We're glad you liked it and found it informative! You can find good gauge tools at any of these sites: www.ngp.com/product-detail/?productId=5009&catId=15&subcategory1Id=0 or www.doorgapgauge.com/how.htm Thanks!
Hi, Danielle, Thank you for reaching out. We offer fire door inspection for commercial facilities. If yours is a commercial project, please do contact us! cih-inc.com/contact-us
As a door installer; I feel the most important thing not mentioned; is that actually a required to have a rated opening? I see rated/labeled doors/frames installed none rated assemblies all the time. First question I would ask when I noticed no evidence of a closer ever on the door and frame. When doing fire door assembly inspections, it's important to know what doors are actually required to be rated and what is the required rating.
Hi Chris, thank you for taking the time to check out our instruction video! To understand what doors are rated, you first need to know what walls are rated. So, obtaining drawings showing the wall ratings along with a life safety plan is fundamental before doing a fire door inspection. It is not safe to assume that the existing hardware, or lack thereof, determines the rating and requirements. This video intends to showcase and educate people about what a fire door inspection looks like after the above-mentioned due diligence.
@@cihaptura Exactly, explained it better that I did! Just because a door has a label doesn't always mean that it's a required rated opening. Not as common but I've seen rated assemblies that don't have labels on the doors/frames. During the door shortage, we were installing doors with 45 & 60 min labels, wood and HM in frames and openings simply because they could get then quicker than a non rated/20 min door. (or so that was the factory "story" of the week) A lot of the hospitals we work in lack accurate drawings showing rated assemblies. Many of them were built before the IBC and NFPA so it becomes even more "complicated" for the folks doing the inspections and repairs. If you are all looking for something to do ;) I vote for a video on why a 1 hour wall doesn't require a 60 minute door. So many professionals seem to be confused by this.
Succinct but comprehensive!! QUESTION: Where can I find a fiber glass 45 minute rated fire door? Do 45 min fiber glass doors exist and are metal doors superior? Also after installing my doors how do I contact you for inspection? ty!!!
Glad you found it helpful! To answer your questions: Here are Fire Rated FRP doors we use special-lite.com/product/sl-17fr-frp-speclite-pebble-grainstainless-steel-door/ special-lite.com/product/af-200fr-formerly-fr-20-4560-90-smooth-fire-rated-fiberglass-door/ special-lite.com/product/af-219-1fr-contemporary-wood-grain-fire-door/ Generally speaking, the commercial FRP door is superior to standard hollow metal doors. Yes, after installation, we can do a fire door assembly inspection. You can visit our website and fill out the form: www.cih-inc.com/solutions/fire-door-inspection/ Thank you! CIH
Thank you for watching our video and your question. We used a gap gauge tool. National Guard Products (NGP) www.trudoor.com/ngp-national-guard/gap-gauge/ and The Door Gap Gauge doorgapgauge.com/ are a couple of good options.
You can find good gauge tools at any of these sites: www.ngp.com/product-detail/?productId=5009&catId=15&subcategory1Id=0 or www.doorgapgauge.com/how.htm Thanks!
We're glad you found our video informative, Mark. To answer your question: Color plugs are not used to ID fire doors. A metal label should be attached to the hinge edge of the door stating the fire rating and a number that can be traced back to the manufacturer.
Should every internal fire door have some sort of conformity/rating mark? I've just looked in my workplace and none of the fire doors have this (they are approx 8 years old).
Hi Anthony, thank you for watching our video. Here is an excerpt from an article on idighardware.com to answer you question: "If the building was built in accordance with the IBC and doors were required to have gasketing in order to limit air infiltration when tested in accordance with UL 1784, this gasketing should be present and intact when the fire door inspection is conducted. The 2015-2021 editions of the IBC require limited air infiltration and reference UL 1784 for the following locations: elevator lobby doors, doors in smoke barriers in underground buildings and I-3 occupancies (i.e. correctional centers, detention centers, jails, prerelease centers, prisons, and reformatories), and fire door assemblies in corridors and smoke barriers". Here is a link to the full article: idighardware.com/2021/08/qq-gasketing-requirements-of-nfpa-101-2/ You can also refer to this article for more information: idighardware.com/2021/07/decoded-smoke-door-requirements-of-the-ibc/ Thank you!
thanks guys, really helpful video and presented brilliantly
Thanks for watching, Phil. We're glad it was helpful to you!
I really liked this video, short but very informational!! Where did you get your gap gauge tool?
We're glad you liked it and found it informative! You can find good gauge tools at any of these sites: www.ngp.com/product-detail/?productId=5009&catId=15&subcategory1Id=0
or
www.doorgapgauge.com/how.htm
Thanks!
Very informative. When you have a fire door with two leaves is the gap between the two leaves still required to be 1/8 in?
@Sirpacc, glad you found it helpful. If it is a wood door yes, but if it is hollow metal, 1/8 +- 1/16.
Thanks!
