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MY FIRST TIME FLYING A PIPER SENECA | TEST FLIGHT!
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
- In my search for a new airplane, I went and test flew this beautiful Piper Seneca III, afterward, I BOUGHT IT! This is the test flight, jump in and tell me what you think!
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Just so everyone knows, this was a test flight, not an instruction flight. It was just a quick way for me to go up, see it fly, and get the feel for how it handles! I have to get 10 hours of instruction in this before I can fly it (for safety and because my insurance requires it). Stay tuned for the actual instruction flights! :)
Go Piper. Happy flights and safe landings.
So are you getting a Seneca? Switching out Li`ll Red?
Hey Kay you’re at my flight school flight club 502!!
Big fan!
I did think you came across as "Super Professional" in the video. Good Job! 💪💪.
You look so at home with cockpit and cabin - hope to see you with your mum (who doesn't want to sleep anymore). 10hrs for you is nothing
Big shout out to you all.
Love your channel, I am not a pilot but live vicariously through you and other pilots who take us along for the ride. The fact that you talk to us and explain what, how and why certain things are happening is a joy. I know it’s not very exciting to other experienced pilots but to us who are not in the air, it is great. Your love of flying is apparent, I look forward to more content.
Be safe,
JB
I couldn't have said it better. I, too, am not a pilot, but love planes and flying. This young lady does a great job of helping us connect to this world.
Dad- You and mom sure raised a GREAT daughter! Congratulations!! Buy the plane, paint it red and call it "Big Red!"
They'll be happy to hear that: @ribsurd @talkwithpops
That is what I was thinking for sure! Match it to Lil Red!
God bless you Kay and Pops (and Mom). You raised her right!
Twin Red
@jimmyrosen9424 Airplane paint jobs ain't cheap! I can't imagine Pops springing for a new livery after adding N484HP to the fleet. This Seneca is turbocharged and is rarin' to go, and has horsepower in the callsign. So how about "Wildfire", after the pony in the Michael Martin Murphey hit?
@@Mike4444x
Twin Lil Red. "Fly With Kay II" or "Flying With Twin Kay" 😁. I love "Wildfire". Great song for sure. We are old...eh?
Of course, every pilot finds their own comfortable technique, but I found at first, with the turbos on the Seneca, I like to hold brakes and bring the engines up to the maximum takeoff manifold pressure (just short of when the over boost limit lights come on). Then once power stabilizes, release brakes. That way you aren't hunting, trying to equalize power while rolling down the runway. Once you get comfortable with the plane, you will know by feel and you can do rolling takeoffs.
Beautiful work ❤
Your procedure also ensures you confirm full symetrical power from both engines, before the takeoff roll. Pretty nasty to find out you don't have full power and possibly exit the runway.
That's a nice airplane. I got over 600 hours on the Seneca 2. The only thing I don't like about it is nose heavy, but you take care that with the trim, I was fortunate to work for FBO piper dealer,During Hurricane andrew, I delivered a thousand pounds of food from the West coast of florida to miami.
It has longitudinal trim? Wow!
Now THAT, is an awesome panel. Wow!! The guy in the hanger next to me has a Seneca. Now I want to go for a ride!!!
Love your new plane! 🎉
Very much looking forward to seeing you both in the air!
Its SO refreshing to watch a YT pilot who actually KNOWS what she is doing and understands the aircraft.
YT pilots who are "learning the instruments and aircraft as they fly" have paid the ultimate price for their carelessness.
darkness7800......I know who you're talking about. I agree with your assessment. It was a tragic situation for sure.
I would feel comfortable flying with Kay, she's in charge and paying attention. I am familiar with the pilot you are referring to and saw a few videos and that was definitely scary.
Yeah. It's sad what happened to Jenny (aka TNFlygirl) and her dad, due to her incompetence. It's also a shame that most of her videos were taken down, as they were great examples of what not to do.
This may just be a coincidence, but, shortly after Jenny's crash, Kay did an almost identical flight with her dad (minus the crash, of course). Now she's got a more powerful plane than her Cherokee, and, unless I'm mistaken, it has what looks like a Century 2000 autopilot in it (same one Jenny's Debonair had).
Mistakes can happen to anyone.
@@PositivelyKyleHikes Mistakes are one thing, and unforeseeable situations in the air are another. BUT when you knowingly operate an aircraft, where you are unfamiliar with the operation of that aircraft and you did not take the time to familiarize yourself on the ground (where its safe).....that is NOT a mistake. That is utter incompetency!
"So you do not go full throttle.". Little different from Lil Red. Boost and manifold pressure gauges are your new friends. Enjoy. Beautiful aircraft.
