"I'm English and therefore the funniest things in the world to me are men dressing as ladies... and the concept of social mobility." -The Crown Prince of Deadpan
The funny thing is Yahtzee's theory about sephiroth is 100% correct, he was originally barely in it until hameguchi(the combat director I believe) was like "hey can we have them fight sephiroth at the end?" And basically pestered nomura until he did it.
I don't think I've ever heard Yahtzee as legitimately mystified as he sounds at 3:35 I think he honestly broke character for a moment. Like, "Yeah, even after writing all this down that shit still doesn't make sense."
@@fullmontisNoticed the same. Am mildly surprised the same didn't happen when he recited Destiny's original plot yet a perfectly reasonable point to crack up.
They could have avoided a fair amount of the "it's not the same" backlash by going the evangelion route and calling it a "rebuild". That would also set us up for it never ever being finished.
trueNgt48 well SE is gonna realized how fucked they are after the backlash over the deceiving title and the fact it no longer follows the original and when the sales start going down for each part
@@mrcrazy7865 I can pretty much guarantee you that the sales won't drop much. Particularly since aside from the hardcore "it's not the same" fanboys, most of the people I've heard talk about the game enjoyed it a fair bit. Hell, even Yatzee didn't bash the game as much as he does most JRPGs. I have no personal interest in the game both because it's not complete, and because I prefer many Final Fantasy games over VII, but a great many people do like and care about the game enough that I seriously doubt the poor title choice is going to upset sales any. Particularly because the vast majority of those hardcore fans who do feel the need to complain just because it's not the exact same game, will still pick up the future entries regardless......
Gamer3427 well if you look at the sales for the remake already in the UK, it’s already dropped to the bottom 10 after 3 weeks and is losing to games that came out years and even months ago (ex: Jedi fallen order and COD modern warfare). And the fact that it isn’t even a complete version of the original is gonna push off people to wait until it’s all done
Funny enough you look at the interviews with kitase/nojima/nomura and suddenly the idea of the plot being passed every 10 minutes between them doesn't sound that far off.
Majora Except Yahtzee’s gone on record multiple time’s to say he hates this type of RUclips comment. It adds nothing. It’s just filling the air and begging for likes.
@@theodorepinnock1517 I've heard of maybe three, and it's only through self-plugging on this show. Just getting published doesn't mean success, and the fact is more people know about him from this show than those books. It's obvious where his revenue stream lies, what with entering into two other video projects from the same magazine.
@@singularityghost6290 What other revenue stream can you get with life as a writer in this century. He's making money off his writing career, and you're commenting on a video that is the only reason Escapist has over a million subscribers. He's done alright by modern media standards for sure
TBH a large chunk of writers never reach a level of success that they can survive of book sales alone they usually have some other job for consistent income because professional writing takes either an insane amount of luck or knowing exactly the right people to really take off, and it's rarely indicative of talent, for every worthy success story eg. Harry potter there's an abomination that gets inextricably popular eg. Fifty Shades, good artists are rarely recognized in their own time as well Lovecraft never lived to see his works truly take off for example. TL:DR, not having a writing career "take off", and having to keep one's "Day Job" so to speak is nothing to be ashamed off and happens to the best of us.
Games having actual stuff in them is a thing of the past Yahtzee. Get with the times. The kids these days are into expansion packs and Pavlovian conditioning.
@@switchplayer1016 I cringe when I see people crying when they saw the trailers. I've played the original twice through but for fuck's sake its not the gospel of games
Xtraflux No, Pavlovian Conditioning is a method of training something to have a certain reaction to a specific stimulus. The way Pavlov used it was that he had a bell and when he rung it, the dogs he had trained would salivate. It’s an incredibly interesting thing.
Running Commentary 21 I am yes. Probably from where we first see Zack to “I miss the steal sky” with the rain and the song hollow playing. It’s just perfect and makes me want the next episode.
If they had just made the changes to the story without feeling the need for an in-universe explanation of why the things that happened differently in this version happened differently it would have been great. The whispers made an 8/10 into a 5/10. They even could have kept the showdown with Sephiroth via one of the clones. But I guess it's just not a real fantasy story if it doesn't have contrived predetermination as a central theme.
Amnesiac falls in love, bad guy wants to blow up the world to absorb its life energy, bad guy kills amnesiac's love interest, amnesiac kills bad guy, world blows up anyway, everybody dies, boom, Final Fantasy VII
"Simple" might be a bit too much to expect, but FFVII is at least of the generation where it didn't take three encyclopedias and a college course to figure out what's going on. *SPOILERS BELOW* * Long ago the planet was populated by Ancients. * A meteor fell at the north pole containing a horrible planet-eating entity called Jenova. The Ancients stopped it or sealed it up or something. Most of them died. * An evil mega-corp named Shinra is all evil and mega-corpy. It finds, exploits Jenova to create enhanced soldiers and monsters, and siphons the planet's life-energy to power its cities and create magic crystals called Materia. * One of its super soldiers is named Sephiroth. He's the Big Bad. He's so bishonen that it's physically painful. * Cloud is a small town kid with big dreams. He joins Shinra, is there when Sephiroth discovers that he was altered with Jenova cells, gets caught up in Sephiroth's freak-out, kills Sephiroth, is put in a tank and experimented on. * Cloud escapes (with help), has a whole lot of amnesia and false memories, goes to Midgar (a big multi-layer city that's Shinra's HQ and is made of congealed class warfare and oppression). *This is where the game starts* * Cloud meets his childhood love interest Tifa and her ecoterrorist gang, blows stuff up. Meets Aerith, the last Ancient. Stereotypical anime love triangle ensues. * Sephiroth is still alive (gasp!), murders half of Shinra, everyone leaves and goes on a big trek through the countryside with oodles of side quests. * Sephiroth wants to use evil magic (Meteor) to wound the Planet and absorb all its life energy to become a god. * Turns out Cloud is battier than a belfry and gives Meteor to Sephiroth. * Aerith has the key to stop him. Aerith departs the world abruptly, crushing shippers' dreams forever. * The world goes to hell. Cloud betrays everyone, falls comatose, a bunch of living Weapons get out. * Tifa figures out that Cloud's got false memories oozing from his brain, helps him mop them up. * Everyone's back together and they go take on Sephiroth with the Power of Resolved Character Arcs. * The world ends, then doesn't end, then ends, then doesn't end again. The end.
Angsty blonde ex-Amazon employee with big knife loses girlfriend to beautiful alien man and the planet gets saved at some point from a comet. Edit: Also you can ride big bird from sesame street.
This one stood out to me as particularly good among recent episodes. I never looked at the video progress bar even once. Nicely done! And that closing gag was superb.
The part when Tifa tells Cloud to go talk to Barret's daughter, then Barrett yells and shoves Cloud for standing by his daughter for two seconds. Then, Tifa just stands there like she didn't just tell Cloud to talk to her, made me realize I'm probably not going to like this game. This game is so awkward, but I do like seeing Midgar with the shiny graphics. A lot.
The reason Barret shoved Cloud away from Marlene gets explained 2 seconds after the above sequence. And considering Cloud's personality, the reason Barret gives make a hell of a lot of sense.
@@katsasgeorge there is a part later in the game about how cloud gave Marlene murder eyes and cloud is softening up, being more real of a person. Also, don’t talk to strangers
"Maybe they didn't wanted to call it FF 7-1 because it would sound like football results" 4 years later, and I still feel your pain, my brazilian brothers. And I am an argentinian.
I like calling this treatment "Getting Nomura'd" Which is basically a description of the entire Kingdom Hearts timeline as well. At least they called it a remake and not a remaster. Because that's exactly what they did, remade everything and called it the same thing.
I don't really think he is alone in this, Square enix absolutely love this kind of convoluted narration that is all over the place. But to be fair Nomura is doing something right, and even if his plots are absolute nonsense and the dialogs are laughtable at best I'm always weirdly invested in those crazy stories.
I really don't like Nomura tbh. Dude's not a good director. Only need to look at how long FF15 spent in development hell pre-production because of him to see that. Now Naoki Yoshida, there's a guy who I want to see get the reigns to FF16.
So, as a layman, tell me if I've got this straight: They spent 5 or more years working on a remake, based on a sub-franchise they already milked as much as possible before this (from fans who were prior to this outsiders to the pre-existing examples of the JRPG genre), and end up releasing only ONE-TWELFTH of the original game at full-price?
