She reminds me of one of my very favourite people; Sister Wendy. I am so terribly sad that she is gone and that the world has been deprived of such a deeply creative and emotionally intelligent human being.
Sister Wendy was less judgemental and she would not have left the country over a democratic vote. Sister Wendy did not shove her politics at us. Sister Wendy looked for the good in everyone and every situation. Sister Wendy was a devout Catholic and Mantel was very scathing of Catholics and religion in general.
@@rl7012 Thank you for weighing in. I've just learnt something I didn't know. (Now I see that I was comparing their outsides rather than their insides). I'd have loved to hear them discuss some of the subjects they disagreed upon. I think it's particularly interesting when intelligent people who have opposing views get together to discuss subject matters that include those differences. It would have made for some intellectually stimulating, thought provoking and valuable conversation ... as both are able to hold their own... and, while strong in their individual beliefs, I think each would have been able to hear the other and give profound replies. I'm sad that this will never happen for us ... as we are here to learn, and that is a missed opportunity.
@@andreaandrea6716 I agree, it is just that I found sister Wendy very inclusive in her reasoning and Mantel is not. I deeply respect Mantel's writing and intellect, but her lefty politics and judgment of those with differing views to her, always left me astonished because they were so anti-intellectual. It seems to be always Remainers getting their self righteous soapboxes, and lefty remainers who even still casually put down Brexiteers as it is acceptable to constantly call over half the population thick for wanting not to be ruled by those muppets in Brussels. The fact that Mantel thought the Leave vote affected her self perception as a European so she had to leave the country, is just so ridiculous that I can't swallow it.
What a great loss. I will miss hearing the words “the new novel by Hilary Mantel”. Thank you for the wonderful gift you have given your readers and may you rest in peace. 💔
RIP. Such a talented and brilliant historian/writer. We really need more people like her. Thank you Hillary for your beautiful work and knowledge that you generously shared with the world 🌹🌹🌹🌹
I read the Wolf Hall trilogy. I was almost sad when it ended. I liked being in Thomas Cromwell’s world. It was a great escape. Mantel took a more sympathetic view of Cromwell than I’ve seen depicted in the past.
I imagine many more writers do and just don't become obsessed enough over blood ancestry to bother looking into it, let alone declaring it in their bio. It's pretentious to claim x, y or z blood if you were not born or raised into the national culture associated with it. Ancestry has nothing to do with who you are as a person any more than the color of your skin does. Who you are as a person has infinitely more to do with your experiences over the first decade of your life - by the end of that your basic character is set in stone already, if not earlier still.
She was the *third* writer to win the Booker Prize twice, not the fifth. Does anyone do simple fact-checking over there at CBS? Was “fifth” just pulled out of the air?
Also, the interviewer asked, incorrectly, how much of her work was "biographical".She had to correct him by responding to the question with the correct word, "autobiographical". It drives me crazy when media do not know proper English diction and it is so prevelent!
@@deborahgodley6980 MY PET PEEVE! And people get sloppier and sloppier and think it doesn't matter! (I am so happy to see your comment. You are not alone!).
Thank you!! No. No one checks anything anymore. We live in a world where accuracy seems not to matter. I believe it is important for those of us who DO CARE to speak up, to let the rest of the world know that ACCURACY MATTERS. So, thank you!!
She wasn't living in poverty when I knew her family. I went to school with one of her brothers, they lived in a nice middle class four bedroom semi-detached on a street called Heyworth Avenue, Romiley, Stockport, and her brother went to a fee-paying private high school. The family later moved to a very nice stone 18th century house, next to the church in Compstall, Stockport, although by then she'd have been at university.
As good as the Wolf Hall trilogy was, I think her greatest historical novel (set in the Reign of Terror ) was "A Place of Greater Safety." Her research was stunningly comprehensive, even for the myriad minor characters.
Yesterday I strayed upon a 2017 Guardian article "The princess myth: Hilary Mantel on Diana" - absolutely brilliant. The only part that stuck in my craw was "...Like many women in mid-life, she would have lived in a mist of discontent, struggling to define something owing, something that had eluded her." Hmmm, really?
