Harley Brakes Suck! Here's how to fix them.
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this video I discuss how many Harley Davidson, Indian, and Victory Motorcycles have insufficient brakes. I show how the Arlen Ness Big Brake Rotor can improve the braking by 30%. I make a case for using this product rather than adding dual disc brakes. It's a cheaper, and better looking solution.
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Appreciate the video bud, that 12ft could be the difference between life and death. Subbed and liked
Don’t forget about your rear brake as well. I figure you should always use both brakes when stopping 100% of the time. People always say the front brake is better. It is better than the rear, it isn’t better than the rear and front together. Might as well use both all the time in case of an emergency it’s muscle memory.
Hey Chris, I agree and I hope you still monitor this so you can hopefully give me some leads as to what to buy to do a complete upgrade on my 2009 Dyna Low Rider. Thanks in advance for any helpful info you can share.
Good clean video! Clear speech and no loud angry music. Thanks!
Great Video for Modern Harley Davidson. The Harley Davidson I ride, since new is a 1983 FXWG. It has dual disks and for this 67 year old rider. It is good enough for me!
Great video. I found the same thing with my Superglide. From the dealership I almost ate the trunk of a car stopped in front of me. I've experimented on many other bikes. Dual disks with quality calipers are ideal. But I found increasing the braking power of a single sided braking system will cause the forks to twist under hard braking. It looks like you have the remedy already- a fork brace.
I have had one on my wide glide for over a year and have had no issues. I have probably only put about 5,000 miles on it though. It performs well and installs easily. Can definitely tell the difference in a big way. I would highly recommend.
still running this rotor? ^^ has held up? what pads you're using with it?
Keep making videos man! There isn't enough well made videos with Street Bob owners.
Thanks Jay.... More on the way.
Ya man I've been drooling over a dual disk set up. But this is pretty cool too.
Love my 15" wave rotor. Looks killer and works!!
I know this video is over 3yrs old now, but I was wondering how these brakes/rotors have held up over time. I have a new 2020 Street Bob and the front brakes are still bad. They aren’t unusable or absolutely worthless, but I came from sport bikes with amazing brembos and incredible stopping power. My last 2 bikes were BMW 2015 s1000rr and 2016 s1000r, so I know great brakes. Now as I get older and still want to ride and take long trips I got a Harley but I’m thinking about getting dual discs but stumbled on this video and if they hold up over time and give me more stopping power for a cheaper price point, I’m totally down to do that and spend the rest of the money on other things.
Let me know if you do see this and tell me how they held up over time, it looks badass and for $300+- 30% more stoping power is no joke and seems well worth it!
Great video brother, very informative and helpful! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
I ride a 48 and I love it but I’ve been wanting something more..So I test rode the 2018 street bob today. It felt great and handled almost like a sportster. Just a hell of a lot comfortable. I enjoyed the video grave me ideas and things to look out for with the new bike next week.
I have an 2018 Street Bob, you'll love it if you already don't have by now, get the ABS brakes, worth the cost
Simple and two the point. Scientific enough for me. An extra 10 feet can makeup to big difference.
I have a 2014 Low Rider and I added the Arlen Ness dual 15" Rotors on my bike and now I have near sport bike stopping powder.
Hell yeah... that's what I'm talking about!
$500 upgrade and one two finger braking all day everyday also progressive fork cartridge and 970 in the rear.
I enjoy watching your videos keep up the good work.
Thanks Richard. I definitely need to upgrade my front suspension. That is high on the list.
Richard Cardone what other kinda powder you got?
Richard Cardone kinda powder u rollin with
My Low RIder S has pesky ABS. I have hated it for so long but the other day it saved my life. Thank you Harley for putting ABS on my Dyna S.
Jacob Lopez how?
I hate ABS, no skidding fun no drifting fun just crap.
Agree, abs is wise.
Thanks bro !!! It's going on my 04 Deuce !!! Matching rotor going on the back !!!
My Victory (06 Kingpin) has floating Brembos on it. Coming off a 96 Electra Glide, I felt like I was going over the front end..lol.
This setup looks like it would help a bunch on the EG.
I also appreciate this video. My dyna needs help and thought maybe a change to EBC pads would help. 30% is a huge difference, and like another said, it could save your life. I also subscribed because of this video. Thanks
Yes, put double H sintered in the rear and semi sintered in the front. Problems solved!
