Wrong Turn! Singapore Airlines flight 006
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Singapore Airlines Flight 006 was a scheduled Singapore Airlines passenger flight from Singapore Changi Airport to Los Angeles International Airport via Chiang Kai-shek International Airport (now Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport) in Taipei, Taiwan. On the 31st October 2000, the Boeing 747-412 operating the flight attempted to take off from the wrong runway leading to a very serious accident. In this video I will explain what caused this fatal mistake and what we have learned from it.
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Below you will find the links to videos and sources used in this episode. Enjoy checking them out!
Sources
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Final Report:
reports.aviation-safety.net/2...
Briefing Room: NOVOSIBIRSK International Airport
eng.tolmachevo.ru/mediacenter...
Ground Radar: Mark Brouwer
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Measure Water: Vaisala
www.vaisala.com/en/industries...
Grooved Runway: cardinalgrooving.com
www.cardinalgrooving.com/groo...
Holding Point: UNKNOWN
www.euroga.org/forums/flying/...
Boeing HQ: BOEING
www.bizjournals.com/seattle/n...
Crash 1: Taiwan Transportation Sefety Board
reports.aviation-safety.net/2...
Crash 5: UNKNOWN
www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash...
Crash 5: UNKOWN
www.baaa-acro.com/crash/crash...
Aircraft used: Sparky 744 By mSparks43
forums.x-plane.org/index.php?...
CHAPTERS
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00:00 - Intro
00:50 - History / Crew Info
02:51 - Extreme Weather Concerns
03:56 - Taxiway Lighting
04:55 - The First Leg
05:29 - A Slight Change Of Plan
06:43 - Performance Calculations
07:43 - Wet Feet
09:03 - Requesting Further ATIS
09:35 - Taxi Routing
10:44 - Facing West
13:02 - Rudder Work
14:32 - Lighting Issues
15:55 - Surface Water Reporting
17:41 - The Call They Should Have Got
18:55 - The Works Site
20:31 - Ready For Departure
21:59 - Defective Lighting
24:59 - Dr Reason At Play Once Again
26:57 - The Tragedy
28:44 - Report Findings/Actions
29:59 - Learning Outcomes
as a nervous flyer, I really apreciate that mentour pilot explain every incident in a calm informatic manner and not making it into a horror film like other shows.
🤣💯
He is also informative. Informatic means the science of processing data for storage and retrieval.
I get the impression you're the kind of person that claps when an airplanes lands during a bit of turbulence.
Î have never been a nervous flyer but now after watching all these videos I am scared knowing what all can go wrong 😂😂
@Lee thank you for your comment, however my comment was a kind of joke, I used to be a frequent flyer, even long distances and I experienced two landings during heavy storms, a lightning stroke and ESD at 35000ft right next to my seat when flying through a thunderstorm. I initially thought that something had hit the airplane. I felt it through the fuselage as my arm was resting against the wall. I also watched an emergency landing of the plane ahead of us while our plane was on holding pattern circling around the airport.
My dad was supposed to board this flight that night. However, my mom had just gone to the hospital that day and discovered that she was pregnant with me. So she convinced my dad to stay in the office as she felt that it would be safer for him to take the next flight when the typhoon had passed/become weaker. As my mom was a ground staff at the Singapore Airlines check-in area at the time, she was able to get my dad a ticket on the next flight out. So my dad went to sleep in the office that night and when he woke up, he discovered that he had a lot of missed calls on his work phone. His colleagues all thought that he had boarded the flight.
It turns out that had my dad boarded the flight, I would've most likely grown up without knowing him. His seat was located at the front of the plane on the upper deck, and would've likely died in the crash. So I'm very grateful that my mom as able to talk some sense into my dad, as he has helped me out tremendously through my life and I don't know where I'd be without him.
That is so very lucky for your dad and your family. So very heartfelt the way you describe it.
Wow...his Angels protected him!!!
I'd say you saved your dad. Your parents by then will know that you're a special kid for the family. Without you inside your mom, he'd have board on that flight.
Wow, that's an amazing story. These sorts of last minute life-changing events always amaze me. How one seemingly insignificant decision could have such a major impact on the rest of your life. Glad things worked out and I'm happy you have a good dad. He didn't just survive that event, he became a good parent. I can tell you from firsthand experience that if you were my shoes, you would have wished your dad took the flight.
Having a child is a joy but when they first looked at you they must have felt that intensely!
After learning stuff like this, I will never ever get frustrated if a flight takes a bit long to take off or land=)
Thinking of the same thing 😅
This is the exact thought I have when watching every video on this channel. I find myself mentally preparing to verbally dissemble any Karen who pitches a fit, too.
yep
Hey, Singaporean here. I want to make a correction to something about this video, because people are not going to be familiar with Singapore slang grammar. At 13:27, the pilot is actually rushing. He's saying something more along the line of "If we don't get out soon, it's going to get worse." He is in fact, rushing.
9:54 The captain says slow down, take your time, make sure we've covered all the bases. If any rush was there it was to make use of a small weather window to get out while could before the typhoon actually hit. Cut them some slack, these guys did everything they could to get it right. After living in Spore for 2 years, I know you guys have a very perfectionist view on life, no mistakes allowed, shame if you fail to meet unacceptably high standards...failure is very human and a part of life, otherwise were just robts in a mechanical environment
Losing situational awareness like this is a horrible horrible feeling. It happened to me once during my PPL when i was flying solo to yuma in a small piper Archer. I had been there once before with my instructor and so I wasn't completely unfamiliar of the airport layout, but Yuma being a shared military airport has some long wide and intersecting runways and a fairly complicated taxiway map. On my solo i was given taxi instructions for an intersection take off, at first i accepted the clearance and started taxiing but soon i started feeling really uneasy about whether or not i was going the right way, So i fessed up and requested for a full runway departure WITH progressive taxi and the controllers did a great job of getting me back on track but more importantly helping me get my situational awareness back.
When in doubt always take a step back and don't be afraid to ask for help
Well done. Pride or embarrassment to speak up has no place in aviation.
I've been driving in my neighborhood for 32 years. However, routine and complacency still occasionally cause me to miss turns, depart to a different destination, et cetera.
I usually pull over and clear my mind to focus on the task, an advantage of driving or if my teen grandkud is with me she's my First Officer and she was raised to speak up.
Good on you for asking, and glad they helped. MUCH better than taking a chance.
Whenever I hear the phrase "situational awareness" I think of the time I was driving along a motorway in the dark and suddenly a combination of slight mist and oncoming lights shining through the centre barrier created what looked like a solid barrier across my lane, too close to stop for. The absolute terror in that moment, and then the utter disorientation as I drove "through" it, will never leave me.
Suddenly, what had seemed like a very clear view of the road was actually just an abstract pattern of lights in the dark. I no longer had any idea what those lights meant, and I was still moving at 70mph with no grasp on my surroundings whatsoever.
Thankfully it only took a second or two to regain my marbles, and I carried on without incident, but I'll never forget it. The brain takes sometimes very minimal input and turns it into what seems like a rock solid understanding of our surroundings that we would be crazy to doubt - but when it builds the wrong model, all bets are off and we discover we know less than nothing about what's really going on.
