The biggest drawback of electric cars is the battery: heavy, expensive and takes some time to charge (I know is faster as time goes by, don't shoot! :). Wishful thinking I say hydrogen, which is the best combination between the two imho.
@@bmwblog BMW is placing a bet on them, I know, but even they estimated that a prototype will be available after 2025-2027 if I recall correctly. I am not an expert on those things, but from the point of view of materials, wouldn't a tank to store hydrogen be easier and less expensive to produce? I mean, I am just having the feeling that we will gonna replace our dependencies of Vladimirs and Saudi Prince and Maduro with Xi...don't want to turn this into politics, but I would very much like that for once, whatever we choose, let's choose something that democratic world has at it's disposal. Maybe I am also wrong and there will be some really impressive breakthrough discoveries, but for me now, the future looks very gloomy 😪😪😪 Why? because I live in one of the poorest countries of EU, even tough I work for a big german international company and I am a senior in my position, I earn less than a bus driver in a small city in vest Europe, "real cars" I can afford only second hand....but with a life expectancy of the battery of 8 years, in the future I will be obliged to buy the likes of Dacia Spring or Zoe. I don't want to sound like I am living in 19th century, but I started reading auto magazines back in 1996, I "grew up" dreaming that one day I maybe will be able to drive some (and I am loving my E60 525d like crazy)...I know the environment is more important that a stupid boy's dream, but then again we are on a automotive channel, where to bitch about if not here😃😃? What would you bet on? I know you can't say much from private discussion with the engineers, but at least how do they see it? Are they confident and optimistic?
@@bogdansim3460 My bet goes mostly on battery-powered electric cars. There is a place for hydrogen cars, for sure. But it will be in smaller numbers than BEVs. That ball started to roll and it's tough to stop it now. Or at least for the next few decades.
@@bmwblog true about the momentum behind BEV - however, there are only so many buyers willing to pay high prices for more inconvenience. And in many places like Chicago, there are hard-caps on the # of BEV cars that can be sold (and thus be charged) before blackouts come into play. If consumers were offered a choice of H2 vs BEV my bet is that 99% would choose H2 - assuming there were plentiful H2 charging stations.
Hydrogen is a much better fit for people. Gas/petrol stations can be fitted with hydrogen. No nationwide electrical infrastructure needed. Also there are hydrogen internal combustion engines in development too
@@bmwblog Haven't read anything about retrofitting gas/petrol stations with hydrogen. But it's absolutely cheaper than bringing online new fast-charging stations. In Chicago, there are zero plans for upgrading electrical infrastructure; no plans for additional power generation stations either. This is an example of why hydrogen is a better fit: consumers can just buy a hydrogen car and not worry about anything.
@@harperium_3276 In Chicago also, I agree on the EV infrastructure. Not great! I counted about 10-12 Fast Chargers in the whole city. Excluding Tesla's
@@bmwblog I think the different comments and this video, summarise it pretty well : easy access and storage for consumers if the network is updated, durations and ease of recharge, I do believe one said also something about the reparations ease and cost. I would also add that in case of an accident, electrical fire are a pain to deal with.
@@bmwblog The car is lighter Fastest delivery time Unconditioned by atmospheric conditions Who thinks that electric cars are more ecological is the most naive opinion because in order to charge electricity and to produce electricity, fuels are used that pollute the environment in most cases.
@@Mike-kr5dn read many worldwide hydrogen project pdf data, green hydrogen is future, from HyICE, fuelcell, and turbine, green hydrogen is biggest project that this generation will reach, so yes hydrogen energy is future that can topple current oil, gas, and even battery.
@@Mike-kr5dn and remember hydrogen vehicles not need many battery, and even with superconductor advancement electric vehicles will become obsolete in this stage, hydrogen+fuelcell+super conductor = future of human vehicles including HVTOL
Hydrogen car or electric car? What's the future?
The biggest drawback of electric cars is the battery: heavy, expensive and takes some time to charge (I know is faster as time goes by, don't shoot! :). Wishful thinking I say hydrogen, which is the best combination between the two imho.
@@bogdansim3460 What about solid state batteries? Will that change the game?