Don’t regularly comment on videos, but the seneca II and III are my absolute favorite airplanes, plenty of power and they fly really well. Now be careful with the turbos, really easy to cause damage to your engines if you get into bad habits.
After a long xcountry running 65-75% power, allow your engine to cooldown before descending. Just reduce 2” MAP every couple of minutes til you hit your desired descent power at TOD. Also avoid running the props below 2400rpm for an extensive amount of time. Our typical cruise is 33 MAP and 2400 and about 11.5 gals/h on FF, the POH is incredibly precise with its power setting table.
Don’t forget the 2 min turbo cooldown after landing (very important) and careful with over speeding the gears on take off.
My last piece of advice is, avoid flaps on take off, unnecessary drag, can be dangerous during an engine failure past your decision speed. Instead, just do static departure. Foot on the brakes, 33MP, release and get it as close to 40MP as you can and do not overboost.
I do similar with my turbo diesel vehicles, so a gentle warm up & then a running warmdown after every journey, especially when pulling off the motorway into a service station. Many people dont realise they should do this for a hot engine 😮
Kay, to answer your dad's question about the wastegates.......not in a Seneca III. On modern turbo charged airplanes (and I think the Seneca V) the wastegates are automatic, they have a pressure controller and that uses oil pressure to operate the wastegate to maintain a desired Manifold Pressure. The Seneca III has fixed wastegates. With nothing automatic, and no way to bleed off (bypass) excess exhaust pressure, at low altitudes, and the throttles open, it WILL overboost. As you figured out, you never takeoff with the throttles full forward, unless maybe at a high elevation airport on a hot day. Another type of system is manual wastegates, they have another control, almost like a 2nd throttle. You can leave the wastegates open, produce no boost, firewall the throttle for T/O. (or be ham fisted with it during training) and the engine is just like it's normally aspirated, but as you climb and start losing power, you manually start closing the wastegate and increasing your manifold pressure, Then that secondary control becomes your "throttle" at higher altitudes.
My Dad was Senior Electrical Engineer at P/A VRB 33 years on the Seneca 1 2 and 3. The Seneca 2 and 3 is a GREAT Aircraft! I only have 5 hours in the Seneca, The Piper Aire is gtrat! It was designed and built in hot ass VRB so it has got to be good A/C!! Enjoy!
Congratulations on your new Wings Kay. Best of luck. Can't wait to join you for some exciting flights!!!
Congrats, Kay! That looks like a VERY nice airplane. Counter rotating props - very cool. A big step up from Lil Red. I'm very happy for you. 🙂
You raised a great young lady you should be very proud of her.
Brilliant looks gorgeous I hope you have hours of fun flying it.
Thanks! I'll be able to go on longer trips quicker now. :)
Congratulation's on your new Piper Seneca happy flying!
Kay! Congrats! What a great plane. Love the avionics and it has A/C!!! Looking forward to some Twin Prop Vids! Blue skies and tailwinds to ya!!! 😎
This is exactly the type of airplane you need! They're safe, got an extra engine to get you back to an airport and they're stable, makes a good IFR platform. 6 Place airplane were the big door in the back and plenty of storage in the nose. I had one for many years and it was a good airplane. Yes it's double the amount of fuel you're used to using but but it's triple the safety!!! What is much XC flying as you do you should really consider trading up!!!
1983 Piper PA34 Seneca. VERY nice midsize twin. Have fun, I'll be watching.
Beautiful plane and a nice step up from the Cherokee. Glass cockpit is amazing.
You made it look effortless. A natural aviator! 👩✈️
Been waiting for this, congratulations kay❤🎉
Congrats on your new bird, she is as beautiful as Lil Red. Keep up the amazing videos.
dolt
I love your new set of wings. I also like you being the PIC, especially your absolute attention to check list details. I am a non-pilot residing in Mechanicsville, VA.
My daughhter flew the Seneca for her multi engine qualification.
SHE LOVED IT!
Looking forward to more flying in your 'new' Piper with air conditioner.
May God bless you and your father and prayers to keep you safe and well.
Never thought I’d enjoy watching someone fly a plane, but you make the whole process so enjoyable 😊! Had 2 friends with private planes and spent hours flying with them in the past (would certainly love flying with you anytime…lol). Love listening to you on the radio……you could read the phone book and I’d enjoy it! Good luck with your new plane! Stay safe ❤😊!
Bit pervy there, mate.
Another fun channel to watch is Stevie Triesenberg. She is super-skilled!
Hello !