@@PartanBree Wow! This story of yours shows how important good situational awareness is, especially when you aren’t a pilot.
Hey, it sounded like you dealt with that exactly the way you should have! Well done
I lost a colleague and good friend in this crash. He was in the prime of his life, a very successful business professional and a very friendly and gentle person. He had Dutch nationality and was working based in Singapore, for a US company, for which he was on his way to LA. He left behind his wife and 3 children, at that time age 6, 4 and 6 months of age.
In the investigation it turned out he was in a seat on the upper deck, row 19. The crash event itself did not kill any person on the upper deck, so he survived that part. Then the crew rushed out of the cockpit and tried to open the left hand door, which was not easily done. They turned to the right hand side that also did not operate. The left door finally opened, but the slide did not inflate, leaving a high jump for the people. The crew exited first (so much for captains leaving the ship last), and abandoned the scene. My friend helped the purser get people on the slide and down to safety until the deck below their feet collapsed due to the very high heat from the fire on the deck below. Both perished, as well as the people that had not been able to exit.
His wife found all this out by investigating herself and talking to all the people that did get out alive. Many of them were consumed by feeling of guilt, as the person that helped them out had not made it himself. She told me she would have maybe preferred to have had a little less heroic husband. I did what I could to help her get her life on a new track, which she did beautifully. Still I also would have preferred a different course of history.
Oh how very sad
I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. At least he died a hero, saving others.
Sorry to hear that.
This brings up a valid point.
If you die as a hero who is going to take care of your wife and raise your kids.
My heart is breaking for you, the tears are flowing.. I am hugging you until you feel better...
I'm a surgeon and just yesterday i had a case where i forgot to do a small step. it was more just a minor inconvenience in the long run -- but I'm still rattled today that it had slipped my mind. makes me realize how easily big things can also fall through the cracks. your words on listening to that inner voice rang so true. as i was closing yesterday, i couldn't shake the feeling that i had missed something... sadly even though i did take a moment to consider, it still didn't click until I'd already scrubbed out. i should've just stopped what i was doing completely and ran through the steps one by one...
i think we should have checklists in surgery too. idk why we don't. our nurses do -- that's they count stuff that can easily be left behind (sponges, etc). but we just rely on our very fallible brains, despite that in the heat of the moment one can easily forget something.
What's crazy for me: it's just accepted worldwide that doctors and nurses are severely overworked and nobody seems to do anything about it. Nobody thinks about the levels of accumulated fatigue we're experiencing, if we'd be to mess up, it'd be purely our personal responsibility. Maybe because we're unable to potentially kill dozens of people in one go because of our fatigue? I don't know...
@@orange_kate this frustrates me to no end though. but hey, govts would rather pay for bombs and warplanes than the basic health of its citizens, so every year our reimbursement gets cut and we have to work faster and faster to see more and more people, and meanwhile our hospital execs are cutting themselves huge bonus checks 😞
@@seraphikcan you make your own checklist and use it during procedures?
I hope you make your own checklists. All three times I delivered a baby, someone left stuff inside that came out in my shower, etc. I was hospitalized all three times for a week to two weeks, following, with infection. Terrible way to welcome a baby; totally unconscious. All these years later I realize that if I had sued, it may not have happened again. I just assumed everyone did all they could. Actually, they didn’t listen to me when I said that I could not pee, was uncomfortable and screamed with afterbirth and cotton falling out and clogged up. Cool as cucumbers everyone told me that patient reactions to surgery are unpredictable. At no point was anyone looking out for me or my infants in Princeton, NJ or Louisville, KY in 1988, 1993, 1997. I have a feeling that airline companies may have fixed things sooner than hospitals. If they ever did.
We DO have check lists in surgery. Like everything else, people take these lists lightly.
I watched the mayday-episode on this accident and I felt so bad for the pilots. The captain was so cautious and tried to do everything right and was very aware of the bad weather and the implications this had. It just shows that even when you have the best intentions and really try to do it right small mistakes and lead to catastrophic events.
I saw that episode and felt the same way. The poor pilot was trying to be extra careful, and his "reward" was a horrible tragedy. Alas, no good deed goes unpunished. 😥
One theory advanced by the TV episode was that because the pilot was going slower than usual, the distance traveled from the terminal seemed longer, so that when the pilot finally arrived at the runway, he thought he had reached the far (correct) runway rather than the near (incorrect) one.
And of course, the misleading taxiway lights undoubtedly contributed to the error. One set of bright, densely-arranged lights guides you invitingly to a nearby runway, while the other lights are dim, far apart, and in one case, not even working. And on top of that, the pilot was accustomed to seeing only lights that guided him to the correct runway. To my mind, this taxiway lighting issue was the single most important contributing factor.
Road to hell is paved in good intentions.
@@Milesco
@charleric8364 same for me, somehow I find this very very sad
@wowplayer160 If so, I see no point in believing in hell
This shows how important ground lights and the pilot language they use for taxiways is. Also this is as always the best presentation of the accident made by amazing video creators!
Thank you so much for your kind words. 💕💕
Moon Rust are you a paid account?
@@jamescollier3 nope, why would you think that?
@@MentourPilot Its not just language. Too many things were giving them signs NOT to take off. Substandard situational awareness and confirmation bias compelled them continue the take off. This accident is a good example of the Swiss cheese model.
TPE is a much safer airport because of this accident.
Thank you Petter for bringing these to us!
Weird how the slides can't operate in winds that are OK for takeoff. Seems like they should design a safety slide that works in all operating wind speeds, if possible of course.
That exactly what I thought
Or to look at it the other way up, the maximum operating wind speed should be one where all the safety equipment can work!
the slides are also rafts and must automatically detach if the airframe becomes submerged, so there is some amount of force (either by buoyancy or by wind) that will detach them
@@stevegruber4724 Then perhaps the slides need a sensor that reacts to deep water? Or a manual release that's easy to identify and operate?
Retired now but, I used to work in a hospital emergency room and when things started getting really out of control, we were always taught to check our own blood pressure first (slow things down) before making rash decisions. Love your break down of these events.
I've watched most of your videos, and this stands out as one of the scariest and saddest. Making a wrong turn in the dark feels like such a simple and human mistake, as easy to make as accidentally taking the wrong highway exit in a car. I can only imagine the guilt the pilots must still carry over it.
THIS was not a simple "mistake".
Your comparison was simplistic and naive.
This was a total lack of airmanship and professionalism in a machine designed to operate in low visibility conditions.
@daftvader4218 This was not 'simply low visibility', this was a typhoon. Also known as a hurricane in the western hemisphere.
@@emo7636 In aviation terms this was low visibility. ...Actually 450 mtrs is not that low....
They could see plenty of GREEN centre line taxiway lighting. ...
Who takes off on such a surface ???
This was an approaching Typhoon......it had not yet arrived ....winds have to be 80 kts plus.
Well done.... these cyclone are called different names in different parts of the world.
How is that relevant .
Just appalling airmanship and professionalism.
@@daftvader4218Yes and by only 1 pilot. All 3 missed it.. It's unbelievable.