It's even more insulting than that. They didn't just sell you a small fraction of the original game at full retail price, they padded out that small fraction with unnecessary fluff to trick people into thinking the game has more content than the original.
@@greenboots_4661 and @Shezar20 How can you call a remake that advertises itself as THE remake to a beloved game yet features less than a third of the story with filler that no one asked for padding it out a full game?
Obligatory "Phoenix Downs only work if you're *knocked out* not *dead* dumbo" Because when a dragon bites your head off everyone knows you're only fainting from the embarrassment of it all. Dont you dare bring up the "Life" spell.
Phoenix downs don't revive the dead. No one ever dies in battle, they are simply "KO"ed, which is where the phoenix down comes in. It revives the person from a downed state, not death. This is how it is in every FF. I don't care how spectacular the effects of the spells and shit are, in the narrative the characters win every battle unscathed and no one ever dies unless scripted too anyway so it really is just a separation of story and plot. So in the end: don't even mention it, it's not worth it.
@@Rebellions Yes, of course, no one dies from damage sustained in FF7 -- because everyone knows that the worst a planet-crushing meteor strike can do when it hits you is knock you out. So, a sword through the heart should be no big deal, right? She'll be *fine.*
@@smward87 Sorry, I know some people are still torn up about that part of the game. But c'mon, it's the feathers of a _phoenix,_ not a jar of smelling salts -- coming back from the dead is kinda their whole *deal.* And you can't expect me to believe that getting hit by a _meteor that crushes planets on its way to hitting me_ is going to be less lethal than getting stabbed, FF7 -- a Tonberry stabbed everyone in my party earlier, and they practically walked that off. A strong enough dissonance between story and gameplay can completely ruin the experience, frankly, and no matter which way you try to rationalize this one, it _still_ makes no bloody sense.
It was easily the worst part for me, but it always has been. Its a time wasting section on the way to far more serious plot points and they EXPANDED on that this go around. "DON CORNEO IS GOING TO CHOOSE A BRIDE AT ANY TIME! ...now run around town and do a whole bunch of stuff instead of just busting down the front door." Its so freaking stupid, especially when the end result was going to be the same either way, you were GOING to get that information from Corneo and escape and he was always going to be ostracized from Shinra for it. Its just dumb as hell that you have to run around doing all sorts of inane tasks to get from Point A to point B.
Palladiamors Of course it makes no sense. But if you start looking at Final fantasy that way, you can rip the entire story apart, since basiclly nothing makes sense. -Through out the entire game the entire Party is getting shot and never hit by a bullet. - Barret could have easily shot reno and rude through that scene and saved the Day - Cloud can rip through buildings and can jump several Meters with two children through the air and is yet hindered by simple things standing in his way. - Sneaking into the shinra building on top of that truck the way they did, should have exposed them right away. - And I don't even know where to Start with the wispers and Sephiroth. If my enjoyment of the game would hinge on what makes sense, I would have hated the entire story.
“I guess spectacle is all that matters in JRPGs these days.” Given the number of times my limit breaks either missed or were interrupted by me getting nailed by a power attack because Tifa and Cloud have to turn the anime up to 11 and no one thought it might be a good idea to prevent enemy attacks and movement while they dramatically pose so that they'll have almost certainly have moved before you actually attack, I think he has a point.
Not really, it's about timing up. You are not meant to perform certain attacks when the enemy is on the move or about to strike, you are meant to read the body language and assess what to do. You can pause for a reason, I am surprised that people are struggling with certain mechanics, I played the original and I love turn based, but this hybrid is good and really not that hard at all to adapt to. It's rather enjoyable even.
@@Carnage7209 It's the downside of a hybrid system that allows you to perform combos, which on the other hand, you can't do that in turn based. I can command Cloud to do his limit break and then quickly change to Tifa to execute an ability and vice versa. Combos like these give you a lot more dynamic as a comparison. Just because it's one of the downsides of this battle system it doesn't make it a flaw per se. The same way you can't do any sort of timing with turn based and have to wait out for certain actions to be performed in full. Which let's be honest about that, even back in 1998 the waiting time was excruciating (summons being the best example), we just didn't know better. Again, like I said in my first post, I do in fact wait for enemies to be busy with other characters, pausing for wtv reason or staggered. Come on, it's really not that hard. Lure the enemy to the character you do not want to use and quickly switch to the one using limit break to perform it when he has his back against you.
@@trailoffiends I think the problem is that, at certain hps the boss battle goes into a scripted state where the boss does a little dance to show-off the next phase of the fight, and they become invincible when doing so. So its really annoying when I use a limit move (ahem Ascension) when a boss is staggered and like 70% of the move misses because the first 30% knocks the boss into the next phase.
@@D-H-C Makes sense, I agree with that. Granted I am not implying that it's a perfect system, it should be corrected in a few cases, but I sense some exaggeration in criticism over this. This is undoubtedly better than turn based. For those who are struggling a bit on bosses, I would just recommend the use of Refocus. Those 3 ATB bars become much more important than limit breaks when taking too much damage.
It's more like a 4th of the original disc 1. Midgar was long, but it was simply the beginning of just the first disc. You end that first one on your way out of the City of the Ancients!
I am also really torn about it. For one, I really like seeing all these familiar places and characters in a graphical... Well prowess really, like I'm surprised my Playstation didn't melt. On the other hand this game has Advent Children directing, Kingdom Hearts writing and FF 15's Jank all over the place. And to be honest, I can't stand that Nomura guy, he really is my no 1 Shonen antagonist. Yeah, he did the character conceptualizations for the original FF 7 but he had no say in the writing, what so ever. When he suddenly began to gain power, fuck knows how, he was put in charge of Kingdom Hearts, which is fine, I hate Disney even more than him now, but still it's fine. But suddenly he was in charge of FF7, writing and directing the Advent Children (where he famously proved that meat delivery workers aren't supposed to prepare the food as well because he has absolutely no idea what made them work in the first place) and now the FF 7 Remake, where everything that gets negatively reviewed by fans is the jank that Tetsuya wrote in. Like legit, I have read some interviews where the upper echelon of Square had to pull him back a bit because he went fucking rampant on that game, making it in his vision, rather than the game that elevated Square to superhero status... As you can see, I am still pissed about it.
They had to change the entire story going forward to make it not happen, not because it would please the fans, but because it would end up looking like a snuff film by the time they got to it.
How about if instead of him appearing and stabbing her just as she's trying to heal the planet... she instead runs up a bunch of stairs while everything's exploding, right, like in Dirge of Cerberus (Squenix reference!)... and then he shoots at her with a gun, because we all know Sephiroth uses a gun right, (Squenix style!), but she deflects every bullet a microsecond before it would go through her brain (Advent Children, woo!), but then he corners her and nearly kills her, but she dramatically kills herself in defiance! (DoC again)
@@ilikecookies72_45 Except they are already backpedaling pretty hard core on that front after the backlash. And if its a new story far, FAR more people will be angry since they wanted Final Fantasy VII, not "Nomura's New Wet Dream."
The way they inserted Sephiroth in from the early chapters and consistently teased him was irritating, especially watching that feather repeatedly fall in front of a stupefied Cloud. By the time I finally got to fight him I didn't give a damn anymore. He was also pretty easy even just compared to the boss before him.
@@Ashurman666 I am one of said new players. I know he's the important main bad guy of the series, but I don't know anything about who he is as a person, his motivations or even why he can fly and do crazy, magical shit no one had done up until that point. The mystery surrounding him is also vague enough that I don't find it compelling. He was more of a character in kingdom hearts and I've heard fans lament how he was completely butchered there.
@@WolframiteWraith Bingo. See in the original game he didn't make his grand appearance until...i think around the end of disc 1 or two, i forget and before that he actually gets built up. Hell there's an entire part of Cloud going into his own backstory when he was in Soldier to build up just how much of a legend Sephiroth was when he was a Soldier(Basically the best Solider that ever was) as well as show his slow fall from grace and into madness. Also all the bullshit he spouts about "saving the planet"? Fuck no, in the original he wanted to destroy it all! Especially after he found out who, or should i say, WHAT he really is
@@Ashurman666 Well at the very least the remake has got me to start searching for the original game since I was so disappointed. Still deciding between the PC with the mods to clean up the backgrounds or just the console remaster version since that's how I prefer to play and own most of my games.