I hated the brakes on my Heritage ,squealing ,jerking till I tried sintered brake pads,I love em!
dude I love how you come up with stuff I haven't even thought of. Awesome
What did he "come up with?" Not a damn thing. This was a lame commercial for a well-known aftermarket product... A bit of advice: if someone has more fingers than tools, they're full of shit.
@@agentelvis81 he came up with something a new guy like me didn't know about...now I do, just like you sweetie
@@treborkciddur you weren't looking for a brake upgrade, though. Considering the AN big rotor kit is in the first few results when you Google "Dyna brake upgrade."
@@treborkciddur this bozo came up with NOTHING.
Thanks for the video. Sounds like a great improvement. Now to bring the rear brakes up to snuff.
Im running that same brake set up and i love it , the old brakes was like trying to stop a angry rhino with a rolled up wet news papir ...
I have a 05 CBR 600RR and a 08 Low Rider, the Takiko calipers on the CBR are far superior than the Brembo's on the low rider, in fact my rear caliper seized on the low rider once before a rebuild and about 2 years later after a rebuild. I switched to after market calipers, it's been 8 years with no issues.
I bought a fat bob 2008 with dual rotors on front. They will stop you on a dime. I use the back to slow me down and stop with the front and finish with the rear. I consider my back brake my Jake brake because it just holds you back but doesn’t stop you completely unless the front brake is used 😂
Man you need more subscribers, all of your videos are killer. Granted I'm a little biased as we have the same bike, and seemingly same taste in upgrades so you're offering me one solid road map haha. Keep doing what your doing! I bet these manufactures would give you an affiliate link too, so you can make some side money for more parts!
Hey Mathew... appreciate the feedback. I plan to keep making these vids... so hopefully the subscribers will follow. Thanks for the tip on the affiliate link. I will definitely look into that.. When you get that bike dialed... send me a pic. I'd love to check it out. granitecityriders@gmail.com
It's a good idea. I can only imagine how bad a single disc with standard pads would be. GG rated pads on twin disc 1450 when I got it. No wonder the last guy sold it.
Can't believe all bikes don't come with dual discs out of the factory
My 20 low rider s rear breaks sucked when I got it so I raised the rear pedal and add washer in-between the rear master and huge difference
I am going do the same on my sportster XL 883.
Safety's first.
It’s a very nice compliment to your bike. Looks amazing
Another Great Video ... thank you so much... i had a 2009 street bob and the brakes where a joke. i would have to stop and let them cool down ... and almost had many accidents because of sad poor brakes... and it only had 12 K on this sad system...
thanx for this. You may have saved me a lot of money. Was gonna trade bikes with the wife and then I'd have to make a bunch of changes to hers so that i could ride it. It all began cuz I'm trying to make her 04 lowrider safe.
Nice! You don't even need to fiddle with the brakeline. 36 to 24 feet, its dangerous to not do it!
Cool vid man. Love the idea. Was considering dual but this is interesting. Keep doing what your doin g 💪🏼
I would love to double up on this on my Roadster. Even having a factory dual disc the brakes still arnt great.
thank you for this video...just shows the difference between stock and the upgrade. my fxdx has dual front brakes yet i'm still not satisfied, just dont feel they give the braking power i need..
Thanks man.. appreciate the support.
Here's a tip. Take off the stock caliper and throw it away. Install a Performance Machine 6 piston for 13" and Galfer Wave 13" rotor. Much better than bigger Ness. Then do the same on the rear.
I have dual rotors up front with Performance Machine calipers . The problem is the rear brake ! I can stand on it and my 93' Dyna has only half the stopping power of the rear brake on any other bike I've ever owned !
I nearly hit deer twice in the baltimore burbs while riding my 06 low rider. I hit the front brake hard and got the slight chirp, BUT I SLOWED WITHOUT INCIDENT AND HAD COMPLETE CONTROL. My brakes work fine.
big reason i got the fat bob was the rake and dual disc brakes.
i love street bobs tho
Cool! How about the WORTHLESS rear brake on a 2010 Dyna...any suggestions?
