I have the AT4Ws on my 4runner. AMAZING tire. in wet conditions they are the best AT tire fullstop. quiet smooth ride. aggressive rugged sidewall, truly the best of all worlds.
At3 on my 08 Yukon Denali. 18/32 tread when they were new and after 34k miles I’m down to 13/32. They have performed perfect in wet and snow/ice. 285/55r20 10ply on a 20x10 -24 moto metal. Super happy with the tires Running around 45-50 psi since I don’t tow much at all
Im 73. Im putting 4 of these on my 92 dodge cummins. I drive it less than 1000 miles a year to haul firewood. I will have to live to 140 to wear them out. Same with the truck with 220 thousand miles on it right now.
Yeah if the compound is harder to achieve longer tread life that will hurt winter and cold weather performance. Maybe it has a high silica content which tends to adapt to warm and cold.
So this isn’t going to be a good tire? I’m trying to decide between these or Nitto Ridge Grappler ( I used to have the old AT3 and loved them ) It’s going to be these Falken AT4 or probably Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain. I just can’t decide. I don’t think I’m going with the Nitto ( heard to many bad things )
I have just over 5k miles on them on my 21 F150 3.5L Love them on pavement, wet or dry (no snow yet), back roads or highway. Only been off pavement on dry and muddy dirt roads and they handle great. Barely noiser than the stock Wranglers and, as expected with a heavy tire, about .5 - .75mpg hit. Defenately would but again.
I literally just bought a new set of AT3Ws! Second set of them on my 4th gen 4runner (I got around 65k out of my last set and expecting the same mileage).
How do they ride on the highway? I have a '23 GX 460 and am thinking these would be too aggressive for daily driving and with the added weight, it'll make it much less responsive
I bought a 23 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x and it came with Handkook AT2 and they suck in wet conditions! I'm looking for a new set asap and my neighbor has Falken and I want to know how they handle wet conditions? I had a set of Cooper Discovery's and they were awesome but load on the road! Falken and Nitto is what I'm looking at!
Same thing here! I have a Nissan Titan and I ran the AT3 before and loved them. I thought about changing to Nitto Ridge Grappler BUT read to many real reviews about people hating them in wet conditions etc and them just not performing well. I think I’ve made my mind up for the AT4. Goodyear Wrangler has an Ultraterrain At but I think I’m going to get the AT4 either this or next weekend.
About to go through my second pair of AT3W's on my Nissan Frontier Desert Runner, its a two wheel drive but when I drove in the Tahoe snow after a couple thousand miles I was able to drive 60 mph on the snowing freeway without a problem and navigate through the snow no problems. I'm coming up on about 70k miles on this pair so they need to go but definitely were worth it every time, Im a Falken Loyal customer! Thanks for putting this review out since im on the market again.
I’ve loved my AT3W’s aside from having variations in quality control which required road force balancing and having a few replaced under warranty for excess balancing needed. A set of four varied from 6lbs-36lbs of road force needed. I’ll definitely give these a shot once my current set wears out. The traction, tread wear and warranty has been hard to beat.
I regret not getting those tires for my tundra, I went with the Nitto Ridge grapplers good tire, but I moved to Iowa and the Falken AT3W would’ve been way better in the snow 😐 not to mention my Tundra is a 2WD, I’ve added weight to the rear wheels and thank god Iowa doesn’t have steep roads, I’ve been able to get around. Those new AT4W look awesome, I only have 10 thousand miles on those Nittos 295/70 R18 so I’ll try sell them, to get those new Falkens.
@@nolimitbaltimore This is what I like to hear. I just got rid of my 2nd Gen Ford Escape with KO2's on it and I got a brand new Rav4. I want to put some A/T tires on it but I liked the ko2's so much I am afraid to spend similar money and get something different in fear i will just regret not getting the ko2 again.
@@pete7226 Then show me one example PLZ. I trusted these reviews and spent almost 2k USD on these at3w and was sliding everywhere in deep snow while my friend using KO2 were doing much better than I did.
I think I prefer the look of the siping on the at3w. I’m inclined to think that crossing pattern would get more surface area for the siping to actually do what it’s supposed to do.
