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But where did he get it from? I think he committed a unforgivable sin. I think he bought it from scalpers. I think he deserves to loose his remaining organs for this.
This is the first time I'm commenting about something like this, but the picture of Hideo Kojima throwing up his hands and, with a completely flat face, proclaiming "piss grenades" made me laugh out loud, and now it does every time I think of it again
I know, sometimes it's the weird shit that gets you, like in his RE... 4? 5? (can't remember) review where he says something with a plain still of himself in his desk, then to elaborate, says "allow me to expand" and the figure of himself suddenly switches to a fat version; One slight comedic pause later, this is still my top joke from ZP. It's so stupid, I know, but that's what makes it funny.
Agreed that is an interesting trip for us Souls lovers, but I finally get to hear the maiden say "touch the demon inside me" in HD and that's all that matters
"Soul of the mind key to life ether. Soul of the lost withdrawn from it's vessel. Let strength be grant, so the world might be mended, So the world might be mended." Kinda does it for me.
The Penetrator, The Pursuer, The Dancer... Basically if a boss has a verb for a name better get ready for an ass-whooping even more brutal than the usual. -The Commentator
Except you can parry The Pursuer and use a balista to kill him, parry him and beat him to death, or summon. And The Dancer is super weak to dark damage, meaning the dark hand you can get shortly after beating Vordt (Meet Yoel on the bridge before the Undead Settlement, extract true strength, then suicide until you can no longer extract true strength. Then just fast travel to the shrine from the shrine and buy the dark hand from Yuria right away.) can be used to beat her easily. You can also wait and use a dark infused lothric longsword, or summon.
I wonder if anyone informed good, ol' Yahtz that OG Demon's souls didn't have *send to the bank* option so if your inventory was full you had to tap dance your way back to the hub.
To be fair he was advocating for taking the problem out entirely. Yeah stockpile Thomas would've been jobless bit it would've been way more convenient.
@@ForeverLaxx There's definitely the argument for keeping it as originally designed though. The convenience of just sending them back helps a lot over the original without changing the overall experience of it.
@@DWFTW But what if they just made the experience better instead? They're already changing it, and obviously it's not going to be exactly the same anyway, may as well go the extra mile and make a change that would be approved by almost everyone who isn't a strict purist.
@@ForeverLaxx The problem in Demon's Souls on PS3 was never that you could only carry a limited amount of items. The problem was that if you tried to pick an item up, but it exceeded your item burden, then it would automatically be dropped on the ground and would permanently be lost if you entered a loading screen. And since the only way to offload gear was to visit Stockpile Thomas in the Nexus _through a loading screen_ you would always lose items. That is why they made the change that they did.
@@isodoubIet sure, not his most impressive, but somehow the image of it really happening/existing was particularly surreal and gross. I think "boxcar full of human skin" is still my favorite though
nothing will ever trump "... I'd rather swallow razor wire, pull the end out of my arse, and floss myself to death". Yes, I know it's not a simile, but I don't care
1:20 This is a very strange detail for me to notice. When Yahtzee gets asked the first question by the imp, he smiles. But when he gets asked the follow-up question, he has a slightly bigger smile. Nice little dig at Demon's Souls there.
Someone must have friends in high places. I've had enough funds to buy multiple PS5s since before launch, I just can't find the bloody things anywhere!
The only way to catch them now is to honestly stay up really late and get them as soon as a stock drops. I followed a few subreddits and twitter users who would funnel news about stock drops and stayed up till midnight refreshing the same website, but my patience paid off and I got one!
@@ForeverLaxx Like that guy who bought all the water in his village and started selling it at outrageous prices, he got killed by a mob. In the civilized world that wouldnt happen of couse, since there are laws and stuff. So you may need to hire an assasin for that. What were we talking about?
@@Dasgath I feel like this entire thread could be solved by incredibly rich companies not artificially limiting stock on items to artificially inflate demand, as if they couldn't easily afford to produce according to the demand rather than a production model designed to make sure the most favorable voices get heard first and loudest.
I didnt know this would be the first time Yahtz actually played Demon's Souls start to end I just always assumed he might've gone back to play it on the PS3 after falling in love with Dark Souls
@@psychomantis183 He loves Bloodbourne too but I agree with you The only reason he started liking dark souls is because everyone pestered him to stick with it until he understood why it was good 😂 Even though I agree with Yahtzee when he says DS2 and DS3 werent as good, I feel like he never gave Sekiro enough chance to see the beauty in it.
@@ZodiacEntertainment2 Well that is your opinion. To me Sekiro has the deepest gameplay mechanics (iceberg levels of deep) which is unmatched compared to any of the other FromSoftware titles whereas the other games feel expansive horizontally. Sekiro feels more stylish when mastered than titles that claim to be stylish combat games like the Devil May Cry and Bayonetta. It has more replayability just in terms of sheer fun that you can have with the mechanics of the game. I could keep going but the bottom line is that in my opinion Sekiro was a piece of art that was created with a lot of care and thought and shouldn't be compared to the half heartedly formulaic creations that were DS2 and DS3. (Even tho I like both those game as well cuz I like the formula) Its just a difference in opinion. Have a great day
Yahts is the one guy who can say prototype dark souls and not get fanboys (who complain that the new game looks different) trying to kill him with an axe
I am also someone who missed my chance to play Demon's Soul's when it came out so the remaster was my first experience of it. Honestly, I think calling it the "Pre-Dark Souls" game is really selling the game short! It has a few unique quirks that I think really sell it, and in some cases I wish that FROM would go back to its more "Let's so what we want!" mindset. Theres a greater emphasis on exploiting enemy weaknesses, more poignant boss fights, a more consistent world (when Dark Souls would just shrug its hands at some parts of the timeline of events) and more risks in the design. It's the antithesis of Bloodborne where I felt that FROM was just going through the motions, not to say that its a bad game, it isn't at all, it just feels more committee designed when compared to Demon's Souls.
