Redrafting the 1988 NHL Entry Draft
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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Great video, but would have taken Selanne #1
That draft was quite insane
One of the better ones. 2015 is still in it's own class though.
@@dorka756 nah this is better
@@dorka756 Bah 2015 has lots of drafts... Including McDavid who will never live up to his expectations and win a cup- this year is the closest he will ever get to winning a cup!!
@v4v819 man wouldn't that be something if he actually never did get one.... wow 😢 😅 😮
I would take Selanne over Modano and maybe Amonte over Linden.
Where's Daniel Dore? He was Drafted 5th and had impressive career with 17 games and 5 points
Fun draft year! My list:
1. Teemu Selanne - Really hard to ignore 684 goals and his amazing performance in his later years.
2. Mark Recchi - Insanely long career and was good at advanced age. Also scored 110+points twice.
3. Mike Modano - Best Dallas Star of all-time and one of the greatest American players of all-time.
4. Rod Brind'Amour - Not only had solid offense, but ended up winning two Selke trophies later on with the Hurricanes.
5. Jeremy Roenick - Scored 50+ goals twice and 20+ goals thirteen times.
6. Rob Blake - Won the Norris in 1997-98 and finished third in two other seasons.
7. Alex Mogilny - Insane 1992-93 season with 76 goals in 77 games. Also one of two Canucks to score 50+ goals in a season.
8. Tony Amonte - Eight seasons of 30+ goals, six of them in a row.
9. Trevor Linden - "Captain Canuck" was a beloved leader in Vancouver for many years and scored 30+ goals six times.
10. Dmitri Khristich - Steady top six forward for about 10 years. One of Ukraine's all-time best players.
11. Martin Gelinas - Known for scoring goals at clutch moments, Gelinas played well for many teams throughout his career.
12. Joe Juneau - One of the best teenagers in NHL history, Juneau cooled off after that, but still had a respectable career.
13. Bret Hedican - Long career as a steady defenseman for over 1000 games.
14. Valeri Kamensky - Didn't get as much attention on a star-studded Avalanche team, but could score a point-per-game at his best during the dead puck era.
15. Sean Hill - Long, albeit injury-plagued career. Hill provided surprising offense from the blue line even into his 30s.
16. Tie Domi - One of the most well-known fighters of his time, Domi amassed 3515 PIM. He also scored 20+ points five times.
17. Stephane Fiset - The best netminder of the 1988 draft, Fiset was a solid goalie for the Kings for several years in the later 90s and early 00s.
18. Keith Carney - Almost the definition of a journeyman defenseman, Keith Carney was a reliable defender for many years, playing over 1000 games.
19. Curtis Leschyshyn - Another long career for a solidly-built defender that lasted over 1000 games.
20. Marty McInnis - Career ended earlier than most, but McInnis was a solid middle six forward for several teams in the 90s and early 00s.
21. Steve Heize - Heinze 57 (he would wear 57 later in his career) played mostly a third line role, but did have some scoring, potting 20+ goals three times.
Other names: Claude Lapointe, Keith Jones
Brind'Amour had a home in Philly on the Legion of Doom line.
The era that got me into NHL hockey.... star studded for sure, Alexander Mogilny was always my favorite player. That guy should absolutely be in the hall of , I have so many of his hockey cards.
Mogilny, Federov, and Bure were on the same line back in russia. Wpuld have been an absolute slaughter to a defense and goalie.
Selänne should definitely have been taken over Modano here. Selänne scored more goals and more points in less games than Modano did. Both also won one Stanley Cup. Selänne also has a much more formiddable international career. Selänne had more 100+ point seasons than Modano did.
So yeah, Selänne being the number 1 pick here should have been a clear choice.
I think it's because modano had such a massive impact on hockey in the south
It's in every sports drafts, guys look great in junior or university, then tank when they actually get to the big show. Worse are, if they're overhyped, then it even looks worse. It happens a lot, that's life.
Curtis Lespellcheck
Linden carried the Canuck in much of the 94 playoffs. Game 7, he WAS the canucks.