Her historical novels are full of made-up events, not just imagining what characters thought and said during real events. She's crap for an age with no need for truth.
More intellectual navel gazing... I can reassure anyone who doesn’t know from personal experience: existential dread and anomie is definitely not confined to Middle Aged women... it’s pretty universal...
@@paulklee5790 I couldn't have said it better myself. I was just 6 years old when I first realised I was going to die some day, and existential dread has been my constant companion ever since. I wouldn't say it is the sole root of my depression, but it certainly is a major contributor to it. That being said it is the nature of many insular personalities to be incapable of seeing past their own navels to bear witness the horrors being experienced in the minds of others.
Sorry.... British writers were European long long before the EU and will still be European long after Brexit. The EU is just one of a long list of, (most likely relatively temporary), power structures, but ‘European’ is a cultural ideal. Must say I am truly surprised that Ms Mantel doesn’t appreciate this point, it’s pretty obvious...
Much of the ethos and mindset behind the Brexit machine is that we're not European, we're British and therefore different, unique and special. It is a divorce from our European identity and a harking back to the "Great British Land of Hope and Glory" "Bring back hanging, bring back the birch, bring back spinsters on bicycles" It's now common to hear "I'm not European, I'm British!" especially in England where this mentality is most prevalent. That's what she"s objecting to and I'm with her on that. I live in Italy and France and I almost never hear anyone even mentioning the EU, positively or not...it's just an economic agreement, not perfect but mostly works fine.
@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. I appreciate your comment but I don’t know where you got your information from... attitudes in the U.K. are exactly as they were years ago... some people have traveled, some people are culturally aware, others not so much... Brexit hasn’t moved the vast majorities of people’s needle one degree towards any kind of chauvinism... maybe I don’t move in intellectual circles but people are just to busy getting on with their lives... and on the whole are totally aware of our vastly diminished place in the wider world... if you think we are at all interested in hanging, flogging or bicycling spinsters you really should get out more....
What does identifying as "European" got to do supporting Britain's membership of the "European Union" which has nothing to do with culture or being civilised??
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life John 3:16 sorry for your loss
She was English born, Irish grandmother. Born in my hometown in Derbyshire. She and her family lived across the road from me for a few years in the 60s.
Good riddance!! Anyone who has so Little regard for the largest exercise in democracy the UK has ever seen isn't worth having in my country and the trilogy of books I have stupidly bought will now not be read and be going to my local charity shop where hopefully it will do more good.
@@119gilly But how was her European identity taken away from her? The UK was still in Europe last time I looked. Just not in an organisation run by a huge unelected bureaucracy. Sorry, but she had a classic case of Brexit Derangement Syndrome.
She reminds me of one of my very favourite people; Sister Wendy. I am so terribly sad that she is gone and that the world has been deprived of such a deeply creative and emotionally intelligent human being.
I agree. I feel sad that she didn't get to live a longer life in Ireland too.
@@skinfinesse Yes!!
Sister Wendy was less judgemental and she would not have left the country over a democratic vote. Sister Wendy did not shove her politics at us. Sister Wendy looked for the good in everyone and every situation. Sister Wendy was a devout Catholic and Mantel was very scathing of Catholics and religion in general.
@@rl7012 Thank you for weighing in. I've just learnt something I didn't know. (Now I see that I was comparing their outsides rather than their insides).
I'd have loved to hear them discuss some of the subjects they disagreed upon. I think it's particularly interesting when intelligent people who have opposing views get together to discuss subject matters that include those differences. It would have made for some intellectually stimulating, thought provoking and valuable conversation ... as both are able to hold their own... and, while strong in their individual beliefs, I think each would have been able to hear the other and give profound replies. I'm sad that this will never happen for us ... as we are here to learn, and that is a missed opportunity.