@@WolframiteWraith Pc with mods since mods can make the game look much, MUCH better, especially with the new models and animations like ninostyle's models. that's my preferred way to play the game. Well that and the New Threat mod but i don't recommend that to a newcommer
I'd go with "false advertising", but not for the lenght, it was known that it was going to be episodic and not the full game. it's false advertising for another reason...
@@usul573 uh... it IS episodic... the first part they released is just the midgard part. not even half of the story, they covered only the "prologue" of the story. it will take like four or five more releases if they plan to make it as long as the original.
@@pelgervampireduck What's the difference between calling it a series or episodic? Or a trilogy? It just seems like it's hard to even define what it is and only time will tell.
The game is only going to get more confusing for newcomers (and possibly some forgetful older fans) as Final Fantasy VII Remake seems to be incorporating more stuff from the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" series! This (unfortunately) means that you won't know about all the characters unless you're ALSO familiar with Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII, Crisis Core, & Dirge of Cerberus. The Before Crisis game was a mobile game that never left Japan so the best you can hope for is a Let's Play with an English translation. In the case of Dirge of Cerberus, you need to know both the story of the single-player mode AND the MMO mode that never left Japan! In the latter case, you'll have to hope you can find some translated Let's Plays if you want to see it! I don't expect Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core to be re-released anytime soon either since Square Enix would either have to get permission from Gackt (a Japanese pop star) to use his likeness again or change the design of the character who was based on him!
The combat got more fun when I switched to using Tifa as my main. Her more up close and personal fighting style was more engaging for me. Unfortunately I was like 3/4 through the game before I did this.
Maybe it's just the pandemic getting to me but your reviews this year have been some of the best, Yahtzee. So funny, I almost can't watch them at work anymore from how often I hold back a laugh and choke from it. X'D
I liked the game, still have to agree with the video. - Some areas felt padded - The AI of your team mates is... urgh - Air combat is awful - You have a dodge roll, but your iFrames are so short... I played Dark Souls and had to remind myself "no do not use the dodgeroll!" - Enemies will for the most part target the character you are controling - If you do limits, you can die while the animation is played - You can stagger enemies to do more damage, but sometimes those staggers run right into a mid battle cutscene (same with some Limitbreaks) I really hope Square Enix sees those negative points as well and will improve it in part 2. # The ending of the game is a big controversy, there is a vocal minority, hating the game with a passion because of that ending. +Really like the music +Characters felt more fleshed out and i actually did like them. +Wall Market! +Even with so many points that felt annyoing with the gameplay, the battle system was still fun and the boss fights especially were awsome. +I am curious where the story will go this time.
I tend to agree with you. I still had fun doing all the little side quests, but they definitely felt like padding. Combat is fun, until you realize that everyone is about to die, and Aerith is in the corner picking her nose instead of healing even though she has all of the healing materia. Or enemies can fly. or a cut scene interrupted your limit break. I liked the change up of the story. The characters got more characterization and I ended up liking ones that I kinda disliked in the original. (Even though Yahtzee was dead on about the bit where you go help Jessie.) And Wall Market. Was. AMAZING! I had to pause the game when Tifa sees Cloud all dolled up for the first time I was laughing so hard. And the toning down of the blatant homophobia from the original was nice. I do really wish they had put "Part 1" in there somewhere. I really don't like paying full price for *part* of a game, not matter how long it is. Especially when I could play what is (Or, what I expected would be) the same game, bought as a single game, right now because I own it on two different platforms.
Yeah I agree. Was it a perfect game? By no means but I think you can very much feel the love of ff7 the production had it shines through greatly in some very refreshing ways when it does work and it feels like the the dev team are taking all the criticisms to heart so I'm excited to see the progress in part 2
Yeah, I remember when Mass Effect 3 was new, shitheels were calling its detractors a "VoCaL mInOrItY" too. Anytime you want to downplay sometime, just call it a VoCaL mInOrItY and hope nobody points out you have no fucking evidence whatsoever it's a VoCaL mInOrItY and not a widespread criticism. It IS, in fact, a widespread criticism among people with an IQ above room temperature. Everyone clamored for DECADES to get a remake of FF7, and the ending is a metaphor for these fans in which you KILL THEM so the developers can do whatever goofy Kingdom Hearts bullshit they want in coming episodes. We asked for a remake of FF7, not FF7: cocaine edition. We knew we weren't getting 1:1, and we were fine with 1:1.2. We aren't fine with 1:banana, and that's what we're getting going forward. The ending could NOT have been more clear on this, but you still get retards who defend it saying "I'm sure, based on nothing at all, that they won't change the plot too much." Aerith's death is the lynchpin of the original plot, it doesn't work AT ALL with her alive. But her death is literally one of those "things that will happen only if we lose here today" from the ending. She's 100% going to live. The storyline going forward will be COMPLETELY different, and Square's B team doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. People are right to be pissed. If you aren't pissed, you don't understand what's going on. They've ALREADY given us alternate timelines and time travel bullshit (Aerith from this is the Aerith from the original, meaning she already went through the plot and knows everything) and this one was 90% faithful! What in God's name will the rest be like?!
This is, without a doubt, THE best ZP ever. The jokes, visuals, gags, takeaway, writing, Yahtzee being mystified by a game 2 times in a review, the slap ending, and the end cards 😂!
Nah, Yahtzee is exaggerating. The Midgar section is actually one of the most plot heavy areas in the original game. Like, the game can be completed in about 35-40 hours on a blind run, 3-5 of which you spend in Midgar, (100%-ing the game tends to clock in on about 85-90 hours and speedrunners can blast through the game in less than 9 hours,) but the writing gets a bit sparse after the Midgar section, to the extent that it contains about 1/4th or even 1/3rd of the full game's dialogue and exposition. Trudging through the overworld and dungeons actually consumes most of the time you spend in the game.
I think the false advertising complaints were more about the fact that it’s literally not a remake, Gwyneth Paltrow is going back in time and changing everything, and not that it’s only the first part of the story.
I think saying the game is padded is a bit of a copout. Every side mission is rewarded with a bit of story and the non story side missions are rewarded with revenge or cute moments. Its easy to say "I remember the days when games came in one whole chunk with no dlcs and a complete story" but thats just not the world we live in now, even a ff7 remake can be a risk. I think they did a great job of introducing people to the world and giving gameplay deep enough to take you through the plat . Now we get the pleasure of waiting for a new episode of a game so many people loved.
It's not called Remake part 1 since word remake is connected to plot. This game is a remake and sequel at the same time. Same reason why Sephiroth is appearing all the time. Also the point is for you to play all the characters. It's designed for you to change between them.
People often forget the third disc of the og game is basically the last mission, story wise. Like...4 hours top? The reason why is a separate disc is because you could technically get out of the crater and explore the world for side stuff. But story? Not so much.
The intro had me thinking, Your right yatzee, it has been an awfully long time I've been dropping in to watch you do this, I don't really play games anymore and I haven't owned a console since before Azeroth got flooded. So why do I keep coming back to watch you moan about games i'll never buy anyway? "Oh you tease" oh yeah brilliant, considered and insightful writing!
Zero Punctuation indie rock track name of the week: Shame If She Got Impaled Runner-up: My Pretty Anime Sword Boy Sure Daydreams About Gwyneth Paltrow A Lot
I had no idea this series was still going. Lol. I used to watch these on the other site, but I guess it's been a few years. I had forgotten how I felt to have the things I love broken into pieces and danced around on. Lol. Also, I hella missed this voice and the animation.
I really liked this game (even if I have mixed feeling about the ending) and specially the combat and soundtrack but I love Yahtzee take on it because almost every jokes he made are on point ! Would love to see a Civil War on FF7 Remake
To be fair, Square Enix has been very clearly stating that FF7remake would be episodic. Not sure if they stated, just HOW episodic, though. It very well could be 8-9 parts.
@@trailoffiends Well, I never played the original, so I don't know how much story part 1 covered, but from what I've heard from other sources too, it's not much. Unless they just start cramming it in in the final parts, I think 5 episodes is the minimum we can expect.
@@codmanout9861 Midgar is like the first 4 or 6 hours of the original indeed. However, I want to believe that since doing everything, including a world map, would be too much for a first iteration. Nevermind that Sephiroth's inclusion and the fade stuff was probably a way to make this segment of the story feel eventful enough to warrant a purchase. Now that foundations are set, it should be easier to materialize the rest of the world by not attempting to grind the story that much. Granted, I am sure some future characters will be more fleshed out as well as a few locations, but 3 games more is really all that it's needed.
