Elegoo Saturn 3 Vs Saturn 3 Ultra - WATCH Before you Buy

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  • @FauxHammer
    @FauxHammer  Год назад +6

    Buy the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra here: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2351046&u=3060349&m=104244&urllink=&afftrack=
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  • @EonSloth
    @EonSloth 8 месяцев назад +8

    You've answered all my questions about this printer!
    I was actually going to get the Creality Mage S 14K printer, but after having to navigate for ages just to find the correct website and very little info about my more "newbie" questions I have changed my mind and will be getting the Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra.
    The only thing I now would love to see (if it doesn't already exist) is a highly detailed step by step guide/tutorial on everything you need to do and absolutely should do when unboxing your very first resin printer! Thanks for all your informative work, I'll continue researching to make sure I make the best choice for me and my printing needs!

  • @hazonku
    @hazonku Год назад +18

    VERY helpful video. Literally one of THE MOST comprehensive and straightforward printer comparison videos I've ever seen & I've been in this hobby for over half a decade now. Definitely earned my like & subscribe.

  • @krisd9506
    @krisd9506 Год назад +71

    Just got my Saturn 3 Ultra, was on my third calibration print and a part failure on the print head caused the print to fail and damaged the ACF. One of the little black rubber plugs in the hex screws that connect the mount to the print head came off and got crushed into the ACF by the print head. Highly recommend removing these. Their only purpose seems to be to discourage the user from undoing these screws instead of the leveling screws.

    • @killabytez
      @killabytez Год назад +5

      There is no print head on the Saturn. Do you mean the build plate?

    • @krisd9506
      @krisd9506 Год назад +4

      Yes, my bad.

    • @DJSoundStormTM
      @DJSoundStormTM Год назад

      Man had to ego check you 🤦🏻‍♂️ it’s obvious you meant the build plate no further explanation necessary mans just got a tiny pee pee and a big ego

  • @theleper42069
    @theleper42069 11 месяцев назад +3

    I'm returning my saturn 3 and getting an ultra based on this video. Thanks for the info dump, it was really helpful!

  • @nideininger
    @nideininger Год назад +4

    so happy i sent my m5 back and bought the ultra!
    bought an additional vat with normal fep too but before seeing your review on the ultra. now i keep it as an extra one and eager to test out what the printer is capable of!

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +4

      You’ll be happier when I release my M5 Vs M5s video

  • @wondermock
    @wondermock Год назад +2

    Just bought the Saturn 3 ultra based on your reviews. Thanks ❤

  • @christurner4799
    @christurner4799 Год назад +8

    I opted for the non Ultra version, which is $299 on Amazon, whereas the Ultra is still $480. For that extra $180, I didn't find the extras to be worth it for me. I'm looking forward to getting it in a few days and testing it out but I'm really grateful for your review!

    • @royalmazan4216
      @royalmazan4216 Год назад +1

      I'm eyeing one rn lol had to convince my girl that this is my new fond hobby 😅

    • @royalmazan4216
      @royalmazan4216 Год назад

      Let me know how is it. Buying a printer next paycheck, but still watching a bunch of videos before I bite the bullet

    • @S0u11ess
      @S0u11ess 10 месяцев назад +1

      Acf replacement sheets are also $40 more than pfa on Amazon, so price gap is really more like $220

  • @frostheave1960
    @frostheave1960 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @reddburg
    @reddburg 11 месяцев назад

    Good to know that the vats are compatible between these printers because the release films not only have different qualities, they are different sizes & prices. I plan to buy an Ultra soon & want to purchase the PFA based vat as a spare/alternative.

  • @dracosummoner
    @dracosummoner 10 месяцев назад

    Incredible review. Thank you so much! I've been wanting an Ultra for a while - I just don't have room to place it and a wash+cure station yet.

  • @EQ2Cordanim
    @EQ2Cordanim Год назад

    Just ordered my Ultra today with a $10 off coupon - this will be a nice upgrade from my orginal Saturn - thanks for the great comparison!!

  • @peterkiss1204
    @peterkiss1204 Год назад +16

    $100 for a better buld plate fixture, ball screw, capacitive touchscreen and wireless file transfer seems like a great deal.

  • @buildmotion1426
    @buildmotion1426 Год назад +2

    Thanks for this comparison. I'm replacing a Saturn S with a dead screen that is glued in place and wish to upgrade. The Ultra seems like a natural progression for a reasonable price.

  • @MartinBjerre
    @MartinBjerre Год назад +1

    I must say that I’ve been thinking a lot about which one to choose, this video helped me to decide, so thanks for doing the comparison 👍🏻🔥

  • @TrepidDestiny
    @TrepidDestiny Год назад +4

    I value detail, reliability, and build size for my printers. There are a lot of projects I want to do right now, but sadly don't own a big printer.
    I would buy the Saturn 3 Ultra, but cannot justify purchasing it, nor do I have room for it. So I'm stuck with a Mars 2 Pro for the time being. I have loved my time with the Mars 2 Pro, but man, I cannot seem to get rid of egregious voxel lines on that mofo.