No duh. He was on their team. Ofc he was a Canuck
Growing up in Medicine Hat I watched Trevor Linden all thru junior ... always knew he was gonna be a solid NHLer
@@jonah.donohue Whoosh
He is one of the most iconic Canucks of all time, but it's interesting to imagine what could have been with Selanne and Bure on the same team
@@rockybalboa1847 Imagine if Canucks drafted Mark Ricchi, instead! They probably would have won the cup or at least competed for one in multiple seasons more...
Selanne and Bure on the same team would have been nuts
I agree with the hockey guy... Though it would have been a more exciting brand of hockey... I don't think they would have gotten to the finals if they had Selanne in place of Linden who carried them! 2-way centers is what you can build a winning team around- two of them will push you over the top... Goal scoring wingers are all nice and exciting... But they don't tend to bring cups for your team unless they come with a top center- or two!
Brindamour didn’t “ bounce around the league,” he was traded by St. Louis to Philly with Dan Quinn for Ron Sutter and Murray Baron. Then traded on 99-00 to Carolina for Keith Primeau.
A little side note that I thought that was interesting is that, Brind'Amour, Recchi and Hedican all played together on the 2006 Stanley Cup Hurricanes team.
Good job on that podcast yesterday.
Your content is great. I first clicked on the video, then thought 'what difference would it make?'
Then, I listened.
You should definitely do a video honoring The Missing Link. Must be the most entertaining lunatic to ever put on skates
I would pick em EXACTLY like Shannon because people always argue with him
I do like the spearmint chewing gum Stars jersey.
Link Gates even sounds tough lol.
I was there. You just entered the Forum and sat upstairs, no big deal. The sound was horrible, only geared for the floor, we couldn't understand anything higher up.
Very surprised Daniel Doré isn't on here.
What a draft!
A line of Mogilny-Gretzky-Robitaille would have been absolutely absurd! This is the first redrafting video of yours that I've watched. It's really fun to imagine all those players on different teams. Thanks very much for all the work you put into these.
Martin Gelinas was also part of the Oilers Kid line that won the 1990 Stanley Cup. Definitely had some big moments in the cup run!
Mike Modano is the first great American player and still- in my opinion- the standard that all great American players must reach to live up to... He's accomplished everything in his hockey career that you could as a great player to do and won a cup with his team that drafted him...
"I believe it's Curtis Le chiz in." - 6-year-old me, probably
Keith Carney is my cousin! Awesome guy and had a long career as a solid stay at home defensemen
I would pick Modano over Selanne, too. Selanne was flashier but Modano was a heart and soul player with immense talent.
Do a video ranking enforcers
The only problem with la drafting mogilny is Gretzky would not have played with him. That year Gelenas was part of the Gretzky trade. Gelanas was drafted by la was used as part of the trade. I would assume with mogilny he would have been part of the Gretzky trade
1. Selanne
2. Modano
3. Blake
4. Recchi
5. Roenick
6. Brind Amour
7. Amonte
8. Mogilny
I dont get how Modano and Selanne are that close? imo Selanne had better peaks and had also longer longevity.
Have you done a Trevor Linden career bio yet? I don't remember seeing one.
Awesome top 7
The thumbnail has a Northstars jursey with a Wild shoulder patch and its driving me nuts! I cant find anything online about it
Alumni game gear.
@@TheHockeyGuythank you! It's impressive you responded to me on a year old video I appreciate it.
Mogilny #7, that's a top-heavy draft!
Love these. Takes me back to being a kid. Ladner has a brand new covered hockey boxes. Maybe a winter meet up spot.
Killin me bro by not mentioning the original draft pick
Literal torture as a Leafs fan. Winning on the last day of the season cost them Modano, then they passed on Gelinas and Roenick who ended their 2002 and 2004 seasons respectively.
Star-studded - I see what you did there!
Would Mogilny have actually played for the Kings though? Because Gelinas who was picked by the Kings there was sent to Edmonton in the Gretzky trade before he ever played a game in the NHL. I think in this scenario, Mogilny ends up an Oiler.
The dropoff from Amonte to Gélinas is immense.
And, like everyone else, I’m not passing on Selänne. I grew up a Kariya fan, but there’s just no way I can look beyond Selänne. No disrespect meant to Modano, easy #2.
