Audio Post Processing for Videos
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Everybody's asking, so here ya go.
My favorite post processing steps...
1. clean up background noise
2. limiter
3. compressor
sometimes de-reverb is needed
sometimes de-esser is needed
sometimes EQ is needed
but the main ones are the first 3
If the audio is recorded correctly, EQ isn't needed. I don't use EQ very much.
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Adobe Audition
Accusonous ERA
Izotope RX
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I’ve worked with audio for over 30 years. Like Markus says and I completely agree . It’s a moving target. Recording, mixing & processing. No 2 projects are ever the same.
Is it a ridiculous idea to ask you if we can agree that this audio programme is very similar to talk radio and also that eadio sound has been/is the reference point for professional quality that doesn't induce ear fatigue due to harsh highs and uncontrolled lows?
Please compare this to BBC news or german or danish talk radio and you'll hear for yourself that beautifully balanced sound made to sound good across many speakers.
I respect and like Markus and also buy several of the supplements he sells. This post-processing however, sounds harsh across all systems, although intelligible.
@@alexalexxis170 Most radio jockeys don't do much processing, maybe a single channel strip sometimes or nothing at all. The radio sound is mostly a combination of the multiband limiter such as the "Orban Optomod" that is used to feed the tower that really gives radio its sound. 90% of people are watching with their phone or their iPad so you have to make the proper adjustments to compensate for that.
@@alexalexxis170 Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead listening to BBC News, and yo no hablo Germanio or Denmarkio.
One thing I would add as someone who has worked on major label records for over 20 years. When mixing (post processing) audio it's best to not work on it after a long day because your ears will fatigue and you won't even notice. We never mix a record after spending all day recording (tracking) it. We always star fresh the next day. Work on audio as early after you wake up and monitor at low volumes. Your ears are at their peak performance after a nice rested long sleep. Audio work isn't sorcery it's just finding what works for your voice/sound and years of experimentation.
"Don't depend on technology to save your ass..." Love it! And I totally agree. Tell it like it is, no hold punches. Great series and I'm looking forward to the next video.
0:09 at least 80% of audio is done before processing (no magic)
2:35 audio processing for 95% of people vs audiophiles
3:50 where to start; presets
4:10 built in audio processing, plugins and apps
4:46 auto fix options in apps
5:18 workflow: step 1 clean up background
6:08 record extra background sound
6:30 step 2 limiter, under -3db
8:00 echo and reverb
8:25 compression
10:45 the listener hardware and preferences
12:07 What are your settings Markus?
Thanks for the masterclass again Markus! 🙏
I would like to learn more about cleaning up the background. What plugins you like, what you listen for and how you clean up the background. Knowing what you do gives me more information that what I have now.
As physicist I always say "Get the best raw data possible" and I this is the same for video/audio - your video confirms my basic idea!
And thanks a lot for directing me away from "tech" to the "story" ... this is very helpful to reduce wasting time with new stuff but concentrate on stuff I own and learn to handle it properly.
Confession. I saw a video of yours from ages ago and thought "this dude is too flash/wealthy/coiffured ;) for a simple country boy like me" and I moved on.
I'm so glad a came back. I have been setting up a little studio here in New Zealand and all of your latest videos have taught me something valuable I didn't know before.
I can see these take a long time to do (maaan, that mic test!) . Thank you.
Absolutely, do it right in the first place. There are NO shortcuts. I live by this rule. Learn and do it right. Appreciate your vibrant sharing.
Thanks for the rant in the beginning! As an audio producer I can shout AMEN at that! 🙏
I've been doing it all wrong, with varying degrees of failure. You completely resolved my roadblocks. I was placing mics wrong, I was using a limiter wrong, compressor wrong etc.! You're the swellest down to earth splainer there ever was. Story: as a kid, I lived around people in the music biz, studios, recording sessions etc. and didn't have the presence of mind to comprehend the value and experience it the right way . Don't get me wrong, I learned and knew, and could hear (like in your content) the difference, learned there was a difference between good and bad devices and good and bad recording practices...been scolded for behaving in a non-conducive manner in the 'environment' ..more than once. Big thanks Markus.