Even as new Soulsborne games come out from From and other devs, the original 5 that the term is referencing hold a special place in my heart because of how none of them are really the same thing. Despite extreme similarities in core game mechanics, they each tackle the gameplay loop and world design in slightly different ways, for better or worse you certainly couldn’t get any one of them confused with another. Taking Dark Souls as the baseline, Demon’s Souls is more prototypical, oddly linear with a hub world design. Dark Souls 2 is less consistent as a world and has a ton of ‘cheaper’ ways to die, Bloodborne is fast-paced and uses guns instead of shields, and Dark Souls 3 takes that gameplay and ports it back into medieval fantasy. Altogether the five feel like the “complete package” to me even as new games come up with further refinements or interpretations on the core formula.
@@shaesullivan listen, I am a big SoulsBorne fan, I get it, I liked playing through Demon's Souls, but he brought up some good points about how it was a bit like a "Dark Souls we got at home" meme, in that it was a much less refined version of the experience. It wouldn't be something I'd hold against the original, but since the remaster came out so much later, I'd expected that they would rework a bit more than just the graphics. But all in all, I still liked it, even if it's through all the bias in the world
oh, nick thank you for your sacrifice to get yahtz a ps5. We really appreciate your generous patronage to local mob bosses in the escapist magazine area. But you better regrow your organs soon enough for the next x box console so he can review those exclusives on time!
I dunno, not only has he breathlessly talked about how he'd marry Silent Hill 2, but I'm pretty sure he'd get into bed with Saint's Row 2 as well. He's actually got a couple of games he likes to harp on about
That comment at 1:50 really caught me off guard, mainly because I have said thing mentioned. But I dont walk funny at all, so I'm not sure where he got ths idea from. Maybe I just dont have it that severely.
As someone who loves Demon's Souls... you hit the nail on the head with this one. Well, I'm off to go look at a VERY engaging model railway set with my 4 yo son.
I remember the hub Castle format in the Legacy of Kain games. Although, you wouldn't be able to get to other "spokes of the wheel" until you unlocked certain abilities.
One thing that I think is an interesting mechanic is earning the ability to level up your character. While it can be frustrating while you are learning the game controls and combat; but you gain knowledge about shortcuts, stage hazards, enemy attack patterns, etc. that might be missed if you could just level up and rush through the levels. I'm not sure if I like or dislike the whole purity vs corruption element where the levels will be different depending on how often you die in human form in that area. It rewards players for killing bosses without dying, but the rewards seem like they would be not as valuable to someone who is already good enough at the game.
I actually really appreciate the analogy of being interested in what's beneath the hood of the game :D I think Demon's Souls is, like you said, best played either as your very first souls game (like it was for most of us) or AFTER you've exhausted all the other souls games :)
Yahtzee insulting Stockpile Thomas hurt me, even if it was just a joke. ;w; The man lost everything, even his wife and daughter, and feels too weak to go out and do anything beyond the Nexus. So he does all he can within it to aid you.
@@Dasgath Him running could be attributed to his uselessness. Also, why did his soul get trapped in the Nexus, but his family didn't? You meet Yuria the Witch (who's friendly, by the way) and not only do you not kill her but she eventually comes back to the Nexus, right? So witches aren't inherently evil.
It's implied his wife/daughter was a witch due to one of the corpses having the same armor set as Yuria, but without the hat. He's not trapped in the nexus, he's hiding because it's the only safe place currently.
3:40 That *was* the fix. In the original you had to travel back to Stockpile Thomas every time you became overloaded, and had to leave excess inventory lying on the ground. It was... not a great idea.
Man you are in for a TREAT if you just found Yahtzee now, spoken as another old fan of the Chzo Mythos :D checkout all his newer games too, he never stopped making them on the side
You’re HALF right about True King Allant. There is a narrative purpose to how pathetic he is as an opponent, but it’s not quite what you said it was here. Basically, it’s meant to show how far down he fell. Where his power grab got him. He awoke the Old One, he unleashed the demon hordes, and he reaped the benefits. But by killing every single Archdemon, including the one made in his image, his body basically deteriorated into a glorified slug. If anything I think it’s incredibly cathartic to come face to face with the bastard that tried so hard to end the world, and watch him flounder about trying to fight back as he babbles on and on about some nihilistic nonsense, before crushing him with literally zero effort. Honestly, if I could spare him I would. It’d be a crueler fate for him to have to live like that. But if I have to kill him, yknow what, I’ll take it.
