@JaySerpa You should've made it so you can fus ro dah her over the edge. Plus I want an option to kill constance as well without the kids getting scared and running cuz she's equally culpable by not dealing with the old bitch herself.
One of these days you're gonna make literally every quest in skyrim interesting, open ended and with roleplaying options. I love what you do! Thank you, as always
Might be good to have killing Grelod outright like in Vanilla incur a murder bounty, since it seemed kind of silly that killing her in such a way is ignored by the riften Guards as well as to give further incentive to using the more covert means of assassination.
There are 2 factors that could explain why you don't get a bounty for killing Grelod. Like in Riften, Grelod have this reputation that is well known among everyone, including the Guards. Also the Guards in Riften have their own reputation of being corrupt, like the first time the player goes to Riften a Guard tried to scam them. So can imagine the Guards looking the other way for allot of crimes, especially if it happened to someone they don't like
I mean yeah The quest needs a challenge of some sort Killing grelod literally has no difficulty It will also encourage the player to use other paths and choices this mod brings instead downright ignoring it
@@kungalexander829 Why should it be about difficulty? She's not a bandit, she's a civilian. Evil civilian. In my first playthrough, I killed Grelod even before I met Aventus - because it simply was the right thing to do.
@@dasik84 the fact she's a civillian is exactly a problem You get no consequence beside plot progression Apparently, guards care more about a chicken's death than a old woman? 🤷
THAT... Is Grelod the Kind. Owner of Honorhall Orphanage. Quite the resume. I'll leave you to prepare... Also this mod, plus Dark Brotherhood story quests and contracts, plus Crime Overhaul, Suspicious City Guards, Wergild, Sneak Tools, Book of Shadows and Master of Disguise is literally Hitman: Skyrim!
I was correct it is innocence lost quest expansion:) I hope this works with the mods "lein's extreme orphanage overhaul", "dark brotherhood for good guys", and "brotherhood of old"
The only issue is that the 'thief-like' arrest of Grelod stops 'destroy the brotherhood' questline (and triggering the Penitus Oculatus mod), and access to the Stone of Barenziah in the sanctuary.
Jay this is by no means a request, but have you thought about touching the Companions and Bards College questlines at all? Seeing as you did the College and now Dark Brotherhood(kinda) I was wondering if overhauling the other in game factions was something you were considering?
Well there are patches to have his skyrims got talent work with Become a Bard Reborn, and BA Bard songs. All the buffs and debuffs from his mod apply to playing the songs from Become a Bard as well.
This is incredible... Probably the best work I've seen done with voice lines, did you manually splice the voicelines, use AI to synthesise the voice lines or a mixture of both?
It’s amazing how modders can splice lines of dialogue to come up with something completely new, yet Bethesda can’t be bothered to do the same with the creation club. Awesome job, makes me want to play Skyrim again…
May I make a suggestion perhaps for a future expansion mod? One thing I've always found odd was that despite having close ties to the Dark Brotherhood, if you choose to destroy them, Maven Blackbriar has no reaction to losing one of her assets. Is she nervous of losing one of her crucial means to an end? Does it make no difference to her? What would she think if you destroyed them while being a member of the Thieves Guild? Would she try to punish you somehow? Just a suggestion for your consideration.
She's one of those NPCs you got a raise and gut just a few times for good measure... Just like Nazeem, Rolff Stonefist,Narfi,Arvel the Swift and a few others. I made in entire hit list of NPC's to torment until Elder scrolls 6 comes out😂
options like this should have been in base game Skyrim. multiple ways to approach quests justifying repeated playthroughs and roleplaying rather than being railroaded to continue.
Just an idea, have you ever thought about using the line splicing to maybe add more dialogue for the children to make them more unique? I find myself adopting one boy and one girl, bc I can’t stand having it sound like my poor child is talking to themselves if I get two boys/girls. This video just made me think of it :)
I have to know since I've been looking for ages: Snapping to cover to listen in, what mod is that? Also, all your mods are bloody amazing. I keep them in my list every time
This is great, will you by chance ever make an (AIO) All In One version of all your mods later as like a merged version to save people load order slots? Because I for one would love to have all your quest mod overhauls in one huge set?
This is great! Finally, there's a way around the the silly fact that Constance lets you adopt a child after witnessing you murder someone. You can even still do the murder, but without any witnesses, so it actually makes sense now.