I like to splain 😊
In a professional recording studio there are always a pair of inexpensive car speakers mounted in boxes. You mix the the album using the $3000 each studio speakers but you mix the single on the car speakers because that is how most people will listen to it.
I love what you are saying! So true, so real. I you want to be good at something, there are no shortcuts. Looking forward to every upcoming video from you, Markus!
50 years in broadcast media...most of that time in radio. We always laughed at TV people for how awful their sound was. Then about 22 years ago I started dabbling in video and soon discovered that most video professionals considered audio manipulation to be some kind of sorcery. All I could do was laugh, since I found all the complex matters concerning video to be far more complex than audio, which always came easy to me. Marcus is right here. But I would add one thing: Your ears are going to HEAR things differently from one day to the next, from one month to the next, from one year to the next. Maybe it's the variance in barometric pressure, or just the amount of salt in your diet, I really don't know. But your ears and your brain process sounds differently over time. I've processed my own voice tracks one day and felt like I never could get the sound quite right, and then a week later they sounded fine. Or I processed a voice track until it sounded and felt perfect, and then I come back to it a month later and it sounds shrill and annoying. What I have learned as a voice talent over the years is that whatever "processing chain" I think I need to use to sound my best will be different in six months or a year from now. So I'm constantly tweaking it. So if a client that I'm working with just wants me to record a pick-up line and they intend to splice it into something I recorded last year, I'll tell them I'd rather just re-cut the whole thing, because something I record today may not match up with something I recorded a year ago. Audio tends to be a moving target. And as much as I would like to believe that once I get the perfect sound for my voice, experience tells me that my perception of it will be different later. So just expect to be constantly tweaking and revising your processing chain as time goes by.
I totally think that my diet impacts my hearing , it is crazy !
If I could add one thing - you accommodate to a sound you work on. Pretty common issue during mixing. Sometimes you need to take a break and "look" on your project with a fresh ear to catch something which you would rather not hear doing all the stuff at once. Doesn't necessary mean you need a year, just a reasonable break. But yeah, the sound you make, change over the years. It's also constant pursuit for doing thing better and better. But our point of view changes as well
Our brains are polluted with an excessive amount of artificial, high-intensity sounds. Two hours in the forest and my hearing gets appropriate perspective, other senses too.
"then I come back to it a month later and it sounds shrill and annoying" Yeah thats why its good practice to take short breaks where you can. To "rest your ears". It sounds counter productive but it helps your ears re-adjust to what you are listening to. make a coffee, walk around for 5 mins, anything that gets you away from over listening to something often helps. But unfortunately if you have a tight deadline, that can be hard to do.
You only need ear cleaning every 6 months.
Markus i love how honest you are and tell it straight up Facts! people just want the "Easy Fix" just do this and just do that easy peasy and DONE! nope it just doesn't work that way lol. i love this Channel cannot wait for more from you sir.
Hey Markus! Excellent video, in my mind the most important one you've made so far. Not just in this series, but in all the videos of yours that I've watched so far. There is no panacea, silver bullet, magic potion, juju-juice, whatever. Art takes time and effort, and you can only afford a bit of laziness when you've done your bit to get to know the few "shortcuts" in your craft. In order to get to bend the rules, you first need to know them intimately. I really enjoyed this series and the (sometimes brutal) honesty behind your advice. Love it!
On the other hand, they already made perfectly good audio recordings 90 to 100 years ago.
Markus, another fantastic video. Thank you for your dedication to us, your viewers to share all your experience and explains in just a clear way.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The best part of this video, for me, is seeing the sheer chaos of icons that is Markus's computer desktop.
Nice lighting setup . I like it when natural reverb disappears when You are intimately close to the lens. Don't read too many comments, relax and make us happy with the new SOUND episode.:) O! and I am an audiophile, instead of listening to crapy compressed youtube audio I rather connect my valve amps to decent analog or digital sources. With average headphones to a soundcard, You sound terrific!