@@daftvader4218yet it often happens that a driver is riding on a closed highway lane, sometimes resulting in a crash, despite all the evidence you're driving in a closed lane (no other cars, big red crosses or even arrows telling you to change the lane.
If you take a wrong exit from the highway, you have possibly a GPS clearly showing which route to take. Yet when 2 exits are only 100m apart, people often take the wrong one. Despite their GPS, despite the different names on the pointers above the highway, despite your GPS clearly telling you which one to.
It's easy to blame others. There was simply confirmation bias. Pilots are not immune to it. They are only human too.
But if you ever took a wrong turn while following a GPS and only finding out after the GPS rerouted, you made just the same mistake since you had 2 visual and even one oral 'warning', showing/telling you which one to take.
Now maybe you live in a not very busy part of the world with exits far from each other, which makes it almost impossible to take the wrong one. But as someone who lives in Antwerp I can tell you if you don't know the area, you will make mistakes.
I say that as an experienced driver that drives very often and long distances, as an ex cab driver and as someone that drove twice over 3500kms from Belgium to Turkey.
I can assure you that no matter your level of experience, if you spend a lot of time on the road, you're bound to make exactly that mistake, especially if you get less than perfect information.
the amount of runway disasters like these in history is slightly concerning, glad they aren't heard of anymore
We try to learn from the mistakes. Hopefully that stops them from happening again.
Don't be so sure that they can't happen again unfortunately. When diligence, patience, skills or concentration lapses, or factors such as lack of ground radar or poor airport signage or lighting or ground controller error, form the swiss cheese model they will happen.
ATC able to pinpoint aircraft thousands of feet in the air on radar....cannot 'see' craft on tarmac a few hundred metres away....mmmh
If only all planes could be A350s, right? I saw a video by Sam Chui where the pilots were showing him the latest glass cockpit in that thing and I was blown away by how fast new technology finds its way into aircraft these days. The HUGE displays in front of the pilots showed the plane's position on a map of the airport and you could pinch to zoom or mirror your screen with the other pilot. That could have prevented this type of accident.
@@oliverwabwire2836 Two separate systems, but yes you are correct, Ground Radar should be mandatory and it would cost a lot less than ATC radar (planes in the sky)
I think this one is the most understandable and human of all the errors I can recall seeing on this channel. I'm glad there were survivors, but it's a shame it couldn't be everyone. RIP.
@@K1OIK Rest In Peace
Someone had to pay
No it is not.....
Loads of basic errors that any professional human being would have avoided...
Several basic instrument check
including the basic moving map which Petter totally ignores in his inaccurate, biased report based on the Singapore white wash.
Take Petter's reports with a pinch of salt....they are not accurate...
Eg Typhoons don't track like that at all for a start.
Who takes off on a surface with green centre line lighting and blue edge lighting? ?
The FO was my lecturer in Polytechnic. He did a presentation on the events of that night and when he revealed himself everyone's jaw was on the floor.
A colleague (he was a good friend) died in the upper business class on this one. His colleague was assigned next to him, but decided to move back to the tail of the aircraft, where a row of 5 seats was available to sleep on. He survived.
Do you have proof?
@@aurelia8028 why would you even ask if someone has proof for something like that? Weird. It’s not such a rare occurrence in south east asia on some of the airlines, coupled with the difficult weather and massive differences in infrastructure and equipment maintenance standards. My dad’s good friend and colleague was meant to be on a Garuda Air flight from Jakarta, but had just gotten back from somewhere else and wanted to stay in Jakarta a day longer so rebooked. That flight went down with all souls. He’s still haunted by that to this day. What proof could we possibly give you?
@@darcgibson5099 most of the comments that do this always start with either I lost a colleague and good friend in this crash or
I lost a good friend and colleague in this accident
i can understand why people are seeing its fake now
@@FatalErrorSnasMatthewHorsted not "seeing", thinking. They're thinking it's fake. When people lose loved ones, they tend to follow any reports on how they lost them. It's no coincidence they stumbled upon these videos
Ok, the pilots missed a couple of visual clues given by their instrumentation that correctly told them they were lined up on the wrong way however, why the freaking hell is a runway not in use, and with construction equipment on it lit up like a ruddy Christmas tree? Was the accident avoidable? Sure it was. Is it understandable how the mistake was made? Likewise, sure it was. Another masterpiece of presentation and explanation Captain Petter, I always so look forward to your content regardless of the subject matter both on this channel, and your Mentour Now
Thank you so much. 💕
me too, I also love the content and click as fast as possible when a new video is released
I thought the exact same thing...a few red lights? Really?
Honestly! They should have put illuminated barriers right at the beginning of the runway to make it clear for everybody that YOU DO NOT TAKE OFF HERE!
@@johannageisel5390 The reason there were no big barriers on the rest of the runway was because it was an active taxiway. Barriers would have prevented it's use for that purpose.
The taxiway lights should have been enough to hint to the pilots they hey maybe you're not actually on a runway. It's understandable that they missed this though given the conditions.
I watched the Air Crash Investigation episode on this incident only a few days ago. Very excited to hear Mentour's presentation of it! I find these videos tend to include more of an interesting perspective on how pilots make the mistakes that they do and a focus on how these mistakes can be prevented. This was a very sad incident and I do feel for the pilots.
I was just saying that! LOL! I’m not sure if we watched the same one, but the one I saw blamed the pilot for being TOO cautious…since he was going slower, that he probably thought he’d gone farther than he actually had. And although they touched on some of the other findings too, I think the way Mentour explains things makes so much better sense. We get to hear an explanation of what *should* be happening and why, as well as what the instruments are saying, how the crew might have interpreted them… all in the context of the simulated steps-not as a summary at the end.
@@ellicel Yes. I feel some of these TV shows disrespect the facts in favour of "good dramatic television". Memtour is to the point without focusing on assigning blame but rather focusing on the why things happened in the first place
@@ellicel The ACI episode missed a lot of details mentioned in this video. Like the taxiway lighting problems, active runway lighting missing , the closed runway being converted to taxiway and still being active as taxiway, and some of the cockpit instruments that could be used to catch the mistake. The quality of this video is much higher.
I also just watched that episode a couple days ago! Whenever I'm doing cleaning work, I put on episodes of ACI. I'm in the middle of season 12 atm.
Just downloaded the entire show, 150 gb of stuff
Airlines and airports are usually so meticulous. I would have expected at least a physical sign at the start of the closed runway saying "Runway Closed". It shows you can never overdo safety and alert information
I lost a good friend and colleague in this accident. He, his young wife, and a year-old son were returning to CA from India after a vacation. I remember how much I wept when I saw the news on Yahoo! It was surreal. First, it was -- oh a Singapore Airlines had an accident at Taipei on the way to LAX. Then a few seconds later it suddenly dawned on us ...wasn't "J" and his family on this flight? Followed by a silence, then hope that there were survivors, then despair when we saw his name on the list of the deceased. It was a horrible, horrible, time. Just thinking on how gruesome his death was and how much he would have suffered, along with his wife and his young son; imagining his despair at not being able to protect his young family...