I have 80,000 miles on my at3w's on my 18 f350 crew cab. Run 70 psi all the way around and still have 1/4"(8/32) of tread left. Rotate every 5,000 when I change my oil and they stand up on their own when I remove them. Going for an inspection next week and was going to put new 3w's on due to winter coming and was just told their phasing them out. I can still get them but they want $20 more per tire than the new 4's. I'm skeptical if the new tire will be as good in the snow with the higher wear rating. No BS these 3's aren't even chopped up. Hate buying first year anything till it's tested. Probably going to go with the 3's again and spend the extra cash.
I think they should make another version called the AT4L and keep the same tech and design but make it Lightweight and less durable/heavy duty so that it is better suited for people with smaller vehicles that still want the cool look and traction performance but don’t go off-road on extreme terrain. An extra 2 pounds per tire can make a big impact on your vehicle performance (acceleration, braking, cornering, mpg) on something like a Subaru crosstrek or Corolla cross or even a crv or rav4.
It could be worse, for the Ram TRX, these tires are 10 lb per tire heavier than the OEM tire. I'm also considering making the change despite the performance losses.
I got 66k on my last set of AT3Ws. Maybe the 3s were just underrated on the mileage warranty? Now they know the 4s will just last that long? I just bought my second set of AT3Ws for my 4runner! Love these tires!
Looking at these for my 19 tundra. Not sure what size to go with. Thinking 295/70/18. Don’t want to do body mount chop. Thought about 285/70/18 but it’s only load C. Idk!
not all at4w have same specs as for duraspec and 12ply, the 35x11.5x18 dont have those specs, but my rim is 18x8 and cant do 35x12.5 i will have to compromise a few thigs and go with 11.5
I love the look but those are heavy tires. Anyone have any idea what MPG is with a stock 4Runner and the AT4W's? At some point you are trading longer tread life for gas pump pain.
They seem pretty confident about them, I guess we’ll have to wait to find out how they perform over long periods of wear and tear. Nonetheless, on paper they seem quite good!
I wanna know how they compare to the duratrac.. my set has been a disgusting letdown when i load my truck camper on duratracs i get such a violant shaking i thought i had a loose tire or broken belt...does the falken hold the weight or r they weak as well?
I don’t know, the dreadlocks look way too close together to work really good in snow and mud. I got the Toyo open country R/T trail tire and I truly like them. They work very well in the mud, snow and ice.
I just got AT3s this year. 2500hd silverado, im running pressure low enough that im getting most of tread width to contact ground. Truck empty im at abount 60lb fronts and 40 in rear. Is that to low?
I have a question I bought this tire for a 2013 ram 1500 I know this tire have 2 side wall faces one with raise letter and on the other does not well when. I got them on non raise letters has two dot a yellow and red well when I got them install I was told that they could install on raise letters due of the dot is that about right or they were wrong
I hope you're not getting rid of the 3w the new one is probably going to be stiff and probably not grab on anything more miles on a tire means harder ride and not be able to stick very well
How loud are they compared to a Mickey Thompson at.? I am. About to get the 35/11.50r17 size for a Gladiator. I think it's the best overall size. What ppl think?
I’ve had the 285/75/17 for 4k miles now. Hardly any road noise. Bout the same noise as a good all season tire brand new. I like them. They are heavy but for me with a 3/4 ton truck and towing I need the durability. If their bouncy as hell when you get them just adjust your air pressures accordingly.
My local tire shop called Falken and they told him these tires aren't in production...can't get them yet. Wonder if they dont have a preferred relationship or something. How did you all get these already?
Man i love my AT3s but now the AT4s are 80lbs. Jeez that's alot. I was comparing others. ie: the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs and theyre only 58lbs with great reviews.
Not sure what size you are looking at being 80 lbs. Certainly not a stock tire. That is far too heavy for a stock size for even a 3500 Heavy Duty Ram, Ford, or Chevy..
Bought a set a month ago for my 2011 F150 FX4. I'm disappointed in the highway driving performance. The tires require significant driver attention to keep the truck on track compared to the Bridgestone Dueller Revos I had on it previously. I have to make small adjustments as if the steering is loose. I've had the truck aligned by the top independent alignment shop in the area, and the suspension was checked, so this is not the issue. Has anyone else experienced this with these tires?