Interesting, My first From Software game that I finished was Sekiro then I played the Demon's Souls remake and REALLY loved it, but I can't seem to get into Dark Souls no matter how much I try.....
I think matthewmatosis makes an interesting case for Demon's Souls being the best in the series. It's pretty in depth and you may enjoy watching it since I feel he explains in a way similar to how you do the podcast.
I want to play the Remake, I played the original back in '09 so I was there for the beginning of it all with Souls so this is straight up a wish come true for me as Demon's Souls really needed a remake for those that loved it back then and those that missed out on it. Now they can remake Dark Souls and hopefully Dark Souls 2 cause the latter really fucking needs it.
Dark Souls 3's DLC, The Ringed City uses the Old Monk's mechanic of using an online Invader as it's boss and then we got Stormruler fight...which is an easier version of Yhorm the GIant.
Well, that's some much (eh) needed closure. That's about how I expected you to feel about it. I put Demon's Souls down I think twice before I gave it one last try and got really into it.
Yeah the Latria final boss fight would definitely be lame if you get the NPC one but what’s cool about that boss fight is that it can be another player. And you can hang out in that chamber as an invader and be that boss for another player, which is a really cool idea.
I haven't played the PS5 remake and I am very sceptical about it, but the thing that the OG DeS does better than any other Souls game is atmosphere. Its story is also the most tragic. When you said it's less cohesive than Dark Souls, well, yeah I can tell that by the trailers. But that's an issue with the remake. I assuming you're talking about how many graphical details don't add up, such as the Old Monk's headpiece which looks like a mushroom now but is supposed to look like a cup that's consuming souls. Or the Vanguard Demon who has an iron band around his wrist now which makes no sense with the lore. He's a teleporting demon made of Fog, how the hell did they manage to lock him up, right? Or the fact that Boletaria Castle looks like it has been abandoned for 1000s of years despite the fact that this doesn't add up with the timeline of DeS. And this is just what I've noticed from the trailers, I dread to think what I'd see in the full game. I do wonder how many people this affects but for lore hunters and fans of the atmosphere this is venturing in to deal breaker territory. It just doesn't meet the standard that Souls games set.
IIRC, Demon Souls was a copyright protected title, and they were desperate to name it as closely as possible, so they slapped the 's on the end of Demon to dodge copyrights. Sadly, Dark Souls never got that kind of title effort, and they completely changed it every time something wasn't right. (Though that was probably better, since Dark Ring gave the wrong message)
So now Yahtzee obliviously need to play the King's Field Series i.e. the game series, made by From Software, that Demons souls was a spiritual successor to.
Did you not know you could send to storage from anywhere? Kinda makes it like having unlimited inventory, though to receive you have to go back. But at least mitigates carrying too much
i am just happy that i can finally say i got a plat on demon's souls, because for over a decade , with plats for all the souls games, this was the one that eluded me, and now i am happy to say i platinumed it along with all dark souls games, bloodborne and sekiro , and it is the best bloody game on ps5.
You think the limited carry weight is bad now, in the original there was no option to send stuff back to your storage so if you found something good but had no room it was gone forever
I understand Yahtzee's points but I actually prefer Demon's to Dark Souls. Yes, there are some gameplay elements that were improved later such as the crafting, the interconnected world and the farming of health items but I personally feel that the bosses, the atmosphere and specially the story of Demon's is much more satisfying.
What makes Demon's Souls stick out to this day is the level design. Without an estus system holding you back, From designed longer linear levels with big distances between the checkpoints. I think the reason the levels are beloved by fans to this day are not just atmosphere but also the increased tension you feel playing them for a long time with no means of saving your souls.
Why does everyone forget about the ring that makes it so you are only down 25% health in ghost form? If you wear that ring and lvl your HP a lot then ghost form barely matters. Lvling HP/End and using an elemental weapon to compensate for low str/dex is OP as usual
I tried playing demons souls on the PS3, and ended up getting soft locked on my save. Or rather, I didn't want to grind anymore. I got about halfway through and at that point my weapon just wasn't dealing enough damage to do anything, after some googling I learned how damn important buying new gear and upgrading it was to the game, and at a certain point it cost so...God damn much to do anything. The point where I gave up was when I'd killed 2 bosses, still didn't have enough for the next upgrade (we're talking 10s of thousands of souls, that you can only get once) and I died twice, losing all of them. At that point I could not be fucked enough to grind the skeletons at 4-1 for hours to try and get enough souls for an upgrade that'd let me do slightly more than chip damage to the next boss.
@@soulssurvivor3455 maybe I'm thinking levels. I'm not sure. Its been like 5 years since I played demons souls. It's hard to remember the exact details. I just remember what made me stop, and that was needing a TON of souls because I could do no damage to any of the bosses I could reach at that point (I mean like each attack did slivers of damage, less than a cm off the healthbar. I remember spending 30 minutes dodging and chipping endlessly on one fight, messed up once because my hand was sweaty and dying with the boss having more than half health). Losing all the souls I collected with the only means of getting more being grinding the skeletons...yeah, that was my stopping point.
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Still no Hellpoint? :(
Risk of Rain 2 please? Pretty please?
I hope this series goes on for as long as Yahtzee enjoys it.