I love your honesty, Marcus. Whether it's your health channel, or this one, telling people what they need to hear rather than what they want to hear is very rare these days, when feelings are more important than the reality around us.
Please keep doing what you are doing, and know that both of your channels have added value to my life.
I do still want one of those Schoeps shotguns. I know you can get fantastic audio with less, but man, it sounded spectacular.
Thank you
Ok, just my opinion here... maybe it's just me but when I watch your audio videos and you play the unprocessed audio it never sounds all that great, but then when you reveal what it sounds like when it's 'processed' it sounds phenomenal! Maybe it's my headphones (I do have Sony professionals...ha ha) or speakers, but I don't think you realize how much better your audio sounds with your little compression layering technique and your choice of plugins and even you mentioned using a multiband compressor. I know you like to encourage using presets and fiddle around, (I'd do more of this if I had the time) but still I'd love to see an in depth video walkthrough on your compression technique from the ground up. I know all voices sound different but I think I could learn a lot just judging by how it's affecting your voice. I know you say everything is important (mic, recorder, room, etc) and I agree to an extent but I still contend that your compression techniques (you didn't mention EQ so I guess you don't use it) are 50% of what makes your audio sound so good. All the cheap mics and recorders in your previous videos sounded great once you did your post processing tricks. That's why people on youtube were awaiting this video so much. I don't want a magic setting, I just want a complete understanding of the technique (with examples). So, my take away is that it's the VST plug in compression technique that is really the secret to your great audio more than anything. That's just how I hear it. Oh and thanks for the -3db tip.
This comment is exactly what I was thinking. I want to learn. But we learn from what others do. Your audio is fantastic. I record good audio, but like what your audio sounds like. I also would like an in depth example of how you work with a project. I didn't want a magic one button solution. What I want is to know what you do to process your audio. You don't need to give me the numbers, but explain what the settings do and why you use them. I love your audio series and I understand that it is all the elements that make good audio. But one element you use is post processing. Knowing what plugins you like and your process is a great foundation to build upon. BTW, I listen to your audio on a pair of desktop computer speakers. Thanks.
@@sidestreetvideoproduction7278 One thing I think he is trying to convey is exactly what he said, but it might be stated a little harshly in this video.
I have watched like 30 long audio processing videos that go over livestream, podcasts, voiceover, and RUclips videos and they are ALL DIFFERENT!
And they all use totally different brands of microphones, some use usb, some use Xlr with an interface, and they all use microphones with different pickup patterns in totally different rooms and environments. Some are live-streaming them gaming in their bedroom and others are in totally sound treated professional recording booths or rooms.
I mean it sounds curt, but what he said is totally true. Each person’s voice sounds totally different, each microphone sounds totally different with each voice, each room, and each project has totally different needs.
You EXPECT compression on a RUclips video and you AVOID compression for voice over work because that’s not your job, and indoors and outdoors and live versus mastering prerecorded tracks are all totally different project to project or voice to voice.
So I actually think the philosophy of tinkering he just conveyed IS the secret to good audio. Because he had hundreds of microphones and audio recorders and cameras and cables and EVERY single recording needs a TOTALLY different approach to the audio recording and the post production. Even he makes MULTIPLE mixes from multiple microphones and blends that to get his final tracks.
So I actually understand why he said what he said, although I also understand wanting more. But how could he possibly cater a lesson to any particular set up if everyone has different equipment, projects, and voices? He has an artistic style not a technical technique to teach, because he goes by ear. I guess everyone would have to play with their own voice and equipment at different times of day to get their voice and settings locked in, but the next project would still need its own personal attention and a different mix.
Well put. Thank you. 👃
Markus you told them the truth and you can't do it on just one button LOLOL....so right ON....looking forward to your next video.
Markus, you're absolutely spot on. I work in radio and voice over and everything you said I totally agree with. Also you can listen to something you recorded, for example at night and it sounds great then the next day you go back and it sounds like crap.
