Return of the Turn, Episode 11 - Mogul Skiing at Mary Jane

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2021
  • In this episode, Marcus travels to Mary Jane at Winter Park Resort in Colorado to ski the "mogul capital of the world". Teaming up with Tats (Chris Tatsuno) the pair learns why this is one of the only places left that doesn't groom their runs and why that's a special thing. Featuring Mary Jane locals Freddy Mooney and Julie Ray.
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  • @vangrindz8650
    @vangrindz8650 2 года назад +104

    "If you think that moguls sucks, it's not the moguls that suck"
    - Return Of The Turn
    Please make this a bump sticker. I mean bumper sticker.

    • @sorenwolff4954
      @sorenwolff4954 2 года назад

      Dam right!!!!!

    • @dan.r9220
      @dan.r9220 2 года назад

      So I'm a snowboarder and stumbled upon this video. Why is this fun? It looks horrific time on your knees. Is it literally just because it's harder than a groomed run?

    • @sorenwolff4954
      @sorenwolff4954 2 года назад

      @@dan.r9220 snowboarders with bumps even harder and better. I'm speaking from experience. Granted, Jake Burton did not design the snowboard for bumps Maryland for Backcountry and powder. But they turned out to be a versatile platform for virtually any condition on or off area.

    • @dan.r9220
      @dan.r9220 2 года назад

      @@sorenwolff4954 right, but why do people find doing either sport on this type of terrain fun? That's my question.

    • @sorenwolff4954
      @sorenwolff4954 2 года назад +2

      @@dan.r9220 There are some people in this world and from my experience quite a few who find great satisfaction in challenging themselves with new experiences and overcoming obstacles both mental and physical like bumps, to be very gratifying. If one is choosing to ride lift access areas and consciously choose not to ride and bumps you might as well not ride lift access areas. Because from my experience a few days after any snow storm most areas look like a golf ball. And once again you are limiting yourself to the train you can ride on very few days. Simply put you're limiting experiences that life offers you though they may be challenging.

  • @jamesdriskell4820
    @jamesdriskell4820 2 года назад +53

    Anyone can jump off a cliff, you don't even have to know HOW to ski, few can pound down through moguls. You guys make it look beautiful, great skiing in great conditions. There's a few runs they never groom at my local resort, Mt. Rose, and one of them is right under the lift and like how Marcus answered the question, "Why do you ski?", "for the guys in the chair above me". You're performing for them and you make the best performance out there. You're an opera singer of the slopes or Grace Vanderwaal with her ukulele! Keep it real!

    • @replicatingsps4118
      @replicatingsps4118 2 года назад +1

      I skied mt rose my whole life until this year, reno local?

  • @Polychromophilia
    @Polychromophilia Год назад +4

    “It’s not that you can’t ski moguls. It’s that you can’t ski, and the moguls just show it.”

  • @BrandonMeyer1641
    @BrandonMeyer1641 2 года назад +8

    “If you think that moguls suck, it’s not the moguls that suck…. It’s something else” is the funniest and truest line from this vid

  • @kylehenley6248
    @kylehenley6248 2 года назад +12

    There are generations of Mary Jane bumpers who greatly appreciate this! One of the best ROTT thus far.

  • @BoyajianDon
    @BoyajianDon 2 года назад +39

    Great episode, but Marcus needs to come out east! I think it would be a Return of the Turn classic. We never have lost our love for a perfect turn on less than perfect snow!

    • @kabooby0
      @kabooby0 2 года назад +5

      Would love to see him at Mad River Glen. Ski it if you can!

  • @rywa7227
    @rywa7227 2 года назад +7

    “Skiing people’s fears and emotions” 😂

  • @sorenwolff4954
    @sorenwolff4954 2 года назад +17

    Like the great Glen Plake said In the legendary film fist full of moguls. You can buy a groomer turn with carving skis, you can buy a powder turn with fat skis🤪 but you can’t buy a ski that makes you a better mogul skier. If you are not in balance, you can’t ski moguls. One may think they ski in balance, moguls let you know if you are!

    • @ptk421
      @ptk421 2 года назад +2

      My K2 Silencers are as close as I’ve found to buying a ski for bumps.

    • @changer6
      @changer6 4 месяца назад +1

      K2 KVC comps!

