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I play a version of this build that does 5.5k single target. A little hint: don't apply your dots right away. Get your stacks up and try to use a trinket or wait on a proc. You want to snapshot them dots at your highest possible spellpower, THEN keep them refreshed.
I was playing around with that but I just wasn't sure. Sometimes when you put videos out you think more about the judgment from others than you do about being good.
@@frederikvanhees4701 correct. Spirit builds in general don't run out of mana, or if they do, its a lot longer before they do so. Also many of the talents make spirit scaling nutty.
It's not really a snapshot build. You're only able to Snapshot % damage modifiers and Crit Rate. You cannot snapshot haste or spellpower. Besides only DoT you can realistically snapshot with this build is Corruption. It's also too big of an talent point and RE investment to try making other DoTs snapshot worthy.
Update: He got rid of it haha check out the next video! Autoshot is 1.3% dmg, you don't need the 356 AP and 20% AP scaling on the free wrath. +71 spell power on wrath's lower coefficient can't be worth those 3 talent points. I like wild quiver and the buff for mana and swarm reset, but that wrath doing like 40 more damage every ~8 seconds and the AP for autoshot add up to about 1.6% dps decrease I'm sure you can find that with simply putting points in arcane mage talent crit/haste.
I noticed on the boss you started with DoTs then Haunt > Wrath. Unfortunately that means your initial DoTs aren't benefiting from the 20% dmg modifier from Haunt. Damage doesn't update with DoTs, it takes into account modifiers as the spell is applied.
Not having Haunt would remove the dot component of your Wrath, which was the second highest damage contribution... so yeah, if you want a more dot heavy spec, haunt might not be the best, but I think having haunt and what it brings makes the spec more unique than speccing more heavily into pure dot damage. I have rolled basically all the shadow dots on my Harbinger spec (and shadowform too) but I have not gotten Haunt yet, and I reeeally want to try out that part of the spec.
yo doubles, I've been waiting eagerly for the rest of the CoA episodes for weeks. Did you plan to continue with this? Would be very nice. Its not about i couldnt try them out for myself .. But I like your videos a lot. Greetings and best wishes from germany
I actually decided to not take sharowform in place for twisted mind since you can’t use twisted mind with forms/stances but does give 70sp and a flat 3% hit. It’s area 52 so not random. Curious if you will make videos about the wotlk beta since it’s on sale now? I’ve seen a lot of people getting the bundle for 50% off (me included)
you would have to test out how much raw damage a upgraded bows raw dmg would do vs the extra wrath procs but probably not until tbc (nertstrand for utility or black bow for mana) where the bow base damage on weapons is higher and has some crit but by then it wouldn't really matter so much if you didnt wanna min max to much so going hurricane is probably bis overall if not just for ease of use
Hey @Mcdoubles i would love to se you try make something of a spellbreaker build IK there is non support for it but would love see whith what would you come up
I tested a build similar of this (not auto shot), you need the epic CDs like icy veins, power infusion, arcane power to make this shine (i havn't got any so far so sad ;(((() but, without that a rookie green person can do great dmg with this build. Keep it up
Im using shadoweaving on my build. super good and the rotation of sw pain and d plague gets you to 10% real quick. Growing Corruption is a good RE for aoe'ing trash in dungeons. Using Coax to Darkness is awesome too, the wrath spam will get you another 10% shadow damage real quick. also, I got Typhoon and it hits multiple targets for nature damage and each target hit gets my 2% extra shadow damage per hit from the coax to darkness RE
Thanks for the videos btw. This is the funnest build to play imo. just picked up a second spec too so I can try out the corrupted bear form. fits the whole plague druid vibe nicely. cheers dude!
@@Mcdoubles It's really strong. 10% additional damage to all of your DoTs, which is over 2/3rds of your damage. And it synergizes extremely well with Dusk Till Dawn, increasing both the Shadowburn and Corruption damage.
I guess it would be worth testing to go with the 3 points for empowered corruption instead of some shadowword pain talents, maybe even grab some more wrath or further affli warlock talents and ditch the shadow word pain entirely (casting wrath is probably a better usage of the gcd though) :D
That’s what I did on area 52. I ditched the entire priest tree actually. Focused on affliction and balance. Only use UA, corruption, insect swarm and wrath. Able to pull 4K dps ST so it’s alright. Don’t have the best gear but I do fine. (Edit) I actually just did a test on a dummy again and maybe they changed something but I was able to pull 6k dps with my rotation and my GS is only 112 so it’s not amazing. Pretty solid spec ngl
Wait. I'd we prestige we can use skill cards again?? Does it overwrite the first 2 we used. IE if I used insect swarm haunt cards and then prestige I will still get insect swarm and haunt BUT I can add 2 more cards to my build????