  • @andremoonen
    @andremoonen 10 месяцев назад

    Based on this comparison video I choose the Ultra, thank you for such an indepth video!

  • @GrumpyOleMarine
    @GrumpyOleMarine Год назад

    I've been looking into getting into Resin printing for some time now. I am in the middle of building a Voron and want a resin printer to compliment it. You've made a comprehensive video for me to choose the Ultra to be my first Resin printer. Thank you.

    • @KillyBones
      @KillyBones 5 месяцев назад

      How are you finding the Saturn 3 ? I am also thinking about taking the plunge and getting the Saturn 3 as my first printer

  • @PewpewFiah
    @PewpewFiah Год назад +2

    My Ultra literally just arrived this morning, so I'm delighted! Shall be interested to see how my ACF compares to yours with the Dredge prints as I have the STLs myself

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +2

      If you wanna do them at 75mm, just scale the parts up 234%

    • @mr_pinecone2570
      @mr_pinecone2570 Год назад +1

      How did it turn out

  • @julianopolito
    @julianopolito Год назад

    I found a Saturn 3 ultra available in good price. Thank you for the reviews. I almost got m5s but changed my mind and insisted on looking for the Saturn. It will take a couple months but I think it will be worth it and a great upgrade for my mono X. Thanks again, Ross

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +3

      Glad I could help - and good call!

  • @pizzanik
    @pizzanik 7 месяцев назад +1

    Hail Reaper! Just saw you were listening to morning star in the background!

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  7 месяцев назад

      Hail Libertas! Good spot!

  • @michaelrobinson5179
    @michaelrobinson5179 Год назад +1

    We bought the ultra on presale. So far it has been a great printer. We wanted a larger printer but I liked that this printer has a Linux os and premium features.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Yeah it really hits a sweet spot

    • @petercallison5765
      @petercallison5765 Год назад

      I did not know about the Linux OS, I believe the Creality Halot range uses Linux (at least the first Halot did).

  • @philmcg7701
    @philmcg7701 Год назад

    Thanks for another great review. I am going to be getting rid of the original Mars and Saturn printers for a Saturn 3 Ultra. Thanks for all of the time you spend giving real world examples and solutions to possible issues.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Good choice! i am happy to help

  • @ryantotman5723
    @ryantotman5723 Месяц назад

    I got the ultra and did exactly as he said having 2 print beds with different films. Using my ACF film for printing miniatures of dnd and such with lower speed settings. While using the print beds with PFA film for terrain and such where I’m not as concerned with quality for higher print speed.

  • @aegisblack699
    @aegisblack699 Год назад +1

    I bought the Saturn 3 Ultra 12k based on your review👍🏻

  • @benkonczal4584
    @benkonczal4584 Год назад +1

    I’m actually just watching this video because I think your content it great. I have and love my Uniformation GKtwo.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Thanks so much for helping out

  • @nahucirujano
    @nahucirujano 9 дней назад

    New at this channel. Thank you so much for these amazing reviews.
    Do you consider the 3 ultra is still wort it right now in 2025? The 4 and 4 ultra are beyond my budget.
    I aim to print action/anime figures.

  • @popilirol
    @popilirol 7 месяцев назад +3

    I managed to spend some 4-5 hours reviewing 50% of your videos about 3D resin printers because I need to make up my mind and get my hands on one. After some ups and downs in each model, I believe I will choose the Saturn 3 Ultra for its accuracy. I will replace the ACF with PFA to get better details as you last hinted out. Thanks for your videos as I appreciate your efforts made to clarify our minds. I was about to get the Anycubic Mono M5S for the budget, but then after your review, I changed my mind in favor of Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra. I hope my choice is worth this decision.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  7 месяцев назад

      Good decision, I completely agree with your deduction, however, please consider the Saturn 4 for a similar price. My saturn 4 review is not our yet. but like the saturn 3 differences it;s basically the ultra with a much sippler UI.

  • @luxferre5546
    @luxferre5546 Год назад +4

    I am not sure if this is still a thing but as I bought my Anycubic Photon Mono it was said that the lifespan of the lightsource would be around 2,000 hours. But Fresnel-lenses have a lifespan of 20,000 hours. For me this was always one of the main arguments for the Elegoo Saturn. I don`t know if is still a thing because nowadays I can`t find any information about the lifespan of the LCDs but for me it is still the best argument against the Anycubic M5s.
    Maybe I am mixing things up with the LCD screen.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +5

      That's a mix up. So LCDs will havecablifespannif 2,000 hours. DLPprinters last 20,000 hours

  • @thorhammer6040
    @thorhammer6040 Год назад

    Hello, I'm new to printing and have loads of questions. 1) What is the air filters for? 2) Do you fill the tank to print, and if so, how do you keep it off the build plate, or does it pump resin in automatically to maintain a certain level? 3) Will the printer stop / pause if it runs low on resin? Any information would be helpful.

