HTC Vive Focus 3 Review - Worth It For VR Gaming?
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2021
- I get hands on with the brand new HTC Vive Focus 3 standalone VR headset. In this video, I'll unbox the HTC Vive Focus 3 and give you all the information you need to know on the specs, design, FOV, resolution, price, release date and much much more...
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06/07/21 - Quick Update - The headset actually features dual displays, not a single display as I said in the video []-)
Thanks for the clarification:)
lol
Not enough to sell us over 😂
You should probably pin this comment so that it doesn’t get burried
Okay now I'm definitely getting one. Said nobody. Great fair review!
You just talked me out of buying one. Thanks 🙏
Its not a consumer hmd even tho its being sold to consumers as a enterprise HMD, its $1,300 those two facts alone should be enough.
dude wtf is your channel?
@@swishasweetrold that's why he talked him OUT of buying one
@@mnbvcx7091 Shit marketed to kids. You don't want to go onto that side of youtube.
@@weegle. oh I was high when I read that I thought it said “into” not “out of” lol
Really like the look of his headset, looks like the index and a quest had a baby
But it sucks
@@josueavila5210 he said it looks good
@@drcastaway that doesn't really matter i mean what i said was totally true it looks cool except it sucks in performance
Yeah.. and it seems like the price is also a baby of a quest and the index
@@SGR96 wdym the price is similar to the quest 2? Quest 2 is super cheap
THE QUALITY! Have been watching you for a while, and all i can say is: you've improved a lot! Love the unboxing!
Thanks mate! I appreciate that []-)
I started watch thinking “oh maybe a new headset?” And then he said the price and my head went🤯
The quest would be around the same price but Facebook sells your data and soon ads in quest home and games
@@sleepless9003 wdym sells your data?🤨🤨🤨
@@sleepless9003 there's no way Oculus is making up for $1000 based on your personal data. It isn't worth anywhere near that much.
Went other way. I knew the price and I came to see it get trashed. It's a good headset and not bad for the price. Aimed at business and VR lovers. You've gotta really love VR at this price point. I've spent that and more on a single one. I own pretty much every non Vive headset. In fact, I've never owned one ever. Got a reverb G2 sitting brand new unused lol. I'd probably change lovers to obsessed lol.
This and it's been my problem with all of HTC's offerings. I get that it's an enterprise headset but the Quest needs some serious competition, and at prices like this we're unlikely to see it for a while.
I'm still rocking my HTC Vive from 2015. I've upgraded the lenses with the "gear VR mod" from fresnel to smooth, added prescription lenses from VR Optician on top of that (courtesy of a special 3D-printed mount from Etsy that supports both sets of lenses), the Vive Wireless mod, the "deluxe audio" headstrap, and I've fastened a pair of batteries on the curved back of the headstrap with Scotch Fasteners (basically super velcro) so that the entire thing, batteries and all, is contained on my head. The whole thing is heavy, but balanced, so it feels much less restrictive than the weight alone would suggest. And now that I've gone wireless from the PC, I can't go back. My Frankenstein is still the only combination that I've seen that is (1) wireless and (2) natively supports the Steam store out of the box (specifically Sairento and Half-Life: Alyx). I want the Index, but it isn't wireless. The Quest 2 looks great, but it doesn't natively support the Steam store. So for now I'm stuck with my Frankenstein headset.
A lot of games on the Steam store are ironically Rift only, and if you use a Vive, you can't 'natively' play those games. However, if you use Virtual Desktop to play SteamVR with your Quest 2, it's completely wireless and acts like a Rift on Rift games and like a Vive on other games. It's the most convenient, comfortable, and inexpensive solution. I say this as I regularly use my Vive and Vive Pro Eye and only use the Quest 2 every few weeks at most. In my case, the Quest 2 is simply too small for my face/head. I want to get a better strap for the Quest 2 and try using Index controllers with it soon.
@@syrsly273 I'll try looking into that. Thanks for the idea. I'm just concerned about the processing power required by games that assume a wired connection. Can the Quest 2 handle that?