Absolutely terrifying, I cannot imagine the terror and grief they must have experienced in their last moments. Rest in peace.
Be expected.
Sometimes a false sense of security has a role in the play. They flew the day before without incident. Now the situation changed thus not the same results to be expected.
I lost a colleague and good friend in this crash
I lost a good friend and colleague in this accident
why do they always start with these starting to think these are fake now
@@FatalErrorSnasMatthewHorsted Because it happens too often and the people who this happened to often come to these videos when thinking about their friends and family who passed away in these accidents. Sadly, there are a few people out there using these terrible accidents in the worst way to get attention, but many of the people here really did lose someone.
If you think about it, on this particular accident, 83 people died. How many friends and family members did each one of them have? How many friends and family do they all add up to? What are the chances that one of those probably many people come here when thinking about the accident and the friends and/or family? What are the chances that one of those people might leave a comment here?
It's a small world after all. RIP those who perished in this crash.
I feel bad for those pilots, yes they did not fully use all the cockpit instrumentation, but the weather, no ground radar, air traffic control, and runway taxi lights all played a part. rest in peace for those who lost their lives, may those who survive find peace in the lives.
Yeah, they made some mistakes, but there were a lot of things wrong with the airport that probably would have prevented the mistakes. I think the lighting was the biggest one. Why would you put so many lights to indicate a turn but so few for going straight?
I am not a Pilot, but I was surprise that the air traffic control tower can’t see all the planes on all runways all the time! I thought that was a major point of the tower - being up high, with lots of windows and binoculars.
Also for the 3mm. maximum of rain allowed on the runway, why doesn’t a ground crew check that just before take off, if it’s raining heavily? Why would the Pilots get out and do that, and get all kinds of condensation inside the cockpit and windows!?
@@paddlefar9175 Fun fact, the crosswind runway at Indianapolis (KIND) was shortened because the south end wasn't visible from the new control tower due to the Fedex hub blocking visibility.
What happened to those pilots?
Were they able to fly again?
@@Haskellerz I don‘t know. Wikipedia says they were fired by Singapore Airlines.
Having watched another channel’s reporting, I was familiar with this accident but I’m always amazed at how much more thorough Mentour Pilot is with his explanation of what actually happened. And he always includes takeaways that are relevant for any field, not just aviation.
Also, I want to thank the team for adding a warning that this particular episode will deal with loss of life. That really helps to make sure I’m in the right headspace to continue watching.
Thank you for your feedback. My sim is always to give a little bit more than what already exists. I’m glad to hear it’s appreciated. 💕
Unlike the overwhelming majority of TV producers, Mentour has a clear idea of how and why these accidents occur.
As a newcomer to the world of aviation I find these fascinating, no other industry I know of is so diligent in identifying root causes of accidents. There are many lessons to learn for everyday life also in terms of decision making and communication. I would love to get my PPL here in the UK but it's so expensive!
yeah, when you consider each accident holds the lives of 100-200 people, I'm very glad they take it so seriously. it's comforting in part to know that very few repeat major incidents happen, apart from relating the many incidents that can happen with those damn pitot tubes...
USCSB a parallel federal agency to NTSB that is in charge of chemical accident analysis does the similar thing in aviation and they also have a very good RUclips channel for publicizing accident report
But the diligence on the industry side is way lower than aviation. may be due to the chemical industry not directly servicing the general public
@@play005517 It also probably has to due with the magnitude of aviation accidents, mainstream media covers it more and the death/fatality rate is higher as chemical spills usually occur in distant plants or factories not filled with a ton of people.
I work at an airport and there are many procedures that are carried out with a checklist. The problem with these is that (like with any other thing you do routinely) you get complacent. You go through the process haphazardly, because nothing bad has happened before. It's difficult to maintain the diligence of checking everything thoroughly, when you have done it a hundred times before. Maintaining the feeling of importance of every check is challenging. If you get complacent and just "go through the motions" with other things on your mind, accidents happen.
Yes. I worked with track workers on subways. A guy who had 32 years in service was carrying a bag of railroad spikes partway blocking his view over right shoulder. Crossing tracks right in the path of an approaching train. I grabbed his back belt to stop him. He was so used to doing this that he didn't think or hear a train. He retired.
@@sharoncassell9358 good that you pulled him back
how bouts just STUPID
It is so hard to imagine many bad scenarios and avoid them all and then feel that you are not being overly cautious. But cautious people avoid major accidents by being cautious. I have made so many errors by having a general manner of disregarding my very cautious father and it has cost me dearly. I wish I had been an orphan so that I did not have those internal biases.
@@jamesmedina2062 your comment is interesting...
Very interesting and sad.
From what I've read on this crash is that many pilots had complained for years about the potential for the 05R runway to be mistakenly used in situations with low visibility. But the airport ignored their concerns. Apparently that runway was rarely used as a runway, and the next day after this crash is the day it was scheduled to be officially documented as a taxiway.
Another note, from what I've read the airport still did not implement ground radar even after this crash, and possibly not until 2015. Which is mind boggling. The airline spent millions in lawsuits, but the airport apparently didn't feel the need to make more than a couple cheap changes. Can you confirm if they have Ground radar currently?
Yes, TPE now has ground radar and its runway designations are now 05L/23R and 05R/23L for the north and south runways respectively instead of 05/23 and 06/24. The runways and taxiways have also recently been resurfaced and a new CAT III ILS have been installed for the north runway, the same one Singapore Flight 6 was supposed to takeoff from. Taoyuan Airport has been criticized by many Taiwanese for many years for being old and outdated when compared to other major international airports in Asia like Changi, Incheon, Narita, etc., but the airport is modernizing and improving as we speak now.
From historical satellite imagery on Google Earth, it seems that the ground radar system was built at any time between June 2002 and September 2009 (historical imagery was available for these 2 months, but not in between so the range is very wide), definitely not as late as 2015, of course, unless it took 5 years or more between completion and activation of the system which I don't think is plausible.
Ya, and the blame of this accident is on the pilot.
@@dynasty0019 For clarity - what was runway 05R is now a taxiway.
@@canineatnight6026 It seems that you have not understood the video. There were a number of things that both pilots AND the airport could/should have done which would have prevented the crash from occurring.
As a Taiwanese, I can't forget this accident, thank you for talking about this in detail.
Thank you for watching, I hope it made sense.
I'm not from Taiwan and it still horrifies me too.
Shame the Taiwanese authorities have forgotten it; Taipei still has very poor/inadequate markings on this runway/taxiway
I’ve said it previously and I’ll say it again - the more Aircrash investigations I watch, the more likely I am to avoid flying at night, especially in the rain, especially in unfamiliar countries!
Aircraft are still extremely rare. Every video here is about failure, but it doesn't change anything about statistical safety.
@@Argumemnon"Aircraft are still extremely rare"...? I think you missed out a word
Or ever 😂
Hi I’m from Singapore. Thank you for making a video of this air flight accident. I can recall how shocking it was when we received the news in Singapore as this was the first accident that happened to a Singapore Airlines plane. The pilots were then badly berated by the public. Having watched your video now, I can better understand that there were other reasons/factors that we did not know then, which contributed to this accident. It probably could have been avoided.