  • @dreckschleuder_official7966
    @dreckschleuder_official7966 Год назад +1

    Thanks for your work here!
    I will do an upgrade. My old Photon Mono (2k) has to go. (Bye bye voxels).The print quality seems to be identical between 3 and Ultra. I think I‘ll go with the 3 because I don‘t care about wifi and speed.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      It's a little better on the Saturn 2 out if the box. Good call

    • @Zimmerwolf
      @Zimmerwolf Год назад +1

      The 3 non Ultra will get you along nicely as the print quality is comparable. Let‘s be honest (i can only speak for myself), nobody can tell you what ist coming around the corner in maybe 2 years. Then the upgrading-game starts all over again. Just don‘t go crazy about it.

  • @kendallbein5616
    @kendallbein5616 Год назад +8

    I can’t paint fast enough to make speed worth it. Even on mass produced models.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +3

      Same

    • @BlazingBlazer1
      @BlazingBlazer1 Год назад +4

      I agree, speed really isnt an issue for me on resin printing.
      Fdm printers on the other hand greatly benefit from speed

  • @Hooverdreng
    @Hooverdreng Год назад +5

    I have the 3 sitting in my print closet right now. At the speed I am painting miniatures, print speed is of absolutely no concern. The other differences are also not really important to me. The air filters seem unimportant as the main problem I have with fumes is coming when washing the prints in alcohol.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +4

      I hear you. If you’re happy with the 3 then that is the best for you. And you saved $100

    • @Hooverdreng
      @Hooverdreng Год назад +6

      @@FauxHammer Well the 100 just turned into more resin 😅

    • @fabinhum
      @fabinhum Год назад

      Penso eu que a velocidade influencia sim no seu bolso. Pois se ela imprime mais veloz, teoricamente teria mais impressões devido a vida útil do LCD

  • @mageKnightz
    @mageKnightz 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing video. I really wanted to use your affiliated link to purchase mine - but since I'm in the EU, once I changed the location, it seems that reference link was lost since I was redirected to another website and had to choose the product again. So maybe in the future have two separate links, one for US and the other for EU?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  11 месяцев назад

      Which link did you click? they should all work? onl;y reason you are directed to a different site is VON stuff

  • @greshlaing6476
    @greshlaing6476 11 месяцев назад +1

    New to this but about to buy.
    Is it possible to print in black?

  • @HavasiP
    @HavasiP Год назад +1

    Going to be very interesting when you do change to a new ACF sheet.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Yeah, I'm genuinely scared. I've seen reports from people echoing my results and some others saying they have lines. I suppose it's good to know that you can just replace ACF with NFEP.

  • @HeroOfTheWeb
    @HeroOfTheWeb 11 месяцев назад

    11:05 the one on the right looks significantly better to me. I have a roll of nfep from mcmaster carr, I may just buy a 2nd vat and test it out. Of course I still have to finish the video and then watch your other video about ACF, but that point in time I reference is a huge win for nfep to me. I may come back and edit this after the videos.

  • @dendave7692
    @dendave7692 Год назад

    Thanks for the information!Which one is the best just for jewelry with high quality?
    And do i need to swap the PFA?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      Both are the same when you swap to PFA

  • @ionutz89ful
    @ionutz89ful Год назад

    I will take the ultra, because I can take as you said a spare, I will buy it now, thanks

  • @GraphixJunkie
    @GraphixJunkie Год назад

    Instant like. I really appreciate your content!

  • @classa21
    @classa21 Год назад

    I got a package with the ultra and the Mercury X wash and cure station for $620. Even if I don't use all the features I'll use the wireless and I'm willing to pay extra for the metal over the plastic.

  • @jm81013
    @jm81013 Год назад +2

    Great video! When will the Wargamer resin be available in the US?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Sorry we are working on this. Trying to do it ASAP

  • @S0u11ess
    @S0u11ess 10 месяцев назад

    I got the saturn 3 non ultra, happy with my choice. Only thing i wish i had was wifi, usb stick is a minor pita. My bed stays perfectly level with the ball screw. I can print so fast i could nwver hope to keep up with painting my minis. Also acf costs 3-4x more than pfa, so factor that into price gap since it will inevitably need to be changed

  • @GodFinger
    @GodFinger Год назад

    Acf is super fast!! I ues ultra for 1 month. And now lift 2/1mm lift speed 500/2000 mm/m .especially Hardsurface model printing is really good quality and fast. Acf also reduces the Effects of Vacuum.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      I’m not sure you can get 500mm/m out of either? I know that 600mm/m was no faster than 400mm/m when I set it…

  • @SebastianRamirezH
    @SebastianRamirezH Год назад

    thanks for your videos! I am planning to buy one elegoo printer, but after seeing your mars 4 utltra and this video, I do not know if keep my choice or buy the saturn 3 ultra. I need the better detail possible, what do you suggest? In other reviews you did, I think you try to mention that the saturn 3 ultra is better than the mars 4 ultra. Thanks for your attention.