@@amdreallyfast Ive seen some don on twitch playing Alyx with his wireless quest 2
I've had no issues with the Quest 2 and Steam.
honestly, get the quest 2 and a ~60-70 dollar wifi 6 router and its amazing, I've been using it nonstop
10:17 "here's what the vive focus sounds like compared to the quest 2"
Focus: Fan noises
Quest: RUclips Ad.
Pretty accurate.
wheres the timestamp for that
Lol just happend to me
Lol. Same.
Thanks Facebook
I had to go to a non-premium account to understand this meme, good one
The microphone sounds like those podcasts in the morning when they call people
Lol! 🤣
Worse lol
Awesome review as always mate!! ✌️
We need more competition in the space, for sure. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for all the reviews really will help my start to the vr world
Wow I was soooo close to buying this. Thank you so much for the tips!
thank you for your dedication to VR tech. makin the effort to buy and then review this awesome.......
They need to hire this guy to test their vr products during the testing phase. Great vid
Isn't that what most RUclipsrs are doing? It is also called a paid advertisement/promotions
Couldn't agree more !!
He couldn’t really test it anyway because it’s not made for consumers
Don't need to hire a testing guy if you don't have a testing phsse. *Taps temple*
Thanks for taking the time to test this thing out.
Cheers Ghostie! []-)
I'm enjoying watching these videos while waiting to be able to be able to use my Valve Index once I'm back home from university! :D
Great informative review. I had higher expectations for this. I think now I will wait on this and or see the what the other ones will be like coming out.
VR IS THE FUTURE
Agreed!
Sadly it’s not the present.
Sadly it’s not the present.
@@JCMaldonado13 it is at my house.
Thanks for taking one for the team m8 :)
Wish there was more happening in VR right now but damn, the QUALITY of your videos is up there with the best man!
Not much money to be made in vr right now. The only companies that get enough advertisement to sell their VR to people who dont game are facebook and sony (oculus and PSVR) every other vr product is pretty much advertised within the vr or gamer community only. Im surprised VR is still being worked on like it is.
Press F in chat for Mike's wallet. Thank you for bringing us the reviews.
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im sticking with my quest2. i love it. thanks for the review. great vid!!
Hope they have better battery life than 2 hours. That would be the thing that makes me not want it.
Thanks for the in-depth review and unbias remarks. I was so close to buying it. Thanks for making my decision better.
Your videos are always great
Good evening Mike I definitely respect you pay 1300 pounds of your money to review the vive focus 3. I would also like to thank you for reviewing every headset and being honest about the feelings about them. Keep up the good work.
I like looking at things I can’t afford.
Me to hahah
even if you can its garbage
I can
@@mr.mysteriousyt6118 how?
Get an oculus quest two its kinda cheap and its so fun and has great quality
Awesome review as always 👌👌👍
Your mic quality is really good, and video production is much better than 3 years ago.
I like the idea of the removable battery that acts as a counterweight. Have two of these batteries and charge one while you use the other
Well… you have no choice. You have to buy a second battery if you want to play for longer than 2 hours. Forcing you into buying a second battery is a real dealbreaker. What device in 2022/2023 can't be charged while being used, that's nonsense
"no" - the 16 minute extended mix!!!!
Great vid. I really appreciate the honesty of the review. New sub and another like headed your way!
Thanks for the honest review Mike.
2 hours of playtime is kind of unacceptable, honestly. Especially if you can't charge and play at the same time.
very true. im gonna stick with my quest 2 which i got last friday and i love it
@@DayzJunky same
@@DayzJunky probably the reason why its a swappable battery, HTC wants you to buy more than 1 battery
Personally I don't mind it, you should be taking regular breaks from VR anyway and with a second battery pack you don't have to wait for it to charge.
@@TropicalCyc it's swappable, but it's not hotswappable. Which is painful, you need to reload Android, restart the game, reconnect and etc.
Hopefully this leads to a future where HTC can someday release an actual competitor to the quest for around the same price.
never gonna happen!
