design.. might as well play as a 80 year old man with a cane in his hand.. the same thing... BTW, the survival mode of this game needs a proper ending before anything else you could add.. the premise "how long can you survive" is the sole reason that discourages me from playing more than 150-200 days on a run.. it should instead be "can you survive till you actually make it alive out this island?".. put an ending like the one in the Hopeless Rescue challenge, but link it to the tales and some other secrets to uncover first.. or, lead the player to a broken boat and give an objective to repair it with intense and far complex crafting requirements.. that would make surviving so much more meaningful..
@@seckino82This game isn’t supposed to be like other survival games. It’s a different thing. If you could craft a spear, then why would you ever make a bow? It ruins the progression. If you could leave great bear, then why would people conserve resources for the long run? I kinda think story mode could be improved though.
@jericho5655 that is the actually the biggest problem of this game.. trying to be different than other games in a "misguided" way.. When did I say you should be able to craft x and y in 50 days or so and finish the game immediately?.. I'm talking about a really drawn out sequence where your preparation should take 200-300 days at least.. so none of that hoarded stuff for late would be wasted.. you would need every resource you can pile up until the time comes for you to escape/be rescued.. is it really that hard to understand?..
I aim to make 2 videos a week, but even that isn't always possible, and I have to decide what to prioritize in terms of content, too. I work full-time and have a small child, so my time is very limited. I would make the videos faster if I could, but in general you have to expect a week between each episode. Sorry.
@@Zaknafein Don't apologize, man, you've been a part of our lives for quite some years now, basically for a like or maybe subscription we get grade A+ content freely on this astonishing game that we all love so much. Oh, and congrats regarding the child, way to go, dude!
Are you a RUclipsr or a Long Dark lover? You make it sound like you only play the game to make RUclips videos. That’s not what I’ve gotten from your videos, just saying.
Havent tried misery yet any good tips on harvesting and cooking i feel like most of my time is wasted i feel like i could be using my time more efficient
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Misery is like an Old Age Simulator. “After thirty years living on the Mainland, Astrid returns to Great Bear Island to face her Final Journey.”
when you get to 40 you suddenly get all 6 afflictions overnight
2nd affliction took 5°warmth from you... It dropped from 8°down to 3°.... What did you say about NOGOA? Campfire simulator? Welcome in your new reality...😂
So someone already made it to day 100. I wonder how long will Zak hold out. Rooting for you man!
I think they used a food item that game condition restore, an oversight on the devs. Still an amazing feat though
@@dallashill23yeah those unique recipes are a bit over tuned, better than a stim…
@@dallashill23 I kind of assume that was intended because it still limited on a advanced game mechanic and harshly punishes Yoyoing/hibernation.
@@brendenhawley2225 I hope so because if that’s the case I’d be a bit more brave to try it out.
Who survived to day 100?
Hey zak, your awesome man. I tried to start your new interloper run with you, probably old to you, but your 500 series, and ive got it to where I load the same spawn and follow you and one time I got to day 46. The only differenve in our play, even when I follow your play region to region, is you dont ever stop, and that is what I did, amd it got to the point I coukd barely hatchet furs and not freeze to death, but I have watched your first few videos on your run and have tried to spawn where and when and you get to like day 8 where im at day 18. Either way, your awesome man, this game has helped my depression and hearing your voice is calming. Im sorry I dont got money to be a patron right now but when I can I will give back, your dope man.
Dont worry about any money pledge, my friend. Its a great compliment that you mirror my run. I am glad the videos help and hope you feel well! Stay awesome, friend!
I've just stated a new run, only on Voyager but I started in Ash Canyon and goated to the Homesteader's Respite then up to the mine to get the technical backpack!! game changer. Great strategy! I employ quite a few of your tips now after watching your videos. And when I died on my first attempt the other day I thought about your words that in even death there is a lesson (or something like that you said!!) Cheers.
I just wish I had started taking notes when I first started watching your videos, cos now I'm like "what did Zak say about so and so??"