@@BTL3.0 Yes. i had been giving the issue a bit of time at the Discount Tire mgr’s request He said to allow time for the tire to “mellow”. He said any tires can squirm when new before the 500 mi mark, like Im experiencing, Unfortunately the 30 days passed before that distance. However I asked Falken for a concession to swap the tires for a new set to see. If that solves the problem. We’ll see if they come through
@@BTL3.0 thanks. Dealing with Falken customer service has been good. Discount Tire has been the hurdle. For example, they didn’t balance the tires (found that out at a third party who was double checking the alignment). Had the balance correct but the “dead band” in the center of the steering still persisted.
UPDATE: I finally gave up on the Falken AT4Ws after 3 alignments, a balance, and a rotation. Falken provided a concession and exchanged for a Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo 3 set. Exponentially better performance on the road. The new tires feel stable and firm without being rough. I'm impressed by Falken's customer service but unfortunately they need to work out some kinks with the Wildpeak AT4Ws in my opinion. Thanks for everyone's input and thoughts.
I’ve been interested in these tires. Had the Toyo at3 prior. Had 5/32 left with 70k miles on them out of 13/32. Did great on dry. Was quiet. Smooth. Rain performance started taking a huge hit. Snow did pretty decent. Went a 45 degree incline with 6 inches of snow without much struggle until about 30 feet. Also started dry rotting less than a year and chunks started to be missing. Currently have Baja boss ats. So much better in performance. 10 ply instead of 6 ply this time so they are heavier and ride rougher. I’m sure the 6 ply’s ride great. Average 1/32 per 10k miles. Currently have 90k miles on them. 7000 pound Denali and tow often as well. Do extremely well in snow. Don’t struggle at all and tested it on the same hill. Truly do phenomenal in everything except the noice is getting louder and throw rocks like crazy a gravel driveway. Only 2 complaints but they are aggressive. Was very quiet for 50k miles. Toyo sucked extremely bad in mud. These do phenomenal even with a dual axle 16 foot trailer. Keep in mind the Denali also weighs 7000 pounds from the added stereo weight inside (not your average system as I have 20 grand into it). I do try to keep it a pavement princess but job sites and the land fill in the back prevented that. (Conditions like your going muddin) I hear nothing but good things on falken. The 8 ply is 12 pounds lighter per tire and been thinkin about trying it. 57.7 pounds on the at4w. Baja boss at 10 ply is 70 pounds on the mt website. Wanting to also try the new bfg ko3 but bfg shows no signs on releasing it in more sizes and customer service department is trash with any help.
67lbs vs the Duratracks at 51LBS(285/70/17). Not recommended unless you want to lose a few mpg. A 1st Gen Tacoma TRD has a noticpower loss woth these tanks mounted.
The guy that runs the shop I work with has the Baja boss mt and has 30k on them and they look freaking brand new. Idk if it would be the same for the AT tire. I have ridge grapplers now but prob wouldn't again and will most likely go to the boss mt soon
Currently running the baja boss at on my f250, i had the wild peak at3w prior to these. Both are great tires. For my truck and usage i found both handled the truck extremely well. The wildpeaks advantage was its quieter than the baja boss however i needed a tire that could handle the mud better so i went with the baja boss at. Due to construction and offroad needs while hunting. These have been able to handle it all, deep snow, mud, gravel and road manners loaded and unloaded very well. I would definitely say the at4w looks like they will handle the mud better than the at3w did and could be a happy medium. I have 30k miles on the baja boss now and still have over half my tread left. I recommend at3w/ at4w to anyone and they wouldnt be disappointed. I got 40k out of my wildpeaks and had 5/32 left. Saved them for another truck. The same goes for the baja boss at, great tire a little louder for obvious reasons but nothing terrible especially on a diesel truck. Current size is LT285/65r20 running them at 60psi and rotate every oil change
If everybody didn't think they needed these 285 wide tires they would be fine. I have a 92 dodge cummins that weighs in around 6300 pounds. 235 wide tires take it everywhere and dig down where the wider tires don't.
@@Jim-s6i3b yeah the AT3 is lighter compared to the AT4. Atleast on my size @ 35x12.5r15 the AT4 is listed at 80lbs and the AT3 is listed at 70lbs. AT4 does have a 3 ply sidewall but I haven’t seen anyone really have problems with their sidewalls on the AT3.
