Wait... Nickisnotgreen mass flagged Sneako for bullying? wtf? That guy was like the biggest douche when he reacted to one of my videos. Next someone's going to say that Ethanisonline is going to mass flag someone for making fun of his hairline.
Nah, she hasn’t watched the video at all. One of her friends did and gave her a rundown, which must’ve been the most inflammatory shit you could possibly think of.
"DO NOT ENGAGE" "DON'T GIVE HIM A SINGLE SECOND OF WATCH TIME OR AD REVENUE" "IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE READING THIS COMES ACROSS THIS VIDEO, -please- REPORT IT FOR CYBERBULLYING" -1984 gif
"Weak and thin skinned, soft and a grave. Fighting the fight for our junk food to save. We the Ily's will ceaselessly lie, To keep our great junk food supply in line. Please spam the video, don't look at the screen. Never before have such bitchery been seen! Ilynation! Ilynation! Tis for thee! Every deed, Every thought. Tis for thee!
Yes indeed. my content creator tells me to report a youtuber, so I do it without thinking what's next? People who are like this are stupid do they know that this content creator who hasn't even watched the video in the first place is telling there viewers not to watch the same video they never watched? What if this content creator told everyone to donate money to them becasue they said so? No? why is that becasue it's with money but with anything else people are sheep and just do it makes no sense. If you wont spend your money how others want you to then don't do things others tell you to do.
The funniest thing out of the drama is the part where she just straight up admit that she hasnt watch it and just casually ask her followers "hey lets mass report this guy even thought i havent watch it yet"
@@RedactedAnonymous10 I don't mean to be mean when I say this, but I think my comment just went straight over your head. Either that, or I'm misunderstanding your reply. I was pointing out that she doesn't seem like the type of person who ever WILL watch TBYS's video, at all. So when OP's comment faux-said from her perspective "hey let's mass report this guy even though I haven't watched it yet," I was pointing out that the word "yet" doesn't belong in that sentence. "even though I haven't watched it, period." The "yet" in OP's comment gives her far too much credit, in my opinion. She's never going to watch it at all, so there is no 'yet'. My 'point', if you will, is to make a character judgement of her. A negative one. She's not going to watch TBYS's video before, during, or after all this backlash. Because she can't stand criticism, justified or not, unless that criticism comes gift-wrapped in a box of ass-kissing and relentless complements with MAYBE ONE pushback. Again, if I had to guess. All of this is just armchair psycho-analysis, at the end of the day.
I am slightly overweight and I’m already working out to lose weight because I dread the health problems it brings me.There are *NO* perks of being fat.
there is actually but not as much as worth it. me being bone and skin man i get cold easily i cant handle freezing while fatness can keep you warm a bit more.
I lost so much respect for illymation my opinion went from “fun animator who has some not scientific beliefs about weight” to “another crybaby who can’t even do basic research before putting someones livelihood in danger” ironically enough she’s probably putting her own channel in danger by *checks notes* breaking community guidelines relating to harassment
even beyond youtube guidelines, she might honestly kill her channel simply by pushing casual viewers away by being so childish and dogmatic over something she claims to have not even properly watched. i've seen other comments of viewers of hers also exclaiming this opinion so by doubling down so hard she honestly may make things worse for her channel
@@whateverwhatever4026 admittedly I’ve only watched a few videos so my opinion wasn’t very informed but I don’t plan on going back and informing myself. I know enough to know I don’t want to support her
@@snapdragoon1236 That's more than fair actually. Normally I'd say you should give someone a fair shot, but Illy is a weird exception. Emphasis on weird. Get out before you see too much of the stupid....
@@whateverwhatever4026 agreed. I already think it’s stupid to try and cancel someone for “cyber bullying” bc it’s the internet you can literally just ignore the problem and 99% of the time it goes away, but to try and take someone’s income away while admitting that you didn’t even do your due diligence of watching the video before sending an ACTUAL harassment campaign against someone just shows me you abuse power and don’t deserve my views, likes, comment, etc. it’s the internet equivalent of lying about someone and sending a mob with torches to burn down their business. Just disgusting
It’s hilarious that one of her followers tried to discredit Think Before You Sleep by saying he’s like Jordan Peterson when Jordan Peterson is an actual psychologist..
It blows my mind how many people literally just dont understand Peterson's points and still hate on him anyways for his political stance. Thats IF people trash on him because Im pretty sure a majority avoid him since they know they'll lose the argument.
@@munkydreads with what proof when he doesn't at all nor is a doctor either also his advice are not even good advice, they are misrepresented and just him ignoring the issue.
@@munkydreads yet tbys is the one that can't read nor do research himself where he literally proves the ppl he is arguing to be right and he misreapecting his own sources🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Not only did she herself not watch the video, but she also told her fans to not watch the video so as not to let them form their own opinion. I saw a ''discussion'' about it on r/youtubedrama the newer comments are more rational, but god damn most of the comment section is the most ironic shit I have ever seen. Some are even making fun of his voice which is a thing you can't change unlike you know BEING A FATASS.
Omg stfu she said don't do it to harass him nor give him ad revenue. It isn't about forming their own opinions. Where u idoots never even saw her video at all. Stfu. She doesn't need to watch his slander hate video where he literally proves her point
Yea and this is why she said it was cyber bullying cus of people like you lmao. You are making fun of her and you claim it’s ironic when people do it to TBYS. You are a hypocrite💀💀
@@ballohallo You can change your voice with surgery. Though, it's invasive and most people wouldn't consider that normal to that type of problem. Plus, a lot of people can't afford that. But, almost ANYONE of any background can lose weight, in a feasible manner. That girl is just a clown man. Now, this drama is not going away. I hope she comes out of this in the negatives.
@@LeonTheSuperHero I mean yea but she isn’t overweight 💀. People have been making fun of her for her weight when I’m pretty sure she’s fine. And yea I’m glad this is going away since drama like this happens all the time and every time people are so overdramatic.
@@LeonTheSuperHero Not sure what you meant by she comes out of this in the negatives, but if it means she’ll learn from this and how to deal with criticism then yea I hope she does too. Which I’m sure she will she usually isn’t the type of creator to get into this drama. Or any drama tbh this was the first time and I think it’ll be the last.
It's such a horrible situation, TBYS is a great guy and makes great videos. He doesn't deserve any of this. Illy could've ignored it, but no, she has to go cry about it and try to take it down. People need to learn to take criticism.
like TBYS said in his video about this 2 weeks ago, by making such a big stink about it she's just drawing more attention to her and her video on fat phobia, the ole Streisand effect in full display. had she done nothing no one would have even remembered TBYS had made that video, but now she's getting multiple other youtubers and others involved. her best bet now would honestly to let it go and stop the attacks, let things cool down, maybe even apologize, but i have a feeling she is going to double down which honestly might make things way worse, possibly even get legally involved if TBYS sues (which would totally be within his right)
@@robinfox4440 that wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes the people who claim to be against bullying and abuse as well as want others to take past trauma and mental health into consideration are the first people to throw away their own moral standards because they think too highly of themselves and that their opponents somehow deserve mistreatment. Illymations is a two faced bitch.
as an illymation fan, I agree with think before you sleep. I do believe that he did nothing wrong and did the correct thing when criticizing illy, that video she made was stupid and needed to be criticized. I also agree that it is scummy to ask her fans to report him for "cyberbullying." Illy needs to be criticized and I've been watching her for years.
As a member of the religious organisation "The Plankton enjoyers" we advise that you not insult us this way ever again a hitman is currently being sent to your local burger King 😠
As infuriating as this is, if TBYS comes out of this controversy on the greener side, he will garner a much larger audience than before. Whereas win or lose, Illymations' reputation will forever be tarnished by her attempt to deplatform another RUclipsr based on a video SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN. Regardless of outcome, that's a fat L for her
she could have realized this and instead of playing a game she can't win she could have let it be, but as far as i can tell she thought with her emotions instead of her brain and made the spontaneous emotional response which honestly has gotten her into a lot more trouble than it should be worth
It's sad for sure. I think her actions are an extreme defense mechanism, considering some of the topics she's covered in some of her past videos.......