I laugh in the face of misery mode, 5 out of 6 afflictions is my everyday life 😆
Great episode as usual Zak!
I enjoy watching the misery difficulty, but I don't think I'll play it. I prefer a more comfy difficulty where I can traverse the maps and collect resources without too much trouble.
Agreed
An easy solution to the painkiller problem would be for cures to only prompt issues they can cure. So painkillers would ask you which pain you would want to cure. So if you had 2 sprains, you would still need 2 doses of painkillers for the pain, but there is no chance of accidentally trying to cure the sprain itself
1:11:01 The “what do you want to cure?” mechanic for painkillers is definitely weird. Umm, it’s in the name! 😂 Seems like it should be easy enough for the game to filter / only display the suitable conditions to cure. Maybe the idea is to make you think a bit more in a panic situation (e.g. after a wolf attack)?
My second affliction was sour stomach. I'm powering on. Day 8 and not doing bad. Never really played Interloper but certainly will begin once this run is over. Thank you for all the great advice you provide during your videos.
I always found it funny that I have to take an aspirin for each body part that hurts. You can ingest a whole bottle and be fine because you have 3 to 4 sprains.
I'm in 16 day I preferred to hit the desolation point. I have a bow, a sleeping bag, 10 arrows, rabbit gloves/hat, and the moose skin is already 90% dry, I will wait, after the coastal highway I will hit the TWM and also get a backpack. I think that after day 45 with a broken body you can survive at such a desolation point, exploring the world 100% is unlikely without treatment, at least with birch
Ranger Stew gives back 10% health instantly. You can 100% the world with that
Your voice is so relaxing, could listen to it for hours. I am a non native speaker but i do understand every word, thanks for that! You have a really smooth way to play this game even on misery.
Archimedes is already working on an Outer Misery run. It is very interesting.
I love the editing and voiceover, you make everything so simple and easy to understand
I'm pretty sure there is no voiceover and Zak just provide so much useful information live, while playing !
This is not a voiceover I am sure.
Wondering what your thoughts are on making a badge for surviving 100 days on Misery Mode?
That would be cool, but considering they aimed for people to die in a few dozen days, I'd say the badge should simply be to reach the final affliction (Day 46)
@@Zaknafein "Can`t-believe-you`ve-made-it-that-far" badge
@@ZaknafeinI would say the badge should be for surviving 10 days past broken body. That seems enough
I completely agree with the stuff about rose hip tea. I think it would be better if there was some way mechanically to “learn” what does what (maybe similar to reading but slightly more accessible in the early game) like how rose hip tea is a painkiller and rieshi is an antibiotic, that way there’s not that strange way of taking medicine/drinking tea that has a use but does nothing because you didn’t technically use the right prompt
Good grief, I remember early versions of this game where saplings were so uncommon it was a grind to even find 1
44:00 that body is also one of the spawns for the curator rife
This is my new favorite series, i was checking channel all these days.
Sardines have a pull tin tab so you can open them without can opener.
I made my first moose hide satchel recently and I recognise the importance of way too much carry capacity
I’d never play this game mode but this is very fun to watch
I love this series, I wonder how long you will survive. The new intro music is great, it's the sound of things getting serious !
So far so good ! The fish crate help a lot for the calories.
love these episodes, cant wait for the next one!
Zak could say "Smash that dog food!" like some RUclipsrs say "Smash that Like Button!"
Love this series keep this up!
37:53 the youtuber Even Dark found a hacksaw on the misery in a container near the forge and that was not intended to happen because you can't really find any loot table items in random containers, and the hacksaw he found was invisible, also you cannot find hammer in a region with the forge but there used to be a bug where you could find invisible hammer in a container. Or you could also find an invisible stim in a first aid kit on interloper difficulty
Interesting challenge, think I'd last 5 minutes 😂. Jo Devon 🙂
43:57 - also you can find curators rifle near corpse
I actually found the infamous bear coat one time in that spot❄️
Getting frigid bone as the second is probably the hardest scenario one can get (haunted mind debatable?) Byebye for indoor positive temp
Good job
I disagree with you about the clothing,
You mostly say it's useless (mostly in episode 1). IMO it is very useful to get very good clothing as fast as possible (depending on your 2nd affliction, I think double insulation layer from day 6ish will be meta). In the mid game, it will help you sleep in caves without any fire (with upgraded bedroll), saving lots of ressources.
