How To Mix Dialogue with Music for Film and Video
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2015
- I’m mixing a scene from a feature length film and one of the challenges is that the dialogue and music in this romantic scene are sort of competing with one another which makes for a rather distracting experience. To help the two get along, I ended up using a technique that almost every music mixing engineer uses all the time: EQ. I just cut some of the mid frequencies from the music track to make room for the dialogue because the mid frequencies is where most dialogue sits. And now, they get along so much more nicely. The romantic scene feels romantic!
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This is such an elegant solution to a problem that's been bugging me for an age, thank you so much!
The DAW called Reaper has a great Tutorial about how to _wire_ it to Double Duck your Audio - now when you speak the Background Music drops a bit and _soars_ back in, pro style.
Nice, thanks for that!
Curtis. Thank you for this tutorial. The essence of the conversation needs to remain clear and without distractions and this helps so much. Working with you as an audio editor for this film is awesome. Your knowledge raises the quality of the scene itself to a higher level of professionalism.
valdensefilms Thanks Mauricio! The pleasure is mine!
THANK YOU SO MUCH CURTIS!!! I was stuck on a film I'm working on. Couldn't figure out the range to EQ the music to mix in the dialogue and foley. You're the man!!!
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Curtis: you are the man! These videos are so helpful for an amateur photographer and videographer like me!
Scott Himel Thanks Scott!
This is one of my favorite and most helpful channels I'm subscribed to. Please keep up the great work :D
Zionoth Thanks!
Awesome tip! I'm usually messing with volume and high/lowpass settings to accomplish a harsher sounding version of this. Definitely going to be using this method for now on.
Har-De-Har Thanks!
Awesome, Curtis! This is the first I've heard of this. The difference is quite noticeable. A very useful piece of advice. Thanks!
DreamHouseVideosCom Thanks!
Really great tip. Your convivial presentation skills are, as always, a credit to you.
Greg Wallis Thanks Greg!
Brilliant, simple, well explained. As usual :) Thanks!
👍 Thanks!
Found it really helpful and I am very thankful for your guidance.
However, can you tell me the software you are using to do all these adjustments on your audio files. Thanks in advance :)
This a great idea. I've always had to lower the background music volume really low making it hard to hear. Some RUclipsrs like to cut the music volume abruptly when they start taking and then raise it back up when they stop. I find this this really distracting especially when you have multiple volume changes like this in a short span of time. My preference is to have background music set at a constant level. I'm definitely going to try this trick on my next video.
Harry of All Trades Yeah, that sounds a bit like sidechain compression. It was originally designed for DJs so that they could be heard in large party locations, so it's not too hard to figure that it doesn't blend naturally into the vlog style.
I really love this video. Clear and easy to understand.
I'm looking for learning material on how to mix source music for film, so that it matches the source in a believable way (a radio in a small kitchen, a car stereo, a big club).
If you would do a video on that or know of any others I would be so thankful!
Hi Jonas. I don't know of anything on that exact topic but will keep it in mind for future tutorials. Thanks!
@@curtisjudd Great, thanks for replying! Hope to see a tutorial on that in the future.
Thank you so much. I was having this issue with a client video and this helped me alot!
Josh Wrb Glad it helped!
I've found it also helps to add a good bit of compression to the dialogue track and then compensate by adding gain. This is particularly true on narration / voice-over, since you usually want the POV to be like the sound of your own voice inside your own head, and that's sort of naturally compressed. You may want to compress the dialogue of the main character for similar reasons. The dynamics processing that comes with Adobe works quite well. Very natural sounding compression.
Note that many music tracks are already compressed when you get them, so compressing the dialogue just levels the competition.
I've also experimented with automatically ducking the music, or manually varying the music during weak bits of dialogue, but this often sounds worse. You want the music to be fairly steady as an emotional foundation. If anything, I'd rather manually raise the weak bits of dialogue slightly, as long as it doesn't sound strange.
Another trick, use a high pass filter on the dialogue, around 80 Hz. This sometimes clears up the dialogue, separating it from the low end of the music. It sometimes also helps to eliminate any handling noise from the boom operator.
All good tips, thanks Dave!
I'm going to try this right now for a mini-documentary I'm working on! Thanks Curtis Judd
Jimber Jam Thanks! I hope it helps!
Just mixing my first feature with Nuendo which I am learning at the same time, plenty of experience in other audio areas but boy is it a challenge. Cannot wait to try this idea out, thanks. Got loud music and vital dialogue going on. The film's called 'Who's watching Oliver' so if you see it around see if it worked!