Nick is the true hero for his organ sacrifice.
But where did he get it from? I think he committed a unforgivable sin. I think he bought it from scalpers.
I think he deserves to loose his remaining organs for this.
He should have just.... Nicked it 😎
@@maelthrajaluk42 YEEEEEAH!!!!!’
@@Enchie to break the joke, someone who pre ordered two by accident sold the second one to them at a normal price
@@azzzanadra
Good. I'm happy to hear that. Maybe not about how hard it is to get a refund for pre-orders.
I love the call back to him saying Demon' *s* Souls
It was funny how he dislike Demon Souls at first then he tough it out through Dark Souls and like the series of it.
@@leowei771 Demon's Souls*
You could say then that Demon's souls is the hardest souls game, cause it took yahtzee 10 years to beat it.
Demon's souls was indeed, the Dark Souls of the souls games.
Your logic is logical.
personally I found it the easiest lol.
@@ramen3643 that's what I've heard from a lot of people. Which is disappointing, but not a deal breaker.
dark souls is the dark souls of dark souls
This is the first time I'm commenting about something like this, but the picture of Hideo Kojima throwing up his hands and, with a completely flat face, proclaiming "piss grenades" made me laugh out loud, and now it does every time I think of it again
I know, sometimes it's the weird shit that gets you, like in his RE... 4? 5? (can't remember) review where he says something with a plain still of himself in his desk, then to elaborate, says "allow me to expand" and the figure of himself suddenly switches to a fat version; One slight comedic pause later, this is still my top joke from ZP. It's so stupid, I know, but that's what makes it funny.
@@luigivercotti6410 Devil may cry 4 review.
I might rewatch his videos a little too much.
Death Stranding 2 new gameplay mechanic confirmed.
@@KeithFraser82 Death Stranding does contain piss grenades. XD
Death Stranding already has this, and in a weird coincidence, so does Team Fortress 2
Agreed that is an interesting trip for us Souls lovers, but I finally get to hear the maiden say "touch the demon inside me" in HD and that's all that matters
"Soul of the mind key to life ether. Soul of the lost withdrawn from it's vessel. Let strength be grant, so the world might be mended, So the world might be mended." Kinda does it for me.
So is the hardest part of the game finding a clean interpretation of that line?
Maiden in Black has been painted white by the net once more.
Nobody tell Yahtzee that klicking a button to send stuff to Thomas IS the improved system
The Penetrator, The Pursuer, The Dancer... Basically if a boss has a verb for a name better get ready for an ass-whooping even more brutal than the usual. -The Commentator
Yeahs that's true. Lothric and Lorian, The twin princes are a great example of this. Screw those 2
Except you can parry The Pursuer and use a balista to kill him, parry him and beat him to death, or summon. And The Dancer is super weak to dark damage, meaning the dark hand you can get shortly after beating Vordt (Meet Yoel on the bridge before the Undead Settlement, extract true strength, then suicide until you can no longer extract true strength. Then just fast travel to the shrine from the shrine and buy the dark hand from Yuria right away.) can be used to beat her easily. You can also wait and use a dark infused lothric longsword, or summon.
@@silenceundying you can also cast bleed spells and kite the dancer.
@@Minastir1 I never knew that. So you can use bleed on her as well as dark?
@@silenceundying Also the Penetrator is one of the easier bosses in Demon’s Souls.
I wonder if anyone informed good, ol' Yahtz that OG Demon's souls didn't have *send to the bank* option so if your inventory was full you had to tap dance your way back to the hub.
To be fair he was advocating for taking the problem out entirely. Yeah stockpile Thomas would've been jobless bit it would've been way more convenient.
@@ForeverLaxx There's definitely the argument for keeping it as originally designed though. The convenience of just sending them back helps a lot over the original without changing the overall experience of it.
@@DWFTW But what if they just made the experience better instead? They're already changing it, and obviously it's not going to be exactly the same anyway, may as well go the extra mile and make a change that would be approved by almost everyone who isn't a strict purist.
@@ForeverLaxx The problem in Demon's Souls on PS3 was never that you could only carry a limited amount of items. The problem was that if you tried to pick an item up, but it exceeded your item burden, then it would automatically be dropped on the ground and would permanently be lost if you entered a loading screen. And since the only way to offload gear was to visit Stockpile Thomas in the Nexus _through a loading screen_ you would always lose items. That is why they made the change that they did.
For the first time since seeing it in 2009 I realize that this game is not in fact called Demon Souls
How have I listened to your horrifying similes for over 10 years, but some how the dog turd tree is one of the most unsettling
I found it oddly wholesome, meself
@@isodoubIet sure, not his most impressive, but somehow the image of it really happening/existing was particularly surreal and gross.
I think "boxcar full of human skin" is still my favorite though
Strictly it's a metaphor of course
nothing will ever trump "... I'd rather swallow razor wire, pull the end out of my arse, and floss myself to death".
Yes, I know it's not a simile, but I don't care
"Ass as far the eye can see" "about as likable as deep-sea anglerfish wearing an SS uniform"
I half-expected him to say something like "Demon'sssSsssouls--oh fuck it, I'll just call it Steve from now"
Or Splappy Boom Blappy
@@zuzanakomprdova9502 a true classic
Oddly enough, upon reading that I heard a very demonic, slithery/snake like Yahtzee voice say it. Instead of the stuttering "S"s
@@origrammar Indeed, although I can't remember for the life of me which game was that
@@zuzanakomprdova9502 Silent Hill The Room?