Remember when Sephiroth was hardly hinted at and you thought the real baddie was going to be President Shinra and then it's a huge upset when you find him killed by Sephiroth? Remember how much great build-up that gave the villain? Well Remake doesn't remember, hence why Sephiroth gives a generic villain monologue 5 minutes after the Bombing Run like a Horror Movie showing it's monster in the first 20 minutes.
When you put it like that you are right. But if you know the fact that this is an sequel to the whole ff7 compilation then this makes total sense. But for new players I do admit that they show a lot of Sephiroth without actually explaining him a lot. But this is the first part and they will probably explain him right at the beginning of the next part.
to be fair, Sephiroth is also one of the most iconic video game villains of all time now, so if they were trying to be coy about it I'd have to ask who they think they're fooling.
@@android19willpwn It also means that 40 hours of this game would be spent on building up a villain that is then killed offscreen by a character that was never mentioned up till that point. Makes sense in a game that you can complete in 14 hours. Doesn't make much sense in part one of a trilogy.
Why would that work for a remake people know who Sephiroth was your not going to get that same feeling as the original in the 90's repeating the same beats wouldn't add to the experience because even people who've never played the game know the basic gist. Same with cloud and Zack twist and Arieths death. You can't unmask Vader you can't go back in time everyone knows the twist. I am your father isn't powerful its a meme that's just what happens to art the only one's who would enjoy a beat for beat remaster are purest who can enjoy the nostalgic feeling
It says something when Yahtzee takes the time to have the avatars actually look like the game characters rather than generic stand-ins because that means the designs stood out to him. He did it for Final Fantasy XIII as well.
The game gets hate because it categorically is not a remake. It is a sequel. "Remake" is the title of the game and refers to the villain's goal for the plot, not the actual nature of the game.
@@Chaos.A Well, supporting the company that employs the creator they enjoy. Though to be fair, I cant think of anyone else of note that works for the escapist
Having no real experience with the original (kind of hate turn based games), I was still able to follow well enough, enough context to derive what was going on, and what the ending ultimately meant.
So there is a lot of Merit to what he says but I feel like, no I know he didn't play through hard mode. Unlike most games where hard is just tougher bad guys it throws you a curve ball in that you can't use items and your mp is limited. This gives a whole depth to the strategy end of the game and if you realize that Cloud although the main protagonist is not your only character to use effectively then the game becomes more fair and balanced. I found the combat system actually worked quite well once I got the hang of it. The ending is confusing as all hell and the repetitive stuff is blatantly obvious but overall I think it's a good part one to a hopefully at least 3 part remake. Also if they can ever find a way to load more of a level without having you squeeze your ass through tight spaces every 20 min I'd appreciate it.
They couldn't call it Final Fantasy 7-1 because it would've gotten the game banned in Brazil
Why exactly ?
@@GameFan-pl7wp Soccer, Brazil v Germany (2014 FIFA World Cup)
@@anss321 oh wow okay thank you
@@anss321 Holy shit, 7-1 on wikipedia redirects to the wikipedia page about that match.
You learn something new every day.
"I'm English and therefore the funniest things in the world to me are men dressing as ladies... and the concept of social mobility." -The Crown Prince of Deadpan
Social mobility... Haha
The funny thing is Yahtzee's theory about sephiroth is 100% correct, he was originally barely in it until hameguchi(the combat director I believe) was like "hey can we have them fight sephiroth at the end?" And basically pestered nomura until he did it.
I don't think I've ever heard Yahtzee as legitimately mystified as he sounds at 3:35
I think he honestly broke character for a moment. Like, "Yeah, even after writing all this down that shit still doesn't make sense."
It also seems like at 2:53 he's actually holding back laughter, which is probably the first time I've ever heard him do that
@@fullmontisNoticed the same. Am mildly surprised the same didn't happen when he recited Destiny's original plot yet a perfectly reasonable point to crack up.
They could have avoided a fair amount of the "it's not the same" backlash by going the evangelion route and calling it a "rebuild". That would also set us up for it never ever being finished.
yeah but that wouldn't sell as well since all of the people that didn't play the original wouldn't be decieved into buying this one
trueNgt48 well SE is gonna realized how fucked they are after the backlash over the deceiving title and the fact it no longer follows the original and when the sales start going down for each part
Jesus christ, I completely forgot about Rebuild Evangelion. Looked it up and began laughing due to the fact it's not finished.
@@mrcrazy7865 I can pretty much guarantee you that the sales won't drop much. Particularly since aside from the hardcore "it's not the same" fanboys, most of the people I've heard talk about the game enjoyed it a fair bit. Hell, even Yatzee didn't bash the game as much as he does most JRPGs. I have no personal interest in the game both because it's not complete, and because I prefer many Final Fantasy games over VII, but a great many people do like and care about the game enough that I seriously doubt the poor title choice is going to upset sales any. Particularly because the vast majority of those hardcore fans who do feel the need to complain just because it's not the exact same game, will still pick up the future entries regardless......
Gamer3427 well if you look at the sales for the remake already in the UK, it’s already dropped to the bottom 10 after 3 weeks and is losing to games that came out years and even months ago (ex: Jedi fallen order and COD modern warfare). And the fact that it isn’t even a complete version of the original is gonna push off people to wait until it’s all done
Funny enough you look at the interviews with kitase/nojima/nomura and suddenly the idea of the plot being passed every 10 minutes between them doesn't sound that far off.
"Oh you tease" best ending line in a while.
Might as well call this Final Fantasy 7 : Cloud's Wacky Harem Adventures.
I'd watch that anime.
"The Melancholy of Strife Cloud-Chan" :P
at least harem adventures end in sex...
I was calling it Final Yakuza 7
People have been calling it that since the first one.
The "no slap" joke at the end had me laughing out loud for real. Well done.
"Blimey, my pretty anime swordboy daydreams about Gwyneth Paltrow a lot."
My sides are now on the moon with Cloud.
Sad part is clouds never gonna get his pizza
>Be wedge
>Like pizza
>become one
Titan Tohka Or his date with Tifa.
You misspelled "punani".
tad bit ironic when the girl who is promising you said delicious pizza gets killed by a giant slice of the one covering the entire sky.
That's a good thing. Considering how thirsty and crazy Jessie is this time around, she might as well swap the tomato sauce with her menstruation blood
“padded like an A-cup on school picture day”
That one phrase paints such a vivid image.
At this point Yahtzee isn’t a wordsmith.
He’s a wordartisan.
I still think his "more assholes than a donkey in an iron maiden" is the funniest thing I've ever heard.
Harley Q
What review is that from?
@@sirapple589
It's the L.A. Noire review!
Harley Q
Thank you.
No wonder he writes books
"Be a shame if she got impaled" XDD
One of the nice easter eggs they have is that Sephiroth will say "Oh the memories" when smacking the crap out of Aerith with his sword.
@@ArlanKels It is actually when he does a Fire infusion and he refers to burning down Nibelheim.
The Mayor.
*Spoiler alert!* XDXDXD
*low-key hates you for making me laugh at that* lol
They spent all this time on a third of the story?! Peter Jackson would be proud.
Edit:
Yeah, I misheard him guys. But Peter would still be proud.
Technically it's about 1/3 of only disk 1.
And Jackson cut a lot from the books, says more about Tolkien imho.
A third of the first disc.
i think it is more to do with the engine they used not being optimized at the time, same problem with kingdom heart III
@@kaizer-777 So it's like if the first Hobbit movie was just Bilbo hanging around the Shire with the Dwarves. and it's still three hours long.
“Hey remember when you could get off on light BDSM?”
*No slap*
“Oh You tease”
I was howling from that. XD
"Oh you tease." It loses all sense of flow without the "oh;" fix it.
Edit; HE FIXED IT!!! 😁
He always has a funny joke at the end
Yes, well done, we all watched the video too.
Majora Except Yahtzee’s gone on record multiple time’s to say he hates this type of RUclips comment. It adds nothing. It’s just filling the air and begging for likes.
Hey remember when Yahtzee thought this was a temporary gig to fuel a writing career that never took off? *Slap*
@@theodorepinnock1517 Eight? mogworld, jam, galaxy 1, differently morpheous and galaxy 2. What are the other three?