Regards, Tim in Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪 😊
I feel like you yelled at me like my eighth grade teacher at St. Luke’s in Lakewood Ohio. And I loved every minute of it.
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@@MarkusPix lol
I once read, Roy Baker (Queen) kept a small transistor radio speaker ontop of his sound mixer. After all the fancy recording and mixing he wanted to hear what it would sound like on the radio. I must admit, listening to Queen in Mono, it's field of depth is incredible... the drums hit you hard, fall back softly, then hit you again! (Radio Gaga)
I know now how to use a limiter! You're fantastic for the community . Thanks
i Actually worked for 1 year in a production house in their Audio department, Sound Studio. learnt a lot about audio from their and now working as an editor and youtube creator, i use those learnings . My workflow is very similar how u explained. Thanks fr making this video to explain how things actually works.
Finally a person that is willing to admit that anything that could by great takes planning to get to that level of possible greatness. It does not magically happen
You're aman after my own heart, Markus. It's as if people want to acquire a skill, much as they might the latest fashion or gaddget. Acquisition of this kind requires actual learning and a willingness to use one's ears. That, in its turn, requires something called effort.
Markus, thank you for providing this video! The one complement I always think watching your video’s is how amazing your audio sounds. You always have a no bs way of explaining anything camera, and appreciate the time you spend making content like this.
Thanks Muddy
I never expected a templete from you, really. I kind of knew what this video was going to be like because you are honest and very straight forward. But still, I got lots of great info from it. You're the man!!
You are the greatest Markus. So generous with your knowledge. Appreciated bro.
Used to work with a director whose fa favourite phrase was “we’ll fix it in post”. Do it right on set/location or you will waste a lot of time later. Be a pro.
OMG I had no idea what the compressor did and never bothered after playing for 5 secs one time and not knowing WTF I was even doing. I just played with the multiband compressor in the studio version of resolve, making my cheap condenser mic sound like a pro boom mic. I recorded it well in the first place, but what a difference playing with the compressor made. I still don't know what I'm doing on a lot of knobs, I just know it sounds much richer and more podcast like and, less tinny.
Thank you!
you can tell this series of videos has really brought up his energy.
Nice teaching Mr. Markus, I'm loving learning so much about audio and all because of you!
Kind regards from Portugal!
Portugal? Do you know Liz Baun? 😎
@@weedeeohguy if you mean Lisboa or Lisbon, yes, I do. I live 20 min from it.
Markus, Love the video and Im glad you tell it like it is. Im a musician and I have done videos and audio over the years and 100% correct there is no 1 thing! Love the content!
My favorite time of the week ..to listen to Markus
Great video and advice. An example to your point.... When first in broadcast production in the late 60`s our company had state-of-the-art equipment. We even produced outside production for regional movie trailers, drag strips and such. Us young ones always wanted that big dynamic sound. One day, the chief engineer came in the room to explain why there was a small 3 1/2 inch speaker imbedded in the rack. He said it matched the average size speaker in the average radio/tv of that time. If our production sounded clear and understandable on that speaker, our job was done. Thanks.
I have Izotope RX9 and I only mention this because of a feature that was only available in version 9 as far as I know. It's the "Dialogue Isolate" feature that can literally remove all the background noise like cars, sirens, barking dogs, helicopters and reverb along with computer fans or any other background noise. It makes it disappear like magic while leaving only the main vocals behind. It blows my mind every-time I use it.
Some of us don't have the luxury of recording in deserted remote locations, some of us, like specifically me, I have non stop barking dogs and traffic to deal with almost every time I press that record button. It sucks and no amount of preparation will fix my environment, it just is what it is. So I let RX9 do what it does and wow, it is impressive stuff!
But otherwise, yeah, I'm 100% with ya. From the set up to the post processing. I use FabFilter brand EQ, Compressor, Limiter, etc as my primary tweak and tuning software and the Izotope RX9 as my primary "repair" or "magic bullet". If a more powerful combination exists currently, I am certainly unaware of it. But on those rare occasions when my world is finally quiet, a little preparation equals a whole lot of done!