For some reason "Fear the old quack" just broke me.
Duckborne
@@ivanmasura2371 I would buy the shit out of that game.
@@101Crock
Untitled goose souls.
@@doublem1354 Now you're pushing it.
We are born of the quack, made ducks by the quack, undone by the quack....our eyes are yet to open.....Fear the Old Quack.
"It's like Super Mario 64 if Princess Peach had her eyes waxed shut."
Just calling attention to that hysterical comparison.
Thanks for selling all your organs Nick!
I feel a little light-headed, but I think I'll make it...
@@theescapist bah, you don't need the liver, you'll be fine.
@@espio87 agreed. Nick's not a games journalist anymore, so he doesn't need to drink as much.
Then again, he does need to deal with Jack
@@faustlican5566 Tell that to all the Twitter trolls that think I'm still a traditional games journalist lol. They make me want to drink even more.
@@theescapist I would like a refund on your left kidney.
"JESUS CHRIST, WHY DID THEY CALL IT THAT!?" must be the official sub-title
Its specifically named that as an ode to the game lore. There is in fact a good reason.
I always just figured it was because you get Soul's, from multiple Demon's (;
Sounds like an appropriate subreddit name
@@jb0258 roughly speaking it's because the souls already belong to a demon by the time you arrive. But also you are a "demon"...
@@Makszi Yes, but "demon-ses-souls" is impossibly irritating to speak aloud. They should have gone for something else.
Reminds me of Dunkey's: "... And with that, I'm cheating." when dealing with the half health mechanic.
Tbh I just like how much respect Yahtzee has for persona now
1:20 This is a very strange detail for me to notice. When Yahtzee gets asked the first question by the imp, he smiles. But when he gets asked the follow-up question, he has a slightly bigger smile. Nice little dig at Demon's Souls there.
When you realize that Yahtzee might be living that last joke in a couple years
It's like he's mentally preparing himself.
Something tells me after several of these model railway references that Yahtzee's dad is a model train nerd.
Someone must have friends in high places. I've had enough funds to buy multiple PS5s since before launch, I just can't find the bloody things anywhere!
Pretty sure Nick paid for an Ocean's Eleven-like heist to steal one from a scalper probably.
@@pedropradacarciofi2517 no
The only way to catch them now is to honestly stay up really late and get them as soon as a stock drops. I followed a few subreddits and twitter users who would funnel news about stock drops and stayed up till midnight refreshing the same website, but my patience paid off and I got one!
@@ForeverLaxx Like that guy who bought all the water in his village and started selling it at outrageous prices, he got killed by a mob.
In the civilized world that wouldnt happen of couse, since there are laws and stuff. So you may need to hire an assasin for that.
What were we talking about?
@@Dasgath I feel like this entire thread could be solved by incredibly rich companies not artificially limiting stock on items to artificially inflate demand, as if they couldn't easily afford to produce according to the demand rather than a production model designed to make sure the most favorable voices get heard first and loudest.
"The Penetrator" is Yahtzee's name on BDSM nights at the Croshaw household.
Were you there too?
@@dustinp120 Yeah, his role was called "The penetrated"
@@skyguy675 if your doing it right everyone's a lil bit of everything and leaves with at least 1 regret 😉.
Bet kess is really enjoying it...
@@skyguy675 I set myself up for that.
I didnt know this would be the first time Yahtz actually played Demon's Souls start to end
I just always assumed he might've gone back to play it on the PS3 after falling in love with Dark Souls
He’s not really much of a fan. Dark Souls is the only FromSoftware game he really liked.
@@psychomantis183 He loves Bloodbourne too but I agree with you
The only reason he started liking dark souls is because everyone pestered him to stick with it until he understood why it was good 😂
Even though I agree with Yahtzee when he says DS2 and DS3 werent as good, I feel like he never gave Sekiro enough chance to see the beauty in it.
@@aqueelkadri8371 He honestly isn't that into Bloodborne compared to Dark Souls 1 either.
@@aqueelkadri8371 Sekiro has a lot less good in it than Dark Souls 1 and is closer DS2 and 3 in terms of quality.
@@ZodiacEntertainment2 Well that is your opinion.
To me Sekiro has the deepest gameplay mechanics (iceberg levels of deep) which is unmatched compared to any of the other FromSoftware titles whereas the other games feel expansive horizontally.
Sekiro feels more stylish when mastered than titles that claim to be stylish combat games like the Devil May Cry and Bayonetta. It has more replayability just in terms of sheer fun that you can have with the mechanics of the game.
I could keep going but the bottom line is that in my opinion Sekiro was a piece of art that was created with a lot of care and thought and shouldn't be compared to the half heartedly formulaic creations that were DS2 and DS3. (Even tho I like both those game as well cuz I like the formula)
Its just a difference in opinion. Have a great day
Yahts is the one guy who can say prototype dark souls and not get fanboys (who complain that the new game looks different) trying to kill him with an axe
"A tale that's different from the rest: the thread unfurls against the clocks.