Good luck Alex! I'll keep my eyes peeled for it!
Extremely useful info Curtis. Mr. NOT sound guy here would like to know how I can nail exactly where the dialogue lives. Wouldn't it be different for any given scene depending on the actors voices? If so, how do I determine where to cut the sound track? Hopefully that makes sense.
***** Totally makes sense. Caveat: this is my "I'm a sound enthusiast but not an expert" response. :) I don't generally find that I need to do a lot of tweaking if I start with the EQ cut at 1.5kHZ but if I do, I simply sweep the EQ cut up and down the spectrum just a little bit or decrease the Q (width) setting until it sounds right for the actors voices and the music. My experience is that this doesn't usually require a ton of fine-tuning. My only guide is really, "If it sounds good, then it is good!"
Curtis Judd Thanks for the response, I figured that might be the answer, and I'm glad you didn't come back with the "Yes, you just press the magic 'make it all good' button you've never noticed." :)
Hey Curtis! Nice vid! I watch your vid's to get more knowledge about camera's and stuff. Thanks for doing them! I'm a music mixer by trade and I had some thots about audio mixing that NLE guys have to deal with. I've always noticed that vid people are usually less knowledgeable about audio production than us audio guys. And we, the audio guys, generally suffer in the video world :-) So, what your dealing with in this video is called "masking". We deal with that all the time in music mixing. When Im mixing, I'll generally dive into analysis pretty deep to find out what I need to do to solve masking issues. Video editors would benefit too. With a bit more info on what makes sound, it might help with masking solutions. There's also some really cool techniques, using plugins, to solve problems in production. Not sure if NLE's can do some of the techniques. If you think your viewers might benefit, we could do a online meet and discuss some things they might try when dealing with audio in film. I think it would be a fun discussion hearing about stuff you come up against in film and how to go about solving things. Take care and thanks for all your cool vid's! Best! Brad P
+brad pierce hi Brad, thanks for the note. Yes, would love to talk some time. I'll contact you directly. Thanks!
What works even better is to low pass filter some of the highs out of the music as well with a gentle slope - especially if there's a lot of detail in the high end that could be distracting to the dialogue (works great in music as well)! Even better if you can use a Mid/Side EQ and low pass the highs but setting that filter to 'mid' mode! That way you can keep the detail and high end in the music, but really carve out all the distraction from the top end and where the vocal is sitting, without just scooping where the vocals are in the music. This makes it a lot more transparent!
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I would say besides EQ a subtle side-chain compression could be very useful too.
ppractical Great point. May need to put that into the queue for a future episode. Thanks!
gold pill
Exactly what I was looking for thanks for the great and simple video
+delt2234 thanks!
Love this Channel. So helpful.
Thanks Will!
Also, a compressor/limiter can be useful to reduce the dynamic range of the material (guitar track in this example), so the peaks don't get too loud.
Ati Shephard Great idea, thanks for that!
Great tutorial! I have always struggled to get my music right with my dialogue. Thanks for the help!
EDIT: I was playing around and noticed that sometimes when instruments such as high pitched wind instruments dip between frequencies, you can tell because all of a sudden the instrument will get really loud or really quiet. Should I adjust the width of the marker for a smoother effect? Thanks!
***** Thanks Sam, interesting catch on the wind instruments! I'd definitely experiment with the width of the cut. You might also turn on the spectral frequency display in the view menu to help figure out where most of the music and dialogue energy sits and use those as a guide to determine where and how wide to cut.
Very useful technique! thanks!
You bet! 👍
Fantastic Curtis - thanks!!
DKlarations Hey, great to hear from you again. I hope all is going well!
This was so helpful! Thank you!!
Thanks Skully!
I have a question about compressors and eq plug ins, do you use it on the single tracks or on the sub mix/stems?
I usually use them on the isolated tracks first. If there's still a need on the mix, then I'll apply it at the end.
Hey Curtis!
I hope to set up a basic studio for video and photo work out of my two car garage.
I already have access to my own DSLR, Zoom H1 and various microphones. I plan to purchase a white or black backdrop for a professional look. In addition, I hope to light this backdrop with 5600K daylight balanced CFLs (and a reflector).
Do you have any tips for good acoustics? Also, what specs should I look for in a bulb? (Wattage, etc)
Thanks for the great videos,
I've learned so much!
