What's crazy is he is now official canon in the lore of D&D. He shows up in one of the rulebooks. Think it's one about Avernus or 9 hells or something.
Honestly, I doubt very much that season 3 will include Vecna. Season 2 ended with just _one_ of the Chroma Conclave being dealt with. They still have three more to go, and those are both HUGE.
@@TheArklyte "As an Oathbreaker paladin, Arkhan is required to be evil. In exchange, he has immense power to control and raise undead creatures; the ability to frighten other creatures; and a +4 bonus to melee attack damage. Arkhan multiclassed as a barbarian, granting him several abilities, including the capacity to go into a frenzied, reckless rage." It took me ten seconds to look into the Vox Machina Wiki, I don't care for your semantic Arkhan is an Oathbreaker by choice of his player
@@comteraffayn8351 take ten seconds more, but now do something useful and connected to the context of the argument and google which oath had he taken and broken?
@FathersUnited-fu the commenter is confusing him with the other dragonborn character in campaign 1 that was with the group for a while being played by a problem player.
Dragonborn are ultimately dragon but humanoid essentially. Like dragons, they tend to lean hard into an alignment. And if they are a chromatic colored one, then it isn't really a long stretch to be a paladin of Tiamat. Which, in a way, would make him her servant.
@@Nemial-l7i I’m just more familiar with ultimately humanoid but draconic Dragonborn of faerun, who either come from a culture of that hates dragons due to their history of being enslaved by were or servants of bahamut either given their draconic imbued body by bahamut or the former who joined the platinum cadre.
@s0ph053 fair. It's been a bit since I read up on Dragonborn lore honestly. Tho that still don't change the fact it's possible. Especially when it's a player character like I'm pretty sure this guy was. I've definitely had one of my own for a Tyranny of Dragons campaign whose backstory was he was born into the cult and had been a very loyal follower. Even killed his own parents cuz Tiamat told him too in his dreams, calling them traitors. About 5 or 10 years before meeting the group played by the other players he was stabbed in the gut and left for dead by several cultists. When he called out for a chance to live in prayer, she ignored. That is when he became a follower of Bahamut. Tiamat left him on read, Bahamut didn't. His once white scales took a silver hue that night. He was a silver metallic dragonborn.
The moment was indeed crazy but the moment itself? I as a DM would have had a roll or two for and the other characters react to. He literally cut the hand off, his hand, put Vecna’s hand on, and then teleported out in one round. I get that Matt at the time had too wrap up the entire campaign in one episode at that point but it was slightly annoying for me
Maybe in AD&D, but now Paladins can be just about any alignment, as long as they have a strong commitment and resolve to whatever tenets they follow. So an evil Paladin loyal to Tiamat is perfectly reasonable My father in law is a D&D veteran and he probably would’ve commented the same thing you did about all Paladins being Lawful Good haha
Yeeeaaaa as a general rule they lean towards lawful good sides. HOWEVER, Oathbreakers are a thing, buddy. There are exceptions to almost every rule as far as alignments and classes go, and people are free to play their characters how they wish (within the DM's limits of course). I don't think something as simple as alignment is enough reason to call a character "lame". I feel like it's how the character's set up and played as a whole that determines whether it's "lame" or not. That's just my two cents 🤷♂️
The alignment chart is more of a character guideline than a rule. Paladins are simply a champion that take an oath. Players and creators boxed them into the lawful good stereotype
I don't know many ways to frame something like an Oath of Conquest as Good, and although I don't have my PHB on me rn, I'm pretty sure Oath of Vengeance paladins are explicitly stated to be less likely to be Lawful Good aligned.
Arkhan is played by Joe Manganiello in Critical Role Season 1 Episode 113 "The Final Ascent" and Episode 114 "Vecna, the Ascended".
Still the most hands down best heist ever pulled on critical role. It is still mentioned and even became cannon in Descent into Avernus.
More like hand down
@@-Commit-arson- shut up and take my like
Preety handy I would say
Canon*
How is it canon if exandria isn't part of forgotten realms?
What's crazy is he is now official canon in the lore of D&D. He shows up in one of the rulebooks. Think it's one about Avernus or 9 hells or something.
You are correct. Baldur's Gate Descent into Avernus
The undead dragon he raised from birth but was killed and raised by Delilah
Fr? Damn that's dead cold
Watched that shit live, it was one of the highlights of an absolutely insane climax episode
We played Descent Into Avernus and my rouge not only killed one of his dragons but also basically gave Tiamat the “I’ll think about it” line
He was pretty handy in that fight though, gotta hand it to him.
lololololol
he just wanted all the xp that the deathknight would give.
Real talk... I wanna see this foo in season 3 of The Legend of Vox Machina.
Honestly, I doubt very much that season 3 will include Vecna. Season 2 ended with just _one_ of the Chroma Conclave being dealt with. They still have three more to go, and those are both HUGE.
Can't wait to see this in animation
Well briarwood are already dead so i think they just removed it
@Crispy McBacon Briarwoods die like 3 times my friend.
@Crispy McBacon you're a new fan aren't ya
I hope they do. It depends on how they work in the hand of vecna and if they can use Arkhan despite any complications with rights
@@EsquilaxM Luckily, Joe Mangenello is the sole owner of Arkhan and friends.
>Breaks no oath for he had taken none
>Becomes oathbreaker paladin
Maybe he becomes just A paladin of Tiamat?
No his class is clearly Oathbreaker (multiclassed Barbarian if I recall)
Think it's because it came out before Wizards made the Oath of Conquest?
@@comteraffayn8351 ehm. Are you sure that you understand the meaning of the word "oath breaker"?