Thanks for doing this whole series. I/we appreciate it. Cheers 🍻
I use Dialog Isolate all the time. It's also in RX7, been there for a couple years. It works great but it's not a magic bullet though. If you listen closely, there are still some background frequencies mixed in the with words, just not between the words. But it does work very well.
@@MarkusPix:
I didn't realize RX7 had the isolate feature, something about it is supposed to be special in RX9. Anyway, if the audio is really bad and the program has to work really hard to clean it up, then yes, there are a bunch of artifacts left behind. Not a "magic bullet" or fix all, but it has saved some stuff I though to be totally unusable. I'll take a little noise in the form of artifacts if I can eliminate a lot of noise from dogs and traffic. Thanks again Markus. I/we appreciate what you do. Cheers man 🍻
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I've been having some great success making thin/tinny sounding lav mics sound more expensive with EQ/compression. One thing thats really helped is using plugins with no frequency/dynamic visualizing window, and relying purely on hearing changes on the 5-8 knobs to make it sound good.
I love your honesty and creativity!
I've hit LIKE immediatley during the intro. (chuckling)
totally agree,need to understand what light does to the receiving medium - best photos
Thanks for this video, I was one of the people that asked for it.
You're so so good at this stuff - I really appreciate what you do and how well you do it.
Sound engineering is art
Excellent! Some things I know from painful experience, but always new info, like having max peaks because of RUclips compression. Thank you.
After watching: Setting yourself up for success by making sure the audio is recorded well is a no brainer. I'm also not searching for presets. Sometimes, if you see experts at work, you'll pick up tiny this you did not thought about before. In some vids you say "and this is what the mic sounds like with post processing". Can you do a video on different examples? Anyways, love your character and videos. Really appreciate all the efford.
Preach! Great setup to challenge fixing the problem first. 👍🏽
The best filming channel
such a good and funny video well done Markus - very engaging!
Hi Markus
Thanks for your time and effort taken to share your insights. I subscribed a while back, enjoy your 'tell it how it is' approach. I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers.
I don't always agree with everything you say, but find your insights useful to reflect on before deciding how to progress my own learning journey. I'm basically a long time stills photographer attempting to upskill myself (amateur fun use) on audio and video.
I love your videos and I gotta say, I definitely need to turn down the volume on my phone for your videos :)
Amen! If you want something done right do it during production and not in Post.
I really enjoyed this series. thanks for sharing
Hi folks, I'm here to learn about audio. I've always taken the view of 'get it right in camera' - had to, started with black and white roll film ..... in the industry the camera gal/guy is called a 'Lighting Cameraman' - I know, one day it will be gender neutral. As Marcus said, it's the lighting. Same thing with sound, it's the acoustic surroundings. Post processing is the icing on the cake. It's finessing what has already been achieved for both video and audio. Right, enough babble, time to listen. And learn.
Second!
Greetings from the Master Plumber from Boston again, Markus. So glad I ran into your series and am learning audio properly from the beginning. Thanks for sharing. I've taught many Apprentices in my day and love sharing my knowledge, as do you. Have my first camera on order, Canon M6mkii. Smaller, convenient, and travel friendly. Sound familiar? Be well.
Great stuff as always Markus. Thank you.
Dude you are awesome. Thanks for the breakdown, you rock.
Totally agreed with you Marcus, we have to take time and practice to get to the point we want.
Talk talk talk talk talk talk talk. Some real advice about sound. 1. The closer the microphone is to the source the better. 2. Avoid overmodulating at all costs, but sufficient volume to avoid noise floor. 3. Use a directional microphone when you can to dampen environmental sounds and echos. 4. At least 2:1 compression is needed somewhere in the audio chain for voice, so use it when recording so you have additional headroom to keep from overmodulating. 5. Padding controls on the microphones and recorders is for very loud sound sources (think rock bands) that create too much voltage for the recorder. 6. Use a windscreen foam thingy whenever you record outside. 7. If you use only one adjustment in the sound editor, use Normalize, which is similar to Limiter, but adds less distortion. 8. Add/Subtract EQ bass adjustment to make up for any microphone design limitations and save the listener from any discomfort ( this is especially true with music). 9. The new sound processing technology is amazing. Especially the frequency domain programs like SpectraLayers. But they are very time consuming, and add distortion in the form of artifacts.
