Yeah, I'm with you on this. Whether people like emulation or not, it is the inevitable result for these old games. Best to at least keep an open mind about it.
I completely agree. Purest’s can often be obsessive and judgmental about how a game is played. More times than not, the difference is so small that it’s almost impossible to truly feel a distinction.
Great video! Very refreshing take! And the editing was amazing as always. I think as you said, it all comes down to preference and your situation. Some have the space/money/time to get and fiddle with original hardware, whether it be arcades or whatever. Others prefer just to be able to play and most of the time you can’t tell a difference as an average person playing it.
I’m a fan, I like having a digital streamlined library I can just jump into on certain days. Also I like it if I don’t want to wear out my physical games! I also get tired of trying to keep original hardware working, ultimately these devices will fail and I’m only getting older and don’t want to have to go through the hassle of getting something recapped, messing with soldering…I guess for me the bottom line is, we are all getting older….time is short and for me seems to be going fast, game how you wanna game!!! Enjoy a game no matter how, and play as much as you can!
Personally emulation is good for preventing history to be lost to time as well good for some gamers who haven’t experienced those games when they came out.
CRT gang for liiiiife! As a gaming family, emulation is an important part of keeping things safe for the future, and having our kids participate safely, without to constantly tell them to "be careful"... Accessibility and preservation are real and important, but so is keeping those real beauties around! PHYSICAL MEDIA FOREVER ❤
Complaining overpowers fun in many cases . An example is Fast & Furious. So many complaints from people who don’t own one but so many , almost all the feedback I see from people is it’s “super fun” did we forget the fun ?
I agree 💯 %. I do have a few titles here and there that I’ve owned forever or they are games I finally picked up. But there’s nothing wrong with emulating games either. I have a healthy emulated library too, but it mostly doesn’t get played over the real thing. I just like my consoles.
In my opinion, I don't see a problem with either way you want to do it, or both for that matter. Emulation though, is the only way a lot of people, if not most, can experience games these days because the games/consoles are just simply unavailable or way too expensive to purchase. Really though, bottom line is, it simply just comes down to your preference.👍
I love emulation, and I think it has a very important role. But I do get the desire to collect physical media and original hardware. However, I'm good with emulating the older stuff... I'm a completionist and a perfectionist, so that can open an endless can of worms for me lol. Not sure if you've commented yet on the NewWaveToys & GRS teaser yet, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts on that. I know you were certain that the new product line was going to be a 3/4 scale cabinet... and then a full scale cabinet. But as it seems to turn out... it's going to be full scale, but an arcade stick of some sort instead.
@@thetechbuzz lol we will see. But I do remember you saying you were predicting a 3/4 scale at the very beginning (to compete with A1up) up until Shilo publicly started saying how much he doesn't like that scale in interviews... then the goal post moved to the full scale prediction. Sorry man, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Aside from some people really wanting it to happen... it just doesn't make much sense for them logistically since they aren't a home arcade business, they are a 1/6 scale collectibles business. A full sized arcade deck to play their small cabinets ventures a little bit outside of their scope, but makes sense to practically play their cabinets. I think the full sized hype created will polarize the community at the official announcement and may be worse than "Non-playable Pinball-Gate".
@@thetechbuzz Oh I already have my full sized cabinets that I'm really happy with, collecting NWT full scale cabinets (if it happens) isn't something personally I am interested in. I think that's why it's easier for me to make observations about their direction without bias. But, If it does happen, Either they will be of similar quality as A1Up with reasonable prices... or they will be Replicade quality at quite expensive prices ($1,200+). And I'm not sure it will be a sustainable move either way really for that market.
I don't like Arcade1Up just because the emulation isn't the best BUT and it's a huge one - The time and money it would cost to build your own cabinet, configure the emulators, ensuring the correct rom version as there are different versions of some games, certain glitches or gameplay tweaks across them or even content changes. Personally I would love to get my hands on real hardware, flash cart them and be done but I don't have the space so instead I have spent a couple years at this point building my emulation setup across 24tb (3x8tb) I'm still going as at the time I started some emulators were poor or non functioning but it's getting better. The input lag thing is laughable to me personally because I do not feel it playing on ANY screen type, some people do and it "ruins" it for them but I have no issues with input lag with emulation. At the end of the day you get what is going to make you happy. If you get an Arcade1Up and it isn't what you expect then return, refund and move on. If you want an arcade cab but don't want to learn how to maintain an original, then buy a prebuilt emulation MAME cab where they require minimal to no effort and usually better emulation as well (in some cases) Just enjoy your games and don't be a snob about it.