Frigid bones makes it even more important to have the best clothing you can as you lose time making more fires, staying longer at each fire to warm up. You need to drink so many teas with poor clothing, that you spend a lot of time collecting/crafting those teas.
And when you get "haunted mind" affliction, it really begins to be a game changer to get the best clothing possible. Health regeneration at night it really low (as you no longer get those crazy buffs from sleeping hours 8 to 10).
To summerize, learn Ptarmigans spawns very early game (+1 sewing kit + some cloth). For mid game, learn as many birch bark locations as possible as it's the best way to still be able to use HP as a ressource before "broken bones" kicks in.
On a side note, I do like your plan. I do it very differently, going to the gold mine and Summit only late days 30's, early 40's. I might get ideas from you on my next run !
Edit: coal spawn locations are also going to be very important to master !
Food cooked in pots and skillets (pies, stews, etc) have a small chance to cause cause food poisoning if they are low condition. I think it's 20% when they are ruined, and safe above 25%? It's something like that.
Nice video👍🏾
The wolves run and charge faster in this difficulty. Those wolves were not Loper wolves.
I have also found wooden matches at the end of one of those bridges on interloper
Current cases of not knowing everything 0 😂
i was watching ddrjake and i noticed food cooked from ruined food like pies would get 100% condition, maybe you could also store cooking ingredients in the cat tail stockpile to make use of ruined food!
I can't believe you carried three salts weighing .75kg and I'm kinda watching to see when you use them or discard them
Is crouching when goating not worth it? I always thought it refuced sprain risk
Yes, but you can go to Archimedes channel and watch the video 'Never Get Sprains Again! | The Long Dark' for more details.
if youre patient enough to crouch 😂
Dude thank you that video was enlightening @@slartibartf4st
I've had a 2nd affliction 3 times so far and each time it was the same one. Reduce sleep to 7hrs and reduce recovery by 50 percent. And yeah you can get it on day 5 the best run I got it on day 9
1:11:01 The “what do you want to cure?” mechanic for painkillers is definitely weird. Umm, it’s in the name! 😂 Seems like it should be easy enough for the game to filter / only display the suitable conditions to cure. Maybe the idea is to make you think a bit more in a panic situation (e.g. after a wild attack)?
Rose hip tea cures the pain not the sprain. Curing pain is optional. Need to use a bandage or rest to cure the sprain and its effects. The game uses bad wording but the two part fix to completely heal sprains has been in place a long time.
Eventually there is 0 health regeneration? Crazy.
I cant help but notice you're not slowing down to loot, which causes your double hunger and tired arrows to remain while you loot. Is that on purpose? I would think in this mode you need all the full-stomach that you can get.
Kinda - I had a tutorial on that mechanic but usually neglect it out of laziness.
throwing torches into the fire not increasing burntime, so harvest them makes sense
I skiped back a couple seconds and you where in status screen when frigid bones, it droped from feels like 8 to 3 degrees
So permanent -5 degrees. Overpowers cold fusion's +2, not that you could take fests anyways. Not to mention taking longer to warm up.
46:12 Zak finds matches and a Jerry can at the same time. Which one will excite him more??
I’m on day 6 on misery and my second affliction was the broken body one 😫 I mainly play pilgrim 😅
To be honest the functionality you are talking about in 1:12:36 is much more simpler to implement than what is right now, they should just not give the possibility to chose what you want to cure but give a tea an effect that all the pain is being removed while drinking. I Think it is just lazy as they are now just copying pasted functionality from different item that Works as it supposed
In misery is there one prepper cache with a loot or they all are emty?