If anything positive ever were to come out of this situation, I think it would be TBYS getting more attention. Although Illymations is weaponizing her massive audience against him, it will backfire on her greatly. With channels like yours and people around the internet with common sense will unite against her baseless attacks, and in the process, many new people will get exposed to TBYS's awesome content. He is by far one of the most intelligent, researched, objective, no BS commentators on the platform right now.
Like hell yeah, dude! She's gotten away with her scumminess for this long, so I can only hope her days of prosperity finally come to a permanent close. 😊
Oh my god I can’t tell if all of you are purposely dumb. Like the drama ended last week💀 TBYS is fine Acheeto is literally just milking the content at this point.
TBYS has a harsh style of... "constructive criticism", but nothing he says is meant to be malicious. It is all meant to give people the motivation and advice they need to change negative things about themselves. Not encouraging people to give in to bad habits and be tolerant of their current states just because it's easy, not because it's actually good or healthy, isn't "mean". It's realistic. TBYS's way of giving advice isn't for everyone, but it's nowhere near bullying. Illymation needs to lay off of the nonsensical accusations and mass flagging campaigns against a channel that she's never watched and knows nothing about.
i look at it this way. there is a reason we don't tell alcoholics that their actions are healthy and acceptable. AA is all about accountability and admitting you have a problem. yet somehow telling fat people that the way they are is perfect and to keep on eating stuff that is bad for you is somehow a good thing??? TBYS isn't really being brutal in his original video. he is having a pretty reasonable response of someone openly enabling (if not supporting) addiction. this is from someone whose mom is on her way to eating herself to an early death because she won't admit she has a problem.
@@sovietunion7643I'm not necessarily saying that he's that way in this particular video, but he does tend to have a harsher way of addressing self-destructive behavior than the average person. I think his style may have been somewhat softened by Brittany, I've noticed a lot more similarities in their approaches towards criticism of others recently.
@@eliseosterbrink8000 Because he dislikes complainers that can fix their issues. Imagine seeing your friend able to be 5x greater than they are now but they aren't because they limit themselves by saying they are perfect the way they are. Just think about it. You see so much potential in someone and they do jack squat with it because people tell them, don't, there is no need and now they are just a limp version of themselves, barely managing to enjoy life
No he literally didn't. All he did was shamed her, slandered her and misrepresenting her whole video, gave her bad advice since he isn't a doctor nor a professional since he literally ignored her video. Stfu
@@kuggacouragegx6093you obviously did not watch tbys video dod you he gave some solid advicd for her fashion bc she cant do it herself and gave her tips on losing weight
@@KfcOwner no he never did. The dude was insulting her u idiot. He isn't no pro nor have the right to talk about someone's fashion while dressing the way he does nor to a woman since he is a boy. Stupid his advice is literally him just saying working out and eat less. That isnt good advice u idiots that is basic advice but he is misrepresenting it on purpose cause it isn't that simple at all, which she talked about in her video yet u idiots didn't even watched. U literally seeing him showing his bias by misrepresenting a source by only highlighting 1 line from it about weight gain yet ignored the many others that are bloody key factor, and took her out of context by even claiming she said that being fat is a healthy weight which she never said I dare u to tell me where tf he prove that she told her audience to go after him???? Or telling her viewers to be fat or eat more food??? Show me
@@KfcOwner no he never did. The dude was insulting her u idiot. He isn't no pro nor have the right to talk about someone's fashion while dressing the way he does nor to a woman since he is a boy. Stupid his advice is literally him just saying working out and eat less. That isnt good advice u idiots that is basic advice but he is misrepresenting it on purpose cause it isn't that simple at all, which she talked about in her video yet u idiots didn't even watched. U literally seeing him showing his bias by misrepresenting a source by only highlighting 1 line from it about weight gain yet ignored the many others that are bloody key factor, and took her out of context by even claiming she said that being fat is a healthy weight which she never said I dare u to tell me where tf he prove that she told her audience to go after him???? Or telling her viewers to be fat or eat more food??? Show me
TBYS actually gives very good advice when it comes to fashion, i never really thought about how clothes bring attention to certain area. Hope this whole thing doesnt go further, cus man's got great advice and is hella entertaining
The only two I have respect for is the odd1isout and tomska and the asdf guys. They at least admit that they have been wrong about stuff before and acknowledged that. Allysa hasn’t yet.
fat positivity is stupid. we're taught from a young age to be healthy. don't gte me wrong if you have a condition that makes you fat then sure that's completely valid but don't make being fat this whole amazing thing that encourages an unhealthy lifestyle. anyways to me it seems like cope (ilymations friend) trying to defend cope (ilymations). i've watched all 3 videos (including yours) and i have to say you explained it really well so thank you.
i find it crazy that people will get pressed at advice given to them. i quit football (soccer) when i was 8 and got quite chubby. one of my friends recommended i head to the gym and i've felt the best i've ever felt. lets appreciate advice instead of undermining it. i didn't get mad at my friend or started crying i just listened to him and thanked him.
@@corruptednoob5104 Streisand effect basically is when someone tries to censor some information and it backfires and spreads to a whole lot of people who wouldn't originally know thus causing the unintended opposite effect.
She wasn't supposed to ignore it, because it was supposed to help her become a better person. As someone who creates art and writes stories for myself, I have to always listen to feedback and criticism. She made the mistake of being on her high horse, because she couldn't accept the truth; the truth being that she's an insecure loser who wants clout and attention
the good ole Streisand effect. making such a big stink about it has only multiplied the controversy over her video tenfold. had she done nothing no one would even remember the video at all.
I was a fat teenager (My heaviest being 283 pounds) and i can assure you the only perks you're gonna get for being fat are having lower back pain, sleeping issues, and being disappointed in yourself. Now in my late 20s, im only 190 pounds and feel great. Illymation needs to get a clue.
Cyber bullying... bruh, TAKE A BREAK FROM THE INTERNET. Criticism isn't harassment or bullying. What IS harassment and bullying is sending your massive fanbase after someone to false flag their video/channel because you cannot control your own emotions. Go talk to your therapist a little more, but make sure they watch TBYS' video for context :D
Stupid stfu nothing he was doing was criticizing her. She did nothing wrong at all and he made a video slandering her to encourage u idiots to hate kn her. Yes that is bullying. Then playing victims by lying. Which is more slander Stupid she never sent anyone after him nor to harass him, she literally said to ignore it and don't pay him any mind. Wtf u are talking about
It's hilarious that her friend says the evidence is untrue or cherry-picked even though he literaly reads articles illy used but actually looks below the surface at said studies.
This situation is disgusting and I really hope TBYS comes out ok at the end of this. I love his videos and he really helps me think critically. I guess this is what happens when you speak the truth.
FR. if someone said i was being attacked i would want to see HOW and exactly how i was being insulted. why TF would you just take someone's word for it and not look at the content against you. its like the actions of a toddler who emotionally is lashing out at any perceived insult
You know, before this, I actually liked Alyssa, since all I knew her for were her animation story videos, which I actually found pretty good. (don't hate me) Now, that THIS has happened, I'm not gonna lie like others, (hate me for this) I'll still watch her content, but I'll never see her in the same light again.
Think Before You Sleep actually has some really good advice. If he did a video on me and went in depth on how I could improve stuff it’d be invaluable because I wouldn’t have to do as much research. I’d look into what he suggested and go from there. Illymations should be thanking him, not throwing a tantrum like a child. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
bro , people should rally behind channels like these and help them in these kinds of situations , nobody deserves to be deplatformed for constructive criticism
@@notreallykeven86 yes I literally did. U idiots didn't. Nothing he did was criticism, he did slander on her, misrepresenting and ingored what she was saying and talking about to put words in her mouth and making false claims of what she was doing.
I used to be subbed to Illymation but I unsuscribed recently all things considered. I heard about the situation from Sensitive Society. When I first watched her Perks of Being The Fat Kid video, I felt rubbed the wrong way and I wasn't sure how to describe it at the time. However, I can now. When I watched her video prior to TBYS, I felt something was off during the video. When Illy said she wasn't losing weight even with diet and exercise and got checked out and doctors found nothing wrong with her, yeah, that had me scratching my head. I felt bothered as I myself have pre-diabetes and seeing the video made me feel confused about myself. Of course, I have shed some pounds and am excerising more and all.