  • @InterstellarModeler
    @InterstellarModeler 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this review. I currently have a Saturn 2 8K and have been satisfied with it but would be nice to have even better quality prints. Is it worth upgrading to the Ultra 3 at this point? I know there's always something new waiting around the corner so it has me wondering if I should wait. Btwn this and the Anycubic M5, do you favor one over the other? I'll watch your video on that next.

  • @PandorasReachAM
    @PandorasReachAM 9 месяцев назад

    I've been thinking about getting into 3D printing my own dragon figures for a while now, but I'm still confused on what I should be looking for in a printer, I don't really want tiny tiny prints more or less 1/12th to 1/8th scale figures. I'm still really new to this and haven't bought a printer before, I'm not gonna be getting the printer for a while and I'll definitely wait until the dragons are modeled, but should I go with the ultra? Or wait until the saturn 4 comes out?

  • @SgtHouse
    @SgtHouse Год назад

    A great review and thank you!

  • @RaspberryBrigade
    @RaspberryBrigade 8 месяцев назад

    Have you tried with a different ACF from Elegoo yet, or are you still using the same one? Interested if it was truly just luck or what

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  8 месяцев назад

      I never did, but I’ve seen enough comments saying they had the lines and others saying they didn’t that I have inferred it was luck

  • @sinkablecheese2693
    @sinkablecheese2693 Год назад +1

    I know I am a bit late to this video, but do you think the rectangular pixels in the printers have anything to do with the better quality you are seeing from the acf

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Nope, none at all. I have tested several printers with this same screen and they all expose differently

  • @juanmanuelvergel6999
    @juanmanuelvergel6999 Год назад +1

    Hello, I still have doubts about which model to buy. In my case the priority is the quality of the print rather than the speed, it would be to print small pieces of jewelry. Which of the two models do you recommend?

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero Год назад +2

    Does that actually work correctly, change the ACF for a PFA sheet on the vat?
    I am thinking about buying my first 3d printer, so I am completely new.
    I didn't know that the sheets were separated from the vat, I thought it was all one unit.
    Can you then buy an extra vat and have both, working with the same settings, or do you have to adjust it?
    I really do not care much about speed, but I like all the other features of the saturn 3 ultra, so I was thinking about just getting the clear PFA, if that gives me the same quality as the saturn 3 12k.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +2

      yeah it works. and yeah the Release film is a consumable, you will need to change them semi-frequently. A lot of people do buy the extra vat and have one for fast prints and one for detailed prints. but you need to relevel each time.

    • @JackDespero
      @JackDespero Год назад +2

      @@FauxHammer Fantastic to know. I thought that maybe the light collimation or something was different to take into account the frosty effect, and that would render the other type irrelevant.
      I think I have made up my mind and I will expend the extra cash for the saturn 3 ultra, since it seems to be both more flexible and has more future proof features.

  • @enricobononi8655
    @enricobononi8655 Год назад +1

    any update on the ACF? can you just change it and let us know? or change it on a different vat so we can see if you were lucky or if the ACF from Elegoo is actually working

  • @jrok96
    @jrok96 Год назад

    Got one of these ultras coming for Christmas! .can u guys recommend both a best resin and affordable /budget resin for printing miniatures? This will be my first resin printer also do I need curing and rinsing equipment ?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      I have my own resin Wargamer, Links in the description.
      I haven't tested enough resins to confirm the best among all of them, so I made my own

    • @rye42687
      @rye42687 Год назад

      is that linked resin in the description the one with the crazy flex at 14:47? @@FauxHammer
      I'm literally about to pull the trigger on the ultra with your link. Thanks for all the hard work with these reviews. I'm excited to upgrade from an OG anycubic photon with a 2k display

  • @pablofiasco2
    @pablofiasco2 Год назад

    man, those Dredge models, im blown away every time i see them. Thank you again for another Vs review, i really need to get off my rear and raise some funds, anyone have any advice for selling 40k bits? ive got LOADS, and have been tempted to either sell just, one Giant tub, or divide into gallon bags or...i dont even know

  • @uniteallaction
    @uniteallaction Год назад

    So would it be worthwhile upgrading to the Saturn 3 Ultra if you were considering buying the Mars 4 Ultra?

  • @pittrbm9097
    @pittrbm9097 Год назад +1

    There is no Fresnel lens and the light doesn't get collimated in the Ultra.
    Without Fresnel lens, prints near screen edges will expand slightly (little to no difference near the center) but unnoticeable in most case.
    They probably meant "Reflective" light source since they used a mirror to reduce light spread but would still be better if they put Fresnel lens too.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Well the prints are no t noticeable different from it, so whatever they did works.
      I’ve learned more about the collimating source and it seems more evenly spread.
      Almost like a blank DLP projector in a way.