What mod are you using for the appearance of the children? I usually use RS children but honestly I like the look of the mod you're using because it looks quite diverse. Edit: nevermind, based on research I believe that this is the realistic children overhaul for RS children. . .I forgot about it's existence ngl and didn't give it much thought when it first came out but perhaps I'll give it a chance now :)
What's the armor set you had for Agent 47 there at the end? Nice mod. I have all your mods downloaded for my playthroughs, even for the ones where I don't really do them, haha.
constance: "keeping warm - scarves and mufflers" grelod: "blanketscarfSE" (also check out "blanket scarf earth tones edition" for more color variations) both are on the nexus
Is there a way I could speak with Edda in Riften to get her to kill Gelrod? There always seemed to be some hidden story between the two as Edda will attack Gelrod if Gelrod is found outside. I wish I could donate to the orphanage after the quest. I always feel bad for them.
All the quest needed was to properly put Constance in her place, make it very clear that the kids were up for adoption now. Don't know if the modified kids were your mod's doing, but they were a nice addition. The original ones were SO cookie-cutter.
Amazing mod, I need help i keep getting stuck on the wall when I listen to the old hag and I press A when it tells me to stop but it keeps me glued on the wall. Do you have any way to help me get unstuck?
Mod is available over here: www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/80974
Enjoy!
Every single one of your mods has a permanent place in my load order, they're all excellent!
can you give us a list of the mods your using, your Skyrim looks too pretty to not give it a go.
@JaySerpa You should've made it so you can fus ro dah her over the edge. Plus I want an option to kill constance as well without the kids getting scared and running cuz she's equally culpable by not dealing with the old bitch herself.
You do an absolute awesome job, you should be so proud!
One of these days you're gonna make literally every quest in skyrim interesting, open ended and with roleplaying options. I love what you do! Thank you, as always
🤞
Like this is what we could have had if the developers cared more
I love the idea that you put Grelod in prison, but the Dark brotherhood ends up fulfilling their contract anyway, well played.
Adding role playing to Skyrim one mod at a time. Wonderful work!
Might be good to have killing Grelod outright like in Vanilla incur a murder bounty, since it seemed kind of silly that killing her in such a way is ignored by the riften Guards as well as to give further incentive to using the more covert means of assassination.
There are 2 factors that could explain why you don't get a bounty for killing Grelod.
Like in Riften, Grelod have this reputation that is well known among everyone, including the Guards.
Also the Guards in Riften have their own reputation of being corrupt, like the first time the player goes to Riften a Guard tried to scam them. So can imagine the Guards looking the other way for allot of crimes, especially if it happened to someone they don't like
I mean yeah
The quest needs a challenge of some sort
Killing grelod literally has no difficulty
It will also encourage the player to use other paths and choices this mod brings instead downright ignoring it
@@kungalexander829 Why should it be about difficulty? She's not a bandit, she's a civilian. Evil civilian. In my first playthrough, I killed Grelod even before I met Aventus - because it simply was the right thing to do.
@@dasik84 the fact she's a civillian is exactly a problem
You get no consequence beside plot progression
Apparently, guards care more about a chicken's death than a old woman? 🤷
@@kungalexander829 You forget that she is evil. Look how the kids are celebrating her death! The chicken has actual worth.
Serpa-rim incoming. Building a modlist right now focused on immersion and quests.
Jayserpa, fixing Skyrim, one quest at a time
"Constance, the belt!"
Grelod, the guard is armoured up and twice the size of you, I don't think he's intimidated by an old hag with a belt. XD
THAT... Is Grelod the Kind. Owner of Honorhall Orphanage. Quite the resume. I'll leave you to prepare...
Also this mod, plus Dark Brotherhood story quests and contracts, plus Crime Overhaul, Suspicious City Guards, Wergild, Sneak Tools, Book of Shadows and Master of Disguise is literally Hitman: Skyrim!
So I’m just now learning that Constance was aware of the beatings. She dies too.
Your work with Voice Synth and voice splicing is AMAZING
Also, "to make you feel bad"? Jay, it makes me RELISH in the kill even more >:)
Hahaha, the last path is so funny 😂
Move hag, get out of the way, get out of the way hag, get out of the way 🎵
The Quest Expansions,At Your Own Pace, and The Choice is Yours all make Skyrim more RPG like and are must haves for that.