All empty, like on interloper
👍 awesome run and vid, as usual, Zak. I have seen tomasina dropping coal along the rope down !!! prior climbing down and picking it up after again (in her misery run, on way back from goldmine).
Is that a technic you don't do intentionally?
Yes, just cant be bothered :)
I don't understand, does she climb down, drop coal, go up again? Is she using it going up or down?
@@lajsa8160 no you got to the edge, and when you drop something, it goes to the bottom
@@Zaknafein Thanks for the answer! I had no idea. I love this game, you always learn something new. Tack!
It was right on release so probably a bug but I found 20 cardboard matches on Misery, I was also getting the sodas that don't spawn in interloper
There are sodas on Interloper.
Has anyone found a can opener on misery? I played 4 rounds of it over the 4th, stopped at the PV farmhouse every time and didn’t have it spawn once. Same for the bedroll - anyone find a bedroll?
He mentioned he found one in the farm house in the first area randomly in a drawer in the last vid
40:08 Thank you, Zak. I am having a nice time
I have a lot to learn i tried interloper and can’t make to day 2,my problem is I don’t know all the maps too well….i rely on charcoal
Still not a Fan of that Afflictions come on Set Days , they should come when certain Conditions are met. Like you ignored the warmth Meter for to long and then it kicks in . Or you get attacked by a Wolf and then you get the fragile Body ( forgot the right Name here )
How Hinterland introduced them is just too gamey
Interesting idea. We will see what Hinterland will do. I expect them to change a lot of things, like they did with the cougar.
I don't think they will change Misery much, though. We already tested it extensively and they made minor changes, and the mode so far has been positively or not-negatively received, so I don't think Misery is their priority right now.
Eh I mean it's gamey but that's the nature of the mode. The afflictions hitting on specific days means you can't mess around.
The inevitability of it all is what makes it "misery" mode though, and if you only got the debuffs from misplays that would make it too easy to survive long-term imo
Scurvy sets in 50 days on voyageur or 'low' setting in custom, or 25 days on 'high'setting ehich is stalker and above. This assuming youre at the max vitamin C levels, which is 500 units, and youve eaten none since youve started. (10 unit drain a day vs 20 unit)
Damn it, this is the second time I click on your videos thinking I'm getting a S.t.a.l.k.e.r video lol
The best game that has ever been made👍👍
People keep complaining it's a shame they took the cougar out as people didn't get a chance to try it out. You could of turned off auto updates! They literally only removed the cougar from update v2.30 from v2.29! You can also revert back to v2.29. Time capsule exists so YOU can play the version you like.
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Where/when did he find the hunting knife? I must have gotten too focused on my knitting and missed it
Zaknafein, i got TLD about two weeks ago and got like 30 hours in the game. I havent survived past 21 days yet playing on voyager. Anyway i love your content and have no doubt watching you has helped me tremendouslyso far. Excited to see how far i can make it in my currebt run, first time starting in mystery lake. All my other games ive started coastal highway, and it seems much harder to me in mystery lake. What starting zone would you recommend me learning for moving forward?
It depends, but Mountain Town is good because it has a lot of loot and connnects to Mystery Lake. Pleasant Valley is also okay - lots of places to go, explore and loot
Been explorong pleasant valley last 4 hours bht keep getting lost haha.
Isnt it a little dangerous running around with sprains, if the affliction sets in ?
I literally just watched part 1
Yeah i had a hunting knife and cardboard matches show up recently on interloper in blackrock.😂 Also the imerial units for water and lantern fuel got bugged and it shows waaayyy more than is actually there. I just checked my other saves and they are the same. So now im using metric.😂
Hi Zak- do you know of anyone who has fallen through the crack in the road at Sundered Pass? Other than me that is. LOL
already 50% health or less. how are you going to survive long like that...?
Health recovery is normal until later afflictions, so its no issue atm
@@Zaknafein aha, that is handy eh
Would we be correct to assume it’s impossible to find the Preppers Pie recipe in MISERY? Since there are no bunker spawns just like Interloper?