Just found your channel,do you still have this bike ? Arlen Ness makes quality stuff . I actually spoke within him , rider to rider at the Laughlin River Run in ‘05… we were both checking out the Big Dog lineup and struck up a conversation, cool dude , RIP
Try a Harley with drum brakes front and rear with a tank shift and foot clutch. That single disc brake will look pretty hi tech to you. My 72 FLH has single disc front and drums in the rear.
Good Video; I am going to do it on my Victory CCT. Thanks for sharing.
Buy a fat bob and change the light if you really hate Harley’s best light EVER! Bike looks dope
Better then duel because its still nice and lightweight. most riding on a Harley like backroads and normal riding you have so much engine braking but this was a nice upgrade for sure. How much weight savings with this over duel set up? Has to be quite a bit, the suspention works better with less weight.
Thanks! I like watching all your videos. I am going to buy this big rotor kit and upgrade the brakes lines, keep fresh fluid and good pads. To those that have this upgrade have you also upgraded your calipers? I want the best braking possible. I would imagine the front and rear calipers need to be upgraded if so. I will be adding Trask Turbo to my Street Bob so I want the brakes to be the best and be able to stop when needed. We run our bikes fast in my group in Japan on the expressways. Stopping is more important than going fast or looking good. Thanks!
wow next you should do a gravity test. What you do is simply let your bike free stand without the kickstand and then you let go of it and see if gravity will pull it over...
Wow..that was exactly what I need..thanks so much for showing us your findings w that product..save big $$ too...appreciate it
Put EBC double H sintered un the rear and semi sintered in the front. Solves all your issues. 👊
I have a 09 Super Glide and I have rear brake problems the rotor gets real hot and it takes lots of pressure on the brake pedal to stop, Harley did a fluid flush and it did nothing, how do I fix that?
Awesome clip. Nice work buddy. Thanks 🙏
How about testing the stopping distance from 60 mph? I think that would be more telling and helpful. A ten foot reduction in distance at 30 mph does not seem to be anything that would be extremely helpful.
Yes, it would be nice to know. Probly to scared.
My kit is on order from Revzilla. Can't wait to put it on my Dyna. 🙌
If you were adamant on going with a dual disk set up, you can swap out the stock streetbob lower fork sliders for some fatbob sliders and change the reservoir. I haven’t priced that option yet but it seems like it would be cheaper than one of the kits.
Yes, this is a good option. And I have seen the fatbob sliders on ebay.
? Doesn't the Fatbob have an inverted fork?
Thanks a lot man. My iron 883 is ready for tour.
I haven't had any problems out of my 2020 Street Bob's brakes. Also, your test comparison was on two different surfaces..., so not sure how much that actually affected either's braking distance.
It seems like this could also solve a brake cable length for taller bars too... maybe...
Big rotor does well when coming to a fast stop but, very bumpy when stoping from a slow speed. Not ideal when you have passengers with you.
And i find if one hits the rear brake followed by the front brake, together the bike stops flat and little frond end dive. The braking should be integrated, but my brakes work just fine. Use the oe stuff including tires.
Thanks for this video. Very helpful.
Noticed you going through the tunnels in between oroville and Quincy. Are you from around that area?
This will be the next mod that I do to my night train. Thanks for the video.
I replaced all of the factory stuff with a full Performance Machine setup. Much better peace of mind...
bigger disks show improvements especially at higher speeds
I want to delete shared braking, abs and rsds permanently from my tri glide! The only thing that the front and rear brakes should share is the brake light.
Beautiful bike brother!
Thanks for this helpful tip on the sucky stock OEM brake on Street Bob.
Any updates on other options you may have encountered since making this vid 5yrs ago?
Awesome. Can't wait to install on my 09 Street Bob. What Saddle Bags are those?
My Ebr 1190 has a massive Single rotor and stops well
Excellent video, thanks! Need to upgrade my brakes too. Hope you still own this bike, very nice. Saddlebags look nice as well, who makes them? Thanks again man...enjoy the ride!
Arlen ness sure fixed that mess. Now if they could do an engine kit for those bikes😀
4 yrs later.. any update as to if this rotor has held up to normal use? one thing i worry about with "upgrade.aftermarket/pretty parts" is-- will they last and be durable? anyone with long term use (at least 10k to 20k miles or maybe a set of replacement pads or two) of this specific upgrade please update me?
SOLD! Thanks!
Thanks bro very helpful. I have same problem.
any ideas on the weak rear brakes?