I was correct it is innocence lost quest expansion:) I hope this works with the mods "lein's extreme orphanage overhaul", "dark brotherhood for good guys", and "brotherhood of old"
Jail Warden: "So shouldn't we follow up on this big tunnel that leads to one of the cells?"
Riften Guard: "Did you forget where you are?"
JaySerpa, fixing Skyrim quests near you since last year
Now all we need is a better Destroy the Dark Brotherhood questline. Great work as always!
Great work! These quests overhauls are seriously impressive. I just wish we had more JaySerpa's in the modding community!
The only issue is that the 'thief-like' arrest of Grelod stops 'destroy the brotherhood' questline (and triggering the Penitus Oculatus mod), and access to the Stone of Barenziah in the sanctuary.
Check the mod description for a solution to this issue.
@@JaySerpa Got it! Mod installed. I am just at the stage in my current playthrough where I can test this baby out.
Jay this is by no means a request, but have you thought about touching the Companions and Bards College questlines at all? Seeing as you did the College and now Dark Brotherhood(kinda) I was wondering if overhauling the other in game factions was something you were considering?
Well there are patches to have his skyrims got talent work with Become a Bard Reborn, and BA Bard songs. All the buffs and debuffs from his mod apply to playing the songs from Become a Bard as well.
You should cover every vanilla quest! The game with your mods is 100x better!
Ah my favourite Modder!! Thanks for making awesome mods ;D
I will never get bored of little children being happy that Grelod is dead.
The push in the water is impressive LOL
Honey, wake up. A new JaySerpa mod just dropped
As always, brilliant work. Some great choices here. 👌🏻😂 Your mods are truly essential to any playlist. 👍🏻👍🏻
Cannot wait for this! it'll be Well worth the wait!
You are amazing my friend, keep up the good work.
Fantastic work as always, Jay!
This is incredible... Probably the best work I've seen done with voice lines, did you manually splice the voicelines, use AI to synthesise the voice lines or a mixture of both?
All my mods are 100% manual splicing! It's not perfect, but I try my best! I think you'll enjoy my Lines Expansion series of mods, check them out :)
It’s amazing how modders can splice lines of dialogue to come up with something completely new, yet Bethesda can’t be bothered to do the same with the creation club. Awesome job, makes me want to play Skyrim again…
These voicelines sound amazingly seamless! Excellent work!
So good! Such an incredible improvement. Such choices and great implementation.
May I make a suggestion perhaps for a future expansion mod?
One thing I've always found odd was that despite having close ties to the Dark Brotherhood, if you choose to destroy them, Maven Blackbriar has no reaction to losing one of her assets. Is she nervous of losing one of her crucial means to an end? Does it make no difference to her? What would she think if you destroyed them while being a member of the Thieves Guild? Would she try to punish you somehow?
Just a suggestion for your consideration.
Sending her off into the drink, brilliant. Thanks Jay!
This is the first I'm hearing of your work, but this is so expansive! I love it! I can't wait to look into your other mods.
A part of me was expecting to see Grelod carry an actually belt when running off to the docks
The mod looks great!!!
Are you willing to reveal the list of mods you have installed? I’m interested in having some of the stuff you got
same here my skyrim does not even look close to this 😂
mood
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His modlist is on twitch. You should watch his streams. They're really fun :)
@@urbonx no
I hope one day I can see whole dark bortherhold and theif quest has been turn to a story full of justice🤣
She's one of those NPCs you got a raise and gut just a few times for good measure... Just like Nazeem, Rolff Stonefist,Narfi,Arvel the Swift and a few others. I made in entire hit list of NPC's to torment until Elder scrolls 6 comes out😂
options like this should have been in base game Skyrim. multiple ways to approach quests justifying repeated playthroughs and roleplaying rather than being railroaded to continue.
Just an idea, have you ever thought about using the line splicing to maybe add more dialogue for the children to make them more unique? I find myself adopting one boy and one girl, bc I can’t stand having it sound like my poor child is talking to themselves if I get two boys/girls. This video just made me think of it :)
Your male character reminds me a bit of Lo Wang from one of the Shadow Warrior Reboot games
that dark elif is so beautful and cute looking!!
"Grelod Karen"
Ow! My drink! Right out my nose! LMAO!
bro turned this into a hitman mission
Nice idea. Thanks a lot for such mod.