  • @chrissd08
    @chrissd08 2 года назад +5

    I'm no Johnny Mosley!! Come to Whitefish we'll ski some fog!

  • @dannywalton5949
    @dannywalton5949 2 года назад +8

    TAT'S!!!!!!! Tatsuno's skiing just gets smoother. Love how silent his body is.
    Nice work gents!

  • @markjones3425
    @markjones3425 2 года назад +8

    Once Upon a Time Mary Jane was only for skis longer than 210cm and the moguls were HUGE and FAST!...very memorable runs had there with some very fast skiers, many on 223cm!!

    • @colton107
      @colton107 2 года назад +3

      It would have been nice to grow up during that era

    • @_e5598
      @_e5598 Год назад +1

      They're still huge and fast, we just ride way fatter skis in them now. Gave up some length for some width.

  • @kantarjiev
    @kantarjiev 2 года назад +9

    So much stoke. I suck at moguls, but this makes me want to keep trying to suck less.

  • @YAOZYVIDEO
    @YAOZYVIDEO 2 года назад +19

    You chose the wrong day to film this episode. The bumps were too soft on this day.

    • @kenjohnston1257
      @kenjohnston1257 5 месяцев назад +2

      Wrong day to film, perfect day to be there

    • @peterfreeman3317
      @peterfreeman3317 5 месяцев назад +1

      It’s CO, the snow and bumps are always soft. Some days just softer! The Jane rips.

  • @tridoc99
    @tridoc99 7 месяцев назад +1

    That was a beautiful thing to see!

  • @philipmarsh3522
    @philipmarsh3522 5 месяцев назад +1

    I never really 'got' moguls until I took a 1:1 lesson at Winter Park to learn the right way to ski them. I'm told they have the best moguls, best mogul skiers and best instructors and since then I've loved and seek out mogul runs.

  • @BStead
    @BStead 2 года назад +6

    Come to Bumpapalooza

  • @julierayrealtor7996
    @julierayrealtor7996 Год назад +16

    I had so much fun skiing with you both! The snow was epic! Let's plan a repeat this season!!!

    • @datukalex
      @datukalex 4 месяца назад +1

      So cool to see you in this! Love your channel.

  • @mattstelck1138
    @mattstelck1138 Год назад +3

    Usually, Bump skiers are the best skiers on any mountain!! Especially old school bump skiers..

  • @bradl1369
    @bradl1369 Год назад +2

    Marcus come to Mad River Glen!

  • @carni6319
    @carni6319 2 года назад +2

    Outhouse is relentless!

  • @dereksaxmann8623
    @dereksaxmann8623 Год назад +1

    It’s been years and years for me, but back when I was at my max, Mary Jane was so worth the trip from Vermont. Every bump skier should go 👍👍

  • @jfkdotcom
    @jfkdotcom 2 года назад +2

    This is year number 30 for me living here in WP! SEND SNOW! Good to see Freddie in this vid....

  • @AlexAnder-ky2ce
    @AlexAnder-ky2ce 2 года назад +11

    Wooo! Another ROTT masterpiece, thanks for another excellent hype piece!

  • @skiaddict4937
    @skiaddict4937 2 года назад +2

    Drunken Frenchman........my fave. No Pain, No Jane.

  • @robertgoodwin4730
    @robertgoodwin4730 2 года назад +1

    So beautiful I want to cry….
    OR GET MY FREAKIN SKIS ON AND HIT THE BUMPS AND JUMPS!!!!
    Return of the Turn MAKE ME FEEL ALIVE!!!

  • @hongziyang
    @hongziyang 2 года назад +3

    My home hill growing up. Love that place!!

  • @chrisskiingpowpow
    @chrisskiingpowpow Год назад +1

    Can’t remember how many times I’ve watched this lol love love it so much

  • @shanehill4290
    @shanehill4290 2 года назад +2

    That shredding guitar at the end!! Makes me want to rip some bumps!

  • @connorw2980
    @connorw2980 2 года назад +3

    You are truly the most underrated youtuber. I’ve watched all your videos and I loved every one.

  • @Moguls4life
    @Moguls4life Месяц назад

    It was a pleasure to meet you a the Jane marcus

  • @benanderson569
    @benanderson569 2 года назад +4

    Freddy Mooney?? Legend.