  • @dekyras
    @dekyras Год назад

    Good review, just a pity that Elegoo customer service was so poor.

  • @cgrosbeck
    @cgrosbeck 9 месяцев назад

    ACF the size of the peeks and valleys are critical, and the design to get the proper texture is going to very from manufacture to manufacture. Also lot to lot may have been run on a difrent machine or tooling, not sure how much quality control is looking at when a new tool is commissioned into a machine! So looking for a quality ACF provider will be difficult!

  • @blaze556922
    @blaze556922 Год назад +1

    Final question and thank you for responding to the others I've had over the last few days. Decided this is the one for me and am curious about resin. Do I need the rapid resin for this to work faster or does it deliver faster speed regardless of which resin you choose? I'd like to use plant based for smell purposes but I might not have to since this has the filters built in. What would you choose?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +4

      Well that’s the million dollar question. Which resin?!
      Well….
      No, this won’t print faster regardless. You will need to understand how these work to know what makes a faster print. Things like layer height abd lift speed are the main ones. Fast resins sometimes means faster curing, sometimes it means faster lift speed, sometimes both. Sometimes neither and the brand just wanted to call it “fast”. You’d be best speaking to people in a community group for resin advice
      Plant based is typically crap to work with and causes more issues as it can be finicky. Just like most water wash Ames
      Cheap resins can stink a bit more. But so can some expensive ones. but the carbon filters deal with most smells from smelly resins.
      So sorry. Welcome to “what is the best resin for me?”
      You’ll need to ask around and play with some yourself. It’s why I wanted my own so at least then I know what it does and I can recommend it around

  • @deantolliverstudios1360
    @deantolliverstudios1360 Год назад +2

    Do you plan to change or use a different ACF to test your theory? I got screwed over by Elegoo on the original Sat and returned an S2 for poor print quality but this one (Ultra) really has my interest.

    • @deantolliverstudios1360
      @deantolliverstudios1360 Год назад

      One more question - I'm curious about your resin. Any plans for a flesh tone or US distribution?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +4

      I’ll only change it when it needs changing. But I have asked Elegoo directly, what the difference is.
      As fir resin. No plans to do any other colours, but we are looking to bring it to the US asap

    • @cuzzman01
      @cuzzman01 Год назад

      Did Elegoo get back to you?@@FauxHammer

  • @Breto151
    @Breto151 Год назад +8

    I have been thinking about getting one of these since I first saw the spec sheets on them. Most of what I will probably print will not need to be super detailed but what I am interested in is the GOO format being open source and the Ultra having a linux motherboard. I know the GOO format is not perfect yet but i'm sure that will improve with time and my hope is that this will make it's way into something like PrusaSlicer so I don't have to deal with Chitubox licensing.

  • @julianthomas2742
    @julianthomas2742 Год назад

    I print mostly large scale, presupported models from Wicked and Nom Nom studios, would you recommend this or the gktwo?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      in terms of print quality, it probably doesn't matter, go with the feature you want

  • @franzkuchling5696
    @franzkuchling5696 Год назад

    Hi, thanks for the great review! I have a question: when you compare both printers with the FEP screens installed in each, the Saturn 3 seems to have more fine lines on the bottom of the test print, while the Ultra seems to have more print depth (hence perhaps higher contrast?), is that an accurate observation? Which of the two would you give the crown purely in terms of better contrast and resolution printing with fep screens?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      Those line sare so thin that once I put these tests through a cleaner, sometimes they tear off sometimes they are ok, usually if I've left it in a bit long or if other parts knock into them mid clean. Don't read too much into it, but I understand I''ve not shown it as best as I could have
      With FEP, there's no discernible difference

  • @polaco1243
    @polaco1243 Год назад +1

    So far my decision was the M5S just for the autoleveling... considering the same specs on the screen and just quality print... now i don´t know which one... a tip?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +2

      Ultra, Easily. I have a comparison video coming out. I don;t like to persuade people in reviews as I prefer they make their own mind up as tto what is best for thgem. But the spec alone and the print quality and build quality along with actually useful features is so much more on the Ultra vs the M5s it;s an easy win

    • @polaco1243
      @polaco1243 Год назад

      @@FauxHammer Thanks for the tip!
      Greetings from Chile

    • @NikkiAnnMarie
      @NikkiAnnMarie Год назад +2

      To add another point, autolevelling is a complete gimmick anyway in my opinion - it takes maybe 20 minutes max to level a resin printer if it's your first time doing it, and once you set it correctly you don't need to level it again unless you really knock the build plate somehow. Plus, it's more parts that can go wrong on the printer, which is never a good thing!