I am a kind Swedish citizen guy. 🤗👍
I want to announce that I have a warm greeting from Sweden. 😃
I love all American citizens. 👍
I respect you and would like to like your videos and appreciate the personalities, talents and qualities of all Americans.👍
I wish you success with your beautiful flying experience. 😊
It is a really interesting, beautiful and fun experience. Bravo👍 Wowowo
Wow what a panel in that beautiful plane. I can't wait to see you get checked out in it! I hope to see as much of the multi-engine training and glass panel explanation as you can show. I feel like I was getting pretty familiar with Kays' panel in Little Red and can't wait to get familiarized with the Seneca.
My first flight in the Piper Seneca III (KCCR -> KLAS) was also bumpy… the worse turbulence I experienced in a GA aircraft.
You’re gonna love that plane. So fun to fly. It’ll keep you busy for sure
I loved Bowman field when I stopped by there. There is a residential street near the airport where you can watch planes come down the street on final.
I have seen your newer videos as I do every Saturday, and understand you bought this aircraft. That is fantastic news, and I look forward to future flights with you in your newer aircraft... Congratulations..
Congratulations and can't wait to see you flying in your new plane! It's a beauty and looks very well maintained. Good luck and you deserve this upgrade.
So awesome! I’m a student pilot. Love your channel! Happy flying!
Me too
NEVER QUIT.
I did after soloing, mainly due to lack of $$$.
I did work in Aviation Maintenance for MANY years, so I stayed 'involved'.
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman lol I just went solo a few weeks ago in a C-152...I like flying but just can't get into the study well enough to take exams for my PPL (I will have to at some point cause my dad flew planes and will kill me if I don't even give it a try lol). Anyway I thought about quitting every now and then cause it's going to take me years to get my PPL, and I'm only 20, working 3 days a week down from 5-6 days. Luckily I live with my parents so no rent, food bills etc so I feel very very lucky I have money to keep flying for now.
@@emirachelnatalie3397
NOW is the time to get your ratings. If you wait for the right time you will never get to do it. The time will come when you will have rent/mortgage payments, food, utilities and kids. You are in the right place in life to do this kind of stuff.
Smart question dad on the wastegates on the turbos. Similar to my race car and any car with turbos, the wastegates have springs with different pressures. Say you have a 10psi wastegate spring. Technically speaking the max the turbo will produce is around 10 psi (never exact). Thats why you also incorporate boost controllers to either raise or decrease boost. Theres alot of terminology with this subject but just some general information. Overboosting can be very hard on the engine if the engine doesnt have enough fuel for the extra air. (i.e Detonation). Very important to keep an eye on exhaust gas temperatures. Cheers on the new plane!!
We have that on diesel trucks. It’s called a pyrometer.
Congratulations on your new plane. I'm looking forward to seeing more videos of your new plane. Stay safe up there. Thanks again for sharing your story.
Pretty cool aircraft. I learned to fly at Bowman Field in 1981 and soloed on that runway. It was Rwy 14 at that time, now Rwy 15. A lot of familiar sights out the windows.
Interesting video ... and plane. I'm surprised Kay asked what her rotate speed was as the the plane is accelerating down the runway. V1 and VR speeds should normally be part of the pre-departure checklist.
That caught my interest too
You just had to be "that guy" let girl enjoy her new ride.
@@shawnb4027I'd rather see "That guy" in the comments, then have Kay become "That (TNFly)girl"...
Completely agree. Rolling down the runway is not the time to ask when to rotate... In a test flight, I'd also expect to be told about how to set the throttle correctly, and not assume it was just push-it-too-the-wall. I was cringing during that part. I love Kay, but that could have been better briefed... Yes, I'm 'that guy'. :)
@@johnpooky84 100% agree!
Hi Kay! I'm not a pilot, but I'm so impressed with your thoroughness and professionalism in your flying. You are a wonderful example for other pilots in training.
That's some fancy instruments.
Nice plane.
Happy flying.
Congrats on this purchse! AMAZING looking plane!
Good stuff!! Love that panel, awesome! Rock solid bird, we were Baron and 310 owners but the Seneca is so nice with the counter rotating props!
Congrats Kay!
Wishing you many happy miles and smiles in your new plane.
Wow, now you got a plane... a twin, I´m proud of you, congrats and have great flights...
Have to admit, loving that panel in the airplane. The inside is really nice too! Glad you have air condition now.
I cannot wait for you to get a multi engine plane! You will share so much fun!
My brother-in-law bought a Seneca, leased it back to the airport. When it was paid off he donated to a mission in South America and wrote off the whole plane.
I love the Seneca III, such an great plane to fly.