The one the Speaker loved the best must have a perfect paradox."
props to nick for taking one for the team like a true editor should
I am also someone who missed my chance to play Demon's Soul's when it came out so the remaster was my first experience of it. Honestly, I think calling it the "Pre-Dark Souls" game is really selling the game short! It has a few unique quirks that I think really sell it, and in some cases I wish that FROM would go back to its more "Let's so what we want!" mindset. Theres a greater emphasis on exploiting enemy weaknesses, more poignant boss fights, a more consistent world (when Dark Souls would just shrug its hands at some parts of the timeline of events) and more risks in the design.
It's the antithesis of Bloodborne where I felt that FROM was just going through the motions, not to say that its a bad game, it isn't at all, it just feels more committee designed when compared to Demon's Souls.
Even as new Soulsborne games come out from From and other devs, the original 5 that the term is referencing hold a special place in my heart because of how none of them are really the same thing. Despite extreme similarities in core game mechanics, they each tackle the gameplay loop and world design in slightly different ways, for better or worse you certainly couldn’t get any one of them confused with another.
Taking Dark Souls as the baseline, Demon’s Souls is more prototypical, oddly linear with a hub world design. Dark Souls 2 is less consistent as a world and has a ton of ‘cheaper’ ways to die, Bloodborne is fast-paced and uses guns instead of shields, and Dark Souls 3 takes that gameplay and ports it back into medieval fantasy. Altogether the five feel like the “complete package” to me even as new games come up with further refinements or interpretations on the core formula.
Latria really does feel like the best area in the game. The art really shines and the atmosphere is just great
Tl;dr "I liked it, but I feel like I shouldn't have"
Seems accurate
He finished it: That alone is worthy of a recommendation.
@@shaesullivan listen, I am a big SoulsBorne fan, I get it, I liked playing through Demon's Souls, but he brought up some good points about how it was a bit like a "Dark Souls we got at home" meme, in that it was a much less refined version of the experience. It wouldn't be something I'd hold against the original, but since the remaster came out so much later, I'd expected that they would rework a bit more than just the graphics.
But all in all, I still liked it, even if it's through all the bias in the world
"I liked it, but Dark Souls is obviously better" is a better tl;dr
Nice to see Yatzhee finally got to the new demon souls.
All just to hear him say "Hey remember that game I didn't like very much? Well now I like it a lot more and yet I still don't like it very much"
Demon's souls
oh, nick thank you for your sacrifice to get yahtz a ps5. We really appreciate your generous patronage to local mob bosses in the escapist magazine area. But you better regrow your organs soon enough for the next x box console so he can review those exclusives on time!
Ha, he doesn't want the Xbox so I'll just have to sacrifice whatever I have left over for the RTX 30 cards.
2:26 an accurate description given that's how the boss invasion thing works
This may be the biggest fangasm we'll ever see from Yahtzee.
Oh have you not seen his Silent Hill reviews where he mentions 2?
Portal 1 is the game he, to this day, has absolutely *zero* complaints about.
Edit: I didn't realize I made a sort of pun with bolding the word zero.
I dunno, not only has he breathlessly talked about how he'd marry Silent Hill 2, but I'm pretty sure he'd get into bed with Saint's Row 2 as well. He's actually got a couple of games he likes to harp on about
I found the original version be most relaxing of the souls games. Propably why I've replayd it the most.
That comment at 1:50 really caught me off guard, mainly because I have said thing mentioned. But I dont walk funny at all, so I'm not sure where he got ths idea from. Maybe I just dont have it that severely.
This is the most positive ZP review I've seen since Obra Dinn
As someone who loves Demon's Souls... you hit the nail on the head with this one. Well, I'm off to go look at a VERY engaging model railway set with my 4 yo son.
I remember the hub Castle format in the Legacy of Kain games. Although, you wouldn't be able to get to other "spokes of the wheel" until you unlocked certain abilities.
Think this clears it up that yes, he plays it offline. Monk will give anyone heartburn.
The thing I like the most about demons souls is the boss and enemy design, I love how unique some of them are, the storm king in particular is badass
One thing that I think is an interesting mechanic is earning the ability to level up your character. While it can be frustrating while you are learning the game controls and combat; but you gain knowledge about shortcuts, stage hazards, enemy attack patterns, etc. that might be missed if you could just level up and rush through the levels. I'm not sure if I like or dislike the whole purity vs corruption element where the levels will be different depending on how often you die in human form in that area. It rewards players for killing bosses without dying, but the rewards seem like they would be not as valuable to someone who is already good enough at the game.
The initial Demon's Souls runs flawlessly at 4k 60 on an emulator on pc
"Apostrophe and plural in the same sentence?! I totally dominated the English language!"
Zero Punctuation black metal track of the week:
*Goad The Penetrator* by *Eyes Waxed Shut*
Hope Nick doesn't mind that he had one of his legs knicked.
I actually really appreciate the analogy of being interested in what's beneath the hood of the game :D I think Demon's Souls is, like you said, best played either as your very first souls game (like it was for most of us) or AFTER you've exhausted all the other souls games :)
Yahtzee insulting Stockpile Thomas hurt me, even if it was just a joke. ;w;
The man lost everything, even his wife and daughter, and feels too weak to go out and do anything beyond the Nexus. So he does all he can within it to aid you.