@@theodorepinnock1517 Are those published though, or just books that he distributed online?
@@theodorepinnock1517 I've heard of maybe three, and it's only through self-plugging on this show. Just getting published doesn't mean success, and the fact is more people know about him from this show than those books. It's obvious where his revenue stream lies, what with entering into two other video projects from the same magazine.
@@singularityghost6290 What other revenue stream can you get with life as a writer in this century. He's making money off his writing career, and you're commenting on a video that is the only reason Escapist has over a million subscribers. He's done alright by modern media standards for sure
TBH a large chunk of writers never reach a level of success that they can survive of book sales alone they usually have some other job for consistent income because professional writing takes either an insane amount of luck or knowing exactly the right people to really take off, and it's rarely indicative of talent, for every worthy success story eg. Harry potter there's an abomination that gets inextricably popular eg. Fifty Shades, good artists are rarely recognized in their own time as well Lovecraft never lived to see his works truly take off for example. TL:DR, not having a writing career "take off", and having to keep one's "Day Job" so to speak is nothing to be ashamed off and happens to the best of us.
Games having actual stuff in them is a thing of the past Yahtzee. Get with the times. The kids these days are into expansion packs and Pavlovian conditioning.
Expansion packs have been a thing for a long time.
@@switchplayer1016 I cringe when I see people crying when they saw the trailers. I've played the original twice through but for fuck's sake its not the gospel of games
Xtraflux
No, Pavlovian Conditioning is a method of training something to have a certain reaction to a specific stimulus.
The way Pavlov used it was that he had a bell and when he rung it, the dogs he had trained would salivate.
It’s an incredibly interesting thing.
@@TheCoffeeNut711 it's pretty up there in terms of importance for western gaming.
@@switchplayer1016 Perfect game to wait until 2026 for and buy the 3-part collection on sale.
5:43 The way he said, "no slap" is so hilarious.
"I guess spectacle is all that matters in JRPGs these days."
...Damn, he has a point there.
He wasn't as scathing as I was expecting. Except for the bit about the ending, which deserves it.
Running Commentary 21 great ending imo. The last few mins was as good as it gets.
@@girshin If we're just talking about the last few cutscenes, I wholeheartedly agree.
Running Commentary 21 I am yes. Probably from where we first see Zack to “I miss the steal sky” with the rain and the song hollow playing.
It’s just perfect and makes me want the next episode.
If they had just made the changes to the story without feeling the need for an in-universe explanation of why the things that happened differently in this version happened differently it would have been great. The whispers made an 8/10 into a 5/10. They even could have kept the showdown with Sephiroth via one of the clones. But I guess it's just not a real fantasy story if it doesn't have contrived predetermination as a central theme.
David Wilson we live in a predetermined universe 🤷♂️
It doesn't matter how long you've been doing this because I will always enjoy this format and I will never get tired of your outro music.
Never played a FF game, wonder if there’s a simple summary of the story anywhere
Amnesiac falls in love, bad guy wants to blow up the world to absorb its life energy, bad guy kills amnesiac's love interest, amnesiac kills bad guy, world blows up anyway, everybody dies, boom, Final Fantasy VII
"Simple" might be a bit too much to expect, but FFVII is at least of the generation where it didn't take three encyclopedias and a college course to figure out what's going on.
*SPOILERS BELOW*
* Long ago the planet was populated by Ancients.
* A meteor fell at the north pole containing a horrible planet-eating entity called Jenova. The Ancients stopped it or sealed it up or something. Most of them died.
* An evil mega-corp named Shinra is all evil and mega-corpy. It finds, exploits Jenova to create enhanced soldiers and monsters, and siphons the planet's life-energy to power its cities and create magic crystals called Materia.
* One of its super soldiers is named Sephiroth. He's the Big Bad. He's so bishonen that it's physically painful.
* Cloud is a small town kid with big dreams. He joins Shinra, is there when Sephiroth discovers that he was altered with Jenova cells, gets caught up in Sephiroth's freak-out, kills Sephiroth, is put in a tank and experimented on.
* Cloud escapes (with help), has a whole lot of amnesia and false memories, goes to Midgar (a big multi-layer city that's Shinra's HQ and is made of congealed class warfare and oppression). *This is where the game starts*
* Cloud meets his childhood love interest Tifa and her ecoterrorist gang, blows stuff up. Meets Aerith, the last Ancient. Stereotypical anime love triangle ensues.
* Sephiroth is still alive (gasp!), murders half of Shinra, everyone leaves and goes on a big trek through the countryside with oodles of side quests.
* Sephiroth wants to use evil magic (Meteor) to wound the Planet and absorb all its life energy to become a god.
* Turns out Cloud is battier than a belfry and gives Meteor to Sephiroth.
* Aerith has the key to stop him. Aerith departs the world abruptly, crushing shippers' dreams forever.
* The world goes to hell. Cloud betrays everyone, falls comatose, a bunch of living Weapons get out.
* Tifa figures out that Cloud's got false memories oozing from his brain, helps him mop them up.
* Everyone's back together and they go take on Sephiroth with the Power of Resolved Character Arcs.
* The world ends, then doesn't end, then ends, then doesn't end again. The end.
"A group of teenagers who use the power of friendship to kill God."
Angsty blonde ex-Amazon employee with big knife loses girlfriend to beautiful alien man and the planet gets saved at some point from a comet. Edit: Also you can ride big bird from sesame street.
@@magicmon I was just going to suggest that.
Buster Sword as ironing board. Hey, it's big enough.
Yea but dont touch the sword if you do it
It was too big to be called a sword, more like a board for ironing.
This one stood out to me as particularly good among recent episodes. I never looked at the video progress bar even once. Nicely done!
And that closing gag was superb.
The part when Tifa tells Cloud to go talk to Barret's daughter, then Barrett yells and shoves Cloud for standing by his daughter for two seconds. Then, Tifa just stands there like she didn't just tell Cloud to talk to her, made me realize I'm probably not going to like this game. This game is so awkward, but I do like seeing Midgar with the shiny graphics. A lot.
ah so the plot got nomura'd
The reason Barret shoved Cloud away from Marlene gets explained 2 seconds after the above sequence.
And considering Cloud's personality, the reason Barret gives make a hell of a lot of sense.
@@katsasgeorge there is a part later in the game about how cloud gave Marlene murder eyes and cloud is softening up, being more real of a person. Also, don’t talk to strangers
"Blimey my pretty anime boy sure daydreams about Gwyneth Paltrow a lot."
Have a like good sir
Best line I've heard in like a year or more.
That made me literally lol.
hahahaha epic line take a reddit gold my good sir
Reddit incarnate
Gwyneth but with a dick
Kinky
Every episode makes me laugh
@@Spartacus114 thankyou
I was gonna like this comment but it has 69 likes atm
@bill nye the russian spy he died for our laughs
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@@Zoxide_ what do you mean
"Maybe they didn't wanted to call it FF 7-1 because it would sound like football results"
4 years later, and I still feel your pain, my brazilian brothers. And I am an argentinian.
David Castro You're forgetting FF X-2 and FF XIII-2 were a thing...
I like calling this treatment "Getting Nomura'd" Which is basically a description of the entire Kingdom Hearts timeline as well.
At least they called it a remake and not a remaster. Because that's exactly what they did, remade everything and called it the same thing.
Nomura was also a 20-something fashion designer that could be told No. He wasn't lauded as a genius or revolutionary yet.
I don't really think he is alone in this, Square enix absolutely love this kind of convoluted narration that is all over the place. But to be fair Nomura is doing something right, and even if his plots are absolute nonsense and the dialogs are laughtable at best I'm always weirdly invested in those crazy stories.
I really don't like Nomura tbh. Dude's not a good director. Only need to look at how long FF15 spent in development hell pre-production because of him to see that.
Now Naoki Yoshida, there's a guy who I want to see get the reigns to FF16.
@@666slateran666 He is talking about the Remake wich was being directed by Nomura until SE said "go finish KH 3".
@@bainbonic I still miss Hiroyuki Itou.
So, as a layman, tell me if I've got this straight: They spent 5 or more years working on a remake, based on a sub-franchise they already milked as much as possible before this (from fans who were prior to this outsiders to the pre-existing examples of the JRPG genre), and end up releasing only ONE-TWELFTH of the original game at full-price?
basically, but they stretched 6 hours of the game to around 30.
@@switchplayer1016 Closer to 1/6th, Midgar is a small portion of the original.