Excellent review ... thanks a lot for your honesty
I jusst got your vrcover and do not regret it. The vrcover is very comfy so thanks
It just shows how crazy of a value the quest 2 is.
Its subsidized, I dont know how much, but Meta had admitted even after the priceincrease its not inner value hardware profitable, as per se, hence Meta's BOM cost...
Just makes me happier knowing I made the right choice getting the Quest 2. Another good video :D
That was brilliant, see you in the holodeck!
GREAT! review. You pack so much into it it feels longer than 15 minutes. My only gripe is that an overlay showing the names of the games you were playing would be GREATLY appreciated.
Liked and already subbed.
ill stick with my half month old quest 2 thank you.
you'll have less grief too.lol
Good for you then dude
I have a few month old quest 2 and a index and i gotta say i might buy this
The hidden usbc port in the front will support the Eye-tracking mod and face tracking mod.
Considering we now know the next Oculus headset will have granular face and eye tracking, that would make a ton of sense. Would also give developers using the platform a cheap way to upgrade to the new consumer standard.
I picked one up, it finally came!
You are more than wonderful, you use simplicity with politeness and humility in criticism
I learn a lot from you
I really like your calm
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They should release a PC only headset with this exact same form factor - take out the battery and phone parts and tether it to the PC with a proper video cable. Would be a decent competitor to the Reverb G2 and Index. Basically a Vive Cosmos but with good tracking, longer lasting controller battery and none of the modular nonsense.
I’m surprised that even the quest one has 2-3 hours of battery life and this has only two and a half, the battery situation is very interesting
Indeed that's what I was thinking, quest is quiet amazing tbh
Q2 doesn't use the XR2 at its full potential and has low quality screens that's why.
As @Sofian said, the Focus 3 isn't gimping the XR2 SoC like the Quest 2 is, and it also has more power going to the fan that is cooling it off. These use the battery faster.
The issues/limitations of the design mentioned in this video definitely prove it isn't intended for consumer use, even more than the high price does.
That's because the Vive Pro 2 has an industrial fan to power.
@@Sofian375 dang.. how powerful are these android chips. They gotta add these to phones
Well done video sir! Its all delivered well and gives off some Newegg vibes.
Talked me into buying a quest 2 thank you. Plus that mic vs Q2 sounds hell of a lot better.
I feel like this is gonna be a great hedset and reveiw Mike!
Oof lmao
The issue with this headset is the same I've had with all of HTC's sets, they look great but everyone is priced out.
Thank you so much for the review. Saved me some money.
Think il just by the valve index.
Great video! Love your accent!
it looks cool but i think imma stick with saving up for a valve index
DONT
@@TopTenFactsTTF_ why
Get the oculus quest 2 it has airlink witch means no wires Is and it's only $300 opposed to the $1000 valve index
@@jonathanjarvis8999 Search videos up the q2 is better
Valve is crap compared to the quest 2 VALVE IS SO FRAGILEEE
love all the new wireless headsets that are coming out!
Excellent review. Cheers.
Definitely my favourite looking headset ever made. Just beats the index and behind that is the Vive pro (original).
Crazy that the Quest 2 microphone sounds almost as good as your own.
Equally crazy is how awful the Focus 3 mic is. _Yikes._
@@Cimlite 1300 dollars btw
Ofcource u have a Facebook bug listening 24/7 to you it has to be good :)
@@Boemel yeah
I can confirm all the issues described here, it's spot on, unfortunately. In my opinion not a chance against Quest 2 for now, easy pick for consumers.
Good honest review
Just catching this one, thanks for doing it.
Totally not buying one.. that was an excellent review.. I've subbed to see if all your reviews are that good :)
Thanks for the honest review. I'm holding on to my OG Quest until ???
how did you make yours more comfortable? I'd love to play more, but it's so frigging front heavy
👍👍💯Thanks for the review.
Excellent review thankyou 🙂
Aimed at business and enterprise markets... 2 hour battery life, can't charge while playing... Does it at least come with an additional battery?