I bought a bunch of different systems thinking I would like hardware better. However, not going to lie: I enjoy the flexibility of emulation more. Nothing is as satisfying as throwing Batocera on an old desktop and having a blast.
I had too many 1ups at one point and got rid the ones without unique controls. It’s cool to have a variety of 3/4 scale but you gotta have a couple built with 3/4 mdf makes a huge difference not to feel the cab rocking back and forth like your MvC cab was doing.
The thing that you really can’t emulate to me is the og gameboy because I have one with a bivert/backlight mod and the image is so unique with the glow and ghosting effect I just play on the og hardware despite having multiple emulation options including my iPhone now. I’m sure there are other examples. Emulation is good for preservation and in some situations it can be on par or superior.
Nice video. Not a collector, but the wear and tear on hardware is a good point. Ive emulated so long it doesnt matter to me. Do i know its not perfect yeah, a Mister may be in my future. At the end of the day, play what and how makes you happy. And if you told 9yr old Techbuzz that he'd have an arcade and loaded gameroom in his basement, he would think youre crazy. 1ups arent perfect, but that room is nice.
Yes it is. Emulation is the way and the light. Especially with what these gaming companies are doing with giving there digital copies and then revoking them after they’re paid for.
@@thetechbuzz when you drop $60+ for a game digitally and then PlayStation removes that game and your ability to play it then there’s a problem. Which is what they’re starting to do.
Excellent video by the way. I wasn’t saying don’t buy all of that stuff. I actually commented before watching the video (which I just watched now actually). My partner JOEcade actually has a MASSIVE collection of consoles. Check the video I posted it’s all there. He’d be impressed with your video. I’m sending him and my boy Chase aka @retro gaming guy this video to watch now.
Seems to neglect collectors, I am a very specific collector as I collect Limited Run and Zelda games. I although LOVE games I missed, and therefore I will play them on emulation or ever drive carts.
Dammed if you do and dammed if don’t. People will always hate or have something negative to say, just do what makes you happy and smile. Have a nice day
Most of the 1up cabs are not the shape of the original. Even the STARWARS. The average gamer won't care. And may buy 1 and stick it in their house. But if you are the person building your own arcade, I would assume you are not the average gamer, and would like like things to be closer to the original. Though in your case I'm guessing most of your guests who play the games are not die hard arcade fans. So having family over and having fun makes sense. But I would say you are the exception. Most people don't have arcade parties all the time. But I could be wrong. And I would say it's not emulation that is the problem, it is bad emulation. Yes there are some super purists of course.
Correct most of my friends are not hardcore gamers, so they wouldn't know. It's just for creating an environment and having fun. Bad emulation is a problem, you are correct with that.
@@terrymobley6235 I think I still have my original one that came with it. I can always send you it. It was never used. I pulled it immediately when I got the cabinet if you would rather use the original?
In this era of cloud gaming and gaming subscriptions, consumers can't enjoy the game forever when companies keep killing their creations. I don't want to hear companies losing money excuses for piracy anymore. It doesn't go both ways. I believe many software companies abuse the term piracy. Software companies are not loyal to the consumer anymore. It's no secret that piracy has been a popular method of preserving games by sharing and distributing unauthorized copies of games, individuals have been able to ensure that the games remain accessible and playable for future generations.
In this era of cloud gaming and gaming subscriptions, consumers can't enjoy the game forever when companies keep killing their creations. I don't want to hear companies losing money excuses for piracy anymore. It doesn't go both ways. I believe many software companies abuse the term piracy. Software companies are not loyal to the consumer anymore. It's no secret that piracy has been a popular method of preserving games by sharing and distributing unauthorized copies of games, individuals have been able to ensure that the games remain accessible and playable for future generations.
In this era of cloud gaming and gaming subscriptions, consumers can't enjoy the game forever when companies keep killing their creations. I don't want to hear companies losing money excuses for piracy anymore. It doesn't go both ways. I believe many software companies abuse the term piracy. Software companies are not loyal to the consumer anymore. It's no secret that piracy has been a popular method of preserving games by sharing and distributing unauthorized copies of games, individuals have been able to ensure that the games remain accessible and playable for future generations.