I believe in every study that people "do the right thing and don't lose weight", when they are observed and forced to do the right thing, they lose weight. Weightloss is incredibly simple to understand, just hard to do for some people.
Okay, on what TBYS's section on the dress. Honestly, i can already see that the dress was strange. Didn't necessarily see it as bad design or good design, just looked strange. And as for attacking their appearance, i took that as a few roasts and a half. Not malicious attacks. The thing that doesn't make it sound like bullying or harassment or what have you, is that he gave actual valid advice that you'd normally hear from people. Valid advice such as working on things that causes you anxiety, like in my case working on my social anxiety whenever i talk to people who i don't know or just got acquainted to, because i automatically proceed to select my words carefully and tip-toe around as if there's eggshells around all because i don't want to be seen as weird or antagonistic, which feels like it's made even more so, with the whole social climate of today with people being too trivially easy to trigger and the lack of ability to "roll with the punches." He didn't just keep kicking you down because he's """better""" than you, he gives advice to get yourself back up. Bullies or harassers would never or barely give you the chance to let you stand (then again, i don't have constant fexperience with bullies). Despite his roasts that may be taken as malicious or antagonistic, he points out things that you could do to improve and help you stand. Oh and also, reporting for a video that you didn't even give the time to check if what you're accusing is true? That's not very cool of you.
I dont really like TBYS, but i dont think he should get a strike/something bad happen to hus channel- If i didnt like someones critiques agaisnt me on youtube i could just.. yk, aviod it?
welcome to the reality of cancel culture: anyone who disagrees with me or critizes me is making 'hate speech' and needs to have their free speech removed. its literally the most fascistic thing you could possibly do
@PieroMinayaRojas Eh personal preference lmao- Don't think he's a bad guy, he puts alot of effort in his videos and I respect that, but I just don't care to watch the topics he talks about really
@@rex_is_dead indeed sounds personal and sounds like you don't like him for the sake of it lmao how is it wrong to talk about double standards and (awful) leftist behavior?
The Internet is on his side so I'm pretty sure RUclips won't do anything with the reports because they care about the internets opinion more than situations.
TBYS is honestly big enough that him being shut down over something so stupid would probably cause a huge stink that youtube would want to avoid, so honestly i doubt that him being taken down is very likely at all. i won't say its impossible because crazier things have happened but most people are on his side because he hasn't even done anything wrong.
Think before you sleep didn't even fat shame illymation, like illy's supporters claim that he did. He just said that her dress emphasized two things, that she didn't want to emphasize.
The fact that in his video he even gives examples of photos where she looks good ,he tells her to work on her makeup WHILE showing a RUclips channel that teaches about makeup ,this guy is putting more effort into helping her than most teachers are ,hopefully everything works well for him .
I’d like to send her “therapist” these comment threads from here, tumblr, Reddit and any other place where her hoard of bloated dwarfish whales waddle. Yeah, I said that. I lost almost 100 pounds over five years and I feel amazing. Hearing that “perks of being fat” made me feel gross and sick; I knew that she was going to be trouble.
People in America: *debating weather being fat is ok and fighting over things that were sorted decades ago* Meanwhile literally every other country: Did you guys know we haven’t eaten in 4 WEEKS??? Guys?
Tbys is very objective and probably the most unbiased RUclipsr I have heard, I disagree on some points and agree on others but this is just an attack on someone for no reason
Yeah but he didn’t doxx her. Mobs come after creators like him all the time and no one gets upset about it. She literally asked her audience to mass falseflag his video that was critical about her. If you are a public figure on the internet, people are allowed to make videos that are critical of you.
This is the peak example of why you never take advice from your "girlies". They make an echo chamber for their friend and tell them to do self destructive things as though doing so intentionally.
4:09 How have we fallen so far that basic human essentials, and genuine and obvious life advice, is considered unnecessary, phony, and misogynist?? The Fu-
I find it funny that she's not okay with her fans harassing him but is fine with people mass-reporting his video (which is still harassment). Anyone would much rather be called a dumb poopy head over having their source of income be taken away.
I don’t really think TBYS was completely right about the message of ilymations video and kind of misunderstood it in an area (he was still right about some aspects of it though for sure) but illys response is terrible and no creator should ever try to make their fans mass-report a channel for criticism regardless of if you think it’s valid or not.
there is much room for misunderstanding, she kinda says that the whole fitness industry is wrong and that we should appreciates people as they are, she even refrences an article and podcast that was written/co hosted by a, ahem, larger than average, person and used it as a source. I don't think you can really miss the mark with that...
What is funny is that if she didn't repond and pretended that the video didn't exist it would have gone under the radar with a few hurtful comments ( it is the internet unfortunatly) , but now with this response she is outright abusing the youtube system which could backfire horribly if the situation grew larger
You seem to be misunderstanding something. TBYS is completely 100% right, because he's a fitness professional. Of course, he may have been harsh, but when you're surrounded by idiots 24/7/365, you're obviously not gonna sugarcoat things. He said what he said: girl was ugly, she was too lazy to fix her ugliness, her ugliness is actually a freaking health problem that needs to be rectified, and not doing diddly squat about having a health problem caused by neglecting your self-care gets mistaken for body positivity. Constantly. He even made the mistake of compliments her good features, knowing how completely irrelevant it is now that we know who she truly is. That ray of hope y'all seem to have for her is laughably deplorable in my opinion. I can't believe y'all are giving a bully the benefit of the doubt just because you've known her longer. We thought she was different. But she isn't. She's no different from the likes of your average school bully.
I would love to see you speak with Think, your very respectfully and so far what I watched of the video he had a lot of fun talking with you. Fantastic job sir, your performance in that video is what caused me to subscribe, I hope more channels learn from your example.
You assume that they are rational people who will stop when you point out their claims are baseless. But most people in our lovely world are impulsive emotional ret °-° rds. So when you say that they will just keep rambling.
Didn’t the internet have an unwritten rule to not mass report people with the exception of Content farms, reaction content, and videos showing forms of abuse to things like children and animals?
I unsubscribed to her because of her video on abortion, but I still watched her video. I didn't think it was too bad, but it had it's issues. However, this controversy is just bullshit. Think before you sleep's video was not cyberbullying by any stretch of the imagination.
The biggest problem with this situation is that she has done the worst action in RUclips drama, mobilizing viewers to attack the other creators account. This alone should make it clear this is not a debate and that she has crossed a line that requires intervention from a higher authority or else this becomes a war of who nukes whose account first.
a part of me kinda hopes her fans actually watch the video and explain the situation, hopefully making her realize what's going on, because i REALLY hope she just thinks he actually did all the things her friend said instead of just being a dumbass and getting mad at someone trying to help. This could have a happy ending if she realizes nothing of what her friend said was true and apologizes, one conversation is all it takes.
Anyone else getting iilluminaughtii vibes from this disaster with TYBS and the land yacht known as illy? Illy? That sounds like a spice you put on a dish to make it taste good, no, that name will not work. Any suggestions for a new name? I’m thinking “dog bowl”.
Yeah. I'm only waiting for even more controversy to come from her. Plus, TBYS made the mistake of giving compliments to someone who doesn't deserve them. And in terms of a new name for Illy, I'm thinking "Pathetic Loser Who Cyberbullies People For Being Correct"
@@nevaehhamilton3493 both of you stop being so caustic and show some maturity, what are you 14? She's a young woman and she doesn't like how she looks, and she had a breakdown in front of all of her audience. Show some compassion and shut the hell up, you knew TBYS would do the same if he wasn't literally the target of the harassment.
I gotta say, using Tumblr is a pretty nasty thing for her to do. If you don't have a Tumblr, it's nasty cause Tumblr is a very "curate your own experience" kinda site. You CAN choose to see what's trending, but you mostly see what people you're following post or what tags you've followed, so the people that saw her post see ALL of her posts, or are dedicated. Plus, you never know how many followers one person has unless they do a "thank you for 100 followers" type of post. Plus, not a lot of people use tumblr outside of being part of fandoms or other dedicated communities. Its basically like using a public discord. So the people she has on Tumblr following her could be a couple hundred to a couple thousand dedicated fans, just blindly echoing their love for her in a vacuum. No outside perspectives are gonna see her call to action and call her out and she can just turn of or delete any chats (basically the community notes for a Tumblr post) that call her out. And no one is really gonna see or care about a reblog that calls her our either, plus she can just turn off that feature too
Most women just don’t know how to take criticism when it’s delivered in an unapologetic and unsoothing way. I can definitely see how her friend and thus her by proxy would think that TBYS’s comments are mean, when in fact they’re just not catering to her sensibilities.