Nope, you have to spend extra
Even if you get a second battery you can't hot swap them so you have to save everything, shut down, swap batteries, reboot, and then reload all your work... For an enterprise market having the damn thing charge while it's plugged in probably makes 1000% more sense.
Makes me really appreciate my quest 2 more
Q2 is great tech but a privacy invader. Pass until a better product comes from a competitor.
That's what I was thinking too !!
@@whatsupbudbud i bet you carry around a smartphone all day that tracks you anyway
@@mortimermouse3086 I try not to. 👌
@@whatsupbudbud theres no way out your being tracked as we speak might as well enjoy it a little xD
amazing review
This is dedication. Spending that much on a Chanel
The USB in front is used for opti-track caps.
I wonder if his sleeping mask is a vr headset :)
Honestly ive noticed everything that you mentioned here except for the fan noice during the hour or so i played vr using the focus 3 but that mainly was due to the noise level because i was using it at a mess. But it was nice to see that i didnt experience any motion sickness wich led me to ordering a quest 3 that will arrive in about 1 or 2 weeks from now👍
great video...also is that a proximat that you were standing on???
Yes mate []-)
@@VirtualRealityOasis recently got one myself. REALLY helps from the pain i feel with my flat feet and scoliosis
I’ve been using them for years now. Great product []-)
Hey Mike what are ur thoughts on the valve index 2 do u think it will come soon
Of course it will come, we just don't know when as they r still making the headset
Hopefully it will be cheaper. 1K is a hard to bite on. If the Index was $600 id have bought that
@@ArkonBlade ik, for ppl who already have base stations or had a vive, the index headset is just $500 and well worth the price. But for ppl who don't have any base stations already or any headset for that matter then yea $1k is a bit too much. But if u don't care and r a VR enthusiast then the 1k index kit is by far a great deal for a great headset.
@@tylerdurden6917 I think they need to move away from base stations, it's a non-starter for a lot of people.
@@4879daniel it is but it's still one of the best methods for tracking as it's alot smoother and tracks alot more accurately than current inside out tracking methods. But still I think it's more convenient for companies to start iterating and adding Inside out tracking to their future visors that can be on par with base station level tracking, and we r very close to making that happen in the next couple years so base stations will soon be a thing of the past. We just need the inside out tech to improve alot more, so much so that we will no longer need base stations as a method for accurate tracking.
I didn't even know there was a focus or focus 2 lol
Very interesting review Mike. I am sure it made Quest owners feel good lol. Let's face it the Q2 is amazing value, has a terrific eco system and is constantly improved.
Excellent Review!!!
I feel like an improved consumer version would do well even at $499 and compete well with Oculus.
That would mean a massive loss since Quest is around $800-$1300 without profit from data collection. HTC collects data from the US to sell to CCP at a rate that they can't compete against facebook.
Also, HTC only makes enterprise-focused products.
Fix the mic, make it playable while charging, put a display port on the headset, and I would buy it
Vive is really having a tough time keeping up with the VR market, and it’s starting to show
It's BEEN showing it at a pathetic level. They don't even try to copy each other anymore. The HTC Vive made sense, the inside out tracking was a win but everything else about the Oculus has always been the appeal.
Facebook is some how still on top while being one of the worst supporters for it. You get a well made headset with hidden unwanted features, then you have this steaming pile in the corner.
It's honestly bringing me to tears. The market is toxic at this point, the consumers are fine but the competition is close to none existing. It would've been fine if any other company could've competed but HTC has failed beyond belief.
@@notlNSIGHT
I understand that but unlike with something like consoles no other competing headset is able to stay in the loop.
"I don't like the Quest, what are my other options?"
"Crappy and no support"
The market used to be Oculus Vs Vive and even though it kind of still is it's not as lively as it used to be.
Metaphor: A game where one person wins all of the time is a game that no one wants to play and eventually it's no longer as engaging.
A flat market might as well be a dead market. The PSVR is still a thing but idk.