I Love the upgrades…. Looking forward to your new adventures,,,, Burger prices are going to double…
You have a new animal to learn there....apples and oranges as they say. good luck ..take your time and do not worry about getting out a new video in that plane....just put in the hours learning about it,,,,flying it then come the videos. do not rush just to get a vid out each week of you flying....do vids of the plane and all about it first while you put in your hours be safe is key
Safety is always my number one concern and that’s why the airplane will always come first🥰
Congratulations Kay! My dad had a Seneca. Good times and memories. Enjoy!
Wow, beautiful machine. Congrats! Looking forward to your new adventures.
I was born in Louisville and grew up across the river in Southern Indiana. When you said Bowman Field I almost fell out of my chair. Good looking plane.
Ex- New Albany ! Fun to see the area from the air, flew out of Clark county couple of times.
@281950 I am from Jeffersonville but I have lived in Houston for about 42 years. Will be in Indiana in June.
@281950 I remember flying in a small plane in the 1970's at Haps Airport when I was a kid.
I worked in Louisville for 25 years. Bowman is cool airport and lots of pretty country to see from the air. Brother in Law is CFI at Clark Regional, AKA Haps!
Can't wait to see more of this gorgeous airplane. Staying tuned in lol.
Looks like you were having fun.
Thanks for letting us come along. Really like your attitude.
Always enjoy the video
Such a delightful first flight for you. And I'm not at all surprised you ended up buying it. It's a beautiful airplane Kay, congratulations!
Good job for a test flight like that and it's a nice playing. I like that plane. It's big and parry your other plane. I think it's fantastic if you're interested in buying that plane.😊
Very nice Piper Seneca 3 small airplane turboprop.
Beautiful airplane. My first time to fly a twin was in a Seneca III. Great airplane!! Enjoy
Way to go! Hope to see your first video from the new Piper Seneca. Big transition to twin power with lots of advantages. GOOD LUCK
SEL Pilot and A&P mechanic here love seeing these videos and your progress ! loved working on the senecas back in the day but its nothing like we had, the the avionics that one has ...they did it right. Would love to see some instructional videos showing the new kids how this great modern tool will help things be so much safer. Congrats!!!
Kay is in command, ahead of the plane and as sharp as always, so we are safe. I found the glass displays very over detailed with small font, reckon they can be flicked thru to a simpler display. Heres a thought, during familiarisation period, why not have a sticky post it note on the dashboard coaming with Vref speeds, power percentages, flap settings for t/off and landing - just for quick reference?
Always wanted to fly multi-engine. Very cool.
Amazing airplane. Sounds like it’s going to be your new plane! Can’t wait for some new adventures with you flying it! Good luck.
Kay.....CONGRATULATIONS on your new plane...I grew up with Piper aircraft ...just great well built planes......I so look forward to your flying adventures ❤
Proud of you Kay! You look like a natural flying that plane!!
That Seneca looks good on you, Kay !!!
A Regional Airliner with Kay in the Pilot's seat looks better. 😉🧑✈👩✈
Only question I have is since you said you bought it, when do we get to see another video with you flying it? It's great to see you moving up! Big jump from a Cherokee 180, but a Seneca has Cherokee DNA, so a good next step. I've flown a Cherokee 6 for decades and would love to make the jump to a Seneca, but don't really have the mission to justify it. The Seneca is a Saratoga (retractable gear Cherokee 6) with two engines. It is a comfortable cabin in either configuration, lots of shoulder room.
Wow! You leveled up for real. I'm looking forward to more content in this beauty.
Congratulations on the new plane, keep up the great videos, always a pleasure fly along with you.
Kay thanks for the ride & pictures. That's a beautiful plane, Enjoy. Can't wait to see more videos of you your new plane & Mom & Dad.
What a beautiful aircraft....Great presentation again....Thank you...Roger...Pembrokeshire UK.
Congratulations on the new aircraft! You can always tell when the seller REALLY loved their plane. That is a pampered Seneca. Stay safe.
Nice twin prop Kay! Good job flying her and best of luck on a new purchase. Now cannot wait for your future video uploads. ❤
Kay is always so relaxed but very mature. I love watching her fly.❤
So glad you’re not biting off more than you can chew. Cherokee to Seneca. Seems like a reasonable step to me. Of course there was that one girl recently with her Dad who was over her head.
Congratulations on your buying a Seneca! I look forward to riding along with you on your future flights!
This is one of the only time any RUclips channel has been od the test flight for a plane they want to buy! I loved this. Thanks for sharing it.
I really like the way Piper Seneca’s fly. Lots of power, nice and smooth, relatively easy on fuel for a small twin, one of the easiest twins to fly. Very nice airplane.