Nope its full game.
It's even more insulting than that. They didn't just sell you a small fraction of the original game at full retail price, they padded out that small fraction with unnecessary fluff to trick people into thinking the game has more content than the original.
@@greenboots_4661 and @Shezar20
How can you call a remake that advertises itself as THE remake to a beloved game yet features less than a third of the story with filler that no one asked for padding it out a full game?
"So what was the fucking point of any of that" I love the almost-chuckle that slipped through on that line.
"Ain't she a peach. Be a shame if she got impaled."
Yeah, real shame. Still, if it does, there's always Phoenix Down, right?
Ludonarrative dissonance, ho!
Obligatory "Phoenix Downs only work if you're *knocked out* not *dead* dumbo"
Because when a dragon bites your head off everyone knows you're only fainting from the embarrassment of it all.
Dont you dare bring up the "Life" spell.
Phoenix downs don't revive the dead. No one ever dies in battle, they are simply "KO"ed, which is where the phoenix down comes in. It revives the person from a downed state, not death. This is how it is in every FF. I don't care how spectacular the effects of the spells and shit are, in the narrative the characters win every battle unscathed and no one ever dies unless scripted too anyway so it really is just a separation of story and plot. So in the end: don't even mention it, it's not worth it.
@@Rebellions Yes, of course, no one dies from damage sustained in FF7 -- because everyone knows that the worst a planet-crushing meteor strike can do when it hits you is knock you out.
So, a sword through the heart should be no big deal, right? She'll be *fine.*
@@smward87 Sorry, I know some people are still torn up about that part of the game. But c'mon, it's the feathers of a _phoenix,_ not a jar of smelling salts -- coming back from the dead is kinda their whole *deal.* And you can't expect me to believe that getting hit by a _meteor that crushes planets on its way to hitting me_ is going to be less lethal than getting stabbed, FF7 -- a Tonberry stabbed everyone in my party earlier, and they practically walked that off.
A strong enough dissonance between story and gameplay can completely ruin the experience, frankly, and no matter which way you try to rationalize this one, it _still_ makes no bloody sense.
The gambling town was easily the most fun. Funny moments, wacky mements, intense moments, it's just a delight.
It was easily the worst part for me, but it always has been. Its a time wasting section on the way to far more serious plot points and they EXPANDED on that this go around. "DON CORNEO IS GOING TO CHOOSE A BRIDE AT ANY TIME! ...now run around town and do a whole bunch of stuff instead of just busting down the front door." Its so freaking stupid, especially when the end result was going to be the same either way, you were GOING to get that information from Corneo and escape and he was always going to be ostracized from Shinra for it. Its just dumb as hell that you have to run around doing all sorts of inane tasks to get from Point A to point B.
Palladiamors Of course it makes no sense. But if you start looking at Final fantasy that way, you can rip the entire story apart, since basiclly nothing makes sense.
-Through out the entire game the entire Party is getting shot and never hit by a bullet.
- Barret could have easily shot reno and rude through that scene and saved the Day
- Cloud can rip through buildings and can jump several Meters with two children through the air and is yet hindered by simple things standing in his way.
- Sneaking into the shinra building on top of that truck the way they did, should have exposed them right away.
- And I don't even know where to Start with the wispers and Sephiroth.
If my enjoyment of the game would hinge on what makes sense, I would have hated the entire story.
2:52 I like how you can hear him crack up at the absurdity of it for a second
I feel like, after all this time, this is still the most accurate representation of what's wrong with this game
2:55 lol i never heard Yahtzee be so confused at a game's storytelling that he can't help but snort laughter himself
God that end bit with Clouds sword turning into an ironing board. Zero punctuation end bit are always so enjoyable.
“I guess spectacle is all that matters in JRPGs these days.”
Given the number of times my limit breaks either missed or were interrupted by me getting nailed by a power attack because Tifa and Cloud have to turn the anime up to 11 and no one thought it might be a good idea to prevent enemy attacks and movement while they dramatically pose so that they'll have almost certainly have moved before you actually attack, I think he has a point.
Not really, it's about timing up. You are not meant to perform certain attacks when the enemy is on the move or about to strike, you are meant to read the body language and assess what to do. You can pause for a reason, I am surprised that people are struggling with certain mechanics, I played the original and I love turn based, but this hybrid is good and really not that hard at all to adapt to. It's rather enjoyable even.
@@Carnage7209 It's the downside of a hybrid system that allows you to perform combos, which on the other hand, you can't do that in turn based. I can command Cloud to do his limit break and then quickly change to Tifa to execute an ability and vice versa. Combos like these give you a lot more dynamic as a comparison.
Just because it's one of the downsides of this battle system it doesn't make it a flaw per se. The same way you can't do any sort of timing with turn based and have to wait out for certain actions to be performed in full. Which let's be honest about that, even back in 1998 the waiting time was excruciating (summons being the best example), we just didn't know better.
Again, like I said in my first post, I do in fact wait for enemies to be busy with other characters, pausing for wtv reason or staggered. Come on, it's really not that hard. Lure the enemy to the character you do not want to use and quickly switch to the one using limit break to perform it when he has his back against you.
@@trailoffiends I think the problem is that, at certain hps the boss battle goes into a scripted state where the boss does a little dance to show-off the next phase of the fight, and they become invincible when doing so. So its really annoying when I use a limit move (ahem Ascension) when a boss is staggered and like 70% of the move misses because the first 30% knocks the boss into the next phase.
@@D-H-C Makes sense, I agree with that. Granted I am not implying that it's a perfect system, it should be corrected in a few cases, but I sense some exaggeration in criticism over this. This is undoubtedly better than turn based.
For those who are struggling a bit on bosses, I would just recommend the use of Refocus. Those 3 ATB bars become much more important than limit breaks when taking too much damage.
"like they were tag-teaming the writers out every 10 minutes and they weren't allowed to talk to eachother"
sounds a lot like Fallout 4's writing
Yahtzee did not once make a meticulous analogy on how the characters dress so I'm already disappointed
2:40 _"How the terrorism dear"_
That cracked me up. 🤣
The whole oh no sequence, this is why I can listen to these so many times. Along with all his audio books. Good stuff.
"yes, several." I heartily laughed at this, thank you!
The Gwyneth Paltrow bit killed me. Holy cow that was beautiful! 🤣
0:02 -- why yes, Yahtzee, I am violently allergic to ads and OH MY GOD NOOOOO[dies]
Cloud using his sword as an ironing board is an image I didn't know I needed in my life until this video.
It's more like a 4th of the original disc 1. Midgar was long, but it was simply the beginning of just the first disc. You end that first one on your way out of the City of the Ancients!
I am also really torn about it. For one, I really like seeing all these familiar places and characters in a graphical... Well prowess really, like I'm surprised my Playstation didn't melt.
On the other hand this game has Advent Children directing, Kingdom Hearts writing and FF 15's Jank all over the place.
And to be honest, I can't stand that Nomura guy, he really is my no 1 Shonen antagonist.
Yeah, he did the character conceptualizations for the original FF 7 but he had no say in the writing, what so ever.
When he suddenly began to gain power, fuck knows how, he was put in charge of Kingdom Hearts, which is fine, I hate Disney even more than him now, but still it's fine.
But suddenly he was in charge of FF7, writing and directing the Advent Children (where he famously proved that meat delivery workers aren't supposed to prepare the food as well because he has absolutely no idea what made them work in the first place) and now the FF 7 Remake, where everything that gets negatively reviewed by fans is the jank that Tetsuya wrote in. Like legit, I have read some interviews where the upper echelon of Square had to pull him back a bit because he went fucking rampant on that game, making it in his vision, rather than the game that elevated Square to superhero status...
As you can see, I am still pissed about it.
And that's why I got Trials of Mana for my nostalgia overdose instead of FF7 "remake"
I reimagined what Aerith's death scene will be like when they eventually get to it several disks and decades later.
The end of the game made it seem like they were taking the story in a new direction. The story will be new from here on out
They had to change the entire story going forward to make it not happen, not because it would please the fans, but because it would end up looking like a snuff film by the time they got to it.
How about if instead of him appearing and stabbing her just as she's trying to heal the planet... she instead runs up a bunch of stairs while everything's exploding, right, like in Dirge of Cerberus (Squenix reference!)... and then he shoots at her with a gun, because we all know Sephiroth uses a gun right, (Squenix style!), but she deflects every bullet a microsecond before it would go through her brain (Advent Children, woo!), but then he corners her and nearly kills her, but she dramatically kills herself in defiance! (DoC again)
She'll not die. They don't have the balls.