@@TheArklyte "As an Oathbreaker paladin, Arkhan is required to be evil. In exchange, he has immense power to control and raise undead creatures; the ability to frighten other creatures; and a +4 bonus to melee attack damage.
Arkhan multiclassed as a barbarian, granting him several abilities, including the capacity to go into a frenzied, reckless rage."
It took me ten seconds to look into the Vox Machina Wiki, I don't care for your semantic Arkhan is an Oathbreaker by choice of his player
@@comteraffayn8351 take ten seconds more, but now do something useful and connected to the context of the argument and google which oath had he taken and broken?
"singlehandedly"
Hope we see him in the series!!!
Bro is a known Ninja Looter 😭
he also has a good chilli recipe
That's probably the most metal thing I've heard.
Oh, can't wait for THAT season!
Man, Vox Machina just does not have good luck with Dragonborn...
No they do not.
I'm Tiberius Stormwind from Draconia.
They kinda did? With the necromancer that missplaced his flying broom
Oh. So that's what happened. I saw the clip where he did that, but had no context.
Its kinda emplied that Tiamat wanted the power of Vecna for herself
Cant wait till this is animated
Multiclassing into barb is so weird since you can’t cast spells when raging
Using smites doesn't count as casting them, so its all good
A barbarian with smites is dangerous af
New bbeg acquired
JOCKS MACHINA!
One of my top 5 critical role moments
is there a build for this kinda character in baldurs gate 3?
Yeah Dragonborn Paladin (Vengance) then break your oath then multiclass into Barbarian for Berserker and probably take Criminal or Soldier Background
@@castbet9183 oh bet thx for the info
I just got to this part lol
Ooh, I can’t wait to see that in the animated series!
Arkhan would donut Drizzt. CMV.
If they make this in prime series
Sooooooo. They gonna follow up on that? Did I miss a one shot or spin off about it?
And he's completely ommited from the Amazon show.
Doesn't he not show up until way later?
He'll shows up when they get to the Vecna Arc wich should be last of the show
Yeah, why would he show up? They haven't even finish the Chroma Conclave Arc. Arkhan didn't show up until well after that.
@FathersUnited-fu the commenter is confusing him with the other dragonborn character in campaign 1 that was with the group for a while being played by a problem player.
I picked up the hand of Vecna in BG3. How did it go from here to there?
Probably pass down
Magic
Was this done by kevin conroy? Talking about Arkham?
Could be ai. I lot of these types of short videos are completely ai from the script to the voice and art.
Dragonborn?! More like Gorgonopsidborn! XD
How does a Dragonborn of all things become a servant of Tiamat?
Dragonborn are ultimately dragon but humanoid essentially. Like dragons, they tend to lean hard into an alignment. And if they are a chromatic colored one, then it isn't really a long stretch to be a paladin of Tiamat. Which, in a way, would make him her servant.
@@Nemial-l7i I’m just more familiar with ultimately humanoid but draconic Dragonborn of faerun, who either come from a culture of that hates dragons due to their history of being enslaved by were or servants of bahamut either given their draconic imbued body by bahamut or the former who joined the platinum cadre.
@s0ph053 fair. It's been a bit since I read up on Dragonborn lore honestly. Tho that still don't change the fact it's possible. Especially when it's a player character like I'm pretty sure this guy was. I've definitely had one of my own for a Tyranny of Dragons campaign whose backstory was he was born into the cult and had been a very loyal follower. Even killed his own parents cuz Tiamat told him too in his dreams, calling them traitors. About 5 or 10 years before meeting the group played by the other players he was stabbed in the gut and left for dead by several cultists. When he called out for a chance to live in prayer, she ignored. That is when he became a follower of Bahamut. Tiamat left him on read, Bahamut didn't. His once white scales took a silver hue that night. He was a silver metallic dragonborn.
loved this episode live. kinda saw it coming but was still awesome :)
Awesomeness
He better be in the show!!!
Who played him?
Joe Manganiello
Should have kept the other dragonborn.
Is this spoilers for the show
The moment was indeed crazy but the moment itself? I as a DM would have had a roll or two for and the other characters react to. He literally cut the hand off, his hand, put Vecna’s hand on, and then teleported out in one round. I get that Matt at the time had too wrap up the entire campaign in one episode at that point but it was slightly annoying for me
Still the most douchey way to end someone else’s campaign
Loool no it wasn't. Shut up
They all agreed and had fun with it, that's the most important I think
@@comteraffayn8351 100 percent fair. I just think it was a bit of a kick-in-the-dick on the audience's side
@@-Meatlorf the audience should suck it up then
Paladin Barbarian Champion of Tiamat? LOL no. So lame. No.. Paladins are Lawful Good.
Maybe in AD&D, but now Paladins can be just about any alignment, as long as they have a strong commitment and resolve to whatever tenets they follow. So an evil Paladin loyal to Tiamat is perfectly reasonable
My father in law is a D&D veteran and he probably would’ve commented the same thing you did about all Paladins being Lawful Good haha
Literally says oathbreaker in the video.
Yeeeaaaa as a general rule they lean towards lawful good sides. HOWEVER, Oathbreakers are a thing, buddy. There are exceptions to almost every rule as far as alignments and classes go, and people are free to play their characters how they wish (within the DM's limits of course). I don't think something as simple as alignment is enough reason to call a character "lame". I feel like it's how the character's set up and played as a whole that determines whether it's "lame" or not. That's just my two cents 🤷♂️
The alignment chart is more of a character guideline than a rule. Paladins are simply a champion that take an oath. Players and creators boxed them into the lawful good stereotype
I don't know many ways to frame something like an Oath of Conquest as Good, and although I don't have my PHB on me rn, I'm pretty sure Oath of Vengeance paladins are explicitly stated to be less likely to be Lawful Good aligned.
More like arkhan the fool