Yes, if you prestige and get set back to lvl 1 you can use new skill cards. If its a normal you overwrite one of your earlier ones, if it's golden you get your pick of 3 or 4 cards
Man if you could do a review video of all the rare skills needed from a healer perspective, we might see a good change in the future. I'm sick of having to own 10 rare to have the perfect build, when I basically need only 1/2 epic. Legendaries as well are pretty much useless (tree of life, pain sup and that's it)
@@Mcdoubles ok. Thank you. Love your vids! Got me back into playing a better kind of wow. Really hooked. Playing free pick for now till I can understand the card rules. Keep up the great work!!
I got lucky at one point and got the succubus skill by chance with this build. Unsure if it's 100% optimal but fits the theme of the build well enough for more shadow dmg. Think benefiting off Shadow's Embrace is a better than Earth and Moon from the affliction tree, most of your damage still comes from your DoTs anyway and still lowers healing received too. Only downside it's 2 extra talent points and takes a little bit longer to stack and more punishing if you miss your Haunt. I like using Spirit related talents with this build too; Student of the Mind making 15% of your spirit into spell power, Mediation giving 15% of your spirit into spell crit and the Moonglow talent procing 30% more spirit when casting wrath which in adds in more value with Fel Armor and Molten Armor. (Though I wouldn't rely on Moonglow alone on Fel Armor for spell hit)
Must say I enjoy the videos of you making the build, leveling and unlocking everything and explaining your thinking as you level - over a video which just shows the build. Kind of anti-climactic.
Same here try out force of nature and the enchant druid of rot: fungarians they do a disease cloud and it does a stupid amount of dmg in that 30 sec window in both single and aoe
Your enchants dont make any sense, why would you have "Providing for Nature" when you dont even have entangling roots? You also seem to have some pertaining to Shadow Word Death without using that spell
does anyone use "Shadow Weaving" talent with this build? Seems like if you threw in a shadow priest spell to the rotation you could get an up to 10% shadow damage buff
That's because they were just random enchants that weren't fully fleshed out yet. I don't quite remember what was going on back in this video but that's normal. You'll have random enchants sometimes with no purpose and things from previous builds that you aren't using UNTIL you can afford everything you do need.
@@Mcdoubles oh gotcha, forsure! That makes sense, happens to me all the time. I thought that the build thing was like custom selected based upon your build, not what you had exactly
Looks like ass, I dont know how the devs design an insect swarm plague build that doesnt do much of anything and instead you're left with a plain ol' wrath build. If i wanted a wrath build Id have significantly fewer REs and the same amount of damage but with more of a nature focus. The haunt is absolutely useless lmfao.
Harbinger is literally #1 caster DPS build, hell I'm pretty sure it's #1 single target DPS build at the moment. Haunt is the key part of the build as well, it's not even worth playing with it.
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I started wachting 1 Video of my recomendet List , now i cicle thru your Vids 24/7 😂
Im glad i found such a positiv and nice WoW RUclipsr.
Also started playing CoA cuz of you.
Much Love from Germany ❤
I play a version of this build that does 5.5k single target. A little hint: don't apply your dots right away. Get your stacks up and try to use a trinket or wait on a proc. You want to snapshot them dots at your highest possible spellpower, THEN keep them refreshed.
I was playing around with that but I just wasn't sure. Sometimes when you put videos out you think more about the judgment from others than you do about being good.
Normally u also play it with spirit main stat no?
@@frederikvanhees4701 correct. Spirit builds in general don't run out of mana, or if they do, its a lot longer before they do so. Also many of the talents make spirit scaling nutty.
It's not really a snapshot build. You're only able to Snapshot % damage modifiers and Crit Rate. You cannot snapshot haste or spellpower. Besides only DoT you can realistically snapshot with this build is Corruption. It's also too big of an talent point and RE investment to try making other DoTs snapshot worthy.
Update: He got rid of it haha check out the next video!
Autoshot is 1.3% dmg, you don't need the 356 AP and 20% AP scaling on the free wrath. +71 spell power on wrath's lower coefficient can't be worth those 3 talent points. I like wild quiver and the buff for mana and swarm reset, but that wrath doing like 40 more damage every ~8 seconds and the AP for autoshot add up to about 1.6% dps decrease I'm sure you can find that with simply putting points in arcane mage talent crit/haste.
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Love watching your videos. I don't play WoW anymore but these ps are very refreshing to see and look super fun.
Some speak legends, that to this day.. Cynicle remains snared.
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Love watching these videos, haven't played WoW in some time and I'm back for SoM. These videos are so entertaining and I learn quite a bit.