@@djprogramer973 At least, there is something new possibly coming up from other companies, such as Varjo, Lynx (Kickstarter), Arpara (totally Chinese), but I doubt those will make a serious competition any time soon. However, some of them might end up being actually decent and affordable, and without the flaws of their competitors. Also, microLED tech is maturing, and that should be a huge improvement in weight, visual quality and battery life.
I had some hopes on Pimax a long time ago but, unfortunately, they are far from being a serious competitor to Oculus and HTC.
@@camelCased
Ya by all means I can't wait to see what they produce.
I just think that Facebook caused the whole market to be set back a little but it's also not their fault that the competition failed.
HUGE UPSIDE: standardized tracking technology and controller configuration is so common so atleast everything isn't starting from square one.
Hard to compete in an unbalanced market. Facebook has money to burn and is playing the long game. In these early stages they are backing their hardware at a loss (oculus/meta). There are few competitors, so right now it's easy for Meta to crush anything that comes along (who else can sell $1000+ hardware for $400?). Once they have dominated the market and destroyed the competition, then we'll see their real plan and pay the real price. Aaaaaaand, it's no secret their overt intentions to control every aspect of the hardware, software, and YOU.
If they just made this more like the quest it would be killer. It's looks dope and storage add on is great. The angle on the strap seems to be the comfort issue.
I know this channel is all about vr but one day could we PLEASE get a setup tour and a look at your pc
I did one a little while back if you search for VR setups episode 1 on my channel. Not much has really changed other than a few tweaks if you want to check it out []-)
Facequest 2 is still the obvious choice for most of us.
Bruh the facebook part aint that big of a factor jeez
@@quicksaus4986 it is lol
Its everywhere in tge operating system it doesnt bother you but its there
@@unknownuwu3890 it might be but if it doesn’t bother me i don’t count it
@@quicksaus4986 the problem is not you not bothering, it's that you think just because you don't care, no one should
@@quicksaus4986 it’s the reason I sold my quest after only a month, Facebook fucked me in the ass with the new headset
God damn it. The more time passes the more i'm getting pushed towards a new quest headset.(i have an og quest) If the valve wireless headset (wich isn't even confirmed yet) is not my next headset i'm afraid i'll have to go for the quest 3 or something... i'm patiently waiting for an alternative to the quest for both pcvr and standalone. I'm still really happy with my og quest tbh and there's not too many things that bothers me with it but time is running out. I'll have to connect a facebook account really soon.
i have a VR headset idea if you want to hear it
@@neojenshi4055 wtf just say it lmao
@@Dindonmasker Nebula Y1: (retail $499.99) A standalone hybrid vr set (you can plug it into steam right out the box) a headset with specs similar to vive cosmos. with dual aux ports, usb type c port, mini display port, and a Micro sd port. Has 4 ir cameras and 2 1440p cameras. I was also thinking for a experiment kind of system for the headset where vive trackers/cameras could connect to the headset itself (no pc required) and get full body tracking
.Also thinking of a experimental system where we use the display port to use the gpu within the HMD as a External GPU, allowing you to play vr games on the pc without a graphics card.
@@neojenshi4055 thanks i'll check it out!
@@neojenshi4055 i can't find anything about it. What's the name of the company making it?
Thanks for this video ! while doing the review and giving comments about improvements, do you /did you get from VIVE contact or a roadmap to take in accounts you comments ?
This headset is what the vive pro 2 should have been
I’m so sorry for your wallet mike 😥
Hey Mike, any chance to make updated video about the Focus3 with the eye tracking?
Thank you. This was information I was hoping to see. I'm sad that it won't be so great to replace the Oculus 2.
You took your time with this one. I hope its worth it.
Wait how did you comment that ten hours before
@@Short_giraff Hmmm. Consider how some channels work on RUclips and you will find your answer ;)
@@gothknight6 ik the vid was premiered I was just saying that to confuse ppl
@@Short_giraff You genius!
I got to say the Quest 2 could do with a fan even if its a little loud. According to its head designer, the quest 2 leaves quite a bit of power on the table due to the fact that it doesn't have a fan to cool it down. So they had to underclock it.