I admit your thumbnail and title game has been good. However, I also will say this title is a little hyperbolic/dishonest. I thought there was an update on the situation, but you just rehashed what most of us know. I guess it only makes sense for you to make a follow-up but that was the vibe I got. The videos are good btw keep it up
Some people really think TBYS is sexist and transphobic simply for not being an ally and using critical thinking skills. He isn't hateful at all... I'll admit I am not the biggest fan of his content but this was so f*cked.... NEVER encourage your fans to start a mob mentality. He didn't deserve that shit.
@@titus2213 imagine resorting to insults instead of an actual argument Did you even watch TBYS video? She doesn't doesn't even look that fat, also she never seems to mention her height so it's possible that she's tall and that probably makes her slightly overweight
Stupid. She didn't report anything. Nor told anyone to do it. Ppl that already watched the video were the ones reporting it before her knowing about the video
@@kuggacouragegx6093 didnt she say in a tumblr post "report the video if you see it, dont watch a second of it, dont give him any ad revenue." you gotta click the video which (if im not mistaken) gives them ad revenue
@@livingtree2234 show me the link of the Tumblr post. Why tf he doesn't link the post it self to back up his claims unless he edited those lines in to make her look worse No, giving watch time is giving ad revenue. Also did u even watched her video at all?
Wait... Nickisnotgreen mass flagged Sneako for bullying? wtf? That guy was like the biggest douche when he reacted to one of my videos. Next someone's going to say that Ethanisonline is going to mass flag someone for making fun of his hairline.
Rooting for ya
Sneako is a massive cuck
Hope the best for you
gotta escape from 1984, good luck
Don't jinx it, brother. We know Ethan would totally try that. Regardless, we're with you all the way!
She’s literally mad that dude said she’s prettier than she claims and gave her decent fashion advice 💀
Nah, she hasn’t watched the video at all. One of her friends did and gave her a rundown, which must’ve been the most inflammatory shit you could possibly think of.
yeah, she lookin a little fine in that second pic 👀
@@dadaddy1677 let's not lie 💀 she easily looks like she is justpearlythings's sister
just like that jaskon girl or whatever they always draw themselves as little angels when they are actually filthy indian women
i really dont like indians
"DO NOT ENGAGE"
"DON'T GIVE HIM A SINGLE SECOND OF WATCH TIME OR AD REVENUE"
"IF YOU OR ANYONE ELSE READING THIS COMES ACROSS THIS VIDEO, -please- REPORT IT FOR CYBERBULLYING"
-1984 gif
Hahaha I fucking hate this Orwellian internet.
"Weak and thin skinned, soft and a grave.
Fighting the fight for our junk food to save.
We the Ily's will ceaselessly lie,
To keep our great junk food supply in line.
Please spam the video, don't look at the screen.
Never before have such bitchery been seen!
Ilynation! Ilynation! Tis for thee!
Every deed, Every thought.
Tis for thee!
Literally 1984
"This is like George Orwell's book, uh...1984."
RUclips got this thing about cyberbullying, guess she know what she's doing, thats why its on tumbler bot RUclips not twitter
If Lily went to watch the video, she would have seen that TBYS wasn’t being mean to her. How she is acting is unreasonable.
She'd probably watch it but still call it bullying. She doesn't care about being good faith
Fr, she didn't even watch anything he made, she was "told" (lied) to by a friend and pulled a shit bomb
yea.
i witnessed the exact same behavior a lot. they actively try to stay in their delusion. and attack what intrudes in their fantasy or paranoia.
Stupid stfu yes he was being mean and misrepresenting her video and slandering her
This isn’t bullying, this is just straight up censorship
this is like george orwells uh book 1984
@@FireIGuess literally 1984
china government when they dont like something be like
I mean both fit the bill but yes
The most commuist idea ever :censorship even though it's everywhere
Freaking awful. TBYS did not deserve this. I guess some people can't handle criticism.
especially sharp and honest criticism. i fear that he wont be the last one....the comments get deleted like mad, something is up in the air...
Yes indeed. my content creator tells me to report a youtuber, so I do it without thinking what's next? People who are like this are stupid do they know that this content creator who hasn't even watched the video in the first place is telling there viewers not to watch the same video they never watched? What if this content creator told everyone to donate money to them becasue they said so? No? why is that becasue it's with money but with anything else people are sheep and just do it makes no sense. If you wont spend your money how others want you to then don't do things others tell you to do.
Welcome to life! There will always be a person who hates you when you call his problems or him out.
Ilysa the exact representation of not being able to handle criticism and why you can’t have an opinion
@@MikePainstill the problem is when those people are able to abuse TOS to game the platform they want to dominate.
The kinds of streamers that are popular are living proof that society supports mediocrity.
I would perfer mediocrity over someone like hasan piker and vaush like the bar is low but damn you guys somehow managed to go lower than that bar
this is not mediocrity , this is absolute degeneracy
mediocrity? You are being INCREDIBLY generous.
@@dankmemes8254 How? We hate those 2
@@chrissant6277 I think by "you guys" he was referring to Hasan and Vaush, like he was talking to them.
The funniest thing out of the drama is the part where she just straight up admit that she hasnt watch it and just casually ask her followers "hey lets mass report this guy even thought i havent watch it yet"
"yet"? That implies that she's GOING to watch it at some point.
“Your honor, i admit i haven’t witness a murder *yet*, i beseech you to convict this man of murder anyway” lol
@@madmantheepic7278 WFD man
@@RedactedAnonymous10 I don't mean to be mean when I say this, but I think my comment just went straight over your head. Either that, or I'm misunderstanding your reply. I was pointing out that she doesn't seem like the type of person who ever WILL watch TBYS's video, at all.
So when OP's comment faux-said from her perspective "hey let's mass report this guy even though I haven't watched it yet," I was pointing out that the word "yet" doesn't belong in that sentence. "even though I haven't watched it, period." The "yet" in OP's comment gives her far too much credit, in my opinion. She's never going to watch it at all, so there is no 'yet'.
My 'point', if you will, is to make a character judgement of her. A negative one. She's not going to watch TBYS's video before, during, or after all this backlash. Because she can't stand criticism, justified or not, unless that criticism comes gift-wrapped in a box of ass-kissing and relentless complements with MAYBE ONE pushback. Again, if I had to guess. All of this is just armchair psycho-analysis, at the end of the day.
She lying she watched it. what else would she be doing
I was a fat kid. There are no perks to being a fat kid, and I’m tired of people pretending there are perks
I am slightly overweight and I’m already working out to lose weight because I dread the health problems it brings me.There are *NO* perks of being fat.
@@datravelingmemeist1956 you and me both brother, tho I’m not overweight (I think), just a little chubby. Keep on the hard work man 🙏
there is actually but not as much as worth it. me being bone and skin man i get cold easily i cant handle freezing while fatness can keep you warm a bit more.
...I think those video titles are supposed to be ironic/sarcastic.....
@@DrawciaGleam02 not all of them 💀
I lost so much respect for illymation my opinion went from “fun animator who has some not scientific beliefs about weight” to “another crybaby who can’t even do basic research before putting someones livelihood in danger” ironically enough she’s probably putting her own channel in danger by *checks notes* breaking community guidelines relating to harassment
even beyond youtube guidelines, she might honestly kill her channel simply by pushing casual viewers away by being so childish and dogmatic over something she claims to have not even properly watched. i've seen other comments of viewers of hers also exclaiming this opinion so by doubling down so hard she honestly may make things worse for her channel
This isn't new and she's never been fun. She's been this awful for years and years and years.
@@whateverwhatever4026 admittedly I’ve only watched a few videos so my opinion wasn’t very informed but I don’t plan on going back and informing myself. I know enough to know I don’t want to support her
@@snapdragoon1236 That's more than fair actually. Normally I'd say you should give someone a fair shot, but Illy is a weird exception. Emphasis on weird. Get out before you see too much of the stupid....