I love the Hitman reference LMAO ❤
I have to know since I've been looking for ages:
Snapping to cover to listen in, what mod is that? Also, all your mods are bloody amazing. I keep them in my list every time
the peek around the corner is a native feature to this mod, not a separate mod
Yo another awesome expansion! 🤙🏽
🤌Stellar work as usual. Anyone know what mod adds the shawl thing Grelod is wearing? It looks immersive.
This is great, will you by chance ever make an (AIO) All In One version of all your mods later as like a merged version to save people load order slots? Because I for one would love to have all your quest mod overhauls in one huge set?
another great work , do the mehrunes dagon quest too :)
another awesome mod. still going to make her meet my wood axe though
well, she was still under contract, so somebody had to do it
What mods are you using for the guards and other npcs?
Great mod! By the way, what walking/running animations are you using?
man i would love to see your mod list your game looks awesome
I swear Bethesda gotta hire you bro.
This is great! Finally, there's a way around the the silly fact that Constance lets you adopt a child after witnessing you murder someone. You can even still do the murder, but without any witnesses, so it actually makes sense now.
i hope you would add Diana Burnwood voice after killing Grelod
What mod are you using for the appearance of the children? I usually use RS children but honestly I like the look of the mod you're using because it looks quite diverse.
Edit: nevermind, based on research I believe that this is the realistic children overhaul for RS children. . .I forgot about it's existence ngl and didn't give it much thought when it first came out but perhaps I'll give it a chance now :)
What's the armor set you had for Agent 47 there at the end? Nice mod. I have all your mods downloaded for my playthroughs, even for the ones where I don't really do them, haha.
What mod do you use for those scarves Constance and Grelod are wearing?
constance: "keeping warm - scarves and mufflers"
grelod: "blanketscarfSE" (also check out "blanket scarf earth tones edition" for more color variations)
both are on the nexus
From what you've shown, none of the ways except the jail will not stop the mod "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood"?
what is that coat your character is wearing? that looks so cool.
Is there a way I could speak with Edda in Riften to get her to kill Gelrod? There always seemed to be some hidden story between the two as Edda will attack Gelrod if Gelrod is found outside.
I wish I could donate to the orphanage after the quest. I always feel bad for them.
Poisoning grelod should requires high enough cooking skill and lying also requires speech
Where'd you get the wall sidle mod? I need to experiment with it so I can make a cover system
👏 RESPECT 👍
All the quest needed was to properly put Constance in her place, make it very clear that the kids were up for adoption now.
Don't know if the modified kids were your mod's doing, but they were a nice addition. The original ones were SO cookie-cutter.
I lwill leave you to prepare.
what is the animation being used when you stand behind the wall/door at 0:09?
What armor mod is your male character wearing in the wine assassination showcase? looks awesome
As always, mod for the top list.
Ask separately. What mod do you use to be able to listen from the wall?
Love the video, the mod too lol
Wow so many variations, I like this mod 🥰
P.s. It isn’t mod “simple children”?
RS Children Overhaul
6:29 "Who could it be?" Is this to be uncovered later or this scenario just ends like that?
dude share with us your modlist, animations and armors. is this Requiem?
What mods are you using to make everyone look so good
0:06 is that animation included in the mod or is it a separate animation mod
Brilliant xD
Anyone, please help, how to make ineed mode work on skyrim ae? My game crush whem i enter my inventory.
Grelod the Karen, lol
what are the armor mods you use in your videos?
what clothing mod do you use?
would love to see a full modlist honestly
What mod adds those blankets over people? It looks interesting
"use those blankets", it's by this same mod author
edit: realized you meant the scarves, that's actually "blanketscarfSE"
what mod you using to make your character look pretty?
I don't think it's realistic that she would be imprisoned. In real life people get away with that kind of thing.
which mod for the kids to look like that??
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
Amazing mod, I need help i keep getting stuck on the wall when I listen to the old hag and I press A when it tells me to stop but it keeps me glued on the wall. Do you have any way to help me get unstuck?
So there is a way to do The destroy The dark brotgerhood quest in the prison end?
well i know what im downloading today lol
what mod are you using for the guards name
Configurable Real Names for SSE
@@hyu9124 thanks
What mod is that first leather armour from? It looks great.
Netch leather armor ?
What you using to go against the wall?
This mod
WHAT MOD IS THAT SNEAK BEHIND CORNER
This mod lol
@@JaySerpa wait with this you can sneak against the wall?
Who was the courier delivering to? 🤨
Armor?
What is the clothing mod?