A friend of my ex-colleague was a cabin crew in this flight died. My condolences to the families of the casualties.
When it's late at night, you're scrolling through RUclips struggling to find anything good to put on, and bang... new Mentour Pilot video. Impeccable timing tbh
I lived in Taipei... when it rains, believe me, it bangs it down. Taoyuan 40 miles away from Taipei city centre towards the coast, often bares the brunt of weather like this.
This Scotsman would love it there.
Bb
The First Officer was my lecturer back in 2018, he is right now flying with AirAsia as an awesome Captain!
Yes...truly awsome!!!
Don't listen to all he told you.
I'm of the opinion that when a typhoon is about to hit the airport area it is better to cancel all flights. Even if the pilots are well trained, and the air craft in pristine condition, such kind of weather conditions increase dramatically the chances that something might go really wrong.
I wouldn't want to fly, but some airlines operate in areas where the weather is far too frequently like that, you have to sort of work around it.
@@mandowarrior123 The passengers safety should be their priority. And at the end of the day how many times can a typhoon hit an area each year. Once or twice for a couple of days at worst.
In this particular case they should have rescheduled all flights.
There is no evidence which backs up your assertion. Accident rates during typhoons are no worse than those in any other weather conditions.
@@creativecolours2022 Why ? There is no increased risk to safety if procedures are followed correctly, which they were in this case. The crash was not caused by the typhoon alone.
@@hb1338 Even if they followed the procedures correctly they wouldn't be able to see that the runway was blocked due to the bad weather and they wouldn't be able to stop because the runway was like a a lake. And generally speaking the procedures were not followed correctly because the pilots were rushing up to take off because of the bad weather. If the authorities had rescheduled the flights for half a day later nothing of these would have happened.
incredible that something as "simple" as finding the start of a runway can go so wrong.
Regardless of circumstances
Having flown out of TPE a lot I can have great sympathy for the Singapore crew, I remember that runway end very well and it used to be very dark and the markings and lights at 05r very dim.. And worse when you are at night at the edge of a typhoon. I was very familiar with that part of the airport before this accident happened. When I heard of it my heart sank, and I knew very much what it was.
Yes, I would blame the poor airport confidition more than the crew mistakes.
Absolute rubbish...do you work for Singapore Airlines.
A totally incompetent crew..
I said sympathy not reassignment of cause. That end of the airport was atrocious for years. And plop pilots that are accustomed to " following the green" into that was a disaster in the making. To say "Rubbish" strikes me as something a smug POME would say .
Maybe there should be a minimum set of requirements of high level, high grade instrumentats that an airport or airstrip should have before it is usable for landing and takeoff. Governments spend trillions on war and bullshit and are unable to implement simple safety measures for the citizens.
Barbaric.
@@jaytowne8016 You were obviously a passenger looking out of a little widow which, of course , make you fully qualified to comment.
It must have been so scary for you...was it dark ??
Bong...Bong! ...Bong !!!
This channel is quickly becoming one of my favourites. It literally just showed on my recommended page a couple days ago and it’s just pure excellence.
Amazing level of detail, an actual point of view from a pilot, and nice and long content to binge watch.
I accidentally stumbled upon this video within 15 mins of it's upload, I was watching another of your aircraft accident series and RUclips just autoplayed this video. I've never had such coincidences in my life happen to me before so it's always worth pressing the Subscribe button.
Awesome! Welcome to the channel. 👍🏻💕
I think by collating a clear concise and engaging record of significant aviation accidents this channel could make a serious contribution to improving air safety. I'd imagine videos like this would have more of an impact on those in the industry than just simply reading reports, because they are more memorable, and more engaging. This channel is a really brillaint project, always excellently executed.
The reports are much more detailed, and therefore of much more use.
@@hb1338 never read any so I don't know but I don't doubt you. I get what you are saying. I just think the videos really drive home the reality and magnitude of mistakes etc in a really vivid and memorable way, and as such might stick in the mind in a way a dispassionate report might not.
@@frank327 The NTSB, here in the U.S., began including documentary-style video reports along with their written reports a few years ago, and I believe they’ve been producing accident animations since well before that. I don’t know if bureaus in other jurisdictions do the same, but I’d be surprised if at least some of them (like the BEA in Europe) didn’t do something similar.
This video gives me a new appreciation for the workload of pilots and how much trust they have to put into other people doing their jobs correctly so they don’t make mistakes.
Exactly what I was thinking. You have to think about so many things at once, know all the physics behind it and be mentally switched on all the time.
I am not a pilot, but I am intrigued on how quickly things can go wrong in flying. Thanks for the expanding of my knowledge of aviation and I thoroughly enjoy your videos!
What a stunning example of how small decisions, like using a different runway, can have such a huge impact.
So much for planning and support to avoid danger
A pity that RAAS wasn't a thing back then. Could have prevented the whole situation altogether. A great video as always, Petter!
Yep, this was likely one of the reasons that system was implemented in the first place.
@@MentourPilot also because you know the irnony they were flyiong into KLAX lol most RW INCURSIONS in the world
Can you explain RAAS to us laymen?
Alternatively, they could have erected two or four flashing stop signs is some thoughtful fashion. And what's wrong with a laser to trigger an alarm in the control tower?
Forgive me for seeming impatient, but given the typhoon, this seems squarely on the airport.
@@russellsilver7385 The RAAS gives aural advisories relating to aircraft position during landing and takeoff. It's based on GPS and other data. If you go above 40 knots on the taxiway, it will assume you have made a mistake. However, the system relies on an up-to-date airport database in the aircraft's computers. These databases are probably not updated fast enough to cover every airport change. If it wasn't up to date, it would have advised them that they were lining up on the right hand runway, not the left. Then it would be up to the crew to acknowledge that they were on the wrong runway. So, it's still possible human error could have resulted in this accident even with RAAS.
Wow. Great report as always! How many airports guide airliners to the correct runway by turning on only the taxiway lights direct to the that runway, as you mentioned in this video? I’d not heard of that. This would only be possible when the airport is quiet? Right? It sounds both ingenious and dangerously coddling for pilots. I so enjoy your work and so appreciate your humanity, P! I would just love it if you’d stop using the word “toward” when “to” is the correct word, which it usually is. Please keep up the absolutely fantastic work! I hope you are being rewarded handsomely for your excellence!. Cheers! -DJ, PPL/SEL/SES
I feel so bad for those pilots. I have nothing but admiration and amazement that people in your profession can take on such responsibility
Excellent presentation again! Hearing the description by a practising pilot makes the story so much better than the TV presentation I have seen - and without all the emotional crap, too!