    • @AutoPhoenix-r8q
      @AutoPhoenix-r8q Год назад

      ​@@NikkiAnnMarie I agree the autoleveling is of only initial benefit. The ques for me in terms of long term usefulness, is the failure detection capability. That could really add up over time.

    • @NikkiAnnMarie
      @NikkiAnnMarie Год назад

      ​@@AutoPhoenix-r8q Yeah I agree - force detection IS really useful, but its implementation is poor by Anycubic imo. The Athena sensor is really leading the way with that technology.

  • @komix0
    @komix0 Год назад

    I planned to buy Saturn 3 Ultra this morning after your previous video, and then I saw this video incoming. I will wait until it is published but I wonder if you are still ok with its ACF?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      I am ok with this ACF but I'm still saying that trioeciously becasue I have seen others report similar results to all other ACF films. I;ve trioed this resin with ACF on another printer and All I can assume here is that I got lucky. Elegoo have confirmed that the same ACF was used in the Mars 4 and Saturn 3

  • @CrashnServers
    @CrashnServers Год назад

    My mistake was buying a fast printer for my 1st one. I was so use to 10 minute Cones of Calibration that when I switched to a different resin I couldn't believe it was going to take over an hour each to dial it in. 🤦‍♂

  • @AutoPhoenix-r8q
    @AutoPhoenix-r8q Год назад +1

    I can't find any videos or reviews anywhere specifically comparing the different light source technologies. The printers with the COB collimating fresnel lenses and the refractive setups seem to infer they are better than the matrix arrays. This would also be indicated by the fact that they switch to it on the "Ultra" or premium printers. But most printers, including the consistent #1 favorite on just about anyone's top ten list, the GK Two, use the matrix panels. Is there really a difference? In quality or lifespan? Can this be measured? I would really like some in depth investigation of this. Thx.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      This is my first experience with Collimating, and when I did this and the review video, I didn't fully understand what it was. I'm still trying to understand the technology, but this video will show you the result difference.

  • @smudgepost
    @smudgepost 7 месяцев назад

    @FauxHammer from your last Saturn 3 demo, does the ultra address the 4Gb file size issue and truncated file issues and failed prints? TIA

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  7 месяцев назад +1

      No. and I'm about to talk about this on my Saturn 4 review.

    • @smudgepost
      @smudgepost 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@FauxHammermany thanks, look forward to seeing it

  • @CarolinaCat843
    @CarolinaCat843 Год назад

    Where can i find a PFA screen for the Saturn 3 Ultra?
    Or does a PFA film for the Saturn work on the Saturn 3 Ultra?

  • @Schyzofrenic87
    @Schyzofrenic87 Год назад

    i've got a mars 3 and love it , just the issue that some armor models don't fit on the plate unless you put them in some real cirque de solei poses , so thinking of upgrading to a saturn 3

  • @FelipeAsprillaO
    @FelipeAsprillaO 7 месяцев назад

    Now after 4 years printing with resin, I discover there are 3 films: ACF, PFA and FEP. ACF is on the ultra models, interesting.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah ACF is unloved and the new ultra killed it.
      Just to confuse you more , some companies call PFA “NFEP” And Creality call their SCF film Picta or somma stupid. Because they know if they say act, people will hate it.

  • @tanpa11
    @tanpa11 Год назад +1

    for me the 4-point mount is worth getting it over the ball mount.
    How fast has you pushed your Saturn 3 ultra in term of printing speed with the ACF film and normal resin? Is it faster than the normal Saturn 3?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      Well, the resin itself could be your bottleneck. So as I explained. If however fast your “normal” resin prints. Add 30%
      If you are able to max out the speed of your current printer with that “normal” resin. Then you may be able to get much more with a Saturn 3 ultra.
      The Saturn 3 ultra itself is more than twice as fast as the Saturn 3z
      But that doesn’t mean all resins will print that fast.

  • @d-not-u
    @d-not-u Год назад +3

    Ultra wins hands down ✋😎🤚

  • @3dtexan890
    @3dtexan890 Месяц назад

    I thought that when you level the build plate you do it WITHOUT the vat in place?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Месяц назад

      You are meant to based on the guides. But considering the point of the paper is to simulate the gap of the release film. Why not just use the release film.
      This works.

  • @Mani_spielt
    @Mani_spielt 11 месяцев назад

    I need ur help guys. I wanna to buy my first 3d printer. Should i buy the 3 ultra or 3 12k?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  11 месяцев назад

      Whichever you can afford, one is better than the other but is WiFi worth the extra hundred to you?

  • @ricardopires4713
    @ricardopires4713 Год назад

    So if i understand correct if i dont care about wifi or metal case on the printer i can buy the Saturn 3 and use acf to have quick prints right?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      pretty much yeah. the Z-rail onthe ultra is a bit smoother due to the Lead screw,

  • @sameerh.mohamed7913
    @sameerh.mohamed7913 Год назад

    i'm looking to buy the ultra for jewellery business soon

  • @trentenian
    @trentenian 11 месяцев назад

    So, was your AFC screen a fluke, or is the Ultra AFC legit?