Guess I never though of this b/c my 883R and Dyna Super glide sport both had dual front disks.
wow that's pretty signifigant! great video man
I feel that same way I hate my brakes
I like how u relocate the turn signals
Thanks man... They are Arlen Ness Direct Mount signals. They are really discreet, and honestly just as bright as the stock signals.
Thanks... they are the Arlen Ness Direct Mount signals. They are small but very bright. I love em..
thanks,Harley's always had shite brakes, best HD I owned that stopped and handled well was a fxrts
would it fit the sporty?
Great vid cheers for posting.
For a sporty, buy the vrod caliper which is bigger and has the same bolt pattern as stock. Upgrade rotor to floating rotor from the vrod or glides.
I'm not confident that 30% decrease would scale linearly as speed increased. Was a test completed at 60mph (100kmph)?
Great video. Thanks 👍
Is there no easy swap out callipers, no one out there makes a better calliper set, or something fits from a bigger bike..?
Great video. If you still monitor this, is there a better upgrade you would recommend now 5 years later? I have 2009 Dyna Low Rider and bad stock brakes almost got me killed a week ago with the help of an idiot in a car with no brake light slamming on the brakes 4 car lengths in front of me at 40 mpg. Any helpful info might save my life. I don't mind spend extra to get the baest if it saves my life.
Thank you..This vdo is a big help....again thank.....
Good video and info, saved us some money. I go to you tube for everything, Lol! take care
Nice work on the video!!
Thanks Mike!
3:15 I've noticed it has now some strange buzzing sound. Do you know how to fix it ?
So you're telling everyone you couldn't lock that front bake up at 30 mph? With the Harley break. I bet you can lock that front brake at 30 mph if you pull that brake handle a little harder. Once they're locked up what does it matter whose rotor it is? Yes the Arlen Ness brake rotors are better but at 30 miles an hour you can stop them both at 24 ft.
I already have one of theses on my 2003 Dyna - breaking still isnt great - is there any mounts that work with the AN big disc and use 3rd party sports bike callipers?
Wow so informative... thank you 👍🍺
Такой же хочу купить, вернее куплю. Это тот случай, когда красиво и функционально. 😊
Exactly!
If Arlen saw those bars he'd be rolling in his grave 😂
Great video! Is there a control with a dual disc'd FXR? Curious what the upgrade does vs a stock dual disc. Well done, liked and subb'd.
I would like to see that as well
Nice video man.
Thank you for the support!
Did you get a cicada type noise after you replaced rotor and pads?
What’s the additional/‘piggyback’ saddlebag, please?
Hi there.
I'm looking for extinct rear brake seals and piston for an Australian release 1978 SR500e Yamaha.
Found one kit in the world but they want about $330oz for it when most other kits are about $35.
The cylinder is 5/8" it's cast on the outside of the cylinder 5/8".
They seem to be unique to the SR500e's and XS400e's, only.
If you mention the word Yamaha to the local Harley places it causes some kind of seizure or mental blockage so I was wondering if you or your viewers could help with a very basic question.
Forgetting the piston. Just the seals would do.
It looks like a kit from a 1982-87 Harley could be what I'm looking for. The cup seal that sits against the inner end of the piston over the spring and against the 6 petals of the reed sought of valve thing must be the same as the cup seal on my SR they have the same type of valve and are 5/8".
The information I'm looking for relates the other seal the one like a cup but with the hole through it that is on the outer end of the piston.
Could anybody tell me the diameter of the part of the piston where this seal sits and how is this seal retained in place.
The SR is 9.55mm at this part of the piston and the seal is retained by a small ring cast around the piston under the centre of the seal about 1 mm wide and not much higher than 1mm.
Any help to solve this mystery would be a benefit to all SR500e XS400e owners globally.
Found tons of photos of the kit but none without this seal removed from the piston.
Thanks.
Putting front brake pads on a 17 limited .the pin for that pads won't come out .bolt loose won't come out what could be the problem
Hey man, that's awesome. Btw is that an led headlight? Do you like it?
yes.. that is an after market LED headlight, and I love it. The stock headlight doesn't light up the road very well, and I think it's a hazard if you ride at night.
Cool, so which LED did you go with?
This is the one I bought:www.jpcycles.com/product/902-836/hogworkz-5-3-4-led-blackout-v2-headlight