Thanks for the video, Markus. I always learn from the way you do things. Much appreciated. Have a nice day.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I know the audio basics but I have not been using the modern tools in the computer to improve the audio much. I totally agree with the thrust of your video. You have to do audio basics right to begin with. But giving me a peek into your audio post processing workflow on computers really helps. Thank you for this and the whole audio series.
Thanks. I really like that animated pop up @0:33
Thank you
I am not even at two mins yet, but yes, want to push the like button 1000 times already :)
wonderful contracted message and content, I’ve learned so much will have to watch this many times. thanks for the lecture 🖖🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the bit about plastic surgery!!!!! ROFL ----- I couldn't agree more!
“The name's Buckman."
"Uh, Nitro, hi. "Interesting nickname, what's your real name?"
"Nitro. I'm working on a nickname, though." "Oh yeah?" "Yeah. Listen to this... Mike.”
Beautiful. Great video.
Great video Markus!
Yep ! That's it ! But a Good Mic and good Headphone can help a lot.
Got a DT 797 PV (Bayern Dynamics), and it's changing the game for me.
Mic erase many background noises around you, and Headphone is kindy in the Middle range of everything.
So when you make your sound good for you, it's gonna be kindy good everywhere, because it's calibrate in the middle of all devices.
Chears !
Very helpful video. Great advice.
You are so generous to share all these information
Bravo . . You are Spot-On
Mahalo, i like your sincere approach.
This is what I've been waiting for. The magic ! Thanks Markus
Nice audio post processing
Great video... But... But... What settings did you use for the microphone series? I assumed it was the same for all the microphones... Or did you adjust for each microphone. Thank you.
Dziękuję że to mówisz. Prawda która niektórzy nie widzą.
Hey Markus! Another great vid.. Love ya bro, tell Car' I said hi!
Thank you Markus 🗣️🎙️!!
Thanks, keep up the great work.
Can you please do a video on adjust audio in post, for concert recordings? Recently I went from just a Zoom H1 with built in mics to Roland R-07 with a pair of SP-CMC-4U (Audio Technica mics) from Sound Professionals and a battery box to handle high SPLs. Thanks in advance!
PS. I have Adam Audio TV5 monitor speakers , so they are decent but nothing top of the line. This is what I would want the videos to sound best on. I have home audiophile speakers too (6 foot tall electrostatic Martin Logans) but I don't use them when I watch my videos, so want to post process them for the best sound I can get from the TV5 monitors.
Great video, thank you!
@14:36 I'm just waiting for a princess to visit my frog pond...ribbit
Hi Markus! Thank you thank you thank you!
My pleasure!
Nice desk, did you make it? I like how you mix, I used to do that and I kinda forgot until I watched your video.
Great video.
So hilarious but true!
same as painting a car, 80% of the work is the prep, only 10% is putting the paint down.
"where can i get a Markus sound alike preset?" :P
Excellent !
Great video
Awesome rant!
Thanks
@@MarkusPix the - 3db tip is the big one I walked away with. I usually use the compressor and make the gain up to 0db. My last yt upload sounded kinda funky after upload and this may be why.
It might have been more helpful to have a beginners settings list
Thanks for this!
Yes yes yes you're so right
Good stuff!
Thank God for eBay.. I now have more decent second hand mics than I could have ever wished for and they are amazing..
I must've missed it - what is the magic button I'm supposed to use? Will it fix EVERYTHING? haha. Just kidding. Sounds like you're pretty tired of all the lazy whiners.
FOR A GOOD TIME: Search this channel for Markus' video titled, "Who Am I." AMAZING! ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!
Chain is a strong as the weakest link !
Remember if you start with crap... Crap in - crap comes out. End product is crap..... Start clean!
Brilliant
Thanks 👏👏