  • @ski6712
    @ski6712 Год назад +1

    my brother and i skied the renowned mary jane mogul run back in 1977 /while we were at a elbert series fis gs/sl on the winter park race hill./ the run was a challenge and really put you on your centre balance point. watching the skiers on this video reminded me of "the performers" my favourite style of mogul skiing☺.

  • @chadridsdale9970
    @chadridsdale9970 2 года назад +3

    I lovevthis series. I LOVE the bumps. I miss they days after a fresh dump a group of us would go out and set lap after lap making zipper lines. We were all on skinny straight skis

  • @wolfpatrol318
    @wolfpatrol318 2 года назад +1

    Great video!
    Gonna put Winter Park on my bucket list, snow quality looks amazing.

  • @johannorberg4174
    @johannorberg4174 Год назад +2

    Mad respect for pushing so fast through moguls! Old ski racers but I wouldnt be able ski even half as fast....and stylish while doing it....no way in hell lol!
    Super sick!

  • @SansibarRacing
    @SansibarRacing 2 года назад +2

    Bumps!!
    Awwwsome episode. I slightly prefer the previous one, but the sheer look from birds eye's view makes this one special. Would be awesome to ski there (that's what I say, not my knees...)!

  • @grobs21
    @grobs21 2 года назад +1

    yes ! real skiers skiing keep inspiring us!

  • @GreenGenesMr
    @GreenGenesMr 2 года назад +4

    Dude ! Tats is a fin beautiful skier to watch too !!!!!!! Sickkkkk

  • @crazyweirdproductions
    @crazyweirdproductions 2 года назад +1

    Nice, moguls for life🤣, great vid!

  • @swampymaan
    @swampymaan Год назад +2

    "...get away from me creep..."

  • @faceinthecrowd5810
    @faceinthecrowd5810 2 года назад +1

    Brings me back to when I had functional knees!!!

  • @markhuru
    @markhuru Год назад +2

    Old days, sun valley had good moguls, telluride has the biggest moguls…there are good moguls else where too…

  • @sir_bumpalot
    @sir_bumpalot 2 года назад +3

    Bumps riding technic is so similar to modern racing technic. In racing/carving you do a "virtual" bump when changing the edges.
    In my dreams i can ride bumps as seen here. :)

  • @johnwebster8733
    @johnwebster8733 4 месяца назад +1

    An ounce of Mary Jane is worth a pound of Aspen.

  • @GC198
    @GC198 2 года назад +3

    Grande Marcus!!!!!!

  • @brianli3493
    @brianli3493 8 месяцев назад

    winter season is coming babyy

  • @guybrilando2006
    @guybrilando2006 2 года назад +2

    Excellent!!

    • @guybrilando2006
      @guybrilando2006 2 года назад +4

      Love that at the end - If you think the moguls suck; it's not the moguls that suck. LOL!!!

  • @kavinski762
    @kavinski762 2 года назад +1

    these dudes make mary jane seen alot harder than it actually is

  • @Timxxon
    @Timxxon 2 года назад +2

    Without training moguls when I was young, I would never be the skier I’m today. I believe if you can master a step icy moguls run you will make it down everywhere

  • @maxwanderson227
    @maxwanderson227 2 года назад

    These moguls are intense on a snowboard haha but so fun when you get that right flow

  • @goodridevibes
    @goodridevibes 2 года назад +2

    So funny my cousins were literally just talking about how they go to Mary Jane for moguls last night at a Christmas party 🎊

  • @Artiscrafty
    @Artiscrafty 2 года назад +1

    Cool flic Nice turns

  • @southern1084
    @southern1084 2 года назад +1

    Yes!

  • @RCJH2022
    @RCJH2022 2 года назад

    5:45 Those really are the best dreams!! 🤣

  • @TheHochschieber
    @TheHochschieber Год назад

    Epic! At our resorts in the Alps you really rarely find moguls, everything is groomed.

  • @northernguy8860
    @northernguy8860 2 года назад

    That was fun.

  • @Volteran
    @Volteran 2 года назад +2

    Yaaaaayyyy!

  • @johngeronimo8172
    @johngeronimo8172 Год назад

    Ok, another resort added to my bucket list. Just need to find my self a pair of skinnier skis. Gonna go out to the garage to see if I can find my old pair of K2 Gyrator, or even better, the Dynastar Assault 😍 Thanks!!!