I have a colleague that drove down a road in the dark, then missed a sign and a traffic controller. Had to do a emergency break 300M later on the road because of a road crew working there. Lucky the crew was out drinking coffee when they here a noise. They stept outside where they see the truck heavily damaged with other materials. This is what happend, the traffic controller that supposed to stand there wave the traffic to make a right turn. needed to pee, so he decided because there was no traffic at that moment to do that. When he hear the truck coming he tried to get back but the truck flew by him and the truckdriver never saw him. First of my college was speeding he did an 85 where he should be doing a 60 so that was the mistake on his part. But you know how that goes hurry up the more Mileage the better. Second the traffic controller never should leave his post, and should have peed in front or the behind the car. then he wouldn't have missed the truck and this wouldn't never happend. Well my colleague did have a very expensive lesson. It cost him 6 months to recover from his leg injury. So he had no pay at that moment. The traffic controller was with another company because he was not fit to do the lone night shift's. At least that's what I heard. But this could have been far worse if the road workers didn't do a coffee brake. Just wanted to share this after the video..
Yeah, the world is full of these examples. The key is to investigate thoroughly so we can learn from them.
@@MentourPilot Yes and I think they learned both their lesson, he is driving a bit slower with the truck but also the company took their lesson we all now have a warning system in the truck when we miss something and the sensor picks it up it will engage the brake system automatically. Also on the newer trucks the computer read signs and will decelerate the truck to that speed. if you will get an accident with the system turned off you will pay a heavy fine from the company. so yes in this case we can drive saver now.
Its probably not that important, but just a note, that the path of the Typhoon was actually the reverse of what's shown in the animation (it first crossed the Philippines, then Taiwan from the South, and then dissipated by the time it got to Japan after the accident)
Yeah, the error is probably due to the triangles along the path of the typhoon on the image on Wikipedia look like arrows pointing away from Japan
Yes, every Typhoon in Taiwan arrives from east, south east or south. That is my experience of over 30 years living in Taiwan.
I work on a team that conducts failure investigations on equipment. The way you cover the failure investigation details is excellent. Hats off to you and the teams writing the incident reports. Every single incident has key takeaways to remember.
I was on the Thai Airways flight which took off before the illfated SQ flight. We were immediatelt hit by windshear not long after takeoff n moderate turbulence for abour an hour after that. Shocked to hear the news after landing in Bangkok.
Thanks Petter - a really great detailed explanation of this horrible accident. I remember it so well, but had never heard the full unedited story before.
I was also flying 747- 400s at the time, and had been to Taipei literally only a few months before the event, so it really hit home when it happened.
When I line up on the runway, I always tell myself out loud what runway I see in front of me. It's shocking that the crew couldn't see the gigantic "05R" painted on the runway. If the rain was so heavy that they couldn't see it should have been another huge warning. Thanks to Mentour Pilot for this high quality 'training' video.
depends, on EHAM i dont see 24either after the turn those letters are more meant for landing
I actually think this is quite possible that they didn’t see the 05R marking. As far as I know, the runways threshold is located directly on the taxiway leading up to both 05R and 05L, meaning that you will pass the threshold while turning of the taxiway. If the pilots are focused on the taxilights to make the turn work, especially concerning of sliding, it’s very possible that they didn’t recognized it. Also I don’t know if the threshold would eben be visible at all, the 747 is quite a long aircraft with a wide turning circle, meaning the marking could basically be hidden behind the aircrafts cockpit wall behind the F.O. Also keep in mind how high they sit above the ground, the 744s nose is further up front than the cockpit, often times blocking the view on parking stands and therefore requiring airport staff guidance.
The O5R signage had been removed by that contruction equipment during the conversion. ..
It was a taxiway with new green centre line lighting blue edge lights.
Don't note the track of the typhoon on this high quality training video..for a start.
It's wrong !!
There was no runway sign 05R to see as the surface had been converted to a taxiway with green centre line lighting and blue edge lighting.
Petter totally fails to mention this in his repetition of the Singapore white wash .
Can’t get enough of these videos. So fascinating. Thank you for the content. 💪🏻
Thank YOU for watching!
I've read about this crash before and thought there were so many lessons to be learned. You covered it very well and made it very interesting to hear about.
Even when some other show or channel has covered an accident, Mentour never fails to bring way more & accurate information. He should probably be hired as a consultant on various projects.
I was just watching previous episodes regarding air disasters and some other videos from Mentour Pilot and Mentour Now, when I noticed that this video was just uploaded half an hour ago. I was so excited at that moment, so here I am. Keep doing your amazing job!
Love these video investigations so much. Even though this info is in a final report, this format is infinitely easier to consume for pilots, crew and others. Thanks Mentor Pilot
Great level of technical detail again. Keep it up, that is what sets you apart.
This is truly something no flight crew should ever have to go through. Did they ever fly again? I read somewhere in the comments that the captain at least did, what about the others?
A year late in the comment, local Singaporean here and I can still remember this incident being heavily covered in the local news back in my childhood days, especially so when the country was proud of her national carrier, only for this incident to happened.
I was too young (about 11 yo) to understand the severity of this unfortunate event.
May the souls of the victims rest in peace.
It ought not to be happened had if they postpone the flight till the typhoon is away.
i disagree the typhoon is merely another challange for these skilled aviators
@@NikanDragosysSerpenDra There's a reason planes no longer depart in severe weather. This is it. Any kind of storm is cause to ground all air traffic affected. Period.
Better that people have to delay their holiday plans than crash, burn, and die from some human errors.
@@MGSLurmey they do still. It depends on your rules and region but that's always going to be relative.
@@MGSLurmey based on the information available to the pilots the conditions still allowed them to depart.
@@safcjcp was, but now the lesson had learned, and it should never be allowed anymore.
As a Singaporean, it makes me feel really sad as it's really an unfortunate incident that could have been avoided, reminding me of the Swiss Cheese model you explained in past videos. Thank you for this as I've only ever knew of SQ006 departing the wrong runway, but not to this great detail - like the difference in follow-the-greens at both airports.
(It actually came as a surprise to me when this accident was featured)
P.s. Ever since SQ006, SIA being really superstitious (it's seems to be an Asian thing) were reluctant to apply any special livery onto their planes and subsequently withdrawn the second 747 with the same livery, until our 50th independence where they painted two[?] Airbus A380 with SG50 branding.
They also changed the flight number to SQ30. I don't think SQ itself is superstitious, more like they have a lot of superstitious customers
@@truongkimson Its just a company belief, There is really no planes now within SQ that sports a special livery other than the compulsory star alliance branding, on 2 777-300ERs and one 737 max.
Seems the cheese grater system issue isnt working yet it keeps happening
Some of the accident videos remind me of pictures from the Tenerife disaster. You explained this incident very very well. I watch your videos because I pick up lessons that I apply to my life and my job. Keep up the good work thank you
Thanks @Mentour Pilot for doing this. I asked if you were going to do SQ006 Taipei Incident 3 months ago when you did the Tenerife Airport Disaster. Now it is a lot clearer to me. Great work as always!
Petter, I really love your channel. You explain things so well that even people with no technical knowledge can understand it. And the videos are of amazing quality.
Thanks, mate!
Petter, I have already watched and read ALL of these crash investigations through both primary and secondary sources but still end up watching yours because you are much better at putting it all in a comprehensive and digestible manner. They make more sense even though it's the same story. Well done as always.
Yep.
His analysis is the best I've seen about this incident to date
You talk alittle fast but I appreciate the detail and enthusiam you put into your dissertations.