Tim Fryer Hi Tim, here are an entire collection of videos that you might find helpful for these questions:
Lighting: ruclips.net/video/mVIzzGBeK0w/видео.html
Sound: ruclips.net/video/xWmo5jlH3FI/видео.html
Everyday I learn something new from you.
Thanks!
In the space of seven years since this was produced Curtis there has been software developed called TRACKSPACER that also scoops out a space for dialogue. It would be good to compare the software versions.
Thanks for the tip.
Hi Curtis, can you help me?
I've search some film open session's for training dialogue edit and process skills.
Do you know any place where I can find some stuff like that?
Thanks
Hi Kalleb, in my audio playlist there are a number of free tutorials on processing dialogue: ruclips.net/video/VcMOBrdbHgk/видео.html
I also have a paid course that goes into much more detail over at school.learnlightandsound.com
Good luck!
Hey Curtis, great video, I think you answered this before but I can't find it: what lavalier mic do you use for making your videos?
Cody Clarke Hey Cody, I have a few favorites, most of them are covered in this playlist. If I'm using a recorder with XLR inputs, I like the Audio Technica AT899 or the HMNSound Microlav (though this one takes a while to arrive as it is custom made and ships from Thailand). If I'm using a recorder or wireless system with a 3.5mm input, I like the MicJ 044 on the budget end. Recording to smartphones, I like the RODE smartLav+ and another one I'm testing right now that holds a lot of promise is the Noyce Labs One (review forthcoming). I'll also be getting the RODE Lavalier in for testing later this week.
ruclips.net/video/eIIbmA7pdGw/видео.html
Thanks a lot, man!
This saved my day again.
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Hey may i ask something stupid?
Should I change mono dialogue file in to stereo in Pr?
Or should I leave it to mono?
Thx mate
Hi Sirayuth, I leave mono audio clips mono unless I need to pan them to the left or right.
Powerful and simple
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Hi Curtis,
I've noticed you refer to LUFS in relation to audio. What is this and how does it relate to dB and dBm?
Thanks in advance. Adam.
Nutcracker Films Yes, LUFS = Loudness Units Full Scale. Whereas decibels are typically used to refer to a specific sample on or peak on a waveform, or are sometimes averaged in various ways in an attempt to represent the overall loudness of a clip of audio, LUFS is another way that the industry is now using to measure the loudness of an audio program. It is a more sophisticated way to represent the overall loudness of a clip or program with a single number. For example, it takes into account silent passages so that they do not overly affect the average value. We put it to use in this episode (if you haven't already seen it): ruclips.net/video/VcMOBrdbHgk/видео.html
Thanks Curtis Judd for that insight into LUFS.
What a great idea!
The credit belongs to many audio engineers before us. :)
If using the built in Audition EQ, use the Notch EQ.
I learned something useful today. Thanks!
ScrubPuppy Glad to hear it, thanks!
great video thank you!
Thanks
Sorry, I'm new here. But what's your opinion on using Adobe Audition for sound mixing and sound editing? Is it better to use video editing software to put focus on the film or is audition a better program for it because it gives more audio options? Also, how do you get your video to play back in audition?
chorkiel I prefer Audition because it has some off-line tools that are not available in editing apps. For example, loudness normalization can only be done to broadcast standards off-line, meaning that you cannot just drop a plugin on the track that processes the audio in real-time. Instead, the plugin must evaluate the entire track before it makes its changes. In terms of playing back video, it is just one of the options in the window menu, and you drop your video track into the multi-track window. helpx.adobe.com/audition/using/importing-video-video-clips.html
Thank you very much! I'll be certain to try it then.
Curtis, what have you been told should be the basic db level for dialogue in film...I am working on my audio now for my feature, and I have been putting trying to get those levels to sit around -12.
Is this right? ..I know when I did commercials for our local tv station we kept them around that level on dialogue.
Hi Jeff, I would use a loudness meter and target -24 LUFS (or LKFS) for the overall levels.
Curtis, nice video. I'm in post on a short film using Adobe Pr, Au, and Sg (CS6), and am interested in your experience/workflow in doing Audio post in Au. I've found when I bring my DSLR footage into Au from a Premier sequence, that it doesn't play smoothly (admittedly, Au is doing a LOT already, but this is before any effects, plus, Pr can do both smoothly). Experimentation shows that if I reencode the video to a much lower bitrate (~1 Mbps), then it will play smoothly in Au, which I feel is necessary to really cut sync accurately. But that's just another step and defeats the purpose of Dynamic Link. I'm curious if you've found the same, and your solution.