He ran away, he deserves it. Also, they may be witches? Somebody fact check that please.
@@Dasgath Him running could be attributed to his uselessness. Also, why did his soul get trapped in the Nexus, but his family didn't?
You meet Yuria the Witch (who's friendly, by the way) and not only do you not kill her but she eventually comes back to the Nexus, right? So witches aren't inherently evil.
It's implied his wife/daughter was a witch due to one of the corpses having the same armor set as Yuria, but without the hat. He's not trapped in the nexus, he's hiding because it's the only safe place currently.
RIP Zero Punctuation. Yahtzee was too good for the Escapist, and I'm glad he's finally free.
That ending reminded me Yahtz has a kid now, I wonder how they're going to develop.
This is it folks: we've come full circle.
3:40 That *was* the fix. In the original you had to travel back to Stockpile Thomas every time you became overloaded, and had to leave excess inventory lying on the ground. It was... not a great idea.
4:25 - I just have this mental picture of Yatz rounding up the imps when he has to do another video xD
The same Yahtzee that created the Chzo Mythos series? I fucking love your games, instant sub. Great vid also, will watch more of these.
If you got to his personal channel, he has a series where he played through the entire series with his friend
Man you are in for a TREAT if you just found Yahtzee now, spoken as another old fan of the Chzo Mythos :D checkout all his newer games too, he never stopped making them on the side
1:49 I like how he intentionally manipulated the sizes.
"Evil footwear companies that want you to grind out your shoes"
The HHGTTG Secondary Phase reference was a surprise, but a welcome one
My dad was the one bored at model railroad museums, I was super excited!
I appreciate the throwing shade on Jack Packard by showing his face as you say "chasing the latest trends."
Rip editor. His origens have made the ultimate sacrifice.
You’re HALF right about True King Allant.
There is a narrative purpose to how pathetic he is as an opponent, but it’s not quite what you said it was here.
Basically, it’s meant to show how far down he fell. Where his power grab got him. He awoke the Old One, he unleashed the demon hordes, and he reaped the benefits. But by killing every single Archdemon, including the one made in his image, his body basically deteriorated into a glorified slug.
If anything I think it’s incredibly cathartic to come face to face with the bastard that tried so hard to end the world, and watch him flounder about trying to fight back as he babbles on and on about some nihilistic nonsense, before crushing him with literally zero effort. Honestly, if I could spare him I would. It’d be a crueler fate for him to have to live like that. But if I have to kill him, yknow what, I’ll take it.
Finally a peasant like me may watch this vid
Interesting, My first From Software game that I finished was Sekiro then I played the Demon's Souls remake and REALLY loved it, but I can't seem to get into Dark Souls no matter how much I try.....
I think matthewmatosis makes an interesting case for Demon's Souls being the best in the series. It's pretty in depth and you may enjoy watching it since I feel he explains in a way similar to how you do the podcast.
I want to play the Remake, I played the original back in '09 so I was there for the beginning of it all with Souls so this is straight up a wish come true for me as Demon's Souls really needed a remake for those that loved it back then and those that missed out on it. Now they can remake Dark Souls and hopefully Dark Souls 2 cause the latter really fucking needs it.
1:09 Now I’m imagining Demon’s Souls singing “What’d I miss” from Hamilton and being all smug.
One of the many things I learn from Yahtzee are the names of candy not well known in the US that I now must try.
Dark Souls 3's DLC, The Ringed City uses the Old Monk's mechanic of using an online Invader as it's boss and then we got Stormruler fight...which is an easier version of Yhorm the GIant.
Well, that's some much (eh) needed closure. That's about how I expected you to feel about it. I put Demon's Souls down I think twice before I gave it one last try and got really into it.
1:55 this one got me haha "Touch me!"
whats that opening music? When yahtzee is advertizing the youtube membership stuff?
5:30 Hey, I'm interested in model railroad museums, and I'm not even thirty or a dad! Great review btw.
Yeah the Latria final boss fight would definitely be lame if you get the NPC one but what’s cool about that boss fight is that it can be another player. And you can hang out in that chamber as an invader and be that boss for another player, which is a really cool idea.
I haven't played the PS5 remake and I am very sceptical about it, but the thing that the OG DeS does better than any other Souls game is atmosphere. Its story is also the most tragic. When you said it's less cohesive than Dark Souls, well, yeah I can tell that by the trailers. But that's an issue with the remake. I assuming you're talking about how many graphical details don't add up, such as the Old Monk's headpiece which looks like a mushroom now but is supposed to look like a cup that's consuming souls. Or the Vanguard Demon who has an iron band around his wrist now which makes no sense with the lore. He's a teleporting demon made of Fog, how the hell did they manage to lock him up, right? Or the fact that Boletaria Castle looks like it has been abandoned for 1000s of years despite the fact that this doesn't add up with the timeline of DeS. And this is just what I've noticed from the trailers, I dread to think what I'd see in the full game. I do wonder how many people this affects but for lore hunters and fans of the atmosphere this is venturing in to deal breaker territory. It just doesn't meet the standard that Souls games set.