  • @knowyourjoe8826
    @knowyourjoe8826 Год назад

    So Elegoo Saturn 3 Ultra or Uniformation GKTwo? Where does this rank on your list? What printer do you recommend for someone starting out, one of these or a different one? Thanks.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      www.fauxhammer.com/top-10/the-best-3d-printer-for-miniatures-models/
      Any printer is a good beginner printer, the more expensive ones are often Easier. but I think the Mars 4 Max is a decent enough starting model. unless you can get a cheap Saturn 2

  • @PatchGuilf
    @PatchGuilf 5 месяцев назад

    Anyone put a regular PFA in the Ultra to get rid of the soft edged prints? How would it effect the reain settings and timings?

  • @SH-cd3xe
    @SH-cd3xe Год назад

    I think it will be the ultra just because leveling system and the ballbar screw... Du you test how much influence has room temperature on the print?

  • @pratikghodasara7018
    @pratikghodasara7018 Год назад +1

    When you compared the exposure test with pfa films at 10:55 the non ultra looks like it printed negligibly sharper. I thought that with the same films results would be same. Any ideas what could have caused that?

    • @pratikghodasara7018
      @pratikghodasara7018 Год назад +1

      Sorry if it sounds like a noob questions but everything I know about resin printer is from watching your videos, still deciding whether to get the Saturn 3 ultra as my first printer

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      no, good question and I should ahve explained better. those raised lines are so fine that sometimes they come off when cleaning the print, sometimes not. they are close enough that I'd say this is the same result.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +2

      and yes, you should get teh Saturn 3 Ultra. It;s an amazing printer!

    • @pratikghodasara7018
      @pratikghodasara7018 Год назад

      @@FauxHammer ah I see, that makes sense

    • @xXKisskerXx
      @xXKisskerXx Год назад

      to be honest a 'negligable' difference isn't something I'd worry about - it might not be repeatable. It could be a variety of things, Resin, Resin Temperatures, Wear on the machine, was the machine 'pre warmed' up with a print beforehand, etc. Until you can get a significant difference in detail - I just don't see the point in focusing on something so marginally small that it isn't even a +/- 5% difference on scales.

  • @marblemolly2454
    @marblemolly2454 Год назад

    Strange that in the 4 model shootout with the AnyCubics, The Saturn 3 came out ahead of the Ultra.

  • @marchermitte
    @marchermitte Год назад

    Hello! I'm making reconstitutions of insects for museums and i'm wondering whether I should update my old sonic 4k for the phrozen sonic 8k (upgraded to the 12 k version?), the phrozen mighty 8k, which offers almost the same resolution with a larger print volume (some insects are tiny but some reach 20 cm) or the Elegoo Saturn 3 / 3 Ultra? For larger builds I own the SOnic Mega 8k.
    COuld you share your thoughts? Thank you.
    BTW, great videos with great objectivity in your advices or opinion.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      Thanks a ton. I don’t see the value difference between the Mighty 8k with 12k upgrade. And the Saturn 3, yet print results look the same

    • @marchermitte
      @marchermitte Год назад

      Great. So moneywise, Saturn 3 or 3 Ultra is a better choice.
      Thank you!

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      @@marchermitteSaturn 3 Ultra is my pick, but replace the ACF film with PFA

    • @marchermitte
      @marchermitte Год назад

      Thank you, I've seen you video on the AC film, I'll follow your advice.

  • @julianopolito
    @julianopolito Год назад

    About the leveling plate, in the ultra does it already come with a four screw system or is it available as replacement?

  • @yaokar244
    @yaokar244 Год назад

    Saturn3 12k or anycubic mono x 6k s? 👀

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      Saturn 3, This is an easy one. I honestly don't understand why the x 6k S was compared to it. But if you have a reason, please fill me in so I can offer better advice.

    • @yaokar244
      @yaokar244 Год назад

      @@FauxHammer thanks! I was deciding between both.., in my country I found them at the same price 😅

  • @Abraham-x6n
    @Abraham-x6n Год назад

    at 7:28 you explain the ACF film, so, is normal in the film to be frosted?, because I just got my saturn 3 ultra and in the first test, the film past from clear to frosty, and I was scared it could be a disaster, was my fault, and maybe I need to return my printer.

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      It turned from clear to frosty? Please tell me you took the protective layer off?
      Sorry, I’ve no other idea how that could happen?

    • @Abraham-x6n
      @Abraham-x6n Год назад

      @@FauxHammer yes I did, double check before I use, that is not supposed to happen?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      @@Abraham-x6n it’s not suppose to turn from clear to frosty no. It should be frosty when you get it. After printing you will see some scars on the film, but the film itself must always be frosty somewhat

    • @Abraham-x6n
      @Abraham-x6n Год назад

      @@FauxHammer that's weird, looking at it there's no sign of damage, the surface of the film is evenly frost, the screen is ok, everything looks good.