I really like the new staggered shoulder blocks, I think those will definitely help with off-road performance. I just can't with the weight though, the AT3W was already too heavy for most sizes. My little 4.0 Toyota can barely get out of its own way as it is, lol.
Id say it strengths are in snow, rain, gravel and road. Probably not the best or the worst in mud but that's not a bad trade off I think for most people. Mud is really seen when you are living in very rural areas or looking to go off-roading for fun.
Wildpeaks look ugly. Can't stand the tread pattern or side lug pattern. And they are one of the heaviest tires out there. Also not the best in snow compared to others. And every single joe blow and his mother has them because they buy what they see from marketing.
I have the AT4Ws on my 4runner. AMAZING tire. in wet conditions they are the best AT tire fullstop. quiet smooth ride. aggressive rugged sidewall, truly the best of all worlds.
Perfect just ordered
At3 on my 08 Yukon Denali. 18/32 tread when they were new and after 34k miles I’m down to 13/32. They have performed perfect in wet and snow/ice. 285/55r20 10ply on a 20x10 -24 moto metal. Super happy with the tires Running around 45-50 psi since I don’t tow much at all
Im 73. Im putting 4 of these on my 92 dodge cummins. I drive it less than 1000 miles a year to haul firewood. I will have to live to 140 to wear them out. Same with the truck with 220 thousand miles on it right now.
Tire rubber is unsafe to use on roads after about 5-7 years, regardless of usage. Even if you never use them, the rubber deteriorates.
Great Video! no hype no, bs, straight right to the point.
I ran through a set of AT3w's . They were great in many ways but went to a lighter Cooper tire with equally impressive performance.
Yeah if the compound is harder to achieve longer tread life that will hurt winter and cold weather performance. Maybe it has a high silica content which tends to adapt to warm and cold.
100%
So this isn’t going to be a good tire? I’m trying to decide between these or Nitto Ridge Grappler ( I used to have the old AT3 and loved them ) It’s going to be these Falken AT4 or probably Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain. I just can’t decide. I don’t think I’m going with the Nitto ( heard to many bad things )
I have just over 5k miles on them on my 21 F150 3.5L Love them on pavement, wet or dry (no snow yet), back roads or highway. Only been off pavement on dry and muddy dirt roads and they handle great. Barely noiser than the stock Wranglers and, as expected with a heavy tire, about .5 - .75mpg hit. Defenately would but again.
I have the same truck, im wanting this tire in 285/65R20 with a 2" lift. Do you think I'll have rubbing of the crash bars?
I literally just bought a new set of AT3Ws! Second set of them on my 4th gen 4runner (I got around 65k out of my last set and expecting the same mileage).
How do they ride on the highway?
I have a '23 GX 460 and am thinking these would be too aggressive for daily driving and with the added weight, it'll make it much less responsive
I bought a 23 Nissan Frontier Pro-4x and it came with Handkook AT2 and they suck in wet conditions! I'm looking for a new set asap and my neighbor has Falken and I want to know how they handle wet conditions? I had a set of Cooper Discovery's and they were awesome but load on the road! Falken and Nitto is what I'm looking at!
Same thing here! I have a Nissan Titan and I ran the AT3 before and loved them. I thought about changing to Nitto Ridge Grappler BUT read to many real reviews about people hating them in wet conditions etc and them just not performing well. I think I’ve made my mind up for the AT4. Goodyear Wrangler has an Ultraterrain At but I think I’m going to get the AT4 either this or next weekend.
Bought Falken AT3W in 2018 on my 05 gas 40K miles with 7/32 left. Just put AT4W on my duramax-Love them- 440 mile trip very nice
Which one you like more?
Thank you. These are going on my Raptor 37 tomorrow. Can’t wait. OEM KO2 have been great but load C and soft… won’t make it to 25K.
About to go through my second pair of AT3W's on my Nissan Frontier Desert Runner, its a two wheel drive but when I drove in the Tahoe snow after a couple thousand miles I was able to drive 60 mph on the snowing freeway without a problem and navigate through the snow no problems. I'm coming up on about 70k miles on this pair so they need to go but definitely were worth it every time, Im a Falken Loyal customer! Thanks for putting this review out since im on the market again.
hows stopping on ice? do they perform the same as winter tires?