I have studied this crash a lot and still found this fascinating and learned a few new things. Amazing video.
Amazing as always Mentour, you raise the bar with every instance of this series... just a humble request for you to cover the Air France 447 crash, I think that one would be amazing and it will be awesome to have your point of view of everything that went wrong on that particular flight... keep up the good work!
I have used some of the suggested techniques of slowing down, etc. when I was learning woodworking and when I learned to sail. I would imagine exactly what the movements of my hands when I was going to use a machine and what could possibly go wrong and what I would do in that case. Same with sailing. I would imagine all the possibilities of things that could go wrong and how I would handle them and then practice them with no other boats near me. I still use the technique today as I will go through everything before putting on my drywall stilts for a job I'm doing today. I will even plan on what happens if I lose my balance and fall. My phone will be on me securely and in a place that is unlikely to be damaged so I can call someone if I hurt myself. So far I've never been hurt in all my adventures and all my different careers. This is one reason I love this channel. He reminds us of all the personal checklists for safety and to be aware of our bias toward assumptions in all of our endeavours.
We need you to join in Mentor's pilot training program. Thinking like yours will make great supplementary skills for all profession's safety, especially pilots.
This reminds me of a similar incident that happened in King Khalid Airport where Jet Airways pilot attempted to take off from a taxiway that was parallel to the runway. Likely he realised his mistake before coming to a full stop on the ditch all passengers were safe.
Unsure how your channel came into my view but loving it. My husband was a pilot, US ex- military and always made me feel safe.
Even though he was killed in a similar situation I still enjoy flying. Thank you for your in-depth analysis of these flights.
Another amazing video. I can really appreciate the quality of the video and information that you put out. The best part of the video is your absolute professionalism and your love of teaching aviation. It really shows. Take care and stay safe.
While the accidents you report on and break down are terrible, I still really enjoy the way you make everything so understandable. I hope that pilots also watch your channel and learn from the mistakes of others.
What a lot of these disasters have in common is that they walk up a "stairway" of errors that by themselves are not consequential but lead to a moment that is consequential
In this case I identified 6 contributory factors. If any one of the six had not occurred, it is highly likely that the crash would not have happened.
Petter, your attention to detail and excellent explanation are superb! Such a tragic accident. I thoroughly enjoy your content (on both of your channels) -- very well done in ALL aspects!! Thank you so much for all you do! 💕✈✈💕
I love your videos because I learn a lot about planes and airport procedures. I love plains and flying, but I don't have the knowledge that you have. Thanks for teaching me.
Rest in peace all of the victims. My condolences to all of their loved ones.
Amazing video sir! Thanks for explaining! I always learn something new from your videos appreciate your effort! 🙏
I’m happy to hear that, it’s my goal with this channel!
I am a Titanic Enthusiast and that got me interested in, shall I say, forensic discussions on why and how man-made disasters happen, such as the Hindenburg, the Lusitania sinking, plane crashes, etc. I have seen many of these plane incidents covered on other outlets, like "Air Disasters," "Mayday" and "Seconds from "Disaster," but I really love your channel and how you explain things from a pilot's perspective. Great job. Anyway, I DO have a couple of questions about this particular accident. I know with ALL man-made disasters, hindsight is 20/20, but why wasn't the flight canceled outright? My second question is that when the plane was pushed back in the wrong direction, why didn't the crew NOTICE their error? Thanks.
As explained in the video, the plane was not pushed back in the “wrong” direction, but different to what they had been briefed. The recognised this correctly and took the according route. The mistake was that they didn’t carry on past runway 05R, which was closed.
Also clear from the video: The decision to cancel this flight would have been the pilots’ to make. They decided to go ahead, and did not know that they should have been assessing the possibility of water contamination themselves, as they were used to airport systems taking care of this.
The flight channel is good too
@@andrewpearce2562 I realized what the mistake was, but however, I now understand more clearly about the contamination and such. Thanks
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover cheers!
@@TitanicHorseRacingLover it may not have been contaminated and the same disaster occur. And as the video shows, due to the bad lighting setup and that it was a runway it looked like one. They hadn't used it before. Due to the lighting failures it would've looked like the last turning. They are completely dependant on the lighting here which was inadequate.
Petter, as usual, fantastic video, great review and a pleasure to watch your content. Thanks to your entire Team and you for making these.
Appreciate the effort you put into these life and death lessons that go beyond aviation.
With a complicated taxi route, at night and in poor weather, a "Follow Me" vehicle would have prevented the accident.
Complicated taxi route, bad waether ,n missunderstanding could eventualy the 'Follow me' vehicle also lead you to the wrong runway ...
@@karim.h7249 Then obviously you just have a 'follow me' vehicle for the follow me vehicle.
or reading the fucking sign next to the runway brightly shining against a yellow background can help
@@medved7153 A small badly-lit sign at ground level viewed from 75 feet up and obscured by water all over the windscreen - much more easily said than done. Try it next time you are sitting in the jump seat.
@@karim.h7249 much less likely. Thats the reason they have pilots for ships.... local knowledge.
There is actually a bit more to this. I was one of the people involved in the technical support for the investigation from the Singapore side. Based on some of the things you mention, it would appear that you managed to get hold of the CAAS report which is better than the Taiwan CAA report. However, that still doesn’t tell the full story. Thank you for this video and analysis of such a tragic event.
Hey Philip! Thank you for your feedback. What additional points should have been included?
When I create these, I do so based strictly on the information available in the final report. If there are other reliable sources, I would love to know where to find them.
@@MentourPilot Hi, I'll put together and send you an email on this. Cheers, Philip
@@philipcraig956 Will this be released publicly? and updated video created by Mentour Pilot?
@@MentourPilot I've sent you an email and hope you find it of interest
@@jloh80 I would not expect it to change. Mentour Pilot's assessment is very good and covers the ASC report well.
You are such a fantastic "story teller" - that even your sponsor segments (Ads) are interesting to listen to. I commend you not only for your deep professional expertise, but also for your outstanding ability to communicate information to others.
This presentation was so captivating. It felt like a movie into the climax of impact, and I couldn't take my eyes off the video.
Great job, unmatched production value
Thanks for your amazing work
I am impressed how beautifull and clear the graphics and animations are. The excellent presentation makes it very interesting and lovely to watch.
Perhaps you can publish an episode behind the scenes and how its made.
Keep up the good work
Jacques
It seems the maximum crosswind component should take into consideration emergency slide deployment and not just aerodynamic forces.
Boeing recommends not deploying the slides in wind conditions greater than 25kt.
This channel is gold . I admire people like you , that puts so much effort and detail in their work .
If more people were so meticulous in their work we would have a better world with less mishaps.
This is how the Air Crash Investigations series should look like. Great work! :)
One of the things that continues to surprise me in 2022 is that the aviation industry makes essentially no use of modern digital camera technology. Digital cameras are now dirt cheap, but there are not (as far as I know) any cameras in distant parts of the airfield that could tell the tower where the plane is even if weather makes them invisible from the tower. Likewise, there don't seem to be any cameras on commercial aircraft pointing toward the engines, control surfaces, or tail. Likewise, I'm not aware of use of GPS waypoints for use during taxi. Also, why are complex international routing waypoints hand-programmed into flight computers rather than being automatically downloaded then verified by the crew. It seems that the industry has fallen significantly behind in use of modern digital technology.