@@whateverwhatever4026 agreed. I already think it’s stupid to try and cancel someone for “cyber bullying” bc it’s the internet you can literally just ignore the problem and 99% of the time it goes away, but to try and take someone’s income away while admitting that you didn’t even do your due diligence of watching the video before sending an ACTUAL harassment campaign against someone just shows me you abuse power and don’t deserve my views, likes, comment, etc. it’s the internet equivalent of lying about someone and sending a mob with torches to burn down their business. Just disgusting
It’s hilarious that one of her followers tried to discredit Think Before You Sleep by saying he’s like Jordan Peterson when Jordan Peterson is an actual psychologist..
What
It blows my mind how many people literally just dont understand Peterson's points and still hate on him anyways for his political stance. Thats IF people trash on him because Im pretty sure a majority avoid him since they know they'll lose the argument.
And it's even funnier when TBYS has a degree/ certificate in fitness and health. Lily didn't even research, which makes her look even worse
@@munkydreads with what proof when he doesn't at all nor is a doctor either also his advice are not even good advice, they are misrepresented and just him ignoring the issue.
@@munkydreads yet tbys is the one that can't read nor do research himself where he literally proves the ppl he is arguing to be right and he misreapecting his own sources🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I honestly unsubbed from her when hearing about this.
Disappointed.
I have question for Acheeto tho. Overwatch or TF2?
So the hell did I.
Same bro
Why sub to her in the first place? She's been awful for years and years.
Not only did she herself not watch the video, but she also told her fans to not watch the video so as not to let them form their own opinion. I saw a ''discussion'' about it on r/youtubedrama the newer comments are more rational, but god damn most of the comment section is the most ironic shit I have ever seen. Some are even making fun of his voice which is a thing you can't change unlike you know BEING A FATASS.
Omg stfu she said don't do it to harass him nor give him ad revenue.
It isn't about forming their own opinions. Where u idoots never even saw her video at all. Stfu.
She doesn't need to watch his slander hate video where he literally proves her point
Yea and this is why she said it was cyber bullying cus of people like you lmao. You are making fun of her and you claim it’s ironic when people do it to TBYS. You are a hypocrite💀💀
@@ballohallo You can change your voice with surgery. Though, it's invasive and most people wouldn't consider that normal to that type of problem. Plus, a lot of people can't afford that. But, almost ANYONE of any background can lose weight, in a feasible manner. That girl is just a clown man. Now, this drama is not going away. I hope she comes out of this in the negatives.
@@LeonTheSuperHero I mean yea but she isn’t overweight 💀. People have been making fun of her for her weight when I’m pretty sure she’s fine. And yea I’m glad this is going away since drama like this happens all the time and every time people are so overdramatic.
@@LeonTheSuperHero Not sure what you meant by she comes out of this in the negatives, but if it means she’ll learn from this and how to deal with criticism then yea I hope she does too. Which I’m sure she will she usually isn’t the type of creator to get into this drama. Or any drama tbh this was the first time and I think it’ll be the last.
It's such a horrible situation, TBYS is a great guy and makes great videos. He doesn't deserve any of this. Illy could've ignored it, but no, she has to go cry about it and try to take it down. People need to learn to take criticism.
like TBYS said in his video about this 2 weeks ago, by making such a big stink about it she's just drawing more attention to her and her video on fat phobia, the ole Streisand effect in full display. had she done nothing no one would have even remembered TBYS had made that video, but now she's getting multiple other youtubers and others involved. her best bet now would honestly to let it go and stop the attacks, let things cool down, maybe even apologize, but i have a feeling she is going to double down which honestly might make things way worse, possibly even get legally involved if TBYS sues (which would totally be within his right)
Yeah exactly
She's apparently lashed out like this before. She doesn't strike me as the kindest person.
@@robinfox4440 that wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes the people who claim to be against bullying and abuse as well as want others to take past trauma and mental health into consideration are the first people to throw away their own moral standards because they think too highly of themselves and that their opponents somehow deserve mistreatment. Illymations is a two faced bitch.
6:30 "general gut feeling"
Bro, I don’t think they can even feel their guts anymore with those beanbags for stomachs
Man thats crazy 💀
Bro they don't even have any stomachs
Dang💀👍
Can confirm
That's why I'm putting in work to get rid of mine 😅
Nah, jit trippin'💀
as an illymation fan, I agree with think before you sleep. I do believe that he did nothing wrong and did the correct thing when criticizing illy, that video she made was stupid and needed to be criticized. I also agree that it is scummy to ask her fans to report him for "cyberbullying." Illy needs to be criticized and I've been watching her for years.
And you're still a fan of someone like that? You're a fake@ss. An NPC
Honestly I would've had more respect for her if she just insulted him at left it at that
@@lukeherbst7931 Yeah
@@lukeherbst7931
For example:
“Pee-yew, you’re stinky and smelly.”
I am going to bawl my eyes out
@@Turtleboilol i mean that actually might be worse if you're going to be use an insult like that but you get the idea💀
Guys, I think Acheeto just figured out what collabs are.
hes evolving
he's done this before
Let him cook
No Acheeto is a typical leafy clone, milks drama that ended a whole week ago💀
@@ballohallo ok liberal
Her fans are the type of people to put buckets on their heads and chant ‘ALL HAIL PLANKTON’
Stop projecting what u are doing now
As a member of the religious organisation "The Plankton enjoyers" we advise that you not insult us this way ever again a hitman is currently being sent to your local burger King 😠
@@kuggacouragegx6093 He ain't projecting. You got called out.
@@FernandoMazzo175 he literally just did
@@kuggacouragegx6093 nuh uh
As infuriating as this is, if TBYS comes out of this controversy on the greener side, he will garner a much larger audience than before.
Whereas win or lose, Illymations' reputation will forever be tarnished by her attempt to deplatform another RUclipsr based on a video SHE HASN'T EVEN SEEN. Regardless of outcome, that's a fat L for her
she could have realized this and instead of playing a game she can't win she could have let it be, but as far as i can tell she thought with her emotions instead of her brain and made the spontaneous emotional response which honestly has gotten her into a lot more trouble than it should be worth
You said Fat L, lol
Good ol’ Streisand Effect
It's sad for sure.
I think her actions are an extreme defense mechanism, considering some of the topics she's covered in some of her past videos.......
@@SluhrmzDont fat shame the L!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If anything positive ever were to come out of this situation, I think it would be TBYS getting more attention. Although Illymations is weaponizing her massive audience against him, it will backfire on her greatly. With channels like yours and people around the internet with common sense will unite against her baseless attacks, and in the process, many new people will get exposed to TBYS's awesome content. He is by far one of the most intelligent, researched, objective, no BS commentators on the platform right now.
Won't be the first time TBYS the mad lad 1v3'd vaush destiny and hasan
@@dankmemes8254 common TBYS W
Like hell yeah, dude! She's gotten away with her scumminess for this long, so I can only hope her days of prosperity finally come to a permanent close. 😊
@@dankmemes8254 i think it was ludwig instead of destiny. but still that was nutty
@@dankmemes8254 bro is the definition of "nah, Id win"
Fat is also a scientific term and if your fat your fat but you can change it
PROTECT THIS MAN AT ALL COSTS
agreed
Agree
ABAGEED
what about the comments getting deleted wholesale? its the same issue in the end. YT went off the rails lately!
Oh my god I can’t tell if all of you are purposely dumb. Like the drama ended last week💀 TBYS is fine Acheeto is literally just milking the content at this point.
TBYS has a harsh style of... "constructive criticism", but nothing he says is meant to be malicious. It is all meant to give people the motivation and advice they need to change negative things about themselves. Not encouraging people to give in to bad habits and be tolerant of their current states just because it's easy, not because it's actually good or healthy, isn't "mean". It's realistic. TBYS's way of giving advice isn't for everyone, but it's nowhere near bullying. Illymation needs to lay off of the nonsensical accusations and mass flagging campaigns against a channel that she's never watched and knows nothing about.
i look at it this way. there is a reason we don't tell alcoholics that their actions are healthy and acceptable. AA is all about accountability and admitting you have a problem. yet somehow telling fat people that the way they are is perfect and to keep on eating stuff that is bad for you is somehow a good thing??? TBYS isn't really being brutal in his original video. he is having a pretty reasonable response of someone openly enabling (if not supporting) addiction. this is from someone whose mom is on her way to eating herself to an early death because she won't admit she has a problem.