I’ve loved my AT3W’s aside from having variations in quality control which required road force balancing and having a few replaced under warranty for excess balancing needed. A set of four varied from 6lbs-36lbs of road force needed. I’ll definitely give these a shot once my current set wears out. The traction, tread wear and warranty has been hard to beat.
I regret not getting those tires for my tundra, I went with the Nitto Ridge grapplers good tire, but I moved to Iowa and the Falken AT3W would’ve been way better in the snow 😐 not to mention my Tundra is a 2WD, I’ve added weight to the rear wheels and thank god Iowa doesn’t have steep roads, I’ve been able to get around. Those new AT4W look awesome, I only have 10 thousand miles on those Nittos 295/70 R18 so I’ll try sell them, to get those new Falkens.
I have BFG KO2 on my vehicle now, I will definitely be checking out the AT4Ws on my next set up!
@@nolimitbaltimore This is what I like to hear. I just got rid of my 2nd Gen Ford Escape with KO2's on it and I got a brand new Rav4. I want to put some A/T tires on it but I liked the ko2's so much I am afraid to spend similar money and get something different in fear i will just regret not getting the ko2 again.
@@nolimitbaltimore plz stick with ko2. my AT3W is nowhere comparable to KO2 in snow.
Countless tests and reviews have shown the at3w is MUCH better than the k02 in snow...and rain.
@@pete7226 Then show me one example PLZ. I trusted these reviews and spent almost 2k USD on these at3w and was sliding everywhere in deep snow while my friend using KO2 were doing much better than I did.
I think I prefer the look of the siping on the at3w. I’m inclined to think that crossing pattern would get more surface area for the siping to actually do what it’s supposed to do.
Sipes are so the tread block does not act like a single tread block. Crossing would make them too squishy.
Since I live in the SW, so more desert than snow and water I have a GX 470 what would be a better choice?
Got AT3s on my Subaru Outback, they are great in snow
I have 80,000 miles on my at3w's on my 18 f350 crew cab. Run 70 psi all the way around and still have 1/4"(8/32) of tread left. Rotate every 5,000 when I change my oil and they stand up on their own when I remove them. Going for an inspection next week and was going to put new 3w's on due to winter coming and was just told their phasing them out. I can still get them but they want $20 more per tire than the new 4's. I'm skeptical if the new tire will be as good in the snow with the higher wear rating. No BS these 3's aren't even chopped up. Hate buying first year anything till it's tested. Probably going to go with the 3's again and spend the extra cash.
I think they should make another version called the AT4L and keep the same tech and design but make it Lightweight and less durable/heavy duty so that it is better suited for people with smaller vehicles that still want the cool look and traction performance but don’t go off-road on extreme terrain. An extra 2 pounds per tire can make a big impact on your vehicle performance (acceleration, braking, cornering, mpg) on something like a Subaru crosstrek or Corolla cross or even a crv or rav4.
They do it's called an A/T4W-SL
@@elzippo488 SLs still weigh more.
It could be worse, for the Ram TRX, these tires are 10 lb per tire heavier than the OEM tire. I'm also considering making the change despite the performance losses.
Looking at the spec sheet and under sidewall stamp some say Duraspec, most say "standard", while the size I need says "HD". What's the difference?
Wonder if traction would be as good as AT3W. They changed the chemistry to get longer life with the AT4W.
I got 66k on my last set of AT3Ws. Maybe the 3s were just underrated on the mileage warranty? Now they know the 4s will just last that long? I just bought my second set of AT3Ws for my 4runner! Love these tires!
Exactly, if they expect it to last longer I'd be inclined to think it's a harder rubber which is not as good if you run into snow.
That's my next tire this fall. The 35X11.50-17 is just about perfect. C rated and it gets the 3 ply sidewall.
Falken Wildpeak A/T4W LT315/70R17 113/110S C ----- just made the purchase thx
Thanks...going to order for my Subaru CT on Monday...
My AT3Ws are really nice, easy choice for replacement, on to the AT4.
Looking at these for my 19 tundra. Not sure what size to go with. Thinking 295/70/18. Don’t want to do body mount chop. Thought about 285/70/18 but it’s only load C. Idk!