Continuing my point, I will also buy systems and games to play them on the Orginal hardware. And OrIginal arcade games are not like home ports. Emulation is cool for something you have played or owned in the past.
That had some free-up arcade joints that i played . I see nothing wrong with emulating arcade machines nowadays it only becomes a problem when companies see you/us make huge profit on it if selling. @TechBuzz keep emulating if you or have the time too 👍🏽
Yeah, I'm with you on this. Whether people like emulation or not, it is the inevitable result for these old games. Best to at least keep an open mind about it.
That's it, man! 100% some people only see emulation as an option because they don't collect physical games.
I completely agree. Purest’s can often be obsessive and judgmental about how a game is played. More times than not, the difference is so small that it’s almost impossible to truly feel a distinction.
They like what they like, which is fine, but it’s not the be-all-end-all.
I love emulation and collecting too I got back and forth on which ones I prefer to be all original but I definitely support emulation..Great vid
Thanks man! I appreciate it! You gotta love choices!
Great video! Very refreshing take! And the editing was amazing as always. I think as you said, it all comes down to preference and your situation. Some have the space/money/time to get and fiddle with original hardware, whether it be arcades or whatever. Others prefer just to be able to play and most of the time you can’t tell a difference as an average person playing it.
Yes sir! It's great we are in a period with choices!
That console room 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉. I need more content from that room alone. That’s history🎉🎉🎉. Console room series 😊
Sounds good! I may just do that! Thanks!
I’m a fan, I like having a digital streamlined library I can just jump into on certain days. Also I like it if I don’t want to wear out my physical games! I also get tired of trying to keep original hardware working, ultimately these devices will fail and I’m only getting older and don’t want to have to go through the hassle of getting something recapped, messing with soldering…I guess for me the bottom line is, we are all getting older….time is short and for me seems to be going fast, game how you wanna game!!! Enjoy a game no matter how, and play as much as you can!
Exactly!
Personally emulation is good for preventing history to be lost to time as well good for some gamers who haven’t experienced those games when they came out.
Agreed!
Great topic. I’m always curious what people think about this. It seems that people always want to fight and pick “the best way”.
Yeah I'm not looking for a fight or anything, I'm really curious, BUT I also think people contradict themselves sometimes to push their own narrative.
CRT gang for liiiiife!
As a gaming family, emulation is an important part of keeping things safe for the future, and having our kids participate safely, without to constantly tell them to "be careful"... Accessibility and preservation are real and important, but so is keeping those real beauties around! PHYSICAL MEDIA FOREVER ❤
Yup because kids just want to play the game they don’t know if it’s a valuable game or not.
Complaining overpowers fun in many cases . An example is Fast & Furious. So many complaints from people who don’t own one but so many , almost all the feedback I see from people is it’s “super fun” did we forget the fun ?
Yep it’s all about the fun for me!!
Emulation is the way to go.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What works for you, may not work for others!
Grant is a living legend in the emulation scene. So I fully endorse his callout here!
@@robvanwanst4262 it’s not a callout, it’s his opinion and he is entitled to it.
I agree 💯 %. I do have a few titles here and there that I’ve owned forever or they are games I finally picked up. But there’s nothing wrong with emulating games either. I have a healthy emulated library too, but it mostly doesn’t get played over the real thing. I just like my consoles.
100% no replacing those!
I like original hardware but i also like what emulation can do to some old games.
Agreed!
Great video, thanks for the analysis. This is a good and healthy take on emulation.
Thanks! After all, games are suppose to be fun right?
In my opinion, I don't see a problem with either way you want to do it, or both for that matter. Emulation though, is the only way a lot of people, if not most, can experience games these days because the games/consoles are just simply unavailable or way too expensive to purchase. Really though, bottom line is, it simply just comes down to your preference.👍
Agreed! Good thought process!
Great video bro! A topic that definitely needs more deep dives
Thanks man! I'm proud of this one!
I love emulation, and I think it has a very important role. But I do get the desire to collect physical media and original hardware. However, I'm good with emulating the older stuff... I'm a completionist and a perfectionist, so that can open an endless can of worms for me lol. Not sure if you've commented yet on the NewWaveToys & GRS teaser yet, but I would be interested to hear your thoughts on that. I know you were certain that the new product line was going to be a 3/4 scale cabinet... and then a full scale cabinet. But as it seems to turn out... it's going to be full scale, but an arcade stick of some sort instead.