Would Patrice Bergeron be the Number one draft pick in his draft class? On a re-draft?
The only problem with Mogilny going early to another team... would they have helped him defect when he did? Or would they have simply waited the 4-5 years before the russians came over anyway? some of his best years were in that window.. oh, he played well with Patty.. but with Wayne? He might have even broke some of Waynes greatest records..
Like 182..good band
People think Shannon’s Kang the Conquer
Modano picked over Selanne because if you draft Modano he’ll still be on your team 10 years down the road
Given the era, 2 heavy weights Domi and Kocur would have to be higher. Those were such important roles during their careers. Just my opinion. Love the top 10. Do 89 next, please
If GMs knew what Domi brought to a team there is no way he doesn't get taken in the 1st round
Claude Lapointe career video, please
Mogilny should be a HOF
Of course they have a Cup w Selanne, who could stop that? PP would be 90%
I figure Roenick would've Lindrossed his way out of Quebec too.
I would have picked up Tie Domi 12 th
Northstars logo 👍
Imagine if Selanne had been a North Star instead of a Jet
no
Loving these re-draft vids. Keep them coming! With Rob Blake AND Roenick to the Nordiques, does that mean Philly never gets it's Legion of Doom? Do we still get a Colorado Avs team from Quebec City or does a non Modano Minnesota team move there instead...with small market Hartford becoming the Dallas Whalers? And would Mogilny have had a HoF career playing beside Gretz and being protected by McSorly? My only complaint is that you aren't a Marvel villain and we can't see the timelines where these drafts play out...
11:40- how I pronounced it as a kid.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear anything said. I was too busy watching the cat.
Correction.. Mogilny would have been traded to the Oilers from the Kings in the Gretzky trade there Shannon. So they wouldn't have played together with the Kings
I'll always remember Keith Carney from the way John Buccigross would announce his highlights on NHL2Night, a la Austin Powers:
"Carney...small hands, smells of cabbage..."
Top ten players combined goals in this draft = 4600 goals.
You need to say who was actually drafted in that spot.
Do 1987 just so I can see Joe Sakic taken first overall. How my hockey fandom would have changed if he wasn't a Nordique/Avalanche.
As a huge Linden fan, I can’t ever be disappointed about having him on the team. However, Selanne and Bure together would have been insane.
They never would have lasted more than 2 seasons together.
Quite a drop off for name recognition after Juneau. Still impressive top 12. Not a single swede in the first round though.
Khristich - one of the first Ukrainians to step on NHL ice
Hedican - won the Cup with Hurricanes after losing with Canucks
Taylor - won the Cup with Lightning, captained the team since Andreychuk's retirement until his own retirement
@@xlr0gd205 Well, Ukrainian-born that is.
Not really. The top 17 for sure are all solid and would have been well known names for hockey fans in the 90's
There is not a GM on the planet at any time that would take (167 career point)Tim Taylor over Steve Heinze, Keith Jones, Darrin Shannon and Tie Domi in redrafting rules.
The Trevor Linden draft, one draft away from the steal of the 1989 draft, Pavel Bure.
Kariya!
Probably thinking of Dimitri Kalinin when talking about Buffalo
I laugh every time how Shannon has to clarify, I'm not changing the past I'm not placing player "A" in this spot because its my team. I genuinely believe, this is the order the draft would go in my opinion. To me its funny he has to do it. I really don't see what he has to gain by putting players on teams he would want. We can all fantasize about "what if" certain players had played on our teams, but unless it happens in the future (aka McDavid and Bedard both going to Detroit - yeah let me fantasize!) then it doesn't matter.
It’s just for fun bro
@@thomasgolden9040 What is? Commenting that he put a player on a team he likes only cause he likes them?
Or are you saying hes saying that joking and no one comments that?
👍 Superb stuff thx.
That top 7 is amazing. Its very difficult to rank those guys. All absolute legends. I think i would go...
1. Selanne
2. Roenick
3. Modano
4. Blake
5. Mogilny
6. Recchi
7. Brind'Amour
I agree with yours way more than Shannon's. Might flip Blake over Modano.