Good review. Recently put a set of AT4Ws on my Toyota.
Hows the road noise?
When ever 40x13.5R20 drops. I'd buy!. I have Maxxis AT at the moment.
Hi, Are they any good on wet tarmac, Thanks.
great in the wet
not all at4w have same specs as for duraspec and 12ply, the 35x11.5x18 dont have those specs, but my rim is 18x8 and cant do 35x12.5 i will have to compromise a few thigs and go with 11.5
I love the look but those are heavy tires. Anyone have any idea what MPG is with a stock 4Runner and the AT4W's? At some point you are trading longer tread life for gas pump pain.
I am concerned the rubber won’t be as good in snow now the warranty is 65k miles
They seem pretty confident about them, I guess we’ll have to wait to find out how they perform over long periods of wear and tear. Nonetheless, on paper they seem quite good!
I've read/seen vids saying the AT4 is worse in snow and ice than the AT3.
I wanna know how they compare to the duratrac.. my set has been a disgusting letdown when i load my truck camper on duratracs i get such a violant shaking i thought i had a loose tire or broken belt...does the falken hold the weight or r they weak as well?
I pull a 10K trailer with my Ram 3500 SRW. They are wonderful. NO issues at all. 80 psi rear 65 psi front.
I don’t know, the dreadlocks look way too close together to work really good in snow and mud. I got the Toyo open country R/T trail tire and I truly like them. They work very well in the mud, snow and ice.
I just got AT3s this year. 2500hd silverado, im running pressure low enough that im getting most of tread width to contact ground. Truck empty im at abount 60lb fronts and 40 in rear. Is that to low?
I replaced my tires on my 2017 Tacoma with AT4W's and they cant be balanced. I'll try balance beads next
HEAVY tires though. And between the at3w and at4w, it’s more like 7lbs each tire, not 2lbs. Am I wrong?
I have a question I bought this tire for a 2013 ram 1500 I know this tire have 2 side wall faces one with raise letter and on the other does not well when. I got them on non raise letters has two dot a yellow and red well when I got them install I was told that they could install on raise letters due of the dot is that about right or they were wrong
Wrong their mace to mount which ever way you desire
I hope you're not getting rid of the 3w the new one is probably going to be stiff and probably not grab on anything more miles on a tire means harder ride and not be able to stick very well
Nah you'll be fine, you worry too much LOL!
How loud are they compared to a Mickey Thompson at.?
I am. About to get the 35/11.50r17 size for a Gladiator. I think it's the best overall size. What ppl think?
I’ve had the 285/75/17 for 4k miles now. Hardly any road noise. Bout the same noise as a good all season tire brand new. I like them. They are heavy but for me with a 3/4 ton truck and towing I need the durability. If their bouncy as hell when you get them just adjust your air pressures accordingly.
My local tire shop called Falken and they told him these tires aren't in production...can't get them yet. Wonder if they dont have a preferred relationship or something. How did you all get these already?
OEM tires, they are delivered with new cars, so they have sizes made for those cars.
Man i love my AT3s but now the AT4s are 80lbs. Jeez that's alot. I was comparing others. ie: the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs and theyre only 58lbs with great reviews.
Not sure what size you are looking at being 80 lbs. Certainly not a stock tire. That is far too heavy for a stock size for even a 3500 Heavy Duty Ram, Ford, or Chevy..
My 34x11.5s are only 64-66 pounds. Your way off
What vehicle did you test the new AT4 on and why is it better than the AT3. Is the wet traction any better or worse than the AT3. Thanks.
everything I've heard, is snow and ice are worse than the AT3.
How much of a hit do you think in mpg? I have a 23 Ford F150 Platinum currently at 19 mpg w stock Hancock tires.
Mine was 6mpg.loss tires are awsome
I have the AT3W's on my Tahoe, I think hey will last forever
In 285x70x17 E the Falken weighs 9.4 lbs more than the KO3. That's a huge difference.
Bought a set a month ago for my 2011 F150 FX4. I'm disappointed in the highway driving performance. The tires require significant driver attention to keep the truck on track compared to the Bridgestone Dueller Revos I had on it previously. I have to make small adjustments as if the steering is loose. I've had the truck aligned by the top independent alignment shop in the area, and the suspension was checked, so this is not the issue. Has anyone else experienced this with these tires?