@@ilikecookies72_45 Except they are already backpedaling pretty hard core on that front after the backlash. And if its a new story far, FAR more people will be angry since they wanted Final Fantasy VII, not "Nomura's New Wet Dream."
after that 'final' we all know yahtzees 'fantasy'
I bet Yahtzee is fucking ripped from carrying this fucking channel on his back all these years
Clearly the answer to getting Yahtzee to liking JRPGs is to remake them far worse in 20 years so they look better by comparison.
He didn't really like this or the original.
The way they inserted Sephiroth in from the early chapters and consistently teased him was irritating, especially watching that feather repeatedly fall in front of a stupefied Cloud. By the time I finally got to fight him I didn't give a damn anymore. He was also pretty easy even just compared to the boss before him.
There was also no build up to him. Any new player isn't going to know how much of a threat he is because, well, the game tells you nothing about him.
@@Ashurman666 I am one of said new players. I know he's the important main bad guy of the series, but I don't know anything about who he is as a person, his motivations or even why he can fly and do crazy, magical shit no one had done up until that point. The mystery surrounding him is also vague enough that I don't find it compelling. He was more of a character in kingdom hearts and I've heard fans lament how he was completely butchered there.
@@WolframiteWraith Bingo. See in the original game he didn't make his grand appearance until...i think around the end of disc 1 or two, i forget and before that he actually gets built up. Hell there's an entire part of Cloud going into his own backstory when he was in Soldier to build up just how much of a legend Sephiroth was when he was a Soldier(Basically the best Solider that ever was) as well as show his slow fall from grace and into madness. Also all the bullshit he spouts about "saving the planet"? Fuck no, in the original he wanted to destroy it all! Especially after he found out who, or should i say, WHAT he really is
@@Ashurman666 Well at the very least the remake has got me to start searching for the original game since I was so disappointed. Still deciding between the PC with the mods to clean up the backgrounds or just the console remaster version since that's how I prefer to play and own most of my games.
@@WolframiteWraith Pc with mods since mods can make the game look much, MUCH better, especially with the new models and animations like ninostyle's models. that's my preferred way to play the game. Well that and the New Threat mod but i don't recommend that to a newcommer
I'd go with "false advertising", but not for the lenght, it was known that it was going to be episodic and not the full game.
it's false advertising for another reason...
Hard agree.
Doesn't seem to be episodic, there's no schedule.
@@usul573 uh... it IS episodic... the first part they released is just the midgard part. not even half of the story, they covered only the "prologue" of the story. it will take like four or five more releases if they plan to make it as long as the original.
@@pelgervampireduck What's the difference between calling it a series or episodic? Or a trilogy? It just seems like it's hard to even define what it is and only time will tell.
The game is only going to get more confusing for newcomers (and possibly some forgetful older fans) as Final Fantasy VII Remake seems to be incorporating more stuff from the "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" series! This (unfortunately) means that you won't know about all the characters unless you're ALSO familiar with Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII, Crisis Core, & Dirge of Cerberus. The Before Crisis game was a mobile game that never left Japan so the best you can hope for is a Let's Play with an English translation. In the case of Dirge of Cerberus, you need to know both the story of the single-player mode AND the MMO mode that never left Japan! In the latter case, you'll have to hope you can find some translated Let's Plays if you want to see it! I don't expect Dirge of Cerberus or Crisis Core to be re-released anytime soon either since Square Enix would either have to get permission from Gackt (a Japanese pop star) to use his likeness again or change the design of the character who was based on him!
The combat got more fun when I switched to using Tifa as my main. Her more up close and personal fighting style was more engaging for me. Unfortunately I was like 3/4 through the game before I did this.
I'm sorry, the "I'm English..." line is three funniest in the show
Lol three instead of the is hurting my brain
I love Final fantasy vii! Its a good adventure with a fantastic story and I hope it keeps getting better from here!
Maybe it's just the pandemic getting to me but your reviews this year have been some of the best, Yahtzee. So funny, I almost can't watch them at work anymore from how often I hold back a laugh and choke from it. X'D
In today's Yahtzee special:
No Slap. Oh you tease >.>
I liked the game, still have to agree with the video.
- Some areas felt padded
- The AI of your team mates is... urgh
- Air combat is awful
- You have a dodge roll, but your iFrames are so short... I played Dark Souls and had to remind myself "no do not use the dodgeroll!"
- Enemies will for the most part target the character you are controling
- If you do limits, you can die while the animation is played
- You can stagger enemies to do more damage, but sometimes those staggers run right into a mid battle cutscene (same with some Limitbreaks)
I really hope Square Enix sees those negative points as well and will improve it in part 2.
# The ending of the game is a big controversy, there is a vocal minority, hating the game with a passion because of that ending.
+Really like the music
+Characters felt more fleshed out and i actually did like them.
+Wall Market!
+Even with so many points that felt annyoing with the gameplay, the battle system was still fun and the boss fights especially were awsome.
+I am curious where the story will go this time.
The dodge is less for the sake of s and more for the sake of get-the-hell-outta-that-spot-the-enemy-is-attacking, I think.
I tend to agree with you. I still had fun doing all the little side quests, but they definitely felt like padding. Combat is fun, until you realize that everyone is about to die, and Aerith is in the corner picking her nose instead of healing even though she has all of the healing materia. Or enemies can fly. or a cut scene interrupted your limit break.
I liked the change up of the story. The characters got more characterization and I ended up liking ones that I kinda disliked in the original. (Even though Yahtzee was dead on about the bit where you go help Jessie.)
And Wall Market. Was. AMAZING! I had to pause the game when Tifa sees Cloud all dolled up for the first time I was laughing so hard. And the toning down of the blatant homophobia from the original was nice.
I do really wish they had put "Part 1" in there somewhere. I really don't like paying full price for *part* of a game, not matter how long it is. Especially when I could play what is (Or, what I expected would be) the same game, bought as a single game, right now because I own it on two different platforms.
Yeah I agree. Was it a perfect game? By no means but I think you can very much feel the love of ff7 the production had it shines through greatly in some very refreshing ways when it does work and it feels like the the dev team are taking all the criticisms to heart so I'm excited to see the progress in part 2
Yeah, I remember when Mass Effect 3 was new, shitheels were calling its detractors a "VoCaL mInOrItY" too. Anytime you want to downplay sometime, just call it a VoCaL mInOrItY and hope nobody points out you have no fucking evidence whatsoever it's a VoCaL mInOrItY and not a widespread criticism.
It IS, in fact, a widespread criticism among people with an IQ above room temperature. Everyone clamored for DECADES to get a remake of FF7, and the ending is a metaphor for these fans in which you KILL THEM so the developers can do whatever goofy Kingdom Hearts bullshit they want in coming episodes. We asked for a remake of FF7, not FF7: cocaine edition. We knew we weren't getting 1:1, and we were fine with 1:1.2. We aren't fine with 1:banana, and that's what we're getting going forward. The ending could NOT have been more clear on this, but you still get retards who defend it saying "I'm sure, based on nothing at all, that they won't change the plot too much." Aerith's death is the lynchpin of the original plot, it doesn't work AT ALL with her alive. But her death is literally one of those "things that will happen only if we lose here today" from the ending. She's 100% going to live. The storyline going forward will be COMPLETELY different, and Square's B team doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. People are right to be pissed. If you aren't pissed, you don't understand what's going on. They've ALREADY given us alternate timelines and time travel bullshit (Aerith from this is the Aerith from the original, meaning she already went through the plot and knows everything) and this one was 90% faithful! What in God's name will the rest be like?!
@@Veladus dude chill its video gamez
This is, without a doubt, THE best ZP ever. The jokes, visuals, gags, takeaway, writing, Yahtzee being mystified by a game 2 times in a review, the slap ending, and the end cards 😂!
Wait, does the remake really only have like 1/9th of the orginal game? What?
Nah, Yahtzee is exaggerating. The Midgar section is actually one of the most plot heavy areas in the original game. Like, the game can be completed in about 35-40 hours on a blind run, 3-5 of which you spend in Midgar, (100%-ing the game tends to clock in on about 85-90 hours and speedrunners can blast through the game in less than 9 hours,) but the writing gets a bit sparse after the Midgar section, to the extent that it contains about 1/4th or even 1/3rd of the full game's dialogue and exposition. Trudging through the overworld and dungeons actually consumes most of the time you spend in the game.