Nice Plane, Enjoy it, Have fun, Can't wait for your content on this new adventure.
I did half of my multi-engine and Commercial training in the Seneca II.... and because my company the airplane, I got a solo endorsement and flew it solo to my FAA check ride in Miami (KTMB)!!!
The FAA designated flight Examiner was looking at me strange then asked how did I get there & where was my flight Instructor? WASNT NEEDED! I aced the ride and he cut it short & said ITS OK 👍🏼 you passed!
Congrats Kay to your new pair of wings! The Seneca is a dream aircraft, and 4HP surely looks like a gem with a great panel retrofit.
I'll bet Jimmy is drooling while watching this !!
Nah....he's looking at a 421C Golden Eagle. The Seneca isn't big enough for Jimmy's family. 😊
Good job. Hopefully, you can get this awesome airplane. I'm looking forward to some amazing trips.
Congratulations on your new checklists(s) ! Looking forward to hearing you read thru & go!
Cherokee 180 to a Seneca III is a huge step. Wouldn't it be safer to learn how to manage a constant speed prop and turbo on a single, prior to making this move? Light twin. Make this one an "all business" aircraft to fly. If there is some fun associated with your flights in it, then that is a bonus. More than good luck to you.
Congrats on the new ride (maybe). Kay gets a twin and Jimmy gets a twin.
What's this world coming to (get it two)! !! !!!
The purchase process would make an interesting video. Also little bits about other birds that were considered.
I saw the straight track to Houston on flight tracking, and knew you bought it. Congrats!!
Planey McPlaneFace looks like a fancy upgrade. Good job 👏
Bowman Field. Nice airport! My first CFI in the late 1970's was an F4 pilot with the KNG at what was Kentucky Flying Service. Lots of great memories. Have fun, be safe. Love the video's.❤
Ah, Kentucky Flying Service. I got my license there in 1981. Dick Malloy gave me my checkride.
@@MartyBecker Nice! I remember Mr. Malloy. I got chewed out by him one time and I returned the favor! At the time I was taking lessons, you came in to the desk, ask for a plane and they gave you the keys. They gave me the keys and so I start my pre-flight check. I am almost finished and Dick starts yelling and chewing me out for taking that plane. I came right back at him telling him that I didn't just "take" that plane, his people gave me the keys! Now he cools off and I get the rest of the story. This plane had been overhauled and had not been given a check ride yet. NICE!!! So, I go back inside and get another plane. I get half way through the pre-flight check on this plane and here comes Dick!!!!! Rinse and repeat. He starts on me again and now we are in a yelling match. It seems this plane should have been grounded for a bad alternator! I got to pre-flight three planes that day but only fly one.😂😂 I finally quit flying when one of the KFS planes got strained through the trees off the end of the runway. The solo student had an engine failure on takeoff with only a few hundred feet altitude. The guy walked away without a scratch but both wings were completely removed from the aircraft. The part that made me quit was that I had turned that plane in for a bad engine a week or two before that accident. It stumbled and tried to quit on me 3 times during landing. I wound up landing at full power with full flaps. As soon as I crossed the threshold, I cut power. Once on the ground, the engine ran fine. That was just one of several incidents and increasing cost that finally scared me off.🤣 Glad you got your PPL. Are you still actively flying?
Holy moly that thing is beautiful, type rating is gonna be fun! Good to see Pops again!
No type rating needed in the Seneca. It's less than 12,000lbs.
@@RCShadow close, 12,500 lbs
@@brianbrotherson5529
Fat finger mistake. Been flying since 87 although not recently.
Congrats, be careful, do not be afraid to ask for more dual time than the 10 hrs min. Multi engine flying is learning to fly a twin on one engine safely. Remember your weight and balance and v speed calculations before every flight. Remember your memory items and written check lists. All the best.
I already have my multi engine rating😊 A big reason why I chose this airplane is because there’s no critical engine!
All the best, enjoy your hood time with emergencies etc. Thank you for all that you are doing for aviation. Stay safe.
Go Kay, from a fellow Houstonian. I bet you have flown over my home before in Lil Red on your way to Sugar Land airport. Love your channel, stay safe, and keep racking up your hours in your Seneca, she's a beauty!
Sweet ride, cant wait for the adventures it will bring! 🎉🎉🎉
This plane is a beast. Definitely a must have. Alot to learn on this one but definitely get this.
I’ll be watching. Excited for ya!
hope you dont fly with this guy later on
Congratulations!! NICE PLANE!! Awesome!!
Great Flight and a Cool bird Kay, hope you get it! 🎉