    • @Abraham-x6n
      @Abraham-x6n Год назад

      @@FauxHammer Im going to do a second test, just to make sure.

  • @walperstyle
    @walperstyle Год назад

    Are you curing your prints?

  • @jonkendrick89
    @jonkendrick89 Год назад

    13:28
    THIS. EVERYTHING ELSE IS SUBJECTIVE BUT THE SECOND USB IS A PROPHECY!
    We will see heaters in the future. Yes, right now they would cause artifacts with their constant on and off but THATS THE ONLY PROBLEM to rectify. I will even build my own if I have too.

  • @shaunanders9083
    @shaunanders9083 5 месяцев назад

    Still really confused in witch printer to buy ngl I'm going from a fdm printer to resin and trying to make a smart choice was looking at the Saturn 3 but there like £100 difference between that an the ultra and honestly cannot make a choice even watching this video looked at most of elegoos printers and still feel clueless, I'll mainly be using it as I do Warhammer for mods and terrain peaces for my wargaming hobby if you could help alittle more to help that'll be great thanks

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  5 месяцев назад

      Saturn 4 ultra is now the best choice…
      Saturn 4 and 3 normal are better if you want to save some money, but you loose some features too

  • @ArtificerGoblin
    @ArtificerGoblin Год назад

    Oh, man. This is exciting!

  • @luivega4880
    @luivega4880 Год назад

    Hi, just out of curiosity, can the 3 ultra platter be mounted on the 3?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      it can't no. they are different mechanisms

  • @FuriousPenguinArt
    @FuriousPenguinArt Год назад

    so i can be wrong here but i thnk the difference is , ACF has a shinny side and a fogged side, the fogged side is supposed to face down towards the lcd

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      You are completely correct here.

  • @guillaumevanoost811
    @guillaumevanoost811 Год назад

    Hi ! I havn’t seen the video but I have to decide quickly if I cancel my saturn 3 order for an ultra. I intend to only use FEP and I would not use Wifi. I care about print quality, not much print speed. What would you suggest ? Thanks

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      There's no huge difference in print qualitty between them, they are pretty much the same printer.

    • @guillaumevanoost811
      @guillaumevanoost811 Год назад

      @@FauxHammer I didn't know if the new source light have an influence on quality, so thank you very much for your answer :)

  • @Emtbtoday
    @Emtbtoday Год назад

    I'm actually just scared as with the m5 and m5s the m5 is the one I should have gone for as now the m5s auto bed levelling is malfunctioning on everyone's and we're "supposed to be getting these v2 build plates" believe it when I see mine! It's all ongoing there's a massive queue before me the technicians have to get through.
    The fact the same thing here with elegoo but honestly I really can't see there being an issue with the ultra they done the right thing.and stuck with manual bed levelling! Tbh I actually miss having this on m5s you feel more in control and your able to easily fix it! I absolutely love my saturn 2 8k it's just such a pleasure to work with and it just works! Once dialed in correctly you can throw anything through it and you know it'll just print it no problem!

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      next weeks video is M5's Vs Saturn 3's. will be up tomorrow for members.

  • @RYTHMICRIOT
    @RYTHMICRIOT Год назад

    I'm trying to get an idea what's a good starter machine for resin printing. I started with an Ender 3v2, then a few weeks ago I bought a Bambu Lab P1S because I wanted a bigger build volume. I now think I have my larger part basis covered, and now think resin is the next logical step. What's a good starter printer for resin?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад +1

      Depends what youc an afforde, since you donve in with a P1S, it sounds like you have some money available
      Saturn 3 Ultra or the Uniformation GKTWO are the top picks for me.
      But you could also go with something more basic, llike a Staurn 2 or Saturn 8k?
      i have vids on themnall and a summary video of all options coming soon.

    • @RYTHMICRIOT
      @RYTHMICRIOT Год назад

      @FauxHammer thank you, I appreciate you taking the time and providing your input

  • @PoodlesWithGuns
    @PoodlesWithGuns 10 месяцев назад

    Can you put the Ultra build plate in a regular Saturn 3?

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  10 месяцев назад

      unfortunately not

  • @Tenebrius1963
    @Tenebrius1963 Год назад

    You lost me when you're talking about swapping the ACF film for a PFA sheet... WHAT the heck does that all mean and how does it work? Thank you :-)

    • @FauxHammer
      @FauxHammer  Год назад

      This will make more sense when watching the individual reviews

  • @bR44Nor
    @bR44Nor Год назад

    Would a build plate from Sat 3 Ultra fit Sat 3? If the two-point leveling system on Sat 3 is an issue.. a purchase of four-point build plate from sat 3 ultra could me a solution, am I right?