@@sovietunion7643I'm not necessarily saying that he's that way in this particular video, but he does tend to have a harsher way of addressing self-destructive behavior than the average person. I think his style may have been somewhat softened by Brittany, I've noticed a lot more similarities in their approaches towards criticism of others recently.
It's called HARD TRUTH for a reason
@@eliseosterbrink8000 Because he dislikes complainers that can fix their issues. Imagine seeing your friend able to be 5x greater than they are now but they aren't because they limit themselves by saying they are perfect the way they are.
Just think about it. You see so much potential in someone and they do jack squat with it because people tell them, don't, there is no need and now they are just a limp version of themselves, barely managing to enjoy life
TBYS is soft. If you want a real example, look at how Eminem critiqued politicians in the early 2000s
Bruv literally gave her compliments and ways to solve her problems and he gets attacked for it.
No he literally didn't. All he did was shamed her, slandered her and misrepresenting her whole video, gave her bad advice since he isn't a doctor nor a professional since he literally ignored her video. Stfu
@@kuggacouragegx6093you obviously did not watch tbys video dod you he gave some solid advicd for her fashion bc she cant do it herself and gave her tips on losing weight
@@kuggacouragegx6093ur a troll
@@KfcOwner no he never did. The dude was insulting her u idiot. He isn't no pro nor have the right to talk about someone's fashion while dressing the way he does nor to a woman since he is a boy.
Stupid his advice is literally him just saying working out and eat less. That isnt good advice u idiots that is basic advice but he is misrepresenting it on purpose cause it isn't that simple at all, which she talked about in her video yet u idiots didn't even watched. U literally seeing him showing his bias by misrepresenting a source by only highlighting 1 line from it about weight gain yet ignored the many others that are bloody key factor, and took her out of context by even claiming she said that being fat is a healthy weight which she never said
I dare u to tell me where tf he prove that she told her audience to go after him???? Or telling her viewers to be fat or eat more food??? Show me
@@KfcOwner no he never did. The dude was insulting her u idiot. He isn't no pro nor have the right to talk about someone's fashion while dressing the way he does nor to a woman since he is a boy.
Stupid his advice is literally him just saying working out and eat less. That isnt good advice u idiots that is basic advice but he is misrepresenting it on purpose cause it isn't that simple at all, which she talked about in her video yet u idiots didn't even watched. U literally seeing him showing his bias by misrepresenting a source by only highlighting 1 line from it about weight gain yet ignored the many others that are bloody key factor, and took her out of context by even claiming she said that being fat is a healthy weight which she never said
I dare u to tell me where tf he prove that she told her audience to go after him???? Or telling her viewers to be fat or eat more food??? Show me
TBYS actually gives very good advice when it comes to fashion, i never really thought about how clothes bring attention to certain area. Hope this whole thing doesnt go further, cus man's got great advice and is hella entertaining
So....he's a male Rarity then? 😆😆
..I'll see myself out.
Animation youtubers are stunted adults who never grow up and blame everything on "muh quirky anxiety "
The only two I have respect for is the odd1isout and tomska and the asdf guys. They at least admit that they have been wrong about stuff before and acknowledged that. Allysa hasn’t yet.
What
@@donnerblitzen1388 Jaiden Animations is another great example, as well as Haminations.
but isnt she notorious for "muh quirky anxiety"?@@nevaehhamilton3493
@@nevaehhamilton3493 Jaiden isnt as great as people make her out to be. People need to be careful around tha woman.
fat positivity is stupid. we're taught from a young age to be healthy. don't gte me wrong if you have a condition that makes you fat then sure that's completely valid but don't make being fat this whole amazing thing that encourages an unhealthy lifestyle. anyways to me it seems like cope (ilymations friend) trying to defend cope (ilymations). i've watched all 3 videos (including yours) and i have to say you explained it really well so thank you.
i find it crazy that people will get pressed at advice given to them. i quit football (soccer) when i was 8 and got quite chubby. one of my friends recommended i head to the gym and i've felt the best i've ever felt. lets appreciate advice instead of undermining it. i didn't get mad at my friend or started crying i just listened to him and thanked him.
as someone who lost over +55 lbs, there's absolutely nothing positive about being fat. its just a way to cope and it should not be normalised.
Fat positivity is a psyop by chubby chasers. I am not kidding.
Enjoy the streisand effect, Illymation. 🙂
Her downfall awaits.
@@nevaehhamilton3493what if we go and report her channel for cyberbullying? 😖
What is the Streisand effect? I’ve never heard of it.
@@corruptednoob5104 Streisand effect basically is when someone tries to censor some information and it backfires and spreads to a whole lot of people who wouldn't originally know thus causing the unintended opposite effect.
This situation is genuinely disgusting, and I really hope TBYS can be able to get through it.
Yo ripple on an Acheeto vid fire
The saying “dont make an elephant out of a fly” is pretty fitting for this
She shouldve just ignored it
Interesting. I've always heard the "don't make a mountain out of a molehill" variant of that saying
@@just-linx8271its a translation from my country, but it still deliveres the same message
@@just-linx8271its supposed to be “out of a fly” not an ant lol oops
She wasn't supposed to ignore it, because it was supposed to help her become a better person. As someone who creates art and writes stories for myself, I have to always listen to feedback and criticism. She made the mistake of being on her high horse, because she couldn't accept the truth; the truth being that she's an insecure loser who wants clout and attention
the good ole Streisand effect. making such a big stink about it has only multiplied the controversy over her video tenfold. had she done nothing no one would even remember the video at all.
Hearing TBYS saying “Holy Shit” is a classic.
I get suprised every time, it’s pretty good tbh, it’s hilarious too, you don’t hear it often.
Illymation should have fought before she slept and maybe this wouldn't have happend
😂
Thank you.
She should think before she sleeps next time
I see what ya'll did there.
I don't wanna do this.. I really don't.... but..
Thought*
I was a fat teenager (My heaviest being 283 pounds) and i can assure you the only perks you're gonna get for being fat are having lower back pain, sleeping issues, and being disappointed in yourself.
Now in my late 20s, im only 190 pounds and feel great. Illymation needs to get a clue.
In my late 20’s I’m genuinely skinny since birth but still suffer from lower back pain and neck pain. 😆😆
good job man keep it up👍
Cyber bullying... bruh, TAKE A BREAK FROM THE INTERNET. Criticism isn't harassment or bullying. What IS harassment and bullying is sending your massive fanbase after someone to false flag their video/channel because you cannot control your own emotions. Go talk to your therapist a little more, but make sure they watch TBYS' video for context :D
Stupid stfu nothing he was doing was criticizing her. She did nothing wrong at all and he made a video slandering her to encourage u idiots to hate kn her. Yes that is bullying. Then playing victims by lying. Which is more slander
Stupid she never sent anyone after him nor to harass him, she literally said to ignore it and don't pay him any mind.
Wtf u are talking about
Stfu stupid, did u even watch her video
@@kuggacouragegx6093did u watch this video or TBYS’s video? or any of the videos regarding this situation?
It's hilarious that her friend says the evidence is untrue or cherry-picked even though he literaly reads articles illy used but actually looks below the surface at said studies.
This situation is disgusting and I really hope TBYS comes out ok at the end of this. I love his videos and he really helps me think critically. I guess this is what happens when you speak the truth.
I really am annoyed how she hasnt even watched the video, took her friend's word alone, and just blasted him for it
FR. if someone said i was being attacked i would want to see HOW and exactly how i was being insulted. why TF would you just take someone's word for it and not look at the content against you. its like the actions of a toddler who emotionally is lashing out at any perceived insult
Isnt that friend excuse a fake attempt to hide her overreaction behind a supposed friend? @@sovietunion7643
You know, before this, I actually liked Alyssa, since all I knew her for were her animation story videos, which I actually found pretty good. (don't hate me) Now, that THIS has happened, I'm not gonna lie like others, (hate me for this) I'll still watch her content, but I'll never see her in the same light again.