Dont they offer the 30 days trial? Where you can return if you dont like it? My tire shop guy told me about it today when i asked about them.
@@BTL3.0 Yes. i had been giving the issue a bit of time at the Discount Tire mgr’s request He said to allow time for the tire to “mellow”. He said any tires can squirm when new before the 500 mi mark, like Im experiencing, Unfortunately the 30 days passed before that distance. However I asked Falken for a concession to swap the tires for a new set to see. If that solves the problem. We’ll see if they come through
@@kdcarver hopefully they will come through for you. Seems rather annoying for sure.
@@BTL3.0 thanks. Dealing with Falken customer service has been good. Discount Tire has been the hurdle. For example, they didn’t balance the tires (found that out at a third party who was double checking the alignment). Had the balance correct but the “dead band” in the center of the steering still persisted.
UPDATE: I finally gave up on the Falken AT4Ws after 3 alignments, a balance, and a rotation. Falken provided a concession and exchanged for a Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo 3 set. Exponentially better performance on the road. The new tires feel stable and firm without being rough. I'm impressed by Falken's customer service but unfortunately they need to work out some kinks with the Wildpeak AT4Ws in my opinion. Thanks for everyone's input and thoughts.
The at4w is more like 10%ish heavier than the at3w in a given size/rating.
In comparison to KO2’s …how are they on wet?
Much better. I currently have KO2s and from AT3W experiences, I’m willing to make the switch back to Falken.
@@nolimitbaltimore ok good to know
Thanks for the info
Falken FTW
Great information Man. Thanks
Are these tires noisy?
Scale 1 to 10, I’d say 3. We can hear some buzzing, but nothing too annoying.
I want this tire but they’re 19lbs heavier than what I’ve got, EACH!
@No limit BMORE are they going to be quieter on the highway?
I’ve been interested in these tires.
Had the Toyo at3 prior. Had 5/32 left with 70k miles on them out of 13/32. Did great on dry. Was quiet. Smooth. Rain performance started taking a huge hit. Snow did pretty decent. Went a 45 degree incline with 6 inches of snow without much struggle until about 30 feet. Also started dry rotting less than a year and chunks started to be missing.
Currently have Baja boss ats. So much better in performance. 10 ply instead of 6 ply this time so they are heavier and ride rougher. I’m sure the 6 ply’s ride great. Average 1/32 per 10k miles. Currently have 90k miles on them. 7000 pound Denali and tow often as well. Do extremely well in snow. Don’t struggle at all and tested it on the same hill. Truly do phenomenal in everything except the noice is getting louder and throw rocks like crazy a gravel driveway. Only 2 complaints but they are aggressive. Was very quiet for 50k miles. Toyo sucked extremely bad in mud. These do phenomenal even with a dual axle 16 foot trailer. Keep in mind the Denali also weighs 7000 pounds from the added stereo weight inside (not your average system as I have 20 grand into it). I do try to keep it a pavement princess but job sites and the land fill in the back prevented that. (Conditions like your going muddin)
I hear nothing but good things on falken. The 8 ply is 12 pounds lighter per tire and been thinkin about trying it. 57.7 pounds on the at4w. Baja boss at 10 ply is 70 pounds on the mt website.
Wanting to also try the new bfg ko3 but bfg shows no signs on releasing it in more sizes and customer service department is trash with any help.
67lbs vs the Duratracks at 51LBS(285/70/17). Not recommended unless you want to lose a few mpg. A 1st Gen Tacoma TRD has a noticpower loss woth these tanks mounted.
Still leaning to the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss tires
Baja boss is really good but ive heard they dont last as long. Atleast from people ive talked to who have run them and also the falkens
The guy that runs the shop I work with has the Baja boss mt and has 30k on them and they look freaking brand new. Idk if it would be the same for the AT tire. I have ridge grapplers now but prob wouldn't again and will most likely go to the boss mt soon
I Found this review good, might give Falken ago. Baja boss only got to 40k kms and we’re bald, good tire though.