Oughta try ascension and you'll never go back to retail/classic again lol
I noticed on the boss you started with DoTs then Haunt > Wrath. Unfortunately that means your initial DoTs aren't benefiting from the 20% dmg modifier from Haunt. Damage doesn't update with DoTs, it takes into account modifiers as the spell is applied.
add in the fact that if he had mind blast to get the shadow weaving talent going his dps would skyrocket.
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Not having Haunt would remove the dot component of your Wrath, which was the second highest damage contribution... so yeah, if you want a more dot heavy spec, haunt might not be the best, but I think having haunt and what it brings makes the spec more unique than speccing more heavily into pure dot damage.
I have rolled basically all the shadow dots on my Harbinger spec (and shadowform too) but I have not gotten Haunt yet, and I reeeally want to try out that part of the spec.
And haunt is an aoe ability for that build.
Mana gem is a component of almost any caster build and vampiric embrace makes you a pvp god with a spec like this. They have to be rares.
You should try the build in Area 52 with level 70 and the ability to choose the skills you want/need and see how strong it is.
Its pretty strong
Cheers mate loved the vid.
Glad you enjoyed it
Do you have the talent build page to copy this? Interested!
Pog hell yea been waiting for a new vid Pog
Have you tried to equip a quiver for 15% ranted attach speed?
You should do another hardcore ironman series. I really enjoyed the one you did a few years ago. Lots of funny moments
yo doubles,
I've been waiting eagerly for the rest of the CoA episodes for weeks. Did you plan to continue with this? Would be very nice. Its not about i couldnt try them out for myself .. But I like your videos a lot.
Greetings and best wishes from germany
Was wondering is it posible to make a pet build? Or is it good?
I would drop the careful aim for Natures grace, it would probably be a huge boost comparatively
I would like to see the overview screen for your random wow runs A52-Cardioplaxia
Please Show us some PvP action with this build. Im so curios how it performs. Cant wait for more wow Vids, really like them
Have you tested the epic RE Twisted Mind with this? Might be really good for PVE
I actually decided to not take sharowform in place for twisted mind since you can’t use twisted mind with forms/stances but does give 70sp and a flat 3% hit. It’s area 52 so not random. Curious if you will make videos about the wotlk beta since it’s on sale now? I’ve seen a lot of people getting the bundle for 50% off (me included)
Love your videos, Thinking about playing ascension now. also whats that add on for your player frames?
xperl! :)
you would have to test out how much raw damage a upgraded bows raw dmg would do vs the extra wrath procs but probably not until tbc (nertstrand for utility or black bow for mana) where the bow base damage on weapons is higher and has some crit but by then it wouldn't really matter so much if you didnt wanna min max to much so going hurricane is probably bis overall if not just for ease of use
Realy nice build wow big probs tow you end your videos 😎
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Hey @Mcdoubles i would love to se you try make something of a spellbreaker build IK there is non support for it but would love see whith what would you come up
Meaning meele anti spell fighter idk about weapons but spellbreakers are mostly depicted with one h + shield but also minorly with two Hand swords
would you like a Pain and Punishment RE? it's blue and increases the damage of your Wrath by 4% on targets afflicted by SW: P
Yes I think that's a great one, appreciate it, didn't remember that existed.
I tested a build similar of this (not auto shot), you need the epic CDs like icy veins, power infusion, arcane power to make this shine (i havn't got any so far so sad ;(((() but, without that a rookie green person can do great dmg with this build. Keep it up
Wow, I completely forgot about offensive cds. My brain is too world pvp-oriented and all I ever think about is CC.
Im using shadoweaving on my build. super good and the rotation of sw pain and d plague gets you to 10% real quick. Growing Corruption is a good RE for aoe'ing trash in dungeons. Using Coax to Darkness is awesome too, the wrath spam will get you another 10% shadow damage real quick. also, I got Typhoon and it hits multiple targets for nature damage and each target hit gets my 2% extra shadow damage per hit from the coax to darkness RE
Thanks for the videos btw. This is the funnest build to play imo. just picked up a second spec too so I can try out the corrupted bear form. fits the whole plague druid vibe nicely. cheers dude!
Coax of Darkness is one that I completely forgot about. There are just too many epic enchants now.
@@Mcdoubles It's really strong. 10% additional damage to all of your DoTs, which is over 2/3rds of your damage. And it synergizes extremely well with Dusk Till Dawn, increasing both the Shadowburn and Corruption damage.