Understandable have a great day
@@bobskanalThanks for understanding.
@@bobskanalbased take, I wish you both a very pleasant day
Honestly, she’s turning into the legbeard version of tipster and keffals, something that nobody wants to do - except maybe her..
Did u watched her video??
Think Before You Sleep actually has some really good advice. If he did a video on me and went in depth on how I could improve stuff it’d be invaluable because I wouldn’t have to do as much research. I’d look into what he suggested and go from there. Illymations should be thanking him, not throwing a tantrum like a child. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
bro , people should rally behind channels like these and help them in these kinds of situations , nobody deserves to be deplatformed for constructive criticism
Stfu it wasn't criticism
@@kuggacouragegx6093 it was, did you even watch the video?
Nope just a bot that reported without even watching@@notreallykeven86
@@notreallykeven86ignore this fella. He didn't think before he sleeps
@@notreallykeven86 yes I literally did. U idiots didn't. Nothing he did was criticism, he did slander on her, misrepresenting and ingored what she was saying and talking about to put words in her mouth and making false claims of what she was doing.
This really shows how the tolerant side is never tolerant
I used to be subbed to Illymation but I unsuscribed recently all things considered. I heard about the situation from Sensitive Society. When I first watched her Perks of Being The Fat Kid video, I felt rubbed the wrong way and I wasn't sure how to describe it at the time. However, I can now. When I watched her video prior to TBYS, I felt something was off during the video. When Illy said she wasn't losing weight even with diet and exercise and got checked out and doctors found nothing wrong with her, yeah, that had me scratching my head. I felt bothered as I myself have pre-diabetes and seeing the video made me feel confused about myself.
Of course, I have shed some pounds and am excerising more and all.
I believe in every study that people "do the right thing and don't lose weight", when they are observed and forced to do the right thing, they lose weight. Weightloss is incredibly simple to understand, just hard to do for some people.
@@bearrington2024 you've seen her photos on social media, right? She doesn't even look "fat".
Okay, on what TBYS's section on the dress.
Honestly, i can already see that the dress was strange. Didn't necessarily see it as bad design or good design, just looked strange. And as for attacking their appearance, i took that as a few roasts and a half. Not malicious attacks. The thing that doesn't make it sound like bullying or harassment or what have you, is that he gave actual valid advice that you'd normally hear from people.
Valid advice such as working on things that causes you anxiety, like in my case working on my social anxiety whenever i talk to people who i don't know or just got acquainted to, because i automatically proceed to select my words carefully and tip-toe around as if there's eggshells around all because i don't want to be seen as weird or antagonistic, which feels like it's made even more so, with the whole social climate of today with people being too trivially easy to trigger and the lack of ability to "roll with the punches."
He didn't just keep kicking you down because he's """better""" than you, he gives advice to get yourself back up. Bullies or harassers would never or barely give you the chance to let you stand (then again, i don't have constant fexperience with bullies). Despite his roasts that may be taken as malicious or antagonistic, he points out things that you could do to improve and help you stand.
Oh and also, reporting for a video that you didn't even give the time to check if what you're accusing is true? That's not very cool of you.
everyone swinging at bro and he's still standing. love this guy.
I dont really like TBYS, but i dont think he should get a strike/something bad happen to hus channel- If i didnt like someones critiques agaisnt me on youtube i could just.. yk, aviod it?
Fr tbys has criticized Hasan, Noah Samson, EthanIsOnline and a bunch of other ppl and illy is the only person who reported to yt.
welcome to the reality of cancel culture: anyone who disagrees with me or critizes me is making 'hate speech' and needs to have their free speech removed.
its literally the most fascistic thing you could possibly do
Why don't you like him lol
@PieroMinayaRojas Eh personal preference lmao- Don't think he's a bad guy, he puts alot of effort in his videos and I respect that, but I just don't care to watch the topics he talks about really
@@rex_is_dead indeed sounds personal and sounds like you don't like him for the sake of it lmao how is it wrong to talk about double standards and (awful) leftist behavior?
The Internet is on his side so I'm pretty sure RUclips won't do anything with the reports because they care about the internets opinion more than situations.
TBYS is honestly big enough that him being shut down over something so stupid would probably cause a huge stink that youtube would want to avoid, so honestly i doubt that him being taken down is very likely at all. i won't say its impossible because crazier things have happened but most people are on his side because he hasn't even done anything wrong.
@@sovietunion7643 I agree he hasn't done anything wrong, I was just slightly annoyed by how dramatic the title is 😂
Think before you sleep didn't even fat shame illymation, like illy's supporters claim that he did. He just said that her dress emphasized two things, that she didn't want to emphasize.
Illymation messed up. Putting a sad face in a message asking people to harass someone, doesn’t make you the good guy.
The fact that in his video he even gives examples of photos where she looks good ,he tells her to work on her makeup WHILE showing a RUclips channel that teaches about makeup ,this guy is putting more effort into helping her than most teachers are ,hopefully everything works well for him .
Illymation must be shaking and crying right now, running to her therapist
She's running to her personal trainer that helped her lose a total of 0 pounds :)
I’d like to send her “therapist” these comment threads from here, tumblr, Reddit and any other place where her hoard of bloated dwarfish whales waddle.
Yeah, I said that. I lost almost 100 pounds over five years and I feel amazing. Hearing that “perks of being fat” made me feel gross and sick; I knew that she was going to be trouble.
@@Glatzfrosch1236 how stupid are u?
Kind of bold to assume she runs at all
@@GlitchyJames bro, this is the best response to this comment. Surprised that I didn't think of that 😅
im praying my boy's channel don't get deleted he's pretty good
People in America: *debating weather being fat is ok and fighting over things that were sorted decades ago*
Meanwhile literally every other country: Did you guys know we haven’t eaten in 4 WEEKS??? Guys?
Americans know everyone makes fun of them
They Just don't get that it's because they're spoiled and don't know it
First world problems. The worst part is that it's leaking out into the rest of the world
Dam i was subbed to her as well. Its sad that most people dont use their brains anymore 😔
Never meet your heroes, that's what everyone says nowadays.
The world started going down hill when facts got taken over by feelings.
Tbys is very objective and probably the most unbiased RUclipsr I have heard, I disagree on some points and agree on others but this is just an attack on someone for no reason
“don’t engage”
“report the video”
…huh. sounds about right.
Not only is she a coward, she’s a hypocrite. Makes a video about bullying just to try and bully others. What a joke.
Illymations is probably too busy stuffing her face with cake so she had to type what she thought about TBYS... on Tumblr. SAD. 😅
I know right! What a pathetic girl Illymation turned out to be!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@nevaehhamilton3493Fr! 🤣
How about we don't make fun of her appearance, but instead how she went about this whole thing.
@@INTPJay6120 That's a better idea
@@INTPJay6120nothing wrong with making fun of an aspect of someone that they can, and should be changing, being fat isn’t good
She had to move because she got doxxed and received a lot of death threats, hope you’re happy
THATS WHAT IM SAYING THANK YOU
What did he even do?
I'm sorry that happened to her but that was likely because she massed flagged his channel and people don't like that.
acheeto is a far right asshole
Yeah but he didn’t doxx her. Mobs come after creators like him all the time and no one gets upset about it. She literally asked her audience to mass falseflag his video that was critical about her. If you are a public figure on the internet, people are allowed to make videos that are critical of you.
she did NOT think before she slept
This is the peak example of why you never take advice from your "girlies". They make an echo chamber for their friend and tell them to do self destructive things as though doing so intentionally.
4:09 How have we fallen so far that basic human essentials, and genuine and obvious life advice, is considered unnecessary, phony, and misogynist?? The Fu-
Is it me or is Illy's friend a really terrible friend?
No it is u being stupid when tybs was in the wrong
@@kuggacouragegx6093damn, you’re far gone
@@01283 stop projecting
women honestly have a bad tendency to sabotage their friends sometimes so honestly it wouldn't surprise me if this was intentional
@@kuggacouragegx6093 you’re delusional☠️
Remember kids, say no to globalism ❤
Always
No action taken against a globetard is wrong. Period.
This is basically about as bad as that time that one chick tried copyright striking pewds.