Do y'all check all doors in the house
Hi, Danielle,
Thank you for reaching out. We offer fire door inspection for commercial facilities. If yours is a commercial project, please do contact us! cih-inc.com/contact-us
As a door installer; I feel the most important thing not mentioned; is that actually a required to have a rated opening? I see rated/labeled doors/frames installed none rated assemblies all the time. First question I would ask when I noticed no evidence of a closer ever on the door and frame. When doing fire door assembly inspections, it's important to know what doors are actually required to be rated and what is the required rating.
Hi Chris, thank you for taking the time to check out our instruction video! To understand what doors are rated, you first need to know what walls are rated. So, obtaining drawings showing the wall ratings along with a life safety plan is fundamental before doing a fire door inspection. It is not safe to assume that the existing hardware, or lack thereof, determines the rating and requirements. This video intends to showcase and educate people about what a fire door inspection looks like after the above-mentioned due diligence.
@@cihaptura Exactly, explained it better that I did! Just because a door has a label doesn't always mean that it's a required rated opening. Not as common but I've seen rated assemblies that don't have labels on the doors/frames. During the door shortage, we were installing doors with 45 & 60 min labels, wood and HM in frames and openings simply because they could get then quicker than a non rated/20 min door. (or so that was the factory "story" of the week) A lot of the hospitals we work in lack accurate drawings showing rated assemblies. Many of them were built before the IBC and NFPA so it becomes even more "complicated" for the folks doing the inspections and repairs. If you are all looking for something to do ;) I vote for a video on why a 1 hour wall doesn't require a 60 minute door. So many professionals seem to be confused by this.
Thanks for the thoughtful comment and content suggestion, Chris! We will look in to it :)
Thanks for video....could you please tell me where does it say that door signage should not be more than 5%.?
You're welcome @Streetlife. We're glad you liked the video! That information can be found in NFPA-80, 2014 edition.
Succinct but comprehensive!! QUESTION: Where can I find a fiber glass 45 minute rated fire door? Do 45 min fiber glass doors exist and are metal doors superior? Also after installing my doors how do I contact you for inspection? ty!!!
Glad you found it helpful! To answer your questions: Here are Fire Rated FRP doors we use special-lite.com/product/sl-17fr-frp-speclite-pebble-grainstainless-steel-door/ special-lite.com/product/af-200fr-formerly-fr-20-4560-90-smooth-fire-rated-fiberglass-door/ special-lite.com/product/af-219-1fr-contemporary-wood-grain-fire-door/
Generally speaking, the commercial FRP door is superior to standard hollow metal doors.
Yes, after installation, we can do a fire door assembly inspection. You can visit our website and fill out the form: www.cih-inc.com/solutions/fire-door-inspection/
Thank you!
CIH
Thanks
You're welcome Hani! Thanks for watching.
What tool did you use for the clearance?
Thank you for watching our video and your question. We used a gap gauge tool. National Guard Products (NGP) www.trudoor.com/ngp-national-guard/gap-gauge/ and The Door Gap Gauge doorgapgauge.com/ are a couple of good options.
What program are you using for your fire door inspection?
Hi Eric, we found a bug in the app we used during the video, so currently, we are only using PDFs and handwritten notes to gather data.
Where did you get your gap gage tool
I like that one, it's better than the one I have.
You can find good gauge tools at any of these sites: www.ngp.com/product-detail/?productId=5009&catId=15&subcategory1Id=0
or
www.doorgapgauge.com/how.htm
Thanks!
How long does it take to inspect a fire door and fill in paper work
Kevin, thank you for watching and the question. It can take from 15 to 30 minutes at the door for the inspection.
Very informative. Some doors have plugs that are color coded, are doors with wood color plugs rated or not? Where would I find the information?
We're glad you found our video informative, Mark. To answer your question: Color plugs are not used to ID fire doors. A metal label should be attached to the hinge edge of the door stating the fire rating and a number that can be traced back to the manufacturer.
Should every internal fire door have some sort of conformity/rating mark? I've just looked in my workplace and none of the fire doors have this (they are approx 8 years old).
no gasket? - as in no intumescent strip??? - it is NOT a fire door!!!
Hi Anthony, thank you for watching our video. Here is an excerpt from an article on idighardware.com to answer you question: "If the building was built in accordance with the IBC and doors were required to have gasketing in order to limit air infiltration when tested in accordance with UL 1784, this gasketing should be present and intact when the fire door inspection is conducted. The 2015-2021 editions of the IBC require limited air infiltration and reference UL 1784 for the following locations: elevator lobby doors, doors in smoke barriers in underground buildings and I-3 occupancies (i.e. correctional centers, detention centers, jails, prerelease centers, prisons, and reformatories), and fire door assemblies in corridors and smoke barriers". Here is a link to the full article: idighardware.com/2021/08/qq-gasketing-requirements-of-nfpa-101-2/
You can also refer to this article for more information: idighardware.com/2021/07/decoded-smoke-door-requirements-of-the-ibc/
Thank you!