@@andreaandrea6716 I agree, it is just that I found sister Wendy very inclusive in her reasoning and Mantel is not. I deeply respect Mantel's writing and intellect, but her lefty politics and judgment of those with differing views to her, always left me astonished because they were so anti-intellectual. It seems to be always Remainers getting their self righteous soapboxes, and lefty remainers who even still casually put down Brexiteers as it is acceptable to constantly call over half the population thick for wanting not to be ruled by those muppets in Brussels. The fact that Mantel thought the Leave vote affected her self perception as a European so she had to leave the country, is just so ridiculous that I can't swallow it.
Rest In Peace
Hilary Mantel
What a great loss. I will miss hearing the words “the new novel by Hilary Mantel”. Thank you for the wonderful gift you have given your readers and may you rest in peace. 💔
Very sad to hear she has died.. Her Cromwell character was the best ever.
RIP. Such a talented and brilliant historian/writer. We really need more people like her. Thank you Hillary for your beautiful work and knowledge that you generously shared with the world 🌹🌹🌹🌹
" Happy childhoods don't create very good stories." Thank you dear Hillary. I will miss you😘
I read the Wolf Hall trilogy. I was almost sad when it ended. I liked being in Thomas Cromwell’s world. It was a great escape. Mantel took a more sympathetic view of Cromwell than I’ve seen depicted in the past.
That's cos she made up History.
Many of us strenuously object to having our European citizenship taken away. Ms Mantel was a remarkable author and woman
so sad she has gone from us ! RIP
Can’t wait for next season of Wolf Hall. Love it.
Rest in peace, Dame Hilary!
Astonishing how many great writers and artists have Irish blood in them. May she rest in peace.
I imagine many more writers do and just don't become obsessed enough over blood ancestry to bother looking into it, let alone declaring it in their bio.
It's pretentious to claim x, y or z blood if you were not born or raised into the national culture associated with it.
Ancestry has nothing to do with who you are as a person any more than the color of your skin does.
Who you are as a person has infinitely more to do with your experiences over the first decade of your life - by the end of that your basic character is set in stone already, if not earlier still.
She was the *third* writer to win the Booker Prize twice, not the fifth. Does anyone do simple fact-checking over there at CBS? Was “fifth” just pulled out of the air?
Also, the interviewer asked, incorrectly, how much of her work was "biographical".She had to correct him by responding to the question with the correct word, "autobiographical". It drives me crazy when media do not know proper English diction and it is so prevelent!
@@deborahgodley6980 MY PET PEEVE! And people get sloppier and sloppier and think it doesn't matter!
(I am so happy to see your comment. You are not alone!).
Thank you!! No. No one checks anything anymore. We live in a world where accuracy seems not to matter. I believe it is important for those of us who DO CARE to speak up, to let the rest of the world know that ACCURACY MATTERS. So, thank you!!
@@deborahgodley6980 It's spelt prevAlent
She wasn't living in poverty when I knew her family. I went to school with one of her brothers, they lived in a nice middle class four bedroom semi-detached on a street called Heyworth Avenue, Romiley, Stockport, and her brother went to a fee-paying private high school. The family later moved to a very nice stone 18th century house, next to the church in Compstall, Stockport, although by then she'd have been at university.
Super nice upload. Thank you for sharing!
As good as the Wolf Hall trilogy was, I think her greatest historical novel (set in the Reign of Terror ) was "A Place of Greater Safety." Her research was stunningly comprehensive, even for the myriad minor characters.
RIP on an amazing writer 🥶.
Such an amazing writer.
Well done
Yesterday I strayed upon a 2017 Guardian article "The princess myth: Hilary Mantel on Diana" - absolutely brilliant. The only part that stuck in my craw was "...Like many women in mid-life, she would have lived in a mist of discontent, struggling to define something owing, something that had eluded her." Hmmm, really?
Her historical novels are full of made-up events, not just imagining what characters thought and said during real events.
She's crap for an age with no need for truth.