Not the biggest fan of the creator that’s under attack but he’s done nothing wrong. These people are insane
I find it funny that she's not okay with her fans harassing him but is fine with people mass-reporting his video (which is still harassment). Anyone would much rather be called a dumb poopy head over having their source of income be taken away.
To be fair, I don't really care for think before you sleep, him losing his channel is a net positive in my opinion😂
I don’t really think TBYS was completely right about the message of ilymations video and kind of misunderstood it in an area (he was still right about some aspects of it though for sure) but illys response is terrible and no creator should ever try to make their fans mass-report a channel for criticism regardless of if you think it’s valid or not.
How did he misunderstand it?
there is much room for misunderstanding, she kinda says that the whole fitness industry is wrong and that we should appreciates people as they are, she even refrences an article and podcast that was written/co hosted by a, ahem, larger than average, person and used it as a source. I don't think you can really miss the mark with that...
He didnt lol@@sumguyontheinternet8873
What is funny is that if she didn't repond and pretended that the video didn't exist it would have gone under the radar with a few hurtful comments ( it is the internet unfortunatly) , but now with this response she is outright abusing the youtube system which could backfire horribly if the situation grew larger
You seem to be misunderstanding something. TBYS is completely 100% right, because he's a fitness professional. Of course, he may have been harsh, but when you're surrounded by idiots 24/7/365, you're obviously not gonna sugarcoat things. He said what he said: girl was ugly, she was too lazy to fix her ugliness, her ugliness is actually a freaking health problem that needs to be rectified, and not doing diddly squat about having a health problem caused by neglecting your self-care gets mistaken for body positivity. Constantly. He even made the mistake of compliments her good features, knowing how completely irrelevant it is now that we know who she truly is. That ray of hope y'all seem to have for her is laughably deplorable in my opinion. I can't believe y'all are giving a bully the benefit of the doubt just because you've known her longer. We thought she was different. But she isn't. She's no different from the likes of your average school bully.
only problem bro has is the problem of winning every discussion he started, what a bummer
I would love to see you speak with Think, your very respectfully and so far what I watched of the video he had a lot of fun talking with you. Fantastic job sir, your performance in that video is what caused me to subscribe, I hope more channels learn from your example.
I thought Illymation was cool. I guess she wasn't under closed doors. I hope more people are aware of this, thanks for making this video!
Illy: I want to look more attractive :(
TBYS: *Gives her helpful advice on how to appear more attractive*
Illy: OMG STOP BULLYING ME! REPORTED!!!1!1!1
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6:38
"I think as a society we have progressed beyond the need to use fat as an insult, it's a fuckin adjective"
So is stupid
True
Acheeto the type of guy to make a video about TBYS losing his channel
a single sentence could ruin all the illy supporters arguments: "can I get a source?"
You assume that they are rational people who will stop when you point out their claims are baseless. But most people in our lovely world are impulsive emotional ret °-° rds. So when you say that they will just keep rambling.
Illy will never be able to take down TBYS. He can’t lose! 🗣🗣💥💥💯💯
There is a growing insistence on some sections of society that criticism is hate now. That includes politicians.
4:43 its so funny how her friend claims TBYS did all that when Illymation did exactly thise things in her video
Didn’t the internet have an unwritten rule to not mass report people with the exception of Content farms, reaction content, and videos showing forms of abuse to things like children and animals?
Illymations fans are like hiveminds similar to swifties and and K-pop stans
I unsubscribed to her because of her video on abortion, but I still watched her video. I didn't think it was too bad, but it had it's issues. However, this controversy is just bullshit. Think before you sleep's video was not cyberbullying by any stretch of the imagination.
The biggest problem with this situation is that she has done the worst action in RUclips drama, mobilizing viewers to attack the other creators account. This alone should make it clear this is not a debate and that she has crossed a line that requires intervention from a higher authority or else this becomes a war of who nukes whose account first.
a part of me kinda hopes her fans actually watch the video and explain the situation, hopefully making her realize what's going on, because i REALLY hope she just thinks he actually did all the things her friend said instead of just being a dumbass and getting mad at someone trying to help. This could have a happy ending if she realizes nothing of what her friend said was true and apologizes, one conversation is all it takes.
Why are some big creators acting irrational now? Like where did all of there brain cells go?
Anyone else getting iilluminaughtii vibes from this disaster with TYBS and the land yacht known as illy?
Illy? That sounds like a spice you put on a dish to make it taste good, no, that name will not work.
Any suggestions for a new name?
I’m thinking “dog bowl”.
Yeah. I'm only waiting for even more controversy to come from her. Plus, TBYS made the mistake of giving compliments to someone who doesn't deserve them.
And in terms of a new name for Illy, I'm thinking "Pathetic Loser Who Cyberbullies People For Being Correct"
@@nevaehhamilton3493 both of you stop being so caustic and show some maturity, what are you 14? She's a young woman and she doesn't like how she looks, and she had a breakdown in front of all of her audience. Show some compassion and shut the hell up, you knew TBYS would do the same if he wasn't literally the target of the harassment.
@@HereTakeAFlower I'm sure ILL E would love to see her dogs being obedient, yapping at thin air and all...
Yeah I don't report a channel for talking shit or being far left crazy I just block it and don't recommend it in my feed, it's not hard.
I gotta say, using Tumblr is a pretty nasty thing for her to do. If you don't have a Tumblr, it's nasty cause Tumblr is a very "curate your own experience" kinda site. You CAN choose to see what's trending, but you mostly see what people you're following post or what tags you've followed, so the people that saw her post see ALL of her posts, or are dedicated. Plus, you never know how many followers one person has unless they do a "thank you for 100 followers" type of post. Plus, not a lot of people use tumblr outside of being part of fandoms or other dedicated communities. Its basically like using a public discord. So the people she has on Tumblr following her could be a couple hundred to a couple thousand dedicated fans, just blindly echoing their love for her in a vacuum. No outside perspectives are gonna see her call to action and call her out and she can just turn of or delete any chats (basically the community notes for a Tumblr post) that call her out. And no one is really gonna see or care about a reblog that calls her our either, plus she can just turn off that feature too
Most women just don’t know how to take criticism when it’s delivered in an unapologetic and unsoothing way. I can definitely see how her friend and thus her by proxy would think that TBYS’s comments are mean, when in fact they’re just not catering to her sensibilities.
Are you f'n serious! She and her mob is still on it??
I will think before my sleep now.
Nice👍
Same
I admit your thumbnail and title game has been good. However, I also will say this title is a little hyperbolic/dishonest. I thought there was an update on the situation, but you just rehashed what most of us know. I guess it only makes sense for you to make a follow-up but that was the vibe I got. The videos are good btw keep it up
0:58 good
"proved their father should of used a condom" lmaooooooo
Some people really think TBYS is sexist and transphobic simply for not being an ally and using critical thinking skills. He isn't hateful at all... I'll admit I am not the biggest fan of his content but this was so f*cked.... NEVER encourage your fans to start a mob mentality. He didn't deserve that shit.
So... She's the bully? Got it
Ilymation and her triple chin are mad
And u are still lonely
She isn't even fat
Lmao ikr
@@SMCwasTaken Cope
@@titus2213 imagine resorting to insults instead of an actual argument
Did you even watch TBYS video? She doesn't doesn't even look that fat, also she never seems to mention her height so it's possible that she's tall and that probably makes her slightly overweight
Its amazing how a youtuber can make it so much worse for themselves when just ignoring it would have been the much better option
Guys maybe they should mass report, y'know, things that should be mass reported like content farms, and not TBYS
how do you report a video without watching it, if you have premium you dont have ads and if you get no ads you watch a second of it so
Stupid. She didn't report anything. Nor told anyone to do it. Ppl that already watched the video were the ones reporting it before her knowing about the video
@@kuggacouragegx6093you lack critical thinking
@@01283 omg stfu I am the only one thinking critically u, tbys, and acheeto arent
@@kuggacouragegx6093 didnt she say in a tumblr post "report the video if you see it, dont watch a second of it, dont give him any ad revenue." you gotta click the video which (if im not mistaken) gives them ad revenue
@@livingtree2234 show me the link of the Tumblr post.
Why tf he doesn't link the post it self to back up his claims unless he edited those lines in to make her look worse
No, giving watch time is giving ad revenue. Also did u even watched her video at all?