Cameras on aircraft external control surfaces and critical elements (and internal areas like cargo holds, Avionics bays, wheel wells, under floor and above ceiling cavities etc) should be essential equipment, but for some reason it is not considered necessary - would have prevented dozens of catastrophic out of control fires, mis-configured take off and landings, confirmation that landing gear is down or up etc.
And whenever you see imagery from the limited airport CCTV it is usually crappy 140p 1970s style quality !!
They also should have cameras in the passenger cabin.... imagine if we could have seen what happened in the planes during 9/11.... altho the caneras data would have probably been destroyed when the planes hit the towers
You will need people who watching tis cameras too and they must have a minimum of IQ to report things which going wrong. Useless!
Something that particularly surprises me about accident reports is the amount of information being extrapolated from sensors that don't actually show the information that is wanted by the operators.
Eg, in the Three Mile Island accident they were figuring out whether a valve is open or not by the temperature, and weren't crystal clear on the water level in the reactor.
It's very weird that despite such past history, we still have pilots having to guess at what is happening because they can't see whether something got ripped off the aircraft, and even more bizarre that in huge, stationary infrastructure like airports and power plants there are still plenty blind spots.
Thank you for your terrific analysis - with visual aids. As a passenger, I always pay attention to where the Emergency exits are and count how many rows I am from them. I wear sensible shoes/clothing and always pay attention to the cabin staff despite hearing the safety information dozens of times - they may need to save my life. I would feel very secure with you as 'my' pilot with your diligence and striving for accuracy. Sometimes, however - it is not Pilot error and simply what was meant to be. Kindest regards Mentour Pilot :)
Wonderful video! You have helped me get over many of my fears of flying and have even inspired me to look into getting my private pilot's license. Thank you for always making high quality content for your viewers and aviation lovers!
I never feared flight but I was curious how it worked. I read a book and joined the AirForce in USA. Fixed planes & then flew them. It was always intriguing watching Skyking James Bond movies and 12 o'clock High. Just not understanding can produce fear. Simulators help too.
Your documentaries are getting better and better ..you should definitely do one about JAL 123 ,heartbreaking beyond words ,the CVR is the saddest thing I've ever heard,those poor pilots ...keep up the good work 👏 🙌 👍
The pilots actually also noted that the runway lights on 05R were turned on, and that caused them to turn into and line up on the wrong runway…
In the accident report, the Taiwanese authorities placed the blame solely on the pilots, but made no mention of the wrong runway lights being turned on, and the construction crew leaving their equipment unattended on a closed runway instead of clearing out machines on.. they essentially left their toys lying around in a dark room, and blamed the pilots for tripping over them in the dark…
Every one was at fault - the pilots were one factor of many. The airport was extremely negligent in firstly not having ground radar, not putting in place systems that fully managed the safety of the runway works, and allowing vague and incorrect runway marking lights and lack of wig wag runway entry points - inadequate weather and runway contamination given to the pilots, inaccurate communication by the ground controller, etc. Probably both crew and airport management of equal blame. As this channel always asserts though it is important that lessons learnt don't repeat, but without firstly apportioning blame it can't improve if factors that caused these disasters aren't in some way brought to account, and face severe ramifications (apart from crew potentially being killed)
Tragic. Ridiculous. If 5R had been a UK road, there would have been a sign at its threshold showing that a man is struggling to open an umbrella inside a big red reflective triangle. Regardless, there could have been a barrier across the end of 5R to stop aircraft turning into it.
No there couldn't, since it was being used as taxiway
@@MatthijsvanDuin Study the map in the video.
@@etangdescygnes Watch the video and think.
@@hb1338 Look at the map presented in the video. The barrier on 5R, far from its ends, was positioned to block aircraft entering precisely that part into which the aircraft turned, from the end. For this section, there was an alternative, parallel taxiway which the pilots had used. Therefore a barrier could have been placed across the end of 5R, and at the very least, a big red warning triangle, and the words "NO ENTRY, WORK IN PROGRESS".
Thank you Mentour Pilot.✔Your expertise analysis into these incidents is always so impressive! ✈⭐
Seen a few videos and documentaries on this. First time someone has discussed the difference in the taxi lighting between the two airports used by the crew. None that I recall questioned the taxi instructions. This was well done.
Thank you for another Awesome video. It's so intersting hearing a pilot explain what really happend. I would like to request if you could make a video of the Air France 447 crash which is one of the most tragic human error accidents...
Your great analyses of these disasters deserves more recognition. You should be hosting the mainstream air crash investigation shows on The Smithsonian Channel and others .
Thank you! You never know what happens 😂😉
In UK air crash investigation is aired on the National Geographic Channel back to back..
sometimes over a 24 hour period they show season after season over the whole wkend
To be honest, I prefer the less dramatic presentations of Captain Hörnfeldt (Mentour Pilot) on this very good channel. The air crash investigation-stories mostly overdramatize the things that happened to make it sound more bombastic or tragic. Mr. Mentour's analysis is always pragmatic and focused on the possibilities of improvement, which is very positive and inspiring. I'm always excited when I see that a new episode arrived. :D
RUclips > Legacy ("mainstream") Media
Mainstream would be a downgrade, IMO.
Agree!
You are the most impressive aviation youtubers of all with all your enthusiasm to show the hard work of your colleagues in the industry to make it the biggest wonder of human history. Flying is one the feelings people love but consider dangerous and the world needs your pov to see it like us aviation lovers.
I have been watching your channel for while now,I really love it! You are what I want and expect of every pilot of the planes I step on! But to see you in this mode was awesome! Love your show Sir!
There's one other small issue with the construction barricade; they were using red lights.
Red light is the most difficult colour to see at night, especially under poor conditions, which is why if we're driving during snowstorms or heavy fog we turn our 4-way indicators on, because the yellow light is much easier to see than our red running lights.
Medical should learn from the aviation industry
I flew with him as a first officer bout 10 years ago, not knowing he was the captain in this accident
I really love your content. As someone who has an irrational fear of flying, but is well aware of it being irrational, watching your content has helped me overcome that. Seeing how much has to go wrong in order for there to be a catastrophic incident is actually very reassuring.
I remember this disaster and you're providing so much additional info I never heard the first time around regarding the wrong right turn onto the wrong runway... And so TRUE... ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR GUT AND OBEY. I've been burned badly a few times by telling my gut to shut up!...convincing myself that it was just being paranoid.
This story is particularly sad because the crew (and especially the captain) were taking care and doing everything right up to the last point of turning onto the wrong runway. I think the captain must have felt such relief that they thought they were at the correct point that his mind was desperate for the release "after all this stress and care, let's just get off the runway now".
I'm sure they must blame themselves totally for mssing several chances to confirm the runway at the last minute.
I think someone would blame themselves for loosing people onboard a plane, they will always replay it in their minds and think of what if