Also, I'm most curious about what you do AFTER you cut/mix in Au to get your movie back together. I understand in Hollywood, they'd merge picture/sound back to tape as a printmaster, or other means, depending on final output format (i.e., film/digital). What did you do for this film? Is there a way to get the (processed) Au tracks back into Pr as they appear in Au, or do you have to mixdown to a single file and import that file back into Pr to lay against your picture (I expect the latter)?
Just beginning Dialog edit now and soon to Foley/FX and final mix and would like to get any insight I can before I get to deep so I know where I'm going.
Cheers!
Great question Shane. In this film, I'm only the sound mixer so I asked the editor to send me an OMF file with all of the audio embedded, as well as a small res cut of the picture. We do this one a scene by scene basis. I make all of my edits in audition, routing all of the dialogue, foley, and music to their own stereo buses. Then when I'm done with edits, I bounce each of the buses to a stereo track and deliver those back. We'll need to do a final pass on the audio for mastering but we'll probably only need a few plugins on the master audio track to manage loudness and clipping.
I haven't run into the issue you cited but admittedly, I don't generally use dynamic link these days. Big projects usually go to OMF and my personal projects are cut in Final Cut Pro X so there's not dynamic link there.
I have run into some stability issues with Au with large projects, but usually just at final mix down. I get around that by bouncing the buses and just saving those off. I may need to look into ProTools at some point.
Cool, thanks Curtis!
Hi curtis, just need expert advise. I am mixing audio for a short film for first time. Need guidance regarding the levels(dB) of : 1.vocal/dialogue 2.Background Score/music 3.folley /sound effects. And what should be final levels or volume of master track (db).
Hi Dr. Shah, I would mix the dialogue, music and effects so that they sound right - use your ears for this. Then when you have finished the mix, loudness normalize to -16 LUFS if the film will be shown online, -23 LUFs if the film will play in theaters. You can find out more about loudness normalizing here: ruclips.net/video/-J1v0bdji6c/видео.html Good luck with your mix!
I do not use premier pro how to do -16 LUFS ot -23 with audacity
Unfortunately Audacity does not have loudness meters. But you can use the same free plugin we show in Final Cut Pro X in this video with Audacity: ruclips.net/video/xgDKF5Rjj7s/видео.html
Am I crazy is the audio in sync? it may be my system . This is not criticism of this chap. This guy is a pro and Knows his stuff
At the beginning of the video ?
Might be, but it looks pretty close over here.
Thanks allot Curtis!!
Dror Levi You're welcome!
What logiciel you use ?
Plugin?
Thanks for the tip :)
Nice and helpful information. But may I suggest you to use a de-esser for your narration for these videos? My brain is killing me!
Yes, thank you.
thank you soooooo much for the video
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what software are you using
In this episode I used Adobe Audition and Izotope Ozone. Most of my processing of clips is done in Izotope RX and most mixing in Audition. I've used other DAWs as well: ProTools, Reaper.
Awesome tip!
haveyourownshow Thanks!
Sir please tell us which software is affordable, good .
DaVinci Resolve and Audacity are free.
@@curtisjudd thanks sir
what software did you use bro it looks nice
+BROTHER-WARS audition and izotope Ozone (the EQ plugin)
Great trick indeed.
whenever i just record audio and put it with music, audio doesnt look at all professional. what to do for making dialogue more professional.
Hi! I'm sorry but I do not understand your question. Is the issue that the music is too loud for the dialogue?
music does not match with my short film's dialogue, as it looks pretty synchronized in movies. so how can i make my movie's dialogue more professional and match them with background score ? thankyou for replying me
For syncing sound, see this: ruclips.net/video/f8wan7tZu_I/видео.html
For scoring a film, I'm not an expert, unfortunately. But it appears that Hans Zimmer has a new masterclass.
What volume do you typically mix music at? Assuming dialogue is 100 what would percent would music be? 75%?
+Shawnee Union I usually pull music down to about -18 dB and do an EQ cut like shown here when I put it behind dialogue. But it depends on the music. Some needs to be pulled back even more, some less.
Thanks for the tip Curtis! Greatly appreciate it.
Thank! you for this video,
WickedMo13 Thanks!
WHAT ABOUT SUB 40HTZ OR LOWER IN YOUR MIX.
So I mixed my short film first by keeping dialogue at around -12db, and my music is some times louder depending on the scary movements, However, the sub 40hrz and lower I seem to be struggling with.