Well I stated full size. I never said 3/4. Others said 3/4. Full size has ALWAYS been my prediction and it will come!
@@thetechbuzz lol we will see. But I do remember you saying you were predicting a 3/4 scale at the very beginning (to compete with A1up) up until Shilo publicly started saying how much he doesn't like that scale in interviews... then the goal post moved to the full scale prediction. Sorry man, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Aside from some people really wanting it to happen... it just doesn't make much sense for them logistically since they aren't a home arcade business, they are a 1/6 scale collectibles business. A full sized arcade deck to play their small cabinets ventures a little bit outside of their scope, but makes sense to practically play their cabinets. I think the full sized hype created will polarize the community at the official announcement and may be worse than "Non-playable Pinball-Gate".
@@CoryB_1980 well I can tell you, don’t give up hope. Sometimes people know more than they say publicly or let on…..
@@thetechbuzz Oh I already have my full sized cabinets that I'm really happy with, collecting NWT full scale cabinets (if it happens) isn't something personally I am interested in. I think that's why it's easier for me to make observations about their direction without bias. But, If it does happen, Either they will be of similar quality as A1Up with reasonable prices... or they will be Replicade quality at quite expensive prices ($1,200+). And I'm not sure it will be a sustainable move either way really for that market.
@@CoryB_1980 yea but orgs valuable for the home arcade space if they create a full size line. Helps the space stay fresh, innovative, and competitive.
I don't like Arcade1Up just because the emulation isn't the best BUT and it's a huge one - The time and money it would cost to build your own cabinet, configure the emulators, ensuring the correct rom version as there are different versions of some games, certain glitches or gameplay tweaks across them or even content changes.
Personally I would love to get my hands on real hardware, flash cart them and be done but I don't have the space so instead I have spent a couple years at this point building my emulation setup across 24tb (3x8tb) I'm still going as at the time I started some emulators were poor or non functioning but it's getting better.
The input lag thing is laughable to me personally because I do not feel it playing on ANY screen type, some people do and it "ruins" it for them but I have no issues with input lag with emulation.
At the end of the day you get what is going to make you happy. If you get an Arcade1Up and it isn't what you expect then return, refund and move on. If you want an arcade cab but don't want to learn how to maintain an original, then buy a prebuilt emulation MAME cab where they require minimal to no effort and usually better emulation as well (in some cases)
Just enjoy your games and don't be a snob about it.
Very well said!
I bought a bunch of different systems thinking I would like hardware better. However, not going to lie: I enjoy the flexibility of emulation more. Nothing is as satisfying as throwing Batocera on an old desktop and having a blast.
Always great to have options!
I had too many 1ups at one point and got rid the ones without unique controls. It’s cool to have a variety of 3/4 scale but you gotta have a couple built with 3/4 mdf makes a huge difference not to feel the cab rocking back and forth like your MvC cab was doing.
We have fun, really the room feels like an arcade.
@@thetechbuzz the room looks awesome
The thing that you really can’t emulate to me is the og gameboy because I have one with a bivert/backlight mod and the image is so unique with the glow and ghosting effect I just play on the og hardware despite having multiple emulation options including my iPhone now. I’m sure there are other examples. Emulation is good for preservation and in some situations it can be on par or superior.
I have both the OG gameboy and the re-capped LCD version. I like both.
@@thetechbuzzbonk looks great on that crt.
@@Bo_Knows_Tecmo Yeah got a deal on that $20 for that CRT flat screen!
Nice video. Not a collector, but the wear and tear on hardware is a good point. Ive emulated so long it doesnt matter to me. Do i know its not perfect yeah, a Mister may be in my future. At the end of the day, play what and how makes you happy. And if you told 9yr old Techbuzz that he'd have an arcade and loaded gameroom in his basement, he would think youre crazy. 1ups arent perfect, but that room is nice.
You are 100% correct sir!
Emulation is preservation of history and your collection …. The games you play are nostalgia how you enjoy it is up to the end user …. Great topic ….
Thanks!
Love emulating but i still keep hard copies of my absolute favorites.
Agreed!
This was a great vid!
Thank you!
Yes it is. Emulation is the way and the light. Especially with what these gaming companies are doing with giving there digital copies and then revoking them after they’re paid for.
Well there is no right or wrong. That’s your opinion on how you want to play, which is fine.
@@thetechbuzz when you drop $60+ for a game digitally and then PlayStation removes that game and your ability to play it then there’s a problem. Which is what they’re starting to do.