You can find it on loper. All bunkers are empty but one of them still has the recipe :)
I never got the cougar
It will come back don’t worry
I imagine by now you've got the map pretty well memorized as you go directly to the the spawns for the gear you need. Do you ever use the detailed maps people have made or have you just learned where everything by playing?
I almost never use the online maps, as I learn them by experience. Occassionally I look at them for item spawns if I make a tutorial for lower difficulties
@@Zaknafein I appreciate the response. I'm looking to get back into TLD in the next winter break and thinking about what I want to do on my next run and I sometimes feel like there's so much I miss. I've never found the magnifying glass or backpack and am on the fence about whether I want to look it up or not.
Zak, for a brief moment at timestamp 38:14, you were warming up outside!
Thats because that small area is actually a cave :)
I’m so invested in this series! Tysm for all your valuable commentary 🙌
So I'm day 50 on misery. To be honest it wasn't that hard. This is my first run at misery and I made it to 50 days pretty easily. I've played this game for a long time. I know maps like the back of my hand. So you start in PV. Hit a few key loot spots then off to AC for backpack and crampons, picked up combat pants at homesteaders on the way. Then to TWM summit where I got a hacksaw so I could loot up there. From there I bee lined to ML. Got a bedroll. Then I went straight for HRV for hammer and mackinaw. From there to Broken Railroad to forge. By the time I got to broken railroad I had a mackinaw and urban parka, 2pairs of combat pants, 2 underwear, 2 wool socks, 2 wool sweaters, and 2 improvised insulation. Plus a whole ton of cat tails and food, lots of flour, oil, salt. I was heavy but stocked. Think I got to BR about day 35. Made my bow and arrows and a knife. By this time I had sour stomach and was getting food poison often so i started burning through food. Bagged 4 wolf for a coat. Went and 1 shot the moose to the head, then 1 shot the bear. (I was so on point this game). I swear there's like 15-20 wolves at once out there. Decidedl to hunker down and wait for hides to cure. Day 47 I have my wolf coat and moose satchel. Plus I get broken bones. I have about 80% health. Continuing on from this point is pretty much pointless. The environment is such that you can't really travel without losing some health which means I figure I have another 3 days to play if it decide to travel. Or I whole up at BR which will suck cause there's not much food and you can't eat wolf meat. Guess we'll see what happens.
Wait you mentioned the crampons can spawn on the summit? Since when?
Since the loot refresh a few months ago!
@@callmekrismael7023 oh damn so now theyre gaurenteed at the gold mine but theres a chance of them at the summit? Thats interesting
No they can be in one or the other or both. Its since they added the DLC
Did the skillet get left on the fire?
I thought I saw that too! I haven't watched long enough to find out, but if that's the case, damn like Zak said, it's the little mistakes that can cripple the run
@@jugomebuI think he picked up the content but not the skillet. Still watching to the end!
@@jugomebuno it didn’t. By the time he’s in the mine he still has both! Just didn’t look like it.
@@mrsmw2020ahh, you're spot on! I just got to that part, phew.
I wish they would've introduced ways to battle these afflictions. I'd rather not spend so much time in a world knowing I basically don't even have a chance. This mode just isn't fun to me.
Exactly...
Sour stomach, for instance, should be treatable with a diverse enough diet for X days.. then it can happen again if you don't pay attention to your diet for Y days.. a much better system IMO...
It's called misery for a reason. It is supposed to kill you, supposed to make you feel like your time is limited. If that's not something you find enjoyable, play a lower difficulty. There's nothing wrong with that, everyone has their own tates. I personally don't have fun with this mode eaither, but that doesn't mean that it should be changed to be easier
The entire point of this mode is that you're not supposed to be able to survive forever. There are people who enjoy that kind of scenario, and this mode is specifically for them. I personally don't find this scenario appealing and probably won't play misery more than once, but I don't object to it existing for the people who do like it.
I've got a simple question for you Zak. Would it be a viable exploit to make a fire with a couple of sticks and then take torches until the fire is out? Is it possible to take more torches than the amount of sticks, wood, or coal could provide? Could you then use those torches as fuel for another fire, thus having an unlimited supply of sticks?