    • @atonenjr
      @atonenjr 3 месяца назад +1

      Word is out that Blizzard Thermo V20 are the ones to have. Made for the best in the world.

  • @kenjohnston1257
    @kenjohnston1257 5 месяцев назад

    Skiing real moguls (not shitty zipperlines) is the most challenging human sporting endeavor there is. There's nothing else that demands more in terms of spontaneity, ingenuity, and full-body fluidity

    • @atonenjr
      @atonenjr 3 месяца назад

      Alex Honnold has entered the chat.

  • @samducharme4863
    @samducharme4863 4 месяца назад

    Wowza!

  • @izzyplusplusplus1004
    @izzyplusplusplus1004 2 года назад

    I learned to whip my board and managed to get comfy on mj in Winter Park. ♡

  • @rullestaden
    @rullestaden 2 года назад +2

    When are you gonna do a telemark episode? 😍😍

  • @stephen-he4iw
    @stephen-he4iw 6 месяцев назад

    these guys are insane

  • @oogabooga4047
    @oogabooga4047 2 года назад +2

    Ride big chair my Norquay

  • @szuber42
    @szuber42 Год назад

    Man if only I had whatever skis he had I could also ski bumps like that.

  • @bayard1332
    @bayard1332 Год назад +1

    Tats is an epic bump skier. To be so smooth and quiet in the Jane's punishing bumps is amazing.

  • @Snappy-ut4bj
    @Snappy-ut4bj 2 года назад +1

    No question. Bump skiers that can do it rip. Nelson Carmichael steamboat 93’

  • @stevereynolds547
    @stevereynolds547 2 года назад +1

    Moguls don't suck. Well, icy moguls kinda suck but, there they are.

  • @tylerwilson2280
    @tylerwilson2280 2 года назад

    So sick

  • @EdgarSnowSki
    @EdgarSnowSki 2 года назад +7

    Epic skiing! Which blizzard skis are best for moguls ? :)

    • @sir_bumpalot
      @sir_bumpalot 2 года назад +2

      The ski used in video is the Bonafide i guess.

    • @EdgarSnowSki
      @EdgarSnowSki 2 года назад +1

      @@sir_bumpalot these are with two sheets of metal. Are these too stiff for moguls? I guess for those guys with that level of skiing it doesn't matter which skis to use.

    • @thomasmedeiros5722
      @thomasmedeiros5722 2 года назад +3

      Marcus was probably on the Bonafides but his ski buddy might have been on the Rustler 9 if I saw the color of the top sheet on his skis. If you’re not a film star super skier like Marcus the Rustler 9 with it’s single Titanal layer that is cutout in the shovel and tail with generous rocker and 92-94 mm waist depending on ski length is a fun ski In bumps, trees and soft snow. My favorite Blizzard for this type of terrain at Alta, UT.

    • @christatsuno
      @christatsuno 2 года назад +13

      We were both on Blizzard Brahmas. Great ski for those conditions!

    • @SkiDaBird
      @SkiDaBird 2 года назад

      Anything with the strength to power through a mistake, but the quickness to help avoid that mistake in the first place, works great. I've got 4 sets of skis, and all 4 have advantages and disadvantages in the bumps. Your style will be slightly different on any ski, but the reality of moguls is that there is nowhere to hide, so whatever ski you have, you just have to try your best and that's gonna do.

  • @hbeytollah
    @hbeytollah 2 года назад +1

    Rippper!

  • @kabooby0
    @kabooby0 2 года назад

    Fuck yes!

  • @NoProDad
    @NoProDad 2 года назад

    Another epic EP!
    Question, are those rustler 10's Marcus is on? 🧐

    • @returnoftheturn3534
      @returnoftheturn3534  2 года назад +4

      Everyone is on Brahma

    • @NoProDad
      @NoProDad 2 года назад +1

      @@returnoftheturn3534 awesome, thanks!

    • @FlimFlamvanHam
      @FlimFlamvanHam Год назад +1

      Rustlers! Mercy...

    • @FlimFlamvanHam
      @FlimFlamvanHam Год назад

      @@returnoftheturn3534 could have sworn I saw a dark top sheet in there and guessed and was further awed that might mean Bonafides. All 88's or any 82's used?