Currently running the baja boss at on my f250, i had the wild peak at3w prior to these. Both are great tires. For my truck and usage i found both handled the truck extremely well. The wildpeaks advantage was its quieter than the baja boss however i needed a tire that could handle the mud better so i went with the baja boss at. Due to construction and offroad needs while hunting. These have been able to handle it all, deep snow, mud, gravel and road manners loaded and unloaded very well. I would definitely say the at4w looks like they will handle the mud better than the at3w did and could be a happy medium. I have 30k miles on the baja boss now and still have over half my tread left. I recommend at3w/ at4w to anyone and they wouldnt be disappointed. I got 40k out of my wildpeaks and had 5/32 left. Saved them for another truck. The same goes for the baja boss at, great tire a little louder for obvious reasons but nothing terrible especially on a diesel truck. Current size is LT285/65r20 running them at 60psi and rotate every oil change
My only complaint with the baja boss AT’s was the weight. I could feel how heavy they were. Thats being said i have not run the falkens
Now its just a dedicated heavy duty truck tire. Defintely a no go for the Toyota 4wd gang now
If everybody didn't think they needed these 285 wide tires they would be fine. I have a 92 dodge cummins that weighs in around 6300 pounds. 235 wide tires take it everywhere and dig down where the wider tires don't.
Really like my AT3W’s but they are poor on ice.
From what we see and heard, a lot of customers have problems balancing them, QC should take care of this issue before putting them on the market!
Interesting, our technicians had no problem with them. Cheers
What’s wrong with the AT3? Why did they make the AT4 when most people already consider the a AT3 the best all terrain.
You gotta keep pushing the envelope
They added more warranty
AT3 were already heavy, now more weight? Have AT3
@@Jim-s6i3b yeah the AT3 is lighter compared to the AT4. Atleast on my size @ 35x12.5r15 the AT4 is listed at 80lbs and the AT3 is listed at 70lbs. AT4 does have a 3 ply sidewall but I haven’t seen anyone really have problems with their sidewalls on the AT3.
I really like the new staggered shoulder blocks, I think those will definitely help with off-road performance. I just can't with the weight though, the AT3W was already too heavy for most sizes. My little 4.0 Toyota can barely get out of its own way as it is, lol.
I have 85,000 miles on my AT3’s they still have some life left in them.
No doubt a disproportionate increase in price as well.
I have the new AT5 on my car. Way better cause it is a 5 and not a 4
Numbers are racist!!
Sorry, still say Falken; noted to leave you changing a tire in the middle of nowhere.
Recommend for mud ????
I don't think so.
Id say it strengths are in snow, rain, gravel and road. Probably not the best or the worst in mud but that's not a bad trade off I think for most people. Mud is really seen when you are living in very rural areas or looking to go off-roading for fun.
all of the other vids say its worse on snow and ice than the AT3.
Ill stick with my kenda klever rts, best tire ive ever owned.
Get you some Toyo Rt unless your a mall crawler of course
How do you think they would handle on a 1977 Chevy k20
in the standard load have the 3ply sidewall or just the LT
Hmmm no zig zaggy sipping like the 3s..
noticed that too
Please stop that background noise or music or whatever. It’s very annoying and distracting. Thanks for the great review.
Ok 🥹
"From Better to Best"
Not necessarily...
Goodyear NEW Wrangler Duratrac LT RT is right there...
Do they weigh 100lbs for a 33’ now?? 😂
I think we measured them at 62lbs vs 58 for the AT3w standard load
I have 34x11.5 x 17. 66 pounds
Great tire but Too heavy for my needs!
I need 5 tires in Europe..
3 months backordered from the factory
Too bad no RWL…
They aint the same price
SO if I gain weight I can just say I am now stronger?? LOL
Not in weight
AT4 is too heavy
Wow, I actually feel dumber after having watched your video.
@@BionicLesbian that’s either a good thing on our end, our a bad thing on our end
Wildpeaks look ugly. Can't stand the tread pattern or side lug pattern. And they are one of the heaviest tires out there. Also not the best in snow compared to others. And every single joe blow and his mother has them because they buy what they see from marketing.
They’re too heavy.
@@keithfreeman4015 Yes, they are heavier. For full-size trucks this is a great option, though.
THE TOYO OPEN COUNTRY AT3 IS A FAR BETTER TIRE IN ALL 8 CATEGORIES. TOYO BLOWS FALKEN AWAY .
Nah, falken has the deepest tread for A/T