It does have a fan, just a very quiet slow one with very narrow slits for air flow.
i didnt know u can crack jokes so good like that
I wouldn’t have thought the headset mic quality was that good
NOICE
Noooice
The fact that 16 people disliked makes me more sad than the fact that the headset costs $1,300
Alot of people dislike by accident
I can’t see dislikes anymore on RUclips
@@shreksslave3264 what are you on about?
Great review. I prefer the microphone 🎤 quality of the Quest 2.
I like the idea of a seperate battery if there was another in the box, at least when the battery gives up holding a charge you can replace it
Yeah the quest 2 is just so much better.
Aye
i'd get the quest 2 but i feel like facebook is too invasive for me I have many things to hide don't ask questions btw
But for PCVR its practically garbage, my friend has got one, while i got the Rift S and he always complains about compression, latency and other buggy shit.
Wether he used the link cable or completely wireless, even tho people praise the wireless it's basically trash... just compare Beatsaber standalone VS pcvr , then you'll see how fucked up wireless still is.
@@mistadude facebook doesnt care about you
@@boratsagdiyev1586 I don’t have a pc. If I did I would get pc vr. But for a stand alone headset. I think the quest 2 delivers very well
Man spent 1300$ on headset that gets blown out of the water by a 300$ headset. Thank you for your sacrifice 🙏
1000 euro less to become a facebook slave hmmmmm
@@michelverheijen6643 having an account on a website makes you a slave like sticking feathers up my ass makes me a chicken. Try not to be so dramatic. Comparing slavery and having a facebook account... ffs..
@@Thezuule1 exactly… people are being so dramatic about the Facebook thing
@@BardioTheGoat I'm logged into a Facebook account I haven't posted on in 4 years. I no longer have any autonomy.. I also have Alexa devices, Google devices, Apple devices, Ring devices, etc and all have to be logged into their respective services. Nothing about this is abnormal given the state of things. Shitting on Facebook for making you log into a device like your TV and everything else does is just silly imo.
Lol
I'd say that the usb-c port under the nose would be for the facial tracking device. You can also se the little sockets for the facial tracker pins.
Great video!
Cheers mate! []-)
I was out as soon as you said LCD, in a time when owning an OLED TV at home is fast becoming the meta, those washed out black LCD panels are looking very old hat. For that price tag I'd definitely want an Oled screen, and 120hrz at that!
There has to be a reason all the VR headsets have moved toward LCD. I assume it relates to response time, pixel persistence, etc. Black levels are only one part of the equation to make the experience feel good.
@@Thezuule1 yeh I absolutely agree, I just wish the tech would catch up, after enjoying true blacks on the Q1, LCDs are still taking some getting used to especially on horror games which is what I mainly play. I appreciate LCD screens had more to offer in terms of advancement regards frame rates, resolution etc, maybe when Oleds catch up that will roll out again in future headsets, although I'd bet my house the real reason that tech isn't available yet is because Facebook want to keep cost down at the moment to encourage uptake.
@@dirtytechno4948 the thing though is that none of the new headsets that have come out or are slated to come out seem to be using OLED panels. There has to be some reason behind the scenes if even the premium level PC headsets are sticking with LCD displays. I assume it's some technical thing that just makes them more suited for the kind of low latency stuff you're trying to do with a VR headset. If you're really sold on OLED there's a always Pimax gear but I don't know of anyone else who makes an OLED headset atm.
@@Thezuule1 just did a bit of research and yeh its got to be a costing issue, the latest Samsung S21 has a 2400 x 1080 pixels, 424 PPI AMOled screen that runs at 120hrz, 2 of those would that would piss over any existing lcd display, Colour range, refresh rate, lag and even lower power consumption it wins in all departments, but two AMOled screens (ideally for IPD slider) in a VR headset would drive costing up massively, that's the reason why it's not the meta, the production process is just too costly at this point for it to be viable, a good all rounder is what VR needs right now to keep things cheap and good value, and that is LCD. For now we'll just have to wait. I'll checkout that other Oled thanks for the info.