More intellectual navel gazing... I can reassure anyone who doesn’t know from personal experience: existential dread and anomie is definitely not confined to Middle Aged women... it’s pretty universal...
@@paulklee5790 I couldn't have said it better myself.
I was just 6 years old when I first realised I was going to die some day, and existential dread has been my constant companion ever since.
I wouldn't say it is the sole root of my depression, but it certainly is a major contributor to it.
That being said it is the nature of many insular personalities to be incapable of seeing past their own navels to bear witness the horrors being experienced in the minds of others.
Sorry.... British writers were European long long before the EU and will still be European long after Brexit. The EU is just one of a long list of, (most likely relatively temporary), power structures, but ‘European’ is a cultural ideal. Must say I am truly surprised that Ms Mantel doesn’t appreciate this point, it’s pretty obvious...
Much of the ethos and mindset behind the Brexit machine is that we're not European, we're British and therefore different, unique and special.
It is a divorce from our European identity and a harking back to the "Great British Land of Hope and Glory"
"Bring back hanging, bring back the birch, bring back spinsters on bicycles"
It's now common to hear "I'm not European, I'm British!" especially in England where this mentality is most prevalent.
That's what she"s objecting to and I'm with her on that.
I live in Italy and France and I almost never hear anyone even mentioning the EU, positively or not...it's just an economic agreement, not perfect but mostly works fine.
@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. I appreciate your comment but I don’t know where you got your information from... attitudes in the U.K. are exactly as they were years ago... some people have traveled, some people are culturally aware, others not so much... Brexit hasn’t moved the vast majorities of people’s needle one degree towards any kind of chauvinism... maybe I don’t move in intellectual circles but people are just to busy getting on with their lives... and on the whole are totally aware of our vastly diminished place in the wider world... if you think we are at all interested in hanging, flogging or bicycling spinsters you really should get out more....
Brexit's legacy is a permanent malaise on the British economy...self inflicted shambles based on a misguided nationalism...
Damn, she was good RIP
RIP
WHAT ARE THE THE NUMBERS NEXT TO OUT COMMENT NAMES?????? THAT IS CREEPY.
What does identifying as "European" got to do supporting Britain's membership of the "European Union" which has nothing to do with culture or being civilised??
Silly cow... no-one was stopping her from being "European". The EU is not Europe.
Brexit has been a disaster for the UK... economic malaise will be permanent..
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life John 3:16 sorry for your loss
Well, she sure isnt coming back now !
she's looks english, i recommend they keep her.
Endometriosis apparently looks Irish.
She was English born, Irish grandmother. Born in my hometown in Derbyshire. She and her family lived across the road from me for a few years in the 60s.
Good riddance!! Anyone who has so Little regard for the largest exercise in democracy the UK has ever seen isn't worth having in my country and the trilogy of books I have stupidly bought will now not be read and be going to my local charity shop where hopefully it will do more good.
What an extreme reaction to how someone else wishes to live their life.
@@TheBlightygal yes it was extreme I fully accept that I just felt angry in the moment. And it's just been announced that she as died suddenly.
@@TheBlightygal
But her comment about Brexit somehow taking away her European identity was nonsense.
@@Wotsitorlabart Clearly, it was not nonsense to her, that is how she felt !
@@119gilly
But how was her European identity taken away from her?
The UK was still in Europe last time I looked.
Just not in an organisation run by a huge unelected bureaucracy.
Sorry, but she had a classic case of Brexit Derangement Syndrome.
Don't mind fiction about historical events. But she makes up the events. Her books are crap.
Such as?
I do not like Harry Potter and I do NOT like transphobics. Just another news day for me.
You are confusing her with another author. Hilary Mantel didn't write Harry Potter and has never been accused of transphobia.
Get over yourself, Amelia. She never said anything transphobic.
You deranged ignoramus.
That's J.K. Rowling you're thinking of.
She didn't write HP you silly rabbit.
Anyway, nothing wrong with asking if "people who menstruate" means women.
Get lost then
Brexit shambles by ignorant populace who vote Tory...