IIRC, Demon Souls was a copyright protected title, and they were desperate to name it as closely as possible, so they slapped the 's on the end of Demon to dodge copyrights. Sadly, Dark Souls never got that kind of title effort, and they completely changed it every time something wasn't right. (Though that was probably better, since Dark Ring gave the wrong message)
So now Yahtzee obliviously need to play the King's Field Series
i.e. the game series, made by From Software, that Demons souls was a spiritual successor to.
The "kitten in a blender" line may be the point at which Zero Punctuation finally peaked after all these years.
Caused me to lose my goddamn sides.
The director of Demon's Souls was hot off of making a game called "Armored Core For Answer", so I think Demon's Souls got off light.
Did you not know you could send to storage from anywhere? Kinda makes it like having unlimited inventory, though to receive you have to go back. But at least mitigates carrying too much
He knows, but he dislikes the need for an additional button press to do it; he would've preferred the items automatically being sent to storage.
i am just happy that i can finally say i got a plat on demon's souls, because for over a decade , with plats for all the souls games, this was the one that eluded me, and now i am happy to say i platinumed it along with all dark souls games, bloodborne and sekiro , and it is the best bloody game on ps5.
I'm curious about his extended opinion of Persona 4 since he said he went back to it
Not sure if he actually reviewed the steam release or talked about it in another one.
FINALLY I got around to subscribing to the membership lol
That reminds me, what was the latest Armoured Core game?
Was it good?
Is it even on PS4?
My biggest issue with the game is that the lady who upgrades you becomes the door to the final boss, I wanted to do more things before finishing
Gosh these are good. This series alone has made me want to try Dark Souls 👍
Dew it
Community: wondering how Yahtzee felt about Demon's Souls remake...
Yahtzee: Yes.
You think the limited carry weight is bad now, in the original there was no option to send stuff back to your storage so if you found something good but had no room it was gone forever
why was i expecting the last phrase to be followed up by "oh come now Daniel" ?
Jesus Yaht really loved Persona huh? Who would've thought
He really likes Persona 5.
Persona 4 he's more ambivalent.
I have to admit I like the Personas despite not liking JRPGs in general too.
I understand Yahtzee's points but I actually prefer Demon's to Dark Souls. Yes, there are some gameplay elements that were improved later such as the crafting, the interconnected world and the farming of health items but I personally feel that the bosses, the atmosphere and specially the story of Demon's is much more satisfying.
To this day, Yahtzee is still doing Gods work by reminding everyone Ride to Hell was a failure in every possible way. We must never forget.
I mean, you could perhaps say, Ride to Hell Retribution is uniquely the most successful failure that ever was.
What makes Demon's Souls stick out to this day is the level design. Without an estus system holding you back, From designed longer linear levels with big distances between the checkpoints. I think the reason the levels are beloved by fans to this day are not just atmosphere but also the increased tension you feel playing them for a long time with no means of saving your souls.
Being a Soul’s fan Yahtzee, did you ever try your hand at the King’s Field game on the PS1?
It has happened. Yahtzee has been doing Zero Punctuation for so long that he now remastered his old reviews.
@@Potidaon That was more an april fool's joke backfiring
Demon's Souls is my favourite From game. It's lovely
1:40 "Jesus Christ, why did they call it that?!"
I have a feeling that this line wasn't scripted. Lol
I beat demon's souls for the first time last week on RPCS3 and I actually loved it more than dark Souls?
congratulations upon obtaining a taste🎉
Why does everyone forget about the ring that makes it so you are only down 25% health in ghost form? If you wear that ring and lvl your HP a lot then ghost form barely matters. Lvling HP/End and using an elemental weapon to compensate for low str/dex is OP as usual
Honestly, i was hoping you'd just re-upload the original Demon's souls review in 4k. I think that perfectly reflects the remake
I tried playing demons souls on the PS3, and ended up getting soft locked on my save. Or rather, I didn't want to grind anymore. I got about halfway through and at that point my weapon just wasn't dealing enough damage to do anything, after some googling I learned how damn important buying new gear and upgrading it was to the game, and at a certain point it cost so...God damn much to do anything. The point where I gave up was when I'd killed 2 bosses, still didn't have enough for the next upgrade (we're talking 10s of thousands of souls, that you can only get once) and I died twice, losing all of them. At that point I could not be fucked enough to grind the skeletons at 4-1 for hours to try and get enough souls for an upgrade that'd let me do slightly more than chip damage to the next boss.
I don't remember upgrades costing that many souls for your equipment unless its like soulbrandt or some shit. Levels yes but not gear upgrades.
@@soulssurvivor3455 maybe I'm thinking levels. I'm not sure. Its been like 5 years since I played demons souls. It's hard to remember the exact details. I just remember what made me stop, and that was needing a TON of souls because I could do no damage to any of the bosses I could reach at that point (I mean like each attack did slivers of damage, less than a cm off the healthbar. I remember spending 30 minutes dodging and chipping endlessly on one fight, messed up once because my hand was sweaty and dying with the boss having more than half health). Losing all the souls I collected with the only means of getting more being grinding the skeletons...yeah, that was my stopping point.
FromSoft game walkthrough:
Kill the dog first.
Circle right (unless circle left)