I think the false advertising complaints were more about the fact that it’s literally not a remake, Gwyneth Paltrow is going back in time and changing everything, and not that it’s only the first part of the story.
Paul Bennett Yup, pretty much.
Remember when Square tried Time traveling plots in Final Fantasy xiii and XIII-2?
Yeah I totally want that in FF 7....🙄
URFTBOUND4LIFE What, you don’t trust Nomura to make a competent and sensical time travel plot?
“No slap” Zero Punctuation: “oh you tease”
I'm glad you mentioned it, because I was really annoyed at how many times there were collapsing structures and people falling
That ending was so perfect I nearly choked on my pizza.
I think saying the game is padded is a bit of a copout. Every side mission is rewarded with a bit of story and the non story side missions are rewarded with revenge or cute moments.
Its easy to say "I remember the days when games came in one whole chunk with no dlcs and a complete story" but thats just not the world we live in now, even a ff7 remake can be a risk. I think they did a great job of introducing people to the world and giving gameplay deep enough to take you through the plat . Now we get the pleasure of waiting for a new episode of a game so many people loved.
It's not called Remake part 1 since word remake is connected to plot. This game is a remake and sequel at the same time. Same reason why Sephiroth is appearing all the time. Also the point is for you to play all the characters. It's designed for you to change between them.
Doesn't excuse shitty AI
Shame I can't use that explanation to get a Final Fantasy VII: Refund
It's implied that you suppose to switch between all the characters at all times.
I'll just go and play the original FFVII.
I'm stoked you fid this one. Im a big ff7 fan but theres been way to much praise for this remake
I watched this review before I started the game, and I really thought the part about inspecting Wedge's butt was a joke.
People often forget the third disc of the og game is basically the last mission, story wise. Like...4 hours top? The reason why is a separate disc is because you could technically get out of the crater and explore the world for side stuff. But story? Not so much.
The intro had me thinking, Your right yatzee, it has been an awfully long time I've been dropping in to watch you do this, I don't really play games anymore and I haven't owned a console since before Azeroth got flooded. So why do I keep coming back to watch you moan about games i'll never buy anyway?
"Oh you tease" oh yeah brilliant, considered and insightful writing!
Ten years now? Wow, I remember the dumpster fire that made me quit WoW like it was yesterday...
I keep reading the characters lines with the voice actors from FFVII Machinabridged in my head.
"The Mayor."
You owe me a pizza.
I haven't watched ZP in years but you some how manage to keep fresh and this had me laughing like all of your old reviews, amazing.
Amidst all the gushing about this game, I'm just happy to see someone take an actual critical eye to it
Zero Punctuation indie rock track name of the week: Shame If She Got Impaled
Runner-up: My Pretty Anime Sword Boy Sure Daydreams About Gwyneth Paltrow A Lot
I had no idea this series was still going. Lol. I used to watch these on the other site, but I guess it's been a few years. I had forgotten how I felt to have the things I love broken into pieces and danced around on. Lol. Also, I hella missed this voice and the animation.
I forgot zero punctuation existed. Damn been years at least.
Congrats on making it on the trend tab.
I really liked this game (even if I have mixed feeling about the ending) and specially the combat and soundtrack but I love Yahtzee take on it because almost every jokes he made are on point ! Would love to see a Civil War on FF7 Remake
To be fair, Square Enix has been very clearly stating that FF7remake would be episodic. Not sure if they stated, just HOW episodic, though. It very well could be 8-9 parts.
I could even understand 3 or 4, but 8 or 9 would definitely be an obvious attempt to over milk it.
@@trailoffiends Well, I never played the original, so I don't know how much story part 1 covered, but from what I've heard from other sources too, it's not much. Unless they just start cramming it in in the final parts, I think 5 episodes is the minimum we can expect.
@@codmanout9861 Midgar is like the first 4 or 6 hours of the original indeed. However, I want to believe that since doing everything, including a world map, would be too much for a first iteration. Nevermind that Sephiroth's inclusion and the fade stuff was probably a way to make this segment of the story feel eventful enough to warrant a purchase. Now that foundations are set, it should be easier to materialize the rest of the world by not attempting to grind the story that much. Granted, I am sure some future characters will be more fleshed out as well as a few locations, but 3 games more is really all that it's needed.
Remember when Sephiroth was hardly hinted at and you thought the real baddie was going to be President Shinra and then it's a huge upset when you find him killed by Sephiroth? Remember how much great build-up that gave the villain?
Well Remake doesn't remember, hence why Sephiroth gives a generic villain monologue 5 minutes after the Bombing Run like a Horror Movie showing it's monster in the first 20 minutes.
When you put it like that you are right. But if you know the fact that this is an sequel to the whole ff7 compilation then this makes total sense. But for new players I do admit that they show a lot of Sephiroth without actually explaining him a lot. But this is the first part and they will probably explain him right at the beginning of the next part.
to be fair, Sephiroth is also one of the most iconic video game villains of all time now, so if they were trying to be coy about it I'd have to ask who they think they're fooling.
@@android19willpwn It also means that 40 hours of this game would be spent on building up a villain that is then killed offscreen by a character that was never mentioned up till that point.
Makes sense in a game that you can complete in 14 hours. Doesn't make much sense in part one of a trilogy.
The whole world already knows who Sephiroth is lol, a surprising reveal would be impossible.
Why would that work for a remake people know who Sephiroth was your not going to get that same feeling as the original in the 90's repeating the same beats wouldn't add to the experience because even people who've never played the game know the basic gist. Same with cloud and Zack twist and Arieths death.
You can't unmask Vader you can't go back in time everyone knows the twist. I am your father isn't powerful its a meme that's just what happens to art the only one's who would enjoy a beat for beat remaster are purest who can enjoy the nostalgic feeling
It says something when Yahtzee takes the time to have the avatars actually look like the game characters rather than generic stand-ins because that means the designs stood out to him. He did it for Final Fantasy XIII as well.
Wait, the escapist website has adverts?
I've never seen one :P
The game gets hate because it categorically is not a remake. It is a sequel. "Remake" is the title of the game and refers to the villain's goal for the plot, not the actual nature of the game.
Laugh at the people with 6 day old comments because they payed for youtube membership
Yeah laugh at the people supporting a creator they enjoy
@@Chaos.A Well, supporting the company that employs the creator they enjoy. Though to be fair, I cant think of anyone else of note that works for the escapist
@@patchmoulton5438 True, but supporting The Escapist is the only way to support Yhatzee it seems.
It's only 2 bucks a month.
@@Chaos.A I could have sworn he had a Patreon but I wouldn't be surprised if the escapist wouldn't allow it
Having no real experience with the original (kind of hate turn based games), I was still able to follow well enough, enough context to derive what was going on, and what the ending ultimately meant.
Cosidering where this story goes. I don't know about that.
I love when Yatz breaks character for just a second in this:
"So wha-*nose exhale and holds back laugh mid sentence*-t's the point of any of that?"
“Oh you tease~” fucking killed me
So there is a lot of Merit to what he says but I feel like, no I know he didn't play through hard mode. Unlike most games where hard is just tougher bad guys it throws you a curve ball in that you can't use items and your mp is limited. This gives a whole depth to the strategy end of the game and if you realize that Cloud although the main protagonist is not your only character to use effectively then the game becomes more fair and balanced. I found the combat system actually worked quite well once I got the hang of it. The ending is confusing as all hell and the repetitive stuff is blatantly obvious but overall I think it's a good part one to a hopefully at least 3 part remake. Also if they can ever find a way to load more of a level without having you squeeze your ass through tight spaces every 20 min I'd appreciate it.
The word is merit
@@drmilkweed thank you grammer police and it's been changed.
I had a lot of fun with the game play in FF7R - I think I liked it better than the original. The storyline, I'm unsure of, but the gameplay was great.
The art reminds me of “Final Fantasy song” by LegendaryFrog on Newsgrounds
This ending will forever be my favorite.
I don't understand why they didn't just, you know, remake Final Fantasy VII
Because Nomura touched it
Because this how new reboots tend to do things.
As a Brazilian I resent the credit's final line.
As the Grandson of a German immigrant I'm quite happy with the credit's final line.