I plan on putting this in film festivals but knowing full well that sometimes people will have a sub woofer and other not. So where would the sweet spot be without killing people in a theater with sub info or on the other end, loosing the power of the sub in very specific spots of my video that would loose its impact with out the sub.
I am mainly concerned about sub being too loud in theaters or too quiet if people do not use subs.
Hi Jeff, great question and unfortunately, I don't know the answer to that. My guess would be to mix for a sub and just let it fall where it falls in theaters without a sub.
@@curtisjudd yes but even mixing with a sub, im not sure how loud I should have the sub when mixing, I tend to leave it half way in volume. And the odd thing is, even without clipping the meter, it seems the sub can be way over powering in your mix, and not show yellow or red...it seems a bit ominous in the mix and makes me a bit uneasy not knowing it it will be too loud or soft in a theater. Hmmm, maybe theaters have a automatic compression if the sub pushes to much bass
@@commercialand I don't use a sub for mixing so I don't know the details, but there should be a process where you calibrate the sub levels relative to the main speakers.
Wonderfully lucid. However, can one add background music to a simple video with voice over using Windows Movie Maker? This program allows you to record a narration but that produces a file which must be added as music. Once this is present, how add some music to heighten the atmosphere without totally replacing the voice? I have some sea sounds, but I wanted to put some of Bach's Toccata underneath. It is The Tempest, opening sequence, for a school. Just to give them the flavour of the thing...
+Martin Smith Hi Martin, I am not familiar with Windows Movie Maker, unfortunately. Anybody else out there have experience with this and could help Martin?
Thanks for your prompt answer. Adobe Audition seems to be a tool for professionals but looks a bit daunting, also costs 20 dollars a month...Movie Maker came with the computer. I suppose I could try and mix the voice and music separately...with some other program?
+Martin Smith yes, Audacity is free and can do the job nicely: www.audacityteam.org
where can i download that 3rd party plug in is it imp ?
That one is pretty pricey - it is part of Izotope's Ozone mastering suite. You can do the same thing with the Parametric EQ built in to Audition and Premiere Pro. The reason I used it is that the graph is a little easier to see for the tutorial. Functionally, the Parametric EQ in Audition will get the job done just as well.
thnk u sir...if its nt too much would like to see a tutorial on pre fader nd post fader ,
nd about creating a bus.. nd thnks for the tutorials they'r helping me alot... :)
You're welcome and we will look more at mixing in future episodes, including pre/post fader and busses.
thank you so much! :D
+Claudio di biagio You're welcome!
which software you are using Mr Curtis.
Adobe Audition and Izotope Ozone. But you can do everything we covered here with almost any audio editing app (Audition, Audacity, etc.)
Thank You so much for reply Sir Curtis. I sent this request to 8 people on youtube you are the only one who actually replied so thank you so much again.
i am a stock broker and the which is i want to do in my rest time is making films.
I have canon eos 700d the problem which i am facing right now is low quality of dialogues.
How i can improve the dialogues and sound quality.
I am interested in art movie in which shooting location dialogues are vary important in dubbing artist became unable to maintain the emotions in voice so sir is it any option for this which is not so expensive.
Hi Ankush. There are many free videos on my channel on how to record better dialogue and I invite you to have a look at the Audio and Sound for Video playlist: ruclips.net/user/curtisjudd
I also have some more focused, in-depth paid courses available over at school.learnlightandsound.com
Best wishes!
which SOFTWARE DID YOU USE?
Adobe Audition and Izotope Ozone. However, you do NOT need Ozone, you can just use the Parametric EQ included in Audition. I used Ozone because it visually illustrates the technique more effectively. The results are exactly the same with the Parametric EQ included with Audition.
Thank you so much! this helped allot :)
Which app
Any video editing app or digital audio workstation app can do this.
thanks that helps a lot
You're welcome!
Good tip for beginners. It would also be great for beginners if you explained how to use the spectrum analyzer to see exactly where to cut the mids on the music track. More of a teach a man how to fish sort of thing.
stylz1 Thanks for the feedback!
Which software are you using?
Adobe Audition and Izotope Ozone EQ. You can use pretty much any audio editing app.
Currently I am using nuendo 4.. But it shows error when I import any video file
Hmm, I wish I could help but I'm not familiar with the details on how Nuendo works. May be best to give their support an email. Hopefully they can help you through it. Good luck!
Curtis Judd I'm going to school for music a lot of sound engineer's use ozone for mixing and mastering
Yes, and for good reason. They're very powerful tools.