@@bmwblog BMW is placing a bet on them, I know, but even they estimated that a prototype will be available after 2025-2027 if I recall correctly. I am not an expert on those things, but from the point of view of materials, wouldn't a tank to store hydrogen be easier and less expensive to produce? I mean, I am just having the feeling that we will gonna replace our dependencies of Vladimirs and Saudi Prince and Maduro with Xi...don't want to turn this into politics, but I would very much like that for once, whatever we choose, let's choose something that democratic world has at it's disposal. Maybe I am also wrong and there will be some really impressive breakthrough discoveries, but for me now, the future looks very gloomy 😪😪😪 Why? because I live in one of the poorest countries of EU, even tough I work for a big german international company and I am a senior in my position, I earn less than a bus driver in a small city in vest Europe, "real cars" I can afford only second hand....but with a life expectancy of the battery of 8 years, in the future I will be obliged to buy the likes of Dacia Spring or Zoe. I don't want to sound like I am living in 19th century, but I started reading auto magazines back in 1996, I "grew up" dreaming that one day I maybe will be able to drive some (and I am loving my E60 525d like crazy)...I know the environment is more important that a stupid boy's dream, but then again we are on a automotive channel, where to bitch about if not here😃😃?
What would you bet on? I know you can't say much from private discussion with the engineers, but at least how do they see it? Are they confident and optimistic?
@@bogdansim3460 My bet goes mostly on battery-powered electric cars. There is a place for hydrogen cars, for sure. But it will be in smaller numbers than BEVs. That ball started to roll and it's tough to stop it now. Or at least for the next few decades.
@@bmwblog true about the momentum behind BEV - however, there are only so many buyers willing to pay high prices for more inconvenience. And in many places like Chicago, there are hard-caps on the # of BEV cars that can be sold (and thus be charged) before blackouts come into play.
If consumers were offered a choice of H2 vs BEV my bet is that 99% would choose H2 - assuming there were plentiful H2 charging stations.
Hydrogen is a much better fit for people. Gas/petrol stations can be fitted with hydrogen. No nationwide electrical infrastructure needed.
Also there are hydrogen internal combustion engines in development too
True. But what's the cost to retrofit those? Any idea?
@@bmwblog Haven't read anything about retrofitting gas/petrol stations with hydrogen. But it's absolutely cheaper than bringing online new fast-charging stations. In Chicago, there are zero plans for upgrading electrical infrastructure; no plans for additional power generation stations either. This is an example of why hydrogen is a better fit: consumers can just buy a hydrogen car and not worry about anything.
@@harperium_3276 In Chicago also, I agree on the EV infrastructure. Not great! I counted about 10-12 Fast Chargers in the whole city. Excluding Tesla's
After speaking with a number of garage owner in my country, most of them see hydrogen as the future.
Did they give a reason why?
@@bmwblog I think the different comments and this video, summarise it pretty well : easy access and storage for consumers if the network is updated, durations and ease of recharge, I do believe one said also something about the reparations ease and cost. I would also add that in case of an accident, electrical fire are a pain to deal with.
@@MrSalyne I think there is a future for hydrogen, as we said in the review. But very very curious how it will play out with infrastructure
@@MrSalyne well this car also has a battery....
So ? No worth debating if that's your take
Can he just shut up for like 5 seconds so we can hear how a hydrogen sounds ?
They are NOT showing any pictures of the rear storage area,,,It looks like there is something that takes up most of the rear compartment
hydrogen all the away
H2 for sure
Why though?
@@bmwblog The car is lighter
Fastest delivery time
Unconditioned by atmospheric conditions
Who thinks that electric cars are more ecological is the most naive opinion because in order to charge electricity and to produce electricity, fuels are used that pollute the environment in most cases.
@@radnewiliw1330 And how is hydrogen made? From natural gas thats right. Really good for the environment.
@@Mike-kr5dn read many worldwide hydrogen project pdf data, green hydrogen is future, from HyICE, fuelcell, and turbine, green hydrogen is biggest project that this generation will reach, so yes hydrogen energy is future that can topple current oil, gas, and even battery.
@@Mike-kr5dn and remember hydrogen vehicles not need many battery, and even with superconductor advancement electric vehicles will become obsolete in this stage, hydrogen+fuelcell+super conductor = future of human vehicles including HVTOL