I guess it would be worth testing to go with the 3 points for empowered corruption instead of some shadowword pain talents, maybe even grab some more wrath or further affli warlock talents and ditch the shadow word pain entirely (casting wrath is probably a better usage of the gcd though) :D
That’s what I did on area 52. I ditched the entire priest tree actually. Focused on affliction and balance. Only use UA, corruption, insect swarm and wrath. Able to pull 4K dps ST so it’s alright. Don’t have the best gear but I do fine. (Edit) I actually just did a test on a dummy again and maybe they changed something but I was able to pull 6k dps with my rotation and my GS is only 112 so it’s not amazing. Pretty solid spec ngl
Doubt the bew dmg does anything important for the DPS, so any bow faster than you wrath cast speed will do. But the hurricane is probably a choice.
Can you make a hunter version of this build please
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wouldn't be nice to have succubus for the extra 5% crit 5% shadow damage?
no soul link?
Wait. I'd we prestige we can use skill cards again?? Does it overwrite the first 2 we used. IE if I used insect swarm haunt cards and then prestige I will still get insect swarm and haunt BUT I can add 2 more cards to my build????
Yes, if you prestige and get set back to lvl 1 you can use new skill cards. If its a normal you overwrite one of your earlier ones, if it's golden you get your pick of 3 or 4 cards
Is there a way to do a decent Mana Shield tank?
I'm not sure honestly. There were broken mana shield builds in the early days of Ascension but they had to be nerfed
Man if you could do a review video of all the rare skills needed from a healer perspective, we might see a good change in the future. I'm sick of having to own 10 rare to have the perfect build, when I basically need only 1/2 epic. Legendaries as well are pretty much useless (tree of life, pain sup and that's it)
What does it mean to prestige? You start all over? What’s the point? Thanks
You get rewards and a chance at a better build
@@Mcdoubles ok. Thank you. Love your vids! Got me back into playing a better kind of wow. Really hooked. Playing free pick for now till I can understand the card rules. Keep up the great work!!
I had to make a 1button macro for those late night grinds
Ey can you link that macro?😮😊
I got lucky at one point and got the succubus skill by chance with this build. Unsure if it's 100% optimal but fits the theme of the build well enough for more shadow dmg.
Think benefiting off Shadow's Embrace is a better than Earth and Moon from the affliction tree, most of your damage still comes from your DoTs anyway and still lowers healing received too. Only downside it's 2 extra talent points and takes a little bit longer to stack and more punishing if you miss your Haunt. I like using Spirit related talents with this build too; Student of the Mind making 15% of your spirit into spell power, Mediation giving 15% of your spirit into spell crit and the Moonglow talent procing 30% more spirit when casting wrath which in adds in more value with Fel Armor and Molten Armor. (Though I wouldn't rely on Moonglow alone on Fel Armor for spell hit)
I was under the impression that Shadows Embrace is best used with Shadowbolt but I'll give it a look
But was Samon DTF?
sadly, no.
Must say I enjoy the videos of you making the build, leveling and unlocking everything and explaining your thinking as you level - over a video which just shows the build. Kind of anti-climactic.
im using a moonkin harbinger easy rotation easy dps 3k+ same ilvl
Same here try out force of nature and the enchant druid of rot: fungarians they do a disease cloud and it does a stupid amount of dmg in that 30 sec window in both single and aoe
Who else is doing it? Nobody the pvp players just take!
u dtf?
:o...?
300 cards in still no haunt 😩
im sorry man that is really unlucky. Try rolling it at 60 with few rares in your draft, you may get it like I did my first run.
You round liberally
1.8 speed bow = pvp bow
I am starting to think WoW is not a good game
3rd
Your enchants dont make any sense, why would you have "Providing for Nature" when you dont even have entangling roots? You also seem to have some pertaining to Shadow Word Death without using that spell
does anyone use "Shadow Weaving" talent with this build? Seems like if you threw in a shadow priest spell to the rotation you could get an up to 10% shadow damage buff
That's because they were just random enchants that weren't fully fleshed out yet. I don't quite remember what was going on back in this video but that's normal. You'll have random enchants sometimes with no purpose and things from previous builds that you aren't using UNTIL you can afford everything you do need.
@@Mcdoubles oh gotcha, forsure! That makes sense, happens to me all the time. I thought that the build thing was like custom selected based upon your build, not what you had exactly
Looks like ass, I dont know how the devs design an insect swarm plague build that doesnt do much of anything and instead you're left with a plain ol' wrath build. If i wanted a wrath build Id have significantly fewer REs and the same amount of damage but with more of a nature focus. The haunt is absolutely useless lmfao.
Harbinger is literally #1 caster DPS build, hell I'm pretty sure it's #1 single target DPS build at the moment. Haunt is the key part of the build as well, it's not even worth playing with it.
Hey I made it in this video! Hope you like the staff tmog!