Thanks for the video and information.
2 things...
1. This video could have been 2 mins long at very most.
2. I see you're just using someone else's preset plug-in(Izo..?) Why not show how you can do it without their preset plug-in and just using native AA tools? I think it would be easier for others to follow along and see how better to do what you're doing when their work space looks and ACTS the same as your.
Just my 2 cents..
GoVicarious Thanks for the feedback.
thank you for all the tut's
What are your suggestions for using music with vocals under dialogue? Best to avoid it?
Good question Eric, yes, I usually try to avoid it.
How about using the vocal part for the transition and then moving to the instrumental part during the dialogue?
Definitely worth a try.
Thanks for the advice!
Great example, that music is REALLY hitting the exact same area as the dialogue
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Excellent technique. However, the highs in the background music still distracted me. Perhaps a different choice of music would have worked better.
Well, but the music sounds worse though, there's gotta be another way
Alan Smithee It is a tradeoff at some level. You can also use a side-chain compressor to essentially "duck" the music during the dialogue but that can get messy sometimes. Totally open to others suggestions. :)
What about side-chaining an EQ instead of a Compressor?
That's an interesting idea!
Curtis Judd Thank you!!!!
@@wallycastro3 Multiband Sidechain. Its a lot more natural and subtle if done right
If you could use a de-esser on your voice for this video, it would've been soothing to our ears.
Thanks.
The "cut a hole in the music" does work pretty well most of the time I find! I use the parametric eq built into audition.
When dealing with audio I usually check this excellent reference vashivisuals.com/5-eq-audio-for-video-tips-for-filmmakers/ because it both has recipes as well as clearly telling you should listen if the recipe works for your particular audio. I was under the impression I've gotten that very link from you Curtis, since I've gotten so much else helpful audio wise from you :)
randomgeocacher Thanks, some great info over at vashivisuals. I'm flattered that you thought I may have recommended it. :) The frequency chart was really helpful for me to start to recognize where various "things" tend to fall on the frequency spectrum.
agreed
Thanks for the feedback but agreed with what?
Curtis looks like James Blunt.
Ok.
Step 1: Lower the dialogue until I can't hear it or follow the plot of the movie at all.
Step 2: Turn up the music and sound effects so loud that as soon as something happens my speakers blow up, and I spend the rest of the movie praying for it to be over so I can give it a terrible review.
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Nolan and Hans Zimmer shouldve watched this before making Interstellar. Lol
ascortjkk Haha!
i like your video but most of the time i get disappointed when i see you using plugin. So what's the point to watch your Audition tutorial if i need to buy another plugin?
Ray Han The EQ programs built in to Audition work exactly the same for these purposes as the one he is using. I understand what you are saying if it had to do with a feature specific to the plugin, but these are general concepts that can be applied to just about any EQ in any editor. :)
Ray Han Yes, Sam clarified, sorry for the confusion on that. You can use the built-in parametric EQ plugin that comes with Audition. I was hoping to teach the concept so that anyone could do this with pretty much any audio editing app but I see how that may not be clear to everyone. Thanks for the feedback!
The problem with background music drowning out the dialogue is the person that's doing it hard of hearing
Ok, thanks Dave.
No way this is an effective method for mixing dialogue with music - you're effectively destroying the music mix to allow some dialogue to "pop" through. Just use side-chain compression, or mix at more appropriate levels!! I'm speaking as both a video mixer and a composer. (As a composer, much, much time is spent perfecting our mix, so why destroy it?)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Oliver, it's great to get input from a composer and mixer. Side chain compression is a more sophisticated way to do a similar but slightly less imposing thing if it is done well, but that is a fairly sophisticated thing for much of the audience here. Ideally, the music would be composed and mixed so that it doesn't compete with the dialogue from the start and wouldn't require this EQ or even a lot of side chain compression.
Very true - and good point! Love your videos Curtis!
The problem with background music drowning out the dialogue is bad producing watch your movies see what kind of crappy job your sound guy did
Ok, thanks.
@@curtisjudd Nevermind, Curtis. You shared some useful knowledge. That other guy only shared some useless hate. You win.
The video is helpful, perhaps you should drink more water or something while talking because the clicking and sticky sounds in your voice are kinda irritating and takes the focus away from what you're saying.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
get to the point!
Yeah, learned that lesson a long time ago. Thanks for the feedback. My newer videos get to the point more quickly.
Many Thanks. Sound effect have same process?
Yes