@@ThePerfectStormGaming I agree! But there are people that say they don’t care, which baffles me.
Excellent video by the way. I wasn’t saying don’t buy all of that stuff. I actually commented before watching the video (which I just watched now actually). My partner JOEcade actually has a MASSIVE collection of consoles. Check the video I posted it’s all there. He’d be impressed with your video. I’m sending him and my boy Chase aka @retro gaming guy this video to watch now.
Great stuff I subbed to your channel.
Seems to neglect collectors, I am a very specific collector as I collect Limited Run and Zelda games.
I although LOVE games I missed, and therefore I will play them on emulation or ever drive carts.
That’s it, play and collect the way you want to!
Dammed if you do and dammed if don’t. People will always hate or have something negative to say, just do what makes you happy and smile. Have a nice day
Good advice!
Most of the 1up cabs are not the shape of the original. Even the STARWARS. The average gamer won't care. And may buy 1 and stick it in their house. But if you are the person building your own arcade, I would assume you are not the average gamer, and would like like things to be closer to the original. Though in your case I'm guessing most of your guests who play the games are not die hard arcade fans. So having family over and having fun makes sense. But I would say you are the exception. Most people don't have arcade parties all the time. But I could be wrong. And I would say it's not emulation that is the problem, it is bad emulation. Yes there are some super purists of course.
Correct most of my friends are not hardcore gamers, so they wouldn't know. It's just for creating an environment and having fun. Bad emulation is a problem, you are correct with that.
Looks great to me.
Exactly!
Good video 👍👍👍👍
Thanks Glen! Got your plug in (even though they are great products) because it's in the contract ;) LOL
Good afternoon, how is Glen’s spinner working on your Tron?
Works great!
@@thetechbuzz he has on his website that it does not work well as the sensitivity cannot be adjusted.
@@terrymobley6235 interesting. Maybe I’ll do a youtube short on it, mine works fine.
@@thetechbuzz yes, please! Arcade 1up is out of parts and I need a spinner.
@@terrymobley6235 I think I still have my original one that came with it. I can always send you it. It was never used. I pulled it immediately when I got the cabinet if you would rather use the original?
Well said.
Thanks!
I'm just sick of the firm ware updates etc
It should work right out of the box
yeah...
It's not piracy when you already own the game. Which, obviously, you do own a lot, lol.
True, but you know there is always that one person calling someone out for piracy right? LOL But yes you are correct!
In this era of cloud gaming and gaming subscriptions, consumers can't enjoy the game forever when companies keep killing their creations. I don't want to hear companies losing money excuses for piracy anymore. It doesn't go both ways. I believe many software companies abuse the term piracy. Software companies are not loyal to the consumer anymore. It's no secret that piracy has been a popular method of preserving games by sharing and distributing unauthorized copies of games, individuals have been able to ensure that the games remain accessible and playable for future generations.
In this era of cloud gaming and gaming subscriptions, consumers can't enjoy the game forever when companies keep killing their creations. I don't want to hear companies losing money excuses for piracy anymore. It doesn't go both ways. I believe many software companies abuse the term piracy. Software companies are not loyal to the consumer anymore. It's no secret that piracy has been a popular method of preserving games by sharing and distributing unauthorized copies of games, individuals have been able to ensure that the games remain accessible and playable for future generations.
@@thetechbuzz I don't know if you delete my message or Youtue. Good thing I copy my message. There should be a message under my reply.
In this era of cloud gaming and gaming subscriptions, consumers can't enjoy the game forever when companies keep killing their creations. I don't want to hear companies losing money excuses for piracy anymore. It doesn't go both ways. I believe many software companies abuse the term piracy. Software companies are not loyal to the consumer anymore. It's no secret that piracy has been a popular method of preserving games by sharing and distributing unauthorized copies of games, individuals have been able to ensure that the games remain accessible and playable for future generations.
Continuing my point, I will also buy systems and games to play them on the Orginal hardware. And OrIginal arcade games are not like home ports.
Emulation is cool for something you have played or owned in the past.
Or super expensive games
Yes and super expensive games!
Haters bro, haters.
Everyone has an opinion right?
That had some free-up arcade joints that i played . I see nothing wrong with emulating arcade machines nowadays it only becomes a problem when companies see you/us make huge profit on it if selling. @TechBuzz keep emulating if you or have the time too 👍🏽
I do both! Love the collecting factor!