    • @FlimFlamvanHam
      @FlimFlamvanHam Год назад

      Ignore. 4:58. 88's.

  • @orlyrabbit
    @orlyrabbit 2 года назад

    “Moguls is what we’re known for…moguls is what people come to Mary Jane to ski…”
    Moguls ARE what we’re known for…moguls ARE…

  • @colinmckenna4289
    @colinmckenna4289 Год назад

    Anyone know what kind of skis they're on?

  • @SKIFOREVER
    @SKIFOREVER 3 месяца назад

    Some one play fortune son

  • @markhuru
    @markhuru Год назад

    I’m confused, isnt there a run called Mary Jane at winter park, and is Arapaho a-basin

    • @Mtb_5670
      @Mtb_5670 Год назад

      Mary Jane is an area in Winter Park Resort. However, the run mary Jane is just a run people take from the main area of wibter park, to mary Jane.

  • @ktmt3946
    @ktmt3946 2 года назад +1

    While I have full respect and awe for the athleticism of modern world cup competition mogul skiers, the uniform bumps and homogenized runs have, for me at least, lost the essence of mogul skiing. Mogul skiing should be on the edge, ragged, full of improvisation and spontaneity. It embodies what shredding is all about. This video perfectly captures what pure bump skiing is. Like Marcus in the opening scene, it turns your head and leaves you no choice but to join in.

  • @jankysnowboarding7847
    @jankysnowboarding7847 2 года назад

    Lol moguls

  • @JeanaBeanaKG
    @JeanaBeanaKG 2 года назад

    "mecca" moguls 🤔

  • @JJ-bz9tk
    @JJ-bz9tk Год назад

    Not even one percent of all skiers can ski moguls And moguls are 60% of every mountain

  • @TJ_Burkeshire
    @TJ_Burkeshire 2 года назад +1

    Shitty skiers make shitty moguls, but good skiers ski shitty moguls with ease.

  • @chadrew6
    @chadrew6 Год назад

    Sorry, but Killington Vermont is the Mogul capital of the world

  • @markhuru
    @markhuru 2 месяца назад

    Mary ok, sun valley, telluride better,

  • @onlinewen
    @onlinewen 2 года назад

    Please wear helmet and be a good role model for young kids.

    • @Benzknees
      @Benzknees 2 года назад +1

      Why, helmets have no functional value & are only a comfort blanket for the nervous.

    • @FlimFlamvanHam
      @FlimFlamvanHam Год назад +2

      @@Benzknees not to mention another piece to sell to the masses. And make sure you replace it every five years as the manufacturers suggest because as we all well know, styrofoam deteriorates so quickly, right?

    • @Benzknees
      @Benzknees Год назад

      @@FlimFlamvanHam - I've read they 'need' replacing every 3-4yrs as UV degrades the polycarb shell & oxygen embrittles the EPP foam interior (as you say the same as old styrofoam does). It's a real money spinner!

    • @kevinray3240
      @kevinray3240 4 месяца назад

      Please don't have kids who disrespect personal responsibility and individual liberty. Helmets should be choices, not mandates.

  • @johns3106
    @johns3106 6 месяцев назад

    Wellll..If moguls were always this soft and well formed, it would be a lot more fun. Rock hard bumps with no rhythm to them just aren’t my idea of a good time…good technique builders, but fun?…Nah!

  • @anthonysears871
    @anthonysears871 2 года назад +1

    Stop all grooming! Everywhere!

  • @seano3432
    @seano3432 2 года назад +4

    Why is everyone hyped about two guys stuck in the back seat, going too fast. Let’s see some real skill.

    • @returnoftheturn3534
      @returnoftheturn3534  2 года назад +11

      Sean O, wanna ski some bumps?

    • @returnoftheturn3534
      @returnoftheturn3534  2 года назад +9

      what's your address? we will send you a sticker

    • @grizzkid795
      @grizzkid795 2 года назад +4

      They looked pretty balanced to me. Better than too slow.

    • @franklee6301
      @franklee6301 2 года назад +3

      With today's ski's that's all anyone does. Sit back and let the ski do the work. That's why I love bumps, they make it clear who can really rip. Ps, these guys are ripping.

    • @kristab8718
      @kristab8718 2 года назад +2

      I BELIEVE (the hype); This is the essence of balanced, dynamic, athletic, joyous, skiing! 🤩