I agree with your list. It just proves that Trevor Linden was on the over-rated side.
I like THG's listing of Martin Gelinas in the top 10. His overtime goal that eliminated the Canucks in game 7 of the 2004 opening round, and in the wake of the Todd Bertuzzi incident, still looks beautiful on Canucks fans.
roenick at 4
Good job on sekeres and price now we just got to get you on Donnie n dwalli Co hosting. Good stuff Shannon your hard work is paying off.
No way Mogilny is a King with Gretzky! Gelinas was traded to Edmonton. So it stands to reason that Edmonton would have wanted mogilny in the traded!
Go Flahery
When you do the re-draft for 1989, you should compare it to this year, especially the Red Wings two drafts, I can't imagine a bigger flip in drafting success than those two classes.
Huh, weird. The Flyers picked a guy who only played 75 games in the NHL. Hmm. This has been a thing for a while. Thanks for the video. Loved Brind'Amour in Philly. Saw Fiset and Kamensky in Colorado. Watched Roenick lose to said Avalanche.
Do 1989 next!!!!!!!!!! I'm begging lol.
Eew. Fiset to the Red Wings. Terrible draft for goalies. He was Bob Essensa with a lower ceiling.
Nice!
The Gaetz of Hell. Man, that guy was such a folk legend and one scary and tough dude for the first year San Jose Sharks. I'm so disappointed that Wade Flaherty wasn't selected in the top 5 picks for this redraft 😆😜.
Yes, but Quebec already had Sakic..... Odd that they too passed on him the first time for Fogarty. In '87 I'd still take Sakic first, as I would've have in '87....
I think 2004 would be an interesting redraft
Scott Pearson was one of my hockey coaches when I was a teenager.
If you do 83 draft I wonder if Yzerman still goes at 4
My guess is no… 😂
I'm ready to watch the '83 re-draft...do you personally have Stevie Y as a Northstar?
It's gotta be Selanne over Modano for me personally
Both superstars
@@TylerMorganShow Modano had less goals less points and never had a 100 point season. Selanne had three and still holds an NHL Rookie record.
@@christopherking3770 i live in Winnipeg
Terrible choice for Jersey
North Stars period
You're one year off. Let's see the '89 redraft... you know the one that made the Wings so good.
Having Selanne would’ve been amazing, but I’m going to say the Canucks do not go on that ‘94 run. Linden really was the heart and soul of that team.
Edit: THG is right about his offence. People forget he had multiple 30-goal seasons.
No denying Liden's passion....but Bure and Selanne? That's basically 100 goals a year right there. Maybe 120 in a good year. And people forget, Teemu and Pavel were both pretty involved players. Both of them showed a lot of heart.
Wasn't Linden that KO'd Shane Churla, who was no wallflower.
Pretty scary stuff.
@@paulmackay7265 fair points!
Do the 1987 draft...Sakic went a little too low.
Do 2009
I'd rather put Zdeno Ciger to the first round than Tim Taylor.
I think you couldn‘t go wrong with the first 8 players on that list. I would have swapped Modano and Selanne, Roenick and Rod and Mogilny and Linden. But actually you would have been happy with any of those first 8 playera, imho.
Teemu #1
I would take Selanne over Modano. I think Selanne was a better skater and a better pure goal scorer who was just as if not more valuable to the teams he played for. He finished with more goals and points in less games than Modano did, even though they're pretty comparable.
That being said, they are definitely one and two from their draft year, and it's a very reasonable debate who had the better career.
You mentioned a "toughest draft" - how about that for a video idea? 😀
Brind'amour > Recchi
Lindros was a. INJURY BUG. Never liked
"I'm not a Marvel Super Villain" Modano #1 begs to differ sir. Arguably it could be said he's not even top 5. I would say he's not top 3. 1. Selanne 2. Recchi 3. Mogilny
@LETZ GO 2023 NHL draft
I'd say the only major upside Modano has over Recchi is that he's a Center. Mogilny, was outproducing even Teemu in terms of both Goals, and Points per Game, not by much but he was.
As a Kings fan i do not approve, not having Blake means a ton to this organization. Even to this day.