Yes its possible, but from what I recall you need to be high enough Fire Starting. I think Wonz did this years ago
Does spray can explode near fire?
No
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I can’t support the idea of a “Kill the player” mentality. It should be far harder than interloper, but doable for a really conscious player.
Thats the idea behind the mode. Only a really conscious player, as you say, can manage.
How is this even fun
so instead of adding more content to the game, more crafting recipes etc, all they did was to add new mode which will ruin any fun from the game after 5 affliction...
great idea, why add more places to cook food at the fireplaces, why add the possibility to craft crude spear or low quality of clothes and make you start naked etc, why give the ability to start fire like real survivalist can, why add any of actual content to the game, lets just add more "story mode" nobody cares for and some useless modes which everyone can do himself in custom mode
btw i love when people make mods with more content in it than the actual game has now, its hilarious
this game should have mode when you play like an actual survivalist will, make fire without any tools, like they do if needed, craft any clothes from materials you can find or get from animals, craft tools forever cause if there was 1 mine with coal then the resources there will last forever for 1 person, just 1 trolley full of coal will last forever in this game
i have the thought that after you look what modders did, you get more ideas of what that game lacks than devs has
tbh playing that game with weight capacity below 40 is already annoying, having any affliction which reduce that is infuriating, they should do something with clothes weight when you wear them (mean reduce it by a lot)
"Rheumatic joints", especially killed all the entertainment value for me.. others are somehow managable however annoying they are.. but taking away sprinting ability completely from a player is just bad design.. might as well play as a 80 year old man with a cane in his hand.. the same thing...
BTW, the survival mode of this game needs a proper ending before anything else you could add.. the premise "how long can you survive" is the sole reason that discourages me from playing more than 150-200 days on a run.. it should instead be "can you survive till you actually make it alive out this island?".. put an ending like the one in the Hopeless Rescue challenge, but link it to the tales and some other secrets to uncover first.. or, lead the player to a broken boat and give an objective to repair it with intense and far complex crafting requirements.. that would make surviving so much more meaningful..
@@seckino82This game isn’t supposed to be like other survival games. It’s a different thing. If you could craft a spear, then why would you ever make a bow? It ruins the progression. If you could leave great bear, then why would people conserve resources for the long run? I kinda think story mode could be improved though.
@jericho5655 that is the actually the biggest problem of this game.. trying to be different than other games in a "misguided" way..
When did I say you should be able to craft x and y in 50 days or so and finish the game immediately?.. I'm talking about a really drawn out sequence where your preparation should take 200-300 days at least.. so none of that hoarded stuff for late would be wasted.. you would need every resource you can pile up until the time comes for you to escape/be rescued.. is it really that hard to understand?..
@@seckino82 I guess I misinterpreted what you meant with that.
In my opinion too long between chapter 1 and now 2 ... I forget what happen in 1 part of misery
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You polish?
Rewatch part one :P 5 days between episodes is rather quick. Zak isn’t a full time youtuber and uploads a lot anyway.
I aim to make 2 videos a week, but even that isn't always possible, and I have to decide what to prioritize in terms of content, too. I work full-time and have a small child, so my time is very limited. I would make the videos faster if I could, but in general you have to expect a week between each episode. Sorry.
@@Zaknafein Don't apologize, man, you've been a part of our lives for quite some years now, basically for a like or maybe subscription we get grade A+ content freely on this astonishing game that we all love so much. Oh, and congrats regarding the child, way to go, dude!
Are you a RUclipsr or a Long Dark lover? You make it sound like you only play the game to make RUclips videos. That’s not what I’ve gotten from your videos, just saying.
He’s both, I imagine. He loves the game, clearly, and he needs to think about making good content.
Havent tried misery yet any good tips on harvesting and cooking i feel like most of my time is wasted i feel like i could be using my time more efficient
I should make a. Run